Re: [LegacyUG] HELP please - was - RE: Error 9: Subscript out of range, HELP please

[Cathy Pinner]

Valerie,
If you want to turn on the option for Legacy to make a list of your 
files, you need to go to Options > Customise 12.5. Click the button and 
then go to the Messages tab at the bottom and change the option there.


Cathy


vbgar...@gmail.com <mailto:vbgar...@gmail.com>
Tuesday, 18 May 2021 11:23
Which is which please ?

When I go into Legacy and go to File/Open I get - 
Valerie/MyDocuments/LegacyFT/Data


Where is the other one please and where do I find it ?

Cheers from Valerie

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Behalf Of Jenny M Benson

Sent: Sunday, 16 May 2021 7:51 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] HELP please - was - RE: Error 9: Subscript out 
of range, HELP please


When you want to Open or Import a file, which option are you using - 
"Select the file using the Windows dialog box" or "Have Legacy create 
a list of files to choose from"?


Personally, I prefer to use the first one, but I think my files are 
very well-organized and I usually know exactly where I want to look 
for a particular file. I think it might be helpful to you to put all 
your Gedcoms into one folder, then look at each one and decide what 
you want to do with it.


I would also look at the other files - text documents, Word documents, 
Excel spreadsheets and so on and make a list of them with a 
description of what each one contains, then perhaps gather them into 
one or two folders and make a note of where you saved them.


Once you know what's what and where it is you can have Legacy open 
each Gedcom in turn (remember to use File>Import for Gedcoms) and 
create a new file. When you are happy with the contents of the files 
you can start to merge them. If I were you I would try and concentrate 
on one particular branch of your family to start with and get that 
organized before you move on.


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Jenny M Benson <mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk>
Sunday, 16 May 2021 17:50


When you want to Open or Import a file, which option are you using - 
"Select the file using the Windows dialog box" or "Have Legacy create 
a list of files to choose from"?


Personally, I prefer to use the first one, but I think my files are 
very well-organized and I usually know exactly where I want to look 
for a particular file.  I think it might be helpful to you to put all 
your Gedcoms into one folder, then look at each one and decide what 
you want to do with it.


I would also look at the other files - text documents, Word documents, 
Excel spreadsheets and so on and make a list of them with a 
description of what each one contains, then perhaps gather them into 
one or two folders and make a note of where you saved them.


Once you know what's what and where it is you can have Legacy open 
each Gedcom in turn (remember to use File>Import for Gedcoms) and 
create a new file.  When you are happy with the contents of the files 
you can start to merge them.  If I were you I would try and 
concentrate on one particular branch of your family to start with and 
get that organized before you move on.


vbgar...@gmail.com <mailto:vbgar...@gmail.com>
Sunday, 16 May 2021 11:52

Thanks for this Carolyn but I am in a huge MESS.

Some of you have tried to help me before but I am here now to FIX IT 
ALL please ?


I appear to have .ged’s everywhere. When I do a windows key .ged I get 
9 full pages of various record types – please excuse me if I am not 
using the correct terminology.


On these 9 pages I have the following:

GED file

Text documents

Microsoft word documents

Compressed (zipped) Folders

Microsoft Excel Worksheets

And some other odd “ things “

Some of these .ged’s do not appear in the list when you try and File – 
Open but with File – import there are some there as well as some folders.


HELP please

Cheers from Valerie

*From:*LegacyUserGroup  *On 
Behalf Of *carogene

*Sent:* Saturday, 15 May 2021 3:17 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group 
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Error 9: Subscript out of range, HELP please

Hi Valerie,

With the GEDCOM, download it to your home screen or a folder, then 
IMPORT it as a new file in Legacy.


That way you can check it out before and if you  want to merge it with 
another Legacy file.


Sorry I can't help you with DNA Painter, or the HR Pavilion, but Mrs 
Google can answer most questions, she will often point you to a You 
Tube video which IO find very helpful.


Good luck!

Carolyn

On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 4:10 PM <mailto:vbgar...@gmail.com>> wrote:







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Re: [LegacyUG] HELP please - was - RE: Error 9: Subscript out of range, HELP please

[vbgarton]

Which is which please ?

When I go into Legacy and go to File/Open I get  - 
Valerie/MyDocuments/LegacyFT/Data

Where is the other one please and where do I find it ?

Cheers from Valerie

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To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] HELP please - was - RE: Error 9: Subscript out of 
range, HELP please

On 16/05/2021 04:52, vbgar...@gmail.com wrote:
> Some of these .ged’s do not appear in the list when you try and File – 
> Open but with File – import there are some there as well as some folders.

When you want to Open or Import a file, which option are you using - "Select 
the file using the Windows dialog box" or "Have Legacy create a list of files 
to choose from"?

Personally, I prefer to use the first one, but I think my files are very 
well-organized and I usually know exactly where I want to look for a particular 
file.  I think it might be helpful to you to put all your Gedcoms into one 
folder, then look at each one and decide what you want to do with it.

I would also look at the other files - text documents, Word documents, Excel 
spreadsheets and so on and make a list of them with a description of what each 
one contains, then perhaps gather them into one or two folders and make a note 
of where you saved them.

Once you know what's what and where it is you can have Legacy open each Gedcom 
in turn (remember to use File>Import for Gedcoms) and create a new file.  When 
you are happy with the contents of the files you can start to merge them.  If I 
were you I would try and concentrate on one particular branch of your family to 
start with and get that organized before you move on.

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Re: [LegacyUG] HELP please - was - RE: Error 9: Subscript out of range, HELP please

[vbgarton]

Thank you so much for this Jenny. I have no idea why everything is where it is 
nor how it all got there.

Cheers from Valerie

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From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Sunday, 16 May 2021 7:51 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] HELP please - was - RE: Error 9: Subscript out of 
range, HELP please

On 16/05/2021 04:52, vbgar...@gmail.com wrote:
> Some of these .ged’s do not appear in the list when you try and File – 
> Open but with File – import there are some there as well as some folders.

When you want to Open or Import a file, which option are you using - "Select 
the file using the Windows dialog box" or "Have Legacy create a list of files 
to choose from"?

Personally, I prefer to use the first one, but I think my files are very 
well-organized and I usually know exactly where I want to look for a particular 
file.  I think it might be helpful to you to put all your Gedcoms into one 
folder, then look at each one and decide what you want to do with it.

I would also look at the other files - text documents, Word documents, Excel 
spreadsheets and so on and make a list of them with a description of what each 
one contains, then perhaps gather them into one or two folders and make a note 
of where you saved them.

Once you know what's what and where it is you can have Legacy open each Gedcom 
in turn (remember to use File>Import for Gedcoms) and create a new file.  When 
you are happy with the contents of the files you can start to merge them.  If I 
were you I would try and concentrate on one particular branch of your family to 
start with and get that organized before you move on.

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Re: [LegacyUG] HELP please - was - RE: Error 9: Subscript out of range, HELP please

[Jenny M Benson]

On 16/05/2021 04:52, vbgar...@gmail.com wrote:
Some of these .ged’s do not appear in the list when you try and File – 
Open but with File – import there are some there as well as some folders.


When you want to Open or Import a file, which option are you using - 
"Select the file using the Windows dialog box" or "Have Legacy create a 
list of files to choose from"?


Personally, I prefer to use the first one, but I think my files are very 
well-organized and I usually know exactly where I want to look for a 
particular file.  I think it might be helpful to you to put all your 
Gedcoms into one folder, then look at each one and decide what you want 
to do with it.


I would also look at the other files - text documents, Word documents, 
Excel spreadsheets and so on and make a list of them with a description 
of what each one contains, then perhaps gather them into one or two 
folders and make a note of where you saved them.


Once you know what's what and where it is you can have Legacy open each 
Gedcom in turn (remember to use File>Import for Gedcoms) and create a 
new file.  When you are happy with the contents of the files you can 
start to merge them.  If I were you I would try and concentrate on one 
particular branch of your family to start with and get that organized 
before you move on.


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[LegacyUG] HELP please - was - RE: Error 9: Subscript out of range, HELP please

[vbgarton]

Thanks for this Carolyn but I am in a huge MESS.

Some of you have tried to help me before but I am here now to FIX IT ALL please 
?

 

I appear to have .ged’s everywhere. When I do a windows key .ged I get 9 full 
pages of various record types – please excuse me if I am not using the correct 
terminology.

 

On these 9 pages I have the following:

GED file

Text documents

Microsoft word documents

Compressed (zipped) Folders

Microsoft Excel Worksheets

And some other odd “ things “

 

Some of these .ged’s do not appear in the list when you try and File – Open but 
with File – import there are some there as well as some folders.

 

HELP please

 

Cheers from Valerie

 

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
carogene
Sent: Saturday, 15 May 2021 3:17 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 9: Subscript out of range, HELP please

 

Hi Valerie,

 

With the GEDCOM, download it to your home screen or a folder, then IMPORT it as 
a new file in Legacy.

That way you can check it out before and if you  want to merge it with another 
Legacy file.

Sorry I can't help you with DNA Painter, or the HR Pavilion, but Mrs Google can 
answer most questions, she will often point you to a You Tube video which IO 
find very helpful.

 

Good luck!

Carolyn

 

On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 4:10 PM mailto:vbgar...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:

I am trying to download a gedcom file from Ancestry and add it to a new Legacy 
File and also upload to DNA Painter.  When I try this from ancestry and add to 
Legacy I am told that “ 0 TRLR “ at the end 

 

If one want’s to ring me is also great   0409298781

 

I am also trying to setup an HP Ravilion lap top and cannot get past the finger 
print sensor

 

Any one around who can help me please ?

 

Valerie in sunny Sydney

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Re: [LegacyUG] Help please

[Ian Macaulay]

Thank you for the reply.  I think I understand but it's still a bit foggy.

I have cleared about a half dozen and  check /repair is now clear.
I have no idea what I did to mess them up.

Ian


On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 9:08 PM Cathy Pinner  wrote:

> Ian,
> The new update of Legacy has added a new check for Duplicate Marriages.
> Some of them will prove to be legitimate and some will not.
> eg a couple may have married, divorced and then remarried.
> Or you may have someone linked to RIN 0 more than once as you have
> baptisms records that they had two children but don't know whether the
> other parent was the same or not. Old baptism registers often just give
> the father and you can't assume the same spouse given how many women
> died in childbirth and their husbands remarried. And when they just give
> the mother for several children - was the father the same person? I have
> at least 5 valid duplicates in my file.
> If you discover you have valid Duplicate Marriages, then mostly in the
> future run Check/Repair with the checkbox re Duplicate Marriages
> unchecked. Especially if you find you had duplicates that weren't valid,
> periodically run it with that Checkbox checked.
>
> In your case you have two Unknown-Unknown relationships. You will likely
> find that they have no other information and you should simply unlink
> the child they are linked to and get rid of them.
> You find them by going to View > Marriage List and finding the Marriages
> with MRINs 17923 and 10978
> Select them one at a time and see who they are connected to. If they're
> connected to no-one, just unlink.
> If they actually have marriage information then you'll need to re-find
> one of the names. They may have been lost in an import or a merge.
>
> Cathy
>
> > Ian Macaulay 
> > Monday, 28 September 2020 8:33 AM
> > I have this message after a check/repair
> >
> > There is a Duplicate Marriage of Husband Rin=0, Wife Rin=0.  See
> > Marriage RINs 17923 and 10978.  This was not removed because there are
> > differences in the marriage date or location.
> >
> > I don't know what it means.
> >
> > Ian
> >
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Re: [LegacyUG] Help please

[Cathy Pinner]

Ian,
The new update of Legacy has added a new check for Duplicate Marriages. 
Some of them will prove to be legitimate and some will not.

eg a couple may have married, divorced and then remarried.
Or you may have someone linked to RIN 0 more than once as you have 
baptisms records that they had two children but don't know whether the 
other parent was the same or not. Old baptism registers often just give 
the father and you can't assume the same spouse given how many women 
died in childbirth and their husbands remarried. And when they just give 
the mother for several children - was the father the same person? I have 
at least 5 valid duplicates in my file.
If you discover you have valid Duplicate Marriages, then mostly in the 
future run Check/Repair with the checkbox re Duplicate Marriages 
unchecked. Especially if you find you had duplicates that weren't valid, 
periodically run it with that Checkbox checked.


In your case you have two Unknown-Unknown relationships. You will likely 
find that they have no other information and you should simply unlink 
the child they are linked to and get rid of them.
You find them by going to View > Marriage List and finding the Marriages 
with MRINs 17923 and 10978
Select them one at a time and see who they are connected to. If they're 
connected to no-one, just unlink.
If they actually have marriage information then you'll need to re-find 
one of the names. They may have been lost in an import or a merge.


Cathy


Ian Macaulay 
Monday, 28 September 2020 8:33 AM
I have this message after a check/repair

There is a Duplicate Marriage of Husband Rin=0, Wife Rin=0.  See 
Marriage RINs 17923 and 10978.  This was not removed because there are 
differences in the marriage date or location.


I don't know what it means.

Ian

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[LegacyUG] Help please

[Ian Macaulay]

I have this message after a check/repair

There is a Duplicate Marriage of Husband Rin=0, Wife Rin=0.  See Marriage
RINs 17923 and 10978.  This was not removed because there are differences
in the marriage date or location.

I don't know what it means.

Ian

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Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please!

[Joyce Herzog]

Thank you everyone! I agree that is what it is. I just couldn't figure it
out without all of you helping me.!

Thanks again!

Joyce

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Shirley J. Miller 
wrote:

> I agree, and if you look at the 1880 census for Florence Smith, her father
> as a Farmer...!!
> Shirley J. Miller
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:44 AM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please!
>
> Hello,
> I think that the entry is 'Farmer's Daughter.
>
> Take a look at the other entries for Farmer, the first letter sure looks
> like an 'F' as it is on other entries.
>
> Martha
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Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please!

[Shirley J. Miller]

I agree, and if you look at the 1880 census for Florence Smith, her father
as a Farmer...!!
Shirley J. Miller

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please!

Hello,
I think that the entry is 'Farmer's Daughter.

Take a look at the other entries for Farmer, the first letter sure looks
like an 'F' as it is on other entries.

Martha


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Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please!

[Shirley J. Miller]

If you look at the 1880 census for Florence Smith, her father was a 
Farmer...Although very poorly written, this could say "Farmers daughter"...

Shirley J. Miller

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Joyce Herzog
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 10:15 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] Help, please!

 

 

In Ancestry's Collection: "All Michigan, Marriage Records, 1867-1952" results 
for Drinkwater. The entry William L. Drinkwater & Florence Smith. 

entry # 230, for Florence's occupation. Can any one tell me the word before 
daughter? Perhaps it is a word for Orphan? Both her parents are listed 
as unknown.Any one have a solution OR suggestion? I'm at a loss to understand 
what it is.

Any help is deeply appreciated.

Joyce


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Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please!

[Eliz Hanebury]

I think you are right, I was looking at it again and as I glanced away
I realized that the initial letter looked more like an F 
Eliz
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> Hello,
> I think that the entry is 'Farmer's Daughter.
>
> Take a look at the other entries for Farmer, the first letter sure looks
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>
> Martha
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Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please!

[Martha Graham]

Hello,
I think that the entry is 'Farmer's Daughter.

Take a look at the other entries for Farmer, the first letter sure looks 
like an 'F' as it is on other entries.


Martha


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Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please!

[Eliz Hanebury]

Could it be Canners??
Eliz
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On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Joyce Herzog  wrote:
>
> In Ancestry's Collection: "All Michigan, Marriage Records, 1867-1952"
> results for Drinkwater. The entry William L. Drinkwater & Florence Smith.
> entry # 230, for Florence's occupation. Can any one tell me the word before
> daughter? Perhaps it is a word for Orphan? Both her parents are listed
> as unknown.Any one have a solution OR suggestion? I'm at a loss to
> understand what it is.
>
> Any help is deeply appreciated.
>
> Joyce
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> http://www.one-name.org/profiles/drinkwater.html
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Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please!

[Norris Taylor]

Do you have the url?



On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 12:14 PM, Joyce Herzog 
wrote:

>
> In Ancestry's Collection: "All Michigan, Marriage Records, 1867-1952"
> results for Drinkwater. The entry William L. Drinkwater & Florence Smith.
> entry # 230, for Florence's *occupation*. Can any one tell me the word
> before daughter? Perhaps it is a word for Orphan? Both her parents are
> listed
> as unknown.Any one have a solution OR suggestion? I'm at a loss to
> understand what it is.
>
> Any help is deeply appreciated.
>
> Joyce
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[LegacyUG] Help, please!

[Joyce Herzog]

In Ancestry's Collection: "All Michigan, Marriage Records, 1867-1952"
results for Drinkwater. The entry William L. Drinkwater & Florence Smith.
entry # 230, for Florence's *occupation*. Can any one tell me the word
before daughter? Perhaps it is a word for Orphan? Both her parents are
listed
as unknown.Any one have a solution OR suggestion? I'm at a loss to
understand what it is.

Any help is deeply appreciated.

Joyce

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Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please

[Hannigan Family Research]

I would go one step further - save the one you think you have been
working on to a new name (or just check the 'modified' date in the file)
and then check the other file for merging any data that is different
between the two.  That way, if you have been updating two different
files, you have the updates from both files in one file and don't loose
valuable data.

Lesson learned the hard way.

John

On Monday 1 25 2016 12:58 PM, Ed Ladendorf wrote:
> If you're not sure which file you are opening, you could also open the
> file you think is best, then save as xxx(filename) followed by
> today's date. Then you can safely delete the other one. Just a thought.
>
>
> On Monday, January 25, 2016 10:29 AM, Barbara Ford
>  wrote:
>
>
> Thanks. Sorry my messages were so confusing.
>
>
> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On Jan 25, 2016, at 10:03 AM, Brian/Support
> mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I guess that means I do not have to respond to your original message. I
> > am so glad you were able to sort out your problem.
> >
> > Brian
> > Customer Support
> > Millennia Corporation
> > br...@legacyfamilytree.com 
> > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com 
> >
> >> On 25/01/2016 10:51, Barbara Ford wrote:
> >> Wow, that makes sense, also, Brian. Let me just say a huge thanks
> to all
> >> who helped me on this. Although I am not certain which of the
> possible ways
> >> the "stray" file got on my desktop, I have it all resolved now.
> Thankfully,
> >> attempting to print a chart from Charting Companion yesterday made
> me aware
> >> that there was even "such a thing" as more than one file. I am
> 99.9% (and
> >> that's good enough for me) that the only time I opened that stray
> file was
> >> when I input my FIL death info. Therefore, I went into Legacy and
> told it
> >> to open the file from C:\Legacy\Data, and everything was there
> EXCEPT my
> >> FIL death info. I made sure that C:\Legacy\Data is set as the default
> >> location for my family file. With that file open, I re-input the
> FIL info.
> >> I chose to backup to .zip, as I always do when exiting. I then
> deleted the
> >> .zip files from the previous three days, and I deleted that evil stray
> >> file, con mucho gusto. I am so glad I figured out what was
> happening before
> >> I had two files that needed to be merged. To answer my own question
> at the
> >> beginning of these many posts, what in the world made me think I
> could use
> >> a robust software program like Legacy? It's only because there are
> >> brilliant people out there (in this group) who are willing to hold
> the hand
> >> of someone like myself. Thank you, all.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Brian/Support
> mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Another possibility Jenny does not mention for what is on your
> desktop.
> >>> When windows added the ability to access .zip condensed files
> Microsoft
> >>> decided to treat all .zip files as folders. In one of the many posts
> >>> about this problem I think Barbara mentioned that the item on her
> >>> desktop was a folder with her family file name. That "folder"
> could be a
> >>> backup familyfile.zip file which would be one of her backups but would
> >>> not necessarily be the most recent backup.
> >>>
> >>> If she opened the family file she found inside the folder of the same
> >>> name then Windows did two things:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Windows unzipped the condensed file from the .zip "folder" to
> make it
> >>> a full .fdb file.
> >>> 2. This extracted family file would be stored in a Windows temp folder
> >>> and that is where Legacy would be told the file was located.
> >>>
> >>> Both of these steps would be done in the background with no warning to
> >>> the user. All the edits Barbara did on that file in the temporary
> >>> windows folder would only be recorded in that file. Windows is not
> smart
> >>> enough to update the content of that .zip folder on the desktop
> with the
> >>> revised copy of the Family file when Barbara finished the edits so now
> >>> the family file in the temp folder is the only file with her edits. If
> >>> Barbara did a new backup of her family file that would be stored in
> >>> familyfile.zip with the date of her Legacy session but unless she also
> >>> stored that on her desktop it is in an unknown folder, possibly
> even in
> >>> the temp folder where the unzipped file she opened is located.
> >>>
> >>> Every time Barbara opened the family file inside that backup "folder"
> >>> She would see the original data without the edits she had made in
> >>> earlier sessions.
> >>>
> >>> This is one of the common reasons why people report that Legacy has
> >>> "lost" the changes they made.
> >>>
> >>> I do have Barbara's original email and will be responding to her
> >>> directly once I have had time to analyse her somewhat confusing
> message.
> >>>
> >>> Brian
> >>> Customer Support
> >>> Millennia Corporation
> 

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please

[Barbara Ford]

Thanks. Sorry my messages were so confusing.


Sent from iPhone

> On Jan 25, 2016, at 10:03 AM, Brian/Support  
> wrote:
>
> I guess that means I do not have to respond to your original message. I
> am so glad you were able to sort out your problem.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
>> On 25/01/2016 10:51, Barbara Ford wrote:
>> Wow, that makes sense, also, Brian. Let me just say a huge thanks to all
>> who helped me on this. Although I am not certain which of the possible ways
>> the "stray" file got on my desktop, I have it all resolved now. Thankfully,
>> attempting to print a chart from Charting Companion yesterday made me aware
>> that there was even "such a thing" as more than one file. I am 99.9% (and
>> that's good enough for me) that the only time I opened that stray file was
>> when I input my FIL death info. Therefore, I went into Legacy and told it
>> to open the file from C:\Legacy\Data, and everything was there EXCEPT my
>> FIL death info. I made sure that C:\Legacy\Data is set as the default
>> location for my family file. With that file open, I re-input the FIL info.
>> I chose to backup to .zip, as I always do when exiting. I then deleted the
>> .zip files from the previous three days, and I deleted that evil stray
>> file, con mucho gusto. I am so glad I figured out what was happening before
>> I had two files that needed to be merged. To answer my own question at the
>> beginning of these many posts, what in the world made me think I could use
>> a robust software program like Legacy? It's only because there are
>> brilliant people out there (in this group) who are willing to hold the hand
>> of someone like myself. Thank you, all.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Brian/Support 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Another possibility Jenny does not mention for what is on your desktop.
>>> When windows added the ability to access .zip condensed files Microsoft
>>> decided to treat all .zip files as folders. In one of the many posts
>>> about this problem I think Barbara mentioned that the item on her
>>> desktop was a folder with her family file name. That "folder" could be a
>>> backup familyfile.zip file which would be one of her backups but would
>>> not necessarily be the most recent backup.
>>>
>>> If she opened the family file she found inside the folder of the same
>>> name then Windows did two things:
>>>
>>> 1. Windows unzipped the condensed file from the .zip "folder" to make it
>>> a full .fdb file.
>>> 2. This extracted family file would be stored in a Windows temp folder
>>> and that is where Legacy would be told the file was located.
>>>
>>> Both of these steps would be done in the background with no warning to
>>> the user. All the edits Barbara did on that file in the temporary
>>> windows folder would only be recorded in that file. Windows is not smart
>>> enough to update the content of that .zip folder on the desktop with the
>>> revised copy of the Family file when Barbara finished the edits so now
>>> the family file in the temp folder is the only file with her edits. If
>>> Barbara did a new backup of her family file that would be stored in
>>> familyfile.zip with the date of her Legacy session but unless she also
>>> stored that on her desktop it is in an unknown folder, possibly even in
>>> the temp folder where the unzipped file she opened is located.
>>>
>>> Every time Barbara opened the family file inside that backup "folder"
>>> She would see the original data without the edits she had made in
>>> earlier sessions.
>>>
>>> This is one of the common reasons why people report that Legacy has
>>> "lost" the changes they made.
>>>
>>> I do have Barbara's original email and will be responding to her
>>> directly once I have had time to analyse her somewhat confusing message.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>> Customer Support
>>> Millennia Corporation
>>> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
>>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>>>
 On 25/01/2016 09:57, Jenny M Benson wrote:
> On 25/01/2016 14:07, Barbara Ford wrote:
> So, asking a simplistic basic question here, as I try to figure out
> how this happened, and before I take my nervous self to the computer
> this morning to try to "fix" this: Does it appear that I in effect
> have two installations of Legacy on my computer (one that I access
> through the Legacy icon, the one I THOUGHT I always used), and the
> other that somehow showed up as a link on my desktop that I must have
> used to access the program at least once, like three days ago when I
> input my FIL information). Because if it's just two ways to access
> the same program, why wouldn't it save all the data, no matter which
> location I accessed the program from?


 You probably don't have two installations of Legacy, just two copies of
 your Family File.  If you double-click on a Family File in Windows
 Explorer or on the Desktop Legacy will o

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please

[Barbara Ford]

Wow, that makes sense, also, Brian. Let me just say a huge thanks to all
who helped me on this. Although I am not certain which of the possible ways
the "stray" file got on my desktop, I have it all resolved now. Thankfully,
attempting to print a chart from Charting Companion yesterday made me aware
that there was even "such a thing" as more than one file. I am 99.9% (and
that's good enough for me) that the only time I opened that stray file was
when I input my FIL death info. Therefore, I went into Legacy and told it
to open the file from C:\Legacy\Data, and everything was there EXCEPT my
FIL death info. I made sure that C:\Legacy\Data is set as the default
location for my family file. With that file open, I re-input the FIL info.
I chose to backup to .zip, as I always do when exiting. I then deleted the
.zip files from the previous three days, and I deleted that evil stray
file, con mucho gusto. I am so glad I figured out what was happening before
I had two files that needed to be merged. To answer my own question at the
beginning of these many posts, what in the world made me think I could use
a robust software program like Legacy? It's only because there are
brilliant people out there (in this group) who are willing to hold the hand
of someone like myself. Thank you, all.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Brian/Support 
wrote:

> Another possibility Jenny does not mention for what is on your desktop.
> When windows added the ability to access .zip condensed files Microsoft
> decided to treat all .zip files as folders. In one of the many posts
> about this problem I think Barbara mentioned that the item on her
> desktop was a folder with her family file name. That "folder" could be a
> backup familyfile.zip file which would be one of her backups but would
> not necessarily be the most recent backup.
>
> If she opened the family file she found inside the folder of the same
> name then Windows did two things:
>
> 1. Windows unzipped the condensed file from the .zip "folder" to make it
> a full .fdb file.
> 2. This extracted family file would be stored in a Windows temp folder
> and that is where Legacy would be told the file was located.
>
> Both of these steps would be done in the background with no warning to
> the user. All the edits Barbara did on that file in the temporary
> windows folder would only be recorded in that file. Windows is not smart
> enough to update the content of that .zip folder on the desktop with the
> revised copy of the Family file when Barbara finished the edits so now
> the family file in the temp folder is the only file with her edits. If
> Barbara did a new backup of her family file that would be stored in
> familyfile.zip with the date of her Legacy session but unless she also
> stored that on her desktop it is in an unknown folder, possibly even in
> the temp folder where the unzipped file she opened is located.
>
> Every time Barbara opened the family file inside that backup "folder"
> She would see the original data without the edits she had made in
> earlier sessions.
>
> This is one of the common reasons why people report that Legacy has
> "lost" the changes they made.
>
> I do have Barbara's original email and will be responding to her
> directly once I have had time to analyse her somewhat confusing message.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
> On 25/01/2016 09:57, Jenny M Benson wrote:
> > On 25/01/2016 14:07, Barbara Ford wrote:
> >> So, asking a simplistic basic question here, as I try to figure out
> >> how this happened, and before I take my nervous self to the computer
> >> this morning to try to "fix" this: Does it appear that I in effect
> >> have two installations of Legacy on my computer (one that I access
> >> through the Legacy icon, the one I THOUGHT I always used), and the
> >> other that somehow showed up as a link on my desktop that I must have
> >> used to access the program at least once, like three days ago when I
> >> input my FIL information). Because if it's just two ways to access
> >> the same program, why wouldn't it save all the data, no matter which
> >> location I accessed the program from?
> >
> >
> > You probably don't have two installations of Legacy, just two copies of
> > your Family File.  If you double-click on a Family File in Windows
> > Explorer or on the Desktop Legacy will open and show that file.  You
> > could have several copies of the same Family File stored in different
> > places and double-clicking any of them would open the program with that
> > particular copy of the file showing.  When you are working on the file,
> > the data you enter will be automatically saved to that same file,
> > wherever it is saved.
> >
> > You have used several different terms for what is stored on your
> > desktop.  What you are seeing could be a Family File, could be a folder
> > containing a Family File (I don't think it is), or could be a shortcut
> > to a

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please

[Barbara Ford]

Your explanation is helping me "get there" in my understanding. Here is the way 
I described the "two ways to access" in an earlier post here:

> It almost seems to me like there are two ways to access Legacy on my laptop: 
> one, the Legacy 6.0 icon, which when hovering over, says, Location: Legacy 
> (C:\Legacy) and then there is this link that is there that I have never 
> knowingly used, that is labeled familytreewip.fdb but when hovering over says 
> Type: Legacy Genealogy Software, 12.7 MB, and has today's date as the date 
> modified (because I opened Legacy with that icon awhile ago when I realized 
> it was there).

The one I refer to as having gotten there without my knowledge is not a 
shortcut. And I do believe it got there as you describe here.

Through the years, I always opened Legacy by clicking on my desktop shortcut 
(what I call the Legacy Icon) to the program. I have opened it many times 
through the time I wasn't doing active research, to reference something mainly, 
and within the last three years to add the death information about three of our 
parents. It always saved on the fly, as I exited, and I additionally chose to 
Backup as I exited, when given the choice, and that's when I back up to a zip 
file, stored in My Documents, but I have never used any of those zip files. It 
always opened up with everything having been saved, until I apparently 
inadvertently opened it from that "stray" copy of the file.

Once I get the right one open (which I expect will be correct except for my FIL 
death information, which I can easily re-input), do I understand correctly that 
I should double check to make sure the family file is being saved in 
C:\Legacy\Data and then is it safe to delete that one I refer to as "stray" 
(the one that says familytreewip.fdb)?

Barbara

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 25, 2016, at 8:57 AM, Jenny M Benson  wrote:
>
>> On 25/01/2016 14:07, Barbara Ford wrote:
>> So, asking a simplistic basic question here, as I try to figure out
>> how this happened, and before I take my nervous self to the computer
>> this morning to try to "fix" this: Does it appear that I in effect
>> have two installations of Legacy on my computer (one that I access
>> through the Legacy icon, the one I THOUGHT I always used), and the
>> other that somehow showed up as a link on my desktop that I must have
>> used to access the program at least once, like three days ago when I
>> input my FIL information). Because if it's just two ways to access
>> the same program, why wouldn't it save all the data, no matter which
>> location I accessed the program from?
>
>
> You probably don't have two installations of Legacy, just two copies of
> your Family File.  If you double-click on a Family File in Windows
> Explorer or on the Desktop Legacy will open and show that file.  You
> could have several copies of the same Family File stored in different
> places and double-clicking any of them would open the program with that
> particular copy of the file showing.  When you are working on the file,
> the data you enter will be automatically saved to that same file,
> wherever it is saved.
>
> You have used several different terms for what is stored on your
> desktop.  What you are seeing could be a Family File, could be a folder
> containing a Family File (I don't think it is), or could be a shortcut
> to a Family File which is stored somewhere else on your computer. If it
> was a shortcut the icon would include a little curved arrow.
>
> It is most likely a copy of your Family File.  A likely way it ended up
> on your desktop is that you maybe had some computer trouble at some time
> and someone (you or a helper) copied your family file to the desktop so
> it would be "safe" and not get removed while work was being done to fix
> your computer.
>
> Back a few years when you were regularly using Legacy, how did you open
> the program and your Family File?  I expect you either opened the Legacy
> program and your Family File was loaded automatically, or you located
> the Family File and double-clicked on it.  That's fine!  But if at some
> time recently you opened the program by double-clicking on a Family File
> stored on your desktop, Legacy might have "remembered" that and opened
> the same file next time.  That depends on how your options are set up,
> but many people have Legacy set up to automatically load the last Family
> File they worked on.
>
> I hope this clarifies the situation for you.
> --
> Jenny M Benson
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please

[Jenny M Benson]

On 25/01/2016 14:07, Barbara Ford wrote:
> So, asking a simplistic basic question here, as I try to figure out
> how this happened, and before I take my nervous self to the computer
> this morning to try to "fix" this: Does it appear that I in effect
> have two installations of Legacy on my computer (one that I access
> through the Legacy icon, the one I THOUGHT I always used), and the
> other that somehow showed up as a link on my desktop that I must have
> used to access the program at least once, like three days ago when I
> input my FIL information). Because if it's just two ways to access
> the same program, why wouldn't it save all the data, no matter which
> location I accessed the program from?


You probably don't have two installations of Legacy, just two copies of
your Family File.  If you double-click on a Family File in Windows
Explorer or on the Desktop Legacy will open and show that file.  You
could have several copies of the same Family File stored in different
places and double-clicking any of them would open the program with that
particular copy of the file showing.  When you are working on the file,
the data you enter will be automatically saved to that same file,
wherever it is saved.

You have used several different terms for what is stored on your
desktop.  What you are seeing could be a Family File, could be a folder
containing a Family File (I don't think it is), or could be a shortcut
to a Family File which is stored somewhere else on your computer. If it
was a shortcut the icon would include a little curved arrow.

It is most likely a copy of your Family File.  A likely way it ended up
on your desktop is that you maybe had some computer trouble at some time
and someone (you or a helper) copied your family file to the desktop so
it would be "safe" and not get removed while work was being done to fix
your computer.

Back a few years when you were regularly using Legacy, how did you open
the program and your Family File?  I expect you either opened the Legacy
program and your Family File was loaded automatically, or you located
the Family File and double-clicked on it.  That's fine!  But if at some
time recently you opened the program by double-clicking on a Family File
stored on your desktop, Legacy might have "remembered" that and opened
the same file next time.  That depends on how your options are set up,
but many people have Legacy set up to automatically load the last Family
File they worked on.

I hope this clarifies the situation for you.
--
Jenny M Benson




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Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please

[Barbara Ford]

So, asking a simplistic basic question here, as I try to figure out how this 
happened, and before I take my nervous self to the computer this morning to try 
to "fix" this: Does it appear that I in effect have two installations of Legacy 
on my computer (one that I access through the Legacy icon, the one I THOUGHT I 
always used), and the other that somehow showed up as a link on my desktop that 
I must have used to access the program at least once, like three days ago when 
I input my FIL information). Because if it's just two ways to access the same 
program, why wouldn't it save all the data, no matter which location I accessed 
the program from?




Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 24, 2016, at 6:54 PM, Cathy Pinner  wrote:
>
> Barbara,
>
> One way to check whether any recent data has been added to the file in
> Legacy\Data is to do a search on the modified Date
> Search - Find - Detailed Search Tab
> Individual - Modified Date - after - [enter your date here]
> Apart from the people you've been looking at to see what is going on, if
> you've exited them with Save rather than Cancel, this will show if
> you've been using this file to add data in the last couple of years.
>
> You can do the same search on the file in the Desktop Folder.
>
> If apart from this week everyone changed are in the same file, then I'd
> use that and just re-add your sad losses.
>
> If you can avoid even an Intellishare merge, you'll save time.
>
> One way the file may have got on the desktop is that you unzipped one of
> your backup files.
> The proper way to access a backup is to use Legacy - File - Restore.
>
> Cathy
>> Barbara Ford 
>> Monday, 25 January 2016 7:53 AM
>> Okay, have a couple of pieces of information to work with now, so will
>> see if I can get a handle on this! Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
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>
> Legacy User Group guidelines:
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please

[Barbara Ford]

Thank you, Cathy. Good information. No, I have never unzipped one of those back 
up files.


Sent from iPhone

> On Jan 24, 2016, at 6:54 PM, Cathy Pinner  wrote:
>
> Barbara,
>
> One way to check whether any recent data has been added to the file in
> Legacy\Data is to do a search on the modified Date
> Search - Find - Detailed Search Tab
> Individual - Modified Date - after - [enter your date here]
> Apart from the people you've been looking at to see what is going on, if
> you've exited them with Save rather than Cancel, this will show if
> you've been using this file to add data in the last couple of years.
>
> You can do the same search on the file in the Desktop Folder.
>
> If apart from this week everyone changed are in the same file, then I'd
> use that and just re-add your sad losses.
>
> If you can avoid even an Intellishare merge, you'll save time.
>
> One way the file may have got on the desktop is that you unzipped one of
> your backup files.
> The proper way to access a backup is to use Legacy - File - Restore.
>
> Cathy
>> Barbara Ford 
>> Monday, 25 January 2016 7:53 AM
>> Okay, have a couple of pieces of information to work with now, so will
>> see if I can get a handle on this! Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Legacy User Group guidelines:
>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp
>> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
>> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/
>> Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com
>> Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree)
>> and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com).
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>
>
>
>
>
> Legacy User Group guidelines:
>
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>
> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please

[Cathy Pinner]

Barbara,

One way to check whether any recent data has been added to the file in
Legacy\Data is to do a search on the modified Date
Search - Find - Detailed Search Tab
Individual - Modified Date - after - [enter your date here]
Apart from the people you've been looking at to see what is going on, if
you've exited them with Save rather than Cancel, this will show if
you've been using this file to add data in the last couple of years.

You can do the same search on the file in the Desktop Folder.

If apart from this week everyone changed are in the same file, then I'd
use that and just re-add your sad losses.

If you can avoid even an Intellishare merge, you'll save time.

One way the file may have got on the desktop is that you unzipped one of
your backup files.
The proper way to access a backup is to use Legacy - File - Restore.

Cathy
> Barbara Ford 
> Monday, 25 January 2016 7:53 AM
> Okay, have a couple of pieces of information to work with now, so will
> see if I can get a handle on this! Thanks!
>
>
>
>
> Legacy User Group guidelines:
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp
> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/
> Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com
> Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree)
> and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com).
> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp





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Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please

[Barbara Ford]

Okay, have a couple of pieces of information to work with now, so will see
if I can get a handle on this! Thanks!

On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Henry T. Peterson Jr. 
wrote:

> *Barbara*
>
>
>
> *Go to Options-Customize*
>
> *Choose Locations Tab*
>
> *Next  Look at the Default Location of family files*
>
>
>
> *THAT is where to file you are using should be located.*
>
> *This if from Legacy 7.5 (which I believe is the same as in Version 6.0)*
>
>
>
> *Move **the most up to date file** to that location using file manager.*
>
>
>
> *Good luck*
>
> *Henry*
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Barbara Ford [mailto:pastors...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 24, 2016 4:35 PM
> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please
>
>
>
> Maybe I can simplify by asking this question: Where do I look (in Legacy)
> to see where my data is going? I want it to go to C:\Legacy\Data. And then
> can I safely delete that "stray" link on my desktop? I only want ONE way to
> access Legacy.
>
> Barbara
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
> On Jan 24, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Barbara Ford  wrote:
>
>
>
> Oh dear. I am even more confused. Even though I have been using computers
> since the mid-80's and consider myself fairly tech savvy, sometimes I
> wonder what made me think I could successfully use and understand a program
> so robust as Legacy. I want to be very careful with what I do next, because
> I believe all my data was intact and in the places where I expected it to
> be just prior to entering the death information about my father-in-law a
> couple of days ago. So, I think that maybe if I ask my questions one at a
> time, I will better be able to understand what I need to do to move forward
> with a clear understanding (and if I need to manually re-enter the info
> about my FIL, that's no big deal). So, once I open the file that was up to
> date prior to the FIL data, THAT is the way I would want to save it, going
> forward.
>
>
>
> I'm not even sure if I am making sense. But, at the foundational level, I
> need to know if what I have understood (and has worked for me) for years is
> correct (for v 6):
>
> I understood that Legacy saves data on the fly (while I am working and
> when I exit), automatically. It was my understanding that data saves in
> c:\Legacy\Data and that within that folder, the file is familytreewip.fdb.
> IN ADDITION to that, and as an extra precaution, when I exit, I am asked if
> I want to backup. I always understood that to be EXTRA backup--it is at
> that point that I name the file and point it to My Documents folder, and I
> name it with the date; it is a zip file. So, first I need to know if those
> two things are correct. (I have made myself a note, years ago, that if I
> ever need to reinstall Legacy, it would know to look on C:\Legacy for my
> data. That has always worked for me.)
>
>
>
> Meanwhile, I do not know how or when, there is a link on my desktop that I
> believe is basically a shortcut to my data, as when I right click on it, it
> says familytreewip.fdb. (A few years ago, when I had trouble getting Legacy
> 6 to work with my new Windows 7, someone in this group helped meit may
> have been in that process that the link got put on my desktop. I have never
> used it to open Legacy--I have always used the software icon, to my
> knowledge.)
>
>
>
> It almost seems to me like there are two ways to access Legacy on my
> laptop: one, the Legacy 6.0 icon, which when hovering over, says, Location:
> Legacy (C:\Legacy) and then there is this link that is there that I have
> never knowingly used, that is labeled familytreewip.fdb but when hovering
> over says Type: Legacy Genealogy Software, 12.7 MB, and has today's date as
> the date modified (because I opened Legacy with that icon awhile ago when I
> realized it was there).
>
>
>
> While in Charting Companion, noticing that it was not using the most
> recent data about my FIL, I saw a reference to two locations for the data,
> one being my desktop.
>
>
>
> So now, if I open Legacy by clicking on the desktop link, it does have the
> most recent info about my FIL's death, but it does not have the information
> about my mother's death, two years ago.
>
>
>
> I do not want to merge data or do anything extreme, because I think all
> was well until entering FIL's data a couple of days ago. So, I could open
> the file from the C:\Legacy\Data location of the file, and then manually
> re-enter the FIL data. BUT before I do that, I need to understand where my
> data is going (how to I find the default location for my file), and I

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please

[Barbara Ford]

Thank you. After I work with these suggestions, I'll post my further
questions.

On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 5:42 PM, R G Strong-genes 
wrote:

> Barbara,
> With Legacy open you can find out where your file is stored. Open the file
> menu and at the bottom it will show a list of recently opened files and
> their path. You can also open the About Legacy and the General tab and it
> will also under file information it will show the Family File Folder and
> the Legacy Folder for the file that is open. To set the Default location of
> family files go to Options then goto the Locations tab and you can set the
> locations on that screen.
>
> Once you have the correct file be it the one on the desktop or the file in
> the data folder you can do either:
> If it is the one on the desktop then do File> Save Family File as and save
> it to your Data folder with a new name or the same name.
> If it is the one in the data folder then you are ok. If this file is
> current then you are done and can delete the one on the desktop. If not
> then you can do the merge as I instructed in the previous email. If you
> don’t want to merge then you may have to re enter the data.
>
>
> *From:* Barbara Ford 
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 24, 2016 5:35 PM
> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please
>
> Maybe I can simplify by asking this question: Where do I look (in Legacy)
> to see where my data is going? I want it to go to C:\Legacy\Data. And then
> can I safely delete that "stray" link on my desktop? I only want ONE way to
> access Legacy.
> Barbara
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jan 24, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Barbara Ford  wrote:
>
>
> Oh dear. I am even more confused. Even though I have been using computers
> since the mid-80's and consider myself fairly tech savvy, sometimes I
> wonder what made me think I could successfully use and understand a program
> so robust as Legacy. I want to be very careful with what I do next, because
> I believe all my data was intact and in the places where I expected it to
> be just prior to entering the death information about my father-in-law a
> couple of days ago. So, I think that maybe if I ask my questions one at a
> time, I will better be able to understand what I need to do to move forward
> with a clear understanding (and if I need to manually re-enter the info
> about my FIL, that's no big deal). So, once I open the file that was up to
> date prior to the FIL data, THAT is the way I would want to save it, going
> forward.
>
> I'm not even sure if I am making sense. But, at the foundational level, I
> need to know if what I have understood (and has worked for me) for years is
> correct (for v 6):
> I understood that Legacy saves data on the fly (while I am working and
> when I exit), automatically. It was my understanding that data saves in
> c:\Legacy\Data and that within that folder, the file is familytreewip.fdb.
> IN ADDITION to that, and as an extra precaution, when I exit, I am asked if
> I want to backup. I always understood that to be EXTRA backup--it is at
> that point that I name the file and point it to My Documents folder, and I
> name it with the date; it is a zip file. So, first I need to know if those
> two things are correct. (I have made myself a note, years ago, that if I
> ever need to reinstall Legacy, it would know to look on C:\Legacy for my
> data. That has always worked for me.)
>
> Meanwhile, I do not know how or when, there is a link on my desktop that I
> believe is basically a shortcut to my data, as when I right click on it, it
> says familytreewip.fdb. (A few years ago, when I had trouble getting Legacy
> 6 to work with my new Windows 7, someone in this group helped meit may
> have been in that process that the link got put on my desktop. I have never
> used it to open Legacy--I have always used the software icon, to my
> knowledge.)
>
> It almost seems to me like there are two ways to access Legacy on my
> laptop: one, the Legacy 6.0 icon, which when hovering over, says, Location:
> Legacy (C:\Legacy) and then there is this link that is there that I have
> never knowingly used, that is labeled familytreewip.fdb but when hovering
> over says Type: Legacy Genealogy Software, 12.7 MB, and has today's date as
> the date modified (because I opened Legacy with that icon awhile ago when I
> realized it was there).
>
> While in Charting Companion, noticing that it was not using the most
> recent data about my FIL, I saw a reference to two locations for the data,
> one being my desktop.
>
> So now, if I open Legacy by clicking on the desktop link, it does have the
> most recent info about my FIL's death, but it does not have the information

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please

[R G Strong-genes]

Barbara,
With Legacy open you can find out where your file is stored. Open the file menu 
and at the bottom it will show a list of recently opened files and their path. 
You can also open the About Legacy and the General tab and it will also under 
file information it will show the Family File Folder and the Legacy Folder for 
the file that is open. To set the Default location of family files go to 
Options then goto the Locations tab and you can set the locations on that 
screen.

Once you have the correct file be it the one on the desktop or the file in the 
data folder you can do either:
If it is the one on the desktop then do File> Save Family File as and save it 
to your Data folder with a new name or the same name.
If it is the one in the data folder then you are ok. If this file is current 
then you are done and can delete the one on the desktop. If not then you can do 
the merge as I instructed in the previous email. If you don’t want to merge 
then you may have to re enter the data.


From: Barbara Ford
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 5:35 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please

Maybe I can simplify by asking this question: Where do I look (in Legacy) to 
see where my data is going? I want it to go to C:\Legacy\Data. And then can I 
safely delete that "stray" link on my desktop? I only want ONE way to access 
Legacy.
Barbara



Sent from my iPad

On Jan 24, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Barbara Ford  wrote:



  Oh dear. I am even more confused. Even though I have been using computers 
since the mid-80's and consider myself fairly tech savvy, sometimes I wonder 
what made me think I could successfully use and understand a program so robust 
as Legacy. I want to be very careful with what I do next, because I believe all 
my data was intact and in the places where I expected it to be just prior to 
entering the death information about my father-in-law a couple of days ago. So, 
I think that maybe if I ask my questions one at a time, I will better be able 
to understand what I need to do to move forward with a clear understanding (and 
if I need to manually re-enter the info about my FIL, that's no big deal). So, 
once I open the file that was up to date prior to the FIL data, THAT is the way 
I would want to save it, going forward.


  I'm not even sure if I am making sense. But, at the foundational level, I 
need to know if what I have understood (and has worked for me) for years is 
correct (for v 6):
  I understood that Legacy saves data on the fly (while I am working and when I 
exit), automatically. It was my understanding that data saves in c:\Legacy\Data 
and that within that folder, the file is familytreewip.fdb. IN ADDITION to 
that, and as an extra precaution, when I exit, I am asked if I want to backup. 
I always understood that to be EXTRA backup--it is at that point that I name 
the file and point it to My Documents folder, and I name it with the date; it 
is a zip file. So, first I need to know if those two things are correct. (I 
have made myself a note, years ago, that if I ever need to reinstall Legacy, it 
would know to look on C:\Legacy for my data. That has always worked for me.)


  Meanwhile, I do not know how or when, there is a link on my desktop that I 
believe is basically a shortcut to my data, as when I right click on it, it 
says familytreewip.fdb. (A few years ago, when I had trouble getting Legacy 6 
to work with my new Windows 7, someone in this group helped meit may have 
been in that process that the link got put on my desktop. I have never used it 
to open Legacy--I have always used the software icon, to my knowledge.)


  It almost seems to me like there are two ways to access Legacy on my laptop: 
one, the Legacy 6.0 icon, which when hovering over, says, Location: Legacy 
(C:\Legacy) and then there is this link that is there that I have never 
knowingly used, that is labeled familytreewip.fdb but when hovering over says 
Type: Legacy Genealogy Software, 12.7 MB, and has today's date as the date 
modified (because I opened Legacy with that icon awhile ago when I realized it 
was there).


  While in Charting Companion, noticing that it was not using the most recent 
data about my FIL, I saw a reference to two locations for the data, one being 
my desktop.


  So now, if I open Legacy by clicking on the desktop link, it does have the 
most recent info about my FIL's death, but it does not have the information 
about my mother's death, two years ago.


  I do not want to merge data or do anything extreme, because I think all was 
well until entering FIL's data a couple of days ago. So, I could open the file 
from the C:\Legacy\Data location of the file, and then manually re-enter the 
FIL data. BUT before I do that, I need to understand where my data is going 
(how to I find the default location for my file), and I would then want to make 
sure I never use that desktop link again.

RE: [LegacyUG] Help, please

[Henry T. Peterson Jr.]

Barbara



Go to Options-Customize

Choose Locations Tab

Next  Look at the Default Location of family files



THAT is where to file you are using should be located.

This if from Legacy 7.5 (which I believe is the same as in Version 6.0)



Move the most up to date file to that location using file manager.



Good luck

Henry





From: Barbara Ford [mailto:pastors...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 4:35 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please



Maybe I can simplify by asking this question: Where do I look (in Legacy) to 
see where my data is going? I want it to go to C:\Legacy\Data. And then can I 
safely delete that "stray" link on my desktop? I only want ONE way to access 
Legacy.

Barbara



Sent from my iPad


On Jan 24, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Barbara Ford mailto:pastors...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Oh dear. I am even more confused. Even though I have been using computers since 
the mid-80's and consider myself fairly tech savvy, sometimes I wonder what 
made me think I could successfully use and understand a program so robust as 
Legacy. I want to be very careful with what I do next, because I believe all my 
data was intact and in the places where I expected it to be just prior to 
entering the death information about my father-in-law a couple of days ago. So, 
I think that maybe if I ask my questions one at a time, I will better be able 
to understand what I need to do to move forward with a clear understanding (and 
if I need to manually re-enter the info about my FIL, that's no big deal). So, 
once I open the file that was up to date prior to the FIL data, THAT is the way 
I would want to save it, going forward.





I'm not even sure if I am making sense. But, at the foundational level, I need 
to know if what I have understood (and has worked for me) for years is correct 
(for v 6):

I understood that Legacy saves data on the fly (while I am working and when I 
exit), automatically. It was my understanding that data saves in c:\Legacy\Data 
and that within that folder, the file is familytreewip.fdb. IN ADDITION to 
that, and as an extra precaution, when I exit, I am asked if I want to backup. 
I always understood that to be EXTRA backup--it is at that point that I name 
the file and point it to My Documents folder, and I name it with the date; it 
is a zip file. So, first I need to know if those two things are correct. (I 
have made myself a note, years ago, that if I ever need to reinstall Legacy, it 
would know to look on C:\Legacy for my data. That has always worked for me.)





Meanwhile, I do not know how or when, there is a link on my desktop that I 
believe is basically a shortcut to my data, as when I right click on it, it 
says familytreewip.fdb. (A few years ago, when I had trouble getting Legacy 6 
to work with my new Windows 7, someone in this group helped meit may have 
been in that process that the link got put on my desktop. I have never used it 
to open Legacy--I have always used the software icon, to my knowledge.)





It almost seems to me like there are two ways to access Legacy on my laptop: 
one, the Legacy 6.0 icon, which when hovering over, says, Location: Legacy 
(C:\Legacy) and then there is this link that is there that I have never 
knowingly used, that is labeled familytreewip.fdb but when hovering over says 
Type: Legacy Genealogy Software, 12.7 MB, and has today's date as the date 
modified (because I opened Legacy with that icon awhile ago when I realized it 
was there).





While in Charting Companion, noticing that it was not using the most recent 
data about my FIL, I saw a reference to two locations for the data, one being 
my desktop.





So now, if I open Legacy by clicking on the desktop link, it does have the most 
recent info about my FIL's death, but it does not have the information about my 
mother's death, two years ago.





I do not want to merge data or do anything extreme, because I think all was 
well until entering FIL's data a couple of days ago. So, I could open the file 
from the C:\Legacy\Data location of the file, and then manually re-enter the 
FIL data. BUT before I do that, I need to understand where my data is going 
(how to I find the default location for my file), and I would then want to make 
sure I never use that desktop link again.





I am so sorry that I cannot seem to express my question in a concise and 
reasonable manner. I so appreciate everyone's efforts to help me, I just don't 
like using something that I don't have at least a rudimentary grasp on how it 
works, in terms of data safety. I thought I had it, but sure don't understand 
what just happened!





If anyone is brave enough to jump into my confusion again, I do truly 
appreciate it.

Barbara








Sent from my iPad





On Jan 24, 2016, at 2:45 PM, R G Strong-genes mailto:rgstrongge...@gmail.com> > wrote:




Barbara,
Is the one on the 

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please

[Barbara Ford]

n you can just copy all those files to your Data folder for
>> Legacy. Then open legacy and search for the file you want to open. Then
>> check your Legacy options and specify how you want to open legacy. It is
>> probably set to open the last file opened. When you are working on Legacy
>> the changes are always in the file you are working on where ever it is
>> located. So when it closes if it doesn't ask for a backup it will be the
>> same folder that you opened it from, if you happen to have that file in a
>> different folder and open it from that folder you will not see the changes
>> as they are actually in a different file. When you back up a file either by
>> requesting a backup or when you close and it asks for one make sure the path
>> is where you want it before you click save. The newer versions actually
>> append the date and time to the backup so if you have several with the same
>> file name you will know which is the latest backup. It is always best to
>> keep your working family files in the same location so you know where your
>> up to date files are. If you need to store them on another drive then I
>> would recommend just saving the backup file of it on another drive and when
>> you want to work on it then you can restore the family file to your working
>> directory. I use google drive and only store my backups to that drive. I
>> also store  a copy of the legacy installation file, registration file, and
>> user files for Legacy in there own folders on the google drive. I have both
>> Legacy 7.5 and 8 on my computer so I have a folder for each version on the
>> google drive for the corresponding programs.
>>
>> If you have different updates to your family file in more than one folder
>> and you want to get them all into one file and they are copies from the same
>> family file then you should be able to use the intellishare options under
>> the find duplicates merge function. Open the oldest file and merge the
>> changed files into it.
>>
>> from the help file:
>>
>> Here is how IntelliShare works:
>>
>> Form a research group of two or more people. (Each must be using Legacy.)
>> One person in the group is designated as the "Keeper of the Records" (Keeper
>> for short). This person keeps the master Family File. Legacy automatically
>> marks all the records in the Master Family File with a serial number that
>> uniquely identifies each individual. The Keeper now sends a copy of the
>> Family File to all the other people participating in the group.
>>
>> Any or all members of the group can make changes to existing records, delete
>> or unlink records, or add new records to the family file. The Keeper can
>> also make changes and additions to the master file.
>>
>> After an agreed upon interval of time, all members of the group return a
>> copy of the family file to the Keeper for merging and reconciliation.
>>
>> The Keeper then follows this procedure:
>>
>> Import all copies of the family file into the master copy (after making a
>> backup of course).
>>
>> Press the Merge button and choose Find Duplicates.
>>
>> From the Merge Options window, click on the Special Searches tab and choose
>> the IntelliShare option.
>>
>> Press the Continue button in the upper right corner of the Merge Options
>> window. Legacy searches for all records with matching IntelliShare values
>> and automatically merges those that have exactly the same information. At
>> the end of this process Legacy displays the records where one or more
>> persons have made changes. Legacy also looks at all surrounding links when
>> deciding to merge. If the parents, spouses or children are different in any
>> way, the two individuals are displayed along with a message describing the
>> situation. All these messages are also saved in a file called MERGE.LOG.
>> Legacy offers to display this file at the end of the merge process.
>>
>> The only records the Keeper has to look at and merge together are the ones
>> that have been changed by someone in the group.
>>
>> At the end of the merge process, a list of any newly added individuals is
>> displayed.
>>
>> After the merge is complete, the Keeper sends a new copy of the family file
>> back to the other group members for more changes and additions.
>>
>> Legacy's IntelliShare greatly reduces the drudgery involved when going
>> through the typical match-merge process needed to combine two or more files.
>>
>> hope this helps,
>>
>> Russ
>>
>> -Original Message-
>

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please

[Barbara Ford]

p or when you close and it asks for one make sure the path
> is where you want it before you click save. The newer versions actually
> append the date and time to the backup so if you have several with the same
> file name you will know which is the latest backup. It is always best to
> keep your working family files in the same location so you know where your
> up to date files are. If you need to store them on another drive then I
> would recommend just saving the backup file of it on another drive and when
> you want to work on it then you can restore the family file to your working
> directory. I use google drive and only store my backups to that drive. I
> also store  a copy of the legacy installation file, registration file, and
> user files for Legacy in there own folders on the google drive. I have both
> Legacy 7.5 and 8 on my computer so I have a folder for each version on the
> google drive for the corresponding programs.
>
> If you have different updates to your family file in more than one folder
> and you want to get them all into one file and they are copies from the same
> family file then you should be able to use the intellishare options under
> the find duplicates merge function. Open the oldest file and merge the
> changed files into it.
>
> from the help file:
>
> Here is how IntelliShare works:
>
> Form a research group of two or more people. (Each must be using Legacy.)
> One person in the group is designated as the "Keeper of the Records" (Keeper
> for short). This person keeps the master Family File. Legacy automatically
> marks all the records in the Master Family File with a serial number that
> uniquely identifies each individual. The Keeper now sends a copy of the
> Family File to all the other people participating in the group.
>
> Any or all members of the group can make changes to existing records, delete
> or unlink records, or add new records to the family file. The Keeper can
> also make changes and additions to the master file.
>
> After an agreed upon interval of time, all members of the group return a
> copy of the family file to the Keeper for merging and reconciliation.
>
> The Keeper then follows this procedure:
>
> Import all copies of the family file into the master copy (after making a
> backup of course).
>
> Press the Merge button and choose Find Duplicates.
>
> From the Merge Options window, click on the Special Searches tab and choose
> the IntelliShare option.
>
> Press the Continue button in the upper right corner of the Merge Options
> window. Legacy searches for all records with matching IntelliShare values
> and automatically merges those that have exactly the same information. At
> the end of this process Legacy displays the records where one or more
> persons have made changes. Legacy also looks at all surrounding links when
> deciding to merge. If the parents, spouses or children are different in any
> way, the two individuals are displayed along with a message describing the
> situation. All these messages are also saved in a file called MERGE.LOG.
> Legacy offers to display this file at the end of the merge process.
>
> The only records the Keeper has to look at and merge together are the ones
> that have been changed by someone in the group.
>
> At the end of the merge process, a list of any newly added individuals is
> displayed.
>
> After the merge is complete, the Keeper sends a new copy of the family file
> back to the other group members for more changes and additions.
>
> Legacy's IntelliShare greatly reduces the drudgery involved when going
> through the typical match-merge process needed to combine two or more files.
>
> hope this helps,
>
> Russ
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Barbara Ford
> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 2:05 PM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Help, please
>
>
> I have been using Legacy for years, and although still using version 6.0,
> because I haven't done any serious research work since I was using that
> version, I thought I was very "on" to how the backups work. In my mind,
> there is an "on the fly" backup that puts data in
> C:\Legacy\Data\familytreewip.fdb (with familytreewip being the "name" of my
> data). Then when I exit the program, when it prompts me to back up, I also
> do that, and that is a zip file that I keep in my documents folder. In the
> last three years, while I have not been actively involved in research, we
> have lost three of our parents, and I have updated Legacy with all that
> information. Today I have discovered that the data has been going to
> different places (do not understand how that could have happened). I
> discovered it (and maybe

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please

[R G Strong-genes]

Barbara,
Is the one on the desktop a folder or is it a link to your data folder? If
it actually a folder with just the familytreewip.fdb and user files
associated with that family file and it has the most current file
information then you can just copy all those files to your Data folder for
Legacy. Then open legacy and search for the file you want to open. Then
check your Legacy options and specify how you want to open legacy. It is
probably set to open the last file opened. When you are working on Legacy
the changes are always in the file you are working on where ever it is
located. So when it closes if it doesn't ask for a backup it will be the
same folder that you opened it from, if you happen to have that file in a
different folder and open it from that folder you will not see the changes
as they are actually in a different file. When you back up a file either by
requesting a backup or when you close and it asks for one make sure the path
is where you want it before you click save. The newer versions actually
append the date and time to the backup so if you have several with the same
file name you will know which is the latest backup. It is always best to
keep your working family files in the same location so you know where your
up to date files are. If you need to store them on another drive then I
would recommend just saving the backup file of it on another drive and when
you want to work on it then you can restore the family file to your working
directory. I use google drive and only store my backups to that drive. I
also store  a copy of the legacy installation file, registration file, and
user files for Legacy in there own folders on the google drive. I have both
Legacy 7.5 and 8 on my computer so I have a folder for each version on the
google drive for the corresponding programs.

If you have different updates to your family file in more than one folder
and you want to get them all into one file and they are copies from the same
family file then you should be able to use the intellishare options under
the find duplicates merge function. Open the oldest file and merge the
changed files into it.

from the help file:

Here is how IntelliShare works:

Form a research group of two or more people. (Each must be using Legacy.)
One person in the group is designated as the "Keeper of the Records" (Keeper
for short). This person keeps the master Family File. Legacy automatically
marks all the records in the Master Family File with a serial number that
uniquely identifies each individual. The Keeper now sends a copy of the
Family File to all the other people participating in the group.

Any or all members of the group can make changes to existing records, delete
or unlink records, or add new records to the family file. The Keeper can
also make changes and additions to the master file.

After an agreed upon interval of time, all members of the group return a
copy of the family file to the Keeper for merging and reconciliation.

The Keeper then follows this procedure:

Import all copies of the family file into the master copy (after making a
backup of course).

Press the Merge button and choose Find Duplicates.

>From the Merge Options window, click on the Special Searches tab and choose
the IntelliShare option.

Press the Continue button in the upper right corner of the Merge Options
window. Legacy searches for all records with matching IntelliShare values
and automatically merges those that have exactly the same information. At
the end of this process Legacy displays the records where one or more
persons have made changes. Legacy also looks at all surrounding links when
deciding to merge. If the parents, spouses or children are different in any
way, the two individuals are displayed along with a message describing the
situation. All these messages are also saved in a file called MERGE.LOG.
Legacy offers to display this file at the end of the merge process.

The only records the Keeper has to look at and merge together are the ones
that have been changed by someone in the group.

At the end of the merge process, a list of any newly added individuals is
displayed.

After the merge is complete, the Keeper sends a new copy of the family file
back to the other group members for more changes and additions.

Legacy's IntelliShare greatly reduces the drudgery involved when going
through the typical match-merge process needed to combine two or more files.

hope this helps,

Russ

-Original Message-
From: Barbara Ford
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 2:05 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Help, please


I have been using Legacy for years, and although still using version 6.0,
because I haven't done any serious research work since I was using that
version, I thought I was very "on" to how the backups work. In my mind,
there is an "on the fly" backup that puts data in
C:\Legacy\Data\familytreewip.fdb (with familytreewip being the "nam

[LegacyUG] Help, please

[Barbara Ford]

I have been using Legacy for years, and although still using version 6.0, 
because I haven't done any serious research work since I was using that 
version, I thought I was very "on" to how the backups work. In my mind, there 
is an "on the fly" backup that puts data in C:\Legacy\Data\familytreewip.fdb 
(with familytreewip being the "name" of my data). Then when I exit the program, 
when it prompts me to back up, I also do that, and that is a zip file that I 
keep in my documents folder. In the last three years, while I have not been 
actively involved in research, we have lost three of our parents, and I have 
updated Legacy with all that information. Today I have discovered that the data 
has been going to different places (do not understand how that could have 
happened). I discovered it (and maybe this will help with troubleshooting) when 
I tried to use Legacy Charting Companion and it wasn't bringing in the death 
information from Legacy, just posted a couple of days ago. I have now figured 
out that there is a familytreewip.fdb folder on my desktop. Some of the data I 
have entered in the last three years is there (visible when I open Legacy from 
that file), and when I go to C:\Legacy\Data\familytreewip.fdb, the most recent 
data is NOT there (and therefore not coming in to Charting Companion). Once I 
open Legacy from one location or the other, it opens it back up from there the 
next time I open Legacy. So, now there is one "version" of Legacy that has 
recent death information, and then the one out on C:\Legacy has data updated 
two years ago. I do not know what to do, and right after the death of my 
father-in-law is NOT a good time for me to realize something is wrong. Mainly, 
I don't know how to bring it together, and I don't know how to tell where it is 
actually going when I exit NOW. I do periodically copy the contents of 
c:\Legacy\Data to an external hard drive, and I have done that fairly recently. 
But even if I open the Legacy program from there, and discover that the only 
thing I have to re-input is my father-in-law's death information, I'm so 
confused now about where it all goes when I exit. I guess my main confusion is 
why it is sometimes going to the desktop file (and why is it even there?) and 
not to C:\Legacy. I am so sorry to be so unclear, but can anyone help me? I'm 
not so concerned about the Charting Companion--that's just what helped me 
discover that data is not going where I thought it was, when exiting.
Barbara Ford


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Re: [LegacyUG] Help please Bookmark individual

[Sherry/Support]

The Help file in Legacy is more comprehensive than the printed manual
(printing and shipping costs go up as a book gets bigger ) and
updated regularly.

If you can't find something in the manual, try the Help file .
Every window in Legacy has a Help button that goes right to the topic
for that feature.


Sincerely,
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Legacy Family Tree


On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 8:53 AM, I Macaulay  wrote:
> I actually bought the manual, of course they keep changing the rules and do
> not send updates to the written copy.  And it helps to know Right from left.
>
> Cognitive capabilities vary.
>
> Ian
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Re: [LegacyUG] Help please Bookmark individual

[I Macaulay]

I actually bought the manual, of course they keep changing the rules and do not 
send updates to the written copy.  And it helps to know Right from left.
Cognitive capabilities vary.

Ian If at first you don't succeed, then sky diving is not for you.

Ian Macaulay   Carp, Ontario
Open at 10:AM   Close at 5:00 PM
45.2397 N long: 76.0991 W Elv 137 M UTM
    Don't Forget to Save the Stamps

  From: Brian L. Lightfoot 
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 11:39 PM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Help please Bookmark individual

Or you can just use the Help system for what its designed for. Click on the 
SEARCH tab, type in "bookmarks". Instant results; no waiting.

Brian in CA


-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:20 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help please Bookmark individual

Yes they can but not using the method you describe.

1. To add a bookmark you RIGHT Click
2. To delete one you CTRL Right Click

Left Click will jump to the person set in an existing bookmark but it will not 
set a bookmark.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


On 01/09/2015 7:54 PM, I Macaulay wrote:
> This latest download seems to have wiped out the book marks I had set
> on the bottom of Family view.When I went to reset them , things went
> wonky.  Can someone please tell me using the most current load of
> legacy if the book marks can be added and changed as they are supposed
> to be? Scenerio:  I started with the blank space.  Clicked to get the
> book mark that was not there ( Its habitual and I didn't notice it was
> empty until after clicking)  It immediately added the name that I was
> currently displaying in Family View.  I right clicked to delete it and
> and Legacy said it was gone,  but it was still there.  I tried to add,
> change, etc but nothing.  Then I tried to delete it again but now the
> delete window does not show up.

Ian






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RE: [LegacyUG] Help please Bookmark individual

[Brian L. Lightfoot]

Or you can just use the Help system for what its designed for. Click on the 
SEARCH tab, type in "bookmarks". Instant results; no waiting.

Brian in CA


-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:20 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help please Bookmark individual

Yes they can but not using the method you describe.

1. To add a bookmark you RIGHT Click
2. To delete one you CTRL Right Click

Left Click will jump to the person set in an existing bookmark but it will not 
set a bookmark.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


On 01/09/2015 7:54 PM, I Macaulay wrote:
> This latest download seems to have wiped out the book marks I had set
> on the bottom of Family view.When I went to reset them , things went
> wonky.  Can someone please tell me using the most current load of
> legacy if the book marks can be added and changed as they are supposed
> to be? Scenerio:  I started with the blank space.  Clicked to get the
> book mark that was not there ( Its habitual and I didn't notice it was
> empty until after clicking)  It immediately added the name that I was
> currently displaying in Family View.  I right clicked to delete it and
> and Legacy said it was gone,  but it was still there.  I tried to add,
> change, etc but nothing.  Then I tried to delete it again but now the
> delete window does not show up.

Ian






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Re: [LegacyUG] Help please Bookmark individual

[I Macaulay]

Perfect!   Thank you.   I am back in business. I used to be a banker,  but then 
I lost interest.

Ian Macaulay   Carp, Ontario
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45.2397 N long: 76.0991 W Elv 137 M UTM
    Don't Forget to Save the Stamps

  From: Brian/Support 
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 8:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help please Bookmark individual

Yes they can but not using the method you describe.

1. To add a bookmark you RIGHT Click
2. To delete one you CTRL Right Click

Left Click will jump to the person set in an existing bookmark but it
will not set a bookmark.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


On 01/09/2015 7:54 PM, I Macaulay wrote:
> This latest download seems to have wiped out the book marks I had set
> on the bottom of Family view.When I went to reset them , things went
> wonky.  Can someone please tell me using the most current load of
> legacy if the book marks can be added and changed as they are
> supposed to be? Scenerio:  I started with the blank space.  Clicked
> to get the book mark that was not there ( Its habitual and I didn't
> notice it was empty until after clicking)  It immediately added the
> name that I was currently displaying in Family View.  I right clicked
> to delete it and and Legacy said it was gone,  but it was still
> there.  I tried to add, change, etc but nothing.  Then I tried to
> delete it again but now the delete window does not show up.

Ian




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[LegacyUG] Help please Bookmark individual

[I Macaulay]

This latest download seems to have wiped out the book marks I had set on the 
bottom of Family view.When I went to reset them , things went wonky.  Can 
someone please tell me using the most current load of legacy if the book marks 
can be added and changed as they are supposed to be?
Scenerio:  I started with the blank space.  Clicked to get the book mark that 
was not there ( Its habitual and I didn't notice it was empty until after 
clicking)  It immediately added the name that I was currently displaying in 
Family View.  I right clicked to delete it and and Legacy said it was gone,  
but it was still there.  I tried to add, change, etc but nothing.  Then I tried 
to delete it again but now the delete window does not show up.
Ian

 I used to be a banker,  but then I lost interest.

Ian Macaulay   Carp, Ontario
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45.2397 N long: 76.0991 W Elv 137 M UTM
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Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please

[Dave Whisner]

u need to add him as u would anyother husband as u add existing name
then u go to her marriages an it will show them
then u sort if u have their marriage dates or sort manually

the u add the children the same way
then u go to edit children on each name u can go down an put adopted my the 
adapted fathers name




On Sunday, December 22, 2013 10:43 AM, Jay 1FamilyTree 
<1familytree@gmail.com> wrote:

John, 

When on the family view page for Fran and Dennis,
Right click on the children to bring up the Edit Children dialog, select one 
daughter, in the relationship to Father and Mother drop down boxes enter 
Biological. 

Then go to the family view for Fran and Jim, right click on the children and in 
the Relationship to Father and Mother enter Adopted for the Father and 
Biological for the Mother. 

Ensure that the marriage date for Fran and Jim is after the date for Fran and 
Dennis, Highlight Fran and right click on her spouses and make sure that they 
are sorted by date. 

That should give you what you are looking for. 

Hope that helps, 

Jay 


 




On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 7:54 AM, John H Stokes  wrote:


>Hi, Folks,
> 
>After spending hours with the Legacy User Manual, Legacy help files, Legacy
tutorials, and searching online, I'm no closer to satisfaction than when I
began. Can you help?
> 
>The sequence of events is that after Fran's husband (Dennis) died, my
brother (Jim) married Fran and legally adopted her 2 daughters.
> 
>I'm hoping that you can tell me the best way to show Dennis as Fran's first
husband and father of the girls, and then show Jim as the girls adoptive Father
in Legacy 8.
> 
>So far, my efforts in entering this data have been disappointing and
frustrating, and charts have been a complete disaster.
> 
>Thanks a bunch for any assistance,
> 
>John
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please

[Jay 1FamilyTree]

John,

When on the family view page for Fran and Dennis,
Right click on the children to bring up the Edit Children dialog, select
one daughter, in the relationship to Father and Mother drop down boxes
enter Biological.

Then go to the family view for Fran and Jim, right click on the children
and in the Relationship to Father and Mother enter Adopted for the Father
and Biological for the Mother.

Ensure that the marriage date for Fran and Jim is after the date for Fran
and Dennis, Highlight Fran and right click on her spouses and make sure
that they are sorted by date.

That should give you what you are looking for.

Hope that helps,

Jay






On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 7:54 AM, John H Stokes wrote:

>  Hi, Folks,
>
> After spending hours with the Legacy User Manual, Legacy help files,
> Legacy tutorials, and searching online, I'm no closer to satisfaction than
> when I began. Can you help?
>
> The sequence of events is that after Fran's husband (Dennis) died, my
> brother (Jim) married Fran and legally adopted her 2 daughters.
>
> I'm hoping that you can tell me the best way to show Dennis as Fran's
> first husband and father of the girls, and then show Jim as the girls
> adoptive Father in Legacy 8.
>
> So far, my efforts in entering this data have been disappointing and
> frustrating, and charts have been a complete disaster.
>
> Thanks a bunch for any assistance,
>
> John
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please

[MikeFry]

On 2013/12/22 17:54, John H Stokes wrote:

> The sequence of events is that after Fran's husband (Dennis) died, my brother
> (Jim) married Fran and legally adopted her 2 daughters.
> I'm hoping that you can tell me the best way to show Dennis as Fran's first
> husband and father of the girls, and then show Jim as the girls adoptive 
> Father
> in Legacy 8.

Basically, the girls need to have two sets of parents

a) Fran + Denis, and
b) Fran + Jim

For the first set of parents, the girls would be the natural, biological
children. So far so good! This is normal stuff.

Now, when Fran remarries Jim, she gets a second spouse and the girls are still
Frans' natural children, but they need to be assigned Jim as another father and
their status set as Adopted.

To do this you need Fran + Jim as the Family. Then, Link an existing child to
the family. Select one of the girls. Ignore the warning about the child being a
member of another family. Repeat for the second girl.

Get both girls linked to Fran + Jim, then open up the Children's Settings. Set
the Relationship to Father to Adopted. Your only problem after that, should be
whether and how to record any Surname change for the girls.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)



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[LegacyUG] Help, please

[John H Stokes]

Hi, Folks,

After spending hours with the Legacy User Manual, Legacy help files, Legacy 
tutorials, and searching online, I'm no closer to satisfaction than when I 
began. Can you help?

The sequence of events is that after Fran's husband (Dennis) died, my brother 
(Jim) married Fran and legally adopted her 2 daughters.

I'm hoping that you can tell me the best way to show Dennis as Fran's first 
husband and father of the girls, and then show Jim as the girls adoptive Father 
in Legacy 8.

So far, my efforts in entering this data have been disappointing and 
frustrating, and charts have been a complete disaster.

Thanks a bunch for any assistance,

John




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