Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?
Jackie Thanks for pointing that out for those who don't know it. I'm familiar with the limitations of GEDCOM, and I don't blame Legacy for the problems. The point I was trying to make is that it's possible to have citations that conform to EE standards by using Legacy's Basic Sources. Until SW sources can transfer without mangling, I'm going to stick to Basic Sourcing. Hope you're feeling better. It seems half the people I know have been sick with the flu recently. Mary *** From: Jackie King jskin...@gmail.com Mary - Sorry for how late this response is - I've been up and down with the flu so much in the past week or so that I hoped someone would point this out. What I think many fail to realize as they attempt to import and export sourcing via gedcoms is that gedcom itself does not support advanced sourcing such as some of that supported by Legacy and other programs and at times it also cannot support multiple sourcing. It's not a problem with Legacy - but with the Gedcom standard as it now is. Work is being done on what is called Gedcom X but I haven't kept up with it sufficiently to know if this is something that is being addressed or not. I think many times when we look at what happens to our databases in transferring through Gedcom we are blaming Legacy for things that are actually problems with Gedcom. And it is important to remember that Gedcom is not just a Legacy tool. Jackie On 2/15/2012 9:33 PM, Mary Moyer wrote: Chick I started converting my SW sources back to Basic about 6 months ago, mainly because I saw how mangled they are in transferring via GEDCOM to other programs. I've found it best to do it one source at a time. It's possible with Basic sources to figure out a way to match EE sources, but it takes a bit of forethought to do it. Since I have almost 2,000 sources (and, no, I'm not an extreme splitter) almost 50,000 citations, it's taking a lot of time, but I'm catching things I'd entered wrong when I first started, so it's worth it. Mary -- Original Message -- From: Chick Lewiscglewi...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import? Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:02:15 -0800 I have been following both these threads and have come to the conclusion that SourceWriter is not all it's cracked up to be. I stopped using SW several months ago and have been contemplating returning to Basic Sources. After following this discussion, I have decided to do that. I know most Legacy users are converting their Basic sources to SW. I am going to convert mine back to Basic. Any comments on how best to do that? Lew From: gambolgam...@juno.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Tue, February 14, 2012 6:19:34 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import? Paula, Thanks. We are sill on topic: getting the source and the text comment to appear together in the footnote/endnote.Ãâ Footnotes and Endnotes work the same, just a matter of where they appear and another one of those personal preferences.Ãâ I use both depending on how the report in used; when reviewing a cousins work it is easier to have the footnotes option on.. This way the notes appear on the same page as the event cited. I solved the import riddle with the help of Ward and others, but have not found a solution toÃâ subsequent citations not including the text notes. A good example would be the 1900 or 1910 census as a source for a persons name, birth year andÃâ state, and marriage year.Ãâ The first usage appears as it should with the text, but the two subsequent source citations only appear as the source with out the text. One for birth year and state and the other for marriage year; two identical entries.Ãâ Ãâ I the same source is used for a child, itÃâ would appear less the text even if other sources are cited in between. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?
Paula, That is a good approach and quite effective; in my local genealogy classes I emphasize that it is not so important how you document, but that you do and the important thing is for someone else to find the source and citation, using your notes. I may not previously mention, but I am the family historian for a 300 member family association and we are working on a hundred year of family register update. There is a lot of information exchange and the least effort that allows someone else finding the source citation is what is sought. Very little text is keep in the notes section as it is hard, for me at least, to remember, what I said about whom. Sometimes there are frustration, but in the end a lot of fun.Leonard On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:35:20 -0800 (PST) Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net writes: Leonard, If I am reading you correctly, I don't go so far as to indicate in the census detail citation which piece(s) of information are supported. I mean, I attach the detail citation to the pieces / fields that are supported, but I am not trying to print that out. I have the little source citation number next to the field in the report (I'm mostly using FGR these days) and the detail census citation on the source page at the end. For example, for a new sibling of one of my direct line ancestors, I would typically cite the census on the name and birth date/place fields, plus I would add a census event (I write all the other info in a narrative fashion in the Notes: She was 12 years old, and attended school that year.). I typically have other/more citations on the name and birth date/place for those in my direct line, so the census may have just been the starting point for the year and state. Definitely, the new siblings would have a date range based on the age and the census date (except 1900 where the month year of birth are given) and a state. I may or may not pursue more information on the siblings. Wow, got a bit wordy! Oh, if I were running a book report (ancestor, descendent), the citations do include the head of household, so that keeps them separate... not all lumped into one US 1900 Illinois Cook Co. citation, for example. (I don't lump further than county.) --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams Banks Forced to Forgive Credit Card Debt See how much of your debt could be settled! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f3d1d4fb720613001a5st02vuc Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?
On 2012/02/16 17:07, sarge1...@cox.net wrote: After using SW last year for a few of my newer entries, I went back and changed all to the Basic and have since used only the Basic. I had so much trouble in the GEDCOM area, that I lost faith in the SW - its a good program if you do not intend to share via GEDCOM, and I do hope Legacy does not abandon the Basic Source writer. SourceWriter should be likened to a proprietary format and as such is *never* going going to be GEDCOM-compliant and transfer between different programs. If you're going to use Legacy for anything other than data collection and storage, don't use SourceWriter. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?
Leonard, If I am reading you correctly, I don't go so far as to indicate in the census detail citation which piece(s) of information are supported. I mean, I attach the detail citation to the pieces / fields that are supported, but I am not trying to print that out. I have the little source citation number next to the field in the report (I'm mostly using FGR these days) and the detail census citation on the source page at the end. For example, for a new sibling of one of my direct line ancestors, I would typically cite the census on the name and birth date/place fields, plus I would add a census event (I write all the other info in a narrative fashion in the Notes: She was 12 years old, and attended school that year.). I typically have other/more citations on the name and birth date/place for those in my direct line, so the census may have just been the starting point for the year and state. Definitely, the new siblings would have a date range based on the age and the census date (except 1900 where the month year of birth are given) and a state. I may or may not pursue more information on the siblings. Wow, got a bit wordy! Oh, if I were running a book report (ancestor, descendent), the citations do include the head of household, so that keeps them separate... not all lumped into one US 1900 Illinois Cook Co. citation, for example. (I don't lump further than county.) --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: gambol gam...@juno.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Tue, February 14, 2012 6:19:34 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import? Paula, Thanks. We are sill on topic: getting the source and the text comment to appear together in the footnote/endnote. Footnotes and Endnotes work the same, just a matter of where they appear and another one of those personal preferences. I use both depending on how the report in used; when reviewing a cousins work it is easier to have the footnotes option on.. This way the notes appear on the same page as the event cited. I solved the import riddle with the help of Ward and others, but have not found a solution to subsequent citations not including the text notes. A good example would be the 1900 or 1910 census as a source for a persons name, birth year and state, and marriage year. The first usage appears as it should with the text, but the two subsequent source citations only appear as the source with out the text. One for birth year and state and the other for marriage year; two identical entries. I the same source is used for a child, it would appear less the text even if other sources are cited in between. How would the above citations appear on your end. I down loaded my deluxe version of Legacy and am operating on a Vista machine with SP2 and max memory. Leonard Researching: Middlebrooks [all 39+ variations], Fullerton, Burkett, Williams Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?
I have been following both these threads and have come to the conclusion that SourceWriter is not all it's cracked up to be. I stopped using SW several months ago and have been contemplating returning to Basic Sources. After following this discussion, I have decided to do that. I know most Legacy users are converting their Basic sources to SW. I am going to convert mine back to Basic. Any comments on how best to do that? Lew From: gambol gam...@juno.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Tue, February 14, 2012 6:19:34 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import? Paula, Thanks. We are sill on topic: getting the source and the text comment to appear together in the footnote/endnote. Footnotes and Endnotes work the same, just a matter of where they appear and another one of those personal preferences. I use both depending on how the report in used; when reviewing a cousins work it is easier to have the footnotes option on.. This way the notes appear on the same page as the event cited. I solved the import riddle with the help of Ward and others, but have not found a solution to subsequent citations not including the text notes. A good example would be the 1900 or 1910 census as a source for a persons name, birth year and state, and marriage year. The first usage appears as it should with the text, but the two subsequent source citations only appear as the source with out the text. One for birth year and state and the other for marriage year; two identical entries. I the same source is used for a child, it would appear less the text even if other sources are cited in between. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?
I just finished my portfolio for the Board for the Certification of Genealogists (BCG). During that process I found that my SW sources did not match the Evidence Explained formats exactly and instead of being able to copy and paste, I had to hand type them correctly. I am seriously thinking about going back to the Basic so that I can format the sources correctly but I have 745 sources with God only knows how many referenced to those sources. There are some sources that have over 400 entries. It would take me YEARS to get everything correct. michele -Original Message- From: Chick Lewis [mailto:cglewi...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:02 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import? I have been following both these threads and have come to the conclusion that SourceWriter is not all it's cracked up to be. I stopped using SW several months ago and have been contemplating returning to Basic Sources. After following this discussion, I have decided to do that. I know most Legacy users are converting their Basic sources to SW. I am going to convert mine back to Basic. Any comments on how best to do that? Lew From: gambol gam...@juno.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Tue, February 14, 2012 6:19:34 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import? Paula, Thanks. We are sill on topic: getting the source and the text comment to appear together in the footnote/endnote. Footnotes and Endnotes work the same, just a matter of where they appear and another one of those personal preferences. I use both depending on how the report in used; when reviewing a cousins work it is easier to have the footnotes option on.. This way the notes appear on the same page as the event cited. I solved the import riddle with the help of Ward and others, but have not found a solution to subsequent citations not including the text notes. A good example would be the 1900 or 1910 census as a source for a persons name, birth year and state, and marriage year. The first usage appears as it should with the text, but the two subsequent source citations only appear as the source with out the text. One for birth year and state and the other for marriage year; two identical entries. I the same source is used for a child, it would appear less the text even if other sources are cited in between. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2112/4811 - Release Date: 02/15/12 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import? / controlling subsequent citations
Can you share with us which source writer templates produced unsatisfactory citations? Surely, not all of them? And being these two threads are mainly about the subsequent citations - was that where the problems were? Thanks. --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: Michele Lewis cranberryf...@cobridge.tv To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wed, February 15, 2012 3:05:10 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import? I just finished my portfolio for the Board for the Certification of Genealogists (BCG). During that process I found that my SW sources did not match the Evidence Explained formats exactly and instead of being able to copy and paste, I had to hand type them correctly. I am seriously thinking about going back to the Basic so that I can format the sources correctly but I have 745 sources with God only knows how many referenced to those sources. There are some sources that have over 400 entries. It would take me YEARS to get everything correct. michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import? / controlling subsequent citations
It was little things on several different types of sources. I can’t remember exactly. I would look it up in the book and then look at how it was in Legacy and it wouldn’t match exactly. It wasn’t something glaring but small things. However, I wanted my sources to be 100% consistent and inline with the Evidence Explained book so I hand typed them. I do know that the subsequent citations didn’t match exactly either. And then there was a problem with non population scheduled because they don’t have templates for those anyways. I remember there was a problem with state censuses too. michele From: Paula Ryburn [mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:11 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import? / controlling subsequent citations Can you share with us which source writer templates produced unsatisfactory citations? Surely, not all of them? And being these two threads are mainly about the subsequent citations - was that where the problems were? Thanks. --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?
Chick I started converting my SW sources back to Basic about 6 months ago, mainly because I saw how mangled they are in transferring via GEDCOM to other programs. I've found it best to do it one source at a time. It's possible with Basic sources to figure out a way to match EE sources, but it takes a bit of forethought to do it. Since I have almost 2,000 sources (and, no, I'm not an extreme splitter) almost 50,000 citations, it's taking a lot of time, but I'm catching things I'd entered wrong when I first started, so it's worth it. Mary -- Original Message -- From: Chick Lewis cglewi...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import? Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:02:15 -0800 I have been following both these threads and have come to the conclusion that SourceWriter is not all it's cracked up to be. I stopped using SW several months ago and have been contemplating returning to Basic Sources. After following this discussion, I have decided to do that. I know most Legacy users are converting their Basic sources to SW. I am going to convert mine back to Basic. Any comments on how best to do that? Lew From: gambol gam...@juno.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Tue, February 14, 2012 6:19:34 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import? Paula, Thanks. We are sill on topic: getting the source and the text comment to appear together in the footnote/endnote. Footnotes and Endnotes work the same, just a matter of where they appear and another one of those personal preferences. I use both depending on how the report in used; when reviewing a cousins work it is easier to have the footnotes option on.. This way the notes appear on the same page as the event cited. I solved the import riddle with the help of Ward and others, but have not found a solution to subsequent citations not including the text notes. A good example would be the 1900 or 1910 census as a source for a persons name, birth year and state, and marriage year. The first usage appears as it should with the text, but the two subsequent source citations only appear as the source with out the text. One for birth year and state and the other for marriage year; two identical entries.  I the same source is used for a child, it would appear less the text even if other sources are cited in between. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?
Leonard, I may be off-base here, but when I add the person's name in either the Text or Comment field on the Source DETAIL and click the check box to include it, then it does print in the citation. For example, I was using the Ill. Death Index for a couple... same source master, same date accessed, etc., but each had their own name in the item field---actually, I realize that that is what makes them different. I am including the cert# in the Comment field, though, and checking the box to include that. So, maybe I am no help. I don't do footnotes, just endnotes. (and maybe our subject has changed?) --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: gambol gam...@juno.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Mon, February 13, 2012 6:51:07 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import? Ward, Yes this is similar. Your comments led me to the Options Customize Source tab Source Detail Defaults. I had the first three boxes checked and then discovered the Reset buttons cycle through each source and source text and list them as one line in the reports. This is exactly what I was looking for, it's a shave the program does not do this as default. My last huddle is to get Legacy to ignore its Subsequent Citations format as there are many times when a census is used as source for a persons' name, approximate birth year and birth state. The individual's name should appear under Legacy's Name Event, and the year, state would appear under the Birth Event. What is desirable is to have two footnotes with the same source info; one having the name as detail and the second having year, state as detail. Are you aware of an option that allows each footnote to appear with its own text? The truncation as it appears in the Subsequent Citations could happen any where in the footnote/endnote printout and the second, etc, usage could be for another person. This leads to confusion on the reader's part. Leonard Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?
Paula, Thanks. We are sill on topic: getting the source and the text comment to appear together in the footnote/endnote. Footnotes and Endnotes work the same, just a matter of where they appear and another one of those personal preferences. I use both depending on how the report in used; when reviewing a cousins work it is easier to have the footnotes option on.. This way the notes appear on the same page as the event cited. I solved the import riddle with the help of Ward and others, but have not found a solution to subsequent citations not including the text notes. A good example would be the 1900 or 1910 census as a source for a persons name, birth year and state, and marriage year. The first usage appears as it should with the text, but the two subsequent source citations only appear as the source with out the text. One for birth year and state and the other for marriage year; two identical entries. I the same source is used for a child, it would appear less the text even if other sources are cited in between. How would the above citations appear on your end. I down loaded my deluxe version of Legacy and am operating on a Vista machine with SP2 and max memory. Leonard Researching: Middlebrooks [all 39+ variations], Fullerton, Burkett, Williams On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:51:33 -0800 (PST) Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net writes: Leonard, I may be off-base here, but when I add the person's name in either the Text or Comment field on the Source DETAIL and click the check box to include it, then it does print in the citation. For example, I was using the Ill. Death Index for a couple... same source master, same date accessed, etc., but each had their own name in the item field---actually, I realize that that is what makes them different. I am including the cert# in the Comment field, though, and checking the box to include that. So, maybe I am no help. I don't do footnotes, just endnotes. (and maybe our subject has changed?) --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: gambol gam...@juno.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Mon, February 13, 2012 6:51:07 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import? ? Ward, Yes this is similar. Your comments led me to the Options Customize Source tab Source Detail Defaults. I had the first three boxes checked and then discovered the Reset buttons cycle through each source and source text and list them as one line in the reports. This is exactly what I was looking for, it's a shave the program does not do this as default. My last huddle is to get Legacy to ignore its Subsequent Citations format as there are many times when a census is used as source for a persons' name, approximate birth year and birth state. The individual's name should appear under Legacy's Name Event, and the year, state would appear under the Birth Event. What is desirable is to have two footnotes with the same source info; one having the name as detail and the second having year, state as detail. Are you aware of an option that allows each footnote to appear with its own text? The truncation as it appears in the Subsequent Citations could happen any where in the footnote/endnote printout and the second, etc, usage could be for another person. This leads to confusion on the reader's part. Leonard 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f3afa704da8bed8cafst04vuc Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?
Ward, Yes this is similar. Your comments led me to the Options Customize Source tab Source Detail Defaults. I had the first three boxes checked and then discovered the Reset buttons cycle through each source and source text and list them as one line in the reports. This is exactly what I was looking for, it's a shave the program does not do this as default. My last huddle is to get Legacy to ignore its Subsequent Citations format as there are many times when a census is used as source for a persons' name, approximate birth year and birth state. The individual's name should appear under Legacy's Name Event, and the year, state would appear under the Birth Event. What is desirable is to have two footnotes with the same source info; one having the name as detail and the second having year, state as detail. Are you aware of an option that allows each footnote to appear with its own text? The truncation as it appears in the Subsequent Citations could happen any where in the footnote/endnote printout and the second, etc, usage could be for another person. This leads to confusion on the reader's part. Leonard On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:37:34 -0500 Ward Walker wnkwal...@rogers.com writes: I logged a bug in June, 2010 (ticket [04A-13A13DF1-6EE4]) that sounds very similar to this, if I understand correctly. In my case, I was testing the export from Legacy and then re-import to Legacy. The source database has a mixture of Basic and SourceWriter sources. 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f39b03331065e3df63st03vuc Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?
Leonard, The answer to your question posed in para. 2, re. same source but different detail. is that it doesn’t exist. With respect to this and your other suggestions, they would have to be made options, ie. users’ choice, as I, and probably many other users, would not agree with them. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ From: gambol Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 12:51 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import? Ward, Yes this is similar. Your comments led me to the Options Customize Source tab Source Detail Defaults. I had the first three boxes checked and then discovered the Reset buttons cycle through each source and source text and list them as one line in the reports. This is exactly what I was looking for, it's a shave the program does not do this as default. My last huddle is to get Legacy to ignore its Subsequent Citations format as there are many times when a census is used as source for a persons' name, approximate birth year and birth state. The individual's name should appear under Legacy's Name Event, and the year, state would appear under the Birth Event. What is desirable is to have two footnotes with the same source info; one having the name as detail and the second having year, state as detail. Are you aware of an option that allows each footnote to appear with its own text? The truncation as it appears in the Subsequent Citations could happen any where in the footnote/endnote printout and the second, etc, usage could be for another person. This leads to confusion on the reader's part. Leonard On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:37:34 -0500 Ward Walker wnkwal...@rogers.com writes: I logged a bug in June, 2010 (ticket [04A-13A13DF1-6EE4]) that sounds very similar to this, if I understand correctly. In my case, I was testing the export from Legacy and then re-import to Legacy. The source database has a mixture of Basic and SourceWriter sources. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?
Leonard, Am I correct in thinking that FTM16 has a template system for its sources similar to Legacy’s Source Writer? If so the problem is that a GEDCOM does not recognise the layout – it is the same with the Legacy version. I suspect that the best you can hope for is some sort of Basic Sourcing. Maybe there is someone who has transferred similar files who can advise you, but I cannot think of an easy way round the problem From: gambol Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 5:29 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import? When I import a GEDCOM file from Family Tree Maker v16, the FTM source Citation Page and Citation Text fields do not property appear in the footnote/endnote when generating a Legacy v7.5 narrative report. In Legacy's Show List of Assigned Sources, the page and text information does appear under the Text/Comment tab and in the Source Detail Text and Detail Comments fields, but does not under the Output tab. The result is when viewing a narrative report, the footnote/endnote appears with only the Source List Name. The Detail Text information does not, which of course is needed to located the detail information within the source. An example of one of my FTM file census citations: Census, 1900 CT, New Haven Co, Waterbury Township, District 418, p.8, date, state. In Legacy's narrative report only the source, Census, 1900 CT, appears. MY work-around is to copy the Detail Text to the Source Detail field on a source citation by source citation basis. This is acceptable for a small file, but not for my family file with 40,000 + individuals; each with an average of three source citations per person. Is there an option I am missing, or is this an anomaly with FTM's GEDCOM file generation algorithm. Is there help? Leonard Middlebrooks Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?
Paul and Ron, FTM v16 uses a straight forward two screen templet similar to Legacy's basic source approach. V16 was discontinued in 2008 when Ancestry tried to invent the wheel, but there is little difference between the two programs when selecting an existing source or adding/creating a new source. From FTM v16 to Legacy this part works as it should. Both FTM and Legacy require knowledge of correct source format. When a source citation is entered from scratch, and not from a GEDCOM, the check boxes under the text and comments add this text to the source citation work and the source and citation information appear as they should in the printed reports. Paul, your comment leads me to believe that Legacy does not automatically populate these text/comment boxes when importing a GEDCOM file. It could be that FTM does not keep the data in a correctly named GEDCOM field. Interestingly, there were not GEDCOM errors noted. Leonard On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:56:22 -0700 Paul Gray grayp...@telus.net writes: I can't really comment on the data transfer between FTM and Legacy. But, if I understand you correctly, the missing information is on the edit source detail screen, under the text and/or comments tab. Have you checked, under the text and comments boxes, the add this text to the source citation boxes? Paul Gray From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: February-12-12 12:35 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import? Leonard, Am I correct in thinking that FTM16 has a template system for its sources similar to Legacy’s Source Writer? If so the problem is that a GEDCOM does not recognise the layout – it is the same with the Legacy version. I suspect that the best you can hope for is some sort of Basic Sourcing. Maybe there is someone who has transferred similar files who can advise you, but I cannot think of an easy way round the problem From: gambol Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 5:29 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import? When I import a GEDCOM file from Family Tree Maker v16, the FTM source Citation Page and Citation Text fields do not property appear in the footnote/endnote when generating a Legacy v7.5 narrative report. In Legacy's Show List of Assigned Sources, the page and text information does appear under the Text/Comment tab and in the Source Detail Text and Detail Comments fields, but does not under the Output tab. The result is when viewing a narrative report, the footnote/endnote appears with only the Source List Name. The Detail Text information does not, which of course is needed to located the detail information within the source. An example of one of my FTM file census citations: Census, 1900 CT, New Haven Co, Waterbury Township, District 418, p.8, date, state. In Legacy's narrative report only the source, Census, 1900 CT, appears. MY work-around is to copy the Detail Text to the Source Detail field on a source citation by source citation basis. This is acceptable for a small file, but not for my family file with 40,000 + individuals; each with an average of three source citations per person. Is there an option I am missing, or is this an anomaly with FTM's GEDCOM file generation algorithm. Is there help? Leonard Middlebrooks 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f38274d4f5cc10b1176st02vuc Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?
Hi again, Trying to understand exactly what the import has done. Is your Master Source in Legacy just -- Census, 1900 CT? And, is this consistent with the FTM equivalent of Master Source, or is your FTM master source at a lower level e.g. including county, township, district? Is there any information in source detail at all, or is all of the detail in text and or comments? I am trying to get at whether the information in Legacy is in the same spot as it would be if you were inputting it from scratch. I suspect not, as the information you are copying from the detail text to source detail seems like it should have been in source detail all along. So, is the real issue (ignoring for now the cause) that Legacy ends up with what should be in source detail in the source detail text field. Paul Gray -Original Message- From: gambol [mailto:gam...@juno.com] Sent: February-12-12 1:55 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import? Paul and Ron, FTM v16 uses a straight forward two screen templet similar to Legacy's basic source approach. V16 was discontinued in 2008 when Ancestry tried to invent the wheel, but there is little difference between the two programs when selecting an existing source or adding/creating a new source. From FTM v16 to Legacy this part works as it should. Both FTM and Legacy require knowledge of correct source format. When a source citation is entered from scratch, and not from a GEDCOM, the check boxes under the text and comments add this text to the source citation work and the source and citation information appear as they should in the printed reports. Paul, your comment leads me to believe that Legacy does not automatically populate these text/comment boxes when importing a GEDCOM file. It could be that FTM does not keep the data in a correctly named GEDCOM field. Interestingly, there were not GEDCOM errors noted. Leonard On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:56:22 -0700 Paul Gray grayp...@telus.net writes: I can't really comment on the data transfer between FTM and Legacy. But, if I understand you correctly, the missing information is on the edit source detail screen, under the text and/or comments tab. Have you checked, under the text and comments boxes, the add this text to the source citation boxes? Paul Gray From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: February-12-12 12:35 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import? Leonard, Am I correct in thinking that FTM16 has a template system for its sources similar to Legacy’s Source Writer? If so the problem is that a GEDCOM does not recognise the layout – it is the same with the Legacy version. I suspect that the best you can hope for is some sort of Basic Sourcing. Maybe there is someone who has transferred similar files who can advise you, but I cannot think of an easy way round the problem From: gambol Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 5:29 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import? When I import a GEDCOM file from Family Tree Maker v16, the FTM source Citation Page and Citation Text fields do not property appear in the footnote/endnote when generating a Legacy v7.5 narrative report. In Legacy's Show List of Assigned Sources, the page and text information does appear under the Text/Comment tab and in the Source Detail Text and Detail Comments fields, but does not under the Output tab. The result is when viewing a narrative report, the footnote/endnote appears with only the Source List Name. The Detail Text information does not, which of course is needed to located the detail information within the source. An example of one of my FTM file census citations: Census, 1900 CT, New Haven Co, Waterbury Township, District 418, p.8, date, state. In Legacy's narrative report only the source, Census, 1900 CT, appears. MY work-around is to copy the Detail Text to the Source Detail field on a source citation by source citation basis. This is acceptable for a small file, but not for my family file with 40,000 + individuals; each with an average of three source citations per person. Is there an option I am missing, or is this an anomaly with FTM's GEDCOM file generation algorithm. Is there help? Leonard Middlebrooks 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f38274d4f5cc10b1176st02vuc Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?
Leonard, I am a previous user of FTM16 (and still do a gedcom backwards to the program for various charts, etc that Legacy does not do). My sources transferred correctly without any problems. All fields of the source transferred correctly to Legacy from the FTM16 gedcom. Did you use the following gedcom options when exporting the file? Destination:FTW Gedcom: 5.5 Character set: Ansi Abbreviated tags check marked On 2/12/2012 2:54 PM, gambol wrote: Paul and Ron, FTM v16 uses a straight forward two screen templet similar to Legacy's basic source approach. V16 was discontinued in 2008 when Ancestry tried to invent the wheel, but there is little difference between the two programs when selecting an existing source or adding/creating a new source. From FTM v16 to Legacy this part works as it should. Both FTM and Legacy require knowledge of correct source format. When a source citation is entered from scratch, and not from a GEDCOM, the check boxes under the text and comments add this text to the source citation work and the source and citation information appear as they should in the printed reports. Paul, your comment leads me to believe that Legacy does not automatically populate these text/comment boxes when importing a GEDCOM file. It could be that FTM does not keep the data in a correctly named GEDCOM field. Interestingly, there were not GEDCOM errors noted. Leonard On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:56:22 -0700 Paul Graygrayp...@telus.net writes: I can't really comment on the data transfer between FTM and Legacy. But, if I understand you correctly, the missing information is on the edit source detail screen, under the text and/or comments tab. Have you checked, under the text and comments boxes, the add this text to the source citation boxes? Paul Gray From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: February-12-12 12:35 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import? Leonard, Am I correct in thinking that FTM16 has a template system for its sources similar to Legacy’s Source Writer? If so the problem is that a GEDCOM does not recognise the layout – it is the same with the Legacy version. I suspect that the best you can hope for is some sort of Basic Sourcing. Maybe there is someone who has transferred similar files who can advise you, but I cannot think of an easy way round the problem From: gambol Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 5:29 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import? When I import a GEDCOM file from Family Tree Maker v16, the FTM source Citation Page and Citation Text fields do not property appear in the footnote/endnote when generating a Legacy v7.5 narrative report. In Legacy's Show List of Assigned Sources, the page and text information does appear under the Text/Comment tab and in the Source Detail Text and Detail Comments fields, but does not under the Output tab. The result is when viewing a narrative report, the footnote/endnote appears with only the Source List Name. The Detail Text information does not, which of course is needed to located the detail information within the source. An example of one of my FTM file census citations: Census, 1900 CT, New Haven Co, Waterbury Township, District 418, p.8, date, state. In Legacy's narrative report only the source, Census, 1900 CT, appears. MY work-around is to copy the Detail Text to the Source Detail field on a source citation by source citation basis. This is acceptable for a small file, but not for my family file with 40,000 + individuals; each with an average of three source citations per person. Is there an option I am missing, or is this an anomaly with FTM's GEDCOM file generation algorithm. Is there help? Leonard Middlebrooks 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f38274d4f5cc10b1176st02vuc Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?
I logged a bug in June, 2010 (ticket [04A-13A13DF1-6EE4]) that sounds very similar to this, if I understand correctly. In my case, I was testing the export from Legacy and then re-import to Legacy. The source database has a mixture of Basic and SourceWriter sources. The problem was with the checkbox that says Add this Detail to the Source Citation on Reports. This is an option in Legacy for Basic sources, and the export and re-import work fine when checked. However, there is no such user option for individual SourceWriter sources. (Yes, there is for the Text/Comments tab, but not for the source details tab.) For SW sources, any populated source detail fields are critical and such an option would make no sense. The bug was that the import, which can only create Basic style sources, did not automatically turn on this flag for those sources that had originated as SourceWriter sources, and thus those sources had incomplete citations in the target database. Setting the global default in Options Customize Sources is also not the answer, since this would mess up any Basic sources for which you don't want the source detail text included. My workaround, in fact, was to revisit as many of my Basic sources as possible and remove any text from the Source Detail field that I didn't want to see on the citations. Then I could at least set the global default. Does this sound like the same bug? Of course, mashing a SourceWriter style of source (or the equivalent in another system) into a Basic source will still garble the order of the contents of the citation, even if all the information is present. The extent of the garbling depends on the template. But at least the content should be present! Ward - Original Message - From: Laura Johnson rngad...@madisontelco.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import? Leonard, I am a previous user of FTM16 (and still do a gedcom backwards to the program for various charts, etc that Legacy does not do). My sources transferred correctly without any problems. All fields of the source transferred correctly to Legacy from the FTM16 gedcom. Did you use the following gedcom options when exporting the file? Destination:FTW Gedcom: 5.5 Character set: Ansi Abbreviated tags check marked On 2/12/2012 2:54 PM, gambol wrote: Paul and Ron, FTM v16 uses a straight forward two screen templet similar to Legacy's basic source approach. V16 was discontinued in 2008 when Ancestry tried to invent the wheel, but there is little difference between the two programs when selecting an existing source or adding/creating a new source. From FTM v16 to Legacy this part works as it should. Both FTM and Legacy require knowledge of correct source format. When a source citation is entered from scratch, and not from a GEDCOM, the check boxes under the text and comments add this text to the source citation work and the source and citation information appear as they should in the printed reports. Paul, your comment leads me to believe that Legacy does not automatically populate these text/comment boxes when importing a GEDCOM file. It could be that FTM does not keep the data in a correctly named GEDCOM field. Interestingly, there were not GEDCOM errors noted. Leonard On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:56:22 -0700 Paul Graygrayp...@telus.net writes: I can't really comment on the data transfer between FTM and Legacy. But, if I understand you correctly, the missing information is on the edit source detail screen, under the text and/or comments tab. Have you checked, under the text and comments boxes, the add this text to the source citation boxes? Paul Gray From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: February-12-12 12:35 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import? Leonard, Am I correct in thinking that FTM16 has a template system for its sources similar to Legacy’s Source Writer? If so the problem is that a GEDCOM does not recognise the layout – it is the same with the Legacy version. I suspect that the best you can hope for is some sort of Basic Sourcing. Maybe there is someone who has transferred similar files who can advise you, but I cannot think of an easy way round the problem From: gambol Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 5:29 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import? When I import a GEDCOM file from Family Tree Maker v16, the FTM source Citation Page and Citation Text fields do not property appear in the footnote/endnote when generating a Legacy v7.5 narrative report. In Legacy's Show List of Assigned Sources, the page and text information does appear under the Text/Comment tab and in the Source Detail Text and Detail Comments fields, but does not under the Output tab. The result is when viewing
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?
Laura, Yes, The information is carried forward from FTM to Legacy and appears in the . It seems that the check boxes, Assigned Sources Edit Detail Tag/Comments, are not auto populated. In my example only the source name appears in the narrative report. If the check boxes are selected, the source name and detail appear. I purchased Legacy v7.5 Deluxe upgrade and opted for the download verses the CD and so far all other functions work perfectly. On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 16:22:43 -0600 Laura Johnson rngad...@madisontelco.com writes: Leonard, I am a previous user of FTM16 (and still do a gedcom backwards to the program for various charts, etc that Legacy does not do). All fields of the source transferred correctly to Legacy from the FTM16 gedcom. Did you use the following gedcom options when exporting the file? Destination:FTW Gedcom: 5.5 Character set: Ansi Abbreviated tags check marked Get Free Email with Video Mail Video Chat! http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
