Re: [LegacyUG] married someone
Hi Judy, First make sure that the didn't marry box is ticked in the Marriage Information screen. Then look at the wording options and enter whatever you like. Cathy Judy Weber wrote: > How do I get rid of the phrase “Kathleen ( or other name) married > someone†in my descendant report? The fact is that Kathleen never > married anyone, but she did have a child out of wedlock. No name for a > father has presented itself to date. > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] married someone
How do I get rid of the phrase "Kathleen ( or other name) married someone" in my descendant report? The fact is that Kathleen never married anyone, but she did have a child out of wedlock. No name for a father has presented itself to date. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
Except per recent posts the problem is till there in 7.4. -Original Message- >From: Ron Ferguson >Sent: May 21, 2010 5:54 AM >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' > >Marianne, > >If you use an outdated version we cannot help you with your problems. Dave >has had a blitz on bugs over the past month or so resolving issues. I am >afraid that unless you update you will have to find your own solutions, as >we cannot reolve bugs, only report them. When Dave resolves them the job is >done. There are very few bugs left in the current version and you have those >few already. > >Ron Ferguson >_ > >*New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth >http://www.fergys.co.uk >Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw >And the Fergusons of N.W. England > > > >mbstx wrote: >> The data were entered over time so I don't recall what I did for each >> instance, but this is how I generally do it. >> >> Enter couple: John Jones and Mary Smith >> Add children: James, Sally, etc. >> If any info [generally a surname] about spouses of children is known >> [from obits, etc.] attach that spouse to the child and enter that >> info leave other field [for given name] blank: Sally married [unknown >> given name, so I leave it blank] Parker >> When I find the missing information, go to the spouse's data block in >> the Family view and enter the new info [generally the given name]: >> [blank] Parker becomes Thedore Parker. >> >> In the Descendant Narrative report I get "Sally married someone >> Theodore Parker." >> >> I also just checked, and there are no "unknown" spouses in the >> "husband/wife of" icon in the various persons data block. >> >> I'm running 7.0.0.109 [no I haven't updated to 7.4 because of issues >> that keep coming up], on Windows XP. Marianne >> >> -Original Message- >>> From: Ron Ferguson >>> Sent: May 20, 2010 9:39 AM >>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' >>> >>> How did you add the new partner? The method used is critical - see >>> previous posts in this thread. >>> >>> Ron Ferguson >>> _ >>> >>> *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth >>> http://www.fergys.co.uk >>> Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw >>> And the Fergusons of N.W. England >>> >>> >>> >>> mbstx wrote: >>>> I have the same problem in a report I just generated. What I don't >>>> understand is when there is a blank for the given name or surname, >>>> but I know the other, and later I add the new information into the >>>> same person's data fields, why would there still be an unknown? >>>> Marianne >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: Ron Ferguson >>>>> Sent: May 20, 2010 2:41 AM >>>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >>>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' >>>>> >>>>> I have a multitude of unknown spouses, which I wish to leave as >>>>> blank. V7 now seems to be able to do this, although I have found an >>>>> odd instance where "unknown" still appears, and have yet to work >>>>> out why. >>>>> >>>>> I hope that I misunderstand when you say "There needs to be a >>>>> string that automatically removes the "someone" when an actual >>>>> name is entered". How is a machine expected to know whether or not >>>>> the unknown should be replaced, it could be a totally different >>>>> relationship. >>>>> >>>>> Ron Ferguson >>>>> _ >>>>> >>>>> *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth >>>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk >>>>> Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw >>>>> And the Fergusons of N.W. England >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> CE Wood wrote: >>>>>> I think she is asking why the program doesn't
Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
Marianne, If you use an outdated version we cannot help you with your problems. Dave has had a blitz on bugs over the past month or so resolving issues. I am afraid that unless you update you will have to find your own solutions, as we cannot reolve bugs, only report them. When Dave resolves them the job is done. There are very few bugs left in the current version and you have those few already. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England mbstx wrote: > The data were entered over time so I don't recall what I did for each > instance, but this is how I generally do it. > > Enter couple: John Jones and Mary Smith > Add children: James, Sally, etc. > If any info [generally a surname] about spouses of children is known > [from obits, etc.] attach that spouse to the child and enter that > info leave other field [for given name] blank: Sally married [unknown > given name, so I leave it blank] Parker > When I find the missing information, go to the spouse's data block in > the Family view and enter the new info [generally the given name]: > [blank] Parker becomes Thedore Parker. > > In the Descendant Narrative report I get "Sally married someone > Theodore Parker." > > I also just checked, and there are no "unknown" spouses in the > "husband/wife of" icon in the various persons data block. > > I'm running 7.0.0.109 [no I haven't updated to 7.4 because of issues > that keep coming up], on Windows XP. Marianne > > -Original Message- >> From: Ron Ferguson >> Sent: May 20, 2010 9:39 AM >> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' >> >> How did you add the new partner? The method used is critical - see >> previous posts in this thread. >> >> Ron Ferguson >> _ >> >> *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth >> http://www.fergys.co.uk >> Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw >> And the Fergusons of N.W. England >> >> >> >> mbstx wrote: >>> I have the same problem in a report I just generated. What I don't >>> understand is when there is a blank for the given name or surname, >>> but I know the other, and later I add the new information into the >>> same person's data fields, why would there still be an unknown? >>> Marianne >>> >>> -Original Message- >>>> From: Ron Ferguson >>>> Sent: May 20, 2010 2:41 AM >>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' >>>> >>>> I have a multitude of unknown spouses, which I wish to leave as >>>> blank. V7 now seems to be able to do this, although I have found an >>>> odd instance where "unknown" still appears, and have yet to work >>>> out why. >>>> >>>> I hope that I misunderstand when you say "There needs to be a >>>> string that automatically removes the "someone" when an actual >>>> name is entered". How is a machine expected to know whether or not >>>> the unknown should be replaced, it could be a totally different >>>> relationship. >>>> >>>> Ron Ferguson >>>> _ >>>> >>>> *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth >>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk >>>> Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw >>>> And the Fergusons of N.W. England >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> CE Wood wrote: >>>>> I think she is asking why the program doesn't correct its mistake. >>>>> As one gathers more information, there will always be spouses >>>>> discovered. There needs to be a string that automatically removes >>>>> the "someone" when an actual name is entered. >>>>> >>>>> Correcting one marriage is not the issue. Correcting them ALL is >>>>> ridiculous. >>>>> >>>>> Legacy did say this error had been fixed. I guess not, huh? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> CE >>>>> >>>>> >>&g
Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
Jack Earnshaw wrote >I just checked this and the problem is still there in 7.4.0.39. Below >is an extract from a report I just ran > >14. Marjorie Best (Alfred John 2, Samuel John 1) was born on 28 Jun >1912 in Exmouth, Devon, England and died in Jul 1988 in Exeter, Devon, >England aged 76. Marjorie married someone Henry H "Harry" Crane Mar Q >1948 in Devon Central, England I really *don't* think you're dumb, but have you checked the "Husbands of ..." screen for Marjorie, JUST IN CASE you haven't actually deleted/overwritten the Unkown person? I only ask because when I was playing around with this problem I found I kept getting a result like you but when I checked it turned out I hadn't deleted an Unknown which I was sure I had done! When the Unknown doesn't have any details entered, it's easy not to notice they are there. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
Glad to see it is not only me! But - I am using 7.4.0.39. Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Connie Sheets [mailto:clshee...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, 21 May 2010 2:18 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' Marianne, If you are using 7.0.0.109, that likely explains your problem. This issue was fixed in a subsequent update. While I tend to wait a week or two before downloading an update, there is no reason I can think of to avoid downloading and using the current edition of Legacy (unless you're one of those people who want to stick with Legacy 6.0). You can turn off the newFamilySearch features of 7.4 if you want (which I recommend if you are not LDS), and you are left with the version you have now, except that several bugs like this one have been fixed. Connie --- On Thu, 5/20/10, mbstx wrote: > In the Descendant Narrative report I get "Sally married > someone Theodore Parker." > > I also just checked, and there are no "unknown" spouses in > the "husband/wife of" icon in the various persons data > block. > > I'm running 7.0.0.109 [no I haven't updated to 7.4 because > of issues that keep coming up], on Windows > XP.���Marianne > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
To be honest, I can't remember. My usual practice is to enter 'Unknown UNKNOWN' when I know from other evidence that a marriage existed, but I don't know the name of the spouse. If I then determine the name I simply change unknown to the correct name - not really any different to changing a spelling error. And because I have entered 'Unknown UNKNOWN' (which for all the computer knows is a real name) I should never get Fred married someone. However, on reviewing my sources etc. this morning for this particular case (and the superfluous someone is still there in a report newly created this morning, after a complete shutdown overnight) I believe this particular marriage would have been entered WITHOUT an unknown spouse at any stage i.e. the spouse has never been unknown. So the mystery really deepens. I have tried creating the report for Screen/Printer; pdf and rtf. The someone appears in every case. It appears even when the starting person is different - but seemingly only for this couple. I am producing quite a few reports at the moment and haven't found it happening anywhere else. I tried what Jennifer suggested re unlinking the couple and relinking to no effect. I think I'll call it 'just one of those things' and move on. Thanks for trying to help, everyone. Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 23:39 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' How did you add the new partner? The method used is critical - see previous posts in this thread. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England mbstx wrote: > I have the same problem in a report I just generated. What I don't > understand is when there is a blank for the given name or surname, > but I know the other, and later I add the new information into the > same person's data fields, why would there still be an unknown? > Marianne > > -Original Message- >> From: Ron Ferguson >> Sent: May 20, 2010 2:41 AM >> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' >> >> I have a multitude of unknown spouses, which I wish to leave as >> blank. V7 now seems to be able to do this, although I have found an >> odd instance where "unknown" still appears, and have yet to work out >> why. >> >> I hope that I misunderstand when you say "There needs to be a string >> that automatically removes the "someone" when an actual name is >> entered". How is a machine expected to know whether or not the >> unknown should be replaced, it could be a totally different >> relationship. >> >> Ron Ferguson >> _ >> >> *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth >> http://www.fergys.co.uk >> Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw >> And the Fergusons of N.W. England >> >> >> >> CE Wood wrote: >>> I think she is asking why the program doesn't correct its mistake. >>> As one gathers more information, there will always be spouses >>> discovered. There needs to be a string that automatically removes >>> the "someone" when an actual name is entered. >>> >>> Correcting one marriage is not the issue. Correcting them ALL is >>> ridiculous. >>> >>> Legacy did say this error had been fixed. I guess not, huh? >>> >>> >>> CE >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Jennifer Crockett [mailto:jcrock...@optusnet.com.au] >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:30 PM >>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' >>> >>> I once had this happen to me. What I finally came up with to fix it >>> was to unlink the couple and then re-link them. I did this using the >>> Marriage List. >>> >>> Jennifer >>> >>> >>> From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] >>> Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 9:18 AM >>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com >>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' >>> >>> I have just been reading through a report I created yesterday (after >>> having converted pdf to doc, edited – or so I thought – resaved
RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
I just checked this and the problem is still there in 7.4.0.39. Below is an extract from a report I just ran 14. Marjorie Best (Alfred John 2, Samuel John 1) was born on 28 Jun 1912 in Exmouth, Devon, England and died in Jul 1988 in Exeter, Devon, England aged 76. Marjorie married someone Henry H "Harry" Crane Mar Q 1948 in Devon Central, England When this came up before I think it was suggested the problem might be caused by putting the marriage date in before adding the details of the spouse, but I've not checked this out Jack -Original Message- From: CE Wood [mailto:wood...@msn.com] Sent: 20 May 2010 17:27 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' And my response was that this error was reported by Legacy as having been fixed: Legacy 7.4 Revision History: 30 January 2010 Build - Fixed Items - Marriage Screen Phrases - Changed some of the rules for when "married someone" is used. 12 March 201 Build - Marriage Phrase for reports - Customized wording was reverting back to the default phrase. Fixed. As to Ron's reference to a machine knowing, the program knows when a "box" is blank, as in searches. A command can be written that removes the word "someone" whenever a spouse is entered into that "box." Whether the letters constitute a new name or an existing one is irrelevant. The "box" is no longer blank. Carolyn -Original Message- From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:00 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' And my original question was - why, now that I have added the name of the previously unknown parent - do I get 'Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN' when I create a Descendant Narrative report? The word 'someone' is now superfluous. I would expect Legacy to use only the name I have entered. Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 20:06 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' Ron Ferguson wrote >The point which I was trying to make, obviously not very well, was that >these selection processes, where we have the option of adding a new >spouse *or* replacing an unknown must remain. Oh heavens, yes! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2868 - Release Date: 05/19/10 11:26:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2879 - Release Date: 05/20/10 07:26:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
See my later posts, that is not what I said, nor what I meant. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England CE Wood wrote: > And my response was that this error was reported by Legacy as having > been fixed: > > Legacy 7.4 Revision History: > 30 January 2010 Build - Fixed Items - Marriage Screen Phrases - > Changed some of the rules for when "married someone" is used. > 12 March 201 Build - Marriage Phrase for reports - Customized > wording was reverting back to the default phrase. Fixed. > > As to Ron's reference to a machine knowing, the program knows when a > "box" is blank, as in searches. A command can be written that > removes the word "someone" whenever a spouse is entered into that > "box." Whether the letters constitute a new name or an existing one > is irrelevant. The "box" is no longer blank. > > Carolyn > > > -Original Message- > From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:00 AM > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' > > And my original question was - why, now that I have added the name of > the previously unknown parent - do I get 'Fred married someone Mary > Jane BROWN' when I create a Descendant Narrative report? The word > 'someone' is now superfluous. I would expect Legacy to use only the > name I have entered. > > Cheers > Jan > -Original Message- > From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] > Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 20:06 > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' > > Ron Ferguson wrote >> The point which I was trying to make, obviously not very well, was >> that these selection processes, where we have the option of adding a >> new spouse *or* replacing an unknown must remain. > > Oh heavens, yes! Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
And my response was that this error was reported by Legacy as having been fixed: Legacy 7.4 Revision History: 30 January 2010 Build - Fixed Items - Marriage Screen Phrases - Changed some of the rules for when "married someone" is used. 12 March 201 Build - Marriage Phrase for reports - Customized wording was reverting back to the default phrase. Fixed. As to Ron's reference to a machine knowing, the program knows when a "box" is blank, as in searches. A command can be written that removes the word "someone" whenever a spouse is entered into that "box." Whether the letters constitute a new name or an existing one is irrelevant. The "box" is no longer blank. Carolyn -Original Message- From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:00 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' And my original question was - why, now that I have added the name of the previously unknown parent - do I get 'Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN' when I create a Descendant Narrative report? The word 'someone' is now superfluous. I would expect Legacy to use only the name I have entered. Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 20:06 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' Ron Ferguson wrote >The point which I was trying to make, obviously not very well, was that >these selection processes, where we have the option of adding a new >spouse *or* replacing an unknown must remain. Oh heavens, yes! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2868 - Release Date: 05/19/10 11:26:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
Marianne, If you are using 7.0.0.109, that likely explains your problem. This issue was fixed in a subsequent update. While I tend to wait a week or two before downloading an update, there is no reason I can think of to avoid downloading and using the current edition of Legacy (unless you're one of those people who want to stick with Legacy 6.0). You can turn off the newFamilySearch features of 7.4 if you want (which I recommend if you are not LDS), and you are left with the version you have now, except that several bugs like this one have been fixed. Connie --- On Thu, 5/20/10, mbstx wrote: > In the Descendant Narrative report I get "Sally married > someone Theodore Parker." > > I also just checked, and there are no "unknown" spouses in > the "husband/wife of" icon in the various persons data > block. > > I'm running 7.0.0.109 [no I haven't updated to 7.4 because > of issues that keep coming up], on Windows > XP. Marianne > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
The data were entered over time so I don't recall what I did for each instance, but this is how I generally do it. Enter couple: John Jones and Mary Smith Add children: James, Sally, etc. If any info [generally a surname] about spouses of children is known [from obits, etc.] attach that spouse to the child and enter that info leave other field [for given name] blank: Sally married [unknown given name, so I leave it blank] Parker When I find the missing information, go to the spouse's data block in the Family view and enter the new info [generally the given name]: [blank] Parker becomes Thedore Parker. In the Descendant Narrative report I get "Sally married someone Theodore Parker." I also just checked, and there are no "unknown" spouses in the "husband/wife of" icon in the various persons data block. I'm running 7.0.0.109 [no I haven't updated to 7.4 because of issues that keep coming up], on Windows XP. Marianne -Original Message- >From: Ron Ferguson >Sent: May 20, 2010 9:39 AM >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' > >How did you add the new partner? The method used is critical - see previous >posts in this thread. > >Ron Ferguson >_ > >*New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth >http://www.fergys.co.uk >Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw >And the Fergusons of N.W. England > > > >mbstx wrote: >> I have the same problem in a report I just generated. What I don't >> understand is when there is a blank for the given name or surname, >> but I know the other, and later I add the new information into the >> same person's data fields, why would there still be an unknown? >> Marianne >> >> -Original Message- >>> From: Ron Ferguson >>> Sent: May 20, 2010 2:41 AM >>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' >>> >>> I have a multitude of unknown spouses, which I wish to leave as >>> blank. V7 now seems to be able to do this, although I have found an >>> odd instance where "unknown" still appears, and have yet to work out >>> why. >>> >>> I hope that I misunderstand when you say "There needs to be a string >>> that automatically removes the "someone" when an actual name is >>> entered". How is a machine expected to know whether or not the >>> unknown should be replaced, it could be a totally different >>> relationship. >>> >>> Ron Ferguson >>> _ >>> >>> *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth >>> http://www.fergys.co.uk >>> Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw >>> And the Fergusons of N.W. England >>> >>> >>> >>> CE Wood wrote: >>>> I think she is asking why the program doesn't correct its mistake. >>>> As one gathers more information, there will always be spouses >>>> discovered. There needs to be a string that automatically removes >>>> the "someone" when an actual name is entered. >>>> >>>> Correcting one marriage is not the issue. Correcting them ALL is >>>> ridiculous. >>>> >>>> Legacy did say this error had been fixed. I guess not, huh? >>>> >>>> >>>> CE >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: Jennifer Crockett [mailto:jcrock...@optusnet.com.au] >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:30 PM >>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >>>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' >>>> >>>> I once had this happen to me. What I finally came up with to fix it >>>> was to unlink the couple and then re-link them. I did this using the >>>> Marriage List. >>>> >>>> Jennifer >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] >>>> Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 9:18 AM >>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com >>>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' >>>> >>>> I have just been reading through a report I created yesterday (after >>>> having converted pdf to doc, edited – or so I thought – >>>> resaved >>>> as pdf, uploaded to my
Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
How did you add the new partner? The method used is critical - see previous posts in this thread. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England mbstx wrote: > I have the same problem in a report I just generated. What I don't > understand is when there is a blank for the given name or surname, > but I know the other, and later I add the new information into the > same person's data fields, why would there still be an unknown? > Marianne > > -Original Message- >> From: Ron Ferguson >> Sent: May 20, 2010 2:41 AM >> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' >> >> I have a multitude of unknown spouses, which I wish to leave as >> blank. V7 now seems to be able to do this, although I have found an >> odd instance where "unknown" still appears, and have yet to work out >> why. >> >> I hope that I misunderstand when you say "There needs to be a string >> that automatically removes the "someone" when an actual name is >> entered". How is a machine expected to know whether or not the >> unknown should be replaced, it could be a totally different >> relationship. >> >> Ron Ferguson >> _ >> >> *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth >> http://www.fergys.co.uk >> Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw >> And the Fergusons of N.W. England >> >> >> >> CE Wood wrote: >>> I think she is asking why the program doesn't correct its mistake. >>> As one gathers more information, there will always be spouses >>> discovered. There needs to be a string that automatically removes >>> the "someone" when an actual name is entered. >>> >>> Correcting one marriage is not the issue. Correcting them ALL is >>> ridiculous. >>> >>> Legacy did say this error had been fixed. I guess not, huh? >>> >>> >>> CE >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Jennifer Crockett [mailto:jcrock...@optusnet.com.au] >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:30 PM >>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' >>> >>> I once had this happen to me. What I finally came up with to fix it >>> was to unlink the couple and then re-link them. I did this using the >>> Marriage List. >>> >>> Jennifer >>> >>> >>> From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] >>> Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 9:18 AM >>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com >>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' >>> >>> I have just been reading through a report I created yesterday (after >>> having converted pdf to doc, edited – or so I thought – >>> resaved >>> as pdf, uploaded to my newly created wiki!) and have noticed that I >>> have the ubiquitous Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN. I >>> thought this problem had been resolved some time ago. Originally I >>> had an unknown wife for Fred, but recently added a name. Obviously >>> the someone is a hangover from when her name was unknown. How does >>> one resolve this problem other than having to read through every >>> report word for word once it has been created. At the moment I >>> tend to rely on Word’s spelling error identifier to check for >>> spelling errors, as well as making any additions or deletions that >>> I know I need – I’d prefer not to have to check the wording of >>> every marriage statement just in case the extraneous ‘someone’ >>> is in place. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Jan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
That is a shame - mind you this happened to me several builds ago, so perhaps this is a new and different bug. Jennifer -Original Message- From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 10:18 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' Yes Jennifer, I did try that - to no effect unfortunately. Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Jennifer Crockett [mailto:jcrock...@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:18 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' Jan, Did you try what fixed this for me? Go to the Marriage List, find your couple, then go to Options, and "remove the marriage link" (make sure you note the RIN of each person first). Then go to the Name List, find the husband, say, click on him to open him in Family View, then add a spouse, choosing "add existing person", and add back the spouse. Jennifer -Original Message- From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 9:00 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' And my original question was - why, now that I have added the name of the previously unknown parent - do I get 'Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN' when I create a Descendant Narrative report? The word 'someone' is now superfluous. I would expect Legacy to use only the name I have entered. Cheers Jan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
I have the same problem in a report I just generated. What I don't understand is when there is a blank for the given name or surname, but I know the other, and later I add the new information into the same person's data fields, why would there still be an unknown? Marianne -Original Message- >From: Ron Ferguson >Sent: May 20, 2010 2:41 AM >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' > >I have a multitude of unknown spouses, which I wish to leave as blank. V7 >now seems to be able to do this, although I have found an odd instance where >"unknown" still appears, and have yet to work out why. > >I hope that I misunderstand when you say "There needs to be a string that >automatically removes the "someone" when an actual name is entered". How is >a machine expected to know whether or not the unknown should be replaced, it >could be a totally different relationship. > >Ron Ferguson >_ > >*New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth >http://www.fergys.co.uk >Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw >And the Fergusons of N.W. England > > > >CE Wood wrote: >> I think she is asking why the program doesn't correct its mistake. >> As one gathers more information, there will always be spouses >> discovered. There needs to be a string that automatically removes >> the "someone" when an actual name is entered. >> >> Correcting one marriage is not the issue. Correcting them ALL is >> ridiculous. >> >> Legacy did say this error had been fixed. I guess not, huh? >> >> >> CE >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Jennifer Crockett [mailto:jcrock...@optusnet.com.au] >> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:30 PM >> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' >> >> I once had this happen to me. What I finally came up with to fix it >> was to unlink the couple and then re-link them. I did this using the >> Marriage List. >> >> Jennifer >> >> >> From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] >> Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 9:18 AM >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com >> Subject: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' >> >> I have just been reading through a report I created yesterday (after >> having converted pdf to doc, edited – or so I thought – resaved as >> pdf, uploaded to my newly created wiki!) and have noticed that I have >> the ubiquitous Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN. I thought this >> problem had been resolved some time ago. Originally I had an unknown >> wife for Fred, but recently added a name. Obviously the someone is a >> hangover from when her name was unknown. How does one resolve this >> problem other than having to read through every report word for word >> once it has been created. At the moment I tend to rely on Word’s >> spelling error identifier to check for spelling errors, as well as >> making any additions or deletions that I know I need – I’d prefer not >> to have to check the wording of every marriage statement just in case >> the extraneous ‘someone’ is in place. >> >> Cheers >> Jan >> > > > > > >Legacy User Group guidelines: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > >Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > >Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ > >Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > >To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
Yes Jennifer, I did try that - to no effect unfortunately. Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Jennifer Crockett [mailto:jcrock...@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:18 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' Jan, Did you try what fixed this for me? Go to the Marriage List, find your couple, then go to Options, and "remove the marriage link" (make sure you note the RIN of each person first). Then go to the Name List, find the husband, say, click on him to open him in Family View, then add a spouse, choosing "add existing person", and add back the spouse. Jennifer -Original Message- From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 9:00 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' And my original question was - why, now that I have added the name of the previously unknown parent - do I get 'Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN' when I create a Descendant Narrative report? The word 'someone' is now superfluous. I would expect Legacy to use only the name I have entered. Cheers Jan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
Jan Roberts wrote >And my original question was - why, now that I have added the name of >the previously unknown parent - do I get 'Fred married someone Mary >Jane BROWN' when I create a Descendant Narrative report? The word >'someone' is now superfluous. I would expect Legacy to use only the >name I have entered. Indeed. And in my case it does, so I don't know why this is not happening for you. Interestingly, I see that if I give a child to a man, the Report reads "X married someone. She had a child" but if I then give a name to "someone" the Reports reads "X married Y. They had a child." -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
Jan, I appreciate that, and had I been able to give you a solution I would have done, but I don't know. Logically it should be some sort of link which is still there in your database, and I cannot see your database. Others have made suggestions, but if you click the husband icon is the unkown husband stll there, if so delete it. I am sure someone else has suggested this though. My apologies for the continuance of the highjacking of your thread! Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England Jan Roberts wrote: > And my original question was - why, now that I have added the name of > the previously unknown parent - do I get 'Fred married someone Mary > Jane BROWN' when I create a Descendant Narrative report? The word > 'someone' is now superfluous. I would expect Legacy to use only the > name I have entered. > > Cheers > Jan > -Original Message- > From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] > Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 20:06 > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' > > Ron Ferguson wrote >> The point which I was trying to make, obviously not very well, was >> that these selection processes, where we have the option of adding a >> new spouse *or* replacing an unknown must remain. > > Oh heavens, yes! Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
Jan, Did you try what fixed this for me? Go to the Marriage List, find your couple, then go to Options, and "remove the marriage link" (make sure you note the RIN of each person first). Then go to the Name List, find the husband, say, click on him to open him in Family View, then add a spouse, choosing "add existing person", and add back the spouse. Jennifer -Original Message- From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 9:00 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' And my original question was - why, now that I have added the name of the previously unknown parent - do I get 'Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN' when I create a Descendant Narrative report? The word 'someone' is now superfluous. I would expect Legacy to use only the name I have entered. Cheers Jan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
And my original question was - why, now that I have added the name of the previously unknown parent - do I get 'Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN' when I create a Descendant Narrative report? The word 'someone' is now superfluous. I would expect Legacy to use only the name I have entered. Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 20:06 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' Ron Ferguson wrote >The point which I was trying to make, obviously not very well, was that >these selection processes, where we have the option of adding a new >spouse *or* replacing an unknown must remain. Oh heavens, yes! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
Ron Ferguson wrote >The point which I was trying to make, obviously not very well, was that >these selection processes, where we have the option of adding a new >spouse *or* replacing an unknown must remain. Oh heavens, yes! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
Jenny M Benson wrote: > Ron Ferguson wrote >> I hope that I misunderstand when you say "There needs to be a string >> that automatically removes the "someone" when an actual name is >> entered". How is a machine expected to know whether or not the >> unknown should be replaced, it could be a totally different >> relationship. > > I don't think that's a problem. When you add a child to someone, > without giving him/her a spouse it shows in Reports as "X married > someone." If you then click in the blank area for the spouse of X, > parent of the child, and enter details those details do or should > replace "Someone" on the Report. However, if you click on the > "Spouses" icon because you want to give X a new (different to the > parent of the child) spouse the child's parent shows as Unknown and > you add a second spouse. > > The machine can definitely distinguish between you adding details to > the "placeholder" for an unknown spouse and adding a new (or existing) > person as an additional spouse. Jenny , What you say is true, and I woud add that if right click>Add Spouse is used then the unknown is also replaced, so I take your point made in the last paragraph, but *I* chose which way to enter the spouse, not the machine. The point which I was trying to make, obviously not very well, was that these selection processes, where we have the option of adding a new spouse *or* replacing an unknown must remain. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
Ron Ferguson wrote >I hope that I misunderstand when you say "There needs to be a string >that automatically removes the "someone" when an actual name is >entered". How is a machine expected to know whether or not the unknown >should be replaced, it could be a totally different relationship. I don't think that's a problem. When you add a child to someone, without giving him/her a spouse it shows in Reports as "X married someone." If you then click in the blank area for the spouse of X, parent of the child, and enter details those details do or should replace "Someone" on the Report. However, if you click on the "Spouses" icon because you want to give X a new (different to the parent of the child) spouse the child's parent shows as Unknown and you add a second spouse. The machine can definitely distinguish between you adding details to the "placeholder" for an unknown spouse and adding a new (or existing) person as an additional spouse. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
I leave the name space blank if I have no clue what the name was. Since my Scandinavians have names like Anna Pedersdotter, I might 'create' a name like that (or Mrs. Johnson, which I hate) but I leave it blank otherwise. The program fills in the unknown into the screen, but does not print them on paper. I like it that way, so I am happy. I know some people like/need to type in unknown, that is a choice. I think it comes down to when the LDS stopped accepting input of unknown, (heard as RUMOR) the climate changed. I suspect that the Legacy crew, some of whom are LDS, are following the guidance of the church (not told anything, officially). In any case, both groups and I leave the fields blank/empty instead of 'unknown'. I decided years ago that if all I had was the possible parent of my person may have the same surname (or the child didn't have one), a birthdate range of over 20 years, in a country or continent as a location, I didn't have enough to bother with. Some of the sentences come out looking stupid (my opinion) but I will send instead a cover letter staying that this is still a work in progress. As per above, I don't think Legacy cares what you put, only that you tell it to ignore the 'potential problems'. That way only the new people you add that are missing stuff, or use non-standard names, will show up as a problem. Then you can fix or accept that you can never fix it. Example: I have church records that states the birth was on 30 Feb (forgot the year). I later found out that the area used that date for a few decades. The priest who did it didn't know (or care) that someday someone would be bothered by it. If you want to put unknown in, just give the computer permission to not pester you about it. Rich in LA CA --- On Wed, 5/19/10, JLB wrote: > From: JLB > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 10:50 PM > Has L7 fixed it? I remember this > going around once before. Why does > Legacy have a problem with 'unknown' as a name? I have a > list of them in > my Potential Problems list. What is Legacy OK with as a > name for an > unknown person? > - > JL > JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists > http://www.jgen.ws/jlog > > On 5/19/2010 10:25 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote: > > Since my situations of changing unknowns to knowns, > were solved back > > in L5, when I had to repair it myself. I didn't know > L7 had fixed it. > > I in L5, removed all my unknowns, because the program > installed the > > word unknown (in the screen only, not reports) which > was what I had > > been wanting to have done. So, I did it the old way, > and will never > > again put the name unknown for anyone. Let the program > do field fills > > for the screen. Rich in LA CA > > > > --- On Wed, 5/19/10, CE Wood > wrote: > > > >> From: CE Wood > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married > >> 'Someone' To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Date: Wednesday, May > >> 19, 2010, 9:57 PM I think she is asking why the > program doesn't > >> correct its mistake. As one gathers more > information, there will > >> always be spouses discovered. There needs to be a > string that > >> automatically removes the "someone" when an actual > name is > >> entered. > >> > >> Correcting one marriage is not the issue. > Correcting them ALL is > >> ridiculous. > >> > >> Legacy did say this error had been fixed. I > guess not, huh? > >> > >> > >> CE > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- From: Jennifer > Crockett > >> [mailto:jcrock...@optusnet.com.au] > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 > >> 4:30 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] > >> Married 'Someone' > >> > >> I once had this happen to me. What I finally came > up with to fix it > >> was to unlink the couple and then re-link them. I > did this using > >> the Marriage List. > >> > >> Jennifer > >> > >> > >> From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] > Sent: Thursday, 20 > >> May 2010 9:18 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com > Subject: > >> [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' > >> > >> I have just been reading through a report I > created yesterday > >> (after having converted pdf to doc, edited – or > so I thought – > >> resaved as pdf, uploaded to my newly created > wiki!) and have > >> noticed that I have the ubiquitous Fred married
Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
I have a multitude of unknown spouses, which I wish to leave as blank. V7 now seems to be able to do this, although I have found an odd instance where "unknown" still appears, and have yet to work out why. I hope that I misunderstand when you say "There needs to be a string that automatically removes the "someone" when an actual name is entered". How is a machine expected to know whether or not the unknown should be replaced, it could be a totally different relationship. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Tutorial: Add Location Pins to Google Earth http://www.fergys.co.uk Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw And the Fergusons of N.W. England CE Wood wrote: > I think she is asking why the program doesn't correct its mistake. > As one gathers more information, there will always be spouses > discovered. There needs to be a string that automatically removes > the "someone" when an actual name is entered. > > Correcting one marriage is not the issue. Correcting them ALL is > ridiculous. > > Legacy did say this error had been fixed. I guess not, huh? > > > CE > > > -Original Message- > From: Jennifer Crockett [mailto:jcrock...@optusnet.com.au] > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:30 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' > > I once had this happen to me. What I finally came up with to fix it > was to unlink the couple and then re-link them. I did this using the > Marriage List. > > Jennifer > > > From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] > Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 9:18 AM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com > Subject: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' > > I have just been reading through a report I created yesterday (after > having converted pdf to doc, edited – or so I thought – resaved as > pdf, uploaded to my newly created wiki!) and have noticed that I have > the ubiquitous Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN. I thought this > problem had been resolved some time ago. Originally I had an unknown > wife for Fred, but recently added a name. Obviously the someone is a > hangover from when her name was unknown. How does one resolve this > problem other than having to read through every report word for word > once it has been created. At the moment I tend to rely on Word’s > spelling error identifier to check for spelling errors, as well as > making any additions or deletions that I know I need – I’d prefer not > to have to check the wording of every marriage statement just in case > the extraneous ‘someone’ is in place. > > Cheers > Jan > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
Has L7 fixed it? I remember this going around once before. Why does Legacy have a problem with 'unknown' as a name? I have a list of them in my Potential Problems list. What is Legacy OK with as a name for an unknown person? - JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www.jgen.ws/jlog On 5/19/2010 10:25 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote: > Since my situations of changing unknowns to knowns, were solved back > in L5, when I had to repair it myself. I didn't know L7 had fixed it. > I in L5, removed all my unknowns, because the program installed the > word unknown (in the screen only, not reports) which was what I had > been wanting to have done. So, I did it the old way, and will never > again put the name unknown for anyone. Let the program do field fills > for the screen. Rich in LA CA > > --- On Wed, 5/19/10, CE Wood wrote: > >> From: CE Wood Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married >> 'Someone' To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Wednesday, May >> 19, 2010, 9:57 PM I think she is asking why the program doesn't >> correct its mistake. As one gathers more information, there will >> always be spouses discovered. There needs to be a string that >> automatically removes the "someone" when an actual name is >> entered. >> >> Correcting one marriage is not the issue. Correcting them ALL is >> ridiculous. >> >> Legacy did say this error had been fixed. I guess not, huh? >> >> >> CE >> >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer Crockett >> [mailto:jcrock...@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 >> 4:30 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] >> Married 'Someone' >> >> I once had this happen to me. What I finally came up with to fix it >> was to unlink the couple and then re-link them. I did this using >> the Marriage List. >> >> Jennifer >> >> >> From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 20 >> May 2010 9:18 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: >> [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' >> >> I have just been reading through a report I created yesterday >> (after having converted pdf to doc, edited – or so I thought – >> resaved as pdf, uploaded to my newly created wiki!) and have >> noticed that I have the ubiquitous Fred married someone Mary Jane >> BROWN. I thought this problem had been resolved some time ago. >> Originally I had an unknown wife for Fred, but recently added a >> name. Obviously the someone is a hangover from when her name was >> unknown. How does one resolve this problem other than having to >> read through every report word for word once it has been created. >> At the moment I tend to rely on Word’s spelling error identifier to >> check for spelling errors, as well as making any additions or >> deletions that I know I need – I’d prefer not to have to check the >> wording of every marriage statement just in case the extraneous >> ‘someone’ is in place. >> >> Cheers Jan >> >> >> >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: >> >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> >> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >> >> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ >> >> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> >> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - >> www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2868 - >> Release Date: 05/18/10 11:26:00 >> >> >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: >> >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> >> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >> >> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ >> >> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> >> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >> >> >> >> > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr
RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
Since my situations of changing unknowns to knowns, were solved back in L5, when I had to repair it myself. I didn't know L7 had fixed it. I in L5, removed all my unknowns, because the program installed the word unknown (in the screen only, not reports) which was what I had been wanting to have done. So, I did it the old way, and will never again put the name unknown for anyone. Let the program do field fills for the screen. Rich in LA CA --- On Wed, 5/19/10, CE Wood wrote: > From: CE Wood > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 9:57 PM > I think she is asking why the program > doesn't correct its mistake. As one gathers more > information, there will always be spouses discovered. > There needs to be a string that automatically removes the > "someone" when an actual name is entered. > > Correcting one marriage is not the issue. Correcting > them ALL is ridiculous. > > Legacy did say this error had been fixed. I guess > not, huh? > > > CE > > > -Original Message- > From: Jennifer Crockett [mailto:jcrock...@optusnet.com.au] > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:30 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' > > I once had this happen to me. What I finally came up with > to fix it was to unlink the couple and then re-link them. I > did this using the Marriage List. > > Jennifer > > > From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] > Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 9:18 AM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com > Subject: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' > > I have just been reading through a report I created > yesterday (after having converted pdf to doc, edited – or > so I thought – resaved as pdf, uploaded to my newly > created wiki!) and have noticed that I have the ubiquitous > Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN. I thought this > problem had been resolved some time ago. Originally I > had an unknown wife for Fred, but recently added a > name. Obviously the someone is a hangover from when > her name was unknown. How does one resolve this > problem other than having to read through every report word > for word once it has been created. At the moment I > tend to rely on Word’s spelling error identifier to check > for spelling errors, as well as making any additions or > deletions that I know I need – I’d prefer not to have to > check the wording of every marriage statement just in case > the extraneous ‘someone’ is in place. > > Cheers > Jan > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 > 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2868 - Release > Date: 05/18/10 11:26:00 > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 > 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
I think she is asking why the program doesn't correct its mistake. As one gathers more information, there will always be spouses discovered. There needs to be a string that automatically removes the "someone" when an actual name is entered. Correcting one marriage is not the issue. Correcting them ALL is ridiculous. Legacy did say this error had been fixed. I guess not, huh? CE -Original Message- From: Jennifer Crockett [mailto:jcrock...@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:30 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' I once had this happen to me. What I finally came up with to fix it was to unlink the couple and then re-link them. I did this using the Marriage List. Jennifer From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 9:18 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' I have just been reading through a report I created yesterday (after having converted pdf to doc, edited – or so I thought – resaved as pdf, uploaded to my newly created wiki!) and have noticed that I have the ubiquitous Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN. I thought this problem had been resolved some time ago. Originally I had an unknown wife for Fred, but recently added a name. Obviously the someone is a hangover from when her name was unknown. How does one resolve this problem other than having to read through every report word for word once it has been created. At the moment I tend to rely on Word’s spelling error identifier to check for spelling errors, as well as making any additions or deletions that I know I need – I’d prefer not to have to check the wording of every marriage statement just in case the extraneous ‘someone’ is in place. Cheers Jan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2868 - Release Date: 05/18/10 11:26:00 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
What you need to do is, edit the unknown person with a fake name, then merge fake to real. And your signature is sent in hmtl, against the rules. Rich in LA CA --- On Wed, 5/19/10, Jan Roberts wrote: From: Jan Roberts Subject: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 4:17 PM I have just been reading through a report I created yesterday (after having converted pdf to doc, edited – or so I thought – resaved as pdf, uploaded to my newly created wiki!) and have noticed that I have the ubiquitous Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN. I thought this problem had been resolved some time ago. Originally I had an unknown wife for Fred, but recently added a name. Obviously the someone is a hangover from when her name was unknown. How does one resolve this problem other than having to read through every report word for word once it has been created. At the moment I tend to rely on Word’s spelling error identifier to check for spelling errors, as well as making any additions or deletions that I know I need – I’d prefer not to have to check the wording of every marriage statement just in case the extraneous ‘someone’ is in place. Cheers Jan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
I once had this happen to me. What I finally came up with to fix it was to unlink the couple and then re-link them. I did this using the Marriage List. Jennifer From: Jan Roberts [mailto:poo...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 9:18 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Married 'Someone' I have just been reading through a report I created yesterday (after having converted pdf to doc, edited – or so I thought – resaved as pdf, uploaded to my newly created wiki!) and have noticed that I have the ubiquitous Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN. I thought this problem had been resolved some time ago. Originally I had an unknown wife for Fred, but recently added a name. Obviously the someone is a hangover from when her name was unknown. How does one resolve this problem other than having to read through every report word for word once it has been created. At the moment I tend to rely on Word’s spelling error identifier to check for spelling errors, as well as making any additions or deletions that I know I need – I’d prefer not to have to check the wording of every marriage statement just in case the extraneous ‘someone’ is in place. Cheers Jan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Married 'Someone'
I have just been reading through a report I created yesterday (after having converted pdf to doc, edited - or so I thought - resaved as pdf, uploaded to my newly created wiki!) and have noticed that I have the ubiquitous Fred married someone Mary Jane BROWN. I thought this problem had been resolved some time ago. Originally I had an unknown wife for Fred, but recently added a name. Obviously the someone is a hangover from when her name was unknown. How does one resolve this problem other than having to read through every report word for word once it has been created. At the moment I tend to rely on Word's spelling error identifier to check for spelling errors, as well as making any additions or deletions that I know I need - I'd prefer not to have to check the wording of every marriage statement just in case the extraneous 'someone' is in place. Cheers Jan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
