Re: [LegacyUG] Merge, Find Duplicates search, no RINs

[Brian Kelly]

I am seeing the RINs on my merge screen. They are in square brackets 
following the name of the person on each side above the information 
display. Format is Name [RIN]


Ti ensure that you see RINs make sure the option 8.2 is set ti show RINs 
on screens.


Brian Kelly

On 04-Jan.-19 10:05 p.m., Boyd Miller wrote:
When I do a search for duplicates, I expect to see RINs against the 
names that will potentially be merged. When you back out of the merge to 
verify or add to data to those people, the RINs are necessary to 
identify the individuals.
Currently I see no RINs in the merge screens. Have I accidentally turned 
something off? If so how do I get RINs back to this screen?

Or has something been changed in a recent update?

Boyd



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[LegacyUG] Merge, Find Duplicates search, no RINs

[Boyd Miller]

When I do a search for duplicates, I expect to see RINs against the 
names that will potentially be merged. When you back out of the merge to 
verify or add to data to those people, the RINs are necessary to 
identify the individuals.
Currently I see no RINs in the merge screens. Have I accidentally turned 
something off? If so how do I get RINs back to this screen?

Or has something been changed in a recent update?

Boyd

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Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

[Cathy Pinner]

Then send in a bug report, Gene, complete with your options and examples.

Cathy

Gene Hutson wrote:


Well Cathy, looked into it further, checked all appropriate boxes,
figured I’d give

it the benefit of the doubt, I’m working away and it pops up, still
appears to

only recognize the name, the person it is questioning, has completely
different

parents, different bap/chr dates, and in this instance, date if off by
about 5 years.

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Ernie Anderson <mailto:bonedigg...@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Thursday, March 29, 2018 12:21 AM
*To: *Legacy User Group <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
*Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

I have used RootsMagic merge with very good results. the first option
is mirror image merge, the other options are 1 year, two year and zero
and they are done in color, Green for exact merge, Yellow something is
missing and red for not alike.I find it much faster to use, with the
green I can manually merge as fast as they come up, I don't have to
check on dates or places or names which in Legacy really slows you
down. With the present problems in Legacy, I would much rather use RM
to merge my data than use Legacy.

Ernie

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 7:20 AM, Gene Hutson mailto:bigfish68...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Cathy,

If you took it as criticism, I apologize, wasn’t meant that way,
more a nudge,

I have been using Legacy for roughly 18 years, going back to
version 4 or 5

and have NEVER been able to get it to recognize those dates.

Once again, my apologies, I will look further into it.

Gene

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>
for Windows 10

*From: *Cathy Pinner <mailto:genea...@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Tuesday, March 27, 2018 11:15 PM
*To: *Legacy User Group <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
*Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

Gene,

If the merge is not considering Christening Dates, it's because
you haven't checked in the Merge Options to have them considered.

So before criticising the merge further, learn how to use the
Options it has.

I know the Merge function isn't perfect and there are some known bugs.

But not being able to consider Christening/Baptism Dates isn't one
of them.

Cathy

Gene Hutson wrote:


And further, the merge is not really fair in disregarding bap/chr
dates,

dates in the U.K. before 1837 are always baptism/christening dates, we

as genealogists strive for accuracy, but a true birthdate is often
hard to

come by, if you can find one at all, save for the family bible that
has been

stashed. Mandatory registration did not come into play like I
said, until

1837 in the U.K. and often times after 1900 here in the States.
Here in

Nebraska it was I believe 1912, so any date before that is a
bap/chr date.

Gene

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Ernie Anderson <mailto:bonedigg...@gmail.com
<mailto:bonedigg...@gmail.com>>
*Sent: *Monday, March 26, 2018 8:06 PM
*To: *Legacy User Group <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
<mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>>
*Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

Hi I run a merge on 156,000 names and got 1300 on autpmerge, and used
Intelli pass. Before I run the merge I checked file properties and
wrote down the number of names and got 156,468. After the merge I got
156,468 names. So what is the point of the merge if it does not do
any
merging. It still left me with 1300 names to merge manually.

Also when running the merge it locked up all my ram memory so I could
not use any of my other screens. The mouse was frozen.

Ernie

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 3:48 AM, Cathy Pinner mailto:genea...@gmail.com>
<mailto:genea...@gmail.com <mailto:genea...@gmail.com>>> wrote:

Gene,
This check for duplicates as you add is relatively new feature I
think added in Legacy 8. It's not meant to be a full blown merge
involving intellimerge or anything else. It's to help prevent you
from adding someone who is already entered.

If you don't want to do that and would prefer the fuller merge
from time to time, then turn it off. It's controlled from Options
- Customise 2.1

Cathy

Gene Hutson wrote:


Thank you, I thought maybe perhaps this was a little more modern,

&n bsp; I’m used to the old days where if everything were exact it
would/

Could pass directly into intellimerge, or intellipass, if not,
it came

back for more options, as this is now, without modification,
it seems

kinda silly to have just to pop up and get in the way.

But Thanx for trying.

&nb sp; Gene

Sent from Mail
<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Cathy Pinner  enea...@gmail.com
<mailto:enea...@gmail.com>
<mailto:genea...@gmail.com <mailto:genea...@gmail.com>>&g

Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

[Gene Hutson]

Well Cathy, looked into it further, checked all appropriate boxes, figured I’d 
give
 it the benefit of the doubt, I’m working away and it pops up, still appears to
 only recognize the name, the person it is questioning, has completely different
 parents, different bap/chr dates, and in this instance, date if off by about 5 
years.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Ernie Anderson
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 12:21 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

I have used RootsMagic merge with very good results.  the first option is 
mirror image merge, the other options are 1 year, two year and zero and they 
are done in color, Green for exact merge, Yellow something is missing and red 
for not alike.I find it much faster to use, with the green I can manually merge 
as fast as they come up, I don't have to check on dates or places or names 
which in Legacy really slows  you down.  With the present problems in Legacy, I 
would much rather use RM to merge my data than use Legacy.
Ernie

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 7:20 AM, Gene Hutson  wrote:
Cathy,
 
   If you took it as criticism, I apologize, wasn’t meant that way, more a 
nudge,
    I have been using Legacy for roughly 18 years, going back to version 4 or 5
    and have NEVER been able to get it to recognize those dates.
 
   Once again, my apologies, I will look further into it.
 
   Gene
 
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: Cathy Pinner
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 11:15 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete
 
Gene,

If the merge is not considering Christening Dates, it's because you haven't 
checked in the Merge Options to have them considered.

So before criticising the merge further, learn how to use the Options it has.

I know the Merge function isn't perfect and there are some known bugs.

But not being able to consider Christening/Baptism Dates isn't one of them.

Cathy

Gene Hutson wrote:

And further, the merge is not really fair in disregarding bap/chr dates,

dates in the U.K. before 1837 are always baptism/christening dates, we

as genealogists strive for accuracy, but a true birthdate is often hard to

come by, if you can find one at all, save for the family bible that 
has been

stashed. Mandatory registration did not come into play like I said, until

1837 in the U.K. and often times after 1900 here in the States. Here in

Nebraska it was I believe 1912, so any date before that is a bap/chr date.

Gene

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for 
Windows 10

*From: *Ernie Anderson <mailto:bonedigg...@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Monday, March 26, 2018 8:06 PM
*To: *Legacy User Group <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
*Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

Hi I run a merge on 156,000 names and got 1300 on autpmerge, and used 
Intelli pass. Before I run the merge I checked file properties and 
wrote down the number of names and got 156,468. After the merge I got 
156,468 names. So what is the point of the merge if it does not do any 
merging. It still left me with 1300 names to merge manually.

Also when running the merge it locked up all my ram memory so I could 
not use any of my other screens. The mouse was frozen.

Ernie

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 3:48 AM, Cathy Pinner mailto:genea...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Gene,
    This check for duplicates as you add is relatively new feature I
    think added in Legacy 8. It's not meant to be a full blown merge
    involving intellimerge or anything else. It's to help prevent you
    from adding someone who is already entered.

    If you don't want to do that and would prefer the fuller merge
    from time to time, then turn it off. It's controlled from Options
    - Customise 2.1

    Cathy

    Gene Hutson wrote:


    Thank you, I thought maybe perhaps this was a little more modern,

&n bsp;   I’m used to the old days where if everything were exact it would/

    Could pass directly into intellimerge, or intellipass, if not,
    it came

    back for more options, as this is now, without modification,
    it seems

    kinda silly to have just to pop up and get in the way.

    But Thanx for trying.

    &nb sp; Gene

    Sent from Mail
    <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
    Windows 10

    *From: *Cathy Pinner mailto:genea...@gmail.com>>
    *Sent: *Monday, March 26, 2018 2:44 AM
    *To: *Legacy User Group
    <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
    <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>>
    *Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

    Gene,

    That QuickDup search as you enter someone new has very few
    criteria
    though you can modify them. See Options Ribbon - QuickDup Options.

    The full Merge options are more extensive.

& nbsp;   

Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

[Ernie Anderson]

I have used RootsMagic merge with very good results.  the first option is
mirror image merge, the other options are 1 year, two year and zero and
they are done in color, Green for exact merge, Yellow something is missing
and red for not alike.I find it much faster to use, with the green I can
manually merge as fast as they come up, I don't have to check on dates or
places or names which in Legacy really slows  you down.  With the present
problems in Legacy, I would much rather use RM to merge my data than use
Legacy.
Ernie

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 7:20 AM, Gene Hutson  wrote:

> Cathy,
>
>
>
>If you took it as criticism, I apologize, wasn’t meant that way, more a
> nudge,
>
> I have been using Legacy for roughly 18 years, going back to version 4
> or 5
>
> and have NEVER been able to get it to recognize those dates.
>
>
>
>Once again, my apologies, I will look further into it.
>
>
>
>Gene
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Cathy Pinner 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 27, 2018 11:15 PM
> *To: *Legacy User Group 
> *Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete
>
>
>
> Gene,
>
> If the merge is not considering Christening Dates, it's because you
> haven't checked in the Merge Options to have them considered.
>
> So before criticising the merge further, learn how to use the Options it
> has.
>
> I know the Merge function isn't perfect and there are some known bugs.
>
> But not being able to consider Christening/Baptism Dates isn't one of them.
>
> Cathy
>
> Gene Hutson wrote:
>
>
> And further, the merge is not really fair in disregarding bap/chr dates,
>
> dates in the U.K. before 1837 are always baptism/christening dates, we
>
> as genealogists strive for accuracy, but a true birthdate is often hard to
>
> come by, if you can find one at all, save for the family bible that
> has been
>
> stashed. Mandatory registration did not come into play like I said, until
>
> 1837 in the U.K. and often times after 1900 here in the States. Here in
>
> Nebraska it was I believe 1912, so any date before that is a bap/chr date.
>
> Gene
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
> *From: *Ernie Anderson <mailto:bonedigg...@gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Monday, March 26, 2018 8:06 PM
> *To: *Legacy User Group <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete
>
> Hi I run a merge on 156,000 names and got 1300 on autpmerge, and used
> Intelli pass. Before I run the merge I checked file properties and
> wrote down the number of names and got 156,468. After the merge I got
> 156,468 names. So what is the point of the merge if it does not do any
> merging. It still left me with 1300 names to merge manually.
>
> Also when running the merge it locked up all my ram memory so I could
> not use any of my other screens. The mouse was frozen.
>
> Ernie
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 3:48 AM, Cathy Pinner  <mailto:genea...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Gene,
> This check for duplicates as you add is relatively new feature I
> think added in Legacy 8. It's not meant to be a full blown merge
> involving intellimerge or anything else. It's to help prevent you
> from adding someone who is already entered.
>
> If you don't want to do that and would prefer the fuller merge
> from time to time, then turn it off. It's controlled from Options
> - Customise 2.1
>
> Cathy
>
> Gene Hutson wrote:
>
>
> Thank you, I thought maybe perhaps this was a little more modern,
>
> &n bsp;   I’m used to the old days where if everything were exact it
> would/
>
> Could pass directly into intellimerge, or intellipass, if not,
> it came
>
> back for more options, as this is now, without modification,
> it seems
>
> kinda silly to have just to pop up and get in the way.
>
> But Thanx for trying.
>
> &nb sp; Gene
>
> Sent from Mail
> <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
> *From: *Cathy Pinner  <mailto:genea...@gmail.com>>
> *Sent: *Monday, March 26, 2018 2:44 AM
> *To: *Legacy User Group
> <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
> <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>>
> *Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete
>
> Gene,
>
> That QuickDup search as 

Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

[Gene Hutson]

Cathy,

   If you took it as criticism, I apologize, wasn’t meant that way, more a 
nudge,
I have been using Legacy for roughly 18 years, going back to version 4 or 5
and have NEVER been able to get it to recognize those dates.

   Once again, my apologies, I will look further into it.

   Gene

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Cathy Pinner
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 11:15 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

Gene,

If the merge is not considering Christening Dates, it's because you haven't 
checked in the Merge Options to have them considered.

So before criticising the merge further, learn how to use the Options it has.

I know the Merge function isn't perfect and there are some known bugs.

But not being able to consider Christening/Baptism Dates isn't one of them.

Cathy

Gene Hutson wrote:


And further, the merge is not really fair in disregarding bap/chr dates,

dates in the U.K. before 1837 are always baptism/christening dates, we

as genealogists strive for accuracy, but a true birthdate is often hard to

come by, if you can find one at all, save for the family bible that 
has been

stashed. Mandatory registration did not come into play like I said, until

1837 in the U.K. and often times after 1900 here in the States. Here in

Nebraska it was I believe 1912, so any date before that is a bap/chr date.

Gene

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for 
Windows 10

*From: *Ernie Anderson <mailto:bonedigg...@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Monday, March 26, 2018 8:06 PM
*To: *Legacy User Group <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
*Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

Hi I run a merge on 156,000 names and got 1300 on autpmerge, and used 
Intelli pass. Before I run the merge I checked file properties and 
wrote down the number of names and got 156,468. After the merge I got 
156,468 names. So what is the point of the merge if it does not do any 
merging. It still left me with 1300 names to merge manually.

Also when running the merge it locked up all my ram memory so I could 
not use any of my other screens. The mouse was frozen.

Ernie

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 3:48 AM, Cathy Pinner mailto:genea...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Gene,
    This check for duplicates as you add is relatively new feature I
    think added in Legacy 8. It's not meant to be a full blown merge
    involving intellimerge or anything else. It's to help prevent you
    from adding someone who is already entered.

    If you don't want to do that and would prefer the fuller merge
    from time to time, then turn it off. It's controlled from Options
    - Customise 2.1

    Cathy

    Gene Hutson wrote:


    Thank you, I thought maybe perhaps this was a little more modern,

&n bsp;   I’m used to the old days where if everything were exact it would/

    Could pass directly into intellimerge, or intellipass, if not,
    it came

    back for more options, as this is now, without modification,
    it seems

    kinda silly to have just to pop up and get in the way.

    But Thanx for trying.

    &nb sp; Gene

    Sent from Mail
    <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
    Windows 10

    *From: *Cathy Pinner mailto:genea...@gmail.com>>
    *Sent: *Monday, March 26, 2018 2:44 AM
    *To: *Legacy User Group
    <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
    <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>>
    *Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

    Gene,

    That QuickDup search as you enter someone new has very few
    criteria
    though you can modify them. See Options Ribbon - QuickDup Options.

    The full Merge options are more extensive.

& nbsp;   Cathy

    Gene Hutson wrote:


    Thanx Cathy,

    It does not appear to take into account birthdates either,

    mainly name, it will bring up the exact name but totally different

    birthdates, in my experience so far, as much as a 5 year gap.

    Sent from Mail
    <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
    Windows 10

    *From: *Cathy Pinner <mailto:genea <mailto:genea>
    k...@gmail.com <mailto:k...@gmail.com>>
    ; *Sent: *Sunday, March 25, 2018 8:45 PM
    *To: *Legacy User Group
    <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
    <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>>
    *Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete
    < BR> Gene Hutson,

    As a Legacy tester, I'll check this out further. If the merge were
    initiated from Merge - Manual Merge it is usually followed by
    suggestions of others that probably also need to be merged -
    though it
    does depend on your merge criteria. There are of course default
  

Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

[Cathy Pinner]

Gene,

If the merge is not considering Christening Dates, it's because you 
haven't checked in the Merge Options to have them considered.


So before criticising the merge further, learn how to use the Options it 
has.


I know the Merge function isn't perfect and there are some known bugs.

But not being able to consider Christening/Baptism Dates isn't one of them.

Cathy

Gene Hutson wrote:


And further, the merge is not really fair in disregarding bap/chr dates,

dates in the U.K. before 1837 are always baptism/christening dates, we

as genealogists strive for accuracy, but a true birthdate is often hard to

come by, if you can find one at all, save for the family bible that
has been

stashed. Mandatory registration did not come into play like I said, until

1837 in the U.K. and often times after 1900 here in the States. Here in

Nebraska it was I believe 1912, so any date before that is a bap/chr date.

Gene

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Ernie Anderson <mailto:bonedigg...@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Monday, March 26, 2018 8:06 PM
*To: *Legacy User Group <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
*Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

Hi I run a merge on 156,000 names and got 1300 on autpmerge, and used
Intelli pass. Before I run the merge I checked file properties and
wrote down the number of names and got 156,468. After the merge I got
156,468 names. So what is the point of the merge if it does not do any
merging. It still left me with 1300 names to merge manually.

Also when running the merge it locked up all my ram memory so I could
not use any of my other screens. The mouse was frozen.

Ernie

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 3:48 AM, Cathy Pinner mailto:genea...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Gene,
This check for duplicates as you add is relatively new feature I
think added in Legacy 8. It's not meant to be a full blown merge
involving intellimerge or anything else. It's to help prevent you
from adding someone who is already entered.

If you don't want to do that and would prefer the fuller merge
from time to time, then turn it off. It's controlled from Options
- Customise 2.1

Cathy

Gene Hutson wrote:


Thank you, I thought maybe perhaps this was a little more modern,

I’m used to the old days where if everything were exact it would/

Could pass directly into intellimerge, or intellipass, if not,
it came

back for more options, as this is now, without modification,
it seems

kinda silly to have just to pop up and get in the way.

But Thanx for trying.

&nb sp; Gene

Sent from Mail
<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Cathy Pinner <mailto:genea...@gmail.com
<mailto:genea...@gmail.com>>
*Sent: *Monday, March 26, 2018 2:44 AM
*To: *Legacy User Group
<mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
<mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>>
*Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

Gene,

That QuickDup search as you enter someone new has very few
criteria
though you can modify them. See Options Ribbon - QuickDup Options.

The full Merge options are more extensive.

Cathy

Gene Hutson wrote:


Thanx Cathy,

It does not appear to take into account birthdates either,

mainly name, it will bring up the exact name but totally different

birthdates, in my experience so far, as much as a 5 year gap.

Sent from Mail
<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Cathy Pinner <mailto:genea <mailto:genea>
k...@gmail.com <mailto:k...@gmail.com>>
*Sent: *Sunday, March 25, 2018 8:45 PM
*To: *Legacy User Group
<mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
<mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>>
*Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete
< BR> Gene Hutson,

As a Legacy tester, I'll check this out further. If the merge were
initiated from Merge - Manual Merge it is usually followed by
suggestions of others that probably also need to be merged -
though it
does depend on your merge criteria. There are of course default
criteria but you can adjust them.

I'm not altogether surprised that it isn't doing this when merging
from the duplicate dialogue that pops up when you're entering
a new
person as I would expect the merged person to inherit all the
relationships of the person you merged into and that's my limited
experience. I rarely add a duplicate and when I do, I usually
back out
of that dialogue to do a wider check before using the Manual
Merge.

I don't think any of the merge criteria includes the marriage
status
of the person.

Cathy

Gene Hutson wrote:


And as a further to earlier, it does not go far enough into
the merge

process by taking into account whether he/she was single and

never married, you can check the “never married” box and it will

still ask about duplicates, nor does it take into account
death dates.

Sent from Mail
&

Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

[Gene Hutson]

And further, the merge is not really fair in disregarding bap/chr dates,
 dates in the U.K. before 1837 are always baptism/christening dates, we
as genealogists strive for accuracy, but a true birthdate is often hard to
 come by, if you can find one at all, save for the family bible that has been
 stashed. Mandatory registration did not come into play like I said, until
 1837 in the U.K. and often times after 1900 here in the States. Here in
 Nebraska it was I believe 1912, so any date before that is a bap/chr date.

Gene

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Ernie Anderson
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 8:06 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

Hi I run a merge on 156,000 names and got 1300 on autpmerge, and  used Intelli 
pass.  Before I run the merge I checked file properties and wrote down the 
number of names and got 156,468.  After the merge I got 156,468 names.  So what 
is the point of the merge if it does not do any merging.  It still left me with 
1300 names to merge manually.
Also when running the merge it locked up all my ram memory so I could not use 
any of my other screens.  The mouse was frozen.
Ernie

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 3:48 AM, Cathy Pinner  wrote:
Gene,
This check for duplicates as you add is relatively new feature I think added in 
Legacy 8. It's not meant to be a full blown merge involving intellimerge or 
anything else. It's to help prevent you from adding someone who is already 
entered. 

If you don't want to do that and would prefer the fuller merge from time to 
time, then turn it off. It's controlled from Options - Customise 2.1

Cathy

Gene Hutson wrote:


Thank you, I thought maybe perhaps this was a little more modern,

I’m used to the old days where if everything were exact it would/

Could pass directly into intellimerge, or intellipass, if not, it came

back for more options, as this is now, without modification, it seems

kinda silly to have just to pop up and get in the way.

But Thanx for trying.

 &nb sp; Gene

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*Sent: *Monday, March 26, 2018 2:44 AM
*To: *Legacy User Group <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
*Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete
Gene,

That QuickDup search as you enter someone new has very few criteria 
though you can modify them. See Options Ribbon - QuickDup Options.

The full Merge options are more extensive.

Cathy

Gene Hutson wrote:


Thanx Cathy,

It does not appear to take into account birthdates either,

mainly name, it will bring up the exact name but totally different

birthdates, in my experience so far, as much as a 5 year gap.

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Cathy Pinner <mailto:genea k...@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Sunday, March 25, 2018 8:45 PM
*To: *Legacy User Group <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
*Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete
< BR> Gene Hutson,

As a Legacy tester, I'll check this out further. If the merge were
initiated from Merge - Manual Merge it is usually followed by
suggestions of others that probably also need to be merged - though it
does depend on your merge criteria. There are of course default
criteria but you can adjust them.

I'm not altogether surprised that it isn't doing this when merging
from the duplicate dialogue that pops up when you're entering a new
person as I would expect the merged person to inherit all the
relationships of the person you merged into and that's my limited
experience. I rarely add a duplicate and when I do, I usually back out
of that dialogue to do a wider check before using the Manual Merge.

I don't think any of the merge criteria includes the marriage status
of the person.

Cathy

Gene Hutson wrote:


And as a further to earlier, it does not go far enough into the merge

process by taking into account whether he/she was single and

never married, you can check the “never married” box and it will

still ask about duplicates, nor does it take into account death dates.

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Margaret Gagliardi <mailto:megsge...@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Sunday, March 25, 2018 9:46 AM
*To: *Legacy User Group <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
*Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

I have the same problem. And further, any notes that I have in both
memorials are not merged. I have given up on merging and do it all
manually and then deleting one of the memorials. It is reall y
frustrating to have to do it this way

Margaret

On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 9:39 PM, Gene Hutso n mailto:bigfish68...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello Group,

LONGtime Legacy user here, one thing I have noticed with 9

and I just had it happen again, it may find a duplicat

Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

[Gene Hutson]

My point exactly!!

   Would be of tremendous help if it worked the way it should or the
way we think it should, but even with the older versions, it would
not take into account baptismal dates or “abt” dates, so you could
have the same person but nothing would happen, you would have to
do it manually, but even merging manually now, it gives ghost parents,
this IS the main problem now.

   Unlinking from the ghost parent(s) and then relinking to the correct
set is cumbersome at best.

   Gene



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Ernie Anderson
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 8:06 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

Hi I run a merge on 156,000 names and got 1300 on autpmerge, and  used Intelli 
pass.  Before I run the merge I checked file properties and wrote down the 
number of names and got 156,468.  After the merge I got 156,468 names.  So what 
is the point of the merge if it does not do any merging.  It still left me with 
1300 names to merge manually.
Also when running the merge it locked up all my ram memory so I could not use 
any of my other screens.  The mouse was frozen.
Ernie

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 3:48 AM, Cathy Pinner  wrote:
Gene,
This check for duplicates as you add is relatively new feature I think added in 
Legacy 8. It's not meant to be a full blown merge involving intellimerge or 
anything else. It's to help prevent you from adding someone who is already 
entered. 

If you don't want to do that and would prefer the fuller merge from time to 
time, then turn it off. It's controlled from Options - Customise 2.1

Cathy

Gene Hutson wrote:


Thank you, I thought maybe perhaps this was a little more modern,

I’m used to the old days where if everything were exact it would/

Could pass directly into intellimerge, or intellipass, if not, it came

back for more options, as this is now, without modification, it seems

kinda silly to have just to pop up and get in the way.

But Thanx for trying.

 &nb sp; Gene

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for 
Windows 10

*From: *Cathy Pinner <mailto:genea...@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Monday, March 26, 2018 2:44 AM
*To: *Legacy User Group <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
*Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete
Gene,

That QuickDup search as you enter someone new has very few criteria 
though you can modify them. See Options Ribbon - QuickDup Options.

The full Merge options are more extensive.

Cathy

Gene Hutson wrote:


Thanx Cathy,

It does not appear to take into account birthdates either,

mainly name, it will bring up the exact name but totally different

birthdates, in my experience so far, as much as a 5 year gap.

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Cathy Pinner <mailto:genea k...@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Sunday, March 25, 2018 8:45 PM
*To: *Legacy User Group <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
*Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete
< BR> Gene Hutson,

As a Legacy tester, I'll check this out further. If the merge were
initiated from Merge - Manual Merge it is usually followed by
suggestions of others that probably also need to be merged - though it
does depend on your merge criteria. There are of course default
criteria but you can adjust them.

I'm not altogether surprised that it isn't doing this when merging
from the duplicate dialogue that pops up when you're entering a new
person as I would expect the merged person to inherit all the
relationships of the person you merged into and that's my limited
experience. I rarely add a duplicate and when I do, I usually back out
of that dialogue to do a wider check before using the Manual Merge.

I don't think any of the merge criteria includes the marriage status
of the person.

Cathy

Gene Hutson wrote:


And as a further to earlier, it does not go far enough into the merge

process by taking into account whether he/she was single and

never married, you can check the “never married” box and it will

still ask about duplicates, nor does it take into account death dates.

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Margaret Gagliardi <mailto:megsge...@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Sunday, March 25, 2018 9:46 AM
*To: *Legacy User Group <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
*Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

I have the same problem. And further, any notes that I have in both
memorials are not merged. I have given up on merging and do it all
manually and then deleting one of the memorials. It is reall y
frustrating to have to do it this way

Margaret

On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 9:39 PM, Gene Hutso n mailto:bigfish68...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello Group,

LONGtime Legacy user here, one thing I have noticed with 9

and I just had it happen again, it may find a duplicat

Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

[Ernie Anderson]

Hi I run a merge on 156,000 names and got 1300 on autpmerge, and  used
Intelli pass.  Before I run the merge I checked file properties and wrote
down the number of names and got 156,468.  After the merge I got 156,468
names.  So what is the point of the merge if it does not do any merging.
It still left me with 1300 names to merge manually.
Also when running the merge it locked up all my ram memory so I could not
use any of my other screens.  The mouse was frozen.
Ernie

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 3:48 AM, Cathy Pinner  wrote:

> Gene,
> This check for duplicates as you add is relatively new feature I think
> added in Legacy 8. It's not meant to be a full blown merge involving
> intellimerge or anything else. It's to help prevent you from adding someone
> who is already entered.
>
> If you don't want to do that and would prefer the fuller merge from time
> to time, then turn it off. It's controlled from Options - Customise 2.1
>
> Cathy
>
> Gene Hutson wrote:
>
>
> Thank you, I thought maybe perhaps this was a little more modern,
>
> I’m used to the old days where if everything were exact it would/
>
> Could pass directly into intellimerge, or intellipass, if not, it came
>
> back for more options, as this is now, without modification, it seems
>
> kinda silly to have just to pop up and get in the way.
>
> But Thanx for trying.
>
>  &nb sp; Gene
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
> *From: *Cathy Pinner <mailto:genea...@gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Monday, March 26, 2018 2:44 AM
> *To: *Legacy User Group <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete
>
> Gene,
>
> That QuickDup search as you enter someone new has very few criteria
> though you can modify them. See Options Ribbon - QuickDup Options.
>
> The full Merge options are more extensive.
>
> Cathy
>
> Gene Hutson wrote:
>
>
> Thanx Cathy,
>
> It does not appear to take into account birthdates either,
>
> mainly name, it will bring up the exact name but totally different
>
> birthdates, in my experience so far, as much as a 5 year gap.
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
> *From: *Cathy Pinner <mailto:genea k...@gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Sunday, March 25, 2018 8:45 PM
> *To: *Legacy User Group <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete
> < BR> Gene Hutson,
>
> As a Legacy tester, I'll check this out further. If the merge were
> initiated from Merge - Manual Merge it is usually followed by
> suggestions of others that probably also need to be merged - though it
> does depend on your merge criteria. There are of course default
> criteria but you can adjust them.
>
> I'm not altogether surprised that it isn't doing this when merging
> from the duplicate dialogue that pops up when you're entering a new
> person as I would expect the merged person to inherit all the
> relationships of the person you merged into and that's my limited
> experience. I rarely add a duplicate and when I do, I usually back out
> of that dialogue to do a wider check before using the Manual Merge.
>
> I don't think any of the merge criteria includes the marriage status
> of the person.
>
> Cathy
>
> Gene Hutson wrote:
>
>
> And as a further to earlier, it does not go far enough into the merge
>
> process by taking into account whether he/she was single and
>
> never married, you can check the “never married” box and it will
>
> still ask about duplicates, nor does it take into account death dates.
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
> *From: *Margaret Gagliardi <mailto:megsge...@gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Sunday, March 25, 2018 9:46 AM
> *To: *Legacy User Group <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete
>
> I have the same problem. And further, any notes that I have in both
> memorials are not merged. I have given up on merging and do it all
> manually and then deleting one of the memorials. It is reall y
> frustrating to have to do it this way
>
> Margaret
>
> On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 9:39 PM, Gene Hutso n  <mailto:bigfish68...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hello Group,
>
> LONGtime Legacy user here, one thing I have noticed with 9
>
> and I just had it happen again, it may find a duplicate and it
>
> will ask you if this is the same person, if all info is correct and
>
> you go to merge the two, it doesn’t truly merge the 2, it may

Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

[Cathy Pinner]

Gene,
This check for duplicates as you add is relatively new feature I think 
added in Legacy 8. It's not meant to be a full blown merge involving 
intellimerge or anything else. It's to help prevent you from adding 
someone who is already entered.


If you don't want to do that and would prefer the fuller merge from time 
to time, then turn it off. It's controlled from Options - Customise 2.1


Cathy

Gene Hutson wrote:


Thank you, I thought maybe perhaps this was a little more modern,

I’m used to the old days where if everything were exact it would/

Could pass directly into intellimerge, or intellipass, if not, it came

back for more options, as this is now, without modification, it seems

kinda silly to have just to pop up and get in the way.

But Thanx for trying.

Gene

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Cathy Pinner <mailto:genea...@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Monday, March 26, 2018 2:44 AM
*To: *Legacy User Group <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
*Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

Gene,

That QuickDup search as you enter someone new has very few criteria
though you can modify them. See Options Ribbon - QuickDup Options.

The full Merge options are more extensive.

Cathy

Gene Hutson wrote:


Thanx Cathy,

It does not appear to take into account birthdates either,

mainly name, it will bring up the exact name but totally different

birthdates, in my experience so far, as much as a 5 year gap.

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Cathy Pinner <mailto:genea...@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Sunday, March 25, 2018 8:45 PM
*To: *Legacy User Group <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
*Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete
< BR> Gene Hutson,

As a Legacy tester, I'll check this out further. If the merge were
initiated from Merge - Manual Merge it is usually followed by
suggestions of others that probably also need to be merged - though it
does depend on your merge criteria. There are of course default
criteria but you can adjust them.

I'm not altogether surprised that it isn't doing this when merging
from the duplicate dialogue that pops up when you're entering a new
person as I would expect the merged person to inherit all the
relationships of the person you merged into and that's my limited
experience. I rarely add a duplicate and when I do, I usually back out
of that dialogue to do a wider check before using the Manual Merge.

I don't think any of the merge criteria includes the marriage status
of the person.

Cathy

Gene Hutson wrote:


And as a further to earlier, it does not go far enough into the merge

process by taking into account whether he/she was single and

never married, you can check the “never married” box and it will

still ask about duplicates, nor does it take into account death dates.

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Margaret Gagliardi <mailto:megsge...@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Sunday, March 25, 2018 9:46 AM
*To: *Legacy User Group <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
*Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

I have the same problem. And further, any notes that I have in both
memorials are not merged. I have given up on merging and do it all
manually and then deleting one of the memorials. It is really
frustrating to have to do it this way

Margaret

On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 9:39 PM, Gene Hutso n mailto:bigfish68...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello Group,

LONGtime Legacy user here, one thing I have noticed with 9

and I just had it happen again, it may find a duplicate and it

will ask you if this is the same person, if all info is correct and

you go to merge the two, it doesn’t truly merge the 2, it may

or may not merge part way, give you one parent but not the

other, or give that person you just merged with 2 sets of parents,

one obviously the correct set then one set of unknowns.

In the case just now, it asked “is this the same person?”

I verify all info is correct, it merges and then the person you

were working with is now a ½ child to one of the parents,

makes it look as if the mother in this case had an unknown

marriage and now this child is the product of the mother

and the unknown father, whereas she should have been

connected to both parents.

Hoping t his is clear and concise enough to understand.

Thanx,

Gene

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Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

[Gene Hutson]

Thank you, I thought maybe perhaps this was a little more modern,
 I’m used to the old days where if everything were exact it would/
 Could pass directly into intellimerge, or intellipass, if not, it came 
 back for more options, as this is now, without modification, it seems 
 kinda silly to have just to pop up and get in the way.

But Thanx for trying.

   Gene

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Cathy Pinner
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 2:44 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

Gene,

That QuickDup search as you enter someone new has very few criteria though you 
can modify them. See Options Ribbon - QuickDup Options.

The full Merge options are more extensive.

Cathy

Gene Hutson wrote:


Thanx Cathy,

   It does not appear to take into account birthdates either,

    mainly name, it will bring up the exact name but totally different

    birthdates, in my experience so far, as much as a 5 year gap.

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for 
Windows 10

*From: *Cathy Pinner <mailto:genea...@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Sunday, March 25, 2018 8:45 PM
*To: *Legacy User Group <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
*Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete
< BR> Gene Hutson,

As a Legacy tester, I'll check this out further. If the merge were 
initiated from Merge - Manual Merge it is usually followed by 
suggestions of others that probably also need to be merged - though it 
does depend on your merge criteria. There are of course default 
criteria but you can adjust them.

I'm not altogether surprised that it isn't doing this when merging 
from the duplicate dialogue that pops up when you're entering a new 
person as I would expect the merged person to inherit all the 
relationships of the person you merged into and that's my limited 
experience. I rarely add a duplicate and when I do, I usually back out 
of that dialogue to do a wider check before using the Manual Merge.

I don't think any of the merge criteria includes the marriage status 
of the person.

Cathy

Gene Hutson wrote:


And as a further to earlier, it does not go far enough into the merge

process by taking into account whether he/she was single and

never married, you can check the “never married” box and it will

still ask about duplicates, nor does it take into account death dates.

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Margaret Gagliardi <mailto:megsge...@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Sunday, March 25, 2018 9:46 AM
*To: *Legacy User Group <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
*Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

I have the same problem. And further, any notes that I have in both
memorials are not merged. I have given up on merging and do it all
manually and then deleting one of the memorials. It is really
frustrating to have to do it this way

Margaret

On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 9:39 PM, Gene Hutso n mailto:bigfish68...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello Group,

LONGtime Legacy user here, one thing I have noticed with 9

and I just had it happen again, it may find a duplicate and it

will ask you if this is the same person, if all info is correct and

you go to merge the two, it doesn’t truly merge the 2, it may

or may not merge part way, give you one parent but not the

other, or give that person you just merged with 2 sets of parents,

one obviously the correct set then one set of unknowns.

In the case just now, it asked “is this the same person?”

I verify all info is correct, it merges and then the person you

were working with is now a ½ child to one of the parents,

makes it look as if the mother in this case had an unknown

marriage and now this child is the product of the mother

and the unknown father, whereas she should have been

connected to both parents.

Hoping t his is clear and concise enough to understand.

Thanx,

Gene

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for Windows 10


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Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

[Cathy Pinner]

Gene,

That QuickDup search as you enter someone new has very few criteria 
though you can modify them. See Options Ribbon - QuickDup Options.


The full Merge options are more extensive.

Cathy

Gene Hutson wrote:


Thanx Cathy,

It does not appear to take into account birthdates either,

mainly name, it will bring up the exact name but totally different

birthdates, in my experience so far, as much as a 5 year gap.

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Cathy Pinner <mailto:genea...@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Sunday, March 25, 2018 8:45 PM
*To: *Legacy User Group <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
*Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

Gene Hutson,

As a Legacy tester, I'll check this out further. If the merge were
initiated from Merge - Manual Merge it is usually followed by
suggestions of others that probably also need to be merged - though it
does depend on your merge criteria. There are of course default
criteria but you can adjust them.

I'm not altogether surprised that it isn't doing this when merging
from the duplicate dialogue that pops up when you're entering a new
person as I would expect the merged person to inherit all the
relationships of the person you merged into and that's my limited
experience. I rarely add a duplicate and when I do, I usually back out
of that dialogue to do a wider check before using the Manual Merge.

I don't think any of the merge criteria includes the marriage status
of the person.

Cathy

Gene Hutson wrote:


And as a further to earlier, it does not go far enough into the merge

process by taking into account whether he/she was single and

never married, you can check the “never married” box and it will

still ask about duplicates, nor does it take into account death dates.

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Margaret Gagliardi <mailto:megsge...@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Sunday, March 25, 2018 9:46 AM
*To: *Legacy User Group <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
*Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

I have the same problem. And further, any notes that I have in both
memorials are not merged. I have given up on merging and do it all
manually and then deleting one of the memorials. It is really
frustrating to have to do it this way

Margaret

On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 9:39 PM, Gene Hutso n mailto:bigfish68...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello Group,

LONGtime Legacy user here, one thing I have noticed with 9

and I just had it happen again, it may find a duplicate and it

will ask you if this is the same person, if all info is correct and

you go to merge the two, it doesn’t truly merge the 2, it may

or may not merge part way, give you one parent but not the

other, or give that person you just merged with 2 sets of parents,

one obviously the correct set then one set of unknowns.

In the case just now, it asked “is this the same person?”

I verify all info is correct, it merges and then the person you

were working with is now a ½ child to one of the parents,

makes it look as if the mother in this case had an unknown

marriage and now this child is the product of the mother

and the unknown father, whereas she should have been

connected to both parents.

Hoping this is clear and concise enough to understand.

Thanx,

Gene

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Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

[Gene Hutson]

Thanx Cathy,

   It does not appear to take into account birthdates either,
mainly name, it will bring up the exact name but totally different
birthdates, in my experience so far, as much as a 5 year gap.

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From: Cathy Pinner
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 8:45 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

Gene Hutson,

As a Legacy tester, I'll check this out further. If the merge were initiated 
from Merge - Manual Merge it is usually followed by suggestions of others that 
probably also need to be merged - though it does depend on your merge criteria. 
There are of course default criteria but you can adjust them.

I'm not altogether surprised that it isn't doing this when merging from the 
duplicate dialogue that pops up when you're entering a new person as I would 
expect the merged person to inherit all the relationships of the person you 
merged into and that's my limited experience. I rarely add a duplicate and when 
I do, I usually back out of that dialogue to do a wider check before using the 
Manual Merge.

I don't think any of the merge criteria includes the marriage status of the 
person.

Cathy

Gene Hutson wrote:


And as a further to earlier, it does not go far enough into the merge

process by taking into account whether he/she was single and

  never married, you can check the “never married” box and it will

  still ask about duplicates, nor does it take into account death dates.

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Windows 10

*From: *Margaret Gagliardi <mailto:megsge...@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Sunday, March 25, 2018 9:46 AM
*To: *Legacy User Group <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
*Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

I have the same problem. And further, any notes that I have in both 
memorials are not merged. I have given up on merging and do it all 
manually and then deleting one of the memorials. It is really 
frustrating to have to do it this way

Margaret

On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 9:39 PM, Gene Hutso n mailto:bigfish68...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Hello Group,

    LONGtime Legacy user here, one thing I have noticed with 9

    and I just had it happen again, it may find a duplicate and it

    will ask you if this is the same person, if all info is correct and

    you go to merge the two, it doesn’t truly merge the 2, it may

    or may not merge part way, give you one parent but not the

    other, or give that person you just merged with 2 sets of parents,

    one obviously the correct set then one set of unknowns.

    In the case just now, it asked “is this the same person?”

    I verify all info is correct, it merges and then the person you

    were working with is now a ½ child to one of the parents,

    makes it look as if the mother in this case had an unknown

    marriage and now this child is the product of the mother

    and the unknown father, whereas she should have been

    connected to both parents.

    Hoping this is clear and concise enough to understand.

    Thanx,

    Gene

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Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

[Cathy Pinner]

Gene Hutson,

As a Legacy tester, I'll check this out further. If the merge were 
initiated from Merge - Manual Merge it is usually followed by 
suggestions of others that probably also need to be merged - though it 
does depend on your merge criteria. There are of course default criteria 
but you can adjust them.


I'm not altogether surprised that it isn't doing this when merging from 
the duplicate dialogue that pops up when you're entering a new person as 
I would expect the merged person to inherit all the relationships of the 
person you merged into and that's my limited experience. I rarely add a 
duplicate and when I do, I usually back out of that dialogue to do a 
wider check before using the Manual Merge.


I don't think any of the merge criteria includes the marriage status of 
the person.


Cathy

Gene Hutson wrote:


And as a further to earlier, it does not go far enough into the merge

process by taking into account whether he/she was single and

never married, you can check the “never married” box and it will

still ask about duplicates, nor does it take into account death dates.

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *Margaret Gagliardi <mailto:megsge...@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Sunday, March 25, 2018 9:46 AM
*To: *Legacy User Group <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
*Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

I have the same problem. And further, any notes that I have in both
memorials are not merged. I have given up on merging and do it all
manually and then deleting one of the memorials. It is really
frustrating to have to do it this way

Margaret

On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 9:39 PM, Gene Hutson mailto:bigfish68...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello Group,

LONGtime Legacy user here, one thing I have noticed with 9

and I just had it happen again, it may find a duplicate and it

will ask you if this is the same person, if all info is correct and

you go to merge the two, it doesn’t truly merge the 2, it may

or may not merge part way, give you one parent but not the

other, or give that person you just merged with 2 sets of parents,

one obviously the correct set then one set of unknowns.

In the case just now, it asked “is this the same person?”

I verify all info is correct, it merges and then the person you

were working with is now a ½ child to one of the parents,

makes it look as if the mother in this case had an unknown

marriage and now this child is the product of the mother

and the unknown father, whereas she should have been

connected to both parents.

Hoping this is clear and concise enough to understand.

Thanx,

Gene

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Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

[Gene Hutson]

And as a further to earlier, it does not go far enough into the merge
 process by taking into account whether he/she was single and
  never married, you can check the “never married” box and it will
  still ask about duplicates, nor does it take into account death dates.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Margaret Gagliardi
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 9:46 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

I have the same problem.  And further, any notes that I have in both memorials 
are not merged.  I have given up on merging and do it all manually and then 
deleting one of the memorials.  It is really frustrating to have to do it this 
way
Margaret

On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 9:39 PM, Gene Hutson  wrote:
 
Hello Group,
 
   LONGtime Legacy user here, one thing I have noticed with 9
    and I just had it happen again, it may find a duplicate and it
    will ask you if this is the same person, if all info is correct and
    you go to merge the two, it doesn’t truly merge the 2, it may
    or may not merge part way, give you one parent but not the
    other, or give that person you just merged with 2 sets of parents,
    one obviously the correct set then one set of unknowns.
 
   In the case just now, it asked “is this the same person?”
   I verify all info is correct, it merges and then the person you
    were working with is now a ½ child to one of the parents,
    makes it look as if the mother in this case had an unknown
    marriage and now this child is the product of the mother
    and the unknown father, whereas she should have been
    connected to both parents.
 
   Hoping this is clear and concise enough to understand.
 
   Thanx,
 
  Gene
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

[Margaret Gagliardi]

I have the same problem.  And further, any notes that I have in both
memorials are not merged.  I have given up on merging and do it all
manually and then deleting one of the memorials.  It is really frustrating
to have to do it this way
Margaret

On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 9:39 PM, Gene Hutson  wrote:

>
>
> Hello Group,
>
>
>
>LONGtime Legacy user here, one thing I have noticed with 9
>
> and I just had it happen again, it may find a duplicate and it
>
> will ask you if this is the same person, if all info is correct and
>
> you go to merge the two, it doesn’t truly merge the 2, it may
>
> or may not merge part way, give you one parent but not the
>
> other, or give that person you just merged with 2 sets of parents,
>
> one obviously the correct set then one set of unknowns.
>
>
>
>In the case just now, it asked “is this the same person?”
>
>I verify all info is correct, it merges and then the person you
>
> were working with is now a ½ child to one of the parents,
>
> makes it look as if the mother in this case had an unknown
>
> marriage and now this child is the product of the mother
>
> and the unknown father, whereas she should have been
>
> connected to both parents.
>
>
>
>Hoping this is clear and concise enough to understand.
>
>
>
>Thanx,
>
>
>
>   Gene
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
>
>
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[LegacyUG] merge process incomplete

[Gene Hutson]

Hello Group,

   LONGtime Legacy user here, one thing I have noticed with 9
and I just had it happen again, it may find a duplicate and it
will ask you if this is the same person, if all info is correct and
you go to merge the two, it doesn’t truly merge the 2, it may
or may not merge part way, give you one parent but not the
other, or give that person you just merged with 2 sets of parents,
one obviously the correct set then one set of unknowns.

   In the case just now, it asked “is this the same person?”
   I verify all info is correct, it merges and then the person you
were working with is now a ½ child to one of the parents,
makes it look as if the mother in this case had an unknown
marriage and now this child is the product of the mother
and the unknown father, whereas she should have been
connected to both parents.

   Hoping this is clear and concise enough to understand.

   Thanx,

  Gene

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Re: [LegacyUG] Merge Duplicates - story of my success

[Wendy Howard]

I used Microsoft Publisher.

Once I'd created the chart, I set the magnification so that the chart
was as big as it could be and still see the whole thing (to maximise the
resolution in the subsequent image) and then  used the Windows Snipping
Tool to capture and save the image.

Before that, in Legacy, I used the Relationship Calculator to show the
relationship/path between the duplicate man and my partner, and then
again to show the duplicate man and me, and pieced the chart together In
Publisher box and line by box and line.  A certain amount of copy and
paste of text boxes and lines was employed once I'd worked out what I
was doing.  And I used Publisher's inbuilt guide lines to help keep
things in neat lines (and turned those off before taking the image).

I could do the same in a spreadsheet if I had to.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy

Marianne Szabo wrote on 28/08/2015 08:21:
> I'd like to know how you created the illustration of the multiple 
> relationships!  I have a similar situation in my database, but Legacy 
> Charting won't show it the way yours does.  Marianne
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 12:19 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Merge Duplicates - story of my success
>
> Do you know how much I love Legacy? Today, I have confirmed that my partner 
> and I are connected, other than via our own relationship, through four 
> marriages - and I'd have never found this if it weren't for Legacy.
>
> You can see an illustration of this relationship here -
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ws03zjvtowp18dc/Wendy%27s%20relationship%20chart.PNG?dl=0
>
> I was a little bored one day a while back, and started playing around a bit 
> on the computer. Ended up running Merge Duplicates in Legacy, and after 
> working through many false matches (due to having 'placeholder'
> names for many people who I know exist but don't know their names yet) struck 
> this potential match where one Robert Mills had parents recorded, and the 
> other had a wife - but they both had the same birth and death dates. One was 
> connected to me, the other to himself.
>
> My sources showed I'd gathered the data for the two men from different 
> places/people. I couldn't find out via those routes if anyone had since 
> connected the two, so I purchased a copy of the marriage registration for the 
> husband and wife, which would name the parents of both parties.
> That arrived by email today, and voilà ! - it's one and the same man.
>
> While I've known all along that this could be a possibility - New Zealand is 
> a very small country and I'm not ruling out a closer connection, since 
> there's a whole lot more to be researched in both our families - this has 
> come as a big surprise.
>
> I have had the Merge Duplicates process on hold since I found this, just in 
> case I wanted to undo that merge when I knew the truth (having jumped ahead 
> and done it before thinking about what I was doing, LOL!!), and each time I 
> open my database I'm reminded that it's on hold (and do I want to continue 
> with the merge or keep it on hold?), so now I can move on and continue 
> looking for other potential duplicates.
>
> And I would never have known about this if I didn't "go wide" and look beyond 
> the immediate ancestors. I made this connection largely because I made 
> contact with a descendant of the 'middle' family in the chart linked above, 
> who was interested in his connections with my family, and I'd added some of 
> his line to my database so I could place him there.
> That effort has paid off in a major way. :-)
>
> Wendy




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RE: [LegacyUG] Merge Duplicates - story of my success

[Marianne Szabo]

I'd like to know how you created the illustration of the multiple 
relationships!  I have a similar situation in my database, but Legacy Charting 
won't show it the way yours does.  Marianne

-Original Message-
From: Wendy Howard [mailto:wendy.how...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 12:19 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Merge Duplicates - story of my success

Do you know how much I love Legacy? Today, I have confirmed that my partner and 
I are connected, other than via our own relationship, through four marriages - 
and I'd have never found this if it weren't for Legacy.

You can see an illustration of this relationship here -
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ws03zjvtowp18dc/Wendy%27s%20relationship%20chart.PNG?dl=0

I was a little bored one day a while back, and started playing around a bit on 
the computer. Ended up running Merge Duplicates in Legacy, and after working 
through many false matches (due to having 'placeholder'
names for many people who I know exist but don't know their names yet) struck 
this potential match where one Robert Mills had parents recorded, and the other 
had a wife - but they both had the same birth and death dates. One was 
connected to me, the other to himself.

My sources showed I'd gathered the data for the two men from different 
places/people. I couldn't find out via those routes if anyone had since 
connected the two, so I purchased a copy of the marriage registration for the 
husband and wife, which would name the parents of both parties.
That arrived by email today, and voilà ! - it's one and the same man.

While I've known all along that this could be a possibility - New Zealand is a 
very small country and I'm not ruling out a closer connection, since there's a 
whole lot more to be researched in both our families - this has come as a big 
surprise.

I have had the Merge Duplicates process on hold since I found this, just in 
case I wanted to undo that merge when I knew the truth (having jumped ahead and 
done it before thinking about what I was doing, LOL!!), and each time I open my 
database I'm reminded that it's on hold (and do I want to continue with the 
merge or keep it on hold?), so now I can move on and continue looking for other 
potential duplicates.

And I would never have known about this if I didn't "go wide" and look beyond 
the immediate ancestors. I made this connection largely because I made contact 
with a descendant of the 'middle' family in the chart linked above, who was 
interested in his connections with my family, and I'd added some of his line to 
my database so I could place him there.
That effort has paid off in a major way. :-)

Wendy





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[LegacyUG] Merge Duplicates - story of my success

[Wendy Howard]

Do you know how much I love Legacy? Today, I have confirmed that my
partner and I are connected, other than via our own relationship,
through four marriages - and I'd have never found this if it weren't for
Legacy.

You can see an illustration of this relationship here -
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ws03zjvtowp18dc/Wendy%27s%20relationship%20chart.PNG?dl=0

I was a little bored one day a while back, and started playing around a
bit on the computer. Ended up running Merge Duplicates in Legacy, and
after working through many false matches (due to having 'placeholder'
names for many people who I know exist but don't know their names yet)
struck this potential match where one Robert Mills had parents recorded,
and the other had a wife - but they both had the same birth and death
dates. One was connected to me, the other to himself.

My sources showed I'd gathered the data for the two men from different
places/people. I couldn't find out via those routes if anyone had since
connected the two, so I purchased a copy of the marriage registration
for the husband and wife, which would name the parents of both parties.
That arrived by email today, and voilà! - it's one and the same man.

While I've known all along that this could be a possibility - New
Zealand is a very small country and I'm not ruling out a closer
connection, since there's a whole lot more to be researched in both our
families - this has come as a big surprise.

I have had the Merge Duplicates process on hold since I found this, just
in case I wanted to undo that merge when I knew the truth (having jumped
ahead and done it before thinking about what I was doing, LOL!!), and
each time I open my database I'm reminded that it's on hold (and do I
want to continue with the merge or keep it on hold?), so now I can move
on and continue looking for other potential duplicates.

And I would never have known about this if I didn't "go wide" and look
beyond the immediate ancestors. I made this connection largely because I
made contact with a descendant of the 'middle' family in the chart
linked above, who was interested in his connections with my family, and
I'd added some of his line to my database so I could place him there.
That effort has paid off in a major way. :-)

Wendy




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re: [LegacyUG] Merge Idividuals loses Internet Website

[Jim Terry/Support]

Richard,

I have tested this problem, but I cannot duplicate it. My Internet Website
links attached to Event sources are merging correctly from the right person
into the left person and the links in the event Source Media Galleries work
after merging. I have a couple of suggestions:

1. Make sure that you are double-clicking on the Internet Website icon in
the Source Media Gallery for it to open.
2. Make sure that you have a good link.
3. If the link icons still do not work try a clean re-installation of
Legacy. Please see the article "Uninstall - how to do a complete and
totally clean removal of Legacy 8.0" at
http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00926. To do a fresh
download of Legacy Family Tree 8.0 Deluxe, please visit
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/DownloadNewLegacy8Deluxe.asp and use your
Legacy 8 customer number to unlock the deluxe features.

This re-installation process will wipe out any customized setting you have
made. If you want to keep them, please see
http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00983 for the steps to back
them up. (Be aware that sometimes it's the customized settings that are the
cause of a problem and restoring may bring the problem back.)

Jim
Legacy Technical Support



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> From: "Richard Van Wasshnova" 
> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 9:56 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Merge Idividuals loses Internet Website
>
> I recently merged two Individuals. The one on the right had 2 census
> events with source media being Internet Website (Family Search).
> I copy All from Right to Left Individual then merge.
> The resulting Individual has the 2 census events with the Internet
> Website icon showing but when I click on the Icon nothing is there.
>
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[LegacyUG] Merge Idividuals loses Internet Website

[Richard Van Wasshnova]

I recently merged two Individuals. The one on the right had 2 census
events with source media being Internet Website (Family Search).
I copy All from Right to Left Individual then merge.
The resulting Individual has the 2 census events with the Internet
Website icon showing but when I click on the Icon nothing is there.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Merge problem in Legacy 7.5

[JV Leavitt]

Thank you Michele, for providing what looks like the right solution.  I
was only making an observation from my experience.  I do think it would
be well for John to run file maintenance, at least after the merge, if
he hasn't done so already.

Joseph Leavitt


On 12/3/2013 6:54 PM, Michele/Support wrote:
>
> John,
>
> In the Family View (husband on left, wife on right), click the first
> icon under the husband (spouses icon).  Unlink one of the spouses.  I
> would check the wife too to make sure she doesn’t have an extra
> husband.  If you are lucky, unlinking the extra spouse will fix the
> children.  If not, it is just a matter of linking them in the right place.
>
> Michele
>
> Technical Support
>
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>
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> *From:*John Bernacki [mailto:johnberna...@tadaust.org.au]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 3, 2013 8:27 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Merge problem in Legacy 7.5
>
> I had 2 unlinked families in the same file. Recently I finally found
> proof they were related so proceeded to the merge a husband and wife
> in family A, with the equivalent couple in family B.  I had not used
> the merge tool before and found it a bit confusing. After several
> attempts, all of the relationships appeared correct in the family
> views, so I saved the merge.
>
> I have since found that the chronology view and Legacy charting shows
> the husband married twice to the same wife (everything identical
> including RINs). Also, Legacy charts displays 2 identical sets of
> their children.
>
> Is there an easy way to fix this? If not, would deleting the wife, re
> adding her and then relinking all her relationships work, or only
> confuse things more? I am in a “hole” and do not want to dig it any
> deeper.
>
> Regards,
>
> John
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Merge problem in Legacy 7.5

[Michele/Support]

John,

In the Family View (husband on left, wife on right), click the first icon under 
the husband (spouses icon).  Unlink one of the spouses.  I would check the wife 
too to make sure she doesn’t have an extra husband.  If you are lucky, 
unlinking the extra spouse will fix the children.  If not, it is just a matter 
of linking them in the right place.



Michele

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From: John Bernacki [mailto:johnberna...@tadaust.org.au]
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 8:27 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Merge problem in Legacy 7.5



I had 2 unlinked families in the same file. Recently I finally found proof they 
were related so proceeded to the merge a husband and wife in family A, with the 
equivalent couple in family B.  I had not used the merge tool before and found 
it a bit confusing. After several attempts, all of the relationships appeared 
correct in the family views, so I saved the merge.

I have since found that the chronology view and Legacy charting shows the 
husband married twice to the same wife (everything identical including RINs). 
Also, Legacy charts displays 2 identical sets of their children.

Is there an easy way to fix this? If not, would deleting the wife, re adding 
her and then relinking all her relationships work, or only confuse things more? 
I am in a “hole” and do not want to dig it any deeper.

Regards,

John




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Re: [LegacyUG] Merge problem in Legacy 7.5

[JV Leavitt]

I've found that my file would sometimes have strange anomalies after a
merge if I didn't run the file maintenance options before and after the
merge. As long as I abide by that principle, I have no such trouble.

Joseph Leavitt


On 12/3/2013 5:26 PM, John Bernacki wrote:
>
> I had 2 unlinked families in the same file. Recently I finally found
> proof they were related so proceeded to the merge a husband and wife
> in family A, with the equivalent couple in family B.I had not used the
> merge tool before and found it a bit confusing. After several
> attempts, all of the relationships appeared correct in the family
> views, so I saved the merge.
>
> I have since found that the chronology view and Legacy charting shows
> the husband married twice to the same wife (everything identical
> including RINs). Also, Legacy charts displays 2 identical sets of
> their children.
>
> Is there an easy way to fix this? If not, would deleting the wife, re
> adding her and then relinking all her relationships work, or only
> confuse things more? I am in a “hole” and do not want to dig it any
> deeper.
>
> Regards,
>
> John
>
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Merge problem in Legacy 7.5

[John Bernacki]

I had 2 unlinked families in the same file. Recently I finally found proof they 
were related so proceeded to the merge a husband and wife in family A, with the 
equivalent couple in family B.  I had not used the merge tool before and found 
it a bit confusing. After several attempts, all of the relationships appeared 
correct in the family views, so I saved the merge.

I have since found that the chronology view and Legacy charting shows the 
husband married twice to the same wife (everything identical including RINs). 
Also, Legacy charts displays 2 identical sets of their children.

Is there an easy way to fix this? If not, would deleting the wife, re adding 
her and then relinking all her relationships work, or only confuse things more? 
I am in a “hole” and do not want to dig it any deeper.

Regards,

John



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Re: [LegacyUG] Merge ALL into one very confused

[elizabeth]

Thank you for your helpful suggestions. I appreciate it. I think I have a
lot of work ahead of me..

Elizabeth


On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Ward Walker  wrote:

>   Elizabeth,
>
> There was an LUG discussion in April about duplicate searching, and
> another last month on the web page about the new feature for instant
> duplicate checking. You mention that you used Intellishare, but the
> problems might be with the candidate duplicates that are presented to you
> in that feature. If there are differences in the names of the individuals –
> even subtle differences – then often Legacy will not bring them to your
> attention as potential duplicates. You can experiment with the settings for
> this to see if it helps a little. (I have asked Millennia for future
> enhancements in this area.)
>
> After you go through the merge process, have a look for undetected
> duplicates. One way is to look at the name list. Once you find a duplicate,
> you can invoke the manual merge function for just this pair of individuals.
> Doing that often brings up new candidates for merging, for related
> individuals, so you end up sorting out multiple duplicates.
>
> I would be careful about deleting the family files that you have merged,
> until you are really certain that you have everything in your new, combined
> file. A suggestion is to keep the old family file (or a backup file of it),
> but to rename it so that you can see exactly what it represents and not
> confuse it any further with the new, active file.
>
>   Ward
>
>  *From:* elizabeth 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 14, 2013 8:58 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Merge ALL into one very confused
>
>  Hi group,
>
> I would like to merge ALL my separate Legacy family files into one big
> file (they are all the same family)I am finding it easier to work with
> it that way, for me.
>
> I read back through the archives of this group to learn all I could about
> doing this, but I'm having problems.
>
> I created a 'new' family file to begin with. I then imported the most
> recent backup of the main family file I had been working with the most, to
> use as the 'base'.
>
> But a couple of things are happening that I don't understand
>
> 1) When I tried to import a family file that I had kept separately for one
> particular group of the family, it 'doubled' the information and put the
> people in twice. It showed the wife as having 2 husbands and 2 sets of
> children and the husband having one set of stepchildren and 1 set of
> children even though both sets are all the same people. What did I do
> wrong? I used the Intellishare feature.
>
> 2) 'Some' of the people who were imported from a different family file
> were marked with a Tag even though I had not tagged them. How did that
> happen?
>
> 3) I want to make absolutely sure that I get all the notes, research, etc.
> into this new family file but there are so many backup files on my
> computer that I can't figure out which ones to import. Do I have to import
> every one of them and compare them in order to make sure I have everything?
> That would take a long time to do!
>
> Even though most of the family files I want to merge into this new one are
> all the same people, I am finding that the files contain lots of different
> information. I now think that many times when I opened Legacy to add info,
> I was actually opening different files...not the same one all the time,
> because I wasn't always using the same computer. I had Legacy on so may
> different computers over the years as well as copies on flash drives that I
> am 'swimming in' lots of different copies!! So I am finding info in old
> files that isn't in the most recent backup.
>
> 4) After I import a family file into this new family file I just created,
> is it safe to delete it so I ca get rid of most of the ones on my computer
> and sort of 'start over'?
>
>
>
> How do I get all this merged---from all my multitude of backups on various
> computers and flash drives--- into one family file???
>
> Thanks!
> Elizabeth
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Merge ALL into one very confused

[Ward Walker]

Elizabeth,

There was an LUG discussion in April about duplicate searching, and another 
last month on the web page about the new feature for instant duplicate 
checking. You mention that you used Intellishare, but the problems might be 
with the candidate duplicates that are presented to you in that feature. If 
there are differences in the names of the individuals – even subtle differences 
– then often Legacy will not bring them to your attention as potential 
duplicates. You can experiment with the settings for this to see if it helps a 
little. (I have asked Millennia for future enhancements in this area.)

After you go through the merge process, have a look for undetected duplicates. 
One way is to look at the name list. Once you find a duplicate, you can invoke 
the manual merge function for just this pair of individuals. Doing that often 
brings up new candidates for merging, for related individuals, so you end up 
sorting out multiple duplicates.

I would be careful about deleting the family files that you have merged, until 
you are really certain that you have everything in your new, combined file. A 
suggestion is to keep the old family file (or a backup file of it), but to 
rename it so that you can see exactly what it represents and not confuse it any 
further with the new, active file.

  Ward

From: elizabeth
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 8:58 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Merge ALL into one very confused

Hi group,


I would like to merge ALL my separate Legacy family files into one big file 
(they are all the same family)I am finding it easier to work with it that 
way, for me.


I read back through the archives of this group to learn all I could about doing 
this, but I'm having problems.


I created a 'new' family file to begin with. I then imported the most recent 
backup of the main family file I had been working with the most, to use as the 
'base'.


But a couple of things are happening that I don't understand


1) When I tried to import a family file that I had kept separately for one 
particular group of the family, it 'doubled' the information and put the people 
in twice. It showed the wife as having 2 husbands and 2 sets of children and 
the husband having one set of stepchildren and 1 set of children even though 
both sets are all the same people. What did I do wrong? I used the Intellishare 
feature.


2) 'Some' of the people who were imported from a different family file were 
marked with a Tag even though I had not tagged them. How did that happen?


3) I want to make absolutely sure that I get all the notes, research, etc. into 
this new family file but there are so many backup files on my computer that 
I can't figure out which ones to import. Do I have to import every one of them 
and compare them in order to make sure I have everything? That would take a 
long time to do!

Even though most of the family files I want to merge into this new one are all 
the same people, I am finding that the files contain lots of different 
information. I now think that many times when I opened Legacy to add info, I 
was actually opening different files...not the same one all the time, because I 
wasn't always using the same computer. I had Legacy on so may different 
computers over the years as well as copies on flash drives that I am 'swimming 
in' lots of different copies!! So I am finding info in old files that isn't in 
the most recent backup.


4) After I import a family file into this new family file I just created, is it 
safe to delete it so I ca get rid of most of the ones on my computer and sort 
of 'start over'?





How do I get all this merged---from all my multitude of backups on various 
computers and flash drives--- into one family file???


Thanks!

Elizabeth







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[LegacyUG] Merge ALL into one very confused

[elizabeth]

Hi group,

I would like to merge ALL my separate Legacy family files into one big file
(they are all the same family)I am finding it easier to work with it
that way, for me.

I read back through the archives of this group to learn all I could about
doing this, but I'm having problems.

I created a 'new' family file to begin with. I then imported the most
recent backup of the main family file I had been working with the most, to
use as the 'base'.

But a couple of things are happening that I don't understand

1) When I tried to import a family file that I had kept separately for one
particular group of the family, it 'doubled' the information and put the
people in twice. It showed the wife as having 2 husbands and 2 sets of
children and the husband having one set of stepchildren and 1 set of
children even though both sets are all the same people. What did I do
wrong? I used the Intellishare feature.

2) 'Some' of the people who were imported from a different family file were
marked with a Tag even though I had not tagged them. How did that happen?

3) I want to make absolutely sure that I get all the notes, research, etc.
into this new family file but there are so many backup files on my
computer that I can't figure out which ones to import. Do I have to import
every one of them and compare them in order to make sure I have everything?
That would take a long time to do!

Even though most of the family files I want to merge into this new one are
all the same people, I am finding that the files contain lots of different
information. I now think that many times when I opened Legacy to add info,
I was actually opening different files...not the same one all the time,
because I wasn't always using the same computer. I had Legacy on so may
different computers over the years as well as copies on flash drives that I
am 'swimming in' lots of different copies!! So I am finding info in old
files that isn't in the most recent backup.

4) After I import a family file into this new family file I just created,
is it safe to delete it so I ca get rid of most of the ones on my computer
and sort of 'start over'?



How do I get all this merged---from all my multitude of backups on various
computers and flash drives--- into one family file???

Thanks!
Elizabeth



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Re: [LegacyUG] Merge function

[Sherry/Support]

First of all, you *import* one file into another by going to File >
Import from... > Legacy file.

After importing, you'll be given a prompt to go to Merge or to the
Fam/Pedigree view.  Go to the Merge so you can merge the duplicates.
All the information will be combined.

You want to back up the Family File before importing the new one and
before starting the merge. Go to File > Backup Family File to do the
backup.

BTW, the IntelliShare instructions that RG sent are only good if you
have send a file to another person (or computer) and it has been
returned to you with changes. Otherwise there are no comparable
"IntelliShare numbers" to compare during.

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Kathy Meyer  wrote:
> What is the best way to merge two Legacy files without losing information or
> causing duplication?  I accidentally opened an old file awhile back and I
> have no idea what I may have changed without realizing I'd been using the
> wrong one.
>
> There are about 8000 total inidividuals in the files.  It's not so much
> additional inidividuals being added that I'm worried about as I am concerned
> about individual details and sourcing that may have been added.
>
> Also I may have added new master sources with individual source details.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Merge function

[R G Strong-genes]

The best one would be an IntelliShare merge:
Sharing Research Tasks in Legacy: Using IntelliShare

by David Berdan

President, Millennia Corp.

The popularity of the Internet and e-mail has simplified many aspects of 
genealogical research. Today it is easier than ever to search through hundreds 
of millions of records online and on numerous CD-ROMs in a matter of seconds to 
find your relatives. Many of these records include information from other 
people researching the same lines you are. You can quickly add hundreds or 
thousands of new ancestors to your family file. Files can be e-mailed back and 
forth in minutes. But with this great boon to research comes the challenge of 
coordinating your efforts with others. Many people have formed family 
organizations and have assigned different lines to various members of the 
groups. How does everyone stay in sync?

Legacy has a feature called IntelliShare that makes it easy for groups of two 
or more people to coordinate their works and stay caught up on each other's 
changes.

Here is how IntelliShare works:

Form a research group of two or more people. (Each must be using Legacy.) One 
person in the group is designated as the "Keeper of the Records" (Keeper for 
short). This person keeps the master Family File. Legacy automatically marks 
all the records in the Master Family File with a serial number that uniquely 
identifies each individual. The Keeper now sends a copy of the Family File to 
all the other people participating in the group.

Any or all members of the group can make changes to existing records, delete or 
unlink records, or add new records to the family file. The Keeper can also make 
changes and additions to the master file.

After an agreed upon interval of time, all members of the group return a copy 
of the family file to the Keeper for merging and reconciliation.

The Keeper then follows this procedure:

Import all copies of the family file into the master copy (after making a 
backup of course).

Press the Merge button and choose Find Duplicates.

>From the Merge Options window, click on the Special Searches tab and choose 
>the IntelliShare option.

Press the Continue button in the upper right corner of the Merge Options 
window. Legacy searches for all records with matching IntelliShare values and 
automatically merges those that have exactly the same information. At the end 
of this process Legacy displays the records where one or more persons have made 
changes. Legacy also looks at all surrounding links when deciding to merge. If 
the parents, spouses or children are different in any way, the two individuals 
are displayed along with a message describing the situation. All these messages 
are also saved in a file called MERGE.LOG. Legacy offers to display this file 
at the end of the merge process.

The only records the Keeper has to look at and merge together are the ones that 
have been changed by someone in the group.

At the end of the merge process, a list of any newly added individuals is 
displayed.

After the merge is complete, the Keeper sends a new copy of the family file 
back to the other group members for more changes and additions.

Legacy's IntelliShare greatly reduces the drudgery involved when going through 
the typical match-merge process needed to combine two or more files.





5-513


From: Kathy Meyer
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 6:56 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Merge function

What is the best way to merge two Legacy files without losing information or 
causing duplication?  I accidentally opened an old file awhile back and I have 
no idea what I may have changed without realizing I'd been using the wrong one.

There are about 8000 total inidividuals in the files.  It's not so much 
additional inidividuals being added that I'm worried about as I am concerned 
about individual details and sourcing that may have been added.

Also I may have added new master sources with individual source details.

Thanks for your help everyone! Kathy


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[LegacyUG] Merge function

[Kathy Meyer]

What is the best way to merge two Legacy files without losing information
or causing duplication?  I accidentally opened an old file awhile back and
I have no idea what I may have changed without realizing I'd been using the
wrong one.

There are about 8000 total inidividuals in the files.  It's not so much
additional inidividuals being added that I'm worried about as I am
concerned about individual details and sourcing that may have been added.

Also I may have added new master sources with individual source details.

Thanks for your help everyone! Kathy



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Re: [LegacyUG] Merge

[Ron Taylor]

The missing numbers may have been from deleted records.  As a general rule, I 
always run a check/repair before any merging.  That file maintenance routine 
may fix any of the missing numbers and other database structure problems so 
they won't affect the merge.  If check/repair does not report any trouble with 
missing numbers, you should be good to go.
Ron Taylor



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Re: [LegacyUG] Merge

[Sam Franc]

Thank you.
I finally got to the tail.
One thing happened at the end.
A message came that said it could not find 2 numbers.
I looked at the numbers.
There were 4 numbers missing.
Does that mean anything?
Sam

On 1/27/2013 6:34 AM, Ron Taylor wrote:
> Carl and Brian gave a very good explanation.  You are essentially trying to 
> get the head of the snake to reach the tail but for a time the snake keeps 
> growing.  One very important thing to notice is that when the merge process 
> reaches those individuals which have been added to the stack, there will be 
> additional information shown in the top blue bar of the merge window to 
> indicate why those two people are being compared.  When a merge is abandoned, 
> those people added to the stack may not be automatically found as duplicates. 
>  That is a good reason to never abandon a merge in process but always finish 
> it.
>
> There is one other minor flaw in the merge routine that users should avoid.  
> Normally, if you close a merge the program will offer to continue it later 
> and that works except in one case.  If you close a merge when the very last 
> set of possible duplicates is being displayed, you will not be able to return 
> to the merge and finish that last one.  For example, if it shows 147 of 147 
> and you click on close then later try to return to finish the merge, that 
> last one will not be presented.  I hope the programmers eventually fix this 
> "end-of-sequence" logic error.
> Ron Taylor
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Re: [LegacyUG] Merge

[Sam Franc]

Thank you everyone for your good explanations.
Sam
On 1/26/2013 3:17 PM, Carl Cox wrote:
>
> < The longer I work at it the farther apart I seem to get.
> I am now at 4015 of 4331, 316 apart.
> It started at 2600 of 2800, only 200 apart.
> Am I doing something wrong?
> I know you can't tell.
> But it all seems very strange.
> Sam>>
>
> Legacy's merge feature is one of the main reasons I am a fan. Before Legacy,
> to merge two files (you should look at the GEDCOMs before you merge, and
> clean up locations, names, sources - whatever - in the form of files, then
> drag and drop) I would have the program find duplicates, then present them
> to me. There was a specified number they found that did not change, but only
> about half of the merged were found. I would look at each merge and see what
> other family members needed merging, then write down the RIN numbers of the
> pair.
>
> Legacy took care of that. Now, when I do a drag and drop on two files that
> contain much of the same people, I will manually merge one couple. Legacy
> looks around at all the relatives, and tells you how many more merges it has
> found, so the number left to merge continues to grow until it runs out of
> duplicates. As I did not search for duplicates, sometimes there are
> unconnected individuals that can be found that way. Also I always scan the
> name list to pick up the occasional duplicate that computers find difficult
> to pick. So your experience is doing exactly right.
>
> Carl
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Merge

[Carl Cox]

<>

Legacy's merge feature is one of the main reasons I am a fan. Before Legacy,
to merge two files (you should look at the GEDCOMs before you merge, and
clean up locations, names, sources - whatever - in the form of files, then
drag and drop) I would have the program find duplicates, then present them
to me. There was a specified number they found that did not change, but only
about half of the merged were found. I would look at each merge and see what
other family members needed merging, then write down the RIN numbers of the
pair.

Legacy took care of that. Now, when I do a drag and drop on two files that
contain much of the same people, I will manually merge one couple. Legacy
looks around at all the relatives, and tells you how many more merges it has
found, so the number left to merge continues to grow until it runs out of
duplicates. As I did not search for duplicates, sometimes there are
unconnected individuals that can be found that way. Also I always scan the
name list to pick up the occasional duplicate that computers find difficult
to pick. So your experience is doing exactly right.

Carl




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[LegacyUG] Merge

[Tony Rolfe]

What is probably happening is best illustrated by a simple example.
Assume you have two small GEDCOMs with 4 generations with 2 kids per
generation.  Assume, also that legacy can only recognise one possible
pair of people to offer as a potential merge.  You have 1 of 1 with none
to go.

You now tell Legacy that these two really are the same person.  Legacy
merges them.  Now it considers their spouses and parents and kids as
possible merges, lets say there are 6 new possible merges.  Legacy now
picks one to offer you and says 2 of 7, 5 to go.

If you merge these two people, their family members enter the fun and
the numbers will increase again.

Eventually, once you have merged enough, the numbers will start to come
down.

Cheers

Tony



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[LegacyUG] Merge

[Sam Franc]

I am tryong to merge two Gedcoms.
The longer I work at it the farther apart I seem to get.
I am now at 4015 of 4331, 316 apart.
It started at 2600 of 2800, only 200 apart.
Am I doing something wrong?
I know you can't tell.
But it all seems very strange.
Sam



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Re: [LegacyUG] Merge Problems

[James Cook]

On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 8:07 AM, William Boswell  wrote:
> If you're talking about merging people, I've noticed when merging two people 
> together that Legacy will delete the events not selected.  I had hoped with a 
> merge that all events, even duplicates, would be merged into the one person.  
> I've found that it's better to do a manual edit within the merge screen for 
> both the left and right people.
>

That is the experience I had.

> In another program that I won't mention, it merges both the people together 
> retaining all the information.  That is what a merge should do.
>

That was my expectation.  Boy was I wrong!


> Make sure you backup everything before doing a merge or any other procedure 
> that could result in a disaster.  Legacy is good about prompting us for that.
>

Yes, I'm not always good about that, but I did in this case.



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RE: [LegacyUG] Merge Problems

[William Boswell]

If you're talking about merging people, I've noticed when merging two people 
together that Legacy will delete the events not selected.  I had hoped with a 
merge that all events, even duplicates, would be merged into the one person.  
I've found that it's better to do a manual edit within the merge screen for 
both the left and right people.

In another program that I won't mention, it merges both the people together 
retaining all the information.  That is what a merge should do.

Make sure you backup everything before doing a merge or any other procedure 
that could result in a disaster.  Legacy is good about prompting us for that.

Bill Boswell

-Original Message-
From: James Cook [mailto:jc1...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 8:51 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Merge Problems

I've gone to the help file on this one.  The process they outline is
to import all data into one family file.  I was merging from one into
another.  They make a statement that when merging the right into the
left, that the right is deleted.  This is fine when merging duplicates
in a single file, but not at all good when pulling in from a separate
file.  I believe that is the cause of loosing data.  Now I know, and
won't make that mistake again.  Even so, I don't believe software
should allow me to mess up my source without so much as a warning.  If
it is not recommended to merge from one fine into another, then the
software shouldn't allow me to do so or, at the very least, explain
the dangers before proceeding.





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Re: [LegacyUG] Merge Problems

[James Cook]

I've gone to the help file on this one.  The process they outline is
to import all data into one family file.  I was merging from one into
another.  They make a statement that when merging the right into the
left, that the right is deleted.  This is fine when merging duplicates
in a single file, but not at all good when pulling in from a separate
file.  I believe that is the cause of loosing data.  Now I know, and
won't make that mistake again.  Even so, I don't believe software
should allow me to mess up my source without so much as a warning.  If
it is not recommended to merge from one fine into another, then the
software shouldn't allow me to do so or, at the very least, explain
the dangers before proceeding.



On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:26 PM, James Cook  wrote:
> I expect loss of data via GEDCOM.  What I did not expect is to export
> a GEDCOM and have date removed from my master file.  Or, to merge into
> a new family file and have data removed from the master file.  I did
> not want or expect any edits to the master file, that is why I created
> a new one to merge into.  I do not understand why this happened.
>
> My question here is specifically why did my master file get corrupted?
>  My understanding is that I was making edits to a completely separate
> file and only pulling data in from the original.  I did not ever see
> an option that was to pull the data in and then delete from the
> source!?!?!?!?!
>
>
> If this is how the merge works, then I'll not be using it again either.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Merge Problems

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

It is in the past. Just offering a warning for others.
Rich in LA CA

--- On Tue, 1/11/11, Mike Fry  wrote:

> From: Mike Fry 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Merge Problems
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2011, 1:29 AM
> On 2011/01/11 08:33, RICHARD
> SCHULTHIES wrote:
> > But each time I moved my DB to a new computer, it
> changed all the
> > modfied/added dates to the now store it elsewhere
> input date. I had been
> > using those dates as the last date I checked the IGI,
> and lost the info on
> > 20k people. I keep it elsewhere now.
>
> The question is - How did you move the DB? If via an export
> and import, then you
> got what you deserved for adding new records to a new file.
> If from a backup
> that was restored, then something else went wrong. If from
> a straight copy than,
> again something else went wrong.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mike Fry
> Johannesburg
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Merge Problems

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 20:21:26 -0600, Laird  wrote:

>If I understand your comment correctly:
>"I've always wished that genealogy programs would include a 'last changed' date
>somewhere for each individual"
>
>On the very bottom of the Legacy window in the right hand side is a date
>nn/nn/nn, mouse click on this date a small window will open and you will see:
>___
>Modified Date   Added Date  Imported (Yes or NO)
>Husband name and dates
>Wife name and dates
>Marriage dates
>
>Is this what you were wishing for?

But Legacy's Modified Date can't always be trusted. For example, if you
modify the Recorded Date on a citation, the individual's Modified Date
doesn't change. At least not in V6.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Merge Problems

[Mike Fry]

On 2011/01/11 08:33, RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote:
> But each time I moved my DB to a new computer, it changed all the
> modfied/added dates to the now store it elsewhere input date. I had been
> using those dates as the last date I checked the IGI, and lost the info on
> 20k people. I keep it elsewhere now.

The question is - How did you move the DB? If via an export and import, then you
got what you deserved for adding new records to a new file. If from a backup
that was restored, then something else went wrong. If from a straight copy than,
again something else went wrong.

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Mike Fry
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Re: [LegacyUG] Merge Problems

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

But each time I moved my DB to a new computer, it changed all the modfied/added 
dates to the now store it elsewhere input date. I had been using those dates as 
the last date I checked the IGI, and lost the info on 20k people. I keep it 
elsewhere now.
Rich in LA CA

--- On Mon, 1/10/11, Laird  wrote:

> From: Laird 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Merge Problems
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Date: Monday, January 10, 2011, 6:21 PM
> Kathy,
> If I understand your comment correctly:
> "I've always wished that genealogy programs would include a
> 'last changed' date
> somewhere for each individual"
>
> On the very bottom of the Legacy window in the right hand
> side is a date
> nn/nn/nn, mouse click on this date a small window will open
> and you will see:
> ___
> Modified Date       Added
> Date      Imported (Yes or NO)
> Husband name and dates
> Wife name and dates
> Marriage dates
> 
> Is this what you were wishing for?
>
> Also located at the bottom, you can right or left click on
> the tiny +- signs to
> go to next or previous RIN or MRIN.
> Laird
> =
> On 1/10/2011 2:46 PM, Kathy Meyer wrote:
> > I understood your question the first time; that makes
> absolutely no
> > sense; you are completely right.  Can you go to a
> back up?  Perhaps
> > you have one that you made just before all the
> export/import activity?
> >   Is it possible that somehow during
> the process, a different file was
> > created and the file you are seeing is not actually
> your original
> > master file at all?  I've always wished that
> genealogy programs would
> > include a 'last changed' date somewhere for each
> individual or ideally
> > for each bit of information so you'd know when you
> made each entry.
> > Like maybe somehow it took you to a backup copy that
> didn't have all
> > of the people that you have in your current file and
> so it looks like
> > you lost individuals.  Also, maybe only the links
> were broken?  I
> > assume you know approximately how many people were in
> your database
> > before, is that number significantly different now?
> >
> > No need to answer these questions for me; I'm sure
> some of the techies
> > here will be of help to you; I've just had so many
> weird things happen
> > to me with computers over the years that I try to
> think of random,
> > unusual things that you 'think' could never happen
> because you 'did it
> > right'.  Technology is both blessing and curse,
> depending on what it's
> > doing for you (or to you) on any particular day.
> >
> > Good luck with this; I hope you are able to recreate
> your database
> > without loss of information. Kathy
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:26 AM, James Cook 
> wrote:
> >> I expect loss of data via GEDCOM.  What I did
> not expect is to export
> >> a GEDCOM and have date removed from my master
> file.  Or, to merge into
> >> a new family file and have data removed from the
> master file.  I did
> >> not want or expect any edits to the master file,
> that is why I created
> >> a new one to merge into.  I do not understand
> why this happened.
> >>
> >> My question here is specifically why did my master
> file get corrupted?
> >>   My understanding is that I was
> making edits to a completely separate
> >> file and only pulling data in from the
> original.  I did not ever see
> >> an option that was to pull the data in and then
> delete from the
> >> source!?!?!?!?!
> >>
> >>
> >> If this is how the merge works, then I'll not be
> using it again either.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Merge Problems

[Laird]

Kathy,
If I understand your comment correctly:
"I've always wished that genealogy programs would include a 'last changed' date
somewhere for each individual"

On the very bottom of the Legacy window in the right hand side is a date
nn/nn/nn, mouse click on this date a small window will open and you will see:
___
Modified Date   Added Date  Imported (Yes or NO)
Husband name and dates
Wife name and dates
Marriage dates

Is this what you were wishing for?

Also located at the bottom, you can right or left click on the tiny +- signs to
go to next or previous RIN or MRIN.
Laird
=
On 1/10/2011 2:46 PM, Kathy Meyer wrote:
> I understood your question the first time; that makes absolutely no
> sense; you are completely right.  Can you go to a back up?  Perhaps
> you have one that you made just before all the export/import activity?
>   Is it possible that somehow during the process, a different file was
> created and the file you are seeing is not actually your original
> master file at all?  I've always wished that genealogy programs would
> include a 'last changed' date somewhere for each individual or ideally
> for each bit of information so you'd know when you made each entry.
> Like maybe somehow it took you to a backup copy that didn't have all
> of the people that you have in your current file and so it looks like
> you lost individuals.  Also, maybe only the links were broken?  I
> assume you know approximately how many people were in your database
> before, is that number significantly different now?
>
> No need to answer these questions for me; I'm sure some of the techies
> here will be of help to you; I've just had so many weird things happen
> to me with computers over the years that I try to think of random,
> unusual things that you 'think' could never happen because you 'did it
> right'.  Technology is both blessing and curse, depending on what it's
> doing for you (or to you) on any particular day.
>
> Good luck with this; I hope you are able to recreate your database
> without loss of information. Kathy
>
> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:26 AM, James Cook  wrote:
>> I expect loss of data via GEDCOM.  What I did not expect is to export
>> a GEDCOM and have date removed from my master file.  Or, to merge into
>> a new family file and have data removed from the master file.  I did
>> not want or expect any edits to the master file, that is why I created
>> a new one to merge into.  I do not understand why this happened.
>>
>> My question here is specifically why did my master file get corrupted?
>>   My understanding is that I was making edits to a completely separate
>> file and only pulling data in from the original.  I did not ever see
>> an option that was to pull the data in and then delete from the
>> source!?!?!?!?!
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Merge Problems

[Paul Brodsky]

I agree with Dennis in that there was problem some problem not related to
the process.  For what it's worth, I have done exactly what your talking
about (export from Legacy - import to Ancestry.com - export form
Ancestry.com - import/merge back into Legacy) without incident.

Of course you have to be very careful about the import/merge process and
since I'm new at this I have a relatively small tree but from a pure
technology viewpoint, I didn't have any problems or data loss.

Paul


On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:26 AM, James Cook  wrote:
> > I expect loss of data via GEDCOM.  What I did not expect is to export
> > a GEDCOM and have date removed from my master file.
>
> I have never heard of a GEDCOM export from Legacy (or any other genie
> program) losing data from the source file. Creating a GEDCOM from a file
> is a "read-only" operation. I would go back to your most recent backup
> and try it again ... double checking your claim. I suspect there is
> something else going on here.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Merge Problems

[James Cook]

I do indeed have a backup, so not as much harm as could have been.  I
don't think it's creating the GEDCOM either.  I was suspecting more
the merge process.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Merge Problems

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

What date? BMD date or input date. Most programs change file dates to the date 
it recieves it, changint the 'typed' date. Is that what you mean? I don't like 
it either.
Rich in LA CA

--- On Mon, 1/10/11, James Cook  wrote:

> From: James Cook 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Merge Problems
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Date: Monday, January 10, 2011, 10:26 AM
> I expect loss of data via
> GEDCOM.  What I did not expect is to export
> a GEDCOM and have date removed from my master file. 
> Or, to merge into
> a new family file and have data removed from the master
> file.  I did
> not want or expect any edits to the master file, that is
> why I created
> a new one to merge into.  I do not understand why this
> happened.
>
> My question here is specifically why did my master file get
> corrupted?
>  My understanding is that I was making edits to a
> completely separate
> file and only pulling data in from the original.  I
> did not ever see
> an option that was to pull the data in and then delete from
> the
> source!?!?!?!?!
>
>
> If this is how the merge works, then I'll not be using it
> again either.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Merge Problems

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:26 AM, James Cook  wrote:
> I expect loss of data via GEDCOM.  What I did not expect is to export
> a GEDCOM and have date removed from my master file.

I have never heard of a GEDCOM export from Legacy (or any other genie
program) losing data from the source file. Creating a GEDCOM from a file
is a "read-only" operation. I would go back to your most recent backup
and try it again ... double checking your claim. I suspect there is
something else going on here.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Merge Problems

[Kathy Meyer]

I understood your question the first time; that makes absolutely no
sense; you are completely right.  Can you go to a back up?  Perhaps
you have one that you made just before all the export/import activity?
 Is it possible that somehow during the process, a different file was
created and the file you are seeing is not actually your original
master file at all?  I've always wished that genealogy programs would
include a 'last changed' date somewhere for each individual or ideally
for each bit of information so you'd know when you made each entry.
Like maybe somehow it took you to a backup copy that didn't have all
of the people that you have in your current file and so it looks like
you lost individuals.  Also, maybe only the links were broken?  I
assume you know approximately how many people were in your database
before, is that number significantly different now?

No need to answer these questions for me; I'm sure some of the techies
here will be of help to you; I've just had so many weird things happen
to me with computers over the years that I try to think of random,
unusual things that you 'think' could never happen because you 'did it
right'.  Technology is both blessing and curse, depending on what it's
doing for you (or to you) on any particular day.

Good luck with this; I hope you are able to recreate your database
without loss of information. Kathy

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:26 AM, James Cook  wrote:
> I expect loss of data via GEDCOM.  What I did not expect is to export
> a GEDCOM and have date removed from my master file.  Or, to merge into
> a new family file and have data removed from the master file.  I did
> not want or expect any edits to the master file, that is why I created
> a new one to merge into.  I do not understand why this happened.
>
> My question here is specifically why did my master file get corrupted?
>  My understanding is that I was making edits to a completely separate
> file and only pulling data in from the original.  I did not ever see
> an option that was to pull the data in and then delete from the
> source!?!?!?!?!
>
>
> If this is how the merge works, then I'll not be using it again either.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Merge Problems

[James Cook]

I expect loss of data via GEDCOM.  What I did not expect is to export
a GEDCOM and have date removed from my master file.  Or, to merge into
a new family file and have data removed from the master file.  I did
not want or expect any edits to the master file, that is why I created
a new one to merge into.  I do not understand why this happened.

My question here is specifically why did my master file get corrupted?
 My understanding is that I was making edits to a completely separate
file and only pulling data in from the original.  I did not ever see
an option that was to pull the data in and then delete from the
source!?!?!?!?!


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RE: [LegacyUG] Merge Problems

[David C Abernathy]

This has been a ongoing issue with ALL family research programs. One needs to 
use ONLY one program to do ANY imputing. This will insure that you will not 
lose any data in your master file. All other uses are to be made from this 
master file and uploaded and or imported to another program. I have yet to find 
ANY export to a GEDCOM or any other file, that data will not be lost.

Since all programs, including Legacy, include data that is NOT covered by the 
GEDCOM spec's, then data is subject to be lost at that point. Then when ones 
travels backwards using the different exporters and importers then more data is 
subject to be lost.

So, settle on how you are going to input your data and on which program, then 
do all of your exporting from that master file. I also refuse to do any merging 
from or to in any case. As you have found, the merging is always subject to 
errors.

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-Original Message-
From: James Cook [mailto:jc1...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 9:19 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Merge Problems

This is what I did (over a weeks time):
- Backed up family file
- Exported GEDCOM for upload to Ancestry.com
- Made updates on Ancestry.com
- Downloaded GEDCOM from Ancestry.com
- Imported into Legacy creating a new family file
- Merged into new family file from the original

My findings:
- My original file (the merge FROM not the merge TO) is missing all
kinds of people!?
- My original file is missing all kinds of sources!?
- My new file contains all the people, but they are not attached
correctly.  For example, I pick a father from the index, and look at
the family page and it correctly shows wife and children.  I click on
one of the children and the family view is updated to show this person
with only a mother!?  I click the empty father space and it asks if I
want to create a new person or attach to an existing one.  I ran the
file repair tool, and all it found was 6 image location problems.
FWIW, there are people and source citations in the exported GEDCOM
that are not longer in my original family file.

The archives mention "many catastrophes" due to merging.  Does that
include the merge FROM file ???



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[LegacyUG] Merge Problems

[James Cook]

This is what I did (over a weeks time):
- Backed up family file
- Exported GEDCOM for upload to Ancestry.com
- Made updates on Ancestry.com
- Downloaded GEDCOM from Ancestry.com
- Imported into Legacy creating a new family file
- Merged into new family file from the original

My findings:
- My original file (the merge FROM not the merge TO) is missing all
kinds of people!?
- My original file is missing all kinds of sources!?
- My new file contains all the people, but they are not attached
correctly.  For example, I pick a father from the index, and look at
the family page and it correctly shows wife and children.  I click on
one of the children and the family view is updated to show this person
with only a mother!?  I click the empty father space and it asks if I
want to create a new person or attach to an existing one.  I ran the
file repair tool, and all it found was 6 image location problems.
FWIW, there are people and source citations in the exported GEDCOM
that are not longer in my original family file.

The archives mention "many catastrophes" due to merging.  Does that
include the merge FROM file ???



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