Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption
Yes, I've gathered. ;) Question was more from a programming POV -- how could it be told to do so. C Brian/Support wrote: > Legacy does not try to differentiate these. A spouse who is not entered > is the same as one who is deliberately omitted. > > Brian > Customer Support > Millennia Corporation > br...@legacyfamilytree.com > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com > -- > > On 06/10/2013 11:20 AM, singhals wrote: > snip >> >> This probably falls into the "none of my beeswax" category, >> but from a programming standpoint ... >> >> HOW would the program distinguish between a man (or woman) >> who is deliberately omitted and one whose name is >> not-yet-known? Presumably a tic-box or toggle? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption
Perhaps someone should put forward an enhancement request. On the right-click context menu for an individual, under the "Add..." option, offer choices of "an adopted son" an "an adopted daughter". This would work exactly as "a son" or "a daughter". However, since Legacy is now aware of the non-biological nature of the relationship there would be no need for a "marriage" or a "spouse". If these are needed internally for Legacy's database to function then so be it, but there is no need for this pseudo-relationship ever to be visible outside Legacy's internals. Tony Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption
Thanks Kurt, I’ll give that a try. Sue From: Kurt Kneeland Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:04 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption Try creating an “adopting father” record, perhaps with just a given name of “none”, then setting the Privacy Level on that record to “Invisible”. It will show on your screen, but shouldn’t show on any reports. This seems to work for all (Individual, Family, Lineage, Pedigree & Ancestor reports) except the Descendant Report. On that report, it not only suppresses the Invisible parent record, but also the descendant child/children. For that report, you have to select the include invisible records and then you’ll get: Parent + None Child Which is perhaps better than the + Unknown that you would otherwise get. Actually, all those other reports work fine with a blank / no record and the “just leave blank” option set under customize. I’d say this is a glitch in the Descendants report not recognizing and properly handling that option. From: Sue McLachlan [mailto:sue...@clear.net.nz] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 4:22 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption Thanks all for the comments. I understand that it will put in another person, I’m just really keen for it to not be unknown on the report. The adoptive mother does not have a partner and never has so putting an “unknown” partner in there is not correct. There must be a way of getting rid of the unknown part and just leave it blank. The birth mother and father are unknown and that’s fine, I am happy with that, but the adoptive mother doesn’t have an unknown partner – there just isn’t one. Maybe it is a glitch with the “just leave blank” option under customise??? Thanks for your help. Sue From: Ron Ferguson Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 9:02 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption Jay, Whilst what you say is true, I suspect that Sue is asking a different question. Initially she says "a solo mother" there is an implication here that this was the situation at the time of the adoption. If that was the case then the addition of an unknown male partner to Sue would be incorrect. If, Sue, that is the case, please do let us know so that we are aware of the exact situation. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Jay 1FamilyTree <1familytree@gmail.com> wrote: Sue, Stop trying to get rid of it and look for a way to word your 'father' and mother of the adopted child, that works well for you. The child was not an immaculate conception, so he/she has biological parents. Personally, I use UnknownM for the father and UnknownF for the mother as biological parents, and then list the child as adopted underneath the mother and her 'other' (and even if she doesnt have any significant other relationship , the way Legacy is currently written, you cannot get around it) Jay On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Sue McLachlan wrote: Hi, I have a solo mother on my tree who has adopted a child and I can’t get rid of the “unknown” father on the reports. I have read past posts and tried the following: Under customise, I have turned the unknown to just leave blank. but it still comes up. Tried the did not marry. Tried leaving private, but then the daughter isn’t printed either. I am using Legacy 7.5 Thanks for any help Sue McLachlan (NZ) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacy
RE: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption
Try creating an “adopting father” record, perhaps with just a given name of “none”, then setting the Privacy Level on that record to “Invisible”. It will show on your screen, but shouldn’t show on any reports. This seems to work for all (Individual, Family, Lineage, Pedigree & Ancestor reports) except the Descendant Report. On that report, it not only suppresses the Invisible parent record, but also the descendant child/children. For that report, you have to select the include invisible records and then you’ll get: Parent + None Child Which is perhaps better than the + Unknown that you would otherwise get. Actually, all those other reports work fine with a blank / no record and the “just leave blank” option set under customize. I’d say this is a glitch in the Descendants report not recognizing and properly handling that option. From: Sue McLachlan [mailto:sue...@clear.net.nz] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 4:22 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption Thanks all for the comments. I understand that it will put in another person, I’m just really keen for it to not be unknown on the report. The adoptive mother does not have a partner and never has so putting an “unknown” partner in there is not correct. There must be a way of getting rid of the unknown part and just leave it blank. The birth mother and father are unknown and that’s fine, I am happy with that, but the adoptive mother doesn’t have an unknown partner – there just isn’t one. Maybe it is a glitch with the “just leave blank” option under customise??? Thanks for your help. Sue From: Ron Ferguson <mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 9:02 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption Jay, Whilst what you say is true, I suspect that Sue is asking a different question. Initially she says "a solo mother" there is an implication here that this was the situation at the time of the adoption. If that was the case then the addition of an unknown male partner to Sue would be incorrect. If, Sue, that is the case, please do let us know so that we are aware of the exact situation. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Jay 1FamilyTree <1familytree@gmail.com> wrote: Sue, Stop trying to get rid of it and look for a way to word your 'father' and mother of the adopted child, that works well for you. The child was not an immaculate conception, so he/she has biological parents. Personally, I use UnknownM for the father and UnknownF for the mother as biological parents, and then list the child as adopted underneath the mother and her 'other' (and even if she doesnt have any significant other relationship , the way Legacy is currently written, you cannot get around it) Jay On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Sue McLachlan wrote: Hi, I have a solo mother on my tree who has adopted a child and I can’t get rid of the “unknown” father on the reports. I have read past posts and tried the following: Under customise, I have turned the unknown to just leave blank. but it still comes up. Tried the did not marry. Tried leaving private, but then the daughter isn’t printed either. I am using Legacy 7.5 Thanks for any help Sue McLachlan (NZ) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.faceboo
Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption
Legacy does not try to differentiate these. A spouse who is not entered is the same as one who is deliberately omitted. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -- On 06/10/2013 11:20 AM, singhals wrote: snip > > This probably falls into the "none of my beeswax" category, > but from a programming standpoint ... > > HOW would the program distinguish between a man (or woman) > who is deliberately omitted and one whose name is > not-yet-known? Presumably a tic-box or toggle? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption
Brian/Support wrote: > Ron, > > Since the spouse does not exist there should be no way to set them to > private nor invisible. If you were able to do so please tell me how you > did it? I also do not know what you are referring to re the affects of > adopted children of the real person. Please start a new thread with an > explanation of what you did to test this. As I also reported, we have a > problem report in the system that the descendant chart should be leaving > the name of the non-existent spouse blank instead of using "unknown". This probably falls into the "none of my beeswax" category, but from a programming standpoint ... HOW would the program distinguish between a man (or woman) who is deliberately omitted and one whose name is not-yet-known? Presumably a tic-box or toggle? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption
Brian, Thank you for your comments. I follow what you are saying and tend to agree. However, I have to go out for the day very shortly, so it will be tomorrow before I can get back to Legacy matters. Off hand, I think it will be easier to use screen shots, so will probably follow this up using another method. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Brian/Support Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:54 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption Ron, Since the spouse does not exist there should be no way to set them to private nor invisible. If you were able to do so please tell me how you did it? I also do not know what you are referring to re the affects of adopted children of the real person. Please start a new thread with an explanation of what you did to test this. As I also reported, we have a problem report in the system that the descendant chart should be leaving the name of the non-existent spouse blank instead of using "unknown". Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -- On 06/10/2013 3:08 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: > Sue, Brian, > > I have been unable to get rid of the unwanted partner from with Legacy, > and, > Brian, in my view there are problems with both the Privacy and Invisible > options when a child is linked by adoption to a single person. In > particular, I contend that when the "Unknown" Legacy introduced, > non-existant partner is set to invisible then this should not affect the > adopted children of the real person. > > Sue, the only way I can suggest is to save as text and open in, say, > Notepad++, Word, OpenOffice Writer, or similar and delete the fictitious > spouse. Alternative if you have a PDF editor you could save in that format > and delete. > > It should be possible to do in Legacy when the bigs get sorted out. > > Ron Ferguson > http://www.fergys.co.uk/ > > -Original Message- > From: Sue McLachlan > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 11:58 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption > > Thanks Ron, that will be my mistake then - and sounds like the chart is an > issue. Got that far though with the reports which is great. Thanks very > much. > Sue > > -Original Message- > From: Ron Ferguson > Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 10:20 AM > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption > > Thanks for the feedback, Sue. I was sure that in your original post you > said > reports, and my tests show that the changes I suggest work for those. > > I will have a think about the Charts tomorrow. > > Ron Ferguson > http://www.ferggys.co.uk/ > > > -----Original Message- > From: Sue McLachlan > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 9:22 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption > > Thanks Ron, I followed this and did all of those steps, but when I go to > print or view a descendant chart (not report?? same thing?) It still comes > up with unknown printed as a spouse. It doesn't come up as unknown in > other > reports. If I put it into the charting companion it comes up as "no > partner" > which is slightly better. > Thanks for your help. > Sue > > > -Original Message- > From: Ron Ferguson > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:59 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption > > Sue, > > Sherry has given below details as to how marriage wording can be changed, > and this provides the answer to your problem. I used the sample file to > test > and added a child, John Doe, to Ruth Brown, and tested using the > Descendant > Report. The full procedure I used is as below. > > 1. Add an unlinked individual, name John Doe b. abt 1820 > 2. Click on the box above him to add a mother, select "link to an existing > person" and choose Ruth Brown, RIN 121. > 3. Right click on John Doe and under Children's Settings set "Relationship > to Mother" as adopted > 4. Click Marriage Information and under the General Tab check "this couple > did not marry" and change Ruth's married name back to "Brown" > 5. Under the Wording Options tab change Family View labels to "Male" and > "Female" - not particularly important and btw. I think that there is a bug > here as my label for Ruth shows "Sister". > 6. Now for a spot of lateral thinking ! Under the first line "Report > phrases > for first marriage or partnership" -"Ruth" in the box delete all the stuff > about had a relationship etc. and replace
Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption
Ron, Since the spouse does not exist there should be no way to set them to private nor invisible. If you were able to do so please tell me how you did it? I also do not know what you are referring to re the affects of adopted children of the real person. Please start a new thread with an explanation of what you did to test this. As I also reported, we have a problem report in the system that the descendant chart should be leaving the name of the non-existent spouse blank instead of using "unknown". Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -- On 06/10/2013 3:08 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: > Sue, Brian, > > I have been unable to get rid of the unwanted partner from with Legacy, and, > Brian, in my view there are problems with both the Privacy and Invisible > options when a child is linked by adoption to a single person. In > particular, I contend that when the "Unknown" Legacy introduced, > non-existant partner is set to invisible then this should not affect the > adopted children of the real person. > > Sue, the only way I can suggest is to save as text and open in, say, > Notepad++, Word, OpenOffice Writer, or similar and delete the fictitious > spouse. Alternative if you have a PDF editor you could save in that format > and delete. > > It should be possible to do in Legacy when the bigs get sorted out. > > Ron Ferguson > http://www.fergys.co.uk/ > > -Original Message- > From: Sue McLachlan > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 11:58 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption > > Thanks Ron, that will be my mistake then - and sounds like the chart is an > issue. Got that far though with the reports which is great. Thanks very > much. > Sue > > -Original Message- > From: Ron Ferguson > Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 10:20 AM > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption > > Thanks for the feedback, Sue. I was sure that in your original post you said > reports, and my tests show that the changes I suggest work for those. > > I will have a think about the Charts tomorrow. > > Ron Ferguson > http://www.ferggys.co.uk/ > > > -Original Message- > From: Sue McLachlan > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 9:22 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption > > Thanks Ron, I followed this and did all of those steps, but when I go to > print or view a descendant chart (not report?? same thing?) It still comes > up with unknown printed as a spouse. It doesn't come up as unknown in other > reports. If I put it into the charting companion it comes up as "no partner" > which is slightly better. > Thanks for your help. > Sue > > > -Original Message- > From: Ron Ferguson > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:59 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption > > Sue, > > Sherry has given below details as to how marriage wording can be changed, > and this provides the answer to your problem. I used the sample file to test > and added a child, John Doe, to Ruth Brown, and tested using the Descendant > Report. The full procedure I used is as below. > > 1. Add an unlinked individual, name John Doe b. abt 1820 > 2. Click on the box above him to add a mother, select "link to an existing > person" and choose Ruth Brown, RIN 121. > 3. Right click on John Doe and under Children's Settings set "Relationship > to Mother" as adopted > 4. Click Marriage Information and under the General Tab check "this couple > did not marry" and change Ruth's married name back to "Brown" > 5. Under the Wording Options tab change Family View labels to "Male" and > "Female" - not particularly important and btw. I think that there is a bug > here as my label for Ruth shows "Sister". > 6. Now for a spot of lateral thinking ! Under the first line "Report phrases > for first marriage or partnership" -"Ruth" in the box delete all the stuff > about had a relationship etc. and replace with "adopted a child". Save > 7. Print a Descendant report which instead of the stuff about marriage now > reads "Ruth adopted a child" > > Ron Ferguson > http://www.fergys.co.uk/ > > > -Original Message- > From: Sherry/Support > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 11:29 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption > > You can change the wording on reports on the Marriage Information > window > Wording Options tab (for the couple) a
Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption
Sue, Interestingly, it seems to work for me in Legacy Charting - if it doesn't for you, Sue, please let me know and let's see if we can sort it out. BTW sorry about the spelling errors in my last post, I knew they were there but left them to the spell checker which didn't work! Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:08 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption Sue, Brian, I have been unable to get rid of the unwanted partner from with Legacy, and, Brian, in my view there are problems with both the Privacy and Invisible options when a child is linked by adoption to a single person. In particular, I contend that when the "Unknown" Legacy introduced, non-existant partner is set to invisible then this should not affect the adopted children of the real person. Sue, the only way I can suggest is to save as text and open in, say, Notepad++, Word, OpenOffice Writer, or similar and delete the fictitious spouse. Alternative if you have a PDF editor you could save in that format and delete. It should be possible to do in Legacy when the bigs get sorted out. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Sue McLachlan Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 11:58 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption Thanks Ron, that will be my mistake then - and sounds like the chart is an issue. Got that far though with the reports which is great. Thanks very much. Sue -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 10:20 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption Thanks for the feedback, Sue. I was sure that in your original post you said reports, and my tests show that the changes I suggest work for those. I will have a think about the Charts tomorrow. Ron Ferguson http://www.ferggys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Sue McLachlan Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 9:22 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption Thanks Ron, I followed this and did all of those steps, but when I go to print or view a descendant chart (not report?? same thing?) It still comes up with unknown printed as a spouse. It doesn't come up as unknown in other reports. If I put it into the charting companion it comes up as "no partner" which is slightly better. Thanks for your help. Sue -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:59 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption Sue, Sherry has given below details as to how marriage wording can be changed, and this provides the answer to your problem. I used the sample file to test and added a child, John Doe, to Ruth Brown, and tested using the Descendant Report. The full procedure I used is as below. 1. Add an unlinked individual, name John Doe b. abt 1820 2. Click on the box above him to add a mother, select "link to an existing person" and choose Ruth Brown, RIN 121. 3. Right click on John Doe and under Children's Settings set "Relationship to Mother" as adopted 4. Click Marriage Information and under the General Tab check "this couple did not marry" and change Ruth's married name back to "Brown" 5. Under the Wording Options tab change Family View labels to "Male" and "Female" - not particularly important and btw. I think that there is a bug here as my label for Ruth shows "Sister". 6. Now for a spot of lateral thinking ! Under the first line "Report phrases for first marriage or partnership" -"Ruth" in the box delete all the stuff about had a relationship etc. and replace with "adopted a child". Save 7. Print a Descendant report which instead of the stuff about marriage now reads "Ruth adopted a child" Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -----Original Message- From: Sherry/Support Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 11:29 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption You can change the wording on reports on the Marriage Information window > Wording Options tab (for the couple) as well as the wording in the reports themselves using the wording tab (for the whole report) Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Sue McLachlan wrote: > Hi, > I have a solo mother on my tree who has adopted a child and I > can’t > get > rid > of the > “unknown†> father on the reports. > I have read past posts and tried the following: > Under customise, I have turned the unknown to just leave blank. but it > still > comes up. > Tried the did no
Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption
Sue, Brian, I have been unable to get rid of the unwanted partner from with Legacy, and, Brian, in my view there are problems with both the Privacy and Invisible options when a child is linked by adoption to a single person. In particular, I contend that when the "Unknown" Legacy introduced, non-existant partner is set to invisible then this should not affect the adopted children of the real person. Sue, the only way I can suggest is to save as text and open in, say, Notepad++, Word, OpenOffice Writer, or similar and delete the fictitious spouse. Alternative if you have a PDF editor you could save in that format and delete. It should be possible to do in Legacy when the bigs get sorted out. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Sue McLachlan Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 11:58 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption Thanks Ron, that will be my mistake then - and sounds like the chart is an issue. Got that far though with the reports which is great. Thanks very much. Sue -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 10:20 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption Thanks for the feedback, Sue. I was sure that in your original post you said reports, and my tests show that the changes I suggest work for those. I will have a think about the Charts tomorrow. Ron Ferguson http://www.ferggys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Sue McLachlan Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 9:22 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption Thanks Ron, I followed this and did all of those steps, but when I go to print or view a descendant chart (not report?? same thing?) It still comes up with unknown printed as a spouse. It doesn't come up as unknown in other reports. If I put it into the charting companion it comes up as "no partner" which is slightly better. Thanks for your help. Sue -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:59 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption Sue, Sherry has given below details as to how marriage wording can be changed, and this provides the answer to your problem. I used the sample file to test and added a child, John Doe, to Ruth Brown, and tested using the Descendant Report. The full procedure I used is as below. 1. Add an unlinked individual, name John Doe b. abt 1820 2. Click on the box above him to add a mother, select "link to an existing person" and choose Ruth Brown, RIN 121. 3. Right click on John Doe and under Children's Settings set "Relationship to Mother" as adopted 4. Click Marriage Information and under the General Tab check "this couple did not marry" and change Ruth's married name back to "Brown" 5. Under the Wording Options tab change Family View labels to "Male" and "Female" - not particularly important and btw. I think that there is a bug here as my label for Ruth shows "Sister". 6. Now for a spot of lateral thinking ! Under the first line "Report phrases for first marriage or partnership" -"Ruth" in the box delete all the stuff about had a relationship etc. and replace with "adopted a child". Save 7. Print a Descendant report which instead of the stuff about marriage now reads "Ruth adopted a child" Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -----Original Message- From: Sherry/Support Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 11:29 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption You can change the wording on reports on the Marriage Information window > Wording Options tab (for the couple) as well as the wording in the reports themselves using the wording tab (for the whole report) Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Sue McLachlan wrote: > Hi, > I have a solo mother on my tree who has adopted a child and I > can’t > get > rid > of the “unknown†father on the reports. > I have read past posts and tried the following: > Under customise, I have turned the unknown to just leave blank. but it > still > comes up. > Tried the did not marry. > Tried leaving private, but then the daughter isn’t printed > either. > I am using Legacy 7.5 > Thanks for any help > Sue McLachlan (NZ) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption
Thanks Ron, that will be my mistake then - and sounds like the chart is an issue. Got that far though with the reports which is great. Thanks very much. Sue -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 10:20 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption Thanks for the feedback, Sue. I was sure that in your original post you said reports, and my tests show that the changes I suggest work for those. I will have a think about the Charts tomorrow. Ron Ferguson http://www.ferggys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Sue McLachlan Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 9:22 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption Thanks Ron, I followed this and did all of those steps, but when I go to print or view a descendant chart (not report?? same thing?) It still comes up with unknown printed as a spouse. It doesn't come up as unknown in other reports. If I put it into the charting companion it comes up as "no partner" which is slightly better. Thanks for your help. Sue -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:59 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption Sue, Sherry has given below details as to how marriage wording can be changed, and this provides the answer to your problem. I used the sample file to test and added a child, John Doe, to Ruth Brown, and tested using the Descendant Report. The full procedure I used is as below. 1. Add an unlinked individual, name John Doe b. abt 1820 2. Click on the box above him to add a mother, select "link to an existing person" and choose Ruth Brown, RIN 121. 3. Right click on John Doe and under Children's Settings set "Relationship to Mother" as adopted 4. Click Marriage Information and under the General Tab check "this couple did not marry" and change Ruth's married name back to "Brown" 5. Under the Wording Options tab change Family View labels to "Male" and "Female" - not particularly important and btw. I think that there is a bug here as my label for Ruth shows "Sister". 6. Now for a spot of lateral thinking ! Under the first line "Report phrases for first marriage or partnership" -"Ruth" in the box delete all the stuff about had a relationship etc. and replace with "adopted a child". Save 7. Print a Descendant report which instead of the stuff about marriage now reads "Ruth adopted a child" Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Sherry/Support Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 11:29 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption You can change the wording on reports on the Marriage Information window > Wording Options tab (for the couple) as well as the wording in the reports themselves using the wording tab (for the whole report) Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Sue McLachlan wrote: > Hi, > I have a solo mother on my tree who has adopted a child and I can’t > get > rid > of the “unknown†father on the reports. > I have read past posts and tried the following: > Under customise, I have turned the unknown to just leave blank. but it > still > comes up. > Tried the did not marry. > Tried leaving private, but then the daughter isn’t printed either. > I am using Legacy 7.5 > Thanks for any help > Sue McLachlan (NZ) > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption
Thanks for the memory prompt Brian, I will try and think of a work around - I have a couple of ideas, but it will be tomorrow now. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Brian/Support Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 10:50 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption There is a problem report in our system about the Descendant Chart which does ignore the users option to "just leave it blank" for non-existent spouses. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -- On 04/10/2013 4:22 PM, Sue McLachlan wrote: > Thanks Ron, I followed this and did all of those steps, but when I go to > print or view a descendant chart (not report?? same thing?) It still comes > up with unknown printed as a spouse. It doesn't come up as unknown in > other > reports. If I put it into the charting companion it comes up as "no > partner" > which is slightly better. > Thanks for your help. > Sue > > > -Original Message- > From: Ron Ferguson > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:59 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption > > Sue, > > Sherry has given below details as to how marriage wording can be changed, > and this provides the answer to your problem. I used the sample file to > test > and added a child, John Doe, to Ruth Brown, and tested using the > Descendant > Report. The full procedure I used is as below. > > 1. Add an unlinked individual, name John Doe b. abt 1820 > 2. Click on the box above him to add a mother, select "link to an existing > person" and choose Ruth Brown, RIN 121. > 3. Right click on John Doe and under Children's Settings set "Relationship > to Mother" as adopted > 4. Click Marriage Information and under the General Tab check "this couple > did not marry" and change Ruth's married name back to "Brown" > 5. Under the Wording Options tab change Family View labels to "Male" and > "Female" - not particularly important and btw. I think that there is a bug > here as my label for Ruth shows "Sister". > 6. Now for a spot of lateral thinking ! Under the first line "Report > phrases > for first marriage or partnership" -"Ruth" in the box delete all the stuff > about had a relationship etc. and replace with "adopted a child". Save > 7. Print a Descendant report which instead of the stuff about marriage now > reads "Ruth adopted a child" > > Ron Ferguson > http://www.fergys.co.uk/ > > > -Original Message- > From: Sherry/Support > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 11:29 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption > > You can change the wording on reports on the Marriage Information > window > Wording Options tab (for the couple) as well as the wording > in the reports themselves using the wording tab (for the whole report) > > > Sincerely, > Sherry > Technical Support > Legacy Family Tree > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Sue McLachlan wrote: >> Hi, >> I have a solo mother on my tree who has adopted a child and I >> can’t get >> rid >> of the “unknown†father on the reports. >> I have read past posts and tried the following: >> Under customise, I have turned the unknown to just leave blank. but it >> still >> comes up. >> Tried the did not marry. >> Tried leaving private, but then the daughter isn’t printed >> either. >> I am using Legacy 7.5 >> Thanks for any help >> Sue McLachlan (NZ) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption
There is a problem report in our system about the Descendant Chart which does ignore the users option to "just leave it blank" for non-existent spouses. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -- On 04/10/2013 4:22 PM, Sue McLachlan wrote: > Thanks Ron, I followed this and did all of those steps, but when I go to > print or view a descendant chart (not report?? same thing?) It still comes > up with unknown printed as a spouse. It doesn't come up as unknown in other > reports. If I put it into the charting companion it comes up as "no partner" > which is slightly better. > Thanks for your help. > Sue > > > -Original Message- > From: Ron Ferguson > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:59 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption > > Sue, > > Sherry has given below details as to how marriage wording can be changed, > and this provides the answer to your problem. I used the sample file to test > and added a child, John Doe, to Ruth Brown, and tested using the Descendant > Report. The full procedure I used is as below. > > 1. Add an unlinked individual, name John Doe b. abt 1820 > 2. Click on the box above him to add a mother, select "link to an existing > person" and choose Ruth Brown, RIN 121. > 3. Right click on John Doe and under Children's Settings set "Relationship > to Mother" as adopted > 4. Click Marriage Information and under the General Tab check "this couple > did not marry" and change Ruth's married name back to "Brown" > 5. Under the Wording Options tab change Family View labels to "Male" and > "Female" - not particularly important and btw. I think that there is a bug > here as my label for Ruth shows "Sister". > 6. Now for a spot of lateral thinking ! Under the first line "Report phrases > for first marriage or partnership" -"Ruth" in the box delete all the stuff > about had a relationship etc. and replace with "adopted a child". Save > 7. Print a Descendant report which instead of the stuff about marriage now > reads "Ruth adopted a child" > > Ron Ferguson > http://www.fergys.co.uk/ > > > -Original Message- > From: Sherry/Support > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 11:29 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption > > You can change the wording on reports on the Marriage Information > window > Wording Options tab (for the couple) as well as the wording > in the reports themselves using the wording tab (for the whole report) > > > Sincerely, > Sherry > Technical Support > Legacy Family Tree > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Sue McLachlan wrote: >> Hi, >> I have a solo mother on my tree who has adopted a child and I can’t >> get >> rid >> of the “unknown†father on the reports. >> I have read past posts and tried the following: >> Under customise, I have turned the unknown to just leave blank. but it >> still >> comes up. >> Tried the did not marry. >> Tried leaving private, but then the daughter isn’t printed either. >> I am using Legacy 7.5 >> Thanks for any help >> Sue McLachlan (NZ) >> > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on > our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on > our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > . > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption
Thanks for the feedback, Sue. I was sure that in your original post you said reports, and my tests show that the changes I suggest work for those. I will have a think about the Charts tomorrow. Ron Ferguson http://www.ferggys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Sue McLachlan Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 9:22 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption Thanks Ron, I followed this and did all of those steps, but when I go to print or view a descendant chart (not report?? same thing?) It still comes up with unknown printed as a spouse. It doesn't come up as unknown in other reports. If I put it into the charting companion it comes up as "no partner" which is slightly better. Thanks for your help. Sue -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:59 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption Sue, Sherry has given below details as to how marriage wording can be changed, and this provides the answer to your problem. I used the sample file to test and added a child, John Doe, to Ruth Brown, and tested using the Descendant Report. The full procedure I used is as below. 1. Add an unlinked individual, name John Doe b. abt 1820 2. Click on the box above him to add a mother, select "link to an existing person" and choose Ruth Brown, RIN 121. 3. Right click on John Doe and under Children's Settings set "Relationship to Mother" as adopted 4. Click Marriage Information and under the General Tab check "this couple did not marry" and change Ruth's married name back to "Brown" 5. Under the Wording Options tab change Family View labels to "Male" and "Female" - not particularly important and btw. I think that there is a bug here as my label for Ruth shows "Sister". 6. Now for a spot of lateral thinking ! Under the first line "Report phrases for first marriage or partnership" -"Ruth" in the box delete all the stuff about had a relationship etc. and replace with "adopted a child". Save 7. Print a Descendant report which instead of the stuff about marriage now reads "Ruth adopted a child" Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Sherry/Support Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 11:29 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption You can change the wording on reports on the Marriage Information window > Wording Options tab (for the couple) as well as the wording in the reports themselves using the wording tab (for the whole report) Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Sue McLachlan wrote: > Hi, > I have a solo mother on my tree who has adopted a child and I can’t get > rid > of the “unknown†father on the reports. > I have read past posts and tried the following: > Under customise, I have turned the unknown to just leave blank. but it > still > comes up. > Tried the did not marry. > Tried leaving private, but then the daughter isn’t printed either. > I am using Legacy 7.5 > Thanks for any help > Sue McLachlan (NZ) > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption
Thanks Ron, I followed this and did all of those steps, but when I go to print or view a descendant chart (not report?? same thing?) It still comes up with unknown printed as a spouse. It doesn't come up as unknown in other reports. If I put it into the charting companion it comes up as "no partner" which is slightly better. Thanks for your help. Sue -Original Message- From: Ron Ferguson Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:59 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption Sue, Sherry has given below details as to how marriage wording can be changed, and this provides the answer to your problem. I used the sample file to test and added a child, John Doe, to Ruth Brown, and tested using the Descendant Report. The full procedure I used is as below. 1. Add an unlinked individual, name John Doe b. abt 1820 2. Click on the box above him to add a mother, select "link to an existing person" and choose Ruth Brown, RIN 121. 3. Right click on John Doe and under Children's Settings set "Relationship to Mother" as adopted 4. Click Marriage Information and under the General Tab check "this couple did not marry" and change Ruth's married name back to "Brown" 5. Under the Wording Options tab change Family View labels to "Male" and "Female" - not particularly important and btw. I think that there is a bug here as my label for Ruth shows "Sister". 6. Now for a spot of lateral thinking ! Under the first line "Report phrases for first marriage or partnership" -"Ruth" in the box delete all the stuff about had a relationship etc. and replace with "adopted a child". Save 7. Print a Descendant report which instead of the stuff about marriage now reads "Ruth adopted a child" Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Sherry/Support Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 11:29 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption You can change the wording on reports on the Marriage Information window > Wording Options tab (for the couple) as well as the wording in the reports themselves using the wording tab (for the whole report) Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Sue McLachlan wrote: > Hi, > I have a solo mother on my tree who has adopted a child and I can’t get > rid > of the “unknown†father on the reports. > I have read past posts and tried the following: > Under customise, I have turned the unknown to just leave blank. but it > still > comes up. > Tried the did not marry. > Tried leaving private, but then the daughter isn’t printed either. > I am using Legacy 7.5 > Thanks for any help > Sue McLachlan (NZ) > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption
I agree that genie programs ought to allow us to show a parent-child relationship without assuming the parent was married. However: A child by biological imperative ALWAYS has two parents. So it is relatively reasonable for programs to make the assumption. And since way too many families have generation after generation of same-name married same-name (every Charles for 5 generations married Elizabeth sort of thing) it is fatally easy to marry Charles5 to Elizabeth3, the necessity of entering both parents (or one and UNKN) is a check against that. Cheryl David Abernathy wrote: > Until the software is changed, there will be the requirement > that two parents are needed. Even at this time one MUST be > male and the other female and they are to be married. > > Some programs are starting to make these changes in the new > releases; maybe Legacy will see the day light and put this > in version 8. > > Thanks, > > David C Abernathy > > Email disclaimers > > > > This message represents the official view of the voices in > my head. > > > > http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com > > == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot > Antivirus == > > *From:*Sue McLachlan [mailto:sue...@clear.net.nz] > *Sent:* Thursday, October 03, 2013 1:22 PM > *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption > > Thanks all for the comments. > > I understand that it will put in another person, I’m just > really keen for it to not be unknown on the report. The > adoptive mother does not have a partner and never has so > putting an “unknown†partner in there is not correct. There > must be a way of getting rid of the unknown part and just > leave it blank. The birth mother and father are unknown and > that’s fine, I am happy with that, but the adoptive mother > doesn’t have an unknown partner – there just isn’t one. > > Maybe it is a glitch with the “just leave blank†option > under customise??? > > Thanks for your help. > > Sue > > *From:*Ron Ferguson <mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk> > > *Sent:*Thursday, October 03, 2013 9:02 PM > > *To:*LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > <mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com> > > *Subject:*Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption > > Jay, > > Whilst what you say is true, I suspect that Sue is asking a > different question. > > Initially she says "a solo mother" there is an implication > here that this was the situation at the time of the adoption. > > If that was the case then the addition of an unknown male > partner to Sue would be incorrect. > > If, Sue, that is the case, please do let us know so that we > are aware of the exact situation. > > Ron Ferguson > http://www.fergys.co.uk/ > > Jay 1FamilyTree <1familytree@gmail.com > <mailto:1familytree@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Sue, > > Stop trying to get rid of it and look for a way to word your > 'father' and mother of the adopted child, that works well > for you. > > The child was not an immaculate conception, so he/she has > biological parents. > > Personally, I use UnknownM for the father and UnknownF for > the mother as biological parents, and then list the child as > adopted underneath the mother and her 'other' > > (and even if she doesnt have any significant other > relationship , the way Legacy is currently written, you > cannot get around it) > > Jay > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Sue McLachlan > mailto:sue...@clear.net.nz>> wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a solo mother on my tree who has adopted a child and > I can’t get rid of the “unknown†father on the reports. > > I have read past posts and tried the following: > > Under customise, I have turned the unknown to just leave > blank. but it still comes up. > > Tried the did not marry. > > Tried leaving private, but then the daughter isn’t printed > either. > > I am using Legacy 7.5 > > Thanks for any help > > Sue McLachlan (NZ) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption
Sue, Sherry has given below details as to how marriage wording can be changed, and this provides the answer to your problem. I used the sample file to test and added a child, John Doe, to Ruth Brown, and tested using the Descendant Report. The full procedure I used is as below. 1. Add an unlinked individual, name John Doe b. abt 1820 2. Click on the box above him to add a mother, select "link to an existing person" and choose Ruth Brown, RIN 121. 3. Right click on John Doe and under Children's Settings set "Relationship to Mother" as adopted 4. Click Marriage Information and under the General Tab check "this couple did not marry" and change Ruth's married name back to "Brown" 5. Under the Wording Options tab change Family View labels to "Male" and "Female" - not particularly important and btw. I think that there is a bug here as my label for Ruth shows "Sister". 6. Now for a spot of lateral thinking ! Under the first line "Report phrases for first marriage or partnership" -"Ruth" in the box delete all the stuff about had a relationship etc. and replace with "adopted a child". Save 7. Print a Descendant report which instead of the stuff about marriage now reads "Ruth adopted a child" Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Sherry/Support Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 11:29 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption You can change the wording on reports on the Marriage Information window > Wording Options tab (for the couple) as well as the wording in the reports themselves using the wording tab (for the whole report) Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Sue McLachlan wrote: > Hi, > I have a solo mother on my tree who has adopted a child and I can’t get > rid > of the “unknown†father on the reports. > I have read past posts and tried the following: > Under customise, I have turned the unknown to just leave blank. but it > still > comes up. > Tried the did not marry. > Tried leaving private, but then the daughter isn’t printed either. > I am using Legacy 7.5 > Thanks for any help > Sue McLachlan (NZ) > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption
You can change the wording on reports on the Marriage Information window > Wording Options tab (for the couple) as well as the wording in the reports themselves using the wording tab (for the whole report) Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Sue McLachlan wrote: > Hi, > I have a solo mother on my tree who has adopted a child and I can’t get rid > of the “unknown” father on the reports. > I have read past posts and tried the following: > Under customise, I have turned the unknown to just leave blank. but it still > comes up. > Tried the did not marry. > Tried leaving private, but then the daughter isn’t printed either. > I am using Legacy 7.5 > Thanks for any help > Sue McLachlan (NZ) > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption
Good plan, thanks – I’ll do that for now – Maybe Legacy can sort a solo parent option sometime! Cheers Sue From: Robert57P_gmail Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 10:19 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption This isn't really what you wanted, but it may be a decent work-around: Add a "spouse" with a name of "None" or "No spouse" or "single parent" or "unwed adoption" or "single adoption" or some such thing. At least that way when it shows up in a report it will be somewhat obvious there here is no spouse involved. In other words, if ya can't fight 'em, join 'em . . . Bob On 10/03/2013 16:21, Sue McLachlan wrote: Thanks all for the comments. I understand that it will put in another person, I’m just really keen for it to not be unknown on the report. The adoptive mother does not have a partner and never has so putting an “unknown†partner in there is not correct. There must be a way of getting rid of the unknown part and just leave it blank. The birth mother and father are unknown and that’s fine, I am happy with that, but the adoptive mother doesn’t have an unknown partner – there just isn’t one. Maybe it is a glitch with the “just leave blank†option under customise??? Thanks for your help. Sue   From: Ron Ferguson Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 9:02 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption  Jay, Whilst what you say is true, I suspect that Sue is asking a different question. Initially she says "a solo mother" there is an implication here that this was the situation at the time of the adoption. If that was the case then the addition of an unknown male partner to Sue would be incorrect. If, Sue, that is the case, please do let us know so that we are aware of the exact situation. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Jay 1FamilyTree mailto:1familytree@gmail.com wrote: Sue,  Stop trying to get rid of it and look for a way to word your 'father' and mother of the adopted child, that works well for you.  The child was not an immaculate conception, so he/she has biological parents.  Personally, I use UnknownM for the father and UnknownF for the mother as biological parents, and then list the child as adopted underneath the mother and her 'other' (and even if she doesnt have any significant other relationship , the way Legacy is currently written, you cannot get around it)  Jay     On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Sue McLachlan wrote: Hi, I have a solo mother on my tree who has adopted a child and I can’t get rid of the “unknown†father on the reports. I have read past posts and tried the following: Under customise, I have turned the unknown to just leave blank. but it still comes up. Tried the did not marry. Tried leaving private, but then the daughter isn’t printed either. I am using Legacy 7.5 Thanks for any help Sue McLachlan (NZ)  Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp  Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiqu
RE: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption
Until the software is changed, there will be the requirement that two parents are needed. Even at this time one MUST be male and the other female and they are to be married. Some programs are starting to make these changes in the new releases; maybe Legacy will see the day light and put this in version 8. Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus == From: Sue McLachlan [mailto:sue...@clear.net.nz] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 1:22 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption Thanks all for the comments. I understand that it will put in another person, I’m just really keen for it to not be unknown on the report. The adoptive mother does not have a partner and never has so putting an “unknown” partner in there is not correct. There must be a way of getting rid of the unknown part and just leave it blank. The birth mother and father are unknown and that’s fine, I am happy with that, but the adoptive mother doesn’t have an unknown partner – there just isn’t one. Maybe it is a glitch with the “just leave blank” option under customise??? Thanks for your help. Sue From: Ron Ferguson <mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 9:02 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption Jay, Whilst what you say is true, I suspect that Sue is asking a different question. Initially she says "a solo mother" there is an implication here that this was the situation at the time of the adoption. If that was the case then the addition of an unknown male partner to Sue would be incorrect. If, Sue, that is the case, please do let us know so that we are aware of the exact situation. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Jay 1FamilyTree <1familytree@gmail.com> wrote: Sue, Stop trying to get rid of it and look for a way to word your 'father' and mother of the adopted child, that works well for you. The child was not an immaculate conception, so he/she has biological parents. Personally, I use UnknownM for the father and UnknownF for the mother as biological parents, and then list the child as adopted underneath the mother and her 'other' (and even if she doesnt have any significant other relationship , the way Legacy is currently written, you cannot get around it) Jay On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Sue McLachlan wrote: Hi, I have a solo mother on my tree who has adopted a child and I can’t get rid of the “unknown” father on the reports. I have read past posts and tried the following: Under customise, I have turned the unknown to just leave blank. but it still comes up. Tried the did not marry. Tried leaving private, but then the daughter isn’t printed either. I am using Legacy 7.5 Thanks for any help Sue McLachlan (NZ) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after
Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption
This isn't really what you wanted, but it may be a decent work-around: Add a "spouse" with a name of "None" or "No spouse" or "single parent" or "unwed adoption" or "single adoption" or some such thing. At least that way when it shows up in a report it will be somewhat obvious there here is no spouse involved. In other words, if ya can't fight 'em, join 'em . . . Bob On 10/03/2013 16:21, Sue McLachlan wrote: > Thanks all for the comments. > I understand that it will put in another person, I’m just really keen > for it to not be unknown on the report. The adoptive mother does not > have a partner and never has so putting an “unknown†partner in there > is not correct. There must be a way of getting rid of the unknown part > and just leave it blank. The birth mother and father are unknown and > that’s fine, I am happy with that, but the adoptive mother doesn’t > have an unknown partner – there just isn’t one. > Maybe it is a glitch with the “just leave blank†option under customise??? > Thanks for your help. > Sue > *From:* Ron Ferguson <mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk> > *Sent:* Thursday, October 03, 2013 9:02 PM > *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > <mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com> > *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption > Jay, > > Whilst what you say is true, I suspect that Sue is asking a different > question. > > Initially she says "a solo mother" there is an implication here that > this was the situation at the time of the adoption. > > If that was the case then the addition of an unknown male partner to > Sue would be incorrect. > > If, Sue, that is the case, please do let us know so that we are aware > of the exact situation. > > Ron Ferguson > http://www.fergys.co.uk/ > > Jay 1FamilyTree <1familytree@gmail.com> wrote: > > Sue, > Stop trying to get rid of it and look for a way to word your 'father' > and mother of the adopted child, that works well for you. > The child was not an immaculate conception, so he/she has biological > parents. > Personally, I use UnknownM for the father and UnknownF for the mother > as biological parents, and then list the child as adopted underneath > the mother and her 'other' > (and even if she doesnt have any significant other relationship , the > way Legacy is currently written, you cannot get around it) > Jay > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Sue McLachlan <mailto:sue...@clear.net.nz>> wrote: > > Hi, > I have a solo mother on my tree who has adopted a child and I > can’t get rid of the “unknown†father on the reports. > I have read past posts and tried the following: > Under customise, I have turned the unknown to just leave blank. > but it still comes up. > Tried the did not marry. > Tried leaving private, but then the daughter isn’t printed either. > I am using Legacy 7.5 > Thanks for any help > Sue McLachlan (NZ) > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook > (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog > (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) > and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/Legacy
Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption
Thanks all for the comments. I understand that it will put in another person, I’m just really keen for it to not be unknown on the report. The adoptive mother does not have a partner and never has so putting an “unknown” partner in there is not correct. There must be a way of getting rid of the unknown part and just leave it blank. The birth mother and father are unknown and that’s fine, I am happy with that, but the adoptive mother doesn’t have an unknown partner – there just isn’t one. Maybe it is a glitch with the “just leave blank” option under customise??? Thanks for your help. Sue From: Ron Ferguson Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 9:02 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption Jay, Whilst what you say is true, I suspect that Sue is asking a different question. Initially she says "a solo mother" there is an implication here that this was the situation at the time of the adoption. If that was the case then the addition of an unknown male partner to Sue would be incorrect. If, Sue, that is the case, please do let us know so that we are aware of the exact situation. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Jay 1FamilyTree <1familytree@gmail.com> wrote: Sue, Stop trying to get rid of it and look for a way to word your 'father' and mother of the adopted child, that works well for you. The child was not an immaculate conception, so he/she has biological parents. Personally, I use UnknownM for the father and UnknownF for the mother as biological parents, and then list the child as adopted underneath the mother and her 'other' (and even if she doesnt have any significant other relationship , the way Legacy is currently written, you cannot get around it) Jay On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Sue McLachlan wrote: Hi, I have a solo mother on my tree who has adopted a child and I can’t get rid of the “unknown” father on the reports. I have read past posts and tried the following: Under customise, I have turned the unknown to just leave blank. but it still comes up. Tried the did not marry. Tried leaving private, but then the daughter isn’t printed either. I am using Legacy 7.5 Thanks for any help Sue McLachlan (NZ) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption
Thanks Kathy, Doesn’t work unfortunately – still says unknown. I’m wondering if it is a glitch with the unknown vs blank issue. Sue From: Kathy Thompson Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 5:47 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption try this - not sure if it will work the way you want though, but it appears to work for me if I had this situation On the family view with your adopted child as the selected person, click on the parents icon (4th from right under the person's brief info) In that "Parents of (name)" pop up, set the "Relationship to Mother" to Adopted, and tick the Private box against "Relationship to father" Then click close and run your report again fingers crossed that gives the result you want. Kathy On 3 October 2013 14:21, Sue McLachlan wrote: Hi, I have a solo mother on my tree who has adopted a child and I can’t get rid of the “unknown” father on the reports. I have read past posts and tried the following: Under customise, I have turned the unknown to just leave blank. but it still comes up. Tried the did not marry. Tried leaving private, but then the daughter isn’t printed either. I am using Legacy 7.5 Thanks for any help Sue McLachlan (NZ) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption
This is how I record these single parent adoptions in Legacy. Add a new marriage status "Single Parent Adoption" and apply that to the marriage record that is linking the adopted child to the single parent. Leave the spouse blank because there is not a spouse. Legacy could provide a way to eliminate showing the spouse as "Unknown" for this marriage status. Jay is absolutely correct where he says there is no way around it. Children are linked to their parents (or parent) with a marriage record regardless of whether there was actually a marriage. Ron Taylor From: Ron Ferguson To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2013 2:02 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption Jay, Whilst what you say is true, I suspect that Sue is asking a different question. Initially she says "a solo mother" there is an implication here that this was the situation at the time of the adoption. If that was the case then the addition of an unknown male partner to Sue would be incorrect. If, Sue, that is the case, please do let us know so that we are aware of the exact situation. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Jay 1FamilyTree <1familytree@gmail.com> wrote: Sue, Stop trying to get rid of it and look for a way to word your 'father' and mother of the adopted child, that works well for you. The child was not an immaculate conception, so he/she has biological parents. Personally, I use UnknownM for the father and UnknownF for the mother as biological parents, and then list the child as adopted underneath the mother and her 'other' (and even if she doesnt have any significant other relationship , the way Legacy is currently written, you cannot get around it) Jay On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Sue McLachlan wrote: Hi, >I have a solo mother on my tree who has adopted a child and I can’t get rid of the “unknown” father on the reports. >I have read past posts and tried the following: >Under customise, I have turned the unknown to just leave blank. but it still comes up. >Tried the did not marry. >Tried leaving private, but then the daughter isn’t printed either. >I am using Legacy 7.5 >Thanks for any help >Sue McLachlan (NZ) > > >Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on >our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption
Jay, Whilst what you say is true, I suspect that Sue is asking a different question. Initially she says "a solo mother" there is an implication here that this was the situation at the time of the adoption. If that was the case then the addition of an unknown male partner to Sue would be incorrect. If, Sue, that is the case, please do let us know so that we are aware of the exact situation. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ Jay 1FamilyTree <1familytree@gmail.com> wrote: >Sue, > >Stop trying to get rid of it and look for a way to word your 'father' and >mother of the adopted child, that works well for you. > >The child was not an immaculate conception, so he/she has biological >parents. > >Personally, I use UnknownM for the father and UnknownF for the mother as >biological parents, and then list the child as adopted underneath the >mother and her 'other' >(and even if she doesnt have any significant other relationship , the way >Legacy is currently written, you cannot get around it) > >Jay > > > > > > >On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Sue McLachlan wrote: > >> Hi, >> I have a solo mother on my tree who has adopted a child and I can’t get >> rid of the “unknown” father on the reports. >> I have read past posts and tried the following: >> Under customise, I have turned the unknown to just leave blank. but it >> still comes up. >> Tried the did not marry. >> Tried leaving private, but then the daughter isn’t printed either. >> I am using Legacy 7.5 >> Thanks for any help >> Sue McLachlan (NZ) >> >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and >> on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >> > > > >Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on >our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption
Kathy, Great Suggestion !! On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Kathy Thompson wrote: > try this - not sure if it will work the way you want though, but it > appears to work for me if I had this situation > > On the family view with your adopted child as the selected person, click > on the parents icon (4th from right under the person's brief info) > In that "Parents of (name)" pop up, set the "Relationship to Mother" to > Adopted, and tick the Private box against "Relationship to father" > Then click close and run your report again > > fingers crossed that gives the result you want. > > Kathy > > > > On 3 October 2013 14:21, Sue McLachlan wrote: > >> Hi, >> I have a solo mother on my tree who has adopted a child and I can’t get >> rid of the “unknown” father on the reports. >> I have read past posts and tried the following: >> Under customise, I have turned the unknown to just leave blank. but it >> still comes up. >> Tried the did not marry. >> Tried leaving private, but then the daughter isn’t printed either. >> I am using Legacy 7.5 >> Thanks for any help >> Sue McLachlan (NZ) >> >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >> Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and >> on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >> > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and > on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption
Sue, Stop trying to get rid of it and look for a way to word your 'father' and mother of the adopted child, that works well for you. The child was not an immaculate conception, so he/she has biological parents. Personally, I use UnknownM for the father and UnknownF for the mother as biological parents, and then list the child as adopted underneath the mother and her 'other' (and even if she doesnt have any significant other relationship , the way Legacy is currently written, you cannot get around it) Jay On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Sue McLachlan wrote: > Hi, > I have a solo mother on my tree who has adopted a child and I can’t get > rid of the “unknown” father on the reports. > I have read past posts and tried the following: > Under customise, I have turned the unknown to just leave blank. but it > still comes up. > Tried the did not marry. > Tried leaving private, but then the daughter isn’t printed either. > I am using Legacy 7.5 > Thanks for any help > Sue McLachlan (NZ) > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and > on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption
try this - not sure if it will work the way you want though, but it appears to work for me if I had this situation On the family view with your adopted child as the selected person, click on the parents icon (4th from right under the person's brief info) In that "Parents of (name)" pop up, set the "Relationship to Mother" to Adopted, and tick the Private box against "Relationship to father" Then click close and run your report again fingers crossed that gives the result you want. Kathy On 3 October 2013 14:21, Sue McLachlan wrote: > Hi, > I have a solo mother on my tree who has adopted a child and I can’t get > rid of the “unknown” father on the reports. > I have read past posts and tried the following: > Under customise, I have turned the unknown to just leave blank. but it > still comes up. > Tried the did not marry. > Tried leaving private, but then the daughter isn’t printed either. > I am using Legacy 7.5 > Thanks for any help > Sue McLachlan (NZ) > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and > on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Solo parent adoption
Hi, I have a solo mother on my tree who has adopted a child and I can’t get rid of the “unknown” father on the reports. I have read past posts and tried the following: Under customise, I have turned the unknown to just leave blank. but it still comes up. Tried the did not marry. Tried leaving private, but then the daughter isn’t printed either. I am using Legacy 7.5 Thanks for any help Sue McLachlan (NZ) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
