RE: [LegacyUG] suggestion I submitted
Me too! I have never been able to see why it is seen as a problem that a source might only refer to a particular item of information. The details of the source clearly show what bit it refers to. If there is any doubt I might add a note such as "provided the second name of xyz" or "provided exact date of birth rather than just year" or something appropriate. Cheers Jan -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2012 04:06 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] suggestion I submitted On 20/02/2012 13:49, Michele Lewis wrote: > I just submitted this suggestion. I hope other would want this too. > > “I think you should make it where the date of birth and the place of > birth are separate fields when it comes to sourcing. > > Death certificates often give the place of birth for the deceased's > parents but not the date. > > The census records also give a place of birth for the parents but not > the date. > > If you use one of the above as a source for the date of birth/place of > birth, it appears as though the source named both.” > In an ideal world it would be good, but as I include all the details and/or the full text in my Sources it is possible to see exactly what is being Sourced by any particular citation. It's quite possible that I will know, from a variety of Sources that someone was born on ddmmm in Anytown, County, Someland but some of the Sources I cite might only give the date, or might only give the year, or might only give the County or might only give the Country. By referring to the wording of each ciation and any Citation Text I have included I can see precisely what information came from where. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] suggestion I submitted
Yeah, I agree with that also. It would complicate things and make more work for most people to have separate sources, I think. Instead, where there are different sources for the birth date and birth place, could you simply indicate: Source for Date Source for Place or whatever, as part of the detail? I think that would be better than adding a field that many people would consider not needed for most records. --Jerry - http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org On 02/20/2012 02:24 PM, Alan Pereira wrote: > I would prefer to apply one or more sources to the whole birth event and not > have to apply them separately to parts of the birth event. > Alan Pereira > > -Original Message- > From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] > Sent: 20 February 2012 17:06 > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] suggestion I submitted > > On 20/02/2012 13:49, Michele Lewis wrote: >> I just submitted this suggestion. I hope other would want this too. >> >> “I think you should make it where the date of birth and the place of >> birth are separate fields when it comes to sourcing. >> >> Death certificates often give the place of birth for the deceased's >> parents but not the date. >> >> The census records also give a place of birth for the parents but not >> the date. >> >> If you use one of the above as a source for the date of birth/place of >> birth, it appears as though the source named both.†>> > > In an ideal world it would be good, but as I include all the details and/or > the full text in my Sources it is possible to see exactly what is being > Sourced by any particular citation. > > It's quite possible that I will know, from a variety of Sources that someone > was born on ddmmm in Anytown, County, Someland but some of the Sources I > cite might only give the date, or might only give the year, or might only > give the County or might only give the Country. By referring to the wording > of each ciation and any Citation Text I have included I can see precisely > what information came from where. > > -- > Jenny M Benson > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on > our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on > our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] suggestion I submitted
On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 19:24:23 -, "Alan Pereira" wrote: >I would prefer to apply one or more sources to the whole birth event and not >have to apply them separately to parts of the birth event. I don't think this suggestion will ever see the light of day as a Legacy enhancement. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools/Custom Programming) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] suggestion I submitted
I would prefer to apply one or more sources to the whole birth event and not have to apply them separately to parts of the birth event. Alan Pereira -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: 20 February 2012 17:06 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] suggestion I submitted On 20/02/2012 13:49, Michele Lewis wrote: > I just submitted this suggestion. I hope other would want this too. > > “I think you should make it where the date of birth and the place of > birth are separate fields when it comes to sourcing. > > Death certificates often give the place of birth for the deceased's > parents but not the date. > > The census records also give a place of birth for the parents but not > the date. > > If you use one of the above as a source for the date of birth/place of > birth, it appears as though the source named both.†> In an ideal world it would be good, but as I include all the details and/or the full text in my Sources it is possible to see exactly what is being Sourced by any particular citation. It's quite possible that I will know, from a variety of Sources that someone was born on ddmmm in Anytown, County, Someland but some of the Sources I cite might only give the date, or might only give the year, or might only give the County or might only give the Country. By referring to the wording of each ciation and any Citation Text I have included I can see precisely what information came from where. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] suggestion I submitted
Because we ask for a lot of stuff, and we haven't made enough noise about this one, not to mention the things they need to add to attract new customers. Not intending to sound as cynical as I do! Probably because I used to be in software development. I'm sure there is some sort of change to the database, and that logic is everywhere--these are the original fields we're talking about, not recently added ones. And there is a workaround--using the notes (as already suggested here), and I think some folks put something into the detail citation text or comment to indicate what data specifically is supported by that source. --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: Michele Lewis To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Mon, February 20, 2012 9:15:23 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] suggestion I submitted So why do you think they don’t change it if other people have suggested it? michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] suggestion I submitted
On 20/02/2012 13:49, Michele Lewis wrote: > I just submitted this suggestion. I hope other would want this too. > > “I think you should make it where the date of birth and the place of > birth are separate fields when it comes to sourcing. > > Death certificates often give the place of birth for the deceased's > parents but not the date. > > The census records also give a place of birth for the parents but not > the date. > > If you use one of the above as a source for the date of birth/place of > birth, it appears as though the source named both.†> In an ideal world it would be good, but as I include all the details and/or the full text in my Sources it is possible to see exactly what is being Sourced by any particular citation. It's quite possible that I will know, from a variety of Sources that someone was born on ddmmm in Anytown, County, Someland but some of the Sources I cite might only give the date, or might only give the year, or might only give the County or might only give the Country. By referring to the wording of each ciation and any Citation Text I have included I can see precisely what information came from where. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] suggestion I submitted
Michele, This is a suggestion which has been mooted many times over the years, together with many similar instances. Given names and surnames come to mind where, especially for females, one has to use a marriage for a maiden name having already obtained the given name from a census. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ From: Michele Lewis Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 1:49 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] suggestion I submitted I just submitted this suggestion. I hope other would want this too. “I think you should make it where the date of birth and the place of birth are separate fields when it comes to sourcing. Death certificates often give the place of birth for the deceased's parents but not the date. The census records also give a place of birth for the parents but not the date. If you use one of the above as a source for the date of birth/place of birth, it appears as though the source named both.” Michele Lewis Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
