RE: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[Sherry/Support]

I see a message from you was received on 26 Apr and is in the queue to be 
handled by one of our support techs.

You should hear back from someone fairly quickly.  During the first part of the 
week it takes a little longer since we need to go through the weekend emails 
before we get to the Monday emails.

Thanks for using Legacy.

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-Original Message-
From: leo macdonald [mailto:macdonald...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 12:45 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010



Hi Brian,

I sent in a bug report last evening but have not heard anything so far.

Prior to the latest update, when I ran the set relationships it worked fine.

I have nearly 69,000 people in my program, I have the set selationships set at 
10 Closest relationships and 0 closest paths, this will result in over 100,000 
checked paths. The counter would increase by 500 at a time and this process 
would take approximately 5 minutes.

I have run the set relationships several times since the update was installed 
yesterday, each time the program works properly until it reaches 3500, then it 
stops, hangs or freezes, whatever yuo want to call it.

I just tried it again, it went to 3500 and stopped, I waited 20 minutes and it 
was still at 3500, I clicked cancel and waited 2 minutes, nothing changed, I 
clicked cancel again, this time I noticed at the top of the set relationships 
window the following: (Not Responding).
I waited another 2 minutes then clicked cancel, after waiting another 2 minutes 
I clicked the X box on the upper right side of the set relationships window.

A new popup window with End Program came up and I clicked  the End now, this 
closed my Legacy program.

Leo





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RE: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[CE Wood]

Interesting how we humans do that:

My baby walked at nine months - MY baby walked at eight months!
My child read before kindergarten - MY child was reading at birth!
My genealogy has 10 million people - I may have "only" 1 million, but they all 
are documented by original sources (the actual certificates).

My (whatever) is bigger/better/fancier/more expensive/less expensive/more 
"green"/ ad infinitum than yours!

The "my method is right according to me, so yours MUST be wrong," is a belief 
of those who are need the support of others because they really doubt their 
method.

And so it goes.  Legacy is great, when new builds don't ruin things that worked 
fine before, because it is SO varied that almost every method can be 
accommodated!


CE


-Original Message-
From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES [mailto:fourpa...@verizon.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:02 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

I agree completely. I have in the past been put down by someone who implied 
that I had too many people, I MUST have cheated somehow. (Their words)
Rich in LA CA

--- On Tue, 4/27/10, Ron Ferguson  wrote:

> From: Ron Ferguson 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 11:37 PM
> Rich,
>
> I don't think that they are any different from any other
> family, except that
> their trees are more readily available. The number of
> descendants which one
> has available depends on how many generations one goes back
> and which
> non-direct line ancestors one wishes to include.
>
> Status is not relevent. After around 10years research I
> have some 4000
> "relatives" ie those with a connection to my family, no
> matter how distant.
> Where very large files are likely to be more more common
> are with One-Name
> studies, especially when many people are contributing their
> research.
>
> In my view, many number counters simply download trees
> from, say Ancestry,
> without checking each record to ensure its accuracy and
> present it as their
> own work. To my mind this is not genealogy, and I certainly
> would not find
> any satisfaction in doing this. A tree of 2000 well
> researched and
> documented individuals is much more valuable historically,
> and to the family
> involved.
>
> So, Graham, I agree with you. You are missing nothing and
> probably have a
> much superior tree than number crunchers. However, I am not
> suggesting that
> all large trees may be defective, just many of them!
>
> Ron Ferguson
> _
>
> Completely rewritten and revised:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk
> Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
> And the Fergusons of N.W. England
> ____________________________
>
> ----- Original Message -
> From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Sent: 28 April 2010 04:35
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release
> Build - 25 April
> 2010
>
>
> Anyone who conects to any Royals, has at least 15000
> documented ancestors.
> Rich in LA CA
>
> --- On Tue, 4/27/10, Graham 
> wrote:
>
>
> From: Graham 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release
> Build - 25 April
> 2010
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 7:46 PM
>
>
> 
> Hello all,
>
> I am just wondering how so many people have 20,000 plus in
> their family
> tree. I have been doing my tree for just over 12 years now
> and have roughly
> 2,000 relations included. Quite a lot of those are what I
> regard as twigs,
> rather than branches, and only added as I was reasonably
> happy with the
> quality of research shown by my distant cousins. From what
> I have seen, the
> further back you go in time though, the more unreliable the
> information
> becomes. So now, I am not really looking for any more
> people to add, but
> rather more information on the close relations that I
> already have. I guess
> the size of families comes into it, but am I missing
> something here?
>
> Regards, Graham
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Brian/Support
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 4:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release
> Build - 25 April
> 2010
>
>
> It counts the number of paths between people. For a large
> file like
> yours there are many many paths to check. With that many
> people try
> letting the Set Relationships run for at least 5 minutes
> before decid

Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[Robert Carneal USA]

OUCH!!!  I did mean to say Legacy is a real stable
program.  Apologies   to the Millennia group on my slip-up; it was
not intentional. And apologies to the group for the confusion.

Thanks for catching that, Dermot.

Robert


At 2010-04-28  08:52 AM, you wrote:
>I assume that was a freudian slip, Robert, and you meant to say that
>"Legacy is a real stable program" and not "Legacy is a real stable
>problem" ;-)
>
>Regards,
>
>Dermot.
>
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>
>
>
>On 28 April 2010 14:13, Robert Carneal USA  wrote:
> > You can think of it that way if you want. The developers are
> always striving
> > to correct anything users report wrong plus they will make some
> improvements
> > along the way.
> >
> > You don't have to download them, but it is often best if you do.
> Legacy is a
> > real stable problem, but if you are worried about a new version messing up
> > your family data, that can be prevented by making and faithful backups.
> >
> > Robert



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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[D MG]

I assume that was a freudian slip, Robert, and you meant to say that
"Legacy is a real stable program" and not "Legacy is a real stable
problem" ;-)

Regards,

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On 28 April 2010 14:13, Robert Carneal USA  wrote:
> You can think of it that way if you want. The developers are always striving
> to correct anything users report wrong plus they will make some improvements
> along the way.
>
> You don't have to download them, but it is often best if you do. Legacy is a
> real stable problem, but if you are worried about a new version messing up
> your family data, that can be prevented by making and faithful backups.
>
> Robert



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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[Robert Carneal USA]

You can think of it that way if you want. The developers are always
striving to correct anything users report wrong plus they will make
some improvements along the way.

You don't have to download them, but it is often best if you do.
Legacy is a real stable problem, but if you are worried about a new
version messing up your family data, that can be prevented by making
and faithful backups.

Robert

At 2010-04-28  01:34 AM, you wrote:
>I am new to Legacy, and this might seem like  a silly question, but
>is this "release build"  like an upgrade which should be downloaded?
>Belinda Cohen
>
>
>
>From: Ken McGinnis 
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Sent: Mon, 26 April, 2010 3:37:06 PM
>Subject: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010
>
>We have a new build.  Here is a list of changes:
>http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory7.asp
>
>
>Thanks
>
>Ken McGinnis



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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[Belinda Cohen]

Thank you - I wondered because some people seemed to be having problems with it.
Belinda





From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, 28 April, 2010 5:07:58 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010


This is corrections and additions to the program. It is never required to do 
the download each time. Some people wait a few days to see if it had new 
problems ( not as often as in  the past), or wait until the list of changes 
gets too long, or affects what you use most. Each update includes ALL previous 
ones, so a missed one doesn't matter in the long run.
Rich in LA CA

--- On Tue, 4/27/10, Belinda Cohen  wrote:


>From: Belinda Cohen 
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 11:34 PM
>
>
> >
>I am new to Legacy, and this might seem like  a silly question, but is this 
>"release build"  like an upgrade which should be downloaded?
>Belinda Cohen
>
>
>
>
>

 From: Ken McGinnis 
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Sent: Mon, 26 April, 2010 3:37:06 PM
>Subject: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010
>
>We have a new build.  Here is a list of changes:
>http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory7.asp
>
>
>Thanks
>
>Ken McGinnis
>Millennia Corporation
>kenmcgin...@legacyfamilytree.com
>http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[Graham]

- Original Message -
From: Reg SHERLOCK
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25
April 2010


Hello Graham, It is very easy to exceed 20,000 if you do an extended
family lines tree instead of a pure bloodline. Reg oh isn't genealogy
fun.

.

Reg, I will have to believe you. I guess each to his own, but direct
lines, rather than "twigs", are all that I'm interested in, otherwise
where do you draw the "extended  line"...so to speak. If you extend
the thousands into millions and so on...then I guess we are all
related.

As I said though...2,000 is already above my 'varification' ability.

...and thanks Ron for your input.

Regards to all, Graham

...

From: Graham
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 4:13 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25
April 2010


- Original Message -
From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25
April 2010


Anyone who conects to any Royals, has at least 15000 documented
ancestors.
Rich in LA CA


Ah. Ok...well I am very glad I have no connection to Royals ;-) My lot
is hard enough as it is. Thanks Rich.

Regards, Graham







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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

This is corrections and additions to the program. It is never required to do 
the download each time. Some people wait a few days to see if it had new 
problems ( not as often as in  the past), or wait until the list of changes 
gets too long, or affects what you use most. Each update includes ALL previous 
ones, so a missed one doesn't matter in the long run.
Rich in LA CA

--- On Tue, 4/27/10, Belinda Cohen  wrote:


From: Belinda Cohen 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 11:34 PM






I am new to Legacy, and this might seem like  a silly question, but is this 
"release build"  like an upgrade which should be downloaded?
Belinda Cohen






From: Ken McGinnis 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Mon, 26 April, 2010 3:37:06 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

We have a new build.  Here is a list of changes:
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory7.asp


Thanks

Ken McGinnis
Millennia Corporation
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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[Laurence E Stephenson]

Yes

On 28 April 2010 16:34, Belinda Cohen  wrote:
> I am new to Legacy, and this might seem like  a silly question, but is this
> "release build"  like an upgrade which should be downloaded?
> Belinda Cohen
>
>
> 
> From: Ken McGinnis 
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Sent: Mon, 26 April, 2010 3:37:06 PM
> Subject: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010
>
> We have a new build.  Here is a list of changes:
> http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory7.asp
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Ken McGinnis
> Millennia Corporation
> kenmcgin...@legacyfamilytree.com
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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I agree completely. I have in the past been put down by someone who implied 
that I had too many people, I MUST have cheated somehow. (Their words)
Rich in LA CA

--- On Tue, 4/27/10, Ron Ferguson  wrote:

> From: Ron Ferguson 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 11:37 PM
> Rich,
>
> I don't think that they are any different from any other
> family, except that
> their trees are more readily available. The number of
> descendants which one
> has available depends on how many generations one goes back
> and which
> non-direct line ancestors one wishes to include.
>
> Status is not relevent. After around 10years research I
> have some 4000
> "relatives" ie those with a connection to my family, no
> matter how distant.
> Where very large files are likely to be more more common
> are with One-Name
> studies, especially when many people are contributing their
> research.
>
> In my view, many number counters simply download trees
> from, say Ancestry,
> without checking each record to ensure its accuracy and
> present it as their
> own work. To my mind this is not genealogy, and I certainly
> would not find
> any satisfaction in doing this. A tree of 2000 well
> researched and
> documented individuals is much more valuable historically,
> and to the family
> involved.
>
> So, Graham, I agree with you. You are missing nothing and
> probably have a
> much superior tree than number crunchers. However, I am not
> suggesting that
> all large trees may be defective, just many of them!
>
> Ron Ferguson
> _
>
> Completely rewritten and revised:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk
> Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
> And the Fergusons of N.W. England
> ________
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Sent: 28 April 2010 04:35
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release
> Build - 25 April
> 2010
>
>
> Anyone who conects to any Royals, has at least 15000
> documented ancestors.
> Rich in LA CA
>
> --- On Tue, 4/27/10, Graham 
> wrote:
>
>
> From: Graham 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release
> Build - 25 April
> 2010
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 7:46 PM
>
>
> 
> Hello all,
>
> I am just wondering how so many people have 20,000 plus in
> their family
> tree. I have been doing my tree for just over 12 years now
> and have roughly
> 2,000 relations included. Quite a lot of those are what I
> regard as twigs,
> rather than branches, and only added as I was reasonably
> happy with the
> quality of research shown by my distant cousins. From what
> I have seen, the
> further back you go in time though, the more unreliable the
> information
> becomes. So now, I am not really looking for any more
> people to add, but
> rather more information on the close relations that I
> already have. I guess
> the size of families comes into it, but am I missing
> something here?
>
> Regards, Graham
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Brian/Support
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 4:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release
> Build - 25 April
> 2010
>
>
> It counts the number of paths between people. For a large
> file like
> yours there are many many paths to check. With that many
> people try
> letting the Set Relationships run for at least 5 minutes
> before deciding
> it will not finish.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
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>
> We are changing the world of genealogy!
> When replying to this message, please include all previous
> correspondence.
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>
> On 26/04/2010 1:16 PM, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:
> > Ron,
> > I spoke too soon. Set Relationships worked 4th time
> but I was on my 5th
> > Great-Grandmother.
> > It completes for either of my parents. It completes
> for myself if I
> > change defaults of 5 Blood and 2 Non-blood to 4
> Blood.
> > Ron, I have 30,000 individuals but that counter went
> to 68,000 so not
> > sure what it counts.
> > --
> > Richard Van Wasshnova
> > http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova
> > http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova
> > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Ron Ferguson
> >  <mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk>>

Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[Belinda Cohen]

I am new to Legacy, and this might seem like  a silly question, but is this 
"release build"  like an upgrade which should be downloaded?
Belinda Cohen






From: Ken McGinnis 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Mon, 26 April, 2010 3:37:06 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

We have a new build.  Here is a list of changes:
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory7.asp


Thanks

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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[Reg SHERLOCK]

Hello Graham, It is very easy to exceed 20,000 if you do an extended family 
lines tree instead of a pure bloodline. Reg oh isn't genealogy fun.





From: Graham
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 4:13 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010


- Original Message -
  From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 1:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010


Anyone who conects to any Royals, has at least 15000 documented 
ancestors.
Rich in LA CA


Ah. Ok...well I am very glad I have no connection to Royals ;-) My lot 
is hard enough as it is. Thanks Rich.

Regards, Graham



--- On Tue, 4/27/10, Graham  wrote:


  From: Graham 
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 
April 2010
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 7:46 PM


  
  Hello all,

  I am just wondering how so many people have 20,000 plus in their 
family tree. I have been doing my tree for just over 12 years now and have 
roughly 2,000 relations included. Quite a lot of those are what I regard as 
twigs, rather than branches, and only added as I was reasonably happy with the 
quality of research shown by my distant cousins. From what I have seen, the 
further back you go in time though, the more unreliable the information 
becomes. So now, I am not really looking for any more people to add, but rather 
more information on the close relations that I already have. I guess the size 
of families comes into it, but am I missing something here?

  Regards, Graham


  - Original Message -
From: Brian/Support
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 4:40 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 
April 2010


It counts the number of paths between people. For a large file like
yours there are many many paths to check. With that many people try
letting the Set Relationships run for at least 5 minutes before 
deciding
it will not finish.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!
When replying to this message, please include all previous 
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Thanks.

On 26/04/2010 1:16 PM, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:
> Ron,
> I spoke too soon. Set Relationships worked 4th time but I was on 
my 5th
> Great-Grandmother.
> It completes for either of my parents. It completes for myself if 
I
> change defaults of 5 Blood and 2 Non-blood to 4 Blood.
> Ron, I have 30,000 individuals but that counter went to 68,000 so 
not
> sure what it counts.
> --
> Richard Van Wasshnova
> http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova
> http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Ron Ferguson
> mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk>> 
wrote:
>
> Leo,
>
> Standard Windows procedure when resizing a screen is to exit 
using File
> Menu>Exit, this should ensure that the resizing sticks. 
Windows
> offers no
> guarantees that exiting using the "X" will do this.
>
> I have not found the Set Releationships to hang, but then I 
have not
> tried
> it with 27000 records!
>
> Ron Ferguson



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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[Ron Ferguson]

Rich,

I don't think that they are any different from any other family, except that
their trees are more readily available. The number of descendants which one
has available depends on how many generations one goes back and which
non-direct line ancestors one wishes to include.

Status is not relevent. After around 10years research I have some 4000
"relatives" ie those with a connection to my family, no matter how distant.
Where very large files are likely to be more more common are with One-Name
studies, especially when many people are contributing their research.

In my view, many number counters simply download trees from, say Ancestry,
without checking each record to ensure its accuracy and present it as their
own work. To my mind this is not genealogy, and I certainly would not find
any satisfaction in doing this. A tree of 2000 well researched and
documented individuals is much more valuable historically, and to the family
involved.

So, Graham, I agree with you. You are missing nothing and probably have a
much superior tree than number crunchers. However, I am not suggesting that
all large trees may be defective, just many of them!

Ron Ferguson
_

Completely rewritten and revised:
http://www.fergys.co.uk
Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
And the Fergusons of N.W. England


- Original Message -
From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: 28 April 2010 04:35
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April
2010


Anyone who conects to any Royals, has at least 15000 documented ancestors.
Rich in LA CA

--- On Tue, 4/27/10, Graham  wrote:


From: Graham 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April
2010
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 7:46 PM



Hello all,

I am just wondering how so many people have 20,000 plus in their family
tree. I have been doing my tree for just over 12 years now and have roughly
2,000 relations included. Quite a lot of those are what I regard as twigs,
rather than branches, and only added as I was reasonably happy with the
quality of research shown by my distant cousins. From what I have seen, the
further back you go in time though, the more unreliable the information
becomes. So now, I am not really looking for any more people to add, but
rather more information on the close relations that I already have. I guess
the size of families comes into it, but am I missing something here?

Regards, Graham


- Original Message -
From: Brian/Support
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 4:40 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April
2010


It counts the number of paths between people. For a large file like
yours there are many many paths to check. With that many people try
letting the Set Relationships run for at least 5 minutes before deciding
it will not finish.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!
When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
Thanks.

On 26/04/2010 1:16 PM, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:
> Ron,
> I spoke too soon. Set Relationships worked 4th time but I was on my 5th
> Great-Grandmother.
> It completes for either of my parents. It completes for myself if I
> change defaults of 5 Blood and 2 Non-blood to 4 Blood.
> Ron, I have 30,000 individuals but that counter went to 68,000 so not
> sure what it counts.
> --
> Richard Van Wasshnova
> http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova
> http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Ron Ferguson
> mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk>> wrote:
>
> Leo,
>
> Standard Windows procedure when resizing a screen is to exit using
> File
> Menu>Exit, this should ensure that the resizing sticks. Windows
> offers no
> guarantees that exiting using the "X" will do this.
>
> I have not found the Set Releationships to hang, but then I have not
> tried
> it with 27000 records!
>
> Ron Ferguson



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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[Graham]

- Original Message -
  From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 1:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010


Anyone who conects to any Royals, has at least 15000 documented 
ancestors.
Rich in LA CA


Ah. Ok...well I am very glad I have no connection to Royals ;-) My lot 
is hard enough as it is. Thanks Rich.

Regards, Graham



--- On Tue, 4/27/10, Graham  wrote:


  From: Graham 
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 
April 2010
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 7:46 PM


  
  Hello all,

  I am just wondering how so many people have 20,000 plus in their 
family tree. I have been doing my tree for just over 12 years now and have 
roughly 2,000 relations included. Quite a lot of those are what I regard as 
twigs, rather than branches, and only added as I was reasonably happy with the 
quality of research shown by my distant cousins. From what I have seen, the 
further back you go in time though, the more unreliable the information 
becomes. So now, I am not really looking for any more people to add, but rather 
more information on the close relations that I already have. I guess the size 
of families comes into it, but am I missing something here?

  Regards, Graham


  - Original Message -
From: Brian/Support
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 4:40 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 
April 2010


It counts the number of paths between people. For a large file like
yours there are many many paths to check. With that many people try
letting the Set Relationships run for at least 5 minutes before 
deciding
it will not finish.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!
When replying to this message, please include all previous 
correspondence.
Thanks.

On 26/04/2010 1:16 PM, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:
> Ron,
> I spoke too soon. Set Relationships worked 4th time but I was on 
my 5th
> Great-Grandmother.
> It completes for either of my parents. It completes for myself if 
I
> change defaults of 5 Blood and 2 Non-blood to 4 Blood.
> Ron, I have 30,000 individuals but that counter went to 68,000 so 
not
> sure what it counts.
> --
> Richard Van Wasshnova
> http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova
> http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Ron Ferguson
> mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk>> 
wrote:
>
> Leo,
>
> Standard Windows procedure when resizing a screen is to exit 
using File
> Menu>Exit, this should ensure that the resizing sticks. 
Windows
> offers no
> guarantees that exiting using the "X" will do this.
>
> I have not found the Set Releationships to hang, but then I 
have not
> tried
> it with 27000 records!
>
> Ron Ferguson



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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Anyone who conects to any Royals, has at least 15000 documented ancestors.
Rich in LA CA

--- On Tue, 4/27/10, Graham  wrote:


From: Graham 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 7:46 PM





Hello all,
 
I am just wondering how so many people have 20,000 plus in their family tree. I 
have been doing my tree for just over 12 years now and have roughly 2,000 
relations included. Quite a lot of those are what I regard as twigs, rather 
than branches, and only added as I was reasonably happy with the quality of 
research shown by my distant cousins. From what I have seen, the further back 
you go in time though, the more unreliable the information becomes. So now, I 
am not really looking for any more people to add, but rather more information 
on the close relations that I already have. I guess the size of families comes 
into it, but am I missing something here?
 
Regards, Graham
 
 
- Original Message -

From: Brian/Support
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 4:40 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

It counts the number of paths between people. For a large file like
yours there are many many paths to check. With that many people try
letting the Set Relationships run for at least 5 minutes before deciding
it will not finish.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!
When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
Thanks.

On 26/04/2010 1:16 PM, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:
> Ron,
> I spoke too soon. Set Relationships worked 4th time but I was on my 5th
> Great-Grandmother.
> It completes for either of my parents. It completes for myself if I
> change defaults of 5 Blood and 2 Non-blood to 4 Blood.
> Ron, I have 30,000 individuals but that counter went to 68,000 so not
> sure what it counts.
> --
> Richard Van Wasshnova
> http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova
> http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Ron Ferguson
> mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk>> wrote:
>
> Leo,
>
> Standard Windows procedure when resizing a screen is to exit using File
> Menu>Exit, this should ensure that the resizing sticks. Windows
> offers no
> guarantees that exiting using the "X" will do this.
>
> I have not found the Set Releationships to hang, but then I have not
> tried
> it with 27000 records!
>
> Ron Ferguson



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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[Graham]

Hello all,

I am just wondering how so many people have 20,000 plus in their family tree. I 
have been doing my tree for just over 12 years now and have roughly 2,000 
relations included. Quite a lot of those are what I regard as twigs, rather 
than branches, and only added as I was reasonably happy with the quality of 
research shown by my distant cousins. From what I have seen, the further back 
you go in time though, the more unreliable the information becomes. So now, I 
am not really looking for any more people to add, but rather more information 
on the close relations that I already have. I guess the size of families comes 
into it, but am I missing something here?

Regards, Graham


- Original Message -
  From: Brian/Support
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 4:40 AM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010


  It counts the number of paths between people. For a large file like
  yours there are many many paths to check. With that many people try
  letting the Set Relationships run for at least 5 minutes before deciding
  it will not finish.

  Brian
  Customer Support
  Millennia Corporation
  br...@legacyfamilytree.com
  http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

  We are changing the world of genealogy!
  When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
  Thanks.

  On 26/04/2010 1:16 PM, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:
  > Ron,
  > I spoke too soon. Set Relationships worked 4th time but I was on my 5th
  > Great-Grandmother.
  > It completes for either of my parents. It completes for myself if I
  > change defaults of 5 Blood and 2 Non-blood to 4 Blood.
  > Ron, I have 30,000 individuals but that counter went to 68,000 so not
  > sure what it counts.
  > --
  > Richard Van Wasshnova
  > http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova
  > http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova
  > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Ron Ferguson
  > mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk>> wrote:
  >
  > Leo,
  >
  > Standard Windows procedure when resizing a screen is to exit using File
  > Menu>Exit, this should ensure that the resizing sticks. Windows
  > offers no
  > guarantees that exiting using the "X" will do this.
  >
  > I have not found the Set Releationships to hang, but then I have not
  > tried
  > it with 27000 records!
  >
  > Ron Ferguson



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RE: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[leo macdonald]

Hi Brian,

I sent in a bug report last evening but have not heard anything so far.

Prior to the latest update, when I ran the set relationships it worked fine.

I have nearly 69,000 people in my program, I have the set selationships set at 
10 Closest relationships and 0 closest paths, this will result in over 100,000 
checked paths. The counter would increase by 500 at a time and this process 
would take approximately 5 minutes.

I have run the set relationships several times since the update was installed 
yesterday, each time the program works properly until it reaches 3500, then it 
stops, hangs or freezes, whatever yuo want to call it.

I just tried it again, it went to 3500 and stopped, I waited 20 minutes and it 
was still at 3500, I clicked cancel and waited 2 minutes, nothing changed, I 
clicked cancel again, this time I noticed at the top of the set relationships 
window the following: (Not Responding).
I waited another 2 minutes then clicked cancel, after waiting another 2 minutes 
I clicked the X box on the upper right side of the set relationships window.

A new popup window with End Program came up and I clicked  the End now, this 
closed my Legacy program.

Leo
> From: br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010
> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 14:40:13 -0400
>
> It counts the number of paths between people. For a large file like
> yours there are many many paths to check. With that many people try
> letting the Set Relationships run for at least 5 minutes before deciding
> it will not finish.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[Brian/Support]

It counts the number of paths between people. For a large file like
yours there are many many paths to check. With that many people try
letting the Set Relationships run for at least 5 minutes before deciding
it will not finish.

Brian
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On 26/04/2010 1:16 PM, Richard Van Wasshnova wrote:
> Ron,
> I spoke too soon. Set Relationships worked 4th time but I was on my 5th
> Great-Grandmother.
> It completes for either of my parents. It completes for myself if I
> change defaults of 5 Blood and 2 Non-blood to 4 Blood.
> Ron, I have 30,000 individuals but that counter went to 68,000 so not
> sure what it counts.
> --
> Richard Van Wasshnova
> http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova
> http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Ron Ferguson
> mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk>> wrote:
>
> Leo,
>
> Standard Windows procedure when resizing a screen is to exit using File
> Menu>Exit, this should ensure that the resizing sticks. Windows
> offers no
> guarantees that exiting using the "X" will do this.
>
> I have not found the Set Releationships to hang, but then I have not
> tried
> it with 27000 records!
>
> Ron Ferguson



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RE: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[CE Wood]

I have always needed to set relationships to 30 - 0 or else Legacy can't find 
the closest direct relationship because there are so many other relationships 
that are closer than the direct one.  That is why, with 30,000 individuals, my 
count has always been above 515,000.  That's a lot more than 90,000.

I am assuming the new facility enables showing the closest direct relationship, 
but that Legacy still has to plow through the others as before.

Since it essentially ties up my computer for several hours, I am hoping someone 
else with the same degree of interrelationships, has advice.


CE


-Original Message-
From: Evert van Dijken [mailto:evandij...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 11:14 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

I had no problems with setting relationship in my file of over 35000
individuals and I tried 5 - 2, 3 - 2 and 2 - 0. With the 5 - 2 setting
the count went just over 9. I've tested this a couple of times in
my GR and Beta.
Evert

2010/4/27 CE Wood :
> Have you tried this again?
>
> Everyone else replying seems to have much lower counts.  I am loath to update 
> because my count is 515,000, and takes several hours to run the old way.  I 
> know Access if notoriously slow, but I am wondering if my interrelations are 
> just too complicated for the program.
>
>
> CE
>
>
> From: Richard Van Wasshnova [mailto:rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 8:57 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010
>
> After update to new build the Set Relationships hangs. Tried first with 
> Closest Direct-line and then tried with Closest Relationship. Both times it 
> hangs at 27500 count.
>
> --
> Richard Van Wasshnova
> http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova
> http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova
>
> On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Ken McGinnis  
> wrote:
> We have a new build.  Here is a list of changes:
> http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory7.asp
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Ken McGinnis
> Millennia Corporation
> kenmcgin...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com



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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[Evert van Dijken]

I had no problems with setting relationship in my file of over 35000
individuals and I tried 5 - 2, 3 - 2 and 2 - 0. With the 5 - 2 setting
the count went just over 9. I've tested this a couple of times in
my GR and Beta.
Evert

2010/4/27 CE Wood :
> Have you tried this again?
>
> Everyone else replying seems to have much lower counts.  I am loath to update 
> because my count is 515,000, and takes several hours to run the old way.  I 
> know Access if notoriously slow, but I am wondering if my interrelations are 
> just too complicated for the program.
>
>
> CE
>
>
> From: Richard Van Wasshnova [mailto:rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 8:57 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010
>
> After update to new build the Set Relationships hangs. Tried first with 
> Closest Direct-line and then tried with Closest Relationship. Both times it 
> hangs at 27500 count.
>
> --
> Richard Van Wasshnova
> http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova
> http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova
>
> On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Ken McGinnis  
> wrote:
> We have a new build.  Here is a list of changes:
> http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory7.asp
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Ken McGinnis
> Millennia Corporation
> kenmcgin...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com



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RE: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[CE Wood]

Have you tried this again?

Everyone else replying seems to have much lower counts.  I am loath to update 
because my count is 515,000, and takes several hours to run the old way.  I 
know Access if notoriously slow, but I am wondering if my interrelations are 
just too complicated for the program.


CE


From: Richard Van Wasshnova [mailto:rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 8:57 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

After update to new build the Set Relationships hangs. Tried first with Closest 
Direct-line and then tried with Closest Relationship. Both times it hangs at 
27500 count.

--
Richard Van Wasshnova
http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova
http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova

On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Ken McGinnis  
wrote:
We have a new build.  Here is a list of changes:
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory7.asp


Thanks

Ken McGinnis
Millennia Corporation
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RE: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[Jack Earnshaw]

It worked fine for me with the count going up to 9000, stalling for a few 
seconds and then counting up to 24000 (about the number of names I have).

What was best of all though, was that 1/2 relationships are now shown in Family 
View

Jack


-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: 27 April 2010 00:17
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010



Richard,

Mine ran without problem with a count in excess of 4,000 - about the same as
the number of records in my files.

Ron Ferguson


RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote:
> I haven't downloaded the new one yet. I was busy on line elsewhere.
> Now I will check other e-mails to see if it is a group thing.
>
> --- On Mon, 4/26/10, leo macdonald  wrote:
>
>> From: leo macdonald 
>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25
>> April 2010 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 9:14 AM
>>
>> Hi Richard,
>>
>> My progra hangs at 3500, also since the upgrade the program
>> open with a smaller screen and each time I have to resize
>> the screen.
>>
>> Leo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 08:57:10 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release
>> Build - 25 April 2010
>> From: rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>
>>
>> After update to new build the Set Relationships hangs.
>> Tried first with Closest Direct-line and then tried with
>> Closest Relationship. Both times it hangs at 27500 count.
>>
>> --
>> Richard Van Wasshnova
>> http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova
>> http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Ken McGinnis
>>  wrote:
>>
>> We have a new build. Here is a list of changes:
>> http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory7.asp
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Ken McGinnis
>> Millennia Corporation
>> kenmcgin...@legacyfamilytree.com
>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com




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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[Ron Ferguson]

Richard,

Mine ran without problem with a count in excess of 4,000 - about the same as
the number of records in my files.

Ron Ferguson


RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote:
> I haven't downloaded the new one yet. I was busy on line elsewhere.
> Now I will check other e-mails to see if it is a group thing.
>
> --- On Mon, 4/26/10, leo macdonald  wrote:
>
>> From: leo macdonald 
>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25
>> April 2010 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 9:14 AM
>>
>> Hi Richard,
>>
>> My progra hangs at 3500, also since the upgrade the program
>> open with a smaller screen and each time I have to resize
>> the screen.
>>
>> Leo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 08:57:10 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release
>> Build - 25 April 2010
>> From: rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>
>>
>> After update to new build the Set Relationships hangs.
>> Tried first with Closest Direct-line and then tried with
>> Closest Relationship. Both times it hangs at 27500 count.
>>
>> --
>> Richard Van Wasshnova
>> http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova
>> http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Ken McGinnis
>>  wrote:
>>
>> We have a new build. Here is a list of changes:
>> http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory7.asp
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Ken McGinnis
>> Millennia Corporation
>> kenmcgin...@legacyfamilytree.com
>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com




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RE: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I haven't downloaded the new one yet. I was busy on line elsewhere. Now I will 
check other e-mails to see if it is a group thing.

--- On Mon, 4/26/10, leo macdonald  wrote:

> From: leo macdonald 
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 9:14 AM
>
> Hi Richard,
>
> My progra hangs at 3500, also since the upgrade the program
> open with a smaller screen and each time I have to resize
> the screen.
>
> Leo
>
>
>
>
> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 08:57:10 -0700
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release
> Build - 25 April 2010
> From: rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>
>
> After update to new build the Set Relationships hangs.
> Tried first with Closest Direct-line and then tried with
> Closest Relationship. Both times it hangs at 27500 count.
>
> --
> Richard Van Wasshnova
> http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova
> http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Ken McGinnis 
> wrote:
>
> We have a new build.  Here is a list of changes:
> http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory7.asp
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Ken McGinnis
> Millennia Corporation
> kenmcgin...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[Mike Fry]

On 2010/04/26 23:20, Ron Ferguson wrote:

> It's just one of those things which I picked up when learning the ins and
> outs of Windows years ago. However, I can assure you that this has also been
> my experience over many years. I am regularly resizing, mainly after using
> the Windows split screen, and whilst some programs seem to do the resizing
> themselves most do not.

I'll back you up on that one, Ron. From memory, the various methods of
causing the program to terminate, generate different commands within the
program. These then can cause termination of the program via different
code paths in the program, depending on how they have been coded. Thus,
it is quite possible for the Windows Close button (the red X in the top
right corner) to cause termination by the quickest possible route,
avoiding any actions that might work against that aim.

You'll have to take whatever Millennia says as gospel on this one. If
they say it doesn't matter how you terminate the program, then it
doesn't matter. Ken?

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[Ron Ferguson]

Sorry Brian, I can't.

It's just one of those things which I picked up when learning the ins and
outs of Windows years ago. However, I can assure you that this has also been
my experience over many years. I am regularly resizing, mainly after using
the Windows split screen, and whilst some programs seem to do the resizing
themselves most do not.

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Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:
> I’ve always believed that the Window gadget “X” makes the same calls
> as “File/Exit”. Can you cite any reference to MS saying different.
>
> Although this is not directly a Legacy issue, I can see where it
> might impact the performance of the program.
>
> Brian in CA
>
> __
>
> From: Richard Van Wasshnova [mailto:rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 9:52 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25
> April 2010
>
> Competed successfully on 4th try.
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Ron Ferguson
>  wrote:
> Leo,
>
> Standard Windows procedure when resizing a screen is to exit using
> File
> Menu>Exit, this should ensure that the resizing sticks. Windows
> offers no
> guarantees that exiting using the "X" will do this.
>
> I have not found the Set Releationships to hang, but then I have not
> tried
> it with 27000 records!
>
> Ron Ferguson
>




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RE: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[leo macdonald]

Thanks Ron,

That is probably what happened, when the Legacy program was hanging at 3500, I 
waited for quite a while before trying to close, as the program was not 
responding I had to use ctrl>alt>delete in order to close the program, then 
when I reopened the Legacy program I had to resize the screen.

Leo

> From: ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010
> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 17:42:23 +0100
>
> Leo,
>
> Standard Windows procedure when resizing a screen is to exit using File
> Menu>Exit, this should ensure that the resizing sticks. Windows offers no
> guarantees that exiting using the "X" will do this.
>
> I have not found the Set Releationships to hang, but then I have not tried
> it with 27000 records!
>
> Ron Ferguson


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RE: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[Brian L. Lightfoot]

I’ve always believed that the Window gadget “X” makes the same calls as 
“File/Exit”. Can you cite any reference to MS saying different.

Although this is not directly a Legacy issue, I can see where it might impact 
the performance of the program.

Brian in CA

__

From: Richard Van Wasshnova [mailto:rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 9:52 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

Competed successfully on 4th try.
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Ron Ferguson  
wrote:
Leo,

Standard Windows procedure when resizing a screen is to exit using File
Menu>Exit, this should ensure that the resizing sticks. Windows offers no
guarantees that exiting using the "X" will do this.

I have not found the Set Releationships to hang, but then I have not tried
it with 27000 records!

Ron Ferguson





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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[Richard Van Wasshnova]

Ron,

I spoke too soon. Set Relationships worked 4th time but I was on my 5th
Great-Grandmother.

It completes for either of my parents. It completes for myself if I change
defaults of 5 Blood and 2 Non-blood to 4 Blood.

Ron, I have 30,000 individuals but that counter went to 68,000 so not sure
what it counts.
--
Richard Van Wasshnova
http://www.gencircles.com/users/vanwasshnova
http://gw.geneanet.org/vanwasshnova


On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:

> Leo,
>
> Standard Windows procedure when resizing a screen is to exit using File
> Menu>Exit, this should ensure that the resizing sticks. Windows offers no
> guarantees that exiting using the "X" will do this.
>
> I have not found the Set Releationships to hang, but then I have not tried
> it with 27000 records!
>
> Ron Ferguson
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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[Richard Van Wasshnova]

Competed successfully on 4th try.

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote:

> Leo,
>
> Standard Windows procedure when resizing a screen is to exit using File
> Menu>Exit, this should ensure that the resizing sticks. Windows offers no
> guarantees that exiting using the "X" will do this.
>
> I have not found the Set Releationships to hang, but then I have not tried
> it with 27000 records!
>
> Ron Ferguson
> _
>
> Completely rewritten and revised:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk
> Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
> And the Fergusons of N.W. England
> 
>
>
> leo macdonald wrote:
> > Hi Richard,
> >
> > My progra hangs at 3500, also since the upgrade the program open with
> > a smaller screen and each time I have to resize the screen.
> >
> > Leo
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 08:57:10 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25
> > April 2010
> > From: rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> >
> >
> > After update to new build the Set Relationships hangs. Tried first
> > with Closest Direct-line and then tried with Closest Relationship.
> > Both times it hangs at 27500 count.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[Ron Ferguson]

Leo,

Standard Windows procedure when resizing a screen is to exit using File
Menu>Exit, this should ensure that the resizing sticks. Windows offers no
guarantees that exiting using the "X" will do this.

I have not found the Set Releationships to hang, but then I have not tried
it with 27000 records!

Ron Ferguson
_

Completely rewritten and revised:
http://www.fergys.co.uk
Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
And the Fergusons of N.W. England



leo macdonald wrote:
> Hi Richard,
>
> My progra hangs at 3500, also since the upgrade the program open with
> a smaller screen and each time I have to resize the screen.
>
> Leo
>
>
>
>
> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 08:57:10 -0700
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25
> April 2010
> From: rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>
>
> After update to new build the Set Relationships hangs. Tried first
> with Closest Direct-line and then tried with Closest Relationship.
> Both times it hangs at 27500 count.





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RE: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[leo macdonald]

Hi Richard,

My progra hangs at 3500, also since the upgrade the program open with a smaller 
screen and each time I have to resize the screen.

Leo




Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 08:57:10 -0700
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010
From: rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com


After update to new build the Set Relationships hangs. Tried first with Closest 
Direct-line and then tried with Closest Relationship. Both times it hangs at 
27500 count.

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On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Ken McGinnis  
wrote:

We have a new build.  Here is a list of changes:
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory7.asp


Thanks

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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.4.0.38 - New General Release Build - 25 April 2010

[Richard Van Wasshnova]

After update to new build the Set Relationships hangs. Tried first with
Closest Direct-line and then tried with Closest Relationship. Both times it
hangs at 27500 count.

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On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Ken McGinnis
wrote:

> We have a new build.  Here is a list of changes:
> http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory7.asp
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Ken McGinnis
> Millennia Corporation
> kenmcgin...@legacyfamilytree.com
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