Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter the following.
You could just put UNKNOWN in as the parents and add David Smith as the son of the Unknowns. Not the best way but it will work. On 2/24/2016 1:24 AM, June wrote: Sorry to all, I’m not explaining this very well am I. I have all people EXCEPT David Smith. I can’t work out how to put him on making him the first cousin of Simon Smith because I don’t have either David or Simon’s parents. I know it should be simple – I know what cousins are but it’s just escaping me. Thanks for your help June From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of Cathy Pinner Sent: Wednesday, 24 February 2016 4:16 PM To: Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter the following. June, I'm not clear whether you have David Smith and Hannah in your database. When you know the relationship but not the connecting people, you can enter placeholder people to hold them together. Is Hannah the daughter of John Jones first wife? and you don't know her name? Just enter Hannah and link her to her father. That will create a new relationship for the father. You'll need to order marriages. As Wendy says, be careful you don't enter someone twice. This is a useful Support article if you find you've made some linking errors. http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00344/14/Tips-and-How-Tos/Tips-on-Fixing-Relationship-Problems.html Cathy Wendy Howard wrote: ___ LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com -- And As You Slide Down that Banister of Life You Should Pray That All The Splinters Are Pointed The Other Way.. ___ LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com
Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter the following.
The best way would be to just add the father's surnames and leave the first names and spouses blank or use privacy brackets ie [[this is the father of John Smith]]. If you start putting initials in for N.N. no name then it is very likely that some one else researching will see that and start looking for someone with those initials. I have been there and done that! For the life of me I could not find all those people with the surname of UNK who was in my database from an import that had been done when I first started out!! So for unknown information it is best to leave it blank or insert those privacy brackets as that is what keeps them private and not published. To create the cousin, go to John Smith and add father, and enter him with just the Surname and then go to him and repeat. You are now at the grandfathers screen. You should now see him with no spouse with one mail child, now just click in the children list box to add another male child. This is where privacy brackets come in handy to separate the first names ie [[child1]] and [[child2]] which will pop up a warning that you can tell it to ignore. Note this will put an * in the exceptions box near the bottom of the screen once you have a name for them don't forget to edit that box to correct the exception. Now navigate down by going to the new child and adding another male child for David's father. Go to his father now Add Child and link to existing person David. You now have the cousins linked. Russ -Original Message- From: Steve Hayes Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 4:46 AM To: Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter the following. On 24 Feb 2016 at 17:24, June wrote: I have all people EXCEPT David Smith. I canTMt work out how to put him on making him the first cousin of Simon Smith because I donTMt have either David or SimonTMs parents. Then you use placeholders for their parents and grandparents. Since it seems likely that their fathers, at least, had the surname of Smith, you enter something like N.N. Smith for the father of one, and Mrs N.N. Smith for his wife. And N.M. Smith for the parents of the other, and Mrs N.M./ Smith as his wife. And for the parents of those two smiths you put Grandpa Smith and Grandma Smith. And then, voila! David and Simon are cousins. And when you do find the real names, you substitute them for the placeholder names. -- Keep well, Steve Hayes Blog:http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/famhist1.htm E-mail: sha...@dunelm.org.uk ___ LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com
Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter the following.
On 24 Feb 2016 9:24 AM, June wrote: I have all people EXCEPT David Smith. I can’t work out how to put him on making him the first cousin of Simon Smith because I don’t have either David or Simon’s parents. First cousins should have the same grand-parents. Since you don't have the parents of either Simon or David, you won't have the grand-parents. Ergo: you can not create a first cousin link out of thin air. -- Regards, Mike Fry (Jhb) ___ LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com
Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter the following.
So glad to see a legacy question asked and answered On Feb 24, 2016 3:14 AM, "June" wrote: > Thanks to Wendy and Cathy for their help. All sorted now. > > Kind regards > > June > > -Original Message- > From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On > Behalf Of Wendy Howard > Sent: Wednesday, 24 February 2016 2:03 PM > To: Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter the following. > > Hi June, > > So you've got everyone entered into your database, but you haven't yet > linked Simon SMITH to his wife Hannah JONES? > > With Simon in the spouse area in Family View, right-click in the wife's > area > and then click on "Add a wife", and then in the next window that appears, > click on "Link to an EXISTING person". You'll then see the Name List, where > you can navigate to Hannah and select her. > > Alternatively, you can right-click on Simon and select Add > Wife. > > Or, via the menus, click on Add > Add Wife. > > Or, via keyboard shortcuts, press AW (for Add Wife). > > Whichever route you take, the key is to link to an existing person, instead > of adding a new person. > > Hope this helps. :-) > > Wendy > > > > ___ > LegacyUserGroup mailing list > LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com > http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com > ___ LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com
Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter the following.
On 24 Feb 2016 at 17:24, June wrote: > I have all people EXCEPT David Smith. I canTMt work out how to put him on > making him the first cousin of Simon Smith because I donTMt have either > David or SimonTMs parents. Then you use placeholders for their parents and grandparents. Since it seems likely that their fathers, at least, had the surname of Smith, you enter something like N.N. Smith for the father of one, and Mrs N.N. Smith for his wife. And N.M. Smith for the parents of the other, and Mrs N.M./ Smith as his wife. And for the parents of those two smiths you put Grandpa Smith and Grandma Smith. And then, voila! David and Simon are cousins. And when you do find the real names, you substitute them for the placeholder names. -- Keep well, Steve Hayes Blog:http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com Web:http://www.khanya.org.za/famhist1.htm E-mail: sha...@dunelm.org.uk ___ LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com
Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter the following.
On 24 Feb 2016 at 16:15, June wrote: > Thanks for the reply Wendy - what I don't have on the data base is David > Smith (the first cousin of Simon Smith) - I want to enter him so he comes up > as Simon's first cousin rather than enter him as just a separate person - but > for the life of me my mind is not working as to how to connect them as cousins > given that I don't have parents for either. You can only connect them as cousins by entering their parents and grandparents. Then the progam automatically works out the cousin connection. If you don't know who the parents of grandparents were, you can either enter someone as a "placeholder", or you can wait until you do know the names. But you can't ENTER someone as a cousin iof someone else. -- Keep well, Steve Hayes Blog:http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com Web:http://www.khanya.org.za/famhist1.htm E-mail: sha...@dunelm.org.uk ___ LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com
Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter the following.
Thanks to Wendy and Cathy for their help. All sorted now. Kind regards June -Original Message- From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of Wendy Howard Sent: Wednesday, 24 February 2016 2:03 PM To: Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter the following. Hi June, So you've got everyone entered into your database, but you haven't yet linked Simon SMITH to his wife Hannah JONES? With Simon in the spouse area in Family View, right-click in the wife's area and then click on "Add a wife", and then in the next window that appears, click on "Link to an EXISTING person". You'll then see the Name List, where you can navigate to Hannah and select her. Alternatively, you can right-click on Simon and select Add > Wife. Or, via the menus, click on Add > Add Wife. Or, via keyboard shortcuts, press AW (for Add Wife). Whichever route you take, the key is to link to an existing person, instead of adding a new person. Hope this helps. :-) Wendy ___ LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com
Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter the following.
Sorry to all, I’m not explaining this very well am I. I have all people EXCEPT David Smith. I can’t work out how to put him on making him the first cousin of Simon Smith because I don’t have either David or Simon’s parents. I know it should be simple – I know what cousins are but it’s just escaping me. Thanks for your help June From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of Cathy Pinner Sent: Wednesday, 24 February 2016 4:16 PM To: Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter the following. June, I'm not clear whether you have David Smith and Hannah in your database. When you know the relationship but not the connecting people, you can enter placeholder people to hold them together. Is Hannah the daughter of John Jones first wife? and you don't know her name? Just enter Hannah and link her to her father. That will create a new relationship for the father. You'll need to order marriages. As Wendy says, be careful you don't enter someone twice. This is a useful Support article if you find you've made some linking errors. http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00344/14/Tips-and-How-Tos/Tips-on-Fixing-Relationship-Problems.html Cathy Wendy Howard wrote: ___ LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com
Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter the following.
June, I'm not clear whether you have David Smith and Hannah in your database. When you know the relationship but not the connecting people, you can enter placeholder people to hold them together. Is Hannah the daughter of John Jones first wife? and you don't know her name? Just enter Hannah and link her to her father. That will create a new relationship for the father. You'll need to order marriages. As Wendy says, be careful you don't enter someone twice. This is a useful Support article if you find you've made some linking errors. http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00344/14/Tips-and-How-Tos/Tips-on-Fixing-Relationship-Problems.html Cathy Wendy Howard wrote: Hi June, So you've got everyone entered into your database, but you haven't yet linked Simon SMITH to his wife Hannah JONES? With Simon in the spouse area in Family View, right-click in the wife's area and then click on "Add a wife", and then in the next window that appears, click on "Link to an EXISTING person". You'll then see the Name List, where you can navigate to Hannah and select her. Alternatively, you can right-click on Simon and select Add > Wife. Or, via the menus, click on Add > Add Wife. Or, via keyboard shortcuts, press AW (for Add Wife). Whichever route you take, the key is to link to an existing person, instead of adding a new person. Hope this helps. :-) Wendy June wrote on 24/02/2016 16:46: For some reason I'm afraid I'm having a mental block and am a bit lost at how to enter some data on. Its the last line I am having problems with. I have no names other than those listed (and I have changed the names) Thank you - June John Smith's daughter Mary married John Jones (widower) - that is all ok and all are on my data base. John and Mary Jones had a son - Jack Jones - also on my data base and no problem. Jack Jones married Beatrice daughter of Simon Smith. - ok and on my data base Simon Smith was a first cousin of David Smith who married as his second wife Hannah the daughter of the above John Jones. ___ LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com ___ LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com
Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter the following.
Thanks for the reply Wendy - what I don't have on the data base is David Smith (the first cousin of Simon Smith) - I want to enter him so he comes up as Simon's first cousin rather than enter him as just a separate person - but for the life of me my mind is not working as to how to connect them as cousins given that I don't have parents for either. Hopefully I am making sense. Thank you - June -Original Message- From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of Wendy Howard Sent: Wednesday, 24 February 2016 2:03 PM To: Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter the following. Hi June, So you've got everyone entered into your database, but you haven't yet linked Simon SMITH to his wife Hannah JONES? With Simon in the spouse area in Family View, right-click in the wife's area and then click on "Add a wife", and then in the next window that appears, click on "Link to an EXISTING person". You'll then see the Name List, where you can navigate to Hannah and select her. Alternatively, you can right-click on Simon and select Add > Wife. Or, via the menus, click on Add > Add Wife. Or, via keyboard shortcuts, press AW (for Add Wife). Whichever route you take, the key is to link to an existing person, instead of adding a new person. Hope this helps. :-) Wendy June wrote on 24/02/2016 16:46: > For some reason I'm afraid I'm having a mental block and am a bit lost > at how to enter some data on. Its the last line I am having problems > with. I have no names other than those listed (and I have changed the > names) > > Thank you - June > > John Smith's daughter Mary married John Jones (widower) - that is all > ok and all are on my data base. > > John and Mary Jones had a son - Jack Jones - also on my data base and > no problem. > > Jack Jones married Beatrice daughter of Simon Smith. - ok and on my > data base > > Simon Smith was a first cousin of David Smith who married as his > second wife Hannah the daughter of the above John Jones. ___ LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com ___ LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com
Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter the following.
Hi June, So you've got everyone entered into your database, but you haven't yet linked Simon SMITH to his wife Hannah JONES? With Simon in the spouse area in Family View, right-click in the wife's area and then click on "Add a wife", and then in the next window that appears, click on "Link to an EXISTING person". You'll then see the Name List, where you can navigate to Hannah and select her. Alternatively, you can right-click on Simon and select Add > Wife. Or, via the menus, click on Add > Add Wife. Or, via keyboard shortcuts, press AW (for Add Wife). Whichever route you take, the key is to link to an existing person, instead of adding a new person. Hope this helps. :-) Wendy June wrote on 24/02/2016 16:46: For some reason I'm afraid I'm having a mental block and am a bit lost at how to enter some data on. Its the last line I am having problems with. I have no names other than those listed (and I have changed the names) Thank you - June John Smith's daughter Mary married John Jones (widower) - that is all ok and all are on my data base. John and Mary Jones had a son - Jack Jones - also on my data base and no problem. Jack Jones married Beatrice daughter of Simon Smith. - ok and on my data base Simon Smith was a first cousin of David Smith who married as his second wife Hannah the daughter of the above John Jones. ___ LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com
