vim-mode, cursor shape, vertical select

[gar]

Hello there!

I have just started to learn Leo and trying to use it's vim mode. 

First what I miss of is different cursor shape for normal and insert modes.
I discovered 'vimmodeinsertborder*' settings but they seem do not work for 
me - I cannot observe any difference whether they set or not. 
But even they were working - it is not absolutely what I expect to meet. 
So my question is: is there any easy way to change cursor shape and color 
for normal/insert modes?

Second feature I miss alot is vertical select. Looks like Leo does not 
implement it at all. Am I right?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: vim-mode, cursor shape, vertical select

[Edward K. Ream]

On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 10:35 AM gar  wrote:

> Hello there!
>
> I have just started to learn Leo and trying to use it's vim mode.
>
> First what I miss of is different cursor shape for normal and insert modes.
> I discovered 'vimmodeinsertborder*' settings but they seem do not work for
> me - I cannot observe any difference whether they set or not.
> But even they were working - it is not absolutely what I expect to meet.
> So my question is: is there any easy way to change cursor shape and color
> for normal/insert modes?
>

Alas not.

Second feature I miss alot is vertical select. Looks like Leo does not
> implement it at all. Am I right?
>

Again, probably not.

You might be more happy with Leo's vim plugin
.

Also, just this morning we have been discussing using Leo's bridge module
in vim .
That's soon going to be part of Leo's documentation.

Edward

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Re: vim-mode, cursor shape, vertical select

[gar]

Thanks for that fast answer.

By now I tried vim plugin. It's horribly unusable. The greatest disaster 
that vim-open-file doesnt force vim to jump to the line of code outline 
start's with. 
You just get vim with file open on the first line. Great for 1 thousand 
lined files :-)
vim-open-node opens some part of text w/o syntax highlight so you get some 
bunch of code w/o context and colored into some ordinary faded color.

Leo's vim bridge looks like a dirty magic for me now. Cannot actually 
imagine how to apply it. But I suspect that there'll be the same or similar 
problems seems almost noone uses vim mode within Leo.

But nevertheless  thanks for you great job! Leo is marvelous even without 
good vim mimicry :-).

среда, 19 июня 2019 г., 18:39:43 UTC+3 пользователь Edward K. Ream написал:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 10:35 AM gar > 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello there!
>>
>> I have just started to learn Leo and trying to use it's vim mode. 
>>
>> First what I miss of is different cursor shape for normal and insert 
>> modes.
>> I discovered 'vimmodeinsertborder*' settings but they seem do not work 
>> for me - I cannot observe any difference whether they set or not. 
>> But even they were working - it is not absolutely what I expect to meet. 
>> So my question is: is there any easy way to change cursor shape and color 
>> for normal/insert modes?
>>
>
> Alas not.
>
> Second feature I miss alot is vertical select. Looks like Leo does not 
>> implement it at all. Am I right?
>>
>
> Again, probably not.
>
> You might be more happy with Leo's vim plugin 
> .
>
> Also, just this morning we have been discussing using Leo's bridge module 
> in vim 
> .  
> That's soon going to be part of Leo's documentation.
>
> Edward
>

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Re: vim-mode, cursor shape, vertical select

[Edward K. Ream]

On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 11:23 AM gar  wrote:

> Thanks for that fast answer.
>
> By now I tried vim plugin. It's horribly unusable. The greatest disaster
> that vim-open-file doesnt force vim to jump to the line of code outline
> start's with.
> You just get vim with file open on the first line. Great for 1 thousand
> lined files :-)
>

Perhaps you can improve it.

Edward

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Re: vim-mode, cursor shape, vertical select

[Edward K. Ream]

On Wednesday, June 19, 2019 at 10:35:25 AM UTC-5, gar wrote:
>
>
> I have just started to learn Leo and trying to use it's vim mode. 
>
> First what I miss of is different cursor shape for normal and insert modes.
>

I have just created #1220 
for this.

I discovered 'vimmodeinsertborder*' settings but they seem do not work for 
> me - I cannot observe any difference whether they set or not. 
>

I have just created #1221 
 for this.

Edward

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Re: vim-mode, cursor shape, vertical select

[gar]

Many thanks for that! These things are really blockers in using VIM mode 
for me.

Last night  I was thinking about how can Leo's vim mimicry can be improved 
and got a clue: neovim may help.
AFAIK it can work as a completely background server an interact with 
frontend program by HTTP or something like this.
Need to read more about it.

If one can inject vim core into leo keeping python as main scripting 
language... Leo would get great text editor for free.
There is at least one integration of Qt, Python and neovim on github 
already: https://github.com/equalsraf/neovim-qt

I am grieving that my tech background is too poor for that kind of 
improvement, so all I can do - is just give a clue for further meditations.

пятница, 21 июня 2019 г., 15:21:53 UTC+3 пользователь Edward K. Ream 
написал:
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 19, 2019 at 10:35:25 AM UTC-5, gar wrote:
>>
>>
>> I have just started to learn Leo and trying to use it's vim mode. 
>>
>> First what I miss of is different cursor shape for normal and insert 
>> modes.
>>
>
> I have just created #1220 
> for this.
>
> I discovered 'vimmodeinsertborder*' settings but they seem do not work for 
>> me - I cannot observe any difference whether they set or not. 
>>
>
> I have just created #1221 
>  for this.
>
> Edward
>

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Re: vim-mode, cursor shape, vertical select

[Edward K. Ream]

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 7:40 AM gar  wrote:

Last night  I was thinking about how can Leo's vim mimicry can be improved
> and got a clue: neovim may help.
> AFAIK it can work as a completely background server an interact with
> frontend program by HTTP or something like this.
> Need to read more about it.
>

Oh joy!  I have just upgraded #990
 based on this
information.  It's still listed as "Maybe" but I have assigned it to 6.1
for study.

Edward

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Re: vim-mode, cursor shape, vertical select

[Edward K. Ream]

On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 7:21:53 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, June 19, 2019 at 10:35:25 AM UTC-5, gar wrote:
>

>> I discovered 'vimmodeinsertborder*' settings but they seem do not work 
for me - I cannot observe any difference whether they set or not.

> I have just created #1221 
 for this.

The vim-related elements in the defaults stylesheet in leoSettings.leo is 
affected by a known Qt bug.  Class selectors do not work on Qt 5(!).  And 
not only do they not work, they ruin all further css elements.  The Qt 
people do not seem to care about this mess nearly enough.

Because they are toxic, these class selectors are in the last node: zz Must 
be last.  This node contains:

/* Vim mode borders... */

QTextEdit#richTextEdit[vim_state~="vim_normal"] {
  border: @vim-mode-normal-border;
}

QTextEdit#richTextEdit[vim_state~="vim_insert"] {
  border: @vim-mode-insert-border;
}

QTextEdit#richTextEdit[vim_state~="vim_visual"] {
  border: @vim-mode-visual-border;
}

A fix would ignore these css elements entirely, using a Leonine settings 
instead.  This would be quite confusing to existing users unless all 
existing stylesheets are updated with warnings about the change.

Still, this must be done.  I'll attempt a fix soon.

Edward

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Re: vim-mode, cursor shape, vertical select

[Edward K. Ream]

On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 7:21:53 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote:

>> 'vimmodeinsertborder*' ...do not work for me.

> I have just created #1221 
 for this.

The programming work is complete.  There are four new settings, with 
defaults as shown:

@string vim-normal-border = border: 3px solid white
@string vim-insert-border = border: 3px solid red
@string vim-visual-border = border: 3px solid yellow
@string vim-unfocused-border = border: 3px dashed white

Please add these settings to myLeoSettings.leo and/or your theme file:

I'll be doing the same for leoSettings.leo and Leo's standard theme files.

Edward

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Re: vim-mode, cursor shape, vertical select

[Edward K. Ream]

On Saturday, June 22, 2019 at 9:02:24 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote:

There are four new settings, with defaults as shown:
>
> @string vim-normal-border = border: 3px solid white
> @string vim-insert-border = border: 3px solid red
> @string vim-visual-border = border: 3px solid yellow
> @string vim-unfocused-border = border: 3px dashed white
>

For compatibility with ancient settings that may still be lying around, 
I've added "-mode" to the names of the settings. I had to make this change 
to avoid still more confusion.  Please use these settings:

@string vim-mode-normal-border = border: 3px solid white
@string vim-mode-insert-border = border: 3px solid red
@string vim-mode-visual-border = border: 3px solid yellow
@string vim-mode-unfocused-border = border: 3px dashed white

The last setting is, I think, new.

Edward

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Re: vim-mode, cursor shape, vertical select

[Edward K. Ream]

On Saturday, June 22, 2019 at 9:42:10 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote:

For compatibility with ancient settings that may still be lying around, 
> I've added "-mode" to the names of the settings. I had to make this change 
> to avoid still more confusion.  Please use these settings:
>
> @string vim-mode-normal-border = border: 3px solid white
> @string vim-mode-insert-border = border: 3px solid red
> @string vim-mode-visual-border = border: 3px solid yellow
> @string vim-mode-unfocused-border = border: 3px dashed white
>

One more thing.  Unlike style sheets, you can't use @-substitutions in 
settings.

For example, you have to use #268bd2 instead of @solarized-blue.

This should not be too odious, because you can document that @solarized-red 
= #268bd2 in the body pane of the setting.

Edward

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Re: vim-mode, cursor shape, vertical select

[gar]

Tested that - works perfectly
Now vim mode is ready for everyday usage, problem with cursor shape became 
less critical.

Thank you very much!

суббота, 22 июня 2019 г., 20:21:46 UTC+3 пользователь Edward K. Ream 
написал:
>
> On Saturday, June 22, 2019 at 9:42:10 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote:
>
> For compatibility with ancient settings that may still be lying around, 
>> I've added "-mode" to the names of the settings. I had to make this change 
>> to avoid still more confusion.  Please use these settings:
>>
>> @string vim-mode-normal-border = border: 3px solid white
>> @string vim-mode-insert-border = border: 3px solid red
>> @string vim-mode-visual-border = border: 3px solid yellow
>> @string vim-mode-unfocused-border = border: 3px dashed white
>>
>
> One more thing.  Unlike style sheets, you can't use @-substitutions in 
> settings.
>
> For example, you have to use #268bd2 instead of @solarized-blue.
>
> This should not be too odious, because you can document that 
> @solarized-red = #268bd2 in the body pane of the setting.
>
> Edward
>

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Re: vim-mode, cursor shape, vertical select

[gar]

Edward, are there any plans to implement vertical (block) select feature 
for leo's editor component?
This is the only feature I miss a lot.

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Re: vim-mode, cursor shape, vertical select

[vitalije]

On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 9:05:45 AM UTC+2, gar wrote:
>
> Edward, are there any plans to implement vertical (block) select feature 
> for leo's editor component?
> This is the only feature I miss a lot.
>
You have several `rectangle-...` commands. The rectangle selection is not 
shown as such, but the effect of command is exactly what you want. Try to 
press `Alt-x` and then type in minibufer "rect" and then press `Tab`. 
You'll see a list of commands that starts with rectangle. 
`rectangle-clear` deletes text of rectangle, `rectangle-string` allows you 
to type some text that will replace content of currently selected rectangle.
Vitalije

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Re: vim-mode, cursor shape, vertical select

[gar]

wow! i saw these commands in the leo's menu but failed to understand how
the work.
I was swindled how selection was made - as usual, not as in other editors
thank you for that advise!

пт, 28 июн. 2019 г. в 12:33, vitalije :

>
>
> On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 9:05:45 AM UTC+2, gar wrote:
>>
>> Edward, are there any plans to implement vertical (block) select feature
>> for leo's editor component?
>> This is the only feature I miss a lot.
>>
> You have several `rectangle-...` commands. The rectangle selection is not
> shown as such, but the effect of command is exactly what you want. Try to
> press `Alt-x` and then type in minibufer "rect" and then press `Tab`.
> You'll see a list of commands that starts with rectangle.
> `rectangle-clear` deletes text of rectangle, `rectangle-string` allows you
> to type some text that will replace content of currently selected rectangle.
> Vitalije
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