Re: [liberationtech] Fake News

[Andres Pacheco]

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!important;background-color:white;}In my opinion, "fake news" is neither "new" 
nor a US-only phenomenon.
It's just one more trait of a "marketing society."
Giles Deleuze noted it ~40 years ago:

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Foucault-Blog - UZH - Forschungsstelle für Sozial- und Wirtschaftsgeschichte: 
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Towards the end of his prolific life, Deleuze wrote "Postscript on the 
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too bad Aaron Hillel Swartz was "suicided" for trying to open those vaults, but 
fortunately this particular text is freely available on the internet, pick your 
source. This one from UCLA:
http://classes.dma.ucla.edu/Fall15/252A/content/readings/deleuze-postscript-on-the-societies-of-control.pdf
 

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On Wednesday, January 11, 2017, 12:40 AM, F LM  wrote:

As someone who doesn't live in the US, I find this whole "fake news" issue 
somehow confusing. 

It seems to me that it's a very wide concept created by media like The 
Guardian, NYT, etc., in order to discredit certain efforts by Trump supporters 
to influence voters based on false information (social media profiles, online 
articles, etc.). However, as time goes by, I see fake news coming out more and 
more from that same left-wing propaganda machine with misinformation, 
highly-biased pieces and more often than not, blatantly false reports.

What are the first public mentions of this controversial concept in the press? 
Perhaps that would give me a bit more of light.

FL

> On 11-01-2017, at 00:27, Manuel Amador (Rudd-O)  wrote:
> 
>> On 12/09/2016 04:51 AM, Yosem Companys wrote:
>> Anyone know of any academic studies showing that fake (social media)
>> news influenced the 2016 presidential election outcome?
> 
> The election was influenced by fake media alright, but the victory in
> the U.S. elections is *despite* the fake media, not because of it.
> 
> Fake media — CNN, WaPo, The Times., all that brainwashing nonsense — 
> was basically against the winner.  He won nonetheless.
> 
> *shruggie*
> 
> I don't have to live with that result, but it's the truth.
> 
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Re: [liberationtech] Fake News

[F LM]

As someone who doesn't live in the US, I find this whole "fake news" issue 
somehow confusing. 

It seems to me that it's a very wide concept created by media like The 
Guardian, NYT, etc., in order to discredit certain efforts by Trump supporters 
to influence voters based on false information (social media profiles, online 
articles, etc.). However, as time goes by, I see fake news coming out more and 
more from that same left-wing propaganda machine with misinformation, 
highly-biased pieces and more often than not, blatantly false reports.

What are the first public mentions of this controversial concept in the press? 
Perhaps that would give me a bit more of light.

FL

> On 11-01-2017, at 00:27, Manuel Amador (Rudd-O)  wrote:
> 
>> On 12/09/2016 04:51 AM, Yosem Companys wrote:
>> Anyone know of any academic studies showing that fake (social media)
>> news influenced the 2016 presidential election outcome?
> 
> The election was influenced by fake media alright, but the victory in
> the U.S. elections is *despite* the fake media, not because of it.
> 
> Fake media — CNN, WaPo, The Times., all that brainwashing nonsense — 
> was basically against the winner.  He won nonetheless.
> 
> *shruggie*
> 
> I don't have to live with that result, but it's the truth.
> 
> 
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Re: [liberationtech] Fake News

[Manuel Amador (Rudd-O)]

On 12/09/2016 04:51 AM, Yosem Companys wrote:
> Anyone know of any academic studies showing that fake (social media)
> news influenced the 2016 presidential election outcome?

The election was influenced by fake media alright, but the victory in
the U.S. elections is *despite* the fake media, not because of it.

Fake media — CNN, WaPo, The Times., all that brainwashing nonsense — 
was basically against the winner.  He won nonetheless.

*shruggie*

I don't have to live with that result, but it's the truth.


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[liberationtech] Fake News Story Sets Off Israel-Pakistan Twitter Feud

[Yosem Companys]

A fake news story has touched off a tense Twitter confrontation
between nuclear power Pakistan and Israel, widely believed to have a
nuclear arsenal of its own, in an episode that underlines the
potentially harmful impact of such stories in sensitive global affairs

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/26/fake-news-story-prompts-pakistan-to-issue-nuclear-warning-to-israel
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Re: [liberationtech] Fake News

[Andrés Pacheco]

... like believing Breitbart News...

Actually, "fake news" have become an important smear strategy in US Elections, 
even before Facebook and "social media..." 

Remember the Dukakis campaign and the impact of one "Horton" case?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/01/06/its-time-to-stop-the-endless-hype-of-the-willie-horton-ad/

Regards | Saludos,

Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes


> On Dec 9, 2016, at 7:15 PM, Jayne Cravens  
> wrote:
> 
>  
> 
> >Adding to the aggregation of coverage:
> >From the Intercept this morning: A Clinton Fan Manufactured Fake News That 
> > MSNBC Personalities Spread to Discredit WikiLeaks Docs
> > https://theintercept.com/2016/12/09/a-clinton-fan-manufactured-fake-news-that-msnbc-personalities-spread-to-discredit-wikileaks-docs/
> 
> From Wikipedia:
> 
> 
> "The Intercept is an online publication launched in February 2014 by First 
> Look Media, the news organization created and funded by eBayfounder Pierre 
> Omidyar. The editors are Betsy Reed, Glenn Greenwald and Jeremy Scahill. The 
> magazine serves as a platform to report on the documents released by Edward 
> Snowden in the short term, and to "produce aggressive, adversarial journalism 
> across a wide range of issues" in the long term."
> 
> So, given the bias of the publication, I would take this with a big grain of 
> salt. Or two. 
> 
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Re: [liberationtech] Fake News

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>Adding to the aggregation of coverage:
>From the Intercept this morning: A Clinton Fan Manufactured Fake News That 
> MSNBC Personalities Spread to Discredit WikiLeaks Docs
> https://theintercept.com/2016/12/09/a-clinton-fan-manufactured-fake-news-that-msnbc-personalities-spread-to-discredit-wikileaks-docs/
>  

>From Wikipedia: 

"The Intercept is an online publication launched in February 2014 by
First Look Media, the news organization created and funded by
eBayfounder Pierre Omidyar. The editors are Betsy Reed, Glenn Greenwald
and Jeremy Scahill. The magazine serves as a platform to report on the
documents released by Edward Snowden in the short term, and to "produce
aggressive, adversarial journalism across a wide range of issues" in the
long term." 

So, given the bias of the publication, I would take this with a big
grain of salt. Or two.  

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Re: [liberationtech] Fake News

[Alexander Barbe]

Adding to the aggregation of coverage:
>From the Intercept this morning: A Clinton Fan Manufactured Fake News That
MSNBC Personalities Spread to Discredit WikiLeaks Docs
https://theintercept.com/2016/12/09/a-clinton-fan-manufactured-fake-news-that-msnbc-personalities-spread-to-discredit-wikileaks-docs/


On Dec 9, 2016 07:45, "Jayne Cravens"  wrote:

I think it's too early for academic studies to be completed and published
on this phenom. Really looking forward to those.

Here's non-academic articles I've found, or related stuff:

Fake Election News Stories Outperformed Real News On Facebook
A BuzzFeed News analysis found that top fake election news stories
generated more total engagement on Facebook than top election stories from
19 major news outlets combined.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilverman/viral-fake-
election-news-outperformed-real-news-on-facebook



National Public Radio story a few days ago the guy in Los Angeles who built
many of these fake news sites

http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/11/23/
503146770/npr-finds-the-head-of-a-covert-fake-news-operation-in-the-suburbs



Filippo Menczer, Professor of Computer Science and Informatics and Director
of the Center for Complex Networks and Systems Research at Indiana
University, Bloomington, authored the article Why Fake News Is So
Incredibly Effective, published in Time and The Conversation.

http://time.com/4583475/fake-news-effective/



a new study from Stanford researchers evaluated students’ ability to assess
information sources, and described the results as “dismaying,” “bleak” and
a “threat to democracy,” as reported by NPR News.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/11/23/503129818/study-finds-
students-have-dismaying-inability-to-tell-fake-news-from-real



And maybe on a related note:

fake news, folklore & friendships

http://coyotecommunications.com/coyoteblog/2016/11/28/fakenews/



How did volunteers impact the 2016 USA Presidential election?
http://coyotecommunications.com/coyoteblog/2016/12/01/2016volunteers/


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Re: [liberationtech] Fake News

[Jayne Cravens]

I think it's too early for academic studies to be completed and
published on this phenom. Really looking forward to those. 

Here's non-academic articles I've found, or related stuff: 

Fake Election News Stories Outperformed Real News On Facebook
A BuzzFeed News analysis found that top fake election news stories
generated more total engagement on Facebook than top election stories
from 19 major news outlets combined. 

https://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilverman/viral-fake-election-news-outperformed-real-news-on-facebook


National Public Radio story a few days ago the guy in Los Angeles who
built many of these fake news sites 

http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/11/23/503146770/npr-finds-the-head-of-a-covert-fake-news-operation-in-the-suburbs


Filippo Menczer, Professor of Computer Science and Informatics and
Director of the Center for Complex Networks and Systems Research at
Indiana University, Bloomington, authored the article Why Fake News Is
So Incredibly Effective, published in Time and The Conversation. 

http://time.com/4583475/fake-news-effective/ 

a new study from Stanford researchers evaluated students' ability to
assess information sources, and described the results as "dismaying,"
"bleak" and a "threat to democracy," as reported by NPR News.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/11/23/503129818/study-finds-students-have-dismaying-inability-to-tell-fake-news-from-real


And maybe on a related note: 

fake news, folklore & friendships 

http://coyotecommunications.com/coyoteblog/2016/11/28/fakenews/ 

How did volunteers impact the 2016 USA Presidential election?
http://coyotecommunications.com/coyoteblog/2016/12/01/2016volunteers/ 

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<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
Ms. Jayne Cravens MSc
Portland, Oregon, USA

The web site - http://www.coyotecommunications.com
The email - j...@coyotecommunications.com
Me on Twitter, other social networks, & my blog: 
http://www.coyotecommunications.com/me/jayneonline.shtml

Author: The Last Virtual Volunteering Guidebook
More about the book, and how to buy it 
(as a paperback or as an e-book):
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<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> 

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Re: [liberationtech] Fake News

[Yosem Companys]

At the same time, let us not forget that fake news has played a role in
many a U.S. election even with the presence of independent investigative
journalists. Think of the political gazettes of the founding fathers and
later political parties, the penny press of the 1800s, the yellow press of
the Spanish-American War, the propaganda machines of WWI and WWII that gave
rise to public relations and mass marketing, and the controlled
dissemination of information -- fake or not -- during the Vietnam War and
Iraq War II.

Whereas most economic and political models focus on a rational individual
processing information, we know from psychology and sociology that beliefs
tend to be spread and adopted in groups.

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 3:12 AM, Carolyn Santo 
wrote:

> Yosem,
>
> I think all journalists should point fake news and/or challenge people who
> make false statements that are disseminated to the public, no matter where
> those statements exist.  I miss old fashioned journalists who worked to
> expose the truth, no matter which political party was involved.
>
> For example, a lot of mainstream media outlets are promoting the idea that
> Jeff Sessions is a racist.  The hosts on news channels do not call out
> people who present a skewed picture of him, notably leaving out his history
> of pursuing the KKK and coordinating with State officials so that a white
> supremacist who murdered a black person would receive the death penalty.
>
> Fake or false news is a problem all over, not just on social media.  I'm
> sure that there will be studies coming out as they analyze the election.
>
> Some of the coverage is so slanted I can't even watch certain cable
> channels or read certain websites.
>
> Carolyn Santo
>
> On 12/8/2016 6:51 PM, Yosem Companys wrote:
>
> Anyone know of any academic studies showing that fake (social media) news
> influenced the 2016 presidential election outcome?
>
> Thanks,
> Yosem
>
>
>
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Re: [liberationtech] Fake News

[Carolyn Santo]

Yosem,

I think all journalists should point fake news and/or challenge people 
who make false statements that are disseminated to the public, no matter 
where those statements exist.  I miss old fashioned journalists who 
worked to expose the truth, no matter which political party was involved.


For example, a lot of mainstream media outlets are promoting the idea 
that Jeff Sessions is a racist.  The hosts on news channels do not call 
out people who present a skewed picture of him, notably leaving out his 
history of pursuing the KKK and coordinating with State officials so 
that a white supremacist who murdered a black person would receive the 
death penalty.


Fake or false news is a problem all over, not just on social media.  I'm 
sure that there will be studies coming out as they analyze the election.


Some of the coverage is so slanted I can't even watch certain cable 
channels or read certain websites.


Carolyn Santo


On 12/8/2016 6:51 PM, Yosem Companys wrote:
Anyone know of any academic studies showing that fake (social media) 
news influenced the 2016 presidential election outcome?


Thanks,
Yosem




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[liberationtech] Fake News

[Yosem Companys]

Anyone know of any academic studies showing that fake (social media) news
influenced the 2016 presidential election outcome?

Thanks,
Yosem
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