Re: [liberationtech] Should we start a new Stanford liberationtech-news list?

[Yosem Companys]

Tweet the news and copy us @Liberationtech! :)

Yosem

On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 12:21 AM, Andres Pacheco  wrote:

> Cecilia,
>
> What's the Peru anti-corruption story?
>
> Are those tools mentioned related to social comptrollership?
>
> This may connect to recent participatory democracy platforms in Spain in
> cities where local government control switched to new social movements
> after recent elections (while world press attention was stuck on the
> national elections impasse/deadlock)
>
> Also worth following: municipalities in the Guadalajara metro area now
> controlled  by citizens' groups (Tlajomulco de Zúñiga? Others?).
>
> Reminds me of this article mention Spanish / Brazilian cities, Istanbul:
> The open source city as the transnational democratic future
> 
>
>
> The open source city as the transnational democratic future
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone 
>
> On Sunday, February 19, 2017, 10:32 PM, Cecilia Tanaka <
> cecilia.tan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017, at 1:19 AM, Yosem Companys 
> wrote:
>
> We should tweet about Peru. Perhaps that could be our theme for the day?
>>
>
> ​Yep, good idea!  :)
>
> I'm in love with Peru's fight against corruption!  (* o *)  ow! <3​
>
>
> ​I was compiling some material about ​projects against corruption in
> politics because my list needs updates.  Some of the projects are dead now
> (RIP) and I am VERY interested in AI being used against corruption in my
> country.  Two interesting and very recent examples, but are not in English,
> sorry!  :P
>
> (FR)  http://www.lemonde.fr/chronique-des-communs/article/
> 2017/02/11/une-carte-collaborative-de-la-corruption-en-france_5078252_
> 5049504.html
>
> (PT)  http://link.estadao.com.br/noticias/inovacao,brasileiros-
> criam-robo-para-atacar-corrupcao,70001662349
>
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Re: [liberationtech] Should we start a new Stanford liberationtech-news list?

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On Feb 19, 2017, at 8:33 PM, Cecilia Tanaka 
> wrote:

On Mon, Feb 20, 2017, at 1:19 AM, Yosem Companys 
> wrote:

We should tweet about Peru. Perhaps that could be our theme for the day?

​Yep, good idea!  :)

I'm in love with Peru's fight against corruption!  (* o *)  ow! <3​


​I was compiling some material about ​projects against corruption in politics 
because my list needs updates.  Some of the projects are dead now (RIP) and I 
am VERY interested in AI being used against corruption in my country.  Two 
interesting and very recent examples, but are not in English, sorry!  :P

(FR)  
http://www.lemonde.fr/chronique-des-communs/article/2017/02/11/une-carte-collaborative-de-la-corruption-en-france_5078252_5049504.html

(PT)  
http://link.estadao.com.br/noticias/inovacao,brasileiros-criam-robo-para-atacar-corrupcao,70001662349

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Re: [liberationtech] Should we start a new Stanford liberationtech-news list?

[Yosem Companys]

We should tweet about Peru. Perhaps that could be our theme for the day?

On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 8:17 PM, Cecilia Tanaka 
wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017, at 9:31 PM,  wrote:
>
>>
>> And hey Ceci! The script I posted also uses Tweepy. Check it out --
>> there is of course much more data that could be pulled, but I kept it
>> minimal, thinking that this is likely best for a plaintext summary.
>
>
> ​Thanks Rick!  Muuuaaah!  :*  <3
>
> I don't know what's happening today, but my Internet connection is
> oscillating a lot and I didn't verify several important things until now.
> I am having problems to install some apps and watch videos too.  I've lost
> SpaceX live cast and other cool stuff, snif!
> :'(
> ​  ​
>
> https://youtu.be/rUDLxFUMC9c
>
> ​Well, Ecuadorean elections were today too.  I confess I am worried about
> Assange's future.  :((
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/17/world/europe/julian-assan
> ge-ecuador-embassy.html​
>
> http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/02/ecuador-votes-crucial-
> general-elections-170219141200171.html
>
> https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/02/19/ecuador-electi
> on-amid-conservative-shift-in-latin-america-could-also-
> impact-julian-assanges-fate.html
>
> Moreno took the lead, but after the last USA's elections, I don't trust
> preliminary results anymore.
>
> I will search for voluntary help to fine tuning the code, dear.  If I try
> to code, Assange will probably be kicked from Ecuador and Trump will tweet
> the nuclear codes, ouch!  :P
>
> Kisses, take care!  :*
>
> c.
>
> PS:  -  Good travel, Yosem.  God bless you and your ways.  Yep, I have a
> very controversial relationship with my own faith and religions, but I
> still pray all the days asking protection to my loved ones and the rest of
> world.  Hope God exists and protects everyone, but take care, OK?  <3
>
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Re: [liberationtech] Should we start a new Stanford liberationtech-news list?

[Cecilia Tanaka]

On Sun, Feb 19, 2017, at 9:31 PM,  wrote:

>
> And hey Ceci! The script I posted also uses Tweepy. Check it out --
> there is of course much more data that could be pulled, but I kept it
> minimal, thinking that this is likely best for a plaintext summary.


​Thanks Rick!  Muuuaaah!  :*  <3

I don't know what's happening today, but my Internet connection is
oscillating a lot and I didn't verify several important things until now.
I am having problems to install some apps and watch videos too.  I've lost
SpaceX live cast and other cool stuff, snif!
:'(
​  ​

https://youtu.be/rUDLxFUMC9c

​Well, Ecuadorean elections were today too.  I confess I am worried about
Assange's future.  :((

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/17/world/europe/julian-
assange-ecuador-embassy.html​

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/02/ecuador-votes-crucial-
general-elections-170219141200171.html

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/02/19/ecuador-
election-amid-conservative-shift-in-latin-america-could-
also-impact-julian-assanges-fate.html

Moreno took the lead, but after the last USA's elections, I don't trust
preliminary results anymore.

I will search for voluntary help to fine tuning the code, dear.  If I try
to code, Assange will probably be kicked from Ecuador and Trump will tweet
the nuclear codes, ouch!  :P

Kisses, take care!  :*

c.

PS:  -  Good travel, Yosem.  God bless you and your ways.  Yep, I have a
very controversial relationship with my own faith and religions, but I
still pray all the days asking protection to my loved ones and the rest of
world.  Hope God exists and protects everyone, but take care, OK?  <3
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Re: [liberationtech] Should we start a new Stanford liberationtech-news list?

[Yosem Companys]

Sounds good, Rick. Anyone want to volunteer to help Rick finetune his code?

Thanks,
Yosem

On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 4:31 PM,  wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 04:36:02PM -0500, Thomas Delrue wrote:
>
>> On 02/19/2017 04:25 PM, Rick Valenzuela wrote:
>>
>>> and maybe the URL for the article linked within the tweet.
>>>
>>
>> Please consider santizing this (i.e. remove the redirection that first
>> hits twatter) so that they doesn't see that you click on/visit the link,
>> that would be good.
>> Plus, then people also immediately know where they'll be taken if they
>> click the link.
>>
>> Also, avoid HTML, prefer plaintext. Why dazzle them with style, when you
>> can dazzle them with substance?
>>
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> I rewrote my script to do that; each tweet would be split into three
> lines: the tweet's URL, the tweet text and the expanded link contained
> within the tweet. For example:
>
> ```
> https://twitter.com/Liberationtech/status/833379727691886592
> The latest The Liberationtech Daily! https://t.co/WGRVUpKJUC
> http://paper.li/Liberationtech?edition_id=853a4330-f6cf-
> 11e6-89dc-0cc47a0d15fd
> ```
>
> I put it in a repo here: https://github.com/rveeblefetz
> er/libtech_days_tweets
>
> There is one issue: if the tweet is a retweet or reply, the expanded_url
> from the API's 'entities' shows a truncated short URL, like: https://t.co…
>
> And hey Ceci! The script I posted also uses Tweepy. Check it out --
> there is of course much more data that could be pulled, but I kept it
> minimal, thinking that this is likely best for a plaintext summary.
>
> Best,
> Rick
>
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> Videojournalist
> Shanghai, China
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Re: [liberationtech] Should we start a new Stanford liberationtech-news list?

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On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 04:36:02PM -0500, Thomas Delrue wrote:

On 02/19/2017 04:25 PM, Rick Valenzuela wrote:

and maybe the URL for the article linked within the tweet.


Please consider santizing this (i.e. remove the redirection that first
hits twatter) so that they doesn't see that you click on/visit the link,
that would be good.
Plus, then people also immediately know where they'll be taken if they
click the link.

Also, avoid HTML, prefer plaintext. Why dazzle them with style, when you
can dazzle them with substance?


Hi Thomas,

I rewrote my script to do that; each tweet would be split into three
lines: the tweet's URL, the tweet text and the expanded link contained
within the tweet. For example:

```
https://twitter.com/Liberationtech/status/833379727691886592
The latest The Liberationtech Daily! https://t.co/WGRVUpKJUC
http://paper.li/Liberationtech?edition_id=853a4330-f6cf-11e6-89dc-0cc47a0d15fd
```

I put it in a repo here: https://github.com/rveeblefetzer/libtech_days_tweets

There is one issue: if the tweet is a retweet or reply, the expanded_url
from the API's 'entities' shows a truncated short URL, like: https://t.co…

And hey Ceci! The script I posted also uses Tweepy. Check it out --
there is of course much more data that could be pulled, but I kept it
minimal, thinking that this is likely best for a plaintext summary.

Best,
Rick

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Videojournalist
Shanghai, China

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Re: [liberationtech] Should we start a new Stanford liberationtech-news list?

[Andres Pacheco]

 blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px 
#715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white 
!important; } Ah, the Amazon: it's a jungle down there! 
It takes about half the ~10-hr flight DFW-GRU to traverse it!
"Embrace of the Serpent" is a great movie, where quite a few languages are 
spoken: probably several indigenous amazonic languages (the great Brazilian 
anthropologist Darcy Ribeiro mentions there were over 1,000 language spoken 
there before the Europeans "discovered" the Americas), German, English, 
Spanish, Portuguese...

Another great movie: IXCANUL, in Mayan, from Guatemala 

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On Sunday, February 19, 2017, 3:37 PM, Cecilia Tanaka 
 wrote:

Hi Rick!  Loved your suggestion, thanks!  :*

Yesterday night, I asked some tips, informations and pratical suggestions in 
some groups, but had no many feedbacks yet.  I was searching for some apps and  
- wow! -  most of them want complete access to my account, password included.  
I bet there is some hidden clausule saying I am also donating my soul and all 
my body organs!  Ugh, ugh, ugh!  :P

One of my friends suggested I should code and create it, and sent me one of his 
experiences using tweepy.  

http://ocarneiro.github.io/ blog/2016_02_01-TwitterReach. html  (My friend, 
Otavio, is the lovely guy juggling!  :D)

http://tweepy.readthedocs.io/en/v3.5.0/getting_started.html#introduction

I am still talking with him, but unfortunately my "coding style"  (cof, cof!)  
is so very disastrous, so horrendous that almost became a legend among some 
Python groups.  When I try to code apparently I can summon Godzilla, Cthulhu, 
all the Four Horsemen of Apocalypse, but I can't make anything good...  There 
is a joke on another list which says the last time I tried to code, Trump won 
the elections, meh!  :(( 

Some years ago, when I told to a friend I was reading the Python Cookbook, he 
said:  -  "Hey, wasn't you a veggie?  Snakes taste good?  Which recipe you will 
cook?"  Uff, some North Americans still think we eat snakes and monkeys on 
South America and that Amazon Forest is nearby, on my backyard maybe...  :((
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Re: [liberationtech] Should we start a new Stanford liberationtech-news list?

[Yosem Companys]

Maybe the list subscribers could chime in on whether they liked the style
of the digest I sent earlier. It comes in html, but I converted to text,
and it seemed to work well. I'll send you a copy, Rick, offline.

Thanks,
Yosem

On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 1:25 PM, Rick Valenzuela  wrote:

> Oh, IFTT could be a good, easy solution too; I haven't looked at IFTTT
> in a long time, but it should be easy to create a recipe for this.
> Are you happy with the output of the IFTT email from the recipe you're
> using?
>
> I would guess that for the mailing list, you might want only the tweet
> text, the specific tweet's URL (the short URL, the full URL and/or the
> display URL) and maybe the URL for the article linked within the tweet.
> That would be easy to isolate from the Python script.
>
> Also, are you looking for HTML to plop into the email, or only plaintext?
>
> Rick
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 12:57:26PM -0800, Yosem Companys wrote:
>
>> This is great, Rick. Thank you.
>>
>> Last night I found one called "If @user tweets, send me a daily mail" on
>> IFTTT, and that is the one I used today. But if we can do something better
>> than that, by all means!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Yosem
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Rick Valenzuela 
>> wrote:
>>
>> What do you want the format to look like? You can pull out the data in
>>> JSON format, but the basic get writes out all the metadata associated
>>> with the tweet.
>>> I cobbled together a Python script here: https://gist.github.com/rveebl
>>> efetzer/0f65c6d9ebcee640f33d18f9585af03f
>>>
>>> (Note that you need to put in your own API/OAuth info)
>>>
>>> Right now it takes the last 10 tweets from the account and puts them
>>> into a text file as JSON. With a little more info, it could be written
>>> to parse that and output the details you need in the format you'd
>>> prefer.
>>> I could put this up in a repo, if others want to tweak and test it.
>>> Time's a little tight for me right now, but I can take a whack at it
>>> here and there.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rick Valenzuela
>>> Videojournalist
>>> Shanghai, China
>>>
>>> GPG: 0x054124ADD5644029
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 02:40:53PM -0800, Yosem Companys wrote:
>>>
>>> OK, so how about we create a digest of the day's Tweets on
 @Liberationtech
 and send them every morning? Then subscribers will receive one email a
 day
 and decide if any of the tweets are worth discussing.

 Does anyone know of a good app that does this? I've found a lot of apps
 online that claim to do so, but the majority are dead.

 Thanks,
 Yosem

 On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 4:21 PM, Andrés Pacheco 
 wrote:

 I'm all for more news, total, aren't we swamped with spam already as it

> is? So libre tech news from the twitter feed would help improve the
> ratio
> of spam to good stuff in our inbox.
>
> Tagging is for sissies and I assume this list is full of superduper
> smart
> techies nerds that don't need no stinking badges to filter classify
> sort
> autodeletearchivefile incoming email, oh god how much I miss now emacs
> mhmail, "la última Coca-Cola del desierto, or isn't it?
>
> BTW I'm unemployed starting 2 days gym now svdcresfy to join the
> resistance, drop me a live if you have something anywhere that you
> might
> think would interest me in the world of ICT4-dev-social/migrant/youth/
> anybody's
> Justice etc
>
> Regards | Saludos,
>
> Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes
> 
>
> > On Feb 5, 2017, at 2:59 PM, José María Mateos 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 05, 2017 at 03:41:18PM +0100, carlo von lynX wrote:
> >>> - I'd rather have two mailing lists only: one for discussions (all
> >>> type   of discussions) and one for announcements. If everything
> goes
> >>> into the   same list, at least have the announcements clearly
> tagged
> >>> so they can   be easily filtered.
> >>
> >> Okay, but please start with a clone of the subscriptions
> >> so we don't have to manually subscribe both to recreate
> >> the status quo.
> >>
> >> Also, please put an automatic Reply-To: in the announcements
> >> that leads to the discussion list. I personally would still
> >> merge both streams into the same folder because I find it
> >> interesting whenever libtech people have a comment to add to
> >> a piece of news.
> >
> > Agree with this.
> >
> >>>   - An e-mail with news every 10 minutes may be too much. Wouldn't
> >>> it be   better to have a daily news digest of some sort? Then
> anyone
> >>> could   start a discussion based on it.
> >>
> >> I guess most of us absorb the "news" by just grasping what
> >> the subject line says, then decide what is worth digging
> >> into. A 

Re: [liberationtech] Should we start a new Stanford liberationtech-news list?

[Rick Valenzuela]

Oh, IFTT could be a good, easy solution too; I haven't looked at IFTTT
in a long time, but it should be easy to create a recipe for this. 


Are you happy with the output of the IFTT email from the recipe you're
using?

I would guess that for the mailing list, you might want only the tweet
text, the specific tweet's URL (the short URL, the full URL and/or the
display URL) and maybe the URL for the article linked within the tweet.
That would be easy to isolate from the Python script.

Also, are you looking for HTML to plop into the email, or only plaintext?

Rick

On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 12:57:26PM -0800, Yosem Companys wrote:

This is great, Rick. Thank you.

Last night I found one called "If @user tweets, send me a daily mail" on
IFTTT, and that is the one I used today. But if we can do something better
than that, by all means!

Thanks,
Yosem

On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Rick Valenzuela  wrote:


What do you want the format to look like? You can pull out the data in
JSON format, but the basic get writes out all the metadata associated
with the tweet.
I cobbled together a Python script here: https://gist.github.com/rveebl
efetzer/0f65c6d9ebcee640f33d18f9585af03f

(Note that you need to put in your own API/OAuth info)

Right now it takes the last 10 tweets from the account and puts them
into a text file as JSON. With a little more info, it could be written
to parse that and output the details you need in the format you'd
prefer.
I could put this up in a repo, if others want to tweak and test it.
Time's a little tight for me right now, but I can take a whack at it
here and there.

Best,
Rick

--
Rick Valenzuela
Videojournalist
Shanghai, China

GPG: 0x054124ADD5644029


On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 02:40:53PM -0800, Yosem Companys wrote:


OK, so how about we create a digest of the day's Tweets on @Liberationtech
and send them every morning? Then subscribers will receive one email a day
and decide if any of the tweets are worth discussing.

Does anyone know of a good app that does this? I've found a lot of apps
online that claim to do so, but the majority are dead.

Thanks,
Yosem

On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 4:21 PM, Andrés Pacheco 
wrote:

I'm all for more news, total, aren't we swamped with spam already as it

is? So libre tech news from the twitter feed would help improve the ratio
of spam to good stuff in our inbox.

Tagging is for sissies and I assume this list is full of superduper smart
techies nerds that don't need no stinking badges to filter classify sort
autodeletearchivefile incoming email, oh god how much I miss now emacs
mhmail, "la última Coca-Cola del desierto, or isn't it?

BTW I'm unemployed starting 2 days gym now svdcresfy to join the
resistance, drop me a live if you have something anywhere that you might
think would interest me in the world of ICT4-dev-social/migrant/youth/
anybody's
Justice etc

Regards | Saludos,

Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes


> On Feb 5, 2017, at 2:59 PM, José María Mateos 
wrote:
>
> On Sun, Feb 05, 2017 at 03:41:18PM +0100, carlo von lynX wrote:
>>> - I'd rather have two mailing lists only: one for discussions (all
>>> type   of discussions) and one for announcements. If everything goes
>>> into the   same list, at least have the announcements clearly tagged
>>> so they can   be easily filtered.
>>
>> Okay, but please start with a clone of the subscriptions
>> so we don't have to manually subscribe both to recreate
>> the status quo.
>>
>> Also, please put an automatic Reply-To: in the announcements
>> that leads to the discussion list. I personally would still
>> merge both streams into the same folder because I find it
>> interesting whenever libtech people have a comment to add to
>> a piece of news.
>
> Agree with this.
>
>>>   - An e-mail with news every 10 minutes may be too much. Wouldn't
>>> it be   better to have a daily news digest of some sort? Then anyone
>>> could   start a discussion based on it.
>>
>> I guess most of us absorb the "news" by just grasping what
>> the subject line says, then decide what is worth digging
>> into. A digest format would impede that kind of fast absorption.
>> Anyone who prefers digests can still choose the digest feature
>> of the mailing list software... right?
>
> Yes, as long as the Twitter news is sent to a list that doesn't include
the discussions per se (or are flagged with a [Twitter] tag in the
subject
line so they can be filtered.)
>
> Cheers,
>
> JMM.
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Re: [liberationtech] Should we start a new Stanford liberationtech-news list?

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What do you want the format to look like? You can pull out the data in
JSON format, but the basic get writes out all the metadata associated
with the tweet. 


I cobbled together a Python script here: 
https://gist.github.com/rveeblefetzer/0f65c6d9ebcee640f33d18f9585af03f

(Note that you need to put in your own API/OAuth info)

Right now it takes the last 10 tweets from the account and puts them
into a text file as JSON. With a little more info, it could be written
to parse that and output the details you need in the format you'd
prefer. 


I could put this up in a repo, if others want to tweak and test it.
Time's a little tight for me right now, but I can take a whack at it
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On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 02:40:53PM -0800, Yosem Companys wrote:

OK, so how about we create a digest of the day's Tweets on @Liberationtech
and send them every morning? Then subscribers will receive one email a day
and decide if any of the tweets are worth discussing.

Does anyone know of a good app that does this? I've found a lot of apps
online that claim to do so, but the majority are dead.

Thanks,
Yosem

On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 4:21 PM, Andrés Pacheco  wrote:


I'm all for more news, total, aren't we swamped with spam already as it
is? So libre tech news from the twitter feed would help improve the ratio
of spam to good stuff in our inbox.

Tagging is for sissies and I assume this list is full of superduper smart
techies nerds that don't need no stinking badges to filter classify sort
autodeletearchivefile incoming email, oh god how much I miss now emacs
mhmail, "la última Coca-Cola del desierto, or isn't it?

BTW I'm unemployed starting 2 days gym now svdcresfy to join the
resistance, drop me a live if you have something anywhere that you might
think would interest me in the world of ICT4-dev-social/migrant/youth/anybody's
Justice etc

Regards | Saludos,

Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes


> On Feb 5, 2017, at 2:59 PM, José María Mateos 
wrote:
>
> On Sun, Feb 05, 2017 at 03:41:18PM +0100, carlo von lynX wrote:
>>> - I'd rather have two mailing lists only: one for discussions (all
>>> type   of discussions) and one for announcements. If everything goes
>>> into the   same list, at least have the announcements clearly tagged
>>> so they can   be easily filtered.
>>
>> Okay, but please start with a clone of the subscriptions
>> so we don't have to manually subscribe both to recreate
>> the status quo.
>>
>> Also, please put an automatic Reply-To: in the announcements
>> that leads to the discussion list. I personally would still
>> merge both streams into the same folder because I find it
>> interesting whenever libtech people have a comment to add to
>> a piece of news.
>
> Agree with this.
>
>>>   - An e-mail with news every 10 minutes may be too much. Wouldn't
>>> it be   better to have a daily news digest of some sort? Then anyone
>>> could   start a discussion based on it.
>>
>> I guess most of us absorb the "news" by just grasping what
>> the subject line says, then decide what is worth digging
>> into. A digest format would impede that kind of fast absorption.
>> Anyone who prefers digests can still choose the digest feature
>> of the mailing list software... right?
>
> Yes, as long as the Twitter news is sent to a list that doesn't include
the discussions per se (or are flagged with a [Twitter] tag in the subject
line so they can be filtered.)
>
> Cheers,
>
> JMM.
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Re: [liberationtech] Should we start a new Stanford liberationtech-news list?

[Yosem Companys]

OK, so how about we create a digest of the day's Tweets on @Liberationtech
and send them every morning? Then subscribers will receive one email a day
and decide if any of the tweets are worth discussing.

Does anyone know of a good app that does this? I've found a lot of apps
online that claim to do so, but the majority are dead.

Thanks,
Yosem

On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 4:21 PM, Andrés Pacheco  wrote:

> I'm all for more news, total, aren't we swamped with spam already as it
> is? So libre tech news from the twitter feed would help improve the ratio
> of spam to good stuff in our inbox.
>
> Tagging is for sissies and I assume this list is full of superduper smart
> techies nerds that don't need no stinking badges to filter classify sort
> autodeletearchivefile incoming email, oh god how much I miss now emacs
> mhmail, "la última Coca-Cola del desierto, or isn't it?
>
> BTW I'm unemployed starting 2 days gym now svdcresfy to join the
> resistance, drop me a live if you have something anywhere that you might
> think would interest me in the world of 
> ICT4-dev-social/migrant/youth/anybody's
> Justice etc
>
> Regards | Saludos,
>
> Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes
> 
>
> > On Feb 5, 2017, at 2:59 PM, José María Mateos 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 05, 2017 at 03:41:18PM +0100, carlo von lynX wrote:
> >>> - I'd rather have two mailing lists only: one for discussions (all
> >>> type   of discussions) and one for announcements. If everything goes
> >>> into the   same list, at least have the announcements clearly tagged
> >>> so they can   be easily filtered.
> >>
> >> Okay, but please start with a clone of the subscriptions
> >> so we don't have to manually subscribe both to recreate
> >> the status quo.
> >>
> >> Also, please put an automatic Reply-To: in the announcements
> >> that leads to the discussion list. I personally would still
> >> merge both streams into the same folder because I find it
> >> interesting whenever libtech people have a comment to add to
> >> a piece of news.
> >
> > Agree with this.
> >
> >>>   - An e-mail with news every 10 minutes may be too much. Wouldn't
> >>> it be   better to have a daily news digest of some sort? Then anyone
> >>> could   start a discussion based on it.
> >>
> >> I guess most of us absorb the "news" by just grasping what
> >> the subject line says, then decide what is worth digging
> >> into. A digest format would impede that kind of fast absorption.
> >> Anyone who prefers digests can still choose the digest feature
> >> of the mailing list software... right?
> >
> > Yes, as long as the Twitter news is sent to a list that doesn't include
> the discussions per se (or are flagged with a [Twitter] tag in the subject
> line so they can be filtered.)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > JMM.
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Re: [liberationtech] Should we start a new Stanford liberationtech-news list?

[Andrés Pacheco]

I'm all for more news, total, aren't we swamped with spam already as it is? So 
libre tech news from the twitter feed would help improve the ratio of spam to 
good stuff in our inbox.

Tagging is for sissies and I assume this list is full of superduper smart 
techies nerds that don't need no stinking badges to filter classify sort 
autodeletearchivefile incoming email, oh god how much I miss now emacs mhmail, 
"la última Coca-Cola del desierto, or isn't it?

BTW I'm unemployed starting 2 days gym now svdcresfy to join the resistance, 
drop me a live if you have something anywhere that you might think would 
interest me in the world of ICT4-dev-social/migrant/youth/anybody's Justice etc

Regards | Saludos,

Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes


> On Feb 5, 2017, at 2:59 PM, José María Mateos  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Feb 05, 2017 at 03:41:18PM +0100, carlo von lynX wrote:
>>> - I'd rather have two mailing lists only: one for discussions (all
>>> type   of discussions) and one for announcements. If everything goes
>>> into the   same list, at least have the announcements clearly tagged
>>> so they can   be easily filtered.
>> 
>> Okay, but please start with a clone of the subscriptions
>> so we don't have to manually subscribe both to recreate
>> the status quo.
>> 
>> Also, please put an automatic Reply-To: in the announcements
>> that leads to the discussion list. I personally would still
>> merge both streams into the same folder because I find it
>> interesting whenever libtech people have a comment to add to
>> a piece of news.
> 
> Agree with this.
> 
>>>   - An e-mail with news every 10 minutes may be too much. Wouldn't
>>> it be   better to have a daily news digest of some sort? Then anyone
>>> could   start a discussion based on it.
>> 
>> I guess most of us absorb the "news" by just grasping what
>> the subject line says, then decide what is worth digging
>> into. A digest format would impede that kind of fast absorption.
>> Anyone who prefers digests can still choose the digest feature
>> of the mailing list software... right?
> 
> Yes, as long as the Twitter news is sent to a list that doesn't include the 
> discussions per se (or are flagged with a [Twitter] tag in the subject line 
> so they can be filtered.)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> JMM.
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Re: [liberationtech] Should we start a new Stanford liberationtech-news list?

[José María Mateos]

On Sun, Feb 05, 2017 at 03:41:18PM +0100, carlo von lynX wrote:

- I'd rather have two mailing lists only: one for discussions (all
type   of discussions) and one for announcements. If everything goes
into the   same list, at least have the announcements clearly tagged
so they can   be easily filtered.


Okay, but please start with a clone of the subscriptions
so we don't have to manually subscribe both to recreate
the status quo.

Also, please put an automatic Reply-To: in the announcements
that leads to the discussion list. I personally would still
merge both streams into the same folder because I find it
interesting whenever libtech people have a comment to add to
a piece of news.


Agree with this.


   - An e-mail with news every 10 minutes may be too much. Wouldn't
it be   better to have a daily news digest of some sort? Then anyone
could   start a discussion based on it.


I guess most of us absorb the "news" by just grasping what
the subject line says, then decide what is worth digging
into. A digest format would impede that kind of fast absorption.
Anyone who prefers digests can still choose the digest feature
of the mailing list software... right?


Yes, as long as the Twitter news is sent to a list that doesn't include 
the discussions per se (or are flagged with a [Twitter] tag in the 
subject line so they can be filtered.)


Cheers,

JMM.
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Re: [liberationtech] Should we start a new Stanford liberationtech-news list?

[Yosem Companys]

>
> Okay, but please start with a clone of the subscriptions
> so we don't have to manually subscribe both to recreate
> the status quo.
>

Will do.


> I guess most of us absorb the "news" by just grasping what
> the subject line says, then decide what is worth digging
> into. A digest format would impede that kind of fast absorption.
> Anyone who prefers digests can still choose the digest feature
> of the mailing list software... right?
>

A lot of subscribers complain about the format of the digest mode. But
Stanford mailman doesn't give me the capability to change it.
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Re: [liberationtech] Should we start a new Stanford liberationtech-news list?

[Yosem Companys]

Also, I will see if I can send a digest of the Liberationtech Twitter
stream once a day to the list...

On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Yosem Companys 
wrote:

> My take on this:
>>
>> - I'd rather have two mailing lists only: one for discussions (all type
>>  of discussions) and one for announcements. If everything goes into the
>>  same list, at least have the announcements clearly tagged so they can   be
>> easily filtered.
>>   - An e-mail with news every 10 minutes may be too much. Wouldn't it be
>>  better to have a daily news digest of some sort? Then anyone could   start
>> a discussion based on it.
>>
>> My 2 cents.
>>
>>
>> JMM.
>>
>
> Right now we have an events list, a jobs list, a cfp (call for papers)
> list, and the main list. So the events list is kind of an announcement
> list. But not everyone knows about it, so for Stanford events, we tend to
> post them to the main list.
>
> If there is no opposition, we could replicate the list of subscribers of
> the main list and add them to the events list, with the caveat that it is
> an announcements list.
>
> Alternatively, we could get rid of the events list, and replicate the list
> of subscribers of the main list and add them to a new list that would be
> called liberationtech-announcements.
>
> What do you all think?
>
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Re: [liberationtech] Should we start a new Stanford liberationtech-news list?

[Yosem Companys]

>
> My take on this:
>
> - I'd rather have two mailing lists only: one for discussions (all type
>  of discussions) and one for announcements. If everything goes into the
>  same list, at least have the announcements clearly tagged so they can   be
> easily filtered.
>   - An e-mail with news every 10 minutes may be too much. Wouldn't it be
>  better to have a daily news digest of some sort? Then anyone could   start
> a discussion based on it.
>
> My 2 cents.
>
>
> JMM.
>

Right now we have an events list, a jobs list, a cfp (call for papers)
list, and the main list. So the events list is kind of an announcement
list. But not everyone knows about it, so for Stanford events, we tend to
post them to the main list.

If there is no opposition, we could replicate the list of subscribers of
the main list and add them to the events list, with the caveat that it is
an announcements list.

Alternatively, we could get rid of the events list, and replicate the list
of subscribers of the main list and add them to a new list that would be
called liberationtech-announcements.

What do you all think?
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Re: [liberationtech] Should we start a new Stanford liberationtech-news list?

[carlo von lynX]

On Sun, Feb 05, 2017 at 08:34:45AM -0500, José María Mateos wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 04, 2017 at 08:27:39PM -0800, Yosem Companys wrote:
> >Well, I was thinking that this list would be for discussion. The other for
> >the sharing and discussing of news articles. Not every discussion is
> >initiated by news articles on this list.

Most conversations are triggered by news, however.
I'm actually fine with the way it is. News is
usually what started as a new thread, so I don't
have difficulty distinguishing the two.

> - I'd rather have two mailing lists only: one for discussions (all
> type   of discussions) and one for announcements. If everything goes
> into the   same list, at least have the announcements clearly tagged
> so they can   be easily filtered.

Okay, but please start with a clone of the subscriptions
so we don't have to manually subscribe both to recreate
the status quo.

Also, please put an automatic Reply-To: in the announcements
that leads to the discussion list. I personally would still
merge both streams into the same folder because I find it
interesting whenever libtech people have a comment to add to
a piece of news.

>- An e-mail with news every 10 minutes may be too much. Wouldn't
> it be   better to have a daily news digest of some sort? Then anyone
> could   start a discussion based on it.

I guess most of us absorb the "news" by just grasping what
the subject line says, then decide what is worth digging
into. A digest format would impede that kind of fast absorption.
Anyone who prefers digests can still choose the digest feature
of the mailing list software... right?

> My 2 cents.

+2

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Re: [liberationtech] Should we start a new Stanford liberationtech-news list?

[José María Mateos]

On Sat, Feb 04, 2017 at 08:27:39PM -0800, Yosem Companys wrote:

Well, I was thinking that this list would be for discussion. The other for
the sharing and discussing of news articles. Not every discussion is
initiated by news articles on this list.

Also, if you look at our Twitter stream, we often send tweets every 10
minutes a day, so it provide those who do not want to use Twitter to see a
review of the day's news right in their mailbox.

We could take a vote, but I rather let others share their ideas and
concerns before we do so.


My take on this:

- I'd rather have two mailing lists only: one for discussions (all type 
  of discussions) and one for announcements. If everything goes into the 
  same list, at least have the announcements clearly tagged so they can 
  be easily filtered.
  
- An e-mail with news every 10 minutes may be too much. Wouldn't it be 
  better to have a daily news digest of some sort? Then anyone could 
  start a discussion based on it.


My 2 cents.

JMM.

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