Re: Should Canoeboot become GNU Canoeboot?
On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 9:04 AM Andy Tai <[1]a...@atai.org> wrote: why not just call it GNU Libreboot. The Libreboot name is well known. Suggestion: Accept Libreboot as GNU. Leave GNU Boot alone. If that project is dead, let it die. Do not force its developers to do anything one way or another. The developer's of GNU Boot (in conjunction with GNU) should decide the future of their own package. Attempts to do otherwise might find Canoeboot paddling upstream! :-) As Andy suggested, why not "GNU Libreboot"? Happy Hacking Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! References: 1. GNU C-Graph: [2]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. Code Art Now: [3]http://codeartnow.com 3. Abertheid Campaign: [4]http://www.abertheid.info/icc/pre-indictment-brief-05. 10.2006.pdf 4. Follow me on Twitter: [5]@AdrienneGT [6]@GNUcgraph 5. Let's Link Up: [7]https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ 6. Knees On My Neck: [8]https://twitter.com/AdrienneGT/status/1288648018783277068 7. Rise Up for Richard Stallman: [9]https://www.stallmansupport.org References 1. mailto:a...@atai.org 2. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 3. http://codeartnow.com/ 4. http://www.abertheid.info/icc/pre-indictment-brief-05.10.2006.pdf 5. http://twitter.com/adriennegt 6. http://twitter.com/GNUcgraph 7. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ 8. https://twitter.com/AdrienneGT/status/1288648018783277068 9. https://www.stallmansupport.org/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: FSF official site does not announce important events
On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 1:19 PM Akira Urushibata <[1]a...@wta.att.ne.jp> wrote: An article in the Techrights site says that FSF does not announce events featuring lectures by Richard Stallman on its official site any more. We cannot allow our leader - the Founder of the Free Software Movement that has revolutionised industries, worldwide - to be treated like this. The FSF should not need donations from entities who seek to cancel the prophet of the Free Software Movement. Like Schestowitz, I too believe that the attacks on RMS - which came to a head in 2019 - are continuing. Let's find a way to protect him, promote his vision, and accelerate his mission. We need a fearless counter campaign. Adrienne G. Thompson Principal and Chief Code Artist, GNU C-Graph -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! References: 1. GNU C-Graph: [2]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. Code Art Now: [3]http://codeartnow.com 3. Abertheid Campaign: [4]http://www.abertheid.info/icc/pre-indictment-brief-05. 10.2006.pdf 4. Follow me on Twitter: [5]@AdrienneGT [6]@GNUcgraph 5. Let's Link Up: [7]https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ 6. Knees On My Neck: [8]https://twitter.com/AdrienneGT/status/1288648018783277068 7. Rise Up for Richard Stallman: [9]https://www.stallmansupport.org References 1. mailto:a...@wta.att.ne.jp 2. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 3. http://codeartnow.com/ 4. http://www.abertheid.info/icc/pre-indictment-brief-05.10.2006.pdf 5. http://twitter.com/adriennegt 6. http://twitter.com/GNUcgraph 7. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ 8. https://twitter.com/AdrienneGT/status/1288648018783277068 9. https://www.stallmansupport.org/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: FSF official site does not announce important events
Fellow Hackers: We need a fearless counter campaign. Roy Schestowitz explains that he was advised by an "insider": [1]http://techrights.org/n/2024/04/22/Video_Online_Brigade_Demands_That _the_Person_Who_Started_GNU_Li.shtml We already know that the attacks on our founder are a proxy for the subversion of software freedom to serve proprietary interests. Have we taken note of the "openwashing" identity of the Linux Foundation? [2]https://techrights.org/o/2019/09/14/proprietary-software-giants-as-f riends/ [3]http://techrights.org/o/2022/11/16/lf-openwashing-services-microsoft / [4]https://techrights.org/o/2022/02/18/linux-foundation-board-2022/ What do we become if we allow our core precept of "Freedom" to be trampled on by the coercive threat of withholding donations? The global digital economy runs on Free Software: [5]https://hbr.org/2021/09/the-digital-economy-runs-on-open-source-here s-how-to-protect-it GNU hackers are gifted individuals capable of providing unparalleled consulting services to industries - around the world - that rely on our software. Perhaps the FSF could begin to devise new sources of revenue by formally expanding our financial model to include services? In respect of the latter, we would need an operations management team to: 1) Undertake a market analysis 2) Develop an operational plan. We also need to formulate a plan concerning our kernel. Let's rid ourselves of the persistent threat by proprietary entities to defund Software Freedom. Adrienne G. Thompson -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! References: 1. GNU C-Graph: [6]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. Code Art Now: [7]http://codeartnow.com 3. Abertheid Campaign: [8]http://www.abertheid.info/icc/pre-indictment-brief-05. 10.2006.pdf 4. Follow me on Twitter: [9]@AdrienneGT [10]@GNUcgraph 5. Let's Link Up: [11]https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ 6. Knees On My Neck: [12]https://twitter.com/AdrienneGT/status/1288648018783277068 7. Rise Up for Richard Stallman: [13]https://www.stallmansupport.org References 1. http://techrights.org/n/2024/04/22/Video_Online_Brigade_Demands_That_the_Person_Who_Started_GNU_Li.shtml 2. https://techrights.org/o/2019/09/14/proprietary-software-giants-as-friends/ 3. http://techrights.org/o/2022/11/16/lf-openwashing-services-microsoft/ 4. https://techrights.org/o/2022/02/18/linux-foundation-board-2022/ 5. https://hbr.org/2021/09/the-digital-economy-runs-on-open-source-heres-how-to-protect-it 6. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 7. http://codeartnow.com/ 8. http://www.abertheid.info/icc/pre-indictment-brief-05.10.2006.pdf 9. http://twitter.com/adriennegt 10. http://twitter.com/GNUcgraph 11. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ 12. https://twitter.com/AdrienneGT/status/1288648018783277068 13. https://www.stallmansupport.org/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: Tom Lord passing
On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 4:08 PM Andy Tai <[1]a...@atai.org> wrote: from [2]https://berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue/2022-06-26/article/498 37 Thomas Lord 1966-2022 He died unexpectedly this week of a massive brain hemorrhage. I had perceptive exchanges from Thomas. More recently, I appreciated his comments in support of RMS on [3]stallmansupport.org: <[4]https://stallmansupport.org/testimonies-letters-writings-and-more.h tml> I planned to contact him again to discuss various issues - when next I found the time. OUCH!!! Tom seemed to have had a lot of ideas for helping the FSF grow, and I told him so. We've lost his talent, insight, and energy - but not his memory. May he Rest In Peace! Adrienne G. Thompson Principal and Chief Code Artist GNU C-Graph -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! References: 1. GNU C-Graph: [5]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. Code Art Now: [6]http://codeartnow.com 3. Abertheid Campaign: [7]http://www.abertheid.info/icc/pre-indictment-brief-05. 10.2006.pdf 4. Follow me on Twitter: [8]@AdrienneGT [9]@GNUcgraph 5. Let's Link Up: [10]https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ 6. Knees On My Neck: [11]https://twitter.com/AdrienneGT/status/1288648018783277068 7. Rise Up for Richard Stallman: [12]https://www.stallmansupport.org References 1. mailto:a...@atai.org 2. https://berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue/2022-06-26/article/49837 3. http://stallmansupport.org/ 4. https://stallmansupport.org/testimonies-letters-writings-and-more.html 5. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 6. http://codeartnow.com/ 7. http://www.abertheid.info/icc/pre-indictment-brief-05.10.2006.pdf 8. http://twitter.com/adriennegt 9. http://twitter.com/GNUcgraph 10. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ 11. https://twitter.com/AdrienneGT/status/1288648018783277068 12. https://www.stallmansupport.org/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: thank you elon musk
Hi Thomas: If the FSF is not now going very hard on promoting Mastadon, they should never be trusted to anything right again. Why take such a negative approach? Why not, instead, propose a campaign to promote Mastodon? We are here to support the Free Software Movement - a movement that relies on contributions beyond code. Adrienne G. Thompson Principal and Chief Code Artist, GNU C-Graph -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! References: 1. GNU C-Graph: [1]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. Code Art Now: [2]http://codeartnow.com 3. Abertheid Campaign: [3]http://www.abertheid.info/icc/pre-indictment-brief-05. 10.2006.pdf 4. Follow me on Twitter: [4]@AdrienneGT [5]@GNUcgraph 5. Let's Link Up: [6]https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ 6. Knees On My Neck: [7]https://twitter.com/AdrienneGT/status/1288648018783277068 7. Rise Up for Richard Stallman: [8]https://www.stallmansupport.org References 1. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. http://codeartnow.com/ 3. http://www.abertheid.info/icc/pre-indictment-brief-05.10.2006.pdf 4. http://twitter.com/adriennegt 5. http://twitter.com/GNUcgraph 6. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ 7. https://twitter.com/AdrienneGT/status/1288648018783277068 8. https://www.stallmansupport.org/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?
On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 3:01 PM Dora Scilipoti <[1]d...@gnu.org> wrote: > Richard did not found the free > software/libre movement, as well as his world, alone. Yes, he founded it alone: [2]https://www.gnu.org/gnu/initial-announcement.html Even Wikipedia got it right: "Although drawing on traditions and philosophies among members of the 1970s hacker culture and academia, Richard Stallman formally founded the movement in 1983 by launching the GNU Project.[3] Stallman later established the Free Software Foundation in 1985 to support the movement." [3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software_movement "Stallman launched the GNU Project in September 1983 to write a Unix-like computer operating system composed entirely of free software... With this, he also launched the free software movement." [4]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman Thanks Dora. Adrienne G. Thompson Principal and Chief Code Artist, GNU C-Graph -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! References: 1. GNU C-Graph: [5]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. Code Art Now: [6]http://codeartnow.com 3. Abertheid Campaign: [7]http://www.abertheid.info/icc/pre-indictment-brief-05. 10.2006.pdf 4. Follow me on Twitter: [8]@AdrienneGT [9]@GNUcgraph 5. Let's Link Up: [10]https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ 6. Knees On My Neck: [11]https://twitter.com/AdrienneGT/status/1288648018783277068 7. Rise Up for Richard Stallman: [12]https://www.stallmansupport.org References 1. mailto:d...@gnu.org 2. https://www.gnu.org/gnu/initial-announcement.html 3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software_movement 4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman 5. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 6. http://codeartnow.com/ 7. http://www.abertheid.info/icc/pre-indictment-brief-05.10.2006.pdf 8. http://twitter.com/adriennegt 9. http://twitter.com/GNUcgraph 10. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ 11. https://twitter.com/AdrienneGT/status/1288648018783277068 12. https://www.stallmansupport.org/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?
Danny: Maybe then the LibrePlanet organizers need to change the name!! "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet"! You can change the name, but you can't change the founder and leader of the Free/Libre Software world. The Conference will, de facto, always be "Stallman Con"!!! Adrienne G. Thompson Principal and Chief Code Artist, GNU C-Graph -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! References: 1. GNU C-Graph: [1]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. Code Art Now: [2]http://codeartnow.com 3. Abertheid Campaign: [3]http://www.abertheid.info/icc/pre-indictment-brief-05. 10.2006.pdf 4. Follow me on Twitter: [4]@AdrienneGT [5]@GNUcgraph 5. Let's Link Up: [6]https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ 6. Knees On My Neck: [7]https://twitter.com/AdrienneGT/status/1288648018783277068 7. Rise Up for Richard Stallman: [8]https://www.stallmansupport.org References 1. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. http://codeartnow.com/ 3. http://www.abertheid.info/icc/pre-indictment-brief-05.10.2006.pdf 4. http://twitter.com/adriennegt 5. http://twitter.com/GNUcgraph 6. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ 7. https://twitter.com/AdrienneGT/status/1288648018783277068 8. https://www.stallmansupport.org/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?
Hey Danny: People can organize StallmanCon any time RMS is available and he can be the only speaker! Dr. Richard Stallman - aka RMS - is the founder and leader of the Free/Libre Software Movement. "Libre Planet "is StallmanCon!!! Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! References: 1. GNU C-Graph: [1]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. Code Art Now: [2]http://codeartnow.com 3. Abertheid Campaign: [3]http://www.abertheid.info/icc/pre-indictment-brief-05. 10.2006.pdf 4. Follow me on Twitter: [4]@AdrienneGT [5]@GNUcgraph 5. Let's Link Up: [6]https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ 6. Knees On My Neck: [7]https://twitter.com/AdrienneGT/status/1288648018783277068 7. Rise Up for Richard Stallman: [8]https://www.stallmansupport.org References 1. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. http://codeartnow.com/ 3. http://www.abertheid.info/icc/pre-indictment-brief-05.10.2006.pdf 4. http://twitter.com/adriennegt 5. http://twitter.com/GNUcgraph 6. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ 7. https://twitter.com/AdrienneGT/status/1288648018783277068 8. https://www.stallmansupport.org/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?
Fellow Free Software Supporters:
Let's let the Libre Planet organisers know that the worldwide Free
software community needs to hear our leader and founder of the Free
Software Movement, Richard Stallman, address the Libre Planet 2022
conference!! Contact the FSF via this list "libreplanet discuss", email
<[1]campai...@fsf.org>, <[2]i...@fsf.org>, or telephone
"+1-617-542-5942" !!!
On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 7:03 PM Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
<[3]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org> wrote:
Hi all,
I was excited when FSF announced the libreplanet 2022 schedule just
recently, but something immediately caught my eye:
RMS isn't on the speakers list this year.
Is there a reason?
Adrienne G. Thompson
Principal and Chief Code Artist, GNU C-Graph
--
Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN!
References:
1. GNU C-Graph: [4]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph
2. Code Art Now: [5]http://codeartnow.com
3. Abertheid
Campaign: [6]http://www.abertheid.info/icc/pre-indictment-brief-05.
10.2006.pdf
4. Follow me on Twitter: [7]@AdrienneGT [8]@GNUcgraph
5. Let's Link Up: [9]https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/
6. Knees On My
Neck: [10]https://twitter.com/AdrienneGT/status/1288648018783277068
7. Rise Up for Richard Stallman: [11]https://www.stallmansupport.org
References
1. mailto:campai...@fsf.org
2. mailto:i...@fsf.org
3. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
4. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph
5. http://codeartnow.com/
6. http://www.abertheid.info/icc/pre-indictment-brief-05.10.2006.pdf
7. http://twitter.com/adriennegt
8. http://twitter.com/GNUcgraph
9. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/
10. https://twitter.com/AdrienneGT/status/1288648018783277068
11. https://www.stallmansupport.org/
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Re: The anti-GNU defamatory group of Ludovic Courtès - Re: assessment of the GNU Assembly project
> [...] when a woman wrote us to express > personally and specifically her concerns around RMS we ran her off, and > ran her down. If you are talking about the woman who wrote to this list back in Oct 2019, I was one of the people who responded to her, and I was polite and respectful... Since Sep 2019 to this day, RMS has received hundreds --hundreds-- of private messages of support, including from women. +1 Dora!! Such is the level of fright that this self-righteousness cult has created. It's unsustainable and it has to stop. It _will_ stop I disagree, however, that "It _will_ stop". The corporate-backed campaign against RMS chooses to exploit women to throw their grenades. These women are proxies, front[women] serving greedy corporate interests seeking to control Free/Libre/Open-source software. We should not give them (the proxies) legitimacy by entertaining them. Legal action will be necessary to bring an end to the attacks. Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! References: 1. GNU C-Graph: [1]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. Code Art Now: [2]http://codeartnow.com 3. Abertheid Campaign: [3]http://www.abertheid.info 4. Follow me on Twitter: [4]@AdrienneGT [5]@GNUcgraph 5. Let's Link Up: [6]https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ 6. Knees On My Neck: [7]https://twitter.com/AdrienneGT/status/1288648018783277068 7. Rise Up for Richard Stallman: [8]https://www.stallmansupport.org References 1. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. http://codeartnow.com/ 3. http://www.abertheid.info/ 4. http://twitter.com/adriennegt 5. http://twitter.com/GNUcgraph 6. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ 7. https://twitter.com/AdrienneGT/status/1288648018783277068 8. https://www.stallmansupport.org/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: Support RMS
Jean Louis: _ _ _ | |__ __ _ | |__ __ _ | |__ __ _ | '_ \ / _` | | '_ \ / _` | | '_ \ / _` | | | | | (_| | | | | | (_| | | | | | (_| | |_| |_|\__,_| |_| |_|\__,_| |_| |_|\__,_| Yes, humour was the objective. I was trying to inject some into the conversation while trying to convert the insufferable "footnote" to an "endnote"! :-) Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! Support RMS! Add your signature here: [1]https://rms-support-letter.github.io/ GNU C-Graph - [2]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [3]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [4]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph Let's Link Up: [5]https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ References Visible links 1. https://rms-support-letter.github.io/ 2. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 3. http://codeartnow.com/ 4. http://www.abertheid.info/ 5. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ Hidden links: 7. https://rms-support-letter.github.io/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: Support RMS - find new communities
Adrienne, we don’t know each other, so I’ll share this: my intent has been to find a safe and smart and welcoming community. If constructive criticism comes across to you as an attack If anyone on this list can recommend other productive and happy community spaces for free software, please let me know! Hope you find the kind of community you're looking for Danny. Good luck and happy hacking! Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [1]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [2]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [3]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph Let's Link Up: [4]https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ References 1. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. http://codeartnow.com/ 3. http://www.abertheid.info/ 4. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: Support RMS
Aaron, there is no resolution. They have demonstrated beyond any doubt that they do not want and will not enter into any resolution. It's never been about resolution, though, but attack. The intent is to destroy free software for the benefit of corporate vultures. Paraphrasing Mark 6:11 and Proverbs 10:18 - And verily I say unto ye - he that conceals hatred has lying lips, and he who spreads slander is a fool. For St. IGNUcius shall shake off the dust under his feet for a testimony against ye. And ye who blaspheme [[1]https://rms-open-letter.github.io/] can never fill his shoes. Enough fun for the day. I'm off to work on GNU C-Graph! Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! References: 1. GNU C-Graph - [2]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. Code Art Now - [3]http://codeartnow.com 3. Abertheid Campaign - [4]http://www.abertheid.info 4. Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph 5. Let's Link Up: [5]https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ References 1. https://rms-open-letter.github.io/ 2. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 3. http://codeartnow.com/ 4. http://www.abertheid.info/ 5. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: Support RMS
> * Danny Spitzberg <[1]stationa...@gmail.com> [2021-04-16 08:21]: > "(I was not close enough to smell his feet, however)" Paraphrasing the gospel of Luke 7:36-39: And behold - one of those in the Free/Libre Software community who was a sinner shall stand at his feet weeping, and shall wash his feet with tears, and wipe them with the hairs of his/her head, and kiss his feet and anoint them with ointment ... for s/he is a sinner who has blasphemed against St. IGNUcius of EMACS. Danny, next time you're fortunate enough to sit by RMS' feet, be cognisant of your status in the presence of the man who revolutionised the software industry by giving users freedom! - "I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent ye shall all likewise perish." (Luke 13:3-5) :-) Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! References: 1. GNU C-Graph - [2]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. Code Art Now - [3]http://codeartnow.com 3. Abertheid Campaign - [4]http://www.abertheid.info 4. Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph 5. Let's Link Up: [5]https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ References 1. mailto:stationa...@gmail.com 2. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 3. http://codeartnow.com/ 4. http://www.abertheid.info/ 5. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: Support RMS
Hey Alexandre: Hi, Deb, You shouldn't really expect anyone believe any of your far less over-the-top allegations, after you cried wolf putting your name under obviously false allegations, should you? Didn't you think ahead that you'd be ruining your reputation to the point that even any true allegations you might have would be harder to believe after that? This might be bait. We don't need you to waste your time and energy. We need you to help RMS and the FSF continue to build on the vision of free software that has revolutionised the global software industry. The fact that this revolution has incurred the wrath of corporations who have resorted to the exploitation of female faces as proxies in their attempt to literally behead the leader of the Free Software movement - is testament to its resounding and unprecedented success. There is much work to do. Let's reserve our energies to build the future of Free Software! I propose that we enlist our media friends and attorneys to devise strategies - through the courts and the media - to force the wolves into retreat. Adrienne G. Thompson Principal and Chief Code Artist, GNU C-Graph -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! References: 1. GNU C-Graph - [1]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. Code Art Now - [2]http://codeartnow.com 3. Abertheid Campaign - [3]http://www.abertheid.info 4. Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph 5. Let's Link Up: [4]https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ References 1. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. http://codeartnow.com/ 3. http://www.abertheid.info/ 4. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: Support RMS
Ali: I am not speaking on behalf of the GNU Project or a team behind a package. I don't want to cause misunderstanding. It doesn't matter whether I'm a member of FSF/GNU or not, we're a community, nobody and no project is superior to another. I don't like to put the name of GNU Project/package in front of my name because I don't want to (in any way) imply that my opinion matters more or I am talking from a stronger position. It's not about superiority or voicing support from any perceived stronger position. It's simply about the show of solidarity, so the public can see that those affiliated with GNU packages support our founder and Chief Executive. Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [1]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [2]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [3]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph Let's Link Up: [4]https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ References 1. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. http://codeartnow.com/ 3. http://www.abertheid.info/ 4. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: Support RMS
> The intent to destroy the Free Software Movement for the purposes of procuring financial advantage might even be criminal and should be investigated This sounds like a big claim. What's the evidence? It's not a "claim". We already know that corporations are behind the attack. I explicitly proposed investigation. I'm sure you know the meaning of "investigate". Here's one definition from [1]dictionary.com: "Investigations are usually formal and official. The word ... is used in many other contexts to refer to the process of [2]investigating—systematically finding and examining [3]evidence." Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! References: 1. GNU C-Graph - [4]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. Code Art Now - [5]http://codeartnow.com 3. Abertheid Campaign - [6]http://www.abertheid.info 4. Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph 5. Let's Link Up: [7]https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ References 1. http://dictionary.com/ 2. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/investigate 3. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/evidence 4. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 5. http://codeartnow.com/ 6. http://www.abertheid.info/ 7. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: Support RMS
On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 6:24 AM Ali Reza Hayati <[1]a...@gnu.org> wrote: As the lies are still being told and not-at-all-proven accusations go on, I thought it's good to mention the [2]https://stallmansupport.org site. It has a link to the support letter and also includes good articles from Nadine Strossen, Hannah Wolfman-Jones, Sylvia Paull, Renata Avila, and Leah Rowe. When you sign the letter supporting RMS at: [3]https://codeberg.org/rms-support-letter/rms-support-letter/issues/1 please indicate the name of the GNU package with which you are associated as maintainer, contributor or otherwise. It is essential that we demonstrate solidarity in the face of the ongoing attack. Thank you Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! References: 1. GNU C-Graph - [4]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. Code Art Now - [5]http://codeartnow.com 3. Abertheid Campaign - [6]http://www.abertheid.info 4. Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph 5. Let's Link Up: [7]https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ References 1. mailto:a...@gnu.org 2. https://stallmansupport.org/ 3. https://codeberg.org/rms-support-letter/rms-support-letter/issues/1 4. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 5. http://codeartnow.com/ 6. http://www.abertheid.info/ 7. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: Support RMS
On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 10:21 AM Jean Louis wrote: > Can you easily sue people who are backed by multi billion dollar > companies, or more to the point sue and win. Of course it is possible. And need not cost much. As members of the free software community we may have standing to bring a suit ourselves. We would need to get some legal advice and to organise funds. I must warn you. My impression is that RMS is not likely to countenance such legal action. He's too much of a nice person. However, our legal standing (i.e. our interest in protecting our work as members of the free software community) is not dependent on RMS' approval. The defamation of our founder's character impacts members of the community. The intent to destroy the Free Software Movement for the purposes of procuring financial advantage might even be criminal and should be investigated. As the campaign against RMS is no doubt continuing, we need to explore all possible defences. Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [1]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [2]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [3]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph Let's Link Up: [4]https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ References 1. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. http://codeartnow.com/ 3. http://www.abertheid.info/ 4. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: Support RMS
As the lies are still being told and not-at-all-proven accusations go on, I thought it's good to mention the [1]https://stallmansupport.org site. It has a link to the support letter and also includes good articles from Nadine Strossen, Hannah Wolfman-Jones, Sylvia Paull, Renata Avila, and Leah Rowe. Many people are still repeating lies so it's still needed to work to protect our community from being a place for organizations abuse their power. Thank you Ali. A GNU colleague alerted me to the site days ago. I've been tweeting to spread the word. Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! References: 1. GNU C-Graph - [2]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. Code Art Now - [3]http://codeartnow.com 3. Abertheid Campaign - [4]http://www.abertheid.info 4. Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph 5. Let's Link Up: [5]https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ References 1. https://stallmansupport.org/ 2. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 3. http://codeartnow.com/ 4. http://www.abertheid.info/ 5. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: RMS is back on board
In addition to your emails to [1]i...@fsf.org, please add your names to the open letter supporting RMS organised by [2]codeberg.org: If you want to support the letter without using Github, go here: [3]https://codeberg.org/rms-support-letter/rms-support-letter/issues /1, or send a signed patch to [4]sign...@prog.cf or ~tyil/[5]rms-supp...@lists.sr.ht. For those who might be reluctant to be associated with anything "github". Please also note that the Codeberg guys have the github page mirrored at gitlab: [6]https://rms-support-letter.gitlab.io/ Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [7]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [8]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [9]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph Let's Link Up: [10]https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ References 1. mailto:i...@fsf.org 2. http://codeberg.org/ 3. https://codeberg.org/rms-support-letter/rms-support-letter/issues/1 4. mailto:sign...@prog.cf 5. mailto:rms-supp...@lists.sr.ht 6. https://rms-support-letter.gitlab.io/ 7. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 8. http://codeartnow.com/ 9. http://www.abertheid.info/ 10. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: libreplanet-discuss Digest, Vol 131, Issue 17 Re: RMS is back on board
Hi Adrien In normal circumstances, I would avoid using Github too. But corporations, their power, and money are far too capable of waging asymmetric wars. We need all the support and tools we can get our hands on. Thanks for the link. I signed. PS: You have a nice name! :-) Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! References: 1. GNU C-Graph - [1]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. Code Art Now - [2]http://codeartnow.com 3. Abertheid Campaign - [3]http://www.abertheid.info 4. Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph 5. Let's Link Up: [4]https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ >Hi, >I recall there has been some reason to avoid Github, but discussing >the support of RMS being back on board, I thought of sharing a link > >[5]https://rms-support-letter.github.io/ > >in case you are not aware of it yet. I consider mailing FSF a better >option, yet I was happy to see some activity in favour of RMS and FSF >after spending a rahter unproducitve evening trying to get some input >to remind me what the negative reaction from EFF and some individuals >on Twitter was all about. I guess > >[6]https://www.fsf.org/news/preliminary-board-statement-on-fsf-gove rnance > >might be a reaction to that fuss possibly, but I consider transparency >a good thing, generally speaking. I hope they are not going to mess >that up. > >Happy hacking ;) > >Jan > > >On 3/25/21, [7]libreplanet-discuss-requ...@libreplanet.org ><[8]libreplanet-discuss-requ...@libreplanet.org> wrote: >> Send libreplanet-discuss mailing list submissions to >> [9]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> [10]https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discu ss >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [11]libreplanet-discuss-requ...@libreplanet.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [12]libreplanet-discuss-ow...@libreplanet.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of libreplanet-discuss digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >>1. Re: Today: LilyPond Workshop shortly after LibrePlanet >> workshop planned. (Tobias Platen) >>2. Re: RMS is back on board (Ali Reza Hayati) >>3. Re: RMS is back on board (Adrienne G. Thompson) >>4. Non-functional/non-practical data/works (was: Re: RMS is back >> on board) (Adonay Felipe Nogueira) >>5. Re: RMS is back on board (Ali Reza Hayati) >> >> >> -- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2021 18:14:56 +0100 >> From: Tobias Platen <[13]tpla...@posteo.de> >> To: [14]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org >> Subject: Re: Today: LilyPond Workshop shortly after LibrePlanet >> workshop planned. >> Message-ID: <[15]20210325181456.0e5dc9a09e5c9da76d3c9...@posteo.de> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >> >> On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 08:44:47 +0100 >> Robert <[16]rob...@itcave.de> wrote: >> >>> would there still be a place available? >> yes, 8 places available >> >> -- >> Tobias Platen <[17]tpla...@posteo.de> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2021 21:01:27 + >> From: Ali Reza Hayati <[18]hay...@riseup.net> >> To: Dennis Payne <[19]du...@identicalsoftware.com>, >> [20]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org >> Subject: Re: RMS is back on board >> Message-ID: <[21]ba4fe65c-5e8b-47d0-ae98-10f886d82...@riseup.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> As I said, there's no "proof". A story, even if the whole world tells it, >> doesn't matter unless there's proof. >> >> On March 25, 2021 8:39:16 PM UTC, Dennis Payne <[22]du...@identicalsoftware.com> >> wrote: >>>On Thu, 2021-03-25 at 21:44 +0430, Ali Reza Hayati wrote: >>>> I wrote
Re: Support RMS
Just found an open letter in support of RMS: [1]https://rms-support-letter.github.io/ Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [2]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [3]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [4]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph Let's Link Up: [5]https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ References 1. https://rms-support-letter.github.io/ 2. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 3. http://codeartnow.com/ 4. http://www.abertheid.info/ 5. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: Support RMS
Hi Ali: Recently, RMS announced that he's back on FSF board of directors. Now, some organizations and people are attacking FSF and RMS and are asking them to resign. My letter is almost done. I shall send it to [1]i...@fsf.org in a few minutes. Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [2]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [3]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [4]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph Let's Link Up: [5]https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ References 1. mailto:i...@fsf.org 2. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 3. http://codeartnow.com/ 4. http://www.abertheid.info/ 5. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: RMS is back on board
Ali: Please send your support of RMS to [1]i...@fsf.org. This would be much appreciated. I was in the process of drafting an email to [2]i...@fsf.org when I received your message. I'll be sending it today, and wish to encourage others to email messages of support too - asap! Also, please don't forget that Alexandre Oliva has been axed on account of canvassing support for RMS' reinstatement. RMS will need support from his allies on the Board. Let's address that too. Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [3]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [4]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [5]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph Let's Link Up: [6]https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ References 1. mailto:i...@fsf.org 2. mailto:i...@fsf.org 3. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 4. http://codeartnow.com/ 5. http://www.abertheid.info/ 6. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: RMS is back on board
RMS announced he is back on the FSF board [1][1]https://twitter.com/nixcraft/status/1373905399707955202 but his name is not (yet?) on the FSF website [2][2]https://www.fsf.org/about/staff-and-board/ ? So here's my tweet: "Hooray!!! #RMS is back on the board of the #FSF after being axed in 2019. A plot by corporate vultures to rustle up opportunity to exploit #FreeSoftware, #MIT professors reciprocated by pretending that they didn't know how to read. #GNU #Linux [3]https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/22/22344910/richard-stallman-returns -free-software-foundation-board-comments" Yes RMS' name is now at the end of the fsf page, but not as President: [4]https://www.fsf.org/about/staff-and-board They've also axed Oliva for suggesting that prospective members send a message to the FSF indicating their wish to have RMS reinstated.This is Oliva's communication: "Would you make a pledge to become a new member, or to renew your membership, if the FSF gets Richard back in the board of directors? Please email it to the FSF contact address (info), copying myself (oliva, at fsf or gnu). Past communications in his favor have generally failed to reach the board of directors, and I believe this would be valuable information for the directors and voting members to have. Would you do that for me, for Richard, for the FSF, for the Free Software Movement? That would be much appreciated! Thanks in advance!" RMS will need his friends, like Oliva, by his side. Let's put the FSF on probation, until we're quite sure that RMS is not being constrained or "handled" in any way. Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! References: 1. GNU C-Graph - [5]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. Code Art Now - [6]http://codeartnow.com 3. Abertheid Campaign - [7]http://www.abertheid.info 4. Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph 5. Let's Link Up: [8]https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ References Visible links 1. https://twitter.com/nixcraft/status/1373905399707955202 2. https://www.fsf.org/about/staff-and-board/ 3. https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/22/22344910/richard-stallman-returns-free-software-foundation-board-comments 4. https://www.fsf.org/about/staff-and-board 5. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 6. http://codeartnow.com/ 7. http://www.abertheid.info/ 8. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ Hidden links: 10. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: Sacrifices made for Free Software
But, through blogging, I'm seeing how facing challenges other students didn't has given me useful experience to be more effective at promoting free software. Best of luck Nicholas - with both your free/libre software advocacy - and your university studies. May the Force be with you! Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [1]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [2]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [3]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph Let's Link Up: [4]https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ References 1. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. http://codeartnow.com/ 3. http://www.abertheid.info/ 4. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: Sacrifices made for Free Software
Hi Jean Louis: Finally, think about the degrees, many times people with degree will get employed in companies where their bosses don't have any degree. It is case with me, I have no degree and I am employing people with degree, and many times it means little, we want practical skills to be demonstrated, with the degree or not. I've met a lot of people who either dropped out from university or simply didn't have the opportunity to go because of their circumstances. Some of them are highly intelligent, sometimes more so than others who resumes are literally wrapped in 3 degrees (not the vocal group :-) ) Right now I'm having to deal with an absolute JackA** who did his PhD at MIT. He has 3 degrees. This fellow has been recruited to advise Jamaicans that I'm not the author of GNU C-Graph because, as he claims, C-Graph could not have been written in the Third World! He is really fronting as a stooge / Uncle Tom for the defendants in the criminal matter concerning the theft of my BSc thesis, but the point I'm trying to make is that even with a PhD he apparently doesn't realise that he's made himself into a major league a**. We all know that some of the most talented entrepreneurs and hackers amongst us dropped out of university and changed the world. I'm merely pointing out to Nicholas that his odds of success will increase exponentially with his degree. Cheers Adrienne Principal / Executive Director and Chief Code Artist, GNU C-Graph -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [1]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [2]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [3]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph Let's Link Up: [4]https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ References 1. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. http://codeartnow.com/ 3. http://www.abertheid.info/ 4. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: Sacrifices made for Free Software
Nicholas: > I studied for 2 years at SIUe before dropping out > because it became impossible for me to continue and keep my freedom. On the other hand, by dropping out, sure you stop being a victim in the context of your school that I've never heard of, but you're setting yourself up to be more of a victim in society at large where you're spending the rest of your life. Freedom means being able to break chains, or anything you might perceive as a "jail". In order to do that you'll need the right tools for the job. A degree will be one of the most effective instruments in your toolkit. It will not only inform you on strategies for breaking jails, but it will also help you to influence and gain the respect of those you might seek to recruit in your campaign for software freedom. Without the degree you will find that society will automatically erect barriers around opportunities and chain you to underachievement. Your freedom to make choices will be limited. Go back to school. Influence the change from within. Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [1]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [2]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [3]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph Let's Link Up: [4]https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ References 1. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. http://codeartnow.com/ 3. http://www.abertheid.info/ 4. https://www.linkedin.com/in/adriennegt/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: NLNet Funding Proposals for the Libre RISC-V SoC: call for participation
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 7:46 PM Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <[1]l...@lkcl.net> wrote: just a quick followup: we got the funding. Congrats Luke!! All the very best for the project. Assembler used to be a lot of fun.:) As I mentioned, once I'm done with the fundraising I'll be writing a lot of code in Python - but it's all for C-Graph! Cheers Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [2]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [3]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [4]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph References 1. mailto:l...@lkcl.net 2. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 3. http://codeartnow.com/ 4. http://www.abertheid.info/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: One word label for someone who rejects proprietary software
It occurred to me that there isn't really a good one-word way of describing someone who rejects proprietary software on ethical grounds. For example there's "vegan" for people who don't consume animal products on ethical grounds. How about "speerfie"? That's "s" for software and "p" for person tacked on to "free" spelt backward, then "ie" at the end as in "freebie". Or just "peerfie"? Or maybe "freeps" = free software person? :) Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [1]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [2]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [3]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph References 1. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. http://codeartnow.com/ 3. http://www.abertheid.info/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: The Free Software Force is calling for support
The Free Software Force is calling for Support! On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 2:44 PM Ole Aamot <[1]o...@oka.no> wrote: The Free Software Force is in the Source! Who amongst us has the balls And choose to lend them to our cause? Will Rise Up and tear down the walls Intended to subvert our GPL laws? The Force Awakens!! [2]https://fsforce.noblogs.org/ #RiseUp and get "On Pointe"!! [3]https://www.gnu.org/graphics/adrienne/index.html Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [4]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [5]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [6]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph References 1. mailto:o...@oka.no 2. https://fsforce.noblogs.org/ 3. https://www.gnu.org/graphics/adrienne/index.html 4. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 5. http://codeartnow.com/ 6. http://www.abertheid.info/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: The Free Software Force is calling for support
Welcome to the movement Free Software Force! On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 11:59 AM alimiracle <[1]alimira...@riseup.net> wrote: The first Free Software Force announcement is online, both in English and Spanish: Free Software Force [2]https://fsforce.noblogs.org/ have fun and be free I too have explicitly noted in previous posts that " [T]he Free Software Foundation has not broken but maintains the relationship with Software Freedom Conservancy that has promoted the persecution of Richard Stallman", nominating SFC President and FSF Board member Bradley Kuhn "Best Director" for the internet drama "The Backstabber" in the upcoming FSF Resign Awards. #RiseUp, Gravitate to GNU: [3]http://www.codeartnow.com/gallery-1/freedom/gravitating-to-gnu and may the Force be with you! Adrienne G. Thompson Principal and Executive Director, GNU C-Graph -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [4]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [5]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [6]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph References 1. mailto:alimira...@riseup.net 2. https://fsforce.noblogs.org/ 3. http://www.codeartnow.com/gallery-1/freedom/gravitating-to-gnu 4. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 5. http://codeartnow.com/ 6. http://www.abertheid.info/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: FSF Resign Awards: Call for Nominations
Re: nomination for the FSF Resign Awards: For the internet drama "The Backstabber" Bradley M. Kuhn: Best Director Best Open Source advocate Friends, hackers, coders, men, lend me your ears! Rise up to eject backstabbers of Freedom – not praise them; The evil such men do lives after them Ambition should be made of sterner stuff; Oh judgement! Thou art fled to brutish beests But not our GNU, though wilde, will not be tamed By men – he/him they/them who have lost their reason; Who conceal the yoke under Hats of garish colour Red, Who steal upon Freedom, Softly, with Micro vision, Or who, Google-eyed, seek to buy those entirely willing. Who amongst us has the balls And choose to lend them to our cause? Will Rise Up and tear down walls Intended to subvert our GPL laws? #RiseUp and Gravitate to GNU! [1]http://www.codeartnow.com/gallery-1/freedom/gravitating-to-gnu Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [2]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [3]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [4]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph Notes: Inspired by William Shakespeare's "Julius Caesar"; words spoken by Mark Antony: [5]https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/56968/speech-friends-romans-c ountrymen-lend-me-your-ears On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 2:28 PM Adrienne G. Thompson <[6]adriennegayethomp...@gmail.com> wrote: It is my sincere (dis)pleasure to make the following nomination for the Free Software Foundation Resign Awards: For the internet drama "The Backstabber" Bradley M. Kuhn: Best Director Best Open Source advocate Calling on the Free Software community to post your nominations now! #RiseUp and Gravitate to GNU! [7]http://www.codeartnow.com/gallery-1/freedom/gravitating-to-gnu Adrienne G. Thompson Principal and Executive Director, GNU C-Graph References 1. http://www.codeartnow.com/gallery-1/freedom/gravitating-to-gnu 2. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 3. http://codeartnow.com/ 4. http://www.abertheid.info/ 5. https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/56968/speech-friends-romans-countrymen-lend-me-your-ears 6. mailto:adriennegayethomp...@gmail.com 7. http://www.codeartnow.com/gallery-1/freedom/gravitating-to-gnu ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
FSF Resign Awards: Call for Nominations
It is my sincere (dis)pleasure to make the following nomination for the Free Software Foundation Resign Awards: For the internet drama "The Backstabber" Bradley M. Kuhn: Best Director Best Open Source advocate Calling on the Free Software community to post your nominations now! #RiseUp and Gravitate to GNU! [1]http://www.codeartnow.com/gallery-1/freedom/gravitating-to-gnu Adrienne G. Thompson Principal and Executive Director, GNU C-Graph -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [2]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [3]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [4]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph References 1. http://www.codeartnow.com/gallery-1/freedom/gravitating-to-gnu 2. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 3. http://codeartnow.com/ 4. http://www.abertheid.info/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Apologies
'Smee: I still think this campaign against RMS was coordinated (call me a conspiracy nut) and that they are accomplishing some of their goals right now. It was very well coordinated with the help of big money! Thanks Adrienne for sticking up for free speech. You're welcome 'Smee. Have a nice day!! Adrienne On Tue, 2019-09-24 at 11:08 -0700, Aaron Wolf wrote: > Adrienne, that's a valid concern. People shouldn't be walking on > eggshells. However, that's a misreading of the case here. This is > more > like 'Smee realizing on self-reflection that they actually *were* > making > assumptions and not being as considerate as they wish to be. I don't > think this apology was an insincere fear-based one but one in which > it's > a modeling of holding oneself to a high standard. > > Again, you're right in that we live in a context where *reasonable* > discourse gets grotesquely misrepresented and then people self-censor > out of fear. That is a totally valid problem, and we should not > accept > it as okay. > > At the same time, we should work to treat everyone with some > benefit-of-the-doubt and compassion. And there's nothing wrong with > apologizing for not living up to that standard, even if someone's > worst > was *still* better than many people's normal. > > If I write something from a defensive, reactionary mindset, I would > hope > to recognize it and apologize if I failed to check myself before > sending > it. That's independent from the fact that my emotional reactionary > writing might still be more respectful than most people's non- > emotional > postings. > > > On 2019-09-24 10:56 a.m., Adrienne G. Thompson wrote: > >Gee 'Smee: > >Things are getting a little out of hand. So now guys can't have > >reasonable arguments with women without feeling like they're > > being > >"combative"? Are you afraid someone might call you "sexist"? > >I didn't see where you said anything objectionable or > > "combative". > >Adrienne > >On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 12:43 PM 'smee via libreplanet-discuss > ><[1][1]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org> wrote: > > > > I was combative in my language with Deb earlier and would like > > to > > apologize and say I'll do better in the future. > > I assumed bad intentions and acted out of irritation. I'll do > > better > > in > > the future to consider that there are real people with real > > concerns > > and try not to be combative. > > ___ > > libreplanet-discuss mailing list > > [2][2]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org > > [3][3]https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet- > > discus > > s > > > >-- > >Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! > >GNU C-Graph - [4][4]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph > >Code Art Now - [5][5]http://codeartnow.com > >Abertheid Campaign - [6][6]http://www.abertheid.info > >Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph > > > > References > > > >1. mailto:[7]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org > >2. mailto:[8]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org > >3. [9]https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-di > > scuss > >4. [10]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph > >5. [11]http://codeartnow.com/ > >6. [12]http://www.abertheid.info/ > > > > > > ___ > > libreplanet-discuss mailing list > > [13]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org > > [14]https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discu ss > > > > -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [15]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [16]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [17]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph References 1. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org 2. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org 3. https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet- 4. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 5. http:/
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Apologies
Gee 'Smee: Things are getting a little out of hand. So now guys can't have reasonable arguments with women without feeling like they're being "combative"? Are you afraid someone might call you "sexist"? I didn't see where you said anything objectionable or "combative". Adrienne On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 12:43 PM 'smee via libreplanet-discuss <[1]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org> wrote: I was combative in my language with Deb earlier and would like to apologize and say I'll do better in the future. I assumed bad intentions and acted out of irritation. I'll do better in the future to consider that there are real people with real concerns and try not to be combative. ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list [2]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org [3]https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discus s -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [4]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [5]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [6]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph References 1. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org 2. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org 3. https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss 4. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 5. http://codeartnow.com/ 6. http://www.abertheid.info/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Moving Forward
On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 9:11 AM Deb Nicholson <[1]d...@eximiousproductions.com> wrote: The outrage (and demand for new leadership) is coming from real women who have tried to participate in free software and been rebuffed by sexist behavior who felt that perhaps at this moment they might *finally* be heard. I must tell you that I wrote GNU C-Graph at rms' suggestion. I had just written the solutions to an entire book in C followed by my software package "NAILS" in Lisp. RMS saw my passion for electrical engineering, computer science and my complete immersion in writing code to represent concepts in artificial intelligence and engineering mathematics. He has always treated me as an equal. Hackers are inseparable from their humour. It is part of the hacker mindset that makes us tick. RMS is no more sexist that any other man I know - especially in engineering and computer science where sexism abounds. I call out sexism when I see it's necessary. The notion that rms is a misogynist, as claimed by others, is false. How can one person's desire to write code be rebuffed by another's behaviour, sexist or otherwise? Time will show that it was a much, much more than a major "gaffe" by the FSF to call for his resignation based on a lie. There is a price to be paid for this mercenary attack on Free Software and its architect - purportedly executed in the name of "diversity". Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [2]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [3]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [4]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph References 1. mailto:d...@eximiousproductions.com 2. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 3. http://codeartnow.com/ 4. http://www.abertheid.info/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Moving Forward
On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 1:36 AM Félicien Pillot <[1]felic...@gnu.org> wrote: > 2) I am unclear as to the motivation for his resignation. I'd like to > know if he voluntarily resigned or if he was urged or forced to > "voluntarily" resign? Look up the definition of "constructive dismissal". RMS was subjected to undue pressure, psychological attacks, and coercion to force his resignation. The law requires an "employee" status, but the situation with the FSF is analogous. Subversive elements on the board of the FSF have been in play for some time. Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [2]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [3]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [4]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph References 1. mailto:felic...@gnu.org 2. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 3. http://codeartnow.com/ 4. http://www.abertheid.info/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [non-libre] unsubscribe help, too much Freedom de-tox anybody?
For more insight on the subversive infiltration of Free Software by Corporate giants, read Daniel's blog piece on: "Google, Money and Censorship in Free Software Communities" Jul 17, 2019 [1]https://danielpocock.com/google-money-censorship-free-software/ On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 2:59 PM Daniel Pocock <[2]dan...@pocock.pro> wrote: If anybody is sick of all the lynchings and gangster behaviour and simply wants to opt-out of all of it, these are the unsubscribe links for all the lists. #RiseUp Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [3]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [4]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [5]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph References 1. https://danielpocock.com/google-money-censorship-free-software/ 2. mailto:dan...@pocock.pro 3. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 4. http://codeartnow.com/ 5. http://www.abertheid.info/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] well motherfucking done internet. I'm not proud of you at all
On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 7:39 AM Michael Downey <[1]mich...@downey.net> wrote: >Dr. Stallman’s >dismissal. He's not a doctor. Those of us who respectfully so address our Chief GNUisance do so with reference to RMS' many honorary doctorates and professorships: [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman#Honors_and_awards Dr. Stallman's constructive dismissal by those who were entirely willing to get into bed with greedy and subversive corporate interests - is being met with resistance. #RiseUp Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [3]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [4]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [5]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph References 1. mailto:mich...@downey.net 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman#Honors_and_awards 3. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 4. http://codeartnow.com/ 5. http://www.abertheid.info/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] To be FSF member to have a voice? Does anyone listen?
On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 7:39 AM Patrick 'P. J.' McDermott <[1]p...@pehjota.net> wrote: Note however that RMS has asked people to keep guiding the FSF on the right path and to not pressure for him to be president again. RMS would be the first person to caution against slavish "obedience" to anyone - including himself. Is there a sword of Damocles dangling over RMS' head? Have corporate sponsors of the FSF now combined with those who constructed his dismissal to threaten to totally pull the financial plug on FSF and GNU should RMS be reinstated? #RiseUP Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [2]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [3]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [4]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph References 1. mailto:p...@pehjota.net 2. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 3. http://codeartnow.com/ 4. http://www.abertheid.info/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] membership confusion, FSF way forward
On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 6:19 PM Will Hill <[1]will.hillno...@gmail.com> wrote: On Sunday 22 September 2019, Daniel Pocock wrote: > all the 1466 volunteers, associate members and any new volunteers who > joined recently must be given equal voting rights. The next day, Bill Gates would have 20,000 Microsoft employees join as voting members. For the low price of $40,000/month, Bill Gates would own the FSF and I'd vote by dropping my membership. They wouldn't just be Microsoft employees either. All the corporate empires could participate. There would be no need to take down the FSF President in the manner in which they've done. The era of Free Software (as we know it) would be over. Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [2]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [3]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [4]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph References 1. mailto:will.hillno...@gmail.com 2. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 3. http://codeartnow.com/ 4. http://www.abertheid.info/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] To be FSF member to have a voice? Does anyone listen?
The evidence of the media storm has declared RMS' "resignation" the result of undue influence, psychological pressure - and coercion. It is called "constructive dismissal". Look it up. #RiseUp Adrienne On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 9:20 AM Adrienne G. Thompson <[1]adriennegayethomp...@gmail.com> wrote: On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 10:09 AM Miles Fidelman <[2]mfidel...@meetinghouse.net> wrote: I'm a dues-paying member. I never received anything expressing the board's position, or asking for my input ... But to whose voice did they lend an ear when they had to make a vital decision: was it its grass root members’ voice? Let's have a look at the FSF's constitution, its memorandum and articles of association. We need to understand what member's rights are and how far they go towards determining: 1) Whether members have a voice in removing a board member(s) who may have violated FSF policies - e.g. compromising FSF principles governing free software such as: a) Collaboration with corporate entities seeking to undermine the principles that define free software and the GPL; b) Contributing to misrepresentation, making false and defamatory statements intended to damage the standing of another member of the board. 2) Whether rms' removal was in violation of the FSF constitution. Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [3]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [4]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [5]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [6]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [7]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [8]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph References 1. mailto:adriennegayethomp...@gmail.com 2. mailto:mfidel...@meetinghouse.net 3. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 4. http://codeartnow.com/ 5. http://www.abertheid.info/ 6. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 7. http://codeartnow.com/ 8. http://www.abertheid.info/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] membership confusion, FSF way forward
Daniel, It is my opinion too that the membership of the FSF board needs re-evaluation. I'm off to get some rest. Sincerely Adrienne On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 10:50 AM Daniel Pocock <[1]dan...@pocock.pro> wrote: Recent discussions show a lot of confusion about FSF (associate) membership. The FSF publishes[1] copies of the financial statements The 2018 filing[2] shows that FSF has only registered 7 people as voting members and the other 1466 people only registered as volunteers. Why the distinction? Given the scale of the recent problems, a change of leadership is not just about changing the president. The existing board have supported the president through many years. Any of them could have resigned at any time if they didn't agree with his leadership. Therefore, it is my personal view that: 1. all the 1466 volunteers, associate members and any new volunteers who joined recently must be given equal voting rights. 2. the entire board resigns and the entire organization is then engaged in the election of both a new board and president. The actual resignation date could be deferred until LibrePlanet so there is time for reasoned decision making. A new president alone doesn't mean much if the existing board or staff carry on doing different things. It may take time to see just what success the president really has. People may want to know who the president will be and what their platform is before deciding to renew membership or make further donations, it is too early to decide right now. Given the extent to which recent discussions demonstrate misunderstandings about membership status, it doesn't feel correct for the FSF to continue using the term "associate member", as this term and the marketing around it (phrases like "Renew your membership!") appear to be giving people an inaccurate understanding of their status. Regards, Daniel 1. [2]https://www.fsf.org/about/financial 2. [3]https://static.fsf.org/nosvn/financial-statements/Form990-FY2018. pdf ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list [4]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org [5]https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discus s -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [6]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [7]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [8]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph References 1. mailto:dan...@pocock.pro 2. https://www.fsf.org/about/financial 3. https://static.fsf.org/nosvn/financial-statements/Form990-FY2018.pdf 4. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org 5. https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss 6. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 7. http://codeartnow.com/ 8. http://www.abertheid.info/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] To be FSF member to have a voice? Does anyone listen?
On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 10:09 AM Miles Fidelman <[1]mfidel...@meetinghouse.net> wrote: I'm a dues-paying member. I never received anything expressing the board's position, or asking for my input ... But to whose voice did they lend an ear when they had to make a vital decision: was it its grass root members’ voice? Let's have a look at the FSF's constitution, its memorandum and articles of association. We need to understand what member's rights are and how far they go towards determining: 1) Whether members have a voice in removing a board member(s) who may have violated FSF policies - e.g. compromising FSF principles governing free software such as: a) Collaboration with corporate entities seeking to undermine the principles that define free software and the GPL; b) Contributing to misrepresentation, making false and defamatory statements intended to damage the standing of another member of the board. 2) Whether rms' removal was in violation of the FSF constitution. Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [2]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [3]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [4]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph References 1. mailto:mfidel...@meetinghouse.net 2. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 3. http://codeartnow.com/ 4. http://www.abertheid.info/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] FSF should defend RMS and reject his resignation!
On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 3:19 PM Leah Rowe <[1]i...@minifree.org> wrote: Why do I have to rise? I'm too lazy to get up. I'd rather just sit here and paint, or code. Then sit Leah. There maybe tasks that you can do while sitting at your laptop supporting those of us who choose to rise! Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [2]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [3]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [4]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph References 1. mailto:i...@minifree.org 2. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 3. http://codeartnow.com/ 4. http://www.abertheid.info/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] well motherfucking done internet. I'm not proud of you at all
RMS is very much alive. The plan to reinstate him as FSF president would automatically also include one for succession. This is not the time for rms to step aside while big corporations work to devour the principles of Free Software. Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [1]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [2]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [3]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 10:02 PM Caleb Herbert <[4]c...@bluehome.net> wrote: On 09/20/2019 08:21 AM, Adrienne G. Thompson wrote: >No Leah, the way to go would have been to withdraw your membership - >not renew it! We should become or remain members, so we have a voice. It is critical. >We need to formulate a plan, a show of solidarity, addressing the FSF >board with a demand for rms' reinstatement. Let's hear some ideas. >RiseUp!! We need to use this time to remember that RMS will not be here forever. Each one of us needs to take up the torch and follow his example. It is now our turn to take over his work, run the FSF, and find ways of doing everything we need to do on computers with only free software. When Stallman dies, who will stand up and be as diligent as he on JavaScript and other issues we routinely falter on? We need need to. All of us. My first step: Resign from Reddit. -- Caleb Herbert KE0VVT 816-892-9669 [5]https://bluehome.net/csh ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list [6]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org [7]https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discus s References 1. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. http://codeartnow.com/ 3. http://www.abertheid.info/ 4. mailto:c...@bluehome.net 5. https://bluehome.net/csh 6. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org 7. https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?
On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 12:29 PM Will Hill <[1]will.hillno...@gmail.com> wrote: He did not say that. He said the phrase "sexual assault" is ambiguous and misleading, and that prostitution is not equivalent to violent rape. He also argued that it's wrong to define rape and assault by the letter of the law, probably because people should use their morals to guide the law rather than the other way. No, Richard Stallman has been grossly misrepresented. I'm glad he said so. Yes, Richard has been maliciously misrepresented - that is the point of my defending him. I'll pars the actual paragraph on which I commented, look again at rms' own email and make corrections as necessary. This caught me midstream trying to wrap up C-Graph's business plan so forgive me if I was not 100% accurate. Gotta run. Will post later. Adrienne PS: You like fish? RMS is a big fish! Let's give him plenty of support so we can swim with him in less polluted waters. #RiseUp -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [2]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [3]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [4]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph References 1. mailto:will.hillno...@gmail.com 2. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 3. http://codeartnow.com/ 4. http://www.abertheid.info/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] well motherfucking done internet. I'm not proud of you at all
On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 8:13 AM Dmitry Alexandrov <[1]321...@gmail.com> wrote: Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss <[2]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org> wrote: > Instead of responding in solidarity, you all allowed yourselves to be manipulated by a *blatant* smear campaign that took *one* post from him out of context. > The recent bullshit has made me renew my FSF membership, out of support. Everyone should do the same! I’m deeply afraid, that joining FSF out of support _now_ will be understood the other way round — as a sign of support of Dr. Stallman’s dismissal. No Leah, the way to go would have been to withdraw your membership - not renew it! We need to formulate a plan, a show of solidarity, addressing the FSF board with a demand for rms' reinstatement. Let's hear some ideas. RiseUp!! Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [3]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [4]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [5]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph References 1. mailto:321...@gmail.com 2. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org 3. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 4. http://codeartnow.com/ 5. http://www.abertheid.info/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] FSF should defend RMS and reject his resignation!
You can "Rise Up" in a civil manner. That is what you will be doing by engaging the FSF in diplomatic discussion. It is a protest - just a more civil one than the twitter campaign that lies in waiting should you fail to do anything at all. We need formal assurance from the FSF that RMS remains our Chief GNUisance! Go organise - i.e #RiseUp !! Adrienne On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 5:05 PM Patrick 'P. J.' McDermott <[1]p...@pehjota.net> wrote: Thank you Aaron for trying to push the conversation in a more civil and productive direction. I regret not emphasizing this more strongly in an earlier message. On 2019-09-19 at 12:29, Aaron Wolf wrote: > However, the solution is not to just take the opposing partisan side in > the argument. That simply plays into the same narrative set up by the > mob in the first place. > > One good answer is to actually have a more reasoned, open, (perhaps) > facilitated, discussion about what to do. All I can add to all of these well-said points is an expansion of the above advice. When you see others committing what you see as injustice, be better than them. Don't stoop to their level. Respond to emotion with reason. Please don't "#RiseUp" or anything so emotional. The resignation is done, like it or not. Our two biggest threats now are: 1. That the free software community is now split into warring factions, and 2. That some will now take a logical leap from the misunderstandings to accuse the free software community of "defending Epstein" and such. Let's focus on solving what we can. -- Patrick "P. J." McDermott: [2]http://www.pehjota.net/ Lead Developer, ProteanOS: [3]http://www.proteanos.com/ Founder and CEO, Libiquity: [4]http://www.libiquity.com/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list [5]libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org [6]https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discus s -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [7]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [8]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [9]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph References 1. mailto:p...@pehjota.net 2. http://www.pehjota.net/ 3. http://www.proteanos.com/ 4. http://www.libiquity.com/ 5. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org 6. https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss 7. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 8. http://codeartnow.com/ 9. http://www.abertheid.info/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] FSF should defend RMS and reject his resignation!
The call to go to Twitter with a hashtag is exactly the opposite of what I am suggesting. This seems like having a protest march before even an initial attempt to negotiate and work on diplomacy in the first place. RMS' should be reinstated immediately as FSF President. Failing that the GNU community needs to hear directly, formally, and in writing from the FSF that rms remains head of GNU. In the event that he does not return as President, I also propose rms be given a new title - Chief Technology Innovation Officer (CTIO) or Chief Technology Officer (CTO) to underscore his position of responsibility in respect of GNU. Please go ahead and organise groups of GNU maintainers to devise an approach to the FSF for your diplomatic intervention. You need to act on this immediately. Good luck! Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [1]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [2]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [3]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph References 1. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. http://codeartnow.com/ 3. http://www.abertheid.info/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] FSF should defend RMS and reject his resignation!
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 2:30 PM Aaron Wolf <[1]wolft...@riseup.net> wrote: I agree that the call-out and cancel culture and mob justice is dangerous and often misguided. ... One good answer is to actually have a more reasoned, open, (perhaps) facilitated, discussion about what to do. That is the point of the #RiseUp campaign. So organise yourselves and intervene NOW!!! The FSF has to survive in this world, ... Martyrdom for the whole org may not be the best tactic for the mission. We also don't want to send the signal that we can be bullied and will always give in to mob vigilante justice. Only the FSF appears to be contemplating martyrdom. We are sending a message that the Free Software Movement will not be bullied. The GNU Project - with its founder - will keep moving forward. Go to Twitter and elsewhere to #RiseUP !! Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [2]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [3]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [4]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph References 1. mailto:wolft...@riseup.net 2. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 3. http://codeartnow.com/ 4. http://www.abertheid.info/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] FSF should defend RMS and reject his resignation!
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 2:09 PM al3xu5 / dotcommon <[1]dotcom...@autistici.org> wrote: ... Please, those who think like me, make your voice heard! Rise Up!! Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [2]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [3]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [4]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph References 1. mailto:dotcom...@autistici.org 2. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 3. http://codeartnow.com/ 4. http://www.abertheid.info/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?
rms: On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 6:52 AM A. Mani <[1]a.mani@gmail.com> wrote: It will also help if you address points ( about you) in the geekfeminism wikia and elsewhere. Please work on a detailed article/response. If you do decide to do this please have a few eyeballs read it and make suggestions before it goes public. Your proof readers should include your trusted friends, media consultants, and your attorney. Take your time. Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [2]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [3]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [4]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph References 1. mailto:a.mani@gmail.com 2. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 3. http://codeartnow.com/ 4. http://www.abertheid.info/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?
Leah, women (and LGBT people, and black people etc) are routinely descriminated against, and less likely to get involved in tech. we need to spend more effort bringing such people into the movement. since you know, they actually form at least half the planet and have the same intelligence/potential. I agree. At the same time while making sure to give minorities opportunities, let them know that the whole purpose is to give them a chance to show that they are equally capable. Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [1]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [2]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [3]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph References 1. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 2. http://codeartnow.com/ 3. http://www.abertheid.info/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?
On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 7:59 PM Leah Rowe <[1]i...@minifree.org> wrote: meritocracy is silly in terms of advancing equality, because it implies an equal playing field - nothing is further from the truth If you have the choice between a more qualified male candidate and less qualified female candidate, hire the female candidate - and train/educate her. it's important. I was referring more to talent than "qualifications". And BTW, I'm black, female (cis), and from the Third World (Jamaica). Lickkle More <[2]https://jamaicanpatwah.com/term/Lickkle-more/1032#.XYGEPChKiM8> Adrienne Author and Inventor, GNU C-Graph -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [3]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [4]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [5]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph References 1. mailto:i...@minifree.org 2. https://jamaicanpatwah.com/term/Lickkle-more/1032#.XYGEPChKiM8 3. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 4. http://codeartnow.com/ 5. http://www.abertheid.info/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?
On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 12:04 PM Ole Aamot <[1]ole.aa...@gmail.com> wrote: Spot on with the poem, Adrienne. Let's create a good and welcoming Libreplanet 2020 for everyone. d:-) GNU C-Graph is cool! Thank you Ole!! Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [2]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [3]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [4]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph References 1. mailto:ole.aa...@gmail.com 2. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 3. http://codeartnow.com/ 4. http://www.abertheid.info/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?
Quiliro, I see you're at [1]riseup.net! Your message has made Richard Stallman, an icon to human rights, resign as president of the board of directors and as president of the FSF. As for me, I will stop preferring women for positions on free software technical areas. I think that they will earn them if they deserve such positions. Affirmative action is a noble concept, but sometimes adopting the policy just doesn't make sense. You always need the very best for technical positions - which should accordingly be earned on merit. I doubt that I will be "preferring women" for technical positions at GNU C-Graph! This whole business smells like a set-up. I've noted the number of people who rushed to distance themselves from rms, some of whom he might once have considered friends. RMS will rise again in the blink of an eye! You may write me down in history With your bitter, twisted lies, You may trod me in the very dirt But still, like dust, I'll rise. You may shoot me with your words, You may cut me with your eyes, You may kill me with your hatefulness, But still, like air, I’ll rise. Just like moons and like suns, With the certainty of tides, Just like hopes springing high, Still I'll rise. From "Still I Rise" by Maya Angelou Adrienne G. Thompson Author and Inventor, GNU C-Graph She/Her -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - [2]http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - [3]http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - [4]http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph References 1. http://riseup.net/ 2. http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph 3. http://codeartnow.com/ 4. http://www.abertheid.info/ ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?
On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 4:06 PM Patrick 'P. J.' McDermott wrote: > I'm saddened to see the community rush to corners and tear itself apart > over this. I really wish that either Stallman would not have even > touched such a personal and controversial subject or that his words > would not have been so thoroughly misunderstood by the media and others. > Part of rms' problem is that he's way too busy and doesn't delegate enough. I believe that rms simply didn't think before addressing the Minsky-Epstein issue. Let's give him some support. Adrienne Author and Inventor, GNU C-Graph -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] No, Stallman isn't "nuts" nor does he deserve less freedom of speech
On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 7:54 PM J.B. Nicholson wrote: > Adrienne G. Thompson wrote: > > The record on Richard Stallman underscores that he is driven by ethical > > sensibilities. He's not about to approve of rape anytime soon. So let's > > just tell rms to shut up about the Epstein matter, not to attempt to > > defend his idols (some of which I, *personally*, know are not worth > > defending) and to get a female FSF colleague to censor all his comments > > pertaining to women before these comments go public. > > ... After all, for all you know he could select a woman who doesn't agree > with your take > and you'll have nowhere to go because he met your sexist and identity > politics-driven request. > Just the act of getting a woman to vet his communications would automatically insulate rms from some of the criticism. RMS is smart enough to know that the person he would choose should have a track record of acceptable advocacy on women's issues. Your reference below to rms' apology: > Through personal conversations in recent years ... I > am grateful for the conversations that enabled me to understand why. suggests that rms already knows he would benefit from discussions about these issues with female colleagues. > You could understand that he too gets freedom of speech to say things you > don't agree with > Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences. Leaders have certain responsibilities in respect of their constituencies. Trump's references to Mexicans as rapists and white supremacists as "very fine people", for example, only served to demean the office of the Presidency of the United States. > His comments across some posts to his personal blog make me think I'm > getting a poorly-explained half story from others on this topic. > Considering what he wrote in > > https://stallman.org/archives/2019-jul-oct.html#14_September_2019_(Statements_about_Epstein) > > > Headlines say that I defended Epstein. Nothing could be further from the > > truth. I've called him a "serial rapist" > > I'm sorry for that hurt. I wish I could have prevented the > > misunderstanding. > > https://stallman.org/archives/2019-jul-oct.html#14_September_2019_(Sex_between_an_adult_and_a_child_is_wrong) > > > Through personal conversations in recent years ... I > > am grateful for the conversations that enabled me to understand why. > > > https://stallman.org/archives/2019-jul-oct.html#13_September_2019_(Epstein_donations) > > > > Media Lab Director Joi Ito confessed that he had secretly accepted > > donations from Epstein after MIT had decided not to do so. > > > > He also accepted funds for some personal activities of his own. > > > > That dishonesty, and conflict of interest, make his resignation > > obligatory. > > > > as well as other posts on that same webpage, I see a consistent objection > to rape regardless of the age of the victim, and I see public contrition > for changing a view he held which he now views as wrong. > I'm glad you reposted the latter comments from rms. Others on this list can benefit from his correction of the record. > Those who choose to conflate Stallman's views with those of the FSF or the > GNU Project seem to me to be either making a mistake in that conflation or > be opportunistic (possibly virtue signaling). > RMS is not only president of the FSF, he is leader of the Free Software Movement. He has responsibilities. We should help him to recognise those responsibilities and protect him from attack. Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?
On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 3:45 PM Thomas Lord wrote: > I wanted to express my strong agreement with this, from Adrienne G. > Thompson, part very strongly: > > "The fact that a young woman might have presented herself as "willing" > does not absolve the alleged offender of rape if he knew - or in the case > of someone of Minsky's stature where it would be inferred that he "had a > duty to know" - that she was underage." > > I would also say that beyond any question of law, men trying to raise > funds and socially network, who find themselves at a lavish, high-money > event, surrounded by women significantly below their age and acting in > these highly sexualized ways ought to be enough to stop those men from > participating further. I believe the culture at MIT (and Stanford), and > the individual men, are rightly due lots of criticism and perhaps in some > cases prosecution. > > So, thanks Adrienne for opening that line of discussion. > And thank you Thomas Lord. Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?
Typo: > ... not to attempt to defend his idols (some of *whom *I, *personally*, > know are not worth defending) and to get a female FSF colleague to censor > all his comments pertaining to women before these comments go public. > - Yes, I tend do regard men who are not worth defending as "things" hence the which/whom schism. ;-) Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Is Stallman nuts?
On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 1:38 PM Thomas Lord wrote: > Remarkably, in order to make their allegations against Stallman, both > Selam G. and Edward Ongweso Jr. must speak untruthfully about what > Stallman wrote. > Contrary to Stallman's comment that "the word 'assaulting' presumes that he applied force or violence", force or violence is not necessary to constitute rape or "assault". Stallman is not a lawyer. The fact that a young woman might have presented herself as "willing" does not absolve the *alleged *offender of rape if he knew - or in the case of someone of Minsky's stature where it would be inferred that he "had a duty to know" - that she was underage. Hackers are known to be socially inept. Their humour can often be crude, off-colour and - like the majority of men in the world - totally sexist (I'm convinced that many of the men I know have their balls in their brains:-) ). The record on Richard Stallman underscores that he is driven by ethical sensibilities. He's not about to approve of rape anytime soon. So let's just tell rms to shut up about the Epstein matter, not to attempt to defend his idols (some of which I, *personally*, know are not worth defending) and to get a female FSF colleague to censor all his comments pertaining to women before these comments go public. Adrienne She/her -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
Re: [libreplanet-discuss] libreplanet-discuss Digest, Vol 103, Issue 1
> The FSF has a well known name associated with a distinctive philosophy. > Whether people agree with that philosophy or not, they usually know what > FSF believes in. That is the power of a brand. > > When people see the name FSFE, they often believe it is a subsidiary or > group working within the FSF. ... > > FSFE leadership have sometimes diverged from FSF philosophy > FSF people have also produced vast amounts of code (the GNU Project) and > some donors appear to be contributing funds to FSFE in gratitude for > that or in the belief they are supporting that... > > In fact, FSFE was set up as a completely independent > organization with distinct membership and management and therefore a > different president. > You are right in that the FSF has been far too generous. An organization that is completely independent and that diverges from FSF philosophy should have not just a different president - but a different name. Your post may have outlined a case of infringement. Where an organization accepts money knowing that the donor intends that the funds should be for the benefit of another - the acceptance and use of that money may be fraud. agt -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN! GNU C-Graph - http://www.gnu.org/software/c-graph Code Art Now - http://codeartnow.com Abertheid Campaign - http://www.abertheid.info Follow me on Twitter @AdrienneGT @GNUcgraph ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
