[LIB] Win 2000 on CT100

2002-03-01 Thread George Derby

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 08:17:52 -
From: George Derby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Win 2000 on CT100

Why not try XP - works perfectly sound and all

George




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FAQ TIME! (was: Re: [LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive?)

2002-03-01 Thread Tom Stangl, VFAQman

Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 02:15:54 -0800
From: Tom Stangl, VFAQman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FAQ TIME! (was: Re: [LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive?)

This has been covered TONS of times in the Archives.

Tim, I really suggest you read through the Archives before rehashing questions
that have been covered s many times before.

Also, go here - http://www.silverace.com/libretto/
Read it all.  It will really help, it helped me in the beginning.

But to answer your question, 9.5mm drives fit FINE in the 50/70 and 100/110, you
just have to remove some small spacers from inside the machine, or you might
stress the mb and break the RAM solder joints free.


I see that:
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I am willing to host an HTML FAQ with links to useful pages, but I don't have
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Then again, if someone has already built a really good links page, we need it
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Matthew Hanson wrote:

 Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 09:57:26 +
 From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive?

 Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 07:48:51 +
 From: T i m [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Hi all,
 
 I just had a quick look around some suppliers on the net and all the 2
 1/2 drives seem to be 9.5.. at the thinnest?
 
 What should I look for (assuming we resolve the Will a 9.5mm drive
 damage a 50CT or not Q)

 An awful lot of folks on the list have stuffed 20GB HDDs in their old Libbys
 recently, including me.  It'd be interesting to hear if anyone has had any
 problems.  People have been doing this for a few years now too.  I'll be
 interested to read Pres's comments on his failures.

 Matt

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Re: [LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive?

2002-03-01 Thread Raymond

Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 20:37:52 +0800
From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive?

At 11:55 PM 28/02/2002 -0800, you wrote:
Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 07:48:51 +
From: T i m [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: So who makes an 8.4mm drive?

Hi all,

I just had a quick look around some suppliers on the net and all the 2
1/2 drives seem to be 9.5.. at the thinnest?

What should I look for (assuming we resolve the Will a 9.5mm drive
damage a 50CT or not Q)

Well I'm using a Fujitsu 20 gig drive ... it was in my L50, now its in my L100, its 
nice and quiet and its quite a bit faster than the stock hard drive which does make 
quite a difference given the amount of paging that happens. Of course, I can't compare 
it to any other similar drive ... round here you can only get Fujitsu drives (IBM 
laptop hard drives haven't been available for months).

- Raymond

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Re: [LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive?

2002-03-01 Thread Raymond

Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 20:41:10 +0800
From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive?

At 02:05 AM 1/03/2002 -0800, you wrote:
Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 09:57:26 +
From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive?

Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 07:48:51 +
From: T i m [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi all,

I just had a quick look around some suppliers on the net and all the 2
1/2 drives seem to be 9.5.. at the thinnest?

What should I look for (assuming we resolve the Will a 9.5mm drive
damage a 50CT or not Q)

An awful lot of folks on the list have stuffed 20GB HDDs in their old Libbys 
recently, including me.  It'd be interesting to hear if anyone has had any problems.  
People have been doing this for a few years now too.  I'll be interested to read 
Pres's comments on his failures.

Certainly I can't see how you could cause damange in an L100 with a 9.5mm hard drive 
given that the cavity (with the spacers removed) is AT LEAST 10mm (I can wobble my 
9.5mm hard drive up and down in there, I'm considering putting some spacers back in so 
I don't stress the connector at the other end). As for my L50, it was a nice fit ... I 
could hold the hard drive at the opening and let go and it'll slide down under its own 
weight until it hit that metal pressure contact (designed to give good metal to metal 
contact for grounding the hard drive). Then all it needed was a gentle tap to hit the 
hdd connector and a firm push to seat the connector.

The only problem I can think of is if you don't take the motherboard out to remove the 
spacers ... if so its highly likely you'd miss the spacers right at the back ... if 
you forget those (a blue one and a clear one) then you'll have problems. I took the 
motherboard out and pulled the black plastic thing all off, cleaned it all out then 
put the black plastic thing back in to make sure I'd removed all the spacers.

Hope this helps!

- Raymond

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Re: [LIB]20GB install experience..

2002-03-01 Thread Raymond

Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 20:43:47 +0800
From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB]20GB install experience..

At 02:55 AM 1/03/2002 -0800, you wrote:
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 10:44:49 +
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anke Otto)
Subject: Re: [LIB]20GB install experience..


...
   I now have a problem setting up a 20GB disk in my Portege...
   This is a new disk, unformated etc.
   I can get my CD drive recognised in DOS, but it causes a
   conflict with the PCMCIA floppy drive I am using at IRQ 24..
   which then leaves the floppy inaccessible.. so I thought, OK,
   lets install WIN95 on the hard disk from floppy only.. after
   lots of disk swapping this was achieved,
but I now can't use my full win98se cd to update the darn
   thing.. Win98se complains that there is already an operating
   system installed and I need the upgrade
   software to do what I want to do.. does anybody know a way
   around this,  other than starting from scratch with reformating
the disk,
   and loading Win98se from a different computer, or buying a
   separate upgrade CD?

I'd format clean given that upgrading on a laptop is asking for trouble (in fact 
upgrading on ANY computer that isn't 100% clean is asking for trouble). I'd also get 
one of those hard drive converters to let you put the hard drive into a desktop. 
Partition the hard drive IN THE LAPTOP to make sure any quirks (such as hibernation) 
are taken care of (the newer Toshibas actually hibernate into a file anyway so that 
shouldn't matter) then put it into a desktop to copy all the install files and drivers 
across ... then back into the laptop and do the whole install from the hard drive. A 
LOT easier than stuffing around with trying to get this and that working ...


- Raymond

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[LIB] additional memory

2002-03-01 Thread W.E. Sisson

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 07:58:31 -0500
From: W.E. Sisson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: additional memory

Hello, Friends,

I have 2000 Pro installed on my L100 and am quite happy with it   Now how
and where do I install additional memory?

Wally




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Re: [LIB] additional memory

2002-03-01 Thread Leonardo Armesto

Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 21:58:25 -0300
From: Leonardo Armesto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] additional memory

How do you install this OS ?? Over Win98(with a CD drive) or Booting with a
CD drive..???
Thanks.

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Subject: [LIB] additional memory


 Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 07:58:31 -0500
 From: W.E. Sisson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: additional memory

 Hello, Friends,

 I have 2000 Pro installed on my L100 and am quite happy with it   Now how
 and where do I install additional memory?

 Wally




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Re: [LIB] additional memory

2002-03-01 Thread Raymond

Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 21:46:11 +0800
From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] additional memory

At 05:05 AM 1/03/2002 -0800, you wrote:
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 07:58:31 -0500
From: W.E. Sisson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: additional memory

Hello, Friends,

I have 2000 Pro installed on my L100 and am quite happy with it   Now how
and where do I install additional memory?

Memory installs in the slot under the keyboard on the left hand side (remove the piece 
of trim to the rear of the keyboard and flip the keyboard up to find it). Dell was 
selling additional 32 meg modules cheap a few weeks ago, the archive should have 
details.

Hope this helps!

- Raymond

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Re: [LIB] Now hibernation under win2k ?

2002-03-01 Thread Jon C

Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 14:40:34 +
From: Jon C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Now hibernation under win2k ?

Hi Konrad

I've got a L110 running Win2k SP2 and the Win2k hibernation works fine 
with my libby...

As far as I know, the Toshiba hibernation is disabled by Win2k's ACPI.  
Also the Win2k hibernation data is stored in a 64mb file on your Windows 
drive rather than at the end of the disk Toshiba's hibernation puts it.

Jon 

 Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 08:35:05 -0600
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Now hibernation under win2k ?

 So, I upgraded to win2k SP2, still had my original problem with 
cpuinf32.
 Fixed that and now I noticed that hibernation does not work properly 
under
 win2k Namely, when hibernating, win2k hibernation takes over 
instead of
 the Toshiba hibernation (the disk saving picture thing). Also, when 
waking
 up from hibernation, it never makes it, just sits there and then 
suggests to
 discard hibernation data and restart.
 I would liek to fix this, works otherwise quite well. If not, I have a 
disk
 image of my 98 install and might revert to that. Does anyine have the
 Toshiba hibernation working properly under win2k ?

 Thanks

 Konrad Szwab, EE
 Systems Engineer / Network Administrator
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[LIB] Getting a 800x480 screen under X

2002-03-01 Thread Raymond

Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 22:51:51 +0800
From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Getting a 800x480 screen under X

Hi all!

OK I know we've done this topic before but I can't seem to find anything that 
addresses this problem ...

I'm trying to get Red Hat 6.2 working on my L100 ... I'm having one hellava time 
trying to get X to recognise the 800x480 screen.

The following lines exist in my XF86Config file (with a pile of stuff in and around 
them):
==
HorizSync   30 - 64
VertRefresh 50 - 100
...
#Modeline 800x480 40 800  864  928 1088   480  481  484  509  +hsync
#Ya I tried the one above too with no joy
Modeline 800x480 36 800  824  896  1024  480  491  493  525
Modeline 640x400 25.175 640  664  760  800   400  409  411  450
Modeline 640x480 25.175 640  664  760  800   480  491  493  525
ModeLine 800x600 36 800  824  896 1024   600  601  603  625
Modeline 1024x76844.9  1024 1048 1208 1264   768  776  784  817 Interlace
...
Section Device
Identifier  Neomagic Corporation|NM2160 [MagicGraph 128XD]
VendorName  Unknown
BoardName   Unknown
#Option overrideValidateMode  true
#Somehow X resents the line above ... it sounded promising as a fix :-(
EndSection
...
Section Screen
Driver  svga
# Use Device Generic VGA for Standard VGA 320x200x256
#Device  Generic VGA
Device  Neomagic Corporation|NM2160 [MagicGraph 128XD]
Monitor My Monitor
Subsection Display
Depth   16
Modes   800x480
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection
==
Unfortunately, I keep erroring out with a 'No valid modes found.' error. In the 
traceback, I can see it say:

SVGA: NM2160: Removing mode (800x480) that won't display properly on LCD
SVGA: NM2160: Removing mode (640x480) that won't display properly on LCD
... and so on

which is a little absurd ... anyone got any ideas on how to resolve this problem? I 
can get it *working* at 640x480 but for some silly reason, it decides to stretch to 
fit horizontally which gives really weird pixels plus I can't scroll to see whats in 
the bottom 1/3 of the desktop!

I'm not sure exactly which version of X I'm running but its whatever comes standard 
with Red Hat 6.2 ...


- Raymond

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Re: [LIB] additional memory

2002-03-01 Thread Lawrence Young

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 10:12:57 -0500
From: Lawrence Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] additional memory

Just copy the setup files over to the Lib HDD and run setup there.

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From: Leonardo Armesto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: [LIB] additional memory


 Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 21:58:25 -0300
 From: Leonardo Armesto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] additional memory

 How do you install this OS ?? Over Win98(with a CD drive) or Booting with
a
 CD drive..???
 Thanks.

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 From: W.E. Sisson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 10:05 AM
 Subject: [LIB] additional memory


  Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 07:58:31 -0500
  From: W.E. Sisson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: additional memory
 
  Hello, Friends,
 
  I have 2000 Pro installed on my L100 and am quite happy with it   Now
how
  and where do I install additional memory?
 
  Wally
 
 
 
 
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Re: [LIB] Best VFM drive for my 50CT please?

2002-03-01 Thread Pres Waterman

Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 12:12:00 -0500
From: Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Best VFM drive for my 50CT please?

  
  Get an 8.45mm HDD and call it a day 
 
 You removed those spacers and it still failed? I removed mine and the HDD
 is practically a drop-in fit ... no pressure on the motherboard at all.

 Maybe you've responded in a post I haven't gotten to, but I'll reply here
 anyway.

 Yeah Pres... I didn't realize anyone had had problems with dropping a
9.5mm
 drive into the L50s or L70s.  You say above that the L50s were damaged by
 HDD insertion.  This implies to me that during the process of inserting
 and/or removing the drives, you damaged components on the the MB.  I was
 always under the impression that as long as the spacers were taken out,
that
 there would be no physical contact or heat problem.

But that's not the case. Removing the spacers is a help, but not a cure.

I did it, I ruined it, that's that.

Thanks

Pres Waterman W2PW
c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc.
Long Island Ford and Kia dealer

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Re: [LIB]20GB install experience..

2002-03-01 Thread Pres Waterman

Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 12:28:39 -0500
From: Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB]20GB install experience..

 
I now have a problem setting up a 20GB disk in my Portege...
This is a new disk, unformated etc.
I can get my CD drive recognised in DOS, but it causes a
conflict with the PCMCIA floppy drive I am using at IRQ 24..
\

Uh, did you say IRQ24?

Thanks

Pres Waterman W2PW
c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc.
Long Island Ford and Kia dealer

GO BILLS!




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Re: [LIB]20GB install experience..

2002-03-01 Thread Pres Waterman

Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 14:45:35 -0500
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Subject: Re: [LIB]20GB install experience..

IRQ 24..
 
 
Uh, did you say IRQ24?
 
Yep - that is what the error complains about before I am unable
 to access the FDD any longer..
.. but the CD installer says its on IRQ 10.. go figure...??


Gee, I have never heard of an IRQ higher than 15...

Thanks

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Re: [LIB] REX Pro-5 $28.50 retail boxed

2002-03-01 Thread capese

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 21:46:33 -
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What I ment by $19 was $28.50 for the RexPro and $19 postage from the USA
not a bad deal at $48. which I guess will be about £35.  There seemed to be
a desire from other Libbers to buy one but they seemed confused as how to
order one from the USA. Log on to  http://www.compgeeks.com/  site and
register as a customer then press add to basket and the order  is done!!
Not dificult realy.
I often order things from the states and find with ordinary US mail it takes
about 5-6 days to arrive so never bother with the high cost of FedEx which
is about double, and before you say it my credit card covers me for items
that do not arrive not that it as ever happened.  I have been after a REXPro
for a while and they seem to be about £50 for a used one!!
http://www.compgeeks.com/

Ed


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Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: [LIB] REX Pro-5 $28.50 retail boxed


 Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 06:41:38 +
 From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] REX Pro-5 $28.50 retail boxed

 Ed,

 Was that $19 deal a one day special?  I don't see anywhere on the site
where
 it's offered at that price.

 Matt


 Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 01:43:51 -
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 try on line ordering, 19 dollars, mine is on the way!!
 
 Ed
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   Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 12:03:06 -0800 (PST)
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   Subject: REX Pro-5 $28.50 retail boxed
   
   The PDA in retail box for $28.50:
   http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=REX-PRO5
  
   Any volunteers to purchase one of these and post it to the UK? I have
no
   idea how to pay for it yet but something can be worked out :)
  
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Re: [LIB] DOS CS drivers for HP M820E

2002-03-01 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 22:01:41 +
From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] DOS CS drivers for HP M820E

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 11:46:26 -0800 (PST)
From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Have you taken these files offline?  I was going to try setting them up 
on my L70 with this HP M820E I picked up.  

   http://160.87.24.214/hpm820e2.zip depending on how my PC goes up and 
down.

   http://160.87.24.214/cardwizard.zip 17MB for various other card  socket 
driver versions if the drivers which work for my L110 don't work with the 
L70 pcmcia socket.

Thanks David.

Am I the first person to attempt to get these DOS drivers working on the 
M820E?  It's a really sweet little drive... set up in a flash... and got me 
burning CDs with no problems.

One thing that I did to resolve the high resource demands of the later 
version of Easy CD Creator that so many people seem to use, was to get a 
copy of the latest version of Nero, v5.5.7.2.  With requirements of a 486 
CPU and 6MB RAM, it's extremely resource friendly.

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RE: [LIB] Help installing OS on 100CT

2002-03-01 Thread phillip ramirez

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 17:28:57 -0600
From: phillip ramirez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [LIB] Help installing OS on 100CT

Anyone have the 50ct disk? I am in need of the restore cd myself.. 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 2:21 AM
To: Libretto
Subject: Re: [LIB] Help installing OS on 100CT


Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 08:14:59
From: neil barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Help installing OS on 100CT


Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 17:40:43 -0500
From: Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Help installing OS on 100CT

 
 I'd be happy to contribute the space.  
  ftp://ftp.taygeta.com/incoming

Then I get FTP Folder error
An error occurred opening that folder on the FTP Server. Make sure you 
have permission to access that folder.
Details:
200 Type set to A
200 PORT command successful.
425 Can't build data connection. Connection timed out.
OK


Interesting. I connected using wsftp at 8am UK time, no problems, as 
anonymous.

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Re: [LIB] Now hibernation under win2k ?

2002-03-01 Thread Raymond

Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 08:44:33 +0800
From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Now hibernation under win2k ?

At 11:15 AM 1/03/2002 -0800, you wrote:
Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 14:44:01 -0500
From: Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Now hibernation under win2k ?

...

How do you diagnose a general a device or program will not allow standby.
Please shut that device or program off and try again ( more or less ) error
message?

I mean, I can tell because it always happens with Street Atlas when tracking
in the serial port, but I would like to know if it can be forced

Well Xin at www.fixup.net (?) has a number of executables that can force 
hibernation/suspend under Win9x/2k ... I had the same problem with the IrDA driver 
holding open the serial port and disabling 'normal' hibernation but I think Xin's 'try 
then force' version does a similar thing as the libby's own 'critical suspend' thingy 
(such as battery low) and forces its way round. He does make a mention that it IS 
risky ... after all, the libby is resisting suspend for a reason ... but I use it 
because often I suspend, shut the lid and put the libby back in its box whilst its 
still in the process of suspending (when I'm in a hurry) and I DON'T want it to still 
be running when its in an enclosed box!


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Re: [LIB]20GB install experience..

2002-03-01 Thread Raymond

Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 08:47:02 +0800
From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB]20GB install experience..

At 11:15 AM 1/03/2002 -0800, you wrote:
Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 14:45:35 -0500
From: Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB]20GB install experience..

IRQ 24..
 
 
Uh, did you say IRQ24?
 
Yep - that is what the error complains about before I am unable
 to access the FDD any longer..
.. but the CD installer says its on IRQ 10.. go figure...??


Gee, I have never heard of an IRQ higher than 15...

My MSI K7T266PRO2-RU (single Athlon) mobo goes up to IRQ19, dual processor boards 
*apparently* can go to IRQ29 ... I can't see how a libby could have that many *real* 
ones though ... hehe

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Re: [LIB] Best VFM drive for my 50CT please?

2002-03-01 Thread David Chien

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 18:01:48 -0800 (PST)
From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Best VFM drive for my 50CT please?

 Wow...  Now I'm really curious as to how many other people on the list have 
 had problems damaging their Libby after putting 9.5mm drives in their early 
 8.5mm HDD systems after removing the spacers!

  At least 3-5 people for sure, and more probably.  Search List archives.

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Re: [LIB] DOS CS drivers for HP M820E

2002-03-01 Thread David Chien

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 18:04:31 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: [LIB] DOS CS drivers for HP M820E

 Am I the first person to attempt to get these DOS drivers working on the 
 M820E?  It's a really sweet little drive... set up in a flash... and got me 

  Nope.  Quite a few lurkers in the list when I first posted a month or two
back.

 One thing that I did to resolve the high resource demands of the later 
 version of Easy CD Creator that so many people seem to use, was to get a 
 copy of the latest version of Nero, v5.5.7.2.  With requirements of a 486 

  Nero is the only thing I use. Dumped EZCD after version 3.5 because 4+ sucked
by forcing you to install IE 5+ for no better reason.  Also, buggy versions and
many problems in the cdrw Usenet newsgroups (www.deja.com for past posts)
suggested to stay away.

  Only other program I'd recommend that works, is light, and runs fast and fine
is NTI CDMaker www.ntius.com  

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Re: [LIB] DOS CS drivers for HP M820E

2002-03-01 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 05:19:09 +
From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] DOS CS drivers for HP M820E

Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 22:01:41 +
From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 11:46:26 -0800 (PST)
From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Have you taken these files offline?  I was going to try setting them up 
on my L70 with this HP M820E I picked up.  

   http://160.87.24.214/hpm820e2.zip depending on how my PC goes up and 
down.

   http://160.87.24.214/cardwizard.zip 17MB for various other card  
socket driver versions if the drivers which work for my L110 don't work 
with the L70 pcmcia socket.

Thanks David.

Am I the first person to attempt to get these DOS drivers working on the 
M820E?  It's a really sweet little drive... set up in a flash... and got me 
burning CDs with no problems.

Hmmm... Responding to my own post... I meant am I the first person with a 
L70 or earlier Lib to try setting this up.

Matt



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version of Easy CD Creator that so many people seem to use, was to get a
copy of the latest version of Nero, v5.5.7.2.  With requirements of a 486
CPU and 6MB RAM, it's extremely resource friendly.

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Re: [LIB] Best VFM drive for my 50CT please?

2002-03-01 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 05:54:02 +
From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Best VFM drive for my 50CT please?

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 18:01:48 -0800 (PST)
From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Wow...  Now I'm really curious as to how many other people on the list 
have had problems damaging their Libby after putting 9.5mm drives in their 
early 8.5mm HDD systems after removing the spacers! 

   At least 3-5 people for sure, and more probably.  Search List archives.

Hmmm  My imagination for coming up with search terms seems laking 
tonight.  Though I saw a couple posts that seemed to indicate that their 
Libs were damaged in the process of inserting and removing the drive.  I'll 
look a bit more, but I wonder what the percentage of successes to failures 
is over all is for people who didn't physically damage anything in the 
process of installing the drive.  I'd guess that the percentage of successes 
must be relatively high.

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Re: [LIB] Best VFM drive for my 50CT please?

2002-03-01 Thread Raymond

Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 14:15:06 +0800
From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Best VFM drive for my 50CT please?

At 10:00 PM 1/03/2002 -0800, you wrote:
Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 05:54:02 +
From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Best VFM drive for my 50CT please?

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 18:01:48 -0800 (PST)
From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Wow...  Now I'm really curious as to how many other people on the list have had 
problems damaging their Libby after putting 9.5mm drives in their early 8.5mm HDD 
systems after removing the spacers! 

  At least 3-5 people for sure, and more probably.  Search List archives.

Hmmm  My imagination for coming up with search terms seems laking tonight.  
Though I saw a couple posts that seemed to indicate that their Libs were damaged in 
the process of inserting and removing the drive.  I'll look a bit more, but I wonder 
what the percentage of successes to failures is over all is for people who didn't 
physically damage anything in the process of installing the drive.  I'd guess that 
the percentage of successes must be relatively high.

Well OK if you're unsure, remove the spacers and try and drop the 9.5mm hard drive in 
(or a block of wood or something thats 9.5mm high). If it slides in real easily then 
it won't put any pressure on the motherboard. If you need to push it then you've 
forgotten to remove a spacer or something ... in which case you might cause damage.

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Re: [LIB] Best VFM drive for my 50CT please?

2002-03-01 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 06:37:12 +
From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Best VFM drive for my 50CT please?

Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 14:15:06 +0800
From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]

At 10:00 PM 1/03/2002 -0800, you wrote:
 Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 05:54:02 +
 From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Best VFM drive for my 50CT please?
 
 Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 18:01:48 -0800 (PST)
 From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Wow...  Now I'm really curious as to how many other people on the list 
have had problems damaging their Libby after putting 9.5mm drives in their 
early 8.5mm HDD systems after removing the spacers! 
 
   At least 3-5 people for sure, and more probably.  Search List 
archives.
 
 Hmmm  My imagination for coming up with search terms seems laking 
tonight.  Though I saw a couple posts that seemed to indicate that their 
Libs were damaged in the process of inserting and removing the drive.  I'll 
look a bit more, but I wonder what the percentage of successes to failures 
is over all is for people who didn't physically damage anything in the 
process of installing the drive.  I'd guess that the percentage of 
successes must be relatively high. 

Well OK if you're unsure, remove the spacers and try and drop the 9.5mm 
hard drive in (or a block of wood or something thats 9.5mm high). If it 
slides in real easily then it won't put any pressure on the motherboard. If 
you need to push it then you've forgotten to remove a spacer or something 
... in which case you might cause damage.

Sorry if I've not made clear what I'm driviung at there.  I installed my 
20GB HDD, and removed the spacers back when Neil said to removed those 
things post haste!

But Pres has said that he had TWO... not one but TWO Libs go belly up  AFTER 
removing those spacers and installing 9.5mm HDDs!  And now David has 
confirmed that a number of other people had the same experience.

Of course I don't know the full circumstances surrounding these other 
failures.  Had they shoved their HDDs into their Libs once or twice BEFORE 
finally removing the spacers?  Were they being operated in extremely hot 
conditions that the larges HDD affectewd somehow?

Still, it seems I've read where a lot of people have bought and installed 
9.5mm HDDs recently.  And I don't remember and posts about problems with 
those.  Though I'm great at missing huge things that are taped to my nose.

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Re: [LIB] Best VFM drive for my 50CT please?

2002-03-01 Thread T i m

Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 07:38:04 +
From: T i m [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Best VFM drive for my 50CT please?

Hi Neil,

neil barnes wrote:

It appears that the mobo is more flexible than is good for it. It also

 appears that the 50 case and the 70 case (which had the fatter drive) are
 *not* identical to each other, although they will work on either machine
 with a little filing around the hole where the expansion port pokes through.

 Neil


[T] So, would I be right in assuming I would be 'safer' finding myself an 8.x mm
drive and fitting that, rather than risking my new 'baby' on a big fat nasty
board cracking 9.5mm monster?

All the best ..

T i m




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Re: [LIB] Mobo damage from thickies or not?

2002-03-01 Thread neil barnes

Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 07:45:38
From: neil barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Mobo damage from thickies or not?


Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 07:31:17 +
From: T i m [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mobo damage from thickies or not?

[T] I know (most) things expand when they get hot but I don't think a 9.5mm
drive would be able to expand enough on it's own to do any damage if the 
fit was
'reasonable' in the first place would it? Of course, the rest of the Libby 
would
be expanding / shrinking at the same time and could make matters worse?

I think the thermal expansion is not likely to be a problem - don't forget 
that a hole in something gets bigger at the same ratio that it would if it 
were full of the original material. Differential expansion is probably 
present but it's parts per hundred thousand.

 
  Still, it seems I've read where a lot of people have bought and 
installed
  9.5mm HDDs recently.  And I don't remember and posts about problems with
  those.

[T] From what I think I have read (and I'm new to all this don't forget), 
one of
the 'problems' seen when / after fitting 'bigger' drives is that some 
components
get ripped off the motherboard and other joints are put under strain and 
then
fatigue / crack / break?


Bits ripped off, no. I suspect people may nt be as careful as they would 
wish to be (didn't I phrase that delicately?) in the actual insertion and 
removal, if they're damaging things when the spacers have been removed.

If you're concerned, remove or loosen the case screws before you change the 
discs rather than leaving the case tight. You're probably best advised to 
take the back off to remove the spacers anyway.

Neil

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Re: [LIB] Best VFM drive for my 50CT please?

2002-03-01 Thread neil barnes

Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 07:50:44
From: neil barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Best VFM drive for my 50CT please?


Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 07:38:04 +
From: T i m [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Best VFM drive for my 50CT please?

Hi Neil,

neil barnes wrote:

It appears that the mobo is more flexible than is good for it. It also

  appears that the 50 case and the 70 case (which had the fatter drive) 
are
  *not* identical to each other, although they will work on either machine
  with a little filing around the hole where the expansion port pokes 
through.
 
  Neil
 

[T] So, would I be right in assuming I would be 'safer' finding myself an 
8.x mm
drive and fitting that, rather than risking my new 'baby' on a big fat 
nasty
board cracking 9.5mm monster?

All the best ..


Tim,

See my other posts today. There is a definite risk in all things :) However, 
provided that the spacers are properly removed - both the clear and the 
blue, I would (and have, frequently) use a default 9.5mm disk.

The 6G I have is a Tosh MK6014MAP and the 20G is an IBM 20 GN Travelstar 
(IIRC - it's in the lib at present so I can't see the writing on the back!)

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Re: FAQ TIME! (was: Re: [LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive?)

2002-03-01 Thread T i m

Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 07:53:53 +
From: T i m [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FAQ TIME! (was: Re: [LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive?)

Hi Tom,

Thanks for the reply ..

Tom Stangl, VFAQman wrote:

 Subject: FAQ TIME! (was: Re: [LIB] So who makes an 8.4mm drive?)

 This has been covered TONS of times in the Archives.

[T] Ok ...



 Tim, I really suggest you read through the Archives before rehashing questions
 that have been covered s many times before.

[T] Well, I sorta have? I have found *some* answers, questions I didn't know I was
going to ask and files etc but, like any 'published' information it's potentially
'out-of-date' the second it hits the page? I read the archives, draw a conclusion,
go off and find the item mentioned only to be told later by the (active list) Oh,
we don't use them any more!? ;-(  I ride a motorcycle and hence subscribe to
several biking lists and we often see the same old what is the best tyre for this
bike etc question popping up. The answers are often different each time as tyres
become obsolete, new models introduced and fashions change. The 'archives' rarely
reflect these particular changes?



 Also, go here - http://www.silverace.com/libretto/
 Read it all.  It will really help, it helped me in the beginning.

[T] Been there, read most of that! (It is a brilliant site though ..) now
*understanding* or *remembering* it are a different matter Tom! ;-)



 But to answer your question, 9.5mm drives fit FINE in the 50/70 and 100/110, you
 just have to remove some small spacers from inside the machine, or you might
 stress the mb and break the RAM solder joints free.

[T] Hmm, there seems (from the list) to be a little undercurrent of folk with dead
Libbys who supposedly removed the spacers etc though Tom ..? (My reserved,
non-risk-taking, Engineer, Virgo nature says buy an 8G 8.Xmm drive...)

All the best and thanks again Tom 

T i m






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Re: [LIB] Best VFM drive for my 50CT please?

2002-03-01 Thread Raymond

Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 15:54:11 +0800
From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Best VFM drive for my 50CT please?

At 11:45 PM 1/03/2002 -0800, you wrote:
Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 07:38:04 +
From: T i m [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Best VFM drive for my 50CT please?

Hi Neil,

neil barnes wrote:

It appears that the mobo is more flexible than is good for it. It also

 appears that the 50 case and the 70 case (which had the fatter drive) are
 *not* identical to each other, although they will work on either machine
 with a little filing around the hole where the expansion port pokes through.

 Neil


[T] So, would I be right in assuming I would be 'safer' finding myself an 8.x mm
drive and fitting that, rather than risking my new 'baby' on a big fat nasty
board cracking 9.5mm monster?

IMHO this is much ado about nothing. If the drive slides in with minimal pressure then 
unless you angle the drive upwards whilst inserting it you can't do any damage. I 
think what is most likely happening with some people's drives is either their drives 
have screws or labels that sit slightly proud of the surface and are lifting the 
drives up (hence putting pressure on the motherboard), the black plastic under the 
motherboard is slightly wrinkled (again pressure on the motherboard) or they've not 
fully cleaned all the gunk from between the lower plastic sheet and the case (eg. the 
residue of the adhesive of the spacers). Also, some people remove the spacers by 
ripping them out through the side of the case and not by taking the mobo out to get to 
them, for them its real easy to miss the spacer at the far end so that may also be a 
factor.

If you remove the plastic sheet on the bottom and the spacers you should be fine. 
You'll definitely be fine if the hard drive is loose enough for a drop fit.

Hope this helps!

- Raymond

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Re: [LIB] Mobo damage from thickies or not?

2002-03-01 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 07:59:48 +
From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Mobo damage from thickies or not?

Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 07:31:17 +
From: T i m [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Were they being operated in extremely hot
  conditions that the larges HDD affectewd somehow?

[T] I know (most) things expand when they get hot but I don't think a 9.5mm 
drive would be able to expand enough on it's own to do any damage if the 
fit was 'reasonable' in the first place would it? Of course, the rest of 
the Libby would be expanding / shrinking at the same time and could make 
matters worse?

I was thinking more in terms of there being a little less room for the 9.5mm 
drive, and if a particular HDD gets hotter than most... could its closer 
proximity to the MB cause overheating problems?  Do HDDs have overheating 
problems?

  Though I'm great at missing huge things that are taped to my nose.

[T] Sometimes we can't see the Wood for the trees though eh?

That can be me! :-)

Matt


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