Re: [LIB] Hello new user and please help
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 09:27:19 - From: Eyetech Technical [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Hello new user and please help From: neil barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Hello new user and please help I've been given a Libretto 100CT machine because it is not working quite correctly. It has both Windows 98 and 2000 installed on a 20Gb drive with 64Mb and is clocked to 266MHz. When I try to boot the machine, some times it works, and others, the screen will do strange things like shift out of place, or the sound will get corrupted. Likeliest option is the RAM expansion. Try removing that first and rebooting with 32M. It seems that it is the RAM. Wow! Something which I would not have expected to fail like that. But this is a fairly common problem? Dont suppose there is a cheap solution to this? Does anyone have a spare 32Mb that they would like to sell to me? I don't suppose that the memory is actually fine and there is something quite wrong with the Libretto's memory interface. The number of bad things happening to me lately, that would not surprise me :( Cya Dave ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
[LIB] Hello new user and please help
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 10:06:00 - From: Eyetech Technical [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hello new user and please help Hi everyone, I've been given a Libretto 100CT machine because it is not working quite correctly. It has both Windows 98 and 2000 installed on a 20Gb drive with 64Mb and is clocked to 266MHz. When I try to boot the machine, some times it works, and others, the screen will do strange things like shift out of place, or the sound will get corrupted. Once in Win 2000 the usual result is a random hang, with nothing working, power button or reset, so I have to remove the AC and battery to reboot the machine. Sometimes I also do not even get the Toshiba BIOS logo. Ive found that if this happens once, the only way to fix it is to remove the hard drive and boot up. The machine reports no drive, then putting it back in and rebooting will allow the machine to work again for perhaps a couple of hours. I am told that this has just started happening the last two days and the machine has been very reliable for a couple of years overclocked. It was dropped the other day, but surely that would just affect the hard drive? Does anyone have any suggestions for what I might try to solve the random hangs? Im tempted to clock it back to the manufacturer's specs, but would prefer trying everything else before opening it up. Thanks for listening. Dave ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Hello new user and please help
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 18:36:56 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Hello new user and please help At 02:11 AM 20/02/2002 -0800, you wrote: Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 10:06:00 - From: Eyetech Technical [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hello new user and please help Hi everyone, ... Does anyone have any suggestions for what I might try to solve the random hangs? Im tempted to clock it back to the manufacturer's specs, but would prefer trying everything else before opening it up. Well if its been dropped ANYTHING could happen. My recommendation is to open the thing up (no it isn't that hard ;-) and make sure you can't see any obvious stresses or fractures in the circuit boards and that all the connectors are solidly plugged together. Make especially sure that the screen connector is secure, if that comes loose it'll cause that sorta problem. You can get to this connector just by flipping the keyboard up, you don't need to fully open the case. If you're feeling brave run the laptop without the case and do the freeze test on the RAM modules ... those seem reasonably delicate and the solder joints under them may have fractured (a freeze test is where you run the libby in a loop with something that tests the RAM then apply freezer spray to half the circuit board then the other half ... one half *should* fail when you blast it, reboot and divide THAT section by half and so-on until you can narrow down an area). Of course, if you were going to do that you'd probably want to try down-clocking first ... chips do deteriorate and its quite possible that the chip doesn't feel up to running at that sorta speed anymore. Hope this helps! - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Hello new user and please help
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 17:22:34 - From: Eyetech Technical [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Hello new user and please help Hi Raymond (and everyone else too!) I removed the 32Mb RAM upgrade board and have found that the system is functioning just fine without it. When it goes back in, the machine will not even post, with or without a hard drie. So I take it that the memory is faulty?!? I can probably buy some more from ebay, but the obvious question would be how the heck did that happen? I take it that the freeze test, cooling it down stops it working instead of CPU's where the cooling is more likely to make it work? I blasted it with some air duster, but that was after it's appearing to be broken. Cheers Dave Does anyone have any suggestions for what I might try to solve the random hangs? Im tempted to clock it back to the manufacturer's specs, but would prefer trying everything else before opening it up. Well if its been dropped ANYTHING could happen. My recommendation is to open the thing up (no it isn't that hard ;-) and make sure you can't see any obvious stresses or fractures in the circuit boards and that all the connectors are solidly plugged together. If you're feeling brave run the laptop without the case and do the freeze test on the RAM modules ... those seem reasonably delicate and the solder joints under them may have fractured (a freeze test is where you run the libby in a loop with something that tests the RAM then apply freezer spray to half the circuit board then the other half ... one half *should* fail when you blast it, reboot and divide THAT section by half and so-on until you can narrow down an area). ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Hello new user and please help
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 18:46:13 From: neil barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Hello new user and please help Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 10:06:00 - From: Eyetech Technical [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hello new user and please help Hi everyone, I've been given a Libretto 100CT machine because it is not working quite correctly. It has both Windows 98 and 2000 installed on a 20Gb drive with 64Mb and is clocked to 266MHz. When I try to boot the machine, some times it works, and others, the screen will do strange things like shift out of place, or the sound will get corrupted. Once in Win 2000 the usual result is a random hang, with nothing working, power button or reset, so I have to remove the AC and battery to reboot the machine. Sometimes I also do not even get the Toshiba BIOS logo. Ive found that if this happens once, the only way to fix it is to remove the hard drive and boot up. The machine reports no drive, then putting it back in and rebooting will allow the machine to work again for perhaps a couple of hours. I am told that this has just started happening the last two days and the machine has been very reliable for a couple of years overclocked. It was dropped the other day, but surely that would just affect the hard drive? Does anyone have any suggestions for what I might try to solve the random hangs? Im tempted to clock it back to the manufacturer's specs, but would prefer trying everything else before opening it up. Likeliest option is the RAM expansion. Try removing that first and rebooting with 32M. _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Hello new user and please help
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 10:48:25 -0800 (PST) From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Hello new user and please help I'd wipe the entire HD under DOS, then start testing from there. If it's been dropped, then I'd double-check to make sure the HD is properly seated, any extra RAM is properly seated, connections are secure, etc. Exploded parts diagram on my site to help. Then, I'd boot to a Doc Memory RAM tester (www.simmtester.com or was it simt...) floppy disk and make sure the RAM is okay. If that passes, you can fdisk and format the HD to make sure that's okay. If that passes, off you go with reinstalling everything. Anything that goes wrong in the above, and you'll have a clue as to what's broken = adorable toshiba libretto The latest news and information for the Toshiba Libretto owner. http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
