Re: [LIB] Will 4.3G into 50CT go please?
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 19:43:25 -0800 (PST) From: David Chien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Will 4.3G into 50CT go please? > Hi David, long time no speak and thanks for the reply. Does this leave *any* > insulation between the HDD and it's surround? Nothing except the black plastic sheeting to prevent shorts. But really, it won't matter much since the drive will be in there tight and it won't be rattling against anything for sure! You'll be more afraid to drop the Libretto than anything else! Anyways, drives do 200G+ shock ratings off, so you'll be fine. I've bumped and bashed my L110 along the way these past couple of years and the 20GB Hitachi is still spinning along. > >I found that even with an overclocked 100Mhz L50/J, I still couldn't > stand > > how slow it was under Win98. > > How far off the mark would a 100 be though David .. if I had the option on a A L100 does only 166Mhz, so you can do the calculation between a 100Mhz L50, the 166Mhz L100 and 233mhz L110. Noticably faster in the L110, somewhat so in the L100 (mostly due to the extra 32MB RAM if you upgrade to 64MB max). Then again, if it's not bothering you, keep the L50 and enjoy! I just happen to be using way too many fast computer desktop PCs and bigger email apps like Mozilla to run off a L50. (Although Opera and lighter email programs are generally fine; well, so is Outlook if the wait is okay...) = adorable toshiba libretto The latest news and information for the Toshiba Libretto owner. http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Will 4.3G into 50CT go please?
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 00:20:54 + From: T i m <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Will 4.3G into 50CT go please? David Chien wrote: > Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 21:12:45 -0800 (PST) > From: David Chien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [LIB] Will 4.3G into 50CT go please? > > 1) L50 & 9.5mm HDs. As recommended, a full disassembly and removal of the > plastic foam spacers beneath the black plastic sheeting in the HD bay is > recommended to prevent the extra mm from delaminating the RAM chip pins from > the motherboard as some have unfortunately encountered. Hi David, long time no speak and thanks for the reply. Does this leave *any* insulation between the HDD and it's surround? > You can try and get > away with a fatter HD in the L50 w/o removing those spacers, but don't come > running for help when the RAM pins delaminate. See Archives for past posts on > this. Indeed .. and hence the question re the status quo on such matters ;-) > > 2) L110 is the 'best' buy IMO and worth the upgrade from a L50, which I had. Ok .. > > It's fast enough and power enough with a 20+GB HD & 64MB that I haven't gotten > ticked off with it and still use it for email, web surfing, etc. It's the > 'nice' Libretto speedwise among these older models. Cool ;-) > > >I found that even with an overclocked 100Mhz L50/J, I still couldn't stand > how slow it was under Win98. Bless it though .. for even trying .. ;-) How far off the mark would a 100 be though David .. if I had the option on a 'known' one? (apart from the disk space the 50 is *bearable* for the number of times I use it?) All the best .. T i m ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Will 4.3G into 50CT go please?
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 21:12:45 -0800 (PST) From: David Chien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Will 4.3G into 50CT go please? 1) L50 & 9.5mm HDs. As recommended, a full disassembly and removal of the plastic foam spacers beneath the black plastic sheeting in the HD bay is recommended to prevent the extra mm from delaminating the RAM chip pins from the motherboard as some have unfortunately encountered. You can try and get away with a fatter HD in the L50 w/o removing those spacers, but don't come running for help when the RAM pins delaminate. See Archives for past posts on this. 2) L110 is the 'best' buy IMO and worth the upgrade from a L50, which I had. It's fast enough and power enough with a 20+GB HD & 64MB that I haven't gotten ticked off with it and still use it for email, web surfing, etc. It's the 'nice' Libretto speedwise among these older models. I found that even with an overclocked 100Mhz L50/J, I still couldn't stand how slow it was under Win98. = adorable toshiba libretto The latest news and information for the Toshiba Libretto owner. http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Will 4.3G into 50CT go please?
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 19:27:49 + From: T i m <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Will 4.3G into 50CT go please? Malcolm Lander wrote: > Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 17:12:58 - > From: "Malcolm Lander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [LIB] Will 4.3G into 50CT go please? > > > Anyone in the UK got a 100/110 for sale ..? > > check out > > http://search.ebay.co.uk/ws/search/SaleSearch?basicsearch=&salocatedincountry=3&ht=1&sosortproperty=1&satitle=toshiba+libretto&from=R9 Hi Malcolm and thanks for the link .. I have been watching a few on eBay but I thought I'd ask here as well .. better the devil you know etc ;-) I'll 'keep em peeled' (as they say) . All the best .. T i m ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Will 4.3G into 50CT go please?
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 17:12:58 - From: "Malcolm Lander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Will 4.3G into 50CT go please? > Anyone in the UK got a 100/110 for sale ..? check out http://search.ebay.co.uk/ws/search/SaleSearch?basicsearch=&salocatedincountry=3&ht=1&sosortproperty=1&satitle=toshiba+libretto&from=R9 rgds Malcolm - Original Message - From: "T i m" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [LIB] Will 4.3G into 50CT go please? > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 21:05:05 +0000 > From: T i m <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [LIB] Will 4.3G into 50CT go please? > > "Fisher, Dave (IBM)" wrote: > > > > > I've had a 9.5mm drive fitted in my Lib50 without issues... a 4.3gb will be > > fine and you'll be able to use all (except for the hiberntation partition at > > the end of course) of the drive normally. Just partition with DOS FDISK and > > Robert is your fathers brother. > > [T] Hi Dave, and thanks very much for all your time and effort on this. ;-) And > Bob *is* actually my uncle! > > > Larger hard drives are fine too... I had a 20Gb in my Lib 50CT. It gets > > trickier due to the hibernation partition being around the 8gb mark but you > > can work around it fairly easily. > > [T] Ok .. > > > > > For example, use DOS FDISK to create a 2Gb boot partition for Win98, then > > create as large a second primary partition as you can. > > > > > > > If you do it this way there is no need for any nasty overlay software and > > it's worked perfectly well on both my old Lib 50 and my new-ish Lib100CT. > > [T] Brilliant. Thanks again .. > > Although .. I *think* I would like something as small as the 50CT (or nearly as > small) with USB and PCMCIA (CardBus would be nice though) that comes (or has the > option on ) 64M RAM and a 4+G drive? > > What I could then do is sell my 50CT and upgrade to something better > (100/110CT)?. > > The *problem* is all the 50/70 kit I've got that won't be any use on something > else? > > All the best .. > > T i m > > > > > > ** > http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list > http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives > > ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- > Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be > addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text > on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe > TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- > Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest > ** > > > ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Will 4.3G into 50CT go please?
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 21:05:05 + From: T i m <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Will 4.3G into 50CT go please? "Fisher, Dave (IBM)" wrote: > > I've had a 9.5mm drive fitted in my Lib50 without issues... a 4.3gb will be > fine and you'll be able to use all (except for the hiberntation partition at > the end of course) of the drive normally. Just partition with DOS FDISK and > Robert is your fathers brother. [T] Hi Dave, and thanks very much for all your time and effort on this. ;-) And Bob *is* actually my uncle! > Larger hard drives are fine too... I had a 20Gb in my Lib 50CT. It gets > trickier due to the hibernation partition being around the 8gb mark but you > can work around it fairly easily. [T] Ok .. > > For example, use DOS FDISK to create a 2Gb boot partition for Win98, then > create as large a second primary partition as you can. > > > If you do it this way there is no need for any nasty overlay software and > it's worked perfectly well on both my old Lib 50 and my new-ish Lib100CT. [T] Brilliant. Thanks again .. Although .. I *think* I would like something as small as the 50CT (or nearly as small) with USB and PCMCIA (CardBus would be nice though) that comes (or has the option on ) 64M RAM and a 4+G drive? What I could then do is sell my 50CT and upgrade to something better (100/110CT)?. The *problem* is all the 50/70 kit I've got that won't be any use on something else? All the best .. T i m Anyone in the UK got a 100/110 for sale ..? ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
RE: [LIB] Will 4.3G into 50CT go please?
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 12:09:26 - From: "Fisher, Dave (IBM)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [LIB] Will 4.3G into 50CT go please? > -Original Message- > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 09:34:30 + > From: T i m <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Will 4.3G into 50CT go please? > So, from my memories of the 'fitting a 9.5mm drive when an 8mm (was it?) > drive should go generated a lot of 'issues' with some saying "go for it > you be fine (with the spacers out etc)" and the "I'll take yer dead 50CT > off you in a couple of months" camps? > Have things changed since the last time I got close to doing the job? Do > we now all agree the risks factor? > Lastly, (and to save me lot's of reading at this point in the job) will > the 50CT 'see' all of a 4.3G and / or, should I want to fit another 20G > in there how easy / usable (overlays etc) would that be please? I've had a 9.5mm drive fitted in my Lib50 without issues... a 4.3gb will be fine and you'll be able to use all (except for the hiberntation partition at the end of course) of the drive normally. Just partition with DOS FDISK and Robert is your fathers brother. Larger hard drives are fine too... I had a 20Gb in my Lib 50CT. It gets trickier due to the hibernation partition being around the 8gb mark but you can work around it fairly easily. For example, use DOS FDISK to create a 2Gb boot partition for Win98, then create as large a second primary partition as you can. This should create a partition upto the beginning of the hibernation partition. So, so far you should have two primary partitions, one around 2gb and the other about 5.6gb or thereabouts. Then reboot and using Partition Magic or similar tool create a 100Mb partition at the end of the second. This is a dummy partition to blank off the area for the hibernation image. Then create an extended partition and as many logical drives as you like within that. Finally delete the dummy partition, it'll only get overwritten when the computer hibernates. You can then load your OS (Win95 or 98, whatever) onto your system and you'll have a blank section of hard drive at the correct location (with a bit added over for spare but no-one seems to know exactly how big it needs to be so better safe than sorry) for hibernation. If you do it this way there is no need for any nasty overlay software and it's worked perfectly well on both my old Lib 50 and my new-ish Lib100CT. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
[LIB] Will 4.3G into 50CT go please?
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 09:34:30 + From: T i m <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Will 4.3G into 50CT go please? Hi All, I've not been playing with my little 50CT recently for a couple of reasons. 1) The new version of my GPS software (Mapsource) was too big to fit on the std drive ;-( 2) I picked up a (whisper ..) Compaq Presario 1260 cheap and was able to run Mapsource on that. However, yesterday I upgraded the 1260 4.3G (Hitachi DK238A-43) to a 20G item I picked up on eBay so the 4.3G is 'spare'? So, from my memories of the 'fitting a 9.5mm drive when an 8mm (was it?) drive should go generated a lot of 'issues' with some saying "go for it you be fine (with the spacers out etc)" and the "I'll take yer dead 50CT off you in a couple of months" camps? Have things changed since the last time I got close to doing the job? Do we now all agree the risks factor? Lastly, (and to save me lot's of reading at this point in the job) will the 50CT 'see' all of a 4.3G and / or, should I want to fit another 20G in there how easy / usable (overlays etc) would that be please? All the best and thanks for your time .. T i m p.s. Before I start opening up the 50CT, how much should I expect to pay for a clean 100/110 (and why would I want one?) ;-) ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
