Re: [LIB] Wheeee!
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 18:15:25 -0500 From: David VanHorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Wh! > >I recall seeing it on a website (it might well have been yours, David!) >about someone cranking up the voltage from 0 and monitoring the current >and behaviour of the libby ... lemme see if I can find it ... That's what I did. I was looking to see where it started pulling current, and where it started charging the battery. I tried it on my L1 too, but it's behaviour is rather complicated. It looks like multiple switchers to me, and possibly a low dropout linear or two as well, judging by the shape of the current as the voltage increases. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Wheeee!
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 06:57:30 +0800 From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Wh! At 09:38 AM 27/02/2002 -0800, you wrote: >Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 12:29:41 -0500 >From: David VanHorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [LIB] Wh! > >At 09:20 AM 2/27/2002 -0800, Pres Waterman wrote: >>Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 12:15:52 -0500 >>From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Re: [LIB] Wh! >> >>> > >>> >The L50/100 power indicator is bi-color... you just don't want to see it >>> >orange! Orange solid or flash indicates an unhappy power input circuit. >>> >Remember: 15.00v is what it wants. >>> >>> Well.. It wants 15V regulated, and I've had it as high as 16V with no >>> problems on a bench supply. >> >> >>Cool. I am only standing on 5 years experience and the service manual. > >I didn't know anyone we knew had one. >I didn't go past 16V because I didnt know the capacitor ratings on the input. 16V >being a common rating, and acceptable for a 15V input. > >It's been a couple years, but somewhere in the archives, should be my original tests >on the L50. I recall seeing it on a website (it might well have been yours, David!) about someone cranking up the voltage from 0 and monitoring the current and behaviour of the libby ... lemme see if I can find it ... - Raymond --- /~\ | | "Does fuzzy logic tickle?"| | ___ | "My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup?" | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Wheeee!
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 06:56:26 +0800 From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Wh! At 09:20 AM 27/02/2002 -0800, you wrote: >Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 12:15:52 -0500 >From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [LIB] Wh! > >> > >> >The L50/100 power indicator is bi-color... you just don't want to see it >> >orange! Orange solid or flash indicates an unhappy power input circuit. >> >Remember: 15.00v is what it wants. >> >> Well.. It wants 15V regulated, and I've had it as high as 16V with no >> problems on a bench supply. > > >Cool. I am only standing on 5 years experience and the service manual. Heh according to the service manual, you can't hot-dock/undock, you should always wear a wrist strap whenever you touch the thing, you're not allowed to plug a libby in without a battery Bah I say! - Raymond --- /~\ | | "Does fuzzy logic tickle?"| | ___ | "My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup?" | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Wheeee!
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 06:48:16 +0800 From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Wh! At 08:00 AM 27/02/2002 -0800, you wrote: >Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 10:55:06 -0500 >From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [LIB] Wh! > >... > >> Ummm ... I'd say they are, for one thing the L50 power LED isn't a >bi-color. The online manual isn't much help ... the power LED has 4 states - >solid green, solid orange, blinking orange and off ... the manual makes no >mention of solid orange. >> > > >The L50/100 power indicator is bi-color... you just don't want to see it >orange! Orange solid or flash indicates an unhappy power input circuit. >Remember: 15.00v is what it wants. Umm ... the power one not the AC one. According to the manual, the power one flashes orange when in standby but makes no mention of solid orange. >> >NOT TRUE, THERE IS AN ACPI PATCH >> >> WHERE?!?!?! > >Tell me you have looked at the http://www.toshiba.com website for drivers >and can't find it. Then I will go look for you. I've looked there and found SOMETHING but it doesn't seem to wanna work ... I've applied the Win95 controls (which adds power saver), applied the Win98 power saver patch but when I go to apply the ACPI patch, it sits there looking for a Win98 UPGRADE CD ... I've got a Win98SE FULL INSTALL CD which it won't accept. Unfortunately, its not a nice 'standard' application ... it doesn't give me a file browser to look for it, it just sits there and tries to be smart and find the CD itself. Having said THAT, I've got a sneaking suspicion that WIn98SE already has ACPI ... is this true? Cheers! - Raymond --- /~\ | | "Does fuzzy logic tickle?"| | ___ | "My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup?" | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Wheeee!
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 11:31:34 -0800 (PST) From: David Chien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Wh! > One thing that did puzzle me somewhat was why even though there is more space > in the L100, its still got those plastic spacers under the hard drive (like > on the L50/70) to accomodate the 8.5mm hard drive ... I had to remove them to > get my 9.5mm 20 gig hard drive to fit. Original models shipped with 9.5mm IBM HDs because Toshiba didn't have any. Later, Toshiba HDs 8.45mm replaced the IBM HDs when they became avail. > This L100 doesn't seem to do the 'write to hard drive during suspend' thingy > (I go start>suspend and it suspends straight away, I know it hasn't written > anything because if I pull all power and the battery then power back on it > fails to recover) ... is that a setting somewhere or is that controlled from > Windows now? I realize in power management you can set it to hibernate on Control Panel -> Power Settings -> Hibernate on power button press vs. shutdown or suspend. (same choices for lid close) Or, control it in the BIOS. > If it does hibernate somewhere, does it shove the hibernation stuff in > exactly the same place as the L50? I left about 120 meg free either side of > 1024 cylinders on my old hard drive, should this be fine for the L100? I do > have EZ-Bios installed and it seems to see all of the drive ... A bit less, but I leave 1010-1040 cylinders on my 30GB HD with EZ-BIOS free after extensive testing with a disk hex editor to find out where the suspend information goes. > hot round here ... I just pulled the hard drive out and it was too hot to > touch! Same here! Happily, it seems to run just happily after months of use with the new 30GB inside. > Regarding batteries, is the extended pack for the L100 the same size as the > standard pack? Whats the capacity and approximate real-use runtime on each? Yes. Believe it comes with just the extended 3-4 hours min; standard would go 2-3 hours I vaguely recall. > Regarding operating system choice, given a choice between Win95OSR2 and > Win98SE, which one would be better to use? Win95OSR2 is faster for the same > RAM and fully supports the Libby's APM stuff but it doesn't have USB support I'm on Win98SE on my L110 and it runs just fine and fast with 64MB RAM and the 30GB HD. Mostly for the USB support since I use all those USB devices, but otherwise, Win95 would be fine as well. > doesn't work on it. Have people got APM working on Win98SE using the L100? > (I'm talking things like PROPER hibernation, going into suspend but saving > HDD contents so it will flip over to hibernation after X minutes, redetecting > devices on resume, etc.). Runs just fine with 98 here with all that. Just install Win98SE, then the Toshiba accessories and control panel downloads from www.csd.toshiba.com and that's it. Goes to sleep automatically just fine, wakes up naturally, just peachy. > Any advice appreciated! (Well OK not ANY but ... meh) Accessories are getting harder to find. www.ebay.com, www.micsol.com and search www.yahoo.com on part #s to find them. Get replacement mouse caps, and anything else you'd want to have around before they go away completely. eg. for me, it's another set of HD drive handles and screws, mouse caps, and keyboard attachment strips (only because I may take the L110 apart someday and break that part). Picked up external docking station and floppy drive as well. = adorable toshiba libretto The latest news and information for the Toshiba Libretto owner. http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Wheeee!
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 18:12:46 From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Wh! >Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 11:48:49 -0500 >From: David VanHorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [LIB] Wh! > > >> >>The L50/100 power indicator is bi-color... you just don't want to see it >>orange! Orange solid or flash indicates an unhappy power input circuit. >>Remember: 15.00v is what it wants. > >Well.. It wants 15V regulated, and I've had it as high as 16V with no >problems on a bench supply. IIRC on the 50/70, flashing orange power light means it's in overheat, and solid orange only comes on when a dodgy battery pack I have gives up in disgust. _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Wheeee!
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 12:29:41 -0500 From: David VanHorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Wh! At 09:20 AM 2/27/2002 -0800, Pres Waterman wrote: >Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 12:15:52 -0500 >From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [LIB] Wh! > > > > > > >The L50/100 power indicator is bi-color... you just don't want to see it > > >orange! Orange solid or flash indicates an unhappy power input circuit. > > >Remember: 15.00v is what it wants. > > > > Well.. It wants 15V regulated, and I've had it as high as 16V with no > > problems on a bench supply. > > >Cool. I am only standing on 5 years experience and the service manual. I didn't know anyone we knew had one. I didn't go past 16V because I didnt know the capacitor ratings on the input. 16V being a common rating, and acceptable for a 15V input. It's been a couple years, but somewhere in the archives, should be my original tests on the L50. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Wheeee!
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 12:15:52 -0500 From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Wh! > > > >The L50/100 power indicator is bi-color... you just don't want to see it > >orange! Orange solid or flash indicates an unhappy power input circuit. > >Remember: 15.00v is what it wants. > > Well.. It wants 15V regulated, and I've had it as high as 16V with no > problems on a bench supply. Cool. I am only standing on 5 years experience and the service manual. Thanks Pres Waterman W2PW c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc. Long Island Ford and Kia dealer GO BILLS! ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Wheeee!
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 11:48:49 -0500 From: David VanHorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Wh! > >The L50/100 power indicator is bi-color... you just don't want to see it >orange! Orange solid or flash indicates an unhappy power input circuit. >Remember: 15.00v is what it wants. Well.. It wants 15V regulated, and I've had it as high as 16V with no problems on a bench supply. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Wheeee!
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 10:55:06 -0500 From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Wh! > Umm ... last time I popped keys off a laptop keyboard I found that they were in fact melt-riveted on at the back (ie. you can't pop them back on). Can you pop the Libby keytops off? I'm Yes, they have a flimsy sort of scissor jack effect behind them. > Ummm ... I'd say they are, for one thing the L50 power LED isn't a bi-color. The online manual isn't much help ... the power LED has 4 states - solid green, solid orange, blinking orange and off ... the manual makes no mention of solid orange. > The L50/100 power indicator is bi-color... you just don't want to see it orange! Orange solid or flash indicates an unhappy power input circuit. Remember: 15.00v is what it wants. > >NOT TRUE, THERE IS AN ACPI PATCH > > WHERE?!?!?! Tell me you have looked at the http://www.toshiba.com website for drivers and can't find it. Then I will go look for you. > >Have people got APM working on Win98SE using the L100? (I'm talking things > >like PROPER hibernation, going into suspend but saving HDD contents so it > >will flip over to hibernation after X minutes, redetecting devices on > >resume, etc.). > > > > > >WELL, PROPER HIBERNATION HAS ALWAYS REMAINED ELUSIVE. I find a restore from > >hibernation is not actually faster then a full boot that seems necessary > >anyway, because devices DON'T reset well. > > Hmm ... 'caus my L50 handled hibernation extremely well, even with big hardware changes (eg. undocking then plugging in a NIC, etc.) ... I hope this L100 can be coerced into doing the same thing because I loved how I could do that with my old one ... > > > >Well, there is a full Win95B restore "CD" posted recently if you want to see > >it as the factory intended. > > Ya tried that but I couldn't get USB working with it. I've since ghosted that, I'm trying 98 now, if APM drives me nuts or its unstable I'll ghost 95 back on. I'd *prefer* to get 98SE working because some of the USB junk I've got won't work under 95 but I'd rather get proper APM working first. USB requires W98... I think! And there is a USB unload utility required for the enhanced dock. Thanks Pres Waterman W2PW c/o Patchogue Motors, Inc. Long Island Ford and Kia dealer GO BILLS! ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
RE: [LIB] Wheeee!
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 09:53:41 - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LIB] Wh! the ME driver should work fine.. it's not too warm here (around 22C average) Kevin. -Original Message- From: Raymond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 09:51 To: Libretto Subject: RE: [LIB] Wh! Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 16:45:35 +0800 From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [LIB] Wh! At 12:05 AM 27/02/2002 -0800, you wrote: >Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 07:58:03 - >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: [LIB] Wh! > > >www.toshiba.ca have one i think k thanks, heading over there now ... I've been running off www.toshiba.com so far ... *sigh* if only they could either put all their stuff in one place and all link there, or replicate ALL their stuff everywhere ... ... gah! Spoke too soon ... toshiba.ca only have the WinME and WinNT FDD drivers. I'm hoping the ME one will work under 98 ... On a separate note, you mentioned that you were running an L100 at 266 nicely ... what sorta ambient air temperature is this under? Cheers! - Raymond --- /~\ | | "Does fuzzy logic tickle?"| | ___ | "My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup?" | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
RE: [LIB] Wheeee!
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 16:45:35 +0800 From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [LIB] Wh! At 12:05 AM 27/02/2002 -0800, you wrote: >Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 07:58:03 - >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: [LIB] Wh! > > >www.toshiba.ca have one i think k thanks, heading over there now ... I've been running off www.toshiba.com so far ... *sigh* if only they could either put all their stuff in one place and all link there, or replicate ALL their stuff everywhere ... ... gah! Spoke too soon ... toshiba.ca only have the WinME and WinNT FDD drivers. I'm hoping the ME one will work under 98 ... On a separate note, you mentioned that you were running an L100 at 266 nicely ... what sorta ambient air temperature is this under? Cheers! - Raymond --- /~\ | | "Does fuzzy logic tickle?"| | ___ | "My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup?" | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
RE: [LIB] Wheeee!
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 07:58:03 - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LIB] Wh! www.toshiba.ca have one i think -Original Message- From: Raymond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 07:17 To: Libretto Subject: RE: [LIB] Wh! Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 15:07:42 +0800 From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [LIB] Wh! At 10:50 PM 26/02/2002 -0800, you wrote: >Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 01:04:44 -0500 >From: "Paul D. J. Davila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [LIB] Wh! > >I run win98lite on my lib50 and like it allot it was recommended to me by >someone on the list. basically its win98se with IE5 removed. it uses the old >win98 style explorer for going through files ect. Ugh ... this L100 had Win98Lite on it when I got it, complete waste of time IMHO ... but then again I've given up fighting Microsoft, I just live with it when I have to and use Linux when I don't ;-) On a separate note, I must be blind or something but I'm having one hellava time finding the Y-E Data floppy drive drivers for 98! Anyone point me in the right direction? - Raymond --- /~\ | | "Does fuzzy logic tickle?"| | ___ | "My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup?" | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
RE: [LIB] Wheeee!
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 15:07:42 +0800 From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [LIB] Wh! At 10:50 PM 26/02/2002 -0800, you wrote: >Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 01:04:44 -0500 >From: "Paul D. J. Davila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [LIB] Wh! > >I run win98lite on my lib50 and like it allot it was recommended to me by >someone on the list. basically its win98se with IE5 removed. it uses the old >win98 style explorer for going through files ect. Ugh ... this L100 had Win98Lite on it when I got it, complete waste of time IMHO ... but then again I've given up fighting Microsoft, I just live with it when I have to and use Linux when I don't ;-) On a separate note, I must be blind or something but I'm having one hellava time finding the Y-E Data floppy drive drivers for 98! Anyone point me in the right direction? - Raymond --- /~\ | | "Does fuzzy logic tickle?"| | ___ | "My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup?" | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
RE: [LIB] Wheeee!
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 01:04:44 -0500 From: "Paul D. J. Davila" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [LIB] Wh! I run win98lite on my lib50 and like it allot it was recommended to me by someone on the list. basically its win98se with IE5 removed. it uses the old win98 style explorer for going through files ect. Paul D. J. Davila Brooklyn NY 2002 Harley Davidson FLHT Electra Glide 1987 Honda Super Magna VF700C 1981 Kawasaki KZ440D LTD http://www.pauld.alloffroad.com/ <http://www.geocities.com/bronco7794> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -Original Message- > From: Raymond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 1:36 AM > To: Libretto > Subject: Re: [LIB] Wh! > > > Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 14:31:49 +0800 > From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [LIB] Wh! > > At 10:10 PM 26/02/2002 -0800, you wrote: > >Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 01:02:05 -0500 > >From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: [LIB] Wh! > > > >> I'm now a proud owner of a L100! (yea so now I'm a greedy > Libretto owner > > until I sell my L50 to my sister) ... > > > >Keep 'em both! > > Heh ... not an option, I'm running short of cash as it is ... heh > > > > I couldn't see any bad pixels on the screen, no dead keys on > the keyboard > >(the keyboard itself is a UK keyboard so its got the pound sign > and all the > >right keys in the wrong places ;-) ... I keep pressing AltGr instead of > >spacebar, # instead of \ and @ instead of " but I'll get used to that (or > >I'll set Windows back to International keyboard and write new > symbols on the > >keys keys so its like a SANE PERSON'S keyboard!). > > > >WHEN YOU REMAP THEM, CAN'T YOU POP OFF THE KEYS AND REPLACE THEM? > > Umm ... last time I popped keys off a laptop keyboard I found > that they were in fact melt-riveted on at the back (ie. you can't > pop them back on). Can you pop the Libby keytops off? I'm quite > happy just remapping them anyway ... I don't look at the keys > anyway. I'm wondering if I can remap Alt-Gr (currently acting as > the right Alt key) to a second space bar though ... it falls just > under my right thumb ... > > > >Can someone with the L100 manual tell me what the 4 LEDs in their various > >blink states actually DO (they're obviously different to the way the L50 > >works). > > > >I DON'T THINK THEY ARE DIFFERENT! > > Ummm ... I'd say they are, for one thing the L50 power LED isn't > a bi-color. The online manual isn't much help ... the power LED > has 4 states - solid green, solid orange, blinking orange and off > ... the manual makes no mention of solid orange. > > > >> Regarding batteries, is the extended pack for the L100 the same size as > >the standard pack? > > > >YES, but the standard has 3 cells and the extended has 6 > > > >Whats the capacity and approximate real-use runtime on each? > > 2400mAh ... > > > >> Regarding operating system choice, given a choice between Win95OSR2 and > >Win98SE, which one would be better to use? Win95OSR2 is faster > for the same > >RAM and fully supports the Libby's APM stuff but it doesn't have > USB support > > Win98SE has more features and has USB but according to Toshiba, APM > >doesn't work on it. > > > >NOT TRUE, THERE IS AN ACPI PATCH > > WHERE?!?!?! > > > >Have people got APM working on Win98SE using the L100? (I'm > talking things > >like PROPER hibernation, going into suspend but saving HDD contents so it > >will flip over to hibernation after X minutes, redetecting devices on > >resume, etc.). > > > > > >WELL, PROPER HIBERNATION HAS ALWAYS REMAINED ELUSIVE. I find a > restore from > >hibernation is not actually faster then a full boot that seems necessary > >anyway, because devices DON'T reset well. > > Hmm ... 'caus my L50 handled hibernation extremely well, even > with big hardware changes (eg. undocking then plugging in a NIC, > etc.) ... I hope this L100 can be coerced into doing the same > thing because I loved how I could do that with my old one ... > > > >Well, there is a full Win95B restore "CD" posted recently if you > want to see > >it as the factory intended. > > Ya tried that but I couldn't get USB working with it. I've since > ghosted that, I'm trying 98 now, if APM drives me nuts or its &
Re: [LIB] Wheeee!
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 14:31:49 +0800 From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Wh! At 10:10 PM 26/02/2002 -0800, you wrote: >Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 01:02:05 -0500 >From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [LIB] Wh! > >> I'm now a proud owner of a L100! (yea so now I'm a greedy Libretto owner > until I sell my L50 to my sister) ... > >Keep 'em both! Heh ... not an option, I'm running short of cash as it is ... heh > I couldn't see any bad pixels on the screen, no dead keys on the keyboard >(the keyboard itself is a UK keyboard so its got the pound sign and all the >right keys in the wrong places ;-) ... I keep pressing AltGr instead of >spacebar, # instead of \ and @ instead of " but I'll get used to that (or >I'll set Windows back to International keyboard and write new symbols on the >keys keys so its like a SANE PERSON'S keyboard!). > >WHEN YOU REMAP THEM, CAN'T YOU POP OFF THE KEYS AND REPLACE THEM? Umm ... last time I popped keys off a laptop keyboard I found that they were in fact melt-riveted on at the back (ie. you can't pop them back on). Can you pop the Libby keytops off? I'm quite happy just remapping them anyway ... I don't look at the keys anyway. I'm wondering if I can remap Alt-Gr (currently acting as the right Alt key) to a second space bar though ... it falls just under my right thumb ... >Can someone with the L100 manual tell me what the 4 LEDs in their various >blink states actually DO (they're obviously different to the way the L50 >works). > >I DON'T THINK THEY ARE DIFFERENT! Ummm ... I'd say they are, for one thing the L50 power LED isn't a bi-color. The online manual isn't much help ... the power LED has 4 states - solid green, solid orange, blinking orange and off ... the manual makes no mention of solid orange. >> Regarding batteries, is the extended pack for the L100 the same size as >the standard pack? > >YES, but the standard has 3 cells and the extended has 6 > >Whats the capacity and approximate real-use runtime on each? 2400mAh ... >> Regarding operating system choice, given a choice between Win95OSR2 and >Win98SE, which one would be better to use? Win95OSR2 is faster for the same >RAM and fully supports the Libby's APM stuff but it doesn't have USB support > Win98SE has more features and has USB but according to Toshiba, APM >doesn't work on it. > >NOT TRUE, THERE IS AN ACPI PATCH WHERE?!?!?! >Have people got APM working on Win98SE using the L100? (I'm talking things >like PROPER hibernation, going into suspend but saving HDD contents so it >will flip over to hibernation after X minutes, redetecting devices on >resume, etc.). > > >WELL, PROPER HIBERNATION HAS ALWAYS REMAINED ELUSIVE. I find a restore from >hibernation is not actually faster then a full boot that seems necessary >anyway, because devices DON'T reset well. Hmm ... 'caus my L50 handled hibernation extremely well, even with big hardware changes (eg. undocking then plugging in a NIC, etc.) ... I hope this L100 can be coerced into doing the same thing because I loved how I could do that with my old one ... >Well, there is a full Win95B restore "CD" posted recently if you want to see >it as the factory intended. Ya tried that but I couldn't get USB working with it. I've since ghosted that, I'm trying 98 now, if APM drives me nuts or its unstable I'll ghost 95 back on. I'd *prefer* to get 98SE working because some of the USB junk I've got won't work under 95 but I'd rather get proper APM working first. - Raymond --- /~\ | | "Does fuzzy logic tickle?"| | ___ | "My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup?" | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Wheeee!
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 01:02:05 -0500 From: Pres Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Wh! > I'm now a proud owner of a L100! (yea so now I'm a greedy Libretto owner ... until I sell my L50 to my sister) ... Keep 'em both! > > It is noticeably bigger and heavier than the L50 (I gotta get myself bigger pockets now!) but the screen certainly is significantly nicer ... its got the 64 meg of RAM on board and the 2 gig hard drive (although I'll be moving my 20 gig hard drive into there) and it boots up a damn sight quicker than my old one (must be the RAM ... IIRC its only a P166 which isn't an awful lot faster than my P100 L50). > > I got the libby, power supply and advanced port replicator (having 4 PCMCIA slots is nice!) ... no docking bar though (did these actually COME with them?) YES or floppy drive. The docking bar for my L50 doesn't seem to want to fit (the docking connector seems to be a little larger in the L100) but the floppy diskette drive from my L50 seems to work OK ... I don't think I did too badly for $875AUD (about $437USD). > > I couldn't see any bad pixels on the screen, no dead keys on the keyboard (the keyboard itself is a UK keyboard so its got the pound sign and all the right keys in the wrong places ;-) ... I keep pressing AltGr instead of spacebar, # instead of \ and @ instead of " but I'll get used to that (or I'll set Windows back to International keyboard and write new symbols on the keys keys so its like a SANE PERSON'S keyboard!). WHEN YOU REMAP THEM, CAN'T YOU POP OFF THE KEYS AND REPLACE THEM? > > One thing that did puzzle me somewhat was why even though there is more space in the L100, its still got those plastic spacers under the hard drive (like on the L50/70) to accomodate the 8.5mm hard drive ... I had to remove them to get my 9.5mm 20 gig hard drive to fit. > > > > Some things I'd like to ask ... for those of you with both librettos, any quirks/issues between the 2 that might land me in the drink (especially regarding the layout of the internals)? For that matter, any quirks I should be aware of? > > Is it normal for the mouse buttons to be significantly stiffer on the L100 than the L50? YES Can someone with the L100 manual tell me what the 4 LEDs in their various blink states actually DO (they're obviously different to the way the L50 works). I DON'T THINK THEY ARE DIFFERENT! > > This L100 doesn't seem to do the 'write to hard drive during suspend' thingy (I go start>suspend and it suspends straight away, I know it hasn't written anything because if I pull all power and the battery then power back on it fails to recover) ... is that a setting somewhere or is that controlled from Windows now? I realize in power management you can set it to hibernate on panel close or on power button but it was sorta nice in the L50 where I could go suspend and if I needed to power back on in the next 20 minutes I could do so instantly whilst if the power died I could still resume from hibernation (this one actually caught me a bit ... the power profile was for 'always on' so whenever I suspended or hibernated, the laptop would turn itself back on!). > > If it does hibernate somewhere, does it shove the hibernation stuff in exactly the same place as the L50? I left about 120 meg free either side of 1024 cylinders on my old hard drive, should this be fine for the L100? I do have EZ-Bios installed and it seems to see all of the drive ... > > Does anyone know if its possible to access the processor temperature sensor on the L100 in software? Alternatively does it nicely hibernate when it overheats? I don't think I'll be overclocking it but then again it does get hot round here ... I just pulled the hard drive out and it was too hot to touch! > > Regarding batteries, is the extended pack for the L100 the same size as the standard pack? YES, but the standard has 3 cells and the extended has 6 Whats the capacity and approximate real-use runtime on each? I got a 2,600mAH aftermatket pack from http://www.sabaoceanic.com and got over 4 1/2 hours recently! Street Atlas and email reading, no modem installed. But, it has become intermittent and I will need to take it apart and repair it. > > Regarding operating system choice, given a choice between Win95OSR2 and Win98SE, which one would be better to use? Win95OSR2 is faster for the same RAM and fully supports the Libby's APM stuff but it doesn't have USB support ... Win98SE has more features and has USB but according to Toshiba, APM doesn't work on it. NOT TRUE, THERE IS AN ACPI PATCH Have people got APM working on Win98SE using the L100? (I'm talking things like PROPER hibernation, going into suspend but saving HDD contents so it will flip over to hibernation after X minutes, redetecting devic