Re: Mp3
Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 10:06:56 From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Mp3 Sonique works very well on a 50 for MP2 - particularly in the minimum view without all the silly graphics and should have no problems with MP3 Neil >From: "Douglas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Mp3 >Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 20:48:02 -0700 > >Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 20:45:56 -0700 >From: "Douglas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Mp3 > >Was wondering if my lib 50 would be up to the task of allowing me to listen >to some of my favourite MP3's and perhaps any suggestions of software known >to work on them would as always be appreciated. Douglas > > > > >** >http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list >http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives >http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ > ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe > UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- >Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... >** > _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: Mp3
Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 09:13:37 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Stuart=20G?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Mp3 Dear Douglas, Yeah, your Lib 50 CT will be able to listen to Mp3's easily. I suggest that you use Winamp. I think its made by Nullsoft. Its a brilliant Mp3 player and I love it how you can use skins with it. Also you might want to get a car-cassette adapter so that you can listen to Mp3's in your car while your travelling. >From Stuart --- Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 20:45:56 -0700 > From: "Douglas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Mp3 > > Was wondering if my lib 50 would be up to the task > of allowing me to listen > to some of my favourite MP3's and perhaps any > suggestions of software known > to work on them would as always be appreciated. > Douglas > > > > > ** > http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing > list > http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives > http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - > FAQ > ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe > > UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- > Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... > > ** > Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: Mp3
Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 09:38:27 From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Mp3 >From: Stuart G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Mp3 >Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 01:17:57 -0700 > >Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 09:13:37 +0100 (BST) >From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Stuart=20G?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Mp3 > >Dear Douglas, >Yeah, your Lib 50 CT will be able to listen to Mp3's >easily. I suggest that you use Winamp. I think its >made by Nullsoft. Its a brilliant Mp3 player and I >love it how you can use skins with it. > >Also you might want to get a car-cassette adapter so >that you can listen to Mp3's in your car while your >travelling. > > >From Stuart Though having played this game - don't forget an in-car power adaptor - mpeg playing will eat your batteries. Neil _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: Mp3
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 17:57:33 +1100 From: Daniel & Janelle Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Mp3 ken, I run a garmin 2+ with my lib 50 and a program called oziexplorer. It gives me realtime mapping and is quite handy... Better than I have managed to get working on my palm V... I just need to save a bit and get a 20 gig hd off Xin! (for all the maps) dan. Ken Kwok wrote: > Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 09:20:54 -0400 > From: "Ken Kwok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Mp3 > > My own experience is that the Lib 50 at its original 75 MHz wasn't quite up > to the task. I tried WinAmp and Real Player on it and play was very > jittery. I then went ahead with the 100 MHz upgrade and now it runs fine > with WinAmp and I use it in my car as an Mp3 player. Only thing is - on > extended use on a hot day, the Lib tends to overheat and shutsdown on me - > can be kinduf annoying when u're cuising along and have to pull aside to > resuscitate the thing... > > Am now thinking of getting a GPS card and running that on the Lib 50 since > I'm already using it in my car. ANyone have any experience with running GPS > on Libs? > > Ken > > >From: "Douglas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Mp3 > >Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 20:48:02 -0700 > > > >Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 20:45:56 -0700 > >From: "Douglas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Mp3 > > > >Was wondering if my lib 50 would be up to the task of allowing me to listen > >to some of my favourite MP3's and perhaps any suggestions of software known > >to work on them would as always be appreciated. Douglas > > > > ** > http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list > http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives > http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ > ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe > UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- > Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... > ** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: Mp3
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 05:50:26 -0700 (PDT) From: David Nedved <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Mp3 --- Ken Kwok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am now thinking of getting a GPS card and running that on the Lib 50 > since > I'm already using it in my car. ANyone have any experience with > running GPS > on Libs? The StreetAtlas series from Delorme seems to work fairly well for the US. Don't know of ANY good software for Europe. Programs which let you scan the maps in and calibrate them (like OziExplorer) seem like too much trouble to me, although if you stick to one particular area a lot then maybe it wouldn't be too bad to set up a map or two. The upside with them is that as long as you can get a paper map of your area, you can use the software. I have used the Delorme Tripmate GPS and now have a Garmin GPS 45 on the boat which interfaces brilliantly to the Libretto. Personally I hate the tangle of wires that plugging a GPS and Laptop in the car make. I've thought seriously about a more imbedded design... maybe including a MP3 player as well... I'd hate to hack up a Libretto for that though, I'd probably just go with a "biscuit PC". David = [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
RE: MP3 playback
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 10:39:39 +1100 From: "Joe Hovel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: MP3 playback My 50CT plays mp3's fine but has 32 MB of RAM and is overclocked to 100MHz. Joe > -Original Message- > From: Edward Capes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, 11 November 2000 10:29 AM > To: Libretto > Subject: MP3 playback > > > Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 21:20:53 - > From: "Edward Capes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: MP3 playback > > Dear Libretto users > > How do I get MP3 files to play plack without jumping and > hesitating? I have winamp. My Lib is a 50ct with 3.2gig 16mb not > over clocked. > > any ideas? > > TIA > > Ed > > > > ** > http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list > http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives > http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ > ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe > UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- > Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... > ** > > ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: MP3 playback
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:51:02 -0700 From: Brad Waddell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: MP3 playback >How do I get MP3 files to play plack without jumping and hesitating? I >have winamp. My Lib is a 50ct with 3.2gig 16mb not over clocked. Mine does the same, Does your hard drive make a parking sound after each read like mine does? This only happened after I upgraded to Win98. brad -- Brad Waddell *** FLEXquarters *** voice-mail/fax: 602-532-7019 Postal: FLEXquarters 581 W 4th St. #99 Benson AZ 85602 USA Web and ODBC Solutions for DataFlex *** www.flexquarters.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: MP3 playback
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 07:49:24 GMT From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: MP3 playback Ed, You might like to try Sonique <http://sonique.lycos.com/dload.phtml> as the player and turn all the fancy graphics off. That should go ok. (it uses as much processor doing the display stuff as it does decoding). Also, if you have MS office components, make sure FastFind is disabled as it has a tendency to start sniffing at the disc just when you don't want it to... And of course the obvious: make sure the disc is defragged so that any audio can be got without too much shuffling around of the heads. Don't believe the defragger when it tells you that it's only 2% and doesn't need doing... Neil >From: "Edward Capes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: MP3 playback >Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:28:35 -0800 > >Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 21:20:53 - >From: "Edward Capes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: MP3 playback > >Dear Libretto users > >How do I get MP3 files to play plack without jumping and hesitating? I >have winamp. My Lib is a 50ct with 3.2gig 16mb not over clocked. > >any ideas? > >TIA > >Ed > > > >** >http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list >http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives >http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ > ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe > UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- >Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... >** > _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
RE: MP3 playback
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 16:17:10 +0800 From: "Wizard of Oz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: MP3 playback Try a better mp3 player... the one I use is coolplayer from http://coolplayer.8m.com/ its small, fast and seems to do the trick on my l100/ibm560 (both 166MHz) Wiz ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: MP3 playback
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 07:43:42 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MP3 playback In a message dated 11/11/00 3:18:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 16:17:10 +0800 > From: "Wizard of Oz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: MP3 playback > > Try a better mp3 player... the one I use is coolplayer from > http://coolplayer.8m.com/ its small, fast and seems to do the trick on my > l100/ibm560 (both 166MHz) > > Wiz > > Sorry but that link is no good. I wolud like to try that program. ?? TX Roy > > > ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: MP3 playback
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 09:54:49 -0500 From: "E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: MP3 playback What MP3 player are you using successfully? How's the speed of the computer for other tasks while it's playing MP3s? -e. - Original Message - From: "Richard Munson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 9:00 AM Subject: MP3 playback > Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:56:53 + > From: Richard Munson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: MP3 playback > > To all who offered assistance with my mp3 play back problems, thanks. > It still didnt work, several reboots, a complete windows reinstall. So lost > my temper > and put it in a cupboard for a couple of weeks, just switched it on and mp3 > play just fine > dont ask why but if you have similar problems then, lock the computer in a > dark hole > for and least 14 days and that will teach it a lesson. ;- > > > > > ** > http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list > http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives > http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ > ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe > UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- > Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... > ** > > ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: MP3 playback
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 13:49:59 + From: Richard Munson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: MP3 playback I am using the latest version of winamp, speed seems fine, mouse movement doesent afect the playback but opening a program causes a little hicup. At 07:05 27/11/00 -0800, you wrote: >Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 09:54:49 -0500 >From: "E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: MP3 playback > >What MP3 player are you using successfully? > >How's the speed of the computer for other tasks while it's playing MP3s? > >-e. > > >- Original Message - >From: "Richard Munson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 9:00 AM >Subject: MP3 playback > > > > Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 13:56:53 + > > From: Richard Munson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: MP3 playback > > > > To all who offered assistance with my mp3 play back problems, thanks. > > It still didnt work, several reboots, a complete windows reinstall. So >lost > > my temper > > and put it in a cupboard for a couple of weeks, just switched it on and >mp3 > > play just fine > > dont ask why but if you have similar problems then, lock the computer in a > > dark hole > > for and least 14 days and that will teach it a lesson. ;- > > > > > > > > > > ** > > http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list > > http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives > > http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ > > ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe > > UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- > > Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... > > ** > > > > > > > > > >** >http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list >http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives >http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ > ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe > UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- >Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... >** ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: MP3 playback
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:53:57 - From: "Ian Macleod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: MP3 playback Richard Munson wrote: To all who offered assistance with my mp3 play back problems, thanks. It still didnt work, several reboots, a complete windows reinstall. So lost my temper and put it in a cupboard for a couple of weeks, just switched it on and mp3 play just fine dont ask why but if you have similar problems then, lock the computer in a dark hole for and least 14 days and that will teach it a lesson. ;- Richard: I sent a reply to your original message but I see from perusing the back issues it didn't get through. Have you checked your Power Saver properties (in Control Panel)? If the Processor Speed is set at anything other than High you'll get skip and stutter playing MP3 tracks. Just a thought. Ian ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: MP3 playback
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 12:12:00 -0700 From: Brad Waddell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: MP3 playback Ian, could you upload the power saver control panel item to us? I don't have one and cannot set processor speed, which I think is why I also get stutter playback. thanks! >Have you checked your Power Saver properties (in Control Panel)? -- Brad Waddell *** FLEXquarters *** voice-mail/fax: 602-532-7019 Postal: FLEXquarters 581 W 4th St. #99 Benson AZ 85602 USA Web and ODBC Solutions for DataFlex *** www.flexquarters.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: MP3 playback
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 09:48:43 - From: "Ian Macleod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: MP3 playback Brad Here's a site and a page from which you can download L7095CT.ZIP for the Lib 70 or, by switching pages, the equivalent for other models. http://enduser:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/code/html-list+files?frames=n&area= 421 That's probably easier than me trying to send part of it to you but shout if you still have problems. Ian Brad Waddell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ian, could you upload the power saver control panel item to us? I don't > have one and cannot set processor speed, which I think is why I also get > stutter playback. thanks! > > >Have you checked your Power Saver properties (in Control Panel)? > ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: MP3 vs WMA
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 12:39:38 -0800 (PST) From: David Chien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: MP3 vs WMA > First question is, what is the down side of the format? WMA is totally incompatible with most other players out there and require you to use Microsoft's Windows Media Player. In other words, it's propriatary, non-open, non-freeware, and it'll lock all of you're songs to the OS and Player you have today from Microsoft. They certainly don't guarentee that today's songs will play in tommorrow's players, and they certainly haven't released the specs free to the public. You can only use Microsoft's encoder to get the songs into WMA format; vs. the dozens of free and pay-for MP3 encoders out there. In fact, LAME mp3 encoder is so good as a free encoder, I recommend it highly over the rest, esp. at higher than 128Kb/s bitrates. In short, it's like using 8-track tapes to save all your songs to when everyone else is using CDs. Good luck if you use WMA... Forget about burning your MP3 collection to CD-R and playing them in your desktop/portable CD/MP3 player for 10 hours of non-stop music as well. No such thing as a portable WMA player. Forget about using the vast majority of popular MP3 players out there as they usually don't care a whit about WMA files. Forget about using most CD Rippers as they won't support encoding to WMA either. > Second, the ripper I use will also "convert" mp3's to WMA. What bit rate > would I have to have in the source MP3 to end up with a good 64 bit WMA. Higher the better naturally. MP3s encoded at 128Kb/s will normally have a bandwidth of 20-16Khz. (Yes, just about every MP3 encoder out there chops off there, and if you even silly attempt to force it to encode the higher 16k-20kHz range, it's just noise and junk - http://www.silverace.com/ for my MP3 article on the quality of various MP3 encoders.) Thus, if you expect the best WMA, you need the best source. Original CDs would be nice; if not and you've only got 128Kb/s MP3s, then expect the same 20-16Khz limitation to exist in the WMA file. Also, because most MP3 encoders out there are based on the fast-but-horribly-poor-quality Xing encoder, expect added noise and distortion reencoding a Xing-encoded MP3 into WMA. (See my MP3 article for details. Best bets? Frauenhof MP3 encoder (their dog-slow one) or LAME. I even wonder how people don't hear the fish-bowl effect of Xing-based encoders on their songs Xing-based encoders include Music Matchbox, Audiocatalyst, Real, and just about anything that seems to encoder too fast to be true.) In short, my recommendation is this: 1. MP3 is the default, world-wide standard. Unless you absolutely need 2x+ more space and can't buy another HD or use CD-Rs, then use MP3s. 2. Encode using LAME or Frauenhof MP3 encoders only. The rest are junk and introduce far more audio distortion and noise than these two that are the best in the world. 3. If you don't want FM quality MP3 songs (ie. 20-16Khz bandwidth), you must encode at 256Kb/s or 320Kb/s. Both will provide full 20-20Khz coverage, with 320Kb/s being better naturally -- do audio tests to see if you even can hear the difference in picking 256Kb/s or 320Kb/s. (eg. for rock music, you can use 256Kb/s almost all the time because there's so much 'noise' generated by the guitars and drums in the background. But if there's an excellent singer's voice in the foreground, you may need 320Kb/s to capture the full quality and tonality of her voice - eg. 320Kb/s for Miwa Y. when she sings Dreams Come True band songs.) However, for the vast majority of listeners who don't even have speakers than can reproduce anything above 15Khz correctly or at all, feel free to stick with 128Kb/s as you won't hear it anyways. 4. Apex DVD/MP3/CD/VCD TV-top player for $179+ at Circuit City stores or online at www.dvd-wizards.com will allow you to play 10 hours non-stop from a single MP3 CD-R disc filled to capacity. Other players are listed at www.mp3.com -> hardware -> players. The nice thing about the Apex from DVD Wizards is that it can be region-free and macrovision-free. 5. If you must pack the most amount of music into your HD, look at Real.com's free encoder and player as well. It is the world's best low-bitrate encoder for most projects, and it'll whip WMA's ass at lower bit-rates. Between lower bit-rates and 128Kb/s MP3s, you may need to test both to pick the better encoder. However, due to RealPlayer's availablity across numerous platforms (Linux, Mac, Windows, etc.), their constant improvements in encoding quality and technology (faster than WMA has been releasing), and their greater popularity, I'd strongly consider Real first for low-bit-rate encoding. As an added plus, it encodes Re
RE: MP3 vs WMA
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 17:11:44 -0500 From: "E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: MP3 vs WMA I effectively have a portable WMA player--my PocketPC. That is an option. However, for the record, I totally agree with David on this point: I would not replace my MP3s with WMAs. I create WMAs as needed from my MP3s just so they take up minimal space on my PocketPC. It would be nice if it was an open format. -e. > Forget about burning your MP3 collection to CD-R and playing them in your desktop/portable CD/MP3 player for 10 hours of non-stop music as well. No such thing as a portable WMA player. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: MP3 vs WMA
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 00:21:00 - From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: MP3 vs WMA >From: David Chien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: MP3 vs WMA Has anyone heard about a new sound compression format called CCM or CC something that is supposed to compress audio far better than mp3, and is currently being supported by ASCAP and the music industry as a whole because of it's copyright protection capabilities? I saw it mentioned briefly on TechTV, but even I'm not betting on its biting into mp3 popularity any too soon. The technology sounds interesting though. Matt _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: MP3 vs WMA
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 00:21:08 - From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: MP3 vs WMA >From: David Chien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: MP3 vs WMA Has anyone heard about a new sound compression format called CCM or CC something that is supposed to compress audio far better than mp3, and is currently being supported by ASCAP and the music industry as a whole because of it's copyright protection capabilities? I saw it mentioned briefly on TechTV, but even I'm not betting on its biting into mp3 popularity any too soon. The technology sounds interesting though. Matt _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: MP3 vs WMA
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 00:21:48 - From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: MP3 vs WMA >From: David Chien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: MP3 vs WMA Has anyone heard about a new sound compression format called CCM or CC something that is supposed to compress audio far better than mp3, and is currently being supported by ASCAP and the music industry as a whole because of it's copyright protection capabilities? I saw it mentioned briefly on TechTV, but even I'm not betting on its biting into mp3 popularity any too soon. The technology sounds interesting though. Matt _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: MP3 - Sound on Libretto
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 14:55:24 -0500 From: "Edmund Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: MP3 - Sound on Libretto >I'm kinda looking into potentially purchasing a Libretto, but first I just >want to clear up a few areas. > >I know that all the Libretto's come supplied with them a sound blaster pro >(or clone). But if my memory serves me right, aren't these cards only 8bit >stereo? What I want to use the machine for, primairily, is for MP3's and I >don't think this the soundblaster pro is going to be good enough for them. >Can anyone tell me what experiences that they have had with this? You are partially correct. From the 50CT up to the Libretto 100/110CT, the sound chipset used was the Yamaha OPL3-SA2/3. This chipset did indeed support emulation; in fact, it emulated both the SBPro and the Windows Sound System at the same time. On the 50/60/70CT, the emulation settings were set in the BIOS. This apparantly has been done away with on the 100/110, but the default values seem to work fine. (io=0x220 mss_io=0x530 irq=5 dma=1 dma2=0) In operating systems with native support for the OPL3-SA2/3 chipset, you will be able to get 16-bit sound. It works fine for me in Linux and Win98, and the output on the 100/110 seems to sound cleaner than the 50/60/70CT. >I have also been looking at soundblaster 16 PCMCIA cards, if anyone has any >info on these I would be very grateful. Never heard of those, though. - Ed. -- Get your free email from http://www.kellychen.com powered by OutBlaze ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: MP3 - Sound on Libretto
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 22:12:39 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Fabian=20Storck?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: MP3 - Sound on Libretto I`ve got a problem running MP3s at a lib 50ct with 16meg`s of memory, anyone knows to fix this ? which player should i use ? or do i need to sample all mp3`s down ? greetings __ Do You Yahoo!? Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Yahoo! Mail auf Ihrem Handy? - http://mobil.yahoo.de ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: MP3 - Sound on Libretto
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 00:48:02 PDT From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: MP3 - Sound on Libretto Hi Fred, The Yamaha chip in the Lib (50 at least and I assume the others) emulates sound blaster in 8bit mode only, but with the supplied drivers it works fine in 16 bit stereo mode. I play MP2 all the time, no problems... I also have stashed away somewhere a *12* bit pcmcia card, which I've never used, and I have done some testing for work on 16 bit cards (for our reporters) which at the time (a couple of years back) I found to be uniformly noisy and prone to distortion. Things have probably changed since then but as all(?) laptop makers now include multimedia on the motherboard I'd be surprised if they've changed much... Neil >From: "fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: MP3 - Sound on Libretto >Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 11:21:10 -0700 > >Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 19:16:28 +0100 >From: "fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: MP3 - Sound on Libretto > >Hi all, > >I'm kinda looking into potentially purchasing a Libretto, but first I just >want to clear up a few areas. > >I know that all the Libretto's come supplied with them a sound blaster pro >(or clone). But if my memory serves me right, aren't these cards only 8bit >stereo? What I want to use the machine for, primairily, is for MP3's and I >don't think this the soundblaster pro is going to be good enough for them. >Can anyone tell me what experiences that they have had with this? > >I have also been looking at soundblaster 16 PCMCIA cards, if anyone has any >info on these I would be very grateful. > >Thanks, > >Iain > > > > > >** >http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list >http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives >http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ > ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe > UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- >Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... >** > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: MP3 - Sound on Libretto
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 01:06:59 PDT From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: MP3 - Sound on Libretto Fabian, What's the problem? I run MP2 which has a slightly lower computational requirement and they seem to need about 1/3 of the available processor time - there shouldn't be any problem with MP3. Sonique claims to need 100MHz pentium though. If the sound is stuttering with nothing else running your best bet is probably more memory (actually, that's a good bet anytime) and if that doesn't cure it, maybe there's no buffer in the disk? If it's stuttering with something like MS Word running, you know the answer Neil >From: Fabian Storck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: MP3 - Sound on Libretto >Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 13:16:10 -0700 > >Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 22:12:39 +0200 (CEST) >From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Fabian=20Storck?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: MP3 - Sound on Libretto > >I`ve got a problem running MP3s at a lib 50ct with >16meg`s of memory, anyone knows to fix this ? >which player should i use ? >or do i need to sample all mp3`s down ? > >greetings > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de >Yahoo! Mail auf Ihrem Handy? - http://mobil.yahoo.de > > > > >** >http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list >http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives >http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ > ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe > UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- >Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... >** > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: MP3 - Sound on Libretto
Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 16:26:14 EDT From: "Chris Ritskes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: MP3 - Sound on Libretto I'm running Sonique on a L100 w/64MB Ram and I've bee quite happy with the sound of 128kb .mp3s. Most often, though, its in the car running through a cassette adapter so that's not the greatest place to evaluate. Even then I can reduce almost all the background noise by adjusting the Sonique volume, the Win95 volume and the car stereo volume. Running on headphones or cheap speakers also sounds fine for my uses and with the recent arrival of compatible 12-20GB HDs, you can carry quite a bit of music around with you. HTH, Chris. Drugged Up in Northern Ontario [EMAIL PROTECTED] members.xoom.com/caritskes --- Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 19:16:28 +0100 From: "fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: MP3 - Sound on Libretto Hi all, I'm kinda looking into potentially purchasing a Libretto, but first I just want to clear up a few areas. I know that all the Libretto's come supplied with them a sound blaster pro (or clone). But if my memory serves me right, aren't these cards only 8bit stereo? What I want to use the machine for, primairily, is for MP3's and I don't think this the soundblaster pro is going to be good enough for them. Can anyone tell me what experiences that they have had with this? I have also been looking at soundblaster 16 PCMCIA cards, if anyone has any info on these I would be very grateful. Thanks, Iain --- Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: MP3 - Sound on Libretto
Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 13:14:08 +0200 From: Paul Bristow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: MP3 - Sound on Libretto Hi fred, I use my libretto 100CT for multimedia development (I work on new technology for Philips). What I can tell you is that hen I hooked it up to a decent amp the MP3's sound terrific, with almost no noise even at maximum gain. Be careful with the player though. Winamp is not the best MP3 sound quality around. For windows Sonique is pretty good, although IMHO XMMS anmd mpg123 on Linux can't be beat. fred wrote: > > Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 19:16:28 +0100 > From: "fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: MP3 - Sound on Libretto > > Hi all, > > I'm kinda looking into potentially purchasing a Libretto, but first I just > want to clear up a few areas. > > I know that all the Libretto's come supplied with them a sound blaster pro > (or clone). But if my memory serves me right, aren't these cards only 8bit > stereo? What I want to use the machine for, primairily, is for MP3's and I > don't think this the soundblaster pro is going to be good enough for them. > Can anyone tell me what experiences that they have had with this? > > I have also been looking at soundblaster 16 PCMCIA cards, if anyone has any > info on these I would be very grateful. > > Thanks, > > Iain > > ** > http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list > http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives > http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ > ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe > UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- > Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... > ** Cheers, -- Paul Web: http://paulbristow.net Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: #11965223 ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **
Re: MP3 - Sound on Libretto
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 19:04:05 GMT From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: MP3 - Sound on Libretto >From: Fabian Storck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I`ve got a problem running MP3s at a lib 50ct with >16meg`s of memory, anyone knows to fix this ? >which player should i use ? >or do i need to sample all mp3`s down ? > >greetings Fabian... I have both WinAmp and MusicMatch running on my 50ct relatively well. First of all, you'll undoubtedly need the other 16MB RAM that the 50ct can accept. With 32MB RAM, these two MP3 players just barely work on my system, but thay DO play the music without stuttering if you do nothing else with the system. I was told by the MusicMatch tech support that my 50ct did not meet the software's requirrements, and therefore the problems I was having with the sound breaking up could not be corrected. However, I found that by increasing the system's resources as far as I could push them, the MP3s run just fine as long as I do nothing else at all with the system at the same time. If I attempt to execute ANYTHING while an MP3 is playing, the system won't respond to the commands for up to a few minutes. The solution there has been to first pause the MP3 before doing things like changing the volume, altering the equalization, or using any other program. My system resources are up to 94% right after the system boots. Check that on your system in System Properties (right click My Computer and go to Properties) and click on the Performance tab. There are a lot of ways to free up system resources. I wrote a long note on them 5-8 months back on this list. If your system tray on the right end of the taskbar has a lot of icons in it when your system boots, use MSCONFIG to turn everything off that you can. Look in your autoexec.bat or config.sys files if you have them for programs & drivers that don't need to be loaded. Remove anything from the Startup folder on the Start/Programs menu in your C:\Windows\Start Menu\Startup directory. I'm sure I'm forgetting some other tweaks. You can test your system (hopefully w/32MB RAM) temporarily by hitting crtl-alt-del several times, and one by one selecting everything on the list except 'systray' and 'explorer', and then clicking on 'End Task'. That will stop most programs, though not always all of them, that are running silently in the background, and should temporarily free up your system resources w/32MB RAM enough to play the MP3s. Get the little 'Wintop' utility to check for any other programs running silently... though we tested it on a trojan virus once, and Wintop didn't see it. Good luck! It WILL work w/32MB RAM relatively decently. I'm going on vacation today, so I'll be 'sighning' off the list for a while now. Ciao, Matt Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://libretto.basiclink.com/archive - Archives http://www.picante.com/~gtaylor/portable/faq.html - FAQ ---UNSUBSCRIBE--- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=cmd:unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Use above but add DIGEST to the subject line... **