Re: OT: high-precision tuner app
Hello Andrew, Apart from doing engraving scores with lilypond, I am also a harpsichord maker (and tuner obviously) and a player. I have decades of experience doing professional tuning. Also having a background in maths and computing, I take an interest in temperaments, tuning theory, and tuning programs. There are many tuner programs for Android available. But the ones that let you enter and tune custom temperaments only support 12 notes per octave. As far I am aware there are no programs that support more notes per octave. Also, in relation to accuracy, no phone tuner app is more accurate than 0.1 cent. in testing, even that is doubtful, to tell the truth, and you are lucky if a phone is accurate to one cent (depressingly). You cannot find a program that is accurate to 0.01 cents as you require. One reason for this is that phones do not have particularly accurate ADC/DAC chips. The other reason is that the ear simply cannot hear a hundredth of a cent difference, even when comparing two notes in a just intonation and listening for beats and so on. There are many papers in psychoacoustics that have established this. It seems to me that what you actually want is a high precision frequency meter instead. There are tools like this for computers, but you are unlikely to find that sort of laboratory accuracy application for a mere phone. If you have a Mac you could look at: http://www.faberacoustical.com/apps/mac/electroacoustics_toolbox/ Or could use this for accurate frequency measurement: http://www.baudline.com/index.html Other than that, better write your own app. I am sure there are a lot of just intonation folks who need such a tool. Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Time signature at end of score.
Am 24.05.2016 um 00:47 schrieb Charles Suncana:
Hi, I´m a newbie to Lilypond and am using Frescobaldi to help me use it. At the
end of each engraving Frescobaldi puts a courtesy time signature for the next
expected bar. However when the piece is finished AND converted to PDF, the
courtesy time signature is still there at the end of the score. Does anyone
know how to remove it? -charlesross-
I’m not sure what you’re talking about: Frescobaldi doesn’t add things
to the LilyPond code you see. And LilyPond does what you tell it to do.
So a time signature is only present where you put a \time command.
The following code adds a “C” time signature to the end but only because
it tells LilyPond to do so:
\version "2.18.2"
{
b1
\time 4/4
}
Are you sure you mean “time signature” and not f. e. “bar line”? If so,
why don’t you want the bar line?
If this doesn’t help please show your code that produces the problem you
describe (preferrably a tiny example:
http://lilypond.org/tiny-examples.html).
___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Time signature at end of score.
Hi Charles, welcome to the world of LilyPond. Hopefully you'll get a good start and stick to it :-) Am 24.05.2016 um 00:47 schrieb Charles Suncana: > Hi, I´m a newbie to Lilypond and am using Frescobaldi to help me use > it. At the end of each engraving Frescobaldi puts a courtesy time > signature for the next expected bar. However when the piece is > finished AND converted to PDF, the courtesy time signature is still > there at the end of the score. Does anyone know how to remove it? > -charlesross- I'm sorry but this description doesn't seem to make much sense to me. In order to get assistance (which you will most likely get from this list) you should provide us with - a minimal working code example - maybe an image of the result (attached, not inline) - a description what on that page isn't correct in your opinion This will give us the chance to see what is going wrong. Best wishes Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Time signature at end of score.
Hi, Charles! On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Charles Suncana [via Lilypond] < ml-node+s1069038n190902...@n5.nabble.com> wrote: > Hi, I´m a newbie to Lilypond and am using Frescobaldi to help me use it. > At the end of each engraving Frescobaldi puts a courtesy time signature for > the next expected bar. However when the piece is finished AND converted to > PDF, the courtesy time signature is still there at the end of the score. > Does anyone know how to remove it? -charlesross- > Welcome to the group! I'm pretty sure it isn't Frescobaldi that's doing it, but either way, if you could attach (either inline or as a separate file) a minimal working code sample that shows this problem, we'd be happy to help. Best, Abraham P.S. Trimming your code down to a "minimal working sample" may help you find the answer without our help, FYI. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Time-signature-at-end-of-score-tp190902p190903.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Time signature at end of score.
Hi, I´m a newbie to Lilypond and am using Frescobaldi to help me use it. At the end of each engraving Frescobaldi puts a courtesy time signature for the next expected bar. However when the piece is finished AND converted to PDF, the courtesy time signature is still there at the end of the score. Does anyone know how to remove it? -charlesross- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: OT: high-precision tuner app
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 1:38 PM, N. Andrew Walsh wrote: > Hi List, > > I'm guessing somebody on the list might be able to help me with a somewhat > off-topic issue. > > For whatever reason (or rather: see my previous posts to the list about my > interest in just intonation) I'm trying to find a tuning app capable of > tuning to very precisely-set reference pitches. That is, when dealing with > music in just intonation, it's very common to describe a pitch with > something like "C# -49.52c" where the latter part is a deviation in cents > from a standard reference pitch (which can also be set as "A440" or some > other tuning pitch [which is sometimes necessary when dealing with European > orchestras inexorably tuning themselves higher and higher to seem more > "flashy" or whatever]). I'm trying to find a (preferably free) Android app > that can be set as precisely as possible, and then provide visual feedback > to tune my instruments. > > I normally use a Peterson virtual strobe tuner, but the screen is failing, > and it gets wobbly if the pitch isn't from an organ or similarly stable > instrument. It oftentimes jumps from the tuning pitch to its fifth, and is > hard to read. > > Is there an app out there that has the capability I'm looking for? I'm > having a hard time searching, because a lot of apps don't specify what they > mean when they say they can be fine-tuned, and they usually don't mean > this. I'd *like* it if I could get at least one decimal place; two would be > even better. > > I figure some of you work with tuners a lot, and might have some tips. > > Thanks for the help! > > A > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > > I do not fully understand what you're looking for, but here are the best suggestions I could find: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.netigen.toolstuner https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonosaurus.tonalenergytuner https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.istrobosoft.tuner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9bIQT43EIA Please excuse the noise if these are not useful. Good luck, Ralph -- Ralph Palmer Brattleboro, VT USA palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: OT: high-precision tuner app
On Mon, 23 May 2016 19:38:13 +0200 "N. Andrew Walsh" wrote: According to the documentation of DA Tuner: http://www.applaudapps.net/?page_id=18 Custom temperaments can be applied to DaTuner. You can also provide your own custom temperament files – after the first execution of DaTuner a .csv will be created, and you can manually open this and add your own temperaments using a computer or local file editor. Is that what you are looking for? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Switching the direction of slurs in tupletBracketToSlur (from Re: Unknown marking in Roman print (1710))
2016-05-23 16:27 GMT+02:00 Richard Shann :
> On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 10:13 +0200, Simon Albrecht wrote:
>> On 22.05.2016 23:29, Richard Shann wrote:
>> > I wonder did my email "Switching
>> > the direction of slurs in tupletBracketToSlur" get overlooked or is
>> > there no way that a direction can be set to be the opposite to the stems
>> > and beams direction?
>>
>> Certainly it hasn’t been overlooked, and there is a way to do it.
>
> Spurred on by your confidence that it can be done I dug into it
>
> #(define (invert-direction x) (if (eq? UP (ly:tuplet-bracket::calc-direction
> x)) DOWN UP))
> \override TupletBracket.direction = #invert-direction
>
> seems to do the trick.
Even more concise:
#(define (invert-direction grob)
(* -1 (ly:tuplet-bracket::calc-direction grob)))
> If anyone knows of a problem with this code,
> please say,
Well, as soon as polyphonic happens it will produce strange output, see:
mus = {
\override TupletBracket.bracket-visibility = ##t
\override TupletBracket.direction = #invert-direction
\tuplet 3/2 { a'8 b c }
\tuplet 3/2 { r8 d e }
\tuplet 3/2 { r8 r f, }
\tuplet 3/2 { g, a'' r }
\tuplet 3/2 { c,,8 c c }
\tuplet 3/2 { r8 c c }
\tuplet 3/2 { r8 r c }
\tuplet 3/2 { c c'' r }
}
\new Staff
<<
\new Voice \relative c'' { \voiceOne \mus }
\new Voice \relative c { \voiceTwo \mus }
>>
> otherwise could it be a simpler replacement for
>
> http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Snippet?id=860
>
> which seems to be trying to achieve the same thing?
Indeed.
860 was one of my early codings, far too complicated thinking.
Actually it redefines parts of `ly:tuplet-bracket::calc-direction' ...
Otoh, it is aware of kneed-beams, sort of.
Though, it has the same problem as mentioned above and I'm not sure
how to avoid it.
Cheers,
Harm
___
lilypond-user mailing list
lilypond-user@gnu.org
https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: high-precision tuner app
Mi Mats, Take a look at PitchLab, which already has a long list of built-in historical temperaments and lets you specify your own (see also http://polettipiano.com/wordpress/?page_id=1029). that app only seems to allow me to pre-set a temperament with 12 distinct pitches to the octave. I'm using a system of scales with over 180 distinct pitches (and which is theoretically unlimited; I just chose to stop there). > > > > > Hi Phil, > > thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, it's iOS-only (I'm on Android), and > doesn't seem to allow finer tuning than whole cents values. > Also, to answer Phil's reply, I don't have Windows. I run gentoo Linux on my computers, and cyanogenmod Android on the smartphone. Cheers, A ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: high-precision tuner app
N. Andrew Walsh gmail.com> writes: > > > Hi Phil, > thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, it's iOS-only (I'm on Android), and doesn't seem to allow finer tuning than whole cents values. > > alas! But thanks regardless. Take a look at PitchLab, which already has a long list of built-in historical temperaments and lets you specify your own (see also http://polettipiano.com/wordpress/?page_id=1029). /Mats ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: high-precision tuner app
Hi Phil, thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, it's iOS-only (I'm on Android), and doesn't seem to allow finer tuning than whole cents values. alas! But thanks regardless. A On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 8:29 PM, Phil Burfitt wrote: > AP Tuner ? > http://www.aptuner.com > > > Phil. > > > - Original Message - > *From:* N. Andrew Walsh > *To:* lilypond-user > *Sent:* Monday, May 23, 2016 6:38 PM > *Subject:* OT: high-precision tuner app > > Hi List, > > I'm guessing somebody on the list might be able to help me with a somewhat > off-topic issue. > > For whatever reason (or rather: see my previous posts to the list about my > interest in just intonation) I'm trying to find a tuning app capable of > tuning to very precisely-set reference pitches. That is, when dealing with > music in just intonation, it's very common to describe a pitch with > something like "C# -49.52c" where the latter part is a deviation in cents > from a standard reference pitch (which can also be set as "A440" or some > other tuning pitch [which is sometimes necessary when dealing with European > orchestras inexorably tuning themselves higher and higher to seem more > "flashy" or whatever]). I'm trying to find a (preferably free) Android app > that can be set as precisely as possible, and then provide visual feedback > to tune my instruments. > > I normally use a Peterson virtual strobe tuner, but the screen is failing, > and it gets wobbly if the pitch isn't from an organ or similarly stable > instrument. It oftentimes jumps from the tuning pitch to its fifth, and is > hard to read. > > Is there an app out there that has the capability I'm looking for? I'm > having a hard time searching, because a lot of apps don't specify what they > mean when they say they can be fine-tuned, and they usually don't mean > this. I'd *like* it if I could get at least one decimal place; two would be > even better. > > I figure some of you work with tuners a lot, and might have some tips. > > Thanks for the help! > > A > > -- > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: high-precision tuner app
AP Tuner ? http://www.aptuner.com Phil. - Original Message - From: N. Andrew Walsh To: lilypond-user Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 6:38 PM Subject: OT: high-precision tuner app Hi List, I'm guessing somebody on the list might be able to help me with a somewhat off-topic issue. For whatever reason (or rather: see my previous posts to the list about my interest in just intonation) I'm trying to find a tuning app capable of tuning to very precisely-set reference pitches. That is, when dealing with music in just intonation, it's very common to describe a pitch with something like "C# -49.52c" where the latter part is a deviation in cents from a standard reference pitch (which can also be set as "A440" or some other tuning pitch [which is sometimes necessary when dealing with European orchestras inexorably tuning themselves higher and higher to seem more "flashy" or whatever]). I'm trying to find a (preferably free) Android app that can be set as precisely as possible, and then provide visual feedback to tune my instruments. I normally use a Peterson virtual strobe tuner, but the screen is failing, and it gets wobbly if the pitch isn't from an organ or similarly stable instrument. It oftentimes jumps from the tuning pitch to its fifth, and is hard to read. Is there an app out there that has the capability I'm looking for? I'm having a hard time searching, because a lot of apps don't specify what they mean when they say they can be fine-tuned, and they usually don't mean this. I'd *like* it if I could get at least one decimal place; two would be even better. I figure some of you work with tuners a lot, and might have some tips. Thanks for the help! A -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: OT: high-precision tuner app
Hi Urs, Intunator does not seem to allow me to *set* the deviation in cents, which is what I need. That is, I need to pre-set the tuner to "B-flat minus 45.62 cents" or whatever, and then be able to use it to tune my instrument to match. Cheers, A On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Urs Liska wrote: > Intunator could be good for you. > > Am 23. Mai 2016 19:38:13 MESZ, schrieb "N. Andrew Walsh" < > n.andrew.wa...@gmail.com>: > >> Hi List, >> >> I'm guessing somebody on the list might be able to help me with a >> somewhat off-topic issue. >> >> For whatever reason (or rather: see my previous posts to the list about >> my interest in just intonation) I'm trying to find a tuning app capable of >> tuning to very precisely-set reference pitches. That is, when dealing with >> music in just intonation, it's very common to describe a pitch with >> something like "C# -49.52c" where the latter part is a deviation in cents >> from a standard reference pitch (which can also be set as "A440" or some >> other tuning pitch [which is sometimes necessary when dealing with European >> orchestras inexorably tuning themselves higher and higher to seem more >> "flashy" or whatever]). I'm trying to find a (preferably free) Android app >> that can be set as precisely as possible, and then provide visual feedback >> to tune my instruments. >> >> I normally use a Peterson virtual strobe tuner, but the screen is >> failing, and it gets wobbly if the pitch isn't from an organ or similarly >> stable instrument. It oftentimes jumps from the tuning pitch to its fifth, >> and is hard to read. >> >> Is there an app out there that has the capability I'm looking for? I'm >> having a hard time searching, because a lot of apps don't specify what they >> mean when they say they can be fine-tuned, and they usually don't mean >> this. I'd *like* it if I could get at least one decimal place; two would be >> even better. >> >> I figure some of you work with tuners a lot, and might have some tips. >> >> Thanks for the help! >> >> A >> >> -- >> >> lilypond-user mailing list >> lilypond-user@gnu.org >> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user >> >> > -- > Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail > gesendet. > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: OT: high-precision tuner app
Intunator could be good for you. Am 23. Mai 2016 19:38:13 MESZ, schrieb "N. Andrew Walsh" : >Hi List, > >I'm guessing somebody on the list might be able to help me with a >somewhat >off-topic issue. > >For whatever reason (or rather: see my previous posts to the list about >my >interest in just intonation) I'm trying to find a tuning app capable of >tuning to very precisely-set reference pitches. That is, when dealing >with >music in just intonation, it's very common to describe a pitch with >something like "C# -49.52c" where the latter part is a deviation in >cents >from a standard reference pitch (which can also be set as "A440" or >some >other tuning pitch [which is sometimes necessary when dealing with >European >orchestras inexorably tuning themselves higher and higher to seem more >"flashy" or whatever]). I'm trying to find a (preferably free) Android >app >that can be set as precisely as possible, and then provide visual >feedback >to tune my instruments. > >I normally use a Peterson virtual strobe tuner, but the screen is >failing, >and it gets wobbly if the pitch isn't from an organ or similarly stable >instrument. It oftentimes jumps from the tuning pitch to its fifth, and >is >hard to read. > >Is there an app out there that has the capability I'm looking for? I'm >having a hard time searching, because a lot of apps don't specify what >they >mean when they say they can be fine-tuned, and they usually don't mean >this. I'd *like* it if I could get at least one decimal place; two >would be >even better. > >I figure some of you work with tuners a lot, and might have some tips. > >Thanks for the help! > >A > > > > >___ >lilypond-user mailing list >lilypond-user@gnu.org >https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet.___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
OT: high-precision tuner app
Hi List, I'm guessing somebody on the list might be able to help me with a somewhat off-topic issue. For whatever reason (or rather: see my previous posts to the list about my interest in just intonation) I'm trying to find a tuning app capable of tuning to very precisely-set reference pitches. That is, when dealing with music in just intonation, it's very common to describe a pitch with something like "C# -49.52c" where the latter part is a deviation in cents from a standard reference pitch (which can also be set as "A440" or some other tuning pitch [which is sometimes necessary when dealing with European orchestras inexorably tuning themselves higher and higher to seem more "flashy" or whatever]). I'm trying to find a (preferably free) Android app that can be set as precisely as possible, and then provide visual feedback to tune my instruments. I normally use a Peterson virtual strobe tuner, but the screen is failing, and it gets wobbly if the pitch isn't from an organ or similarly stable instrument. It oftentimes jumps from the tuning pitch to its fifth, and is hard to read. Is there an app out there that has the capability I'm looking for? I'm having a hard time searching, because a lot of apps don't specify what they mean when they say they can be fine-tuned, and they usually don't mean this. I'd *like* it if I could get at least one decimal place; two would be even better. I figure some of you work with tuners a lot, and might have some tips. Thanks for the help! A ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: halfopenvertical script glyph not working
On 5/22/16 4:09 AM, "Thomas Morley" wrote: >2016-05-22 11:12 GMT+02:00 Daniel E. Moctezuma : > >> Do you know why "halfopenvertical" was not part of script.scm? > >Don't know. >Maybe file a bug-report > >-Harm I believe that I created the halfopenvertical character, but was unaware that it needed to be added to script.scm at the time I created it. At any rate, a patch has been uploaded for review, and a new issue has been added. Issue 4860: https://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/4860/ Thanks, Carl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Switching the direction of slurs in tupletBracketToSlur (from Re: Unknown marking in Roman print (1710))
On Mon, 2016-05-23 at 10:13 +0200, Simon Albrecht wrote: > On 22.05.2016 23:29, Richard Shann wrote: > > I wonder did my email "Switching > > the direction of slurs in tupletBracketToSlur" get overlooked or is > > there no way that a direction can be set to be the opposite to the stems > > and beams direction? > > Certainly it hasn’t been overlooked, and there is a way to do it. Spurred on by your confidence that it can be done I dug into it #(define (invert-direction x) (if (eq? UP (ly:tuplet-bracket::calc-direction x)) DOWN UP)) \override TupletBracket.direction = #invert-direction seems to do the trick. If anyone knows of a problem with this code, please say, otherwise could it be a simpler replacement for http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Snippet?id=860 which seems to be trying to achieve the same thing? Richard ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Typesetting a Bach Ornament; Sarabande, French Suite 5
Hi Simon, You yourself mention Henle’s critical apparatus is poor. Henle is not well regarded in terms of scholarly excellence. And their editions are full of mistakes. Their so called ‘urtext’ editions are far from it, and as for providing piano fingering for Bach harpsichord works, it leaves me dumbfounded. [One of the nice things about their new app is that you can _remove_ the fingerings – something I suppose the publishers did not think was a benefit, but it is!] And furthermore, the engraving is nowhere near as good as Lilypond! Re BWV 815, I am going with Bach’s own MS, not Henle. The several other copies by various copyists may have additional marks, but that’s not what Bach wrote in this case. Andrew On 23/05/2016, 6:11 PM, "Simon Albrecht" wrote: > >I think you’re being a bit too rash here. The Henle ‘Urtext’ edition I >have here also has the appoggiatura, written as in Harm’s second >version, and although the Critical Report is laughable in that it >doesn’t even list the sources used I’m sure there is a source from >Bach’s environment that has the ornament, and it’s likely too easy to >just say ‘the autograph is what Bach definitely intended’. >Sorry I can’t say more, maybe I’ll have a look at the NBA at the library. > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Typesetting a Bach Ornament; Sarabande, French Suite 5
> On 23 May 2016, at 02:48, Andrew Bernard wrote: > Do you want to do that or do you want to get close to what Bach wrote? If you > look at the Bach autograph of this piece, available in the Digital Bach > Archive, you will see not only no nachschlag there but hardly any phrasing > slurs, and definitely not the dotted one in your sample image. Listening in to [1], I think it has been added by the editor to indicate that the ornament should start on the auxiliary, the note above the written note, as was done in the Baroque period. It sounds it is played as an ordinary Baroque trill (my dictionary says the pralltriller was introduced later by C.P.E. Bach). 1. http://imslp.org/wiki/6_French_Suites,_BWV_812-817_(Bach,_Johann_Sebastian) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Unknown marking in Roman print (1710)
On 22.05.2016 23:29, Richard Shann wrote: I wonder did my email "Switching the direction of slurs in tupletBracketToSlur" get overlooked or is there no way that a direction can be set to be the opposite to the stems and beams direction? Certainly it hasn’t been overlooked, and there is a way to do it. Only noone yet felt like looking for it, or had time. Best, Simon ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Typesetting a Bach Ornament; Sarabande, French Suite 5
On 23.05.2016 02:48, Andrew Bernard wrote: Do you want to do that or do you want to get close to what Bach wrote? If you look at the Bach autograph of this piece, available in the Digital Bach Archive, you will see not only no nachschlag there but hardly any phrasing slurs, and definitely not the dotted one in your sample image. The ornament in your edition is an editorial insertion Hi Andrew, I think you’re being a bit too rash here. The Henle ‘Urtext’ edition I have here also has the appoggiatura, written as in Harm’s second version, and although the Critical Report is laughable in that it doesn’t even list the sources used I’m sure there is a source from Bach’s environment that has the ornament, and it’s likely too easy to just say ‘the autograph is what Bach definitely intended’. Sorry I can’t say more, maybe I’ll have a look at the NBA at the library. Best, Simon ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
