Re: Yamaha recall
On 21 mrt 2010, at 18:34, Valentin Villenave wrote: On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Hans Aberg haber...@telia.com wrote: Though off-topic, it is pretty funny to those interested in music. http://tinyurl.com/ygqt45q LOL -- funny indeed. I'm Fwding it to devel-chat :-) There seems to be a dischord there A.J. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Dumb Emacs lilypond-mode question
On 28 feb 2010, at 08:11, James Bailey wrote: If I remember correctly, GUI apps don't by default load your $PATH, there's a trick somewhere to get them to do it, I just don't remember where or how. But that may be what you need. The trick is not very simple. To have full control over your environment variables, like $PATH, you need the file environment.plist in the ~/.MacOSX directory. Here's my environment.plist. Please adjust it to your settings, because using it unmodified is asking for trouble. After changing it, you need to log out an log in to effectuate those changes. environment.plist Description: Binary data However, this method can interfere with desktop apps that want some default library, instead one on your modified path. So what I do most of the time is to open a Terminal.app and issue the `open /Applications/Emacs.app' command. This gives me a GUI Emacs with terminal environment. HTH, Arjan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Dumb Emacs lilypond-mode question
On 28 feb 2010, at 06:46, Tim McNamara wrote: I've had lilypond-mode working in Emacs for a year now, using Carbon Emacs on Mac OS X 10.4. Works great, kuds to whomever wrote the mode. I just built the latest Emacs 23.1 to give it a try; it initially didn't work with Lilypond at all until I remembered I had to add the lilypond-mode .el files to site-lisp inside Emacs.app. So, did that and lilypond-mode is automatically loaded when I open a .ly file. Yay. Everything looks fine, syntax coloring works, etc. However, I can't compile. C-c C-l results in Compilation exited abnormally with code 127 (paraphrasing from memory here; there's also a /bin/bash complaint too). Interestingly C-c C-s launches the designated PDF viewer (Preview) just fine, if I open a .ly file that has already been compiled and has a rendered PDF already. This is not a new issue, when I tried to set up Carbon Emacs about a year ago I had the same problem... but I can't remember the fix and hence that is the dumb part of my question. I haven't been able to track the fix down in the archives of the lilypond-user list, which is where I got the fix last year IIRC. Can anybody point me in the right direction? Tim, You can also customize Lilypond `M-x customize-group Lilypond' and change the `Lilypond lilypond Command' to something on your GUI path. HTH, Arjan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond on iPhone
On 4 feb 2010, at 21:53, Dave Addey wrote: Hi all, I’m wondering if anyone has built or tried to build the Lilypond library for the iPhone platform, to render engraved music on an iPhone-OS-powered device? I’m considering this for an upcoming project, and wanted to ask a few questions before diving in to trying it myself. Here goes: 1) How do you rate my chances of getting Lilypond to compile for the ARM-based iPhone OS, especially given the number of libraries it depends on? 2) Would there be any licensing issues in using Lilypond (and dependent libraries) in a paid app on a closed platform such as the iPhone? IIRC, the iPhone developer license states that it does not allow any interpreters on the iPhone. That's how they keep flash off the iPhone, but also for example, a Commodore 64 emulator. And since, as we all know, you can do anything in lilypond, thanks to the guile interpreter, my guess is that a LilyPond iPhone App won't make it to the App Store. But it would be a nice challenge to get it working! Arjan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Strange page breaking issue in 2.13.10
On 4 jan 2010, at 17:57, Kieren MacMillan
kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote:
Hi Reinhold,
Unfortunately, after inserting this forced \pageBreak the scores
(except the
last), which before took only ~1.33 pages, suddently don't even fit
on 2 pages
any more, but need 3 pages!
+1
I've noticed this kind of thing [a lot!] for a number of versions
now — maybe starting 2.13.7 or so? — but haven't had the time to
make a minimal example.
Forced page breaks definitely wreak havoc, though the effect seems
to be minimized by changing the page-breaking mechansm (e.g.,
optimal- vs minimal-).
Any ideas how I can get this score on 4 pages, with
-) 1 Title page
-) 2 pages for the next 4 scores
-) 1 page for the final score
I ended up taking advantage of my layout functions:
pageBreaksForbid = { \override Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn #'page-
break-permission = ##f }
pageBreaksAllow = { \revert Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn #'page-break-
permission }
lineBreaksForbid = { \override Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn #'line-
break-permission = ##f }
lineBreaksAllow = { \revert Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn #'line-break-
permission }
It's a hassle to do this manually — especially on a 40+ page score
— but it was the only way to crank out the score in the required tim
e.
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
Kieren,
You're a life saver (or at least a score book saver). I'm having great
troubles with page breaking. So much that I've almost giving up on
lilypond.
As a guitarist I need both hands to play. I can't turn pages, so bad
page breaking makes a music engraver unusable.
I tried to make a minimal example, but it needed to be almost as
complex as my 40 scores in a 22 page book. So I gave up on page
breaking and lilypond. This might just bring me back.
Thank You so much!
Arjan
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Re: Compiling times on this file
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How to move StringNumber along Y-axis?
Dear list,
How do I move the StringNumber to below the Staff? I tried Y-offset
but that didn't work. As a test to see if I had the correct syntax, I
tried the X-offset and that /did/ work. Any ideas?
\version 2.12.2
\score {
\relative c'' {
%% This override does not move the StringNumber. X-offset does
work!
\override StringNumber #'Y-offset = #-10
c\31
}}
MoveStringNumber.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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Re: How to move StringNumber along Y-axis?
On 8 feb 2009, at 14:50, David Stocker wrote: Hi Arjan, \set stringNumberOrientations = #'(down) More complete information at http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Inside-the-staff#Fingering-instructions Stupid me was just looking at the technical information. I did not look at this part of the docs so I missed it. I did however peruse http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Fretted-string-instruments#Fretted-string-instruments because I was typesetting for a fretted string instrument (a guitar). And from there I went to the Lilypond internals. But this works beautifully. Thanks! Arjan Bos ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Umlaute
On 4 jan 2009, at 19:31, Hasi wrote:
Do any of you know how I can use Umlaute?
I'd like to do the following:
_\markup { \italic hartnäckig }
it just comes out as hartnckig
Hasi,
Please save the file with UTF-8 encoding. Most editors offer this
option on the save (as) menu.
If you need more help, please inform us of your OS, editor and
lilypond version.
HTH,
Arjan
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RE: warning: barcheck failed at: -5/8... but... WHERE?
On 1 jan 2009, at 22:22, Alberto Simões wrote: Hello I am having a strange error about barchecks. Current version of the document is at http://eremita.di.uminho.pt/~ambs/piano+voz.ly If anyone can help, I would appreciate. My output follows bellow. Thank you Alberto -- GNU LilyPond 2.12.1 Processing `piano+voz.ly' Parsing... Interpreting music... [8] piano+voz.ly:61:32: warning: barcheck failed at: -5/8 a4. a8 gis4 fis | Alberto, These errors are somehow caused by the \partial command. If I comment out all lines with \partial commands in them then I don't get any barcheck failures. And the -5/8 could be related to the \partial 8*5 commands. I wouldn't worry about it too much if I were you. The \partial command and the barchecks don't live well together. If your score is ok, then forget about the barcheck failures. The Known issues and warnings about partial is worth a look too: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Displaying-rhythms#index-_005cpartial-1 HTH, Arjan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to do a Barré in guitar music?
Back in February, I asked how to do a barré in guitar music as it is
shown in the following picture:inline: Barrégreep.png You can find the tread here:http://www.nabble.com/How-to-do-a-Barré-in-guitar-music--to15530453.html#a15530453
This type of drawing used for a `small' type of barré. Daniel Tonda
helpt me out wonderfully back then. I now want to take his solution a
step further. His solution was to use the arpeggioBracket on
hiddenNotes in a chord. I want to create a function that automates this.
However, I seem to be missing something, because the arpeggioBracket
is missing from the output of this function.
Am I heading in the correct direction?
Am I missing something?
Kind Regards,
Arjan Bos
\version 2.12.0
barreBracket = #(define-music-function (parser location chord)
(ly:music?)
#{ \hideNotes
\arpeggioBracket
\voiceThree
\once \override Arpeggio #'padding = #-1.5
$chord #(make-music (quote ArpeggioEvent))
\unHideNotes
#})
\score {
\context Staff
\context Voice {
{ \time 4/4 \key c \major
{ \barreBracket a' d''4 } a'4 d''4
}
}
}
On 18 feb 2008, at 06:09, Arjan Bos wrote:
On 17 feb 2008, at 19:24, Daniel Tonda wrote:
2008/2/17, Daniel Tonda daniel.to...@gmail.com: You're absolutely
right, I forgot about the accidentals, but they should also be
transparent.
:)
Even better, remove the accidental and the barre will be a bit
closer to the notes.
Thanks a lot! I never thought to mis-use the arpeggio for this.
Works like a charm!
A.J.
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Re: Compiling on Mac OS X - succes!
On 28 dec 2008, at 22:03, Kim Shrier wrote: The problem you are seeing: Assertion failed: (pt-read_pos == pt-read_end), function scm_fill_input, file ports.c, line 978. has to do with a bug in the scheme code that was fixed yesterday afternoon. If you update your source from the git repository, it should work now. Also, a better way to handle the problem with configure finding the wrong FlexLexer.h file is to add the line: FLEXLEXER_FILE = /opt/local/include/FlexLexer.h to local.make. This way when you run the configure script, you will not need to edit config.make anymore as the value in local.make will override it. One other problem you will run into is that the Century Schoolbook fonts will not be found and you need to give configure some help. When I run configure, I use the following parameter: ./configure --with-ncsb-dir=/opt/local/share/ghostscript/fonts I have successfully built lilypond on 10.5 intel. To summarize the steps: 1. Get the latest sources from the git repository. 2. Edit local.make to set the FLEXLEXER_FILE variable. 3. Make sure that /opt/local/bin is in $PATH before /usr/bin 4. make distclean 5. ./configure --with-ncsb-dir=/opt/local/share/ghostscript/fonts 6. make all 7. sudo make install Kim Kim, I tried all that, but unfortunately, I got the following reply from `make all': flex -Cfe -p -p -oout/lexer.cc lexer.ll lexer.ll:595: multiple EOF rules for start condition longcomment lexer.ll:621: warning, rule cannot be matched lexer.ll:624: warning, rule cannot be matched lexer.ll:693: warning, -s option given but default rule can be matched rm -f ./out/lexer.dep; DEPENDENCIES_OUTPUT=./out/lexer.dep ./out/ lexer.o g++ -c -Woverloaded-virtual -I/System/Library/Frameworks/ Python.framework/Versions/2.5/include/python2.5 -I/System/Library/ Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/include/python2.5 -fno-strict- aliasing -Wno-long-double -no-cpp-precomp -mno-fused-madd -fno-common - dynamic -DNDEBUG -g -Os -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -DMACOSX -I/usr/ include/ffi -DENABLE_DTRACE -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DNDEBUG -I./include -I./ out -I../flower/include -I../flower/./out -I../flower/include -O2 - finline-functions -g -pipe -I/opt/local/include -I/opt/local/include - D_THREAD_SAFE -I/opt/local/include/freetype2 -I/opt/local/include - I/opt/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/opt/local/include/freetype2 -I/opt/ local/include -I/opt/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/opt/local/lib/glib-2.0/ include -Wno-pmf-conversions -W -Wall -Wconversion -o out/lexer.o out/lexer.cc cc1plus: warning: command line option -Wstrict-prototypes is valid for C/ObjC but not for C++ ./out/FlexLexer.h:130: error: expected unqualified-id before numeric constant make[1]: *** [out/lexer.o] Error 1 So, I removed line 130 in /opt/local/include/FlexLexer.h: // virtual int yywrap(); Then I did a make clean make all And everything works! So Kim, Thanks a lot for making the Lilypond Mac OS X 10.5 place a lot brighter. Arjan Oh, and by the way: zfRp:/usr/local/src/lilypond/lilypond ajb$ which flex /opt/local/bin/flex ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Compiling on Mac OS X
On 28 dec 2008, at 22:03, Kim Shrier wrote: The problem you are seeing: Assertion failed: (pt-read_pos == pt-read_end), function scm_fill_input, file ports.c, line 978. has to do with a bug in the scheme code that was fixed yesterday afternoon. If you update your source from the git repository, it should work now. Also, a better way to handle the problem with configure finding the wrong FlexLexer.h file is to add the line: FLEXLEXER_FILE = /opt/local/include/FlexLexer.h to local.make. This way when you run the configure script, you will not need to edit config.make anymore as the value in local.make will override it. One other problem you will run into is that the Century Schoolbook fonts will not be found and you need to give configure some help. When I run configure, I use the following parameter: ./configure --with-ncsb-dir=/opt/local/share/ghostscript/fonts I have successfully built lilypond on 10.5 intel. To summarize the steps: 1. Get the latest sources from the git repository. 2. Edit local.make to set the FLEXLEXER_FILE variable. 3. Make sure that /opt/local/bin is in $PATH before /usr/bin 4. make distclean 5. ./configure --with-ncsb-dir=/opt/local/share/ghostscript/fonts 6. make all 7. sudo make install Kim Kim, Many thanks for helping us out! I will try this later tonight. Arjan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: also, lyric help
On 26 dec 2008, at 21:35, James E. Bailey wrote:
Try:
upperVoice = \relative c'' {
%
c8 d e4 f g |
c8 d e4 f g |
c8 d e4 f g |
c8 d e4 f g |
}
lowerVoice = \relative c' {
%
s1 |
c8[ d] e4 f g |
s1 |
c8[ d] e4 f g
}
textOne = \lyricmode {
% You know how to write ly -- rics, don’t you?
}
textTwo = \lyricmode {
% You know how to write ly -- rics, don’t you?
}
\score {
\context Staff = Upper
\context Voice = one \upperVoice
\lyricsto one \new Lyrics { \textOne }
\context Staff = Lower
\context Voice = two \lowerVoice
\lyricsto two \new Lyrics { \textTwo }
}
Maybe that's oldfashioned, but it works for me (with 2.10.33).
I knew I would have to get into explaining this. There is no
nesting. What I have are two verses, say,
{\autoBeamOff c8 d e4 f g}
and in the second verse,
{\autoBeamOff c8[ d] e4 f g}.
Engraving that isn't really a problem
\relative {\autoBeamOff {\voiceOne c8 d } \new Voice {\voiceTwo
c8[ d] }\oneVoice e4 f g}
That's fine. I have it happening tons of times. The problem is then
having lyrics automatically align to these notes. Usually I just
name my voice context and be done with it:
\relative {
\context Voice = unbeamed notes
\autoBeamOff
{ \voiceone c8 d}
\context Voice = beamed notes { \voiceTwo c8[ d] }
\oneVoice e4 f g
}
And then I automatically add text to it, using the above method.
Problem is, with it happening 10 or more times in a single piece,
I'm having problems aligning all of the lyrics to the appropriate
notes.
Well, the way I do this is by doing exactly what Henning proposed:
split your (almost) implicit voices in explicit, separate voices. The
only problem I then have is filling up the second voice with enough
spacer notes so that they are position correctly. I augmented the
proposal with a few notes so as to make my idea clear. This makes the
alignment of lyrics to notes automatically correct.
HTH,
Arjan
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Re: rearrange music flow
On 26 dec 2008, at 18:41, Antanas Budriūnas wrote:
Hello Lily-users,
after few arrangements and engraving from my own manuscripts I'm
trying to move my composing work to Lilypond (without paper sheets). I
guess this is rare but IMHO worth to try.
Till now I puzzle over a problem each time when I need several
measures from one place in the score (all parts together, maybe with
lyrics) repeat somewhere in the middle of the piece or rearrange music
flow in general.
Some advance can be a naming (variables) relatively small chunks of
music, each bar or so. But this way source reading becomes
complicated.
I can imagine some intermediate element between Staff (StaffGroup) and
Score in the Lilypond hierarchy, which includes sevaral staves but
neither starts new line nor puts clef, key and time signature.
Maybe I'm missing something and a way does exist in Lilypond to
achieve such flexibility? (Sorry I'm not so brave to dive into Scheme
coding).
Hi Antanas,
Perhaps I'm not understanding your question, but it is possible to put
almost everything in variables, including whole scores. So I'm very
confident that it is possible to put something like:
\version 2.11.65
tenorVoice = \context Voice { \relative c'' { a4 b c d }}
tenorStaff = \context Staff { \tenorVoice }
\score { \tenorStaff }
Will this help you?
Regards,
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Re: also, lyric help
On 27 dec 2008, at 10:45, James E. Bailey wrote: How is a voice (almost) implicit? I explicitly create the first voice unbeamed notes and then I explicitly create the second voice beamed notes. Both voices are explicitly created. Mmm, My Bad. Entschuldigung. You do explicitly create two voices. What I meant was voices created in the score block instead of creating a new voice inside another voice. The problem I have is that when I switch between voices in my melody, the lyrics don't pick up when the voice comes back. Is that a bug? I've got no idea if that's a bug or not, but the way I work around it is by having two \context Voice statements in my \score block. One for the unbeamed notes and one for the beamed notes. This allows me to attach the lyrics with \lyricsto o the voice with the unbeamed notes, just like the examples in the NR 2.1.3 Aligning lyrics to a melody. Maybe I don't understand voice or lyrics contexts, but I read that things are carried over in a voice context. Bah. I guess I'll just do this the long way. Kind regards, Arjan Bos ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Fwd: Compiling on Mac OS X
On 27 dec 2008, at 21:07, August Lilleaas wrote: I were doing this on HEAD. Changed to 2.10.9-1, and (for some reason) doing make, then make all (both yielding errors) and then make worked. After running a couple of minutes, though, this happened: out/lexer.cc:384: error: no 'int yyFlexLexer::yywrap()' member function declared in class 'yyFlexLexer' Am I the only person that wants to run lilypond on a modern intel mac, or have I overlooked something? I'm having the same problem. What I did to solve this is removing the line containing yywrap in FlexLexer.h. If you've been following Nicolas' guidelines, then that file is: /opt/local/include/FlexLexer.h and the line-number is arround 130 I tried this with HEAD and I get the following: Processing `/usr/local/src/lilypond/lilypond/ly/generate- documentation.ly' Parsing...[/usr/local/src/lilypond/lilypond/out/share/lilypond/current/ ly/init.lyAssertion failed: (pt-read_pos == pt-read_end), function scm_fill_input, file ports.c, line 978. /bin/sh: line 1: 21318 Abort trap /usr/local/src/lilypond/ lilypond/out/bin/lilypond --verbose /usr/local/src/lilypond/lilypond/ ly/generate-documentation And now I'm at a loss, because I don't have a ports.c file on my computer (according to locate) Can someone chime in here please? Or should I take my quest for Intel Mac OS X Lilypond to a developer list? Kind regards, Arjan Bos ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Segmentation fault on file with bookparts
On 15 dec 2008, at 20:11, Tim Reeves wrote: Also ran successfully here on Win XP SP2, Lilypond 2.11.65, with many warnings. (different from above warnings!) Here on Mac OSX 10.5.5 with lilypond 2.11.65 I also get a whole host of warnings and errors. Most of them are due to font issues: lilypondoutput.log Description: Binary data HTH, Arjan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Parser error when including file
On 22 nov 2008, at 00:28, Johan Vromans wrote: Yes it may seem weird, but it is logical. It certainly seems weird and I can understand why it is. And I know it is very hard to write good parsing error messages, but if I now jump to the error, it jumps away from my typo into a perfectly correct file. And I can't help but wondering that it might be very useful if the error was pointing at the file with the actual error in it instead of pointing at a perfectly correct file. Sigh, it seems I just have to live with it. Thanks anyway for your reply, Arjan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Parser error when including file
Dear list, I have the following two files: includeError.ly: \version 2.11.63 #(define RH rightHandFinger) and includedError.ly: y\version 2.11.63 \include includedError.ly And if I compile the second file, the parser tells me that the first file is missing an '='. includedError.ly:2:0: error: syntax error, unexpected SCM_TOKEN, expecting '='. This is of course because of the extra `y' in the first position of the first line ofe includedError.ly It would be helpful if either the correct file is targeted, that the weird init.ly error is thrown. Is this something I have to learn to live with or is it within the possibilities of the developers to create a more descriptive error message? Met vriendelijke groenten, Arjan Bos includeError.ly Description: Binary data includedError.ly Description: Binary data ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Fwd: Parser error when including file
From: Arjan Bos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 21 november 2008 23:03:02 GMT+01:00 To: Jan van Dijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Parser error when including file Yes you are right, and I perfectly understand the error. However, the error is signalled in the other file! And sadly, this is not really useful when debugging my score. I see that I mixed up the names, but a typo in file A.ly leads to an error message in file B.ly when file B.ly is included in A.ly. Hope this clarifies the issue a bit. Arjan On 21 nov 2008, at 22:48, Jan van Dijk wrote: Dear Arjan, Your file includedError starts with the declaration of a variable: y Hereafter lilypond expects an = For example: y = test I think the y is a typo. When you remove this letter, your problem should be solved. Kind regards, Jan van Dijk. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to create a double glissando?
On 23 okt 2008, at 17:55, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Arjan, all within the same voice You can attach each gliss to hidden notes in two separate Voice contexts and then combine them into the Staff with the other two Voices (which contain the visible notes). But otherwise you can't do it in Lilypond, I think… Ok, thanks, I'll try it! Arjan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to create a double glissando?
On 23 okt 2008, at 17:55, Kieren MacMillan wrote:
Hi Arjan,
all within the same voice
You can attach each gliss to hidden notes in two separate Voice
contexts and then combine them into the Staff with the other two
Voices (which contain the visible notes).
But otherwise you can't do it in Lilypond, I think…
This is my solution. Note that the hidden notes share the same voice,
voiceTwo, and that it is a different voice from the the `real' notes.
This automatically merges the noteheads of the hidden notes with the
ones they replace. Otherwise an ugly gap appears between the `real'
note and the start of the glissando.
\version 2.11.62
\score {
\relative c'' {
\time 3/2
%% double glissando
{ \voiceOne r8 e a e g d g d e c e c | } \\
{ \hideNotes \voiceTwo s4 a'4\glissando g8 s s4 s4 s4
\unHideNotes | } \\
{ \hideNotes \voiceTwo s8 s4 e4\glissando d8 s4 s4 s4
\unHideNotes | } \\
{ \voiceFour a,1. }
}
}
So Kieran, thanks a lot for pointing me in the right direction!
Arjan
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How to create a double glissando?
Dear list, I would feel priviliged if I can tap into your wealth of knowledge on all things lilypond. The thing that's bugging me at the moment is that I cannot figure out how to create a double glissando where the first glissando goes from note 2 to note 4 and the second glissando goes from note 3 to note 5, all within the same voice. This is a silent glissando that's meant to indicate that the guitar player's fingers slide up or down a fret. Please see attached picture for an example. inline: double glissando.png Kind Regards, Arjan Bos___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: another emacs osx question
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Re: substitution with \movement
On 11 jun 2008, at 23:48, Graham Percival wrote:
Rewriting the parser for such a trivial thing would be a waste of
resources. Just get used to typing #, just like {} or ,' or any
other piece of lilypond input. The docs are supposed to use #
all the time, to reinforce this point.
If it were only for `#' denoted strings, I agree with you, but there
are plenty of other inconsistencies in the LilyPond syntax that are
fully understandable from the viewpoint of the program, but make
almost no sense from the user's. For example, I do understand the
differences between \set \override and \tweak and when to apply them.
The differences have to do with the type of objects you're dealing
with. But I don't know those by heart. I have to look up which one it
is everytime I need an \override or \set or \tweak. When rewriting the
parser / lexer to do more work for us, it would be nice to see these
three commands unified into one and have LilyPond figure out which one
to apply. And I'm sure others have similar examples.
And, to make it clear, I'm font of the scheme expandability of
LilyPonds syntax, it's just that maintaining a source-file with lot's
of strings in them can be very awkward.
But to reiterate, this might be a lot of work. So this would be
something to think about for the next year or so and only then perhaps
implement.
Groeten,
Arjan
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Re: substitution with \movement
May I chime in a bit here? This prodding of the scheme interpreter is
one of the few things I do not like in the lilypond syntax. I do love
LilyPond and as a programmer at heart, I adore its syntax. However, as
a programmer, it is my duty to let the computer do the work instead of
the user. This resonates badly with the scheme intergration in the
lilypond syntax. To my mind, it should be possible for the parser or
lexer to do a lot more work so that the scheme interpreter is woken-up
automatically instead of being prompted by a token in the syntax. This
will result in a much cleaner .ly files.
I'm sure we've all had that feeling. Starting of with typesetting a
simple melody and then enhancing the lay-out bit by bit until the
notes are buried underneath a stack of lay-out commands. I do my best
to separate lay-out from content, but there are situations where this
is either not possible (like in fingering instructions) or not
advisable (like with the dynamics). Opening up one of my guitar
scores, I am daunted by the fact that it looks so complicated that I
need lots of comments not to get lost.
I am fully aware that it will be a lot of work on the developers side
to implement this. But please consider it. Let it burn on the back-
stove for a while, let it stew and when you are ready, please consider
implementing it. It would make the source-code of our nice looking
scores so much simpler to read. (And yes, I did consider doing it
myself, but I'm more a COBOL-guy ;-) )
Kind regards,
Arjan
On 11 jun 2008, at 12:33, Valentin Villenave wrote:
2008/6/11 Stefan Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
But unfortunately this doesn't work:
langsamer = { \movement subito meno mosso 4 #69 }
You have to add a # before each quoted string:
langsamer = { \movement #subito meno mosso #4 #69 }
It's in order to tell the Scheme interpreter: hey, wake up! Here's a
string for you!
Cheers,
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How to show a small glissando?
Dear list,
Could someone please show me how to make a \glissando appear when the
notes are very close to each other?
See this small example:
\version 2.11.45
\paper { ragged-right = ##t } %% makes the first \glissando disappear
\score {
\relative c'' {
es8\glissando d4.~ d2 \glissando |
e1 |
}
}
inline: Disappearing Glissando.png
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Re: How to show a small glissando?
Thanks Mats,
I looked at the Internal Reference Manual, but I would never have
guessed the solution. But it worked like a charm.
Arjan
On 22 mei 2008, at 13:04, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
If you add the following two lines before the first note, the note
spacing will be adjusted, when
necessary, to give each glissando a minimum length (which is long
enough that it's also printed).
\override Glissando #'springs-and-rods = #ly:spanner::set-spacing-rods
\override Glissando #'minimum-length = #4
/Mats
Arjan Bos wrote:
Dear list,
Could someone please show me how to make a \glissando appear when
the notes are very close to each other?
See this small example:
\version 2.11.45
\paper { ragged-right = ##t } %% makes the first \glissando disappear
\score {
\relative c'' {
es8\glissando d4.~ d2 \glissando |
e1 |
}
}
Thanks in advance,
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Small crescendo documentation improvement suggestion
Hi list,
I just tried to make a cresc. poco - - - crescendo in version
2.11.46. Since I had no clue how to do it, I went to the
documentation. And thanks to the new structure finding the correct
page was a breeze. It's on page http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Dynamics#Dynamics
However, the suggested solution did not work.
This is in the documentation:
\version 2.11.46
\relative c' {
\set crescendoText = \markup { \italic cresc. poco }
\set crescendoSpanner = #'dotted-line
a'2\ a a a a a a a\!\mf
}
And this is what worked
\relative c' {
\set crescendoText = \markup { \italic cresc. poco }
\set crescendoSpanner = #'text
\override DynamicTextSpanner #'style = #'dotted-line
a'2\ a a a a a a a\!\mf
}
Is this a bug in LilyPond or in the docs?
Greetings,
Arjan Bos
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Re: emacs mode test file
James, AFAIK there is no such file. Maybe there should be one for regression- testing purposes? Perhaps the best way to go is to start with your own files and fix all the colouring options. However, I don't know how familiar you are with the emacs variety of lisp, elisp, but as you know lilypond ships with a complete emacs mode. You could try to read that in order to re-create it for nano. Basically the file lilypond-font-lock.el defines the different levels of colouring. Looking at it, the colouring is split into several regexp's that evaluate to a face. And a face is basically a colour and some other markup on a font. So you could create an index per font-lock-*-face and check what it does. This could give you a head start on what types of syntax get which colours. Oh, and it uses a generated file for the keywords called lilypond- words.el. Perhaps you could build on that? HTH, Arjan On 9 mei 2008, at 08:54, James E. Bailey wrote: is there a file that shows all of the pretty color options that the emacs mode shows? I may attempt a nanorc that does something similar, and I'd just like to know what options there are. Rather, I'd like to know what emacs does so I can emulate it somewhat. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: crash on 10.4.11
If, as you say, the size has doubled, then it looks either like it has become a universal binary or that it has debugging info in it. Does it still work from the Terminal.app? Arjan Sent from my iPod On 27-apr-2008, at 0:24, Stan Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 26, 2008, at 4:54 PM, Graham Percival wrote: 2.11.45 works on on *Intel* OSX 10.4.11. I guess the ppc build is broken. Thanks to all for the confirmation. Not so cheery, Stan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Building Lilypond for Leopard (calling Nicholas Sceaux)
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Re: choir music, easy piano reduction and dynamics
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Re: choir music, easy piano reduction and dynamics
On 1 apr 2008, at 16:12, Mats Bengtsson wrote: Arjan Bos wrote: Ah, I remember that thread. It is what gave me this idea in the first place. The problem of centered dynamics crossing bar lines does not apply to most of my music, which is polyphonic classical guitar these days. It does however solve the problem of aligning the hairpins to last note in a sequence which can be in the upper or lower voice. My solution keeps all dynamics in one place instead of scattering them over my voices, thus helping maintainability and helping me in creating the desired length in hairpins. Yes, keeping them in a separate variable/identifier can be a good idea. What I questioned is if it's a good idea to keep them in a separate Voice context, which has nothing to do with the use of variables. Ah, that makes more sense! However, to me the dynamics are part of the whole piece of music and should be attached at Staff level, not at Voice level. So that's why I put them in a separate Voice. But I will keep your tips in mind when a problem crops up. Thanks, Arjan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
\arpeggioUp with connected voices
Dear List,
Could anyone please tell me how I can do an arrowed arpeggio with
\arpeggioUp when two voices share the arpeggio?
I've tried this (adjusted from http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Arpeggio#Arpeggio
):
\version 2.11.39
\score {
\new StaffGroup {
\set Score.connectArpeggios = ##t
\new Voice \relative c' {
\arpeggioUp
e g4\arpeggio
}
\new Voice \relative c {
\clef bass
\arpeggioUp
c e4\arpeggio
}
}
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\consists Span_arpeggio_engraver
}
}
}
but that gives an unarrowed arpeggio:
arpeggioUp.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
Thanks,
A.J.
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Re: Introducing OrchestralLily: A package to easily create complex orchestral scores in lilypond
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Re: Full bar rests in multi-voiced piano scores -- question and asuggestion
Hi, I normally use \oneVoice r4 \voiceOne in the first voice and s4 in the second voice. This makes the rest a normal (merged) rest instead of a rest belonging to a specific voice. HTH, Arjan On 25-feb-2008, at 11:50, Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi David I've made a note to add something about this in the section of the NR that deals with rests. I should get to that in the next few days. Trevor D -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+t.daniels=treda.co.u [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Fedoruk Sent: 25 February 2008 09:37 To: Lilypond mailing list Subject: Re: Full bar rests in multi-voiced piano scores -- question and asuggestion OK, I think that's partially what I am asking about. I would just never have found that myself. I would have asked the wrong question. I think that Zbynek and I might be asking the same question. Language is the barrier for both of us. Let me re-phrase my question to see if I understand this: Normally a half or whole rest sits on the middle line. The exception is where there are multiple voices on one staff. There is yet another exception to the exception. In piano music, even though there may be two voices which are resting, for clarity the two rests which would sit one above the other, are merged into one rest ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to do a Barré in guitar music?
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Re: Arpeggio in the wrong bar
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Arpeggio in the wrong bar
Hello,
Many thanks to the developers who made it possible to work with
Arpeggios over different voices. It works very well...
Except in 2.11.37 when fingering is applied to part of the chord. Then
the arpeggio mark is moved to the previous bar as in this almost
minimal example:
ArpeggioFingeringSmall.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
This only occurs when the arpeggio mark applies to a chord with
fingering in it and when that same arpeggio mark spans two or more
voices. Are there any ideas on this list on how to prevent it?
Many thanks in advance,
Arjan
And here's the source:
\version 2.11.37
\score {
\context Staff = guitar
\context Voice = guitarA {
\voiceOne
\set fingeringOrientations = #'(right)
\relative c'' {
\set Staff.connectArpeggios = ##t
a1 |
a-2 c-1 e2.\arpeggio e'4 |
}
}
\context Voice = guitarB {
\voiceTwo
\relative c' {
a2 g |
a2\arpeggio e |
}
}
\layout {
ragged-right = ##t %% otherwise the problem won't show.
\context {
\Staff
\consists Span_arpeggio_engraver
}
}
}
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Fwd: LILYPOND_DATADIR in 2.10
On 18 mrt 2007, at 5:32, Graham Percival wrote: Did you know that instead of editing your .profile to set environment variables for that specific bash session, I don't understand -- modifying .profile will effect the environment for every bash session. It will, but you will have to startup the Terminal.app in order to get the environment variables. I agree that .profile updating is simpler. But now your environment variables are set even if you start Lilypond, Emacs or jEdit from the Finder. you can set them globally for every program by creating a environment.plist in ~/.MacOSX with the following content: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? !DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC -//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd; plist version=1.0 dict keyPATH/key string/Users/arjanbos/bin:/sw/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin/string /dict /plist The bash way (ie the standard unix way) looks a lot simpler. In addition, anybody familiar with unix will already know how to do it. Cheers, - Graham --- They both savoured the strange warm glow of being much more ignorant than ordinary people, who were only ignorant of ordinary things. -- Discworld scientists at work (Terry Pratchett, Equal Rites) --- Nature abhors dimensional abnormalities, and seals them neatly away so that they don't upset people. Nature, in fact, abhors a lot of things, including vacuums, ships called the Marie Celeste, and the chuck keys for electric drills. -- (Terry Pratchett, Pyramids) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
How do I move a \markup down?
In the following snippet, the \markup is to far from the system.
%% -- snip
\version 2.10.20
%% uncommenting the next line will result in an error.
%%\override TextScript #'staff-padding = #0.1
\markup{\small 5. Variation (freier Anschlag)}
\score { d''4 }
%% -- snip
However, if I want to override either the padding or the staff-
padding, lilypond tells me that the \override is unexpected. So how
do I move down the markup?
Regards,
Arjan Bos
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Re: LILYPOND_DATADIR in 2.10
On 14 mrt 2007, at 21:38, Graham Percival wrote: Arjan Bos wrote: On 28 feb 2007, at 4:19, Graham Percival wrote: Dan Eble wrote: The NEWS for 2.11 says that The environment variable LILYPONDPREFIX has been renamed to LILYPOND_DATADIR. If that is new for 2.11, why are versions of 2.10 complaining about it? This is on Mac OS X 10.3 (PowerPC). Thanks for the report. This appears to be fixed in 2.10.20. Hi, I just downloaded 2.10.20-1 for MacOS X and I had to replace the following line in lilycall.py to fix the problem: # env['LILYPONDPREFIX'] = prefix + '/share/lilypond/current' env['LILYPOND_DATADIR'] = prefix + '/share/lilypond/current' Sorry, remind me how to trigger this -- I don't get any error messages when compiling a simple ly file with 2.10.20-1 on OSX Intel. I'm using the PowerPC 10.4 variety. In my path, I have ~\bin. In there I have a command called lilypond that calls # run the program python $INSTALLDIR/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/lilycall.py \ $INSTALLDIR/LilyPond.app/ $* where $INSTALLDIR is /Applications The lilycall.py in my version of 2.10.20-1 sets the environment value LILYPONDPREFIX and that triggers the error message. So when I just invoke lilypond from the command-line, it will invoke lilycall.py and it will issue the error message. It does this even without input: zaafMac:~ arjanbos$ lilypond GNU LilyPond 2.10.20 error: LILYPONDPREFIX is obsolete, use LILYPOND_DATADIR Making the change as suggested above yields: zaafMac:~ arjanbos$ lilypond GNU LilyPond 2.10.20 Usage: lilypond [OPTION]... FILE... (etc.) Perhaps my way of working under Mac OS X 10.4 is outdated. (... browsing through the docs ...) Ah, Indeed it appears that I have an outdated version of the lilypond script in my ~/bin. Does this mean that lilycall.py is obsolete? If so, then please remove it, or replace it with a message that says to update the ~/bin run scripts. By the way, Did you know that instead of editing your .profile to set environment variables for that specific bash session, you can set them globally for every program by creating a environment.plist in ~/.MacOSX with the following content: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? !DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC -//Apple Computer//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN http:// www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd plist version=1.0 dict keyPATH/key string/Users/arjanbos/bin:/sw/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/ usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin/string /dict /plist To add more environment variables, add the key and the string. Read http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/Command_Line_v10.4.pdf for more info, and search for environment.plist. HTH, Arjan --- Multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign of a sick mind -- (Terry Pratchett, Mort) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Fwd: What is a system?
Thanks to you both! On 14 mrt 2007, at 12:37, Robert Memering wrote: Am Mittwoch, 14. März 2007 12:05 schrieb David Bobroff: You almost had your answer with one line of music. In the case of a single staff instrument it is one line of music. For something like piano music it is one line of the grand staff. Likewise, for a conductor's score it is one line for everything in the score, often a single system per page. By the way: Traditional German (and Dutch?) terminology is different: A staff is a System, and a system is an Akkolade. However, it seems that System is increasingly used for a line of music (i.e. set of staves), like the English term. Regards, Robert ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
What is a system?
Dear list, For a few years now I've been working around this issue, but it finally caught on to me. It might be my lack of understanding of musical english, but: What is a System in for example between-system-padding? Is it one line of music? Is it one score? is it a set of bars? Is it everything that fits on one page? Could someone please point me to the right part of the documentation where system is defined in clear english? Thanks a lot, Arjan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
How to switch the articulation and the righthand fingering
Hi List,
I'm currently trying to typeset some old copies of Anton Stingls
guitar book 30 Lehrstücke in den leichten Tonarten. And I'm having
some troubles getting both the articulation and the righthand
fingering i on the same note in the order that I want it. No matter
what I try, the i is always above the and I want it the other
way around. Could someone please shine some light on what is going on
here?
\version 2.10.20
\score {
\new Staff {
\set strokeFingerOrientations = #'(up)
d''-\rightHandFinger #2 -
\once \override Script #'script-priority = #-100
d''-\rightHandFinger #2 -
\once \override StrokeFinger #'script-priority = #-100
d''-\rightHandFinger #2 -
\once \override StrokeFinger #'script-priority = #-100
d''--\rightHandFinger #2
}
}
Thanks in advance,
Arjan
btw: I really dig the new \rightHandFinger notation!
ScriptPriority.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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Re: LILYPOND_DATADIR in 2.10
On 28 feb 2007, at 4:19, Graham Percival wrote: Dan Eble wrote: The NEWS for 2.11 says that The environment variable LILYPONDPREFIX has been renamed to LILYPOND_DATADIR. If that is new for 2.11, why are versions of 2.10 complaining about it? This is on Mac OS X 10.3 (PowerPC). Thanks for the report. This appears to be fixed in 2.10.20. Hi, I just downloaded 2.10.20-1 for MacOS X and I had to replace the following line in lilycall.py to fix the problem: # env['LILYPONDPREFIX'] = prefix + '/share/lilypond/current' env['LILYPOND_DATADIR'] = prefix + '/share/lilypond/current' Groetjes, Arjan --- Multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign of a sick mind -- (Terry Pratchett, Mort) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lyrics and \skip
On 16 feb 2007, at 12:08, Dominic Neumann wrote:
Hi,
I have a song with two parts. The first has also one lyrics line (the
refrain). the second part has three lyrics lines (the verses). I have
the lyrics in the vars refrain, verseOne, verseTwo and verseThree.
If I try to add them via \addlyrics, all lyrics begin at the first
bar. Then I found the command \skip, but it only skips one note and
things like mentioned in the manual \skip 1*8 don´t work (also only
skip one note).
Is there a better way to do this than inserting hundreds of skips into
the lyrics?
Dominic
The solution proposed by Mats still completely eludes me. It does
something with the difference between \new lyrics and \context lyrics
and the differences are still not clear to me, even after using
lilypond for more than 2 years.
The solution I have is very simple. I just insert the following in
every .ly file and use some binary counting for my skips.
skipOne = \lyricmode { \skip 1 }
skipTwo = \lyricmode { \skipOne \skipOne }
skipFour = \lyricmode { \skipTwo \skipTwo }
skipSix = \lyricmode { \skipTwo \skipFour }
skipEight = \lyricmode {\skipFour \skipFour }
skipSixteen = \lyricmode {\skipEight \skipEight}
skipThirtytwo = \lyricmode {\skipSixteen \skipSixteen }
And if I then need a \skip 1 * 40 I simply insert a \skipThritytwo
\skipEight into my lyrics.
HTH,
Arjan
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Fwd: lilypond and editors
On 7 dec 2006, at 22:09, Thomas Scharkowski wrote: Just curious: what's wrong with jEdit? Thomas Remember: While all editors can save your files, only one can save your soul. (Per Abrahamsen on alt.religion.emacs) Arjan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: OS X question about Apple's Preview
On 7 dec 2006, at 21:33, Trevor Bača wrote: Hi, Not a direct Lily question, but useful nonetheless: Any OS X folks know how to tell Apple's Preview application -- from the commandline -- to close foo.pdf (but leave other pdfs open, ie, without actually killing the Preview process)? The most obvious way would be to use Applescript, unfortunately, Applescript isn't supported by Preview.app. But macworld.com has the solution: http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/macosxhints/2006/10/ previewscript/index.php Here they turn on Applescript from the command line with: defaults write /Applications/Preview.app/Contents/Info NSAppleScriptEnabled -bool YES And then you can close a window with: tell application Preview close window 1 end tell I have not yet used it, but presumably, every OS update that also updates Preview.app will override this setting back to the default. Some quick experimenting results in: tell application Preview repeat with i from 1 to number of windows set current_window to item i of windows set current_name to name of the document of the current_window if current_name is AdemVanEeuwigheid.pdf then close window i exit repeat end if end repeat end tell Where AdemVanEeuwigheid.pdf is a pdf of a lilypond score. Perhaps you can make this into a folder action that executes on the directory where your pdfs are created in? HTH, Arjan --- They both savoured the strange warm glow of being much more ignorant than ordinary people, who were only ignorant of ordinary things. -- Discworld scientists at work (Terry Pratchett, Equal Rites) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Music for the Martians?
Please find included the untested patch for more fingers. diff --git a/scm/output-lib.scm b/scm/output-lib.scm index 2978f3b..d92f30c 100644 --- a/scm/output-lib.scm +++ b/scm/output-lib.scm @@ -416,7 +416,7 @@ centered, X==1 is at the right, X == -1 (if ( digit 5) (ly:input-message (ly:event-property event 'origin) - Music for the martians)) + (string-append Warning: Fingering notation for finger number (number-string digit (number-string digit 10) )) And why it took so long: Mmph, Software hate alert! (Oh and please, do not answer this part as I won't react to it) Let me bore you with my rant on how to create a patch as requested: rant When trying to be helpful and create a patch, I noticed that the development switched from CVS to GIT. Why? Now I have to find out what git is, how it works and how to get it. First try Fink as that's the semi-default package manager on Darwin. It cannot connect to cvs to update itself. The error message tells me to try again later. Mmph, only later it still doesn't work. Turns out I have to run an update script that is almost guaranteed not to work and which should be babysitted for several hours. Hate. Then it turns out that Fink doesn't know about git either, so I have to get it myself. Grab the tar, put it in /usr/local/src/ and run ./configure. What? No configure? Why does it not adhere to some sane standards! Now I have to read the install file. Ok I have to run make configure first. Why didn't they do that for me in the release version? Hate. Make configure ./configure Make all docs make: *** [doc] Error 2. Turns out I don't have asciidoc and neither does fink. How stupid. So where do I find a correct version of asciidoc and why didn't ./configure tell me that I needed it? Hate. Where can I find has asciidoc? Stupid sourceforge has it which cannot handle its own bandwith. So I have to wait 25 minutes for it to download 743KBytes. On a 4Mbit ADSL line. I hate that! asciidoc requires python 2.4.2. How do I find out the version number? arjanbos$ python --version Unknown option: -- usage: python [option] ... [-c cmd | -m mod | file | -] [arg] ... Try `python -h' for more information. I hate that when programs don't adhere to sane standards. arjanbos$ python -V Python 2.4.2 I have to install it like this: $ su # ./install.sh What? I don't even have a root account enabled on this machine! Why do you want me to become root you stupid program! So asciidoc is installed, Will git compile now? make[1]: xmlto: Command not found make[1]: *** [git-add.1] Error 127 Please? What is xmlto? Luckily fink knows about it. And apparently, it has to install 35 extra packages to do some simple xml. Then I have to checkout the source-code from git. This takes ages! What is it doing? Why does it have to resolve 14885 deltas when it could just get me the latest source? So finally I'm in a position where I can find the message, make the change and be done with it. So let git show the diff git diff diff --git a/scm/output-lib.scm b/scm/output-lib.scm index 2978f3b..4e2ac2a 100644 --- a/scm/output-lib.scm +++ b/scm/output-lib.scm @@ -416,7 +416,7 @@ centered, X==1 is at the right, X == -1 (if ( digit 5) (ly:input-message (ly:event-property event 'origin) - Music for the martians)) + (string-append Warning: Fingering notation for finger (number-string digit 10) )) Wait a minute! This is not right, I'm missing all kinds of closing parentheses, plus the rest of my patch. Why can't the diff of git do a wrap like emacs does? Now I have to pipe the output to a text file, open the text file and cut and paste it into this message. Why that extra step. Anyway, the complete and untested patch is at the top of this e-mail. So after 9 hours of swearing and hunting and waiting I was able to start looking at the patch. This is not why I switched to Mac OS X! It should just work! Maybe all those oss hackers have too much time on their hands, but I haven't! /rant But since LilyPond is such a wonderful piece of work, it was all worth it. Arjan On 25 nov 2006, at 1:03, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: Arjan Bos escreveu: So please remove it, or if it is felt that it is a just message, please state that it something like: Warning: fingering notation for finger number n. I vote for the latter. Patches/pushes appreciated. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen LilyPond Software Design -- Code for Music Notation http://www.lilypond-design.com --- Don't put your trust in revolutions. They always come around again. That's why they're called revolutions. People die, and nothing changes. -- (Terry Pratchett, Night Watch) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo
Music for the Martians?
On 23 nov 2006, at 3:10, Graham Percival wrote: I think this is referring to people with 6-fingers. Typing e8_1 means first finger; typing e8_1 prints 1 as a TextScript. But what are martians and why are they playing my music? Shouldn't this message simply state that a 6 is a strange number to indicate a finger with? Yes, but somebody was feeling creative when they wrote that code. :) What message do you propose to change it with? I thought about that and I know that it is non-sensical to have 6 in there as a finger indication. But I decided to put it in and it is right to put it in for my purpose, otherwise it wouldn't be in. So I feel that this message can be safely removed from lilypond. Oh, and 2.8 didn't have that message and I did not confuse myself with six fingers either there ;-) So please remove it, or if it is felt that it is a just message, please state that it something like: Warning: fingering notation for finger number n. where n is greater than 5, or 4 depending on the instrument being described. In guitar music, we normally only deal with four fingers as the thumb is at the other side of the neck. So here it would be appropriate to give the message at finger number 5. Since it's clearly instrument dependent, and lilypond doesn't know about the instrument that the music is intended for, it is a strong indication that you cannot tell when to display this warning. So this is in favour of removing it. Groetjes, Arjan --- They both savoured the strange warm glow of being much more ignorant than ordinary people, who were only ignorant of ordinary things. -- Discworld scientists at work (Terry Pratchett, Equal Rites) --- It was funny how people were people everywhere you went, even if the people concerned weren't the people the people who made up the phrase people are people everywhere had traditionally thought of as people. And even if you weren't virtuous, as you had been brought up to understand the term, you did like to see virtue in other people, provided it didn't cost you anything. -- (Terry Pratchett, The Fifth Elephant) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Manual engraving video
On 23 nov 2006, at 8:09, Martial wrote: The fact that they chose to switch to computer-engraving doesn't contradict that hand-engraving is far better; see: http://lilypond.org/web/about/automated-engraving/introduction.html And the Lilypond product is great ! The interesting thing from the video that I took home from it is that the engraving of a piece is dependent on the tempo: an Andante piece should be typeset more dense than an Allegro piece. Is it possible to embed this rule into Lilypond? Perhaps driven via a new identifier \tempoText = Andante? http://cathemline.org/lily/fragment_typo.html Nice! --- A marriage is always made up of two people who are prepared to swear that only the other one snores. -- (Terry Pratchett, The Fifth Elephant) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
How to show 4x repeats?
Hi list, Where can I find in the manual how can I show the fact that a volta repeat should be played 4 times? The score I'm copying has a horizontal bracket over it with the text 4x in the middle of the bracket Something like: -- 4x |: :| Thanks, Arjan --- They both savoured the strange warm glow of being much more ignorant than ordinary people, who were only ignorant of ordinary things. -- Discworld scientists at work (Terry Pratchett, Equal Rites) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Object hierarchy in LilyPond?
On 6 mei 2006, at 21:20, Mats Bengtsson wrote: Quoting Erik Sandberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tuesday 02 May 2006 09:06, Tomas Valusek wrote: Hello, I'm trying to figure out an overall object hierarchy of LilyPond. The only way I've discovered so far is to traverse programmers guide and follow links. But this is very tedious, since if I want to get something done in non-default way, this approach is very confusing. I don't understand. Do you want to see, for each grob type, which tweakable grob properties it has? Or do you want to create a graph that shows which grobs that belong to which interfaces? Or the context hierarchy or which engravers are included in each context or which objects are created by which engraver (or context) or ... What I would like to see is a model of all the data being used within LilyPond, where each attribute and each entity is clearly and unambiguously defined. This should give a clear definition of the properties that can be set. In a later stage this could then be mapped to Objects to form a process model. (At least in theory). This mapping might learn us when we can set those properties (using \set or \override). --- No matter what she did with her hair it took about three minutes for it to tangle itself up again, like a garden hosepipe in a shed [Which, no matter how carefully coiled, will always uncoil overnight and tie the lawnmower to the bicycles]. -- (Terry Pratchett, Lords and Ladies) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Contexts (Was Re: Set vs. Override - I'm confused)
Erik, That's a great document! I've read about half of it now and it does a very good job to explain to me how LilyPond works. And seeing the date on the title page, I think I have to congratulate you on your Masters Degree! Well Done! Off topic, but are your music streams implemented in the current 2.9 branch? From a structural point of view, it looks like a cleaner way of doing things. You might even add the syllables of lyrics to the music stream and do away with the current implementation. (Obviously, I've never looked hard at the lily source code, but as a data modeller, I like to see nice structured designs) Congrats, Arjan On 27 apr 2006, at 13:58, Erik Sandberg wrote: Citerar Tomas Valusek [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, When I first read the manual I didn't see any clear explanation of the difference, the docs could be more clear on that point. But when I realized that one was for grobs and the other for context, it became much clearer, for me it helps separating and understanding grobs and contexts. Context - another topic of my interest. It seems to me I haven't understood them fully yet. I generally know what they are for, but the role of them is not fully clear to me. You can read my master thesis if you like, it tries to explain the context concept (the appendix music streams for the impatient might be a good choice if you're in a hurry) http://home.student.uu.se/ersa9195/report.pdf BTW: Graham, feel free to incorporate anything you like from the report into the manual. Erik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user --- The shortest unit of time in the universe is the New York Second, defined as the period of time between the traffic lights turning green and the cab behind you honking. -- (Terry Pratchett, Lords and Ladies) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: emacs: error in post-command-hook: (wrong-type-argument integerp nil)
On 31 okt 2005, at 7:23, Robert J. Cristel wrote: I'm using tei-emacs, lilypond 2.6.4, on win98se. Copied lilypond_init.el into .emacs Copied lilypond emacs-mode files to site-lisp\lilypond directory. This seemed to work as here is load-path: snip value=load-path / Robert, This is something that has annoyed me tremendously since I first started to use lilypond. However it didn't bother me enough to delve into it yet. My emacs version is from an early september cvs snapshot on Mac OS X I always get this message, but my emacs seems to grok it anyway. Let's dig into it. There is something wrong in the post-command-hook when lilypond-mode is loaded. In lilypond-mode.el we find: (add-hook 'post-command-hook 'LilyPond-mode-context-set-syntax- table nil t) So presumably the error is somewhere in the defun LilyPond-mode- context-set-syntax-table. This is defined in lilypond-font-lock.el, but when I try to instrument that function for debugging, it gets me nowhere. Luckily that function is (interactive), so I can call it with M-x LilyPond-mode-context-set-syntax-table, and now I can find the culprit: (cond ((nth 3 context)) ; inside string ((nth 4 context)) ; inside a comment ((eq (char-syntax (char-before (point))) ?\\)) ; found escape-char == Gives an error ((and (eq (char-syntax (char-before (- (point) 1))) ?\\) (memq (char-before (point)) '( ?\) ?\] ; found escape-char ((memq (char-before (point)) '( ?\) )) The line that says ((eq (char-syntax (char-before (point))) ?\\)) ; found escape-char fails the first time. At this moment (point) is at (point-min) so (char-before (point)) will return nil and, at least in my version of emacs, (char-syntax nil) will fail. By changing it to something like ((eq (char-syntax (char-before (max (point) 2))) ?\\)) ; found escape-char it should work again. This should be done for all calls to (char- before (point)) in this function. So it's better to replace the top of the (cond) statement with something like: (cond ((bobp)) ; we cannot grok the context at beginning of the buffer ((eq (point-min) (point-max))) ; empty buffers don't have context ((eq (+ (point-min) 1) (point))) ; to prevent an obiwan error ((nth 3 context)) ; inside string ((nth 4 context)) ; inside a comment ((eq (char-syntax (char-before (point))) ?\\)) ; found escape-char ((and (eq (char-syntax (char-before (- (point) 1))) ?\\) (memq (char-before (point)) '( ?\) ?\] ; found escape-char ((memq (char-before (point)) '( ?\) )) Strange thing is though, that when I tested it it broke something on a midi function. I remembered doing some tinkering with these defuns as well, so I downloaded the latest unstable (2.7.15-1) and tested its lilypond mode by opening a few .ly files and the error did not pop-up! The code of the above defun is still the same as above, so if a lilypond developer would be so kind as to look into my suggestions, I'd be most obliged. Let me know how you're doing! Kind regards, Arjan Bos --- A marriage is always made up of two people who are prepared to swear that only the other one snores. -- (Terry Pratchett, The Fifth Elephant) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Languages other than English on the mailing list
On 25 jun 2005, at 18:22, Jay Hamilton, Sound and Silence wrote: I too can read the French but it would be very convenient to have a translation so I do not inadvertently misunderstand. Merci Jay Not only that, but posting your question in a language other than english will deprive your access to a big pool of knowledgable people who can discuss in English, but can't in the posted language. What I'm trying to state is that you do yourself a favour by posting in English. --- A marriage is always made up of two people who are prepared to swear that only the other one snores. -- (Terry Pratchett, The Fifth Elephant) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Mac OS X 10.4 spotlight indexing of .ly files?
Hi there all you Mac OS X Tiger users. Does anyone of you know of a metadata importer for lilypond files? Because currently they are not indexed. The documents from Apple tell how to do it, but since my c classes are 12 years ago, I'm very rusty in this area. So if someone has already done an importer I'd be very happy with a copy. The areas that imho need to be indexed are all commands (those that start with \command-name), all scheme definitions and all header information and all lyrics (without the timing and melismata preferably). Regards, Arjan --- It was funny how people were people everywhere you went, even if the people concerned weren't the people the people who made up the phrase people are people everywhere had traditionally thought of as people. And even if you weren't virtuous, as you had been brought up to understand the term, you did like to see virtue in other people, provided it didn't cost you anything. -- (Terry Pratchett, The Fifth Elephant) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: invoking Lilypond from a script
Just to rule out things, I take it you looked at the convert - DVI to Postscript.scpt that comes with the folder actions (or a similar one)? My guess is that you need to use the --output=FILE option of Lilypond. This option is in 2.4.2. I haven't checked with 2.2.5 due to lack of availability on my system. It is something which I tried myself, but could not get working after trying for roughly 10 minutes. It might need some POSIX keyword on your path. Otherwise you could just tell finder to move the document, couldn't you? HTH On 8 apr 2005, at 19:29, Kris Shaffer wrote: Thanks for making such a great product. I love using Lilypond. I am currently working on an applescript app for Mac OS X that will allow a .ly file to be dragged to a Lilypond icon to create the PDF score without using the command line. My hopes is that it will help make Lilypond more accesible to traditional Mac users. However, when I call Lilypond (v. 2.2.5) from the appescript (i.e. do shell script /sw/bin/lilypond [filename.ly]), it outputs the score to / instead of the directory the source file is in. I'm wondering if there is a reason why it would not automatically export to the originating folder, as it does when I invoke it in the terminal. Perhaps the Applescript calling the shell script is the problem? Let me know if you know of a reason this may be behaving unexpectedly, or if you need more information from me. Otherwise, I will add some extra code and variables to get around the issue. Thanks. Sincerely, Kris Shaffer ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user --- A marriage is always made up of two people who are prepared to swear that only the other one snores. -- (Terry Pratchett, The Fifth Elephant) --- It was funny how people were people everywhere you went, even if the people concerned weren't the people the people who made up the phrase people are people everywhere had traditionally thought of as people. And even if you weren't virtuous, as you had been brought up to understand the term, you did like to see virtue in other people, provided it didn't cost you anything. -- (Terry Pratchett, The Fifth Elephant) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: emacs lilypond-mode
On 26 mrt 2005, at 14:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi to everybody! I'm writing now a short tutorial about how to use emacs and vim to edit lilypond files in mac os x. Two questions: 1) When I open a lilypond file with emacs, I obtain the following error: Loading lilypond-mode (source)... 0 occurrences [3 times] Loading lilypond-font-lock (source)...done Loading lilypond-indent (source)...done Loading lilypond-what-beat (source)...done Loading lilypond-mode (source)...done Error in post-command-hook: (wrong-type-argument integerp nil) What does it means? Is it important or not? It means that emacs expected something to be an integer (it checked the integer proposition with a function called integerp. This is a boolean function, returning nil or t). It found `nil' instead of an integer. This was encountered in `post-command-hook'. There is some comment in lilypond-mode.el to the effect that there is something very XEmacs specfic about it. Unfortunately, I don't have the knowledge to debug it and even more unfortunately, I don't have the time to acquire that knowledge. I have that message as well, but I always disregard it, since everything seems to work just fine. 2) I'm trying to get autoindentation in emacs, but without any result, which is the command to start it? What I can do to have it automatically each time I open a lily file? Is lilypond-mode active when you open a .ly file in emacs? For me auto-indentation is always on, just not when pressing return. The `normal' way of giving a newline in emacs is C-j. This will do auto indenting. To indent a line press either [tab] or C-i. To indent a whole buffer, press C-x h (select whole buffer) and then C-M-\ (indent-region) HTH, Arjan Bos Lilypond 2.4.2 Mac OS X 10.3.8 TiBook G4 667 GE / G4 DP 1.42 --- It was funny how people were people everywhere you went, even if the people concerned weren't the people the people who made up the phrase people are people everywhere had traditionally thought of as people. And even if you weren't virtuous, as you had been brought up to understand the term, you did like to see virtue in other people, provided it didn't cost you anything. -- (Terry Pratchett, The Fifth Elephant) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
error Printing
Dear list, regarding 2.4.2: Did anyone of you ever had troubles printing on a networked OCE printer via windows NT 4.0 sp6? I produced a score for our conductor and sent him the resulting .pdf file. As I 've done this at least half a dozen times before without problems, I wasn't expecting an error. But when he tried to print this specific pdf file, he got the following error-message: ´invalidfont´, the offending command is ´definefont´ with operanding stack top / font top-1-dict- top-2/BA+ecss8 (original mail included below) Any ideas as to what might cause this? I looked at the fonts in the pdf-file and all-but-one are marked embedded subset. The exception is T3_Font_0. Could this be the source of the error? TIA, Arjan Begin forwarded message: From: Bakker, Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 7 maart 2005 14:24:43 GMT+01:00 To: Arjan Bos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Momentje? Hé arjan, op het scherm is alles ok. mijn printer geeft wel een foutmelding: ´invalidfont´, het offending command is ´definefont´ met als operanding stack top / font top-1-dict- top-2/BA+ecss8 Is dat iets wat in de pdf zelf fout kan zitten? Eric -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Arjan Bos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: donderdag 3 maart 2005 22:11 Aan: Eric Bakker; Bakker, Eric; Roderic Bos Onderwerp: Momentje? Volgens mijn staat nu alles ech goe.. --- Look, that's why there's rules, understand? So that you think before you break 'em. -- (Terry Pratchett, Thief of Time) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Box markup box not a square
Ok, thanks for the answer. It doesn't show up on the paper output, so it might just be a display thing in my MacOS X / Fink setting somewhere. I'll wait and see what 2.6 will bring. Arjan On 24 feb 2005, at 9:41, Mats Bengtsson wrote: I know there have been some changes related to these functions in the recent development versions, but I don't know enough details to say if it's easy to fix it in your version. /Mats Arjan Bos wrote: Hi list, I'm using 2.4.2 In my pieces I like to have the default marks (with \mark \default) to be in a box. As per documentation I use the following lisp code: \set Score.markFormatter = #(lambda (mark context) (make-box-markup (format-mark-letters mark context))) And this results in a box that isn't square. A picture of it (zoomed in quite a few times) can be found at: http://zaaf.nl/unsquareBox.pdf (It's a pdf-file of a screen capture, don't ask ;-) Please notice that the right hand line of the square has moved a bit to the left. Is this a bug? Or can I make the box square. By the way: The boxes look square on paper and in the end that's what counts. So it might just be a display issue here. Kind regards, Arjan Bos --- Multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign of a sick mind -- (Terry Pratchett, Mort) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user --- Multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign of a sick mind -- (Terry Pratchett, Mort) --- A marriage is always made up of two people who are prepared to swear that only the other one snores. -- (Terry Pratchett, The Fifth Elephant) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
lilypond install mac os x
On 20 feb 2005, at 12:47, Libero Mureddu wrote: Hi! I've just finished a shorter version of the previous tutorial on how to install lily on Mac. Do you think is it good now? Great article. To me it seems you've found the right balance between being concise and still verbose enough to indicate all the steps. I must confess however, that for me the previous installation instructions were perfect. So I might not be the best judge of your article. I have also some screenshots. The screenshots are nice too, only it took me a few moments to recognize your terminal.app. It wasn't green on black and slightly transparent as all terminals should be ;-) It might be a good idea to just take the default terminal settings. 40x25 black on white, no history buffer so as to make the terminal.app as less daunting as possiple. It's only a small visual issue, but hey, we're on the Mac here :-) kind regards, Arjan Bos --- It was funny how people were people everywhere you went, even if the people concerned weren't the people the people who made up the phrase people are people everywhere had traditionally thought of as people. And even if you weren't virtuous, as you had been brought up to understand the term, you did like to see virtue in other people, provided it didn't cost you anything. -- (Terry Pratchett, The Fifth Elephant) --- Look, that's why there's rules, understand? So that you think before you break 'em. -- (Terry Pratchett, Thief of Time) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Fwd: Unexpected extra measure at end
Sorry, it went only to Mats
Begin forwarded message:
From: Arjan Bos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 31 januari 2005 21:43:20 GMT+01:00
To: Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Unexpected extra measure at end
Ah, so it all makes sense after all. Although, come to think of it,
where does it say that an extra bar is needed? I only see lyrics, with
a \lyricsto command. There are no notes in there. Persumably, no
notes does not equal no bar.
Thanks for the insight!
Arjan
On 29 jan 2005, at 0:46, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
A Voice context in LilyPond can only contain notes, not lyrics.
I know that this seems unintuitive to some people, but that's the
way it is designed. Also, if you several pieces of music or whatever
within a pair of curly braces {...} in a LilyPond file, it means
typeset these pieces of music in a sequence after eachother.
If you want several things to happen simultanously, they have to
be included in a So, you instructed LilyPond to insert an
empty bar after the end of the \tenMusic, and so it did.
/Mats
Arjan Bos wrote:
Dear list,
When creating a score for the choir I'm in, I found out that
Lilypond generates an extra measure at the end when the lyrics are
defined within the voice. When they are just outside the closing `}'
of the voice, the resulting pdf looks the same, except the empty bar
at the end has gone.
Is this a bug?
This is the (almost) smallest example I could come up with that
still has the problem.
%% -- sniplet begins here
\version 2.4.2
tenMusic = \notemode { \relative c' { c4 c c c } }
tenText = \lyricmode { E -- tra bar. Why? }
\score {
\context ChoirStaff {
\context Staff = ten {
\context Voice = tenors { \tenMusic }
%% When put here, the lyrics generate an extra measure at the
%% end. If they are outside the Voice brackets, it doesn't.
\context Lyrics = tenorsA { s1 }
}
\context Lyrics = tenorsA \lyricsto tenors { \tenText }
}
}
%% --- sniplet ends here
TIA,
Arjan
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Unexpected extra measure at end
Dear list,
When creating a score for the choir I'm in, I found out that Lilypond
generates an extra measure at the end when the lyrics are defined
within the voice. When they are just outside the closing `}' of the
voice, the resulting pdf looks the same, except the empty bar at the
end has gone.
Is this a bug?
This is the (almost) smallest example I could come up with that still
has the problem.
%% -- sniplet begins here
\version 2.4.2
tenMusic = \notemode { \relative c' { c4 c c c } }
tenText = \lyricmode { E -- tra bar. Why? }
\score {
\context ChoirStaff {
\context Staff = ten {
\context Voice = tenors { \tenMusic }
%% When put here, the lyrics generate an extra measure at the
%% end. If they are outside the Voice brackets, it doesn't.
\context Lyrics = tenorsA { s1 }
}
\context Lyrics = tenorsA \lyricsto tenors { \tenText }
}
}
%% --- sniplet ends here
TIA,
Arjan
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people are people everywhere had traditionally thought of as people.
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Unfolding Volta repeats in midi (hacker help wanted)
I read the documentation on unfolding volta repeats in midi output.
Combined with the recent discussion on scheme functionality, I got the
following idea:
Could it be possible to write a scheme function that evaluates to
volta when evaluating the music for layout and that evaluates to
unfold to when evaluating music for midi output? Can I then use that
function to write something like:
\repeat #unfold-midi 2 { c''4 }
Where should I begin? Which music properties are involved?
something like: (out of the hat via the keyboard to the list)
(defun unfold-midi()
evaluates to \unfold\ for midi output and to \volta\ for paper
output.
(if (in-midi-p)
unfold
volta))
But then in guile / scheme instead of elisp and using the correct
key-words.
TIA,
Arjan
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Strange Behaviour of same-note polyphonic
Hi list,
I have found something peculiar in lilypond 2.4.2. I'm setting a piece
that has, in a few cases, two voices instead of one. Browsing the
manual, I found the a \\ b syntax. So far, so good.
Normally, when two notes are the same, they are printed overlapping.
However, when introducing two notes that are the same, and that are
printed without a stem, they do not overlap. Here's a small example:
\score {
\new Staff {
\relative c' {
r2 r4 r8
{ fis8( | e) } \\ { fis8( | e)}
r2 r4 r8 |
r2 r4 r8
{ fis8( | e4) } \\ { fis8( | e4) }
r2. |
r2 r4 r8
{ fis8( | e2) } \\ { fis8( | e2) }
r2 |
r2 r4 r8
%% this one goes wrong ?
{ fis8( | e1) } \\ { fis8( | e1) }
}
}
}
I'm sure it could be even more concise. Please note that the whole
notes at the end are not overlapping. How can I make them overlap?
TIA,
Arjan
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Re: How to add a closing brace?
The only place I need it is at the end, to make very clear that the piece has ended. But an occasional spanned bar would be welcome too. On 12 nov 2004, at 10:43, Mats Bengtsson wrote: I don't know any simple way to get that. Maybe some of the hackers can come up with a trick. /Mats Arjan Bos wrote: I'm writing some vocal music. I have three staves without connecting bars. I'd like to have a Start Brace, no connecting bars and an End Brace. The Start Brace and the disconnected bars are in the documentation. I do have them in a StaffGroup and I remove the Span_bar_engraver. How do I add an end-brace? I presume I'm not the only one who'd want this, but I didn't find it in the archives. TIA, Arjan --- Look, that's why there's rules, understand? So that you think before you break 'em. -- (Terry Pratchett, Thief of Time) ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = --- The Kappamaki, a whaling research ship, was currently researching the question: How many whales can you catch in one week? -- (Terry Pratchett Neil Gaiman, Good Omens) ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Documentation html bug in 2.4
Dear List, Could anyone please tell me where I can report the following? I'm reading the documentation in one-big-page for version 2.4 (http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/ lilypond.html) and when trying to follow links to the program reference, I get 404 on for example http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/ lilypond-internals.html#Contexts Regards, Arjan --- It was funny how people were people everywhere you went, even if the people concerned weren't the people the people who made up the phrase people are people everywhere had traditionally thought of as people. And even if you weren't virtuous, as you had been brought up to understand the term, you did like to see virtue in other people, provided it didn't cost you anything. -- (Terry Pratchett, The Fifth Elephant) ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Three small variations on lyrics?
Mats,
The example is similar, but for me (being a newbie in LilyPond) not
similar enough. I looked at the example and tried to figure out what
was going on in there. I adapted my code, but everything I tried
somehow got the tree stanzas in the beginning. I wanted them to start
on the 14 bar, lasting two bars and then 8 bars again with a single
line of lyrics.
Is there a way to do this?
And, perhaps more important, is there a document that explains why it
all works the way it does? The tutorial is great for getting up to
speed very quick, but it doesn't tell me why things are the way they
are. For example, the satbSample.ly (sp?) is great, but it took me many
test runs to find out that the order in which Lyrics and Notes are
stated matters. And still I don't know when to use a context, and why
there are things like { s1 } in there.
Arjan
One similar example is provided in
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2004-10/msg00387.html
/Mats
Arjan Bos wrote:
Hi List,
Since last weekend I started on LilyPond 2.4. I'm a newbie to
LilyPond, so this might just be a question of reading the fine
manual.
I have a lyric that goes as follows:
Nie -- mand is hier 1. die mij de han -- den reikt. Nooit een dag
in je leven
2. die mij troost -- en wil.
3. die mij een toe-komst geeft.
So my question is:
How do I have multiple stanzas as part of the lyrics, where the first
part is fixed, then there is a part with three stanzas and finally
another fixed part?
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Three small variations on lyrics?
Hi List, Since last weekend I started on LilyPond 2.4. I'm a newbie to LilyPond, so this might just be a question of reading the fine manual. I have a lyric that goes as follows: Nie -- mand is hier 1. die mij de han -- den reikt. Nooit een dag in je leven 2. die mij troost -- en wil. 3. die mij een toe-komst geeft. So my question is: How do I have multiple stanzas as part of the lyrics, where the first part is fixed, then there is a part with three stanzas and finally another fixed part? TIA, Arjan --- Multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign of a sick mind -- (Terry Pratchett, Mort) ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
lilypond-mode for emacs 21.3.50.6
When compiling an incorrect .ly file with C-c C-l I get the following messages: compilation-next-error-function: Symbol's value as variable is void: next-error-highlightInvalid face reference: next-error Invalid face reference: next-error [217 times] Any idea how to fix this? TIA, Arjan --- It was funny how people were people everywhere you went, even if the people concerned weren't the people the people who made up the phrase people are people everywhere had traditionally thought of as people. And even if you weren't virtuous, as you had been brought up to understand the term, you did like to see virtue in other people, provided it didn't cost you anything. -- (Terry Pratchett, The Fifth Elephant) ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
