Re: Cropped output
Den fre 21 juli 2023 kl 13:43 skrev Hans Aikema : > > > On 21 Jul 2023, at 13:36, Henrik Frisk wrote: > > > > > Den tors 20 juli 2023 kl 18:10 skrev Jean Abou Samra : > >> Le jeudi 20 juillet 2023 à 17:52 +0200, Henrik Frisk a écrit : >> >> None at all, but maybe I'm misunderstanding the command. Here's what I do: >> >> $ lilypond --pdf -dcrop='#t' test6.ly >> GNU LilyPond 2.24.1 (running Guile 3.0) >> Processing `test6.ly' >> Parsing... >> Interpreting music... >> Preprocessing graphical objects... >> Calculating line breaks... >> Drawing systems... >> Converting to `test6.pdf'... >> Success: compilation successfully completed >> >> Test6.pdf is a regular pdf. >> >> >> >> >> You should also find a separate file Test6.cropped.pdf with cropped >> output. >> >> If you don't: do you have any ly:set-option calls or such in the file? >> >> No, I didn't, but I identified the problem. I also had > > \include "lilypond-book-preamble.ly" > > as this was the old way of getting a cropped output. > > Which essentially would also count as a 'yes' to Jean's question as that ( > https://github.com/lilypond/lilypond/blob/master/ly/lilypond-book-preamble.ly) > is including a few ly:set-option entries into your file > > Yes, my reply was strange. My "no" was to whether there was a .cropped.pdf file created and the solution was obviously thanks to Jeans suggestion. Sorry for the unclarity
Re: Cropped output
Den tors 20 juli 2023 kl 18:10 skrev Jean Abou Samra : > Le jeudi 20 juillet 2023 à 17:52 +0200, Henrik Frisk a écrit : > > None at all, but maybe I'm misunderstanding the command. Here's what I do: > > $ lilypond --pdf -dcrop='#t' test6.ly > GNU LilyPond 2.24.1 (running Guile 3.0) > Processing `test6.ly' > Parsing... > Interpreting music... > Preprocessing graphical objects... > Calculating line breaks... > Drawing systems... > Converting to `test6.pdf'... > Success: compilation successfully completed > > Test6.pdf is a regular pdf. > > > > > You should also find a separate file Test6.cropped.pdf with cropped output. > > If you don't: do you have any ly:set-option calls or such in the file? > > No, I didn't, but I identified the problem. I also had \include "lilypond-book-preamble.ly" as this was the old way of getting a cropped output. This apparently interfered with -dcrop='#t'. No it works both from as a cli argument and as set in the file: #(ly:set-option 'crop #t) Thank for the help and sorry for the confusion. /Henrik
Re: Cropped output
> Hi, > > I know that this is an old question but I'm seeing some strange behavior. > On Mac OS none of the suggested alternatives appear to work though it did > on Linux. The only way I can seem to get a cropped output is to output an > EPS file. > > What tools does the cli option -dcrop='#t' use. Maybe I'm missing > something on my system. > > > > -dcrop='#t' does not use any extra tools. > None at all, but maybe I'm misunderstanding the command. Here's what I do: $ lilypond --pdf -dcrop='#t' test6.ly GNU LilyPond 2.24.1 (running Guile 3.0) Processing `test6.ly' Parsing... Interpreting music... Preprocessing graphical objects... Calculating line breaks... Drawing systems... Converting to `test6.pdf'... Success: compilation successfully completed Test6.pdf is a regular pdf. /h
Cropped output
Hi, I know that this is an old question but I'm seeing some strange behavior. On Mac OS none of the suggested alternatives appear to work though it did on Linux. The only way I can seem to get a cropped output is to output an EPS file. What tools does the cli option -dcrop='#t' use. Maybe I'm missing something on my system. This is on the latest version. Thanks för any input!
Re: Generate music with scheme
>
> You could also use append-map which will concatenate the lists without
> the inner call to make-sequential-music:
>
>
> {
> $(make-sequential-music
>(append-map
> (lambda (x) (list
> #{ $(ly:make-pitch 0 x) 4 #}
> #{ \mark \markup \override #'(font-size . -3) 10 #} ))
> (iota 4 1)))
> }
>
>
> In fact, using list-splicing, you can eliminate the outer call to
> make-sequential-music as well:
>
>
> {
> $@(append-map
>(lambda (x) (list
> #{ $(ly:make-pitch 0 x) 4 #}
> #{ \mark \markup \override #'(font-size . -3) 10 #} ))
>(iota 4 1))
> }
>
>
> Thanks Aaron, that is indeed very neat.
> Also note the above use of #{ #} to escape music syntax within scheme,
> which can often be more abbreviated.
>
Yes, another thing I had forgotten about!
Best,
/h
Re: Generate music with scheme
Den mån 11 apr. 2022 kl 12:30 skrev Jean Abou Samra :
>
>
> Le 11/04/2022 à 11:50, Henrik Frisk a écrit :
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have not worked with scheme and lilypond for some years. I realize
> > that this is more of a scheme question than Lilypond, but perhaps
> > someone knows how to do this. I can generate four notes with the
> > following:
> >
> > \version "2.18.0"
> > \score {
> > {
> > $ (make-sequential-music
> >(map (lambda (x)
> > (make-music 'NoteEvent
> > 'pitch
> > (ly:make-pitch 0 x)
> > 'duration
> > (ly:make-duration 2)))
> > (list 1 2 3 4)))
> > }
> > }
> >
> > However, if I would like to add a markup to each note to each note I
> > fail. I would have guessed something like this would do it but it
> > generates an (almost) empty staff:
> >
> > \version "2.18.0"
> > \score {
> > {
> >$(make-sequential-music
> >(map (lambda (x)
> >(make-music 'NoteEvent
> >'pitch
> >(ly:make-pitch 0 x)
> >'duration
> >(ly:make-duration 2))
> >(make-music 'MarkEvent
> >'label
> >(markup
> > #:line
> > (#:override (cons (quote font-size) -3) "10"
> > (list 1)))
> > }
> > }
>
>
>
> A Scheme lambda returns the value of the last expression
> inside. If there are other expressions before, they are
> evaluated for their side effects, but the result is thrown
> away. You want to combine both music events in a single
> music expressions.
>
> \version "2.22.2"
>
> {
>$(make-sequential-music
> (map (lambda (x)
> (make-sequential-music
> (list
> (make-music 'NoteEvent
> 'pitch
> (ly:make-pitch 0 x)
> 'duration
> (ly:make-duration 2))
> (make-music 'MarkEvent
> 'label
> (markup
>#:line
>(#:override (cons (quote font-size) -3)
> "10"))
> (list 1 2 3 4)))
> }
>
Thanks Jean,
It was the (make-sequential-music) after the lambda expression that I had
missed, without it it doesn't help to combine the two music events in one
list.
Very helpful!
/h
Re: Generate music with scheme
Hi Leo!
Den mån 11 apr. 2022 kl 12:49 skrev Leo Correia de Verdier <
leo.correia.de.verd...@gmail.com>:
> An addition:
>
> MarkEvent is not added to the note, but to the staff (it’s often used for
> things like rehearsal marks), if you want the markup added to the actual
> note you can write it like this:
>
> %
>
> \version "2.18.0"
> \score {
> {
> $ (make-sequential-music
>(map (lambda (x)
> (make-music 'NoteEvent
> 'pitch
> (ly:make-pitch 0 x)
> 'duration
> (ly:make-duration 2)
> 'articulations
> (list (make-music 'TextScriptEvent
> 'text
> (markup #:line (#:fontsize -3
> "10"))
> (list 1 2 3 4)))
> }
> }
>
> %%%
>
Thanks, this is actually much better. It's been a while I haven't worked
with Lilypond so it's good to be reminded!
>
> 2.18 is some years old, by the way.
>
It was actually erroneously copied from an old file. But it's interesting
that apt in Ubuntu Studio has 2.20.0-1 as its latest version.
/H
Generate music with scheme
Hi,
I have not worked with scheme and lilypond for some years. I realize that
this is more of a scheme question than Lilypond, but perhaps someone knows
how to do this. I can generate four notes with the following:
\version "2.18.0"
\score {
{
$ (make-sequential-music
(map (lambda (x)
(make-music 'NoteEvent
'pitch
(ly:make-pitch 0 x)
'duration
(ly:make-duration 2)))
(list 1 2 3 4)))
}
}
However, if I would like to add a markup to each note to each note I fail.
I would have guessed something like this would do it but it generates an
(almost) empty staff:
\version "2.18.0"
\score {
{
$(make-sequential-music
(map (lambda (x)
(make-music 'NoteEvent
'pitch
(ly:make-pitch 0 x)
'duration
(ly:make-duration 2))
(make-music 'MarkEvent
'label
(markup
#:line
(#:override (cons (quote font-size) -3) "10"
(list 1)))
}
}
/h
RE: org babel and lilypond
Hi John Org babel for lilypond would not be a replacement for lilypond mode. It would rather be a complement to lilypond-book. My main interest however, would first and foremost be to use it to organise my lilypond snippets. Whether or not it's good at that I don't know because I can't get it to work :/ Den 25 dec. 2017 18:43 skrev "John Schlomann" <jschlom...@wideopenwest.com>: > I’m just curious, what would be the advantages of Org Babel over the > LilyPond mode that comes with LilyPond? > > > > John > > > > *From:* lilypond-user [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+jschlomann= > wideopenwest@gnu.org] *On Behalf Of *Henrik Frisk > *Sent:* Sunday, December 24, 2017 12:57 PM > *To:* lilypond-user@gnu.org > *Subject:* org babel and lilypond > > > > Hi, > > Today I tried to get ob-lilypond (Org Babel) to work on my OSX system and > a recent versin of emacs. Anmyone using it here? I would love to get it to > work. > > Best, > > Henrik > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
org babel and lilypond
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Re: lyqi on FC13
I would really like to get lyqi working, so any hints are welcome. Thanks, /Henrik I think your best bet, Henrik, would be to get in touch with Nicolas Sceaux, the author of lyqui. His email, from his home page, is nicolas.sce...@free.fr Thanks Colin. I will do that! /Henrik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
lyqi on FC13
Hi, I used to use lyqi in past but haven't recently. I decided to revisit it and downloaded it from github (https://github.com/nsceaux/lyqi). i did get a few compilation errors, primarily variants of: In lyqi:insert-opening-delimiter: lyqi.el:3050:18:Warning: `last-command-char' is an obsolete variable (as of Emacs at least 19.34); use `last-command-event' instead. and an expected: In end of data: lyqi.el:6078:1:Warning: the function `do-applescript' is not known to be defined. The library appears to load in emacs however but none of the keys correspond to what it is supposed to. Key 'd' gives an 'f' in the input and the notes appear to be scattered all over the keyboard. I'm on a MacBook Pro 5,2 and was using the builting keyboard and I'm running Fedora 13 and Emacs 23.2.1 I would really like to get lyqi working, so any hints are welcome. Thanks, /Henrik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Guile interpreter
Hi, When I'm starting up the Guile interpreter by inserting #(module-define! (resolve-module '(guile-user)) 'lilypond-module (current-module)) #(top-repl) in my .ly file, I don't have readline support (command history, etc). How can I make sure the ice-9 and readline modules are loaded when the interpreter is started via the lilypond command? I'm on Fedora 13 BTW and I have command history if I start guile by itself and I have a .guile file that contains (use-modules (ice-8 readline)) (activate-readline) Thanks for any hints, /Henrik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Get the pitch as number
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Gilles THIBAULT gilles.thiba...@free.fr wrote: It appears to me that I'm getting a list rather than an integer, but if I run (get-text texts (ly:pitch-semitones (ly:make-pitch 0 1 0))) So get-pitch was probably the culprit ... NB You use : ly:pitch-semitones. You'll get first only a number from a note above the middle C, then your texts list will be very extensive. Are you sure you don't want ly:pitch-notename instead ? Thanks Gilles, I see now what the problem was. however, I'm not quite sure yet how to avoid doing similar mistakes in the future, but maybe I'll get used to it (For example, how do I know that I should start looking for EventChord rather than NoteEvents?) I'm not sure I understand your comment about using ly:pitch-notename instead, but the method for getting the pitch is not necessarily important. What I want to do is to map a 43-tone scale (octave divided in 43-tones) to the first 43 tones of the chromatic scale so it is important that I can tell middle C from C in the first octave. ly:pitch-semitones seemed to be an appropriate method. best, /Henrik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Get the pitch as number
Hi all,
I'm trying to write a couple of functions that will attach a given
text script to a note depending on the pitch. In the example below I
get the first item in the list, as expected if I run (get-text 1). If
I run (get-pitch msc) I get ((0)) and if I try to compile the file or
run (add-text-script) I get
transformer.ly:23:44: In procedure - in expression (- n 1):
transformer.ly:23:44: Wrong type argument in position 1: (0)
I'm a beginner in Scheme so I'm probably doing something stupid here.
It appears to me that I'm getting a list rather than an integer, but
if I run (get-text texts (ly:pitch-semitones (ly:make-pitch 0 1 0))) I
get the expected output. Why am I not getting an integer in my example
and/or how can I access the integer value in my call to
(ly:pitch-semitones)?
Thanks for any input!
/Henrik
\version 2.12.3
#(define (make-text-script x)
(make-music 'TextScriptEvent
'direction DOWN
'text (get-text texts x)))
#(define (add-text-script m)
(if (equal? (ly:music-property m 'name) 'EventChord)
(set! (ly:music-property m 'elements)
(cons (make-text-script (get-pitch m))
(ly:music-property m 'elements)))
(let ((es (ly:music-property m 'elements))
(e (ly:music-property m 'element)))
(map (lambda (y) (add-text-script y)) es)
(if (ly:music? e)
(add-text-script e
m)
#(define get-text (lambda (ls n)
(if (eq? n 1)
(car ls)
(get-text (cdr ls) (- n 1)
#(define (get-pitch music)
(let ((es (ly:music-property music 'elements))
(e (ly:music-property music 'element))
(p (ly:music-property music 'pitch)))
(cond
((ly:pitch? p)
(ly:pitch-semitones p))
((pair? es)
(map (lambda (x) (get-pitch x)) es))
((ly:music? e)
(get-pitch e)
#(define texts '(one two three four))
#(define msc (make-music
'SequentialMusic
'elements
(list (make-music
'EventChord
'elements
(list (make-music
'NoteEvent
'duration
(ly:make-duration 2 0 1 1)
'pitch
(ly:make-pitch 0 0 0)))
addText = #(define-music-function
(parser location m)
(ly:music?) (add-text-script m))
music = \relative c' { d }
\score {
\new Staff {
\addText { \music }
}
}
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Transform score file before rendering
Hi,
For a microtonal piece I'm working on, using a 43-tone scale, I would
like to enter the music diatonically, so to speak, and tranform it to
microtonal notation at a later stage. In other words, if I enter c I
get the first note of the 43-tone scale, cis the second note, and if I
enter c' I get the 13th note, and so forth. This may seem like an odd
way of doing things, but I want to be able to quckly write down what I
play using the microtonal scale, which I have layed out in this manner
on a keyboard.
The notation I will use ultimately is the pitch with its deviation in
cents (possibly also indicating the fraction) like this:
g'^\markup { \column { \center-align { {(+2)} {3/2} } } }
Do anyone have a suggestion of a good way to do this? Would it be
possible to do the mapping using a custom scheme function (sorry if
this is a stupid question but it's been a while since I tried out
Lilyponds scheme interface)? Or would I be better off doing the
transform using perl or some other 'external' scripting language
Thanks also to all the developers and contributers for a great piece
of software!
best,
/Henrik
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Fwd: Text fonts
Sorry, forgot to CC the list... -- Forwarded message -- From: Henrik Frisk fris...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 9:55 AM Subject: Re: Text fonts To: Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org but I'm guessing /usr/share/fonts is just as good Well, yes, but I consider it a bad thing to install local stuff into the /usr tree. A better place is /usr/local/share/fonts. However, you should check /etc/fonts/conf.d whether this directory is scanned by fontconfig by default. Alas, there isn't a GUI for fontconfig yet, as far as I know, which would greatly simplify the manipulation of such issues. I can live without the GUI now that I know what to look for and where to find it. But, yes, I guess it would be nice. (since that's where the lilypond fonts live)? This is the wrong reason. LilyPond fonts could be installed at any place since it explicitly tells fontconfig to scan its own font directory. As I said, I know very little about fonts... How and when does Lilypond/fontconfig scan for new fonts? /Henrik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Text fonts
Hi all,
I'm using a font all the time in LaTeX (Adobe's Frutiger) that I
select in my LaTeX documents with
\renewcommand{\rmdefault}{pfr}
Can I make this font selectable in Lilypond, and if so, how would I do
it? It doesn't show up in when I run:
$ lilypond -dshow-available-fonts x
I have to admit I know very little about fonts so please excuse me if
this is covered by the manual or is plain impossible. I'm running
Fedora13.
Thanks for any help,
/Henrik
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Make a \draw-line a dotted-line?
Hi,
Is it possible to make something like
relative c' {
c4 ^\markup { \draw-line #'(0 . 3) }
}
and have the resulting line be dotted or dashed?
I can read here
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Graphic that the
\draw-line has a #'thickness property but I'm not sure if it is the *only*
settable property. If it is not, where in the documentation can I find its
properties?
Thanks for any hints!
/Henrik
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TextScript, \column and line height
Hi,
I have been away from the list for a while (but it feels good to be back!)
and I'm sorry if this question has been up recently.
In a score I'm working on I have to do a fair amount of text mark ups like:
\markup {
\column {
Rear Right
Front Right
}
}
With the font I'm using the distance between the lines is too big. Is there
a way to tweak this globally? What I'm doing right now is using \raise on
the second line.
Thanks for any hints and thanks for all the great work with Lilypond!
/Henrik
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Re: TextScript, \column and line height
Hi Kieren,
[snip]
Globally, you can use
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\override TextScript #'baseline-skip = #1.2
}
}
Hope this helps!
It sure does. It was exactly what I was looking for. Now that I see it I
wonder why I couldn't figure it out myself...
Thanks,
/Henrik
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Re: Arrow arpeggio
Is there any easy solution to make an arrow (up or down) out of an arpeggio? Somenthing like \arpeggioUp or \arpeggioDown but instead of getting a zigzag line, get a straight arrowed line. I'd be interested in this too. From property-init.ly you can see that the stencil for the arpeggion object can be changed. Here's how it's set for the bracket: \override Arpeggio #'stencil = #ly:arpeggio::brew-chord-bracket Anybody knows if, and in that case how, to pass this object another stencil that draws a line? In safe-lily.scm only two values are listed for the ly:arpeggio: 'print' and 'brew-chord-bracket' /henrik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: master file in emacs lilypond mode
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working on a piece where what I'm editing is the include files, but what I want to run lilypond on is a master file. I've been enjoying just saying C-c C-l to run lilypond, but I can't figure out how to tell lilypond what the master file is. But why don't you use a Makefile instead? Hi Laura, Here's an example Makefile that I use. Feel free to do what you want with it! Basically, you put all your include .ly files in the SOURCES variable and your main file in the MAIN_LY variable. Then, in emacs, run M-x compile and run 'make [optional args] prepare'. Also you may change the location of your binaries depending on your system. Let me know of any questions you may have. HOME = ./ OUT_DIR = $(HOME)out/ LILY = /usr/bin/lilypond LILYARGS = -dno-point-and-click LILYBOOK = /sw/bin/lilypond-book TEX = /usr/bin/latex DVIPS = /usr/bin/dvips VIEWER = /usr/bin/gv --watch PS2PDF = /usr/bin/ps2pdf DVIPS_ARGS = -o -Ppdf -h LILYBOOK_ARGS = --output=$(OUT_DIR) --psfonts PRINTER = -PMHM-X200 -o PageSize=A4,Duplex=DuplexNoTumble MAIN_LY = score.ly SOURCES = sixstrings.chords.guit1.ly \ sixstrings.chords.guit2.ly \ sixstrings.chords.guit1-2.ly \ sixstrings.chords.guit2-2.ly \ $(MAIN_LY) nomenclatura : $(HOME)nomenclatura.tex $(LILYBOOK) $(LILYBOOK_ARGS) $ cd $(OUT_DIR); \ $(TEX) $@ cd $(OUT_DIR); \ $(DVIPS) $(DVIPS_ARGS)[EMAIL PROTECTED] $@ cd $(OUT_DIR); \ $(PS2PDF) [EMAIL PROTECTED] score : repetition.music.ly $(MAIN_LY) $(LILY) $@ $(VIEWER) [EMAIL PROTECTED] print : prepare lpr $(PRINTER) score.pdf view : prepare $(VIEWER) $(OUT_DIR)nomenclatura.ps prepare : $(SOURCES) $(LILY) $(LILYARGS) $(MAIN_LY) prepareEPS : $(SOURCES) $(LILY) $(LILYARGS) --backend=eps $(MAIN_LY) preparePS : $(SOURCES) $(LILY) $(LILYARGS) --backend=ps $(MAIN_LY) preview : $(LILY) $(LILYARGS) --preview $(MAIN_LY) prepareSVG: $(SOURCES) $(LILY) $(LILYARGS) --backend=svg $(MAIN_LY)___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Making tails of 1/8-notes invisible?
Is there a way to make the tails of un-beamed 1/8-notes invisible in Lilypond? You can always change the space a note occupies by multiplying its duration with some value. E.g. c4*0.5 would make a quarter note that takes up the space of an 1/8th note, i.e. an 1/8th note without a flag. Not sure if this is what you're asking about though... My colleague has discovered how to get Lilypond to make note- heads white no matter what the note-length is, If you only change the way a notehead *looks* you're not changing its duration so it sounds like you're on the right track. Again, I'm not sure I understand the issue. /Henrik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: dotted vertical lines between notes
Hi,
Here's a cleaner, jazzier version; and it only took me four months.
Sorry I missed this thread...
I've used dotted lines between notes for some scores.
For rhytmically unison notes I use GridLines. In the score I set
gridInterval = #(ly:make-moment 1 16)
and I make the it the default behaviour for the GridLine to be
transparent. Then, each time I want a GridLine I do:
\override Score.GridLine #'transparent = ##f
Now, for adjacent notes that are not rhythmically unison, or if I want a
vertical line between only two out of three or more staves, I use 'empty'
TextSpanners with the #'rotation property. It's tricky and requires a
lot of tweaking but here's an example (adding only one line to the
example suplied by fairchild):
%
\version 2.10.17
ViolinI = \new Staff {
\relative c' {
\override TextSpanner #'edge-text = #'( . )
\override TextSpanner #'dash-fraction = #0.2
\override TextSpanner #'dash-period = #1
\override TextSpanner #'thickness = #1
\override TextSpanner #'Y-offset = #-4
\override TextSpanner #'rotation = #'(-64 -1 0)
\override TextSpanner #'extra-offset = #'(0.6 . -0.5)
g a\startTextSpan
d, e\stopTextSpan
f g
a b
c d
e } }
ViolinII = \new Staff {
\relative c' { e f g a } }
Viola = \new Staff {
\clef alto \relative c' { e f g a b d, e f g a b c d } }
\score { \ViolinI \ViolinII \Viola }
%
I started out using the postscript version, but somehow I feel the
Textspanner is easier.
At one point I asked the list about how to make GridLines dashed or
dotted for this matter:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2006-08/msg00503.html
but, despite my efforts I haven't succeeded. The work-around is to make
it of a lighter shade of grey and as thin as possible. In a BW print
out the GridLines are as good as dotted.
\override Score.GridLine #'thickness = #0.1
\override Score.GridLine #'color = #grey
If someone knows how to make them dotted (for real) please let me know!
/Henrik Frisk
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Re: Sponsorhip offer: slash on beamed grace notes
Hi Jamie, This is a feature request relating to the following thread: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2006-12/msg00253.html I would be happy to use this solution, but the slash is too short. Perhaps I could invent some other hack by inserting postscript directly into the score, but I would rather sponsor a new a feature and see it integrated into Lilypond properly. The only example I could find is in the Common Music Notation manual: http://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/cmn/cmn/png/grace.png Any takers? I'd be in to this. Though I would like the slash to be more slanted and be more to the center of the beam than what it is in the last two groups of beamed grace notes in the cmn example above. I think I have a couple of nice looking examples of this in printed (published) scores at home. I'll check tonite and see if I can make a scan. /henrik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: collision between rest of one voice and the notes of the other voice
\relative c' { {c c c c} \\ {R1} }
In the output there is a collision between the rest of the second voice and
the notes of the first voice.
The right solution would be to put the rest on a ledger line and to lower it
until no collision occures.
Is there a reason why lilypond doesn't to that?
Is it possible to force lilypond to put the rest on a ledger line? Or at
least
to correct the output somehow manually?
You can always put the rest at the position of a note e.g. d'1\rest
Best
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Re: collision between rest of one voice and the notes of the other voice
Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Henrik Frisk wrote:
\relative c' { {c c c c} \\ {R1} }
In the output there is a collision between the rest of the second
voice and the notes of the first voice.
The right solution would be to put the rest on a ledger line and to
lower it until no collision occures.
Is there a reason why lilypond doesn't to that?
Is it possible to force lilypond to put the rest on a ledger line?
Or at least to correct the output somehow manually?
You can always put the rest at the position of a note e.g. d'1\rest
That's not a good idea, considering the difference between r1 and R1
(the former
should never be used in 4/4 music, according to typesetting practice).
Right... but it is an option
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Re:warning: Ignoring grob for slur. avoid-slur not set?
{c'( d'^\flageolet)}
gives the warning:
Ignoring grob for slur. avoid-slur not set?
Michael: you can't get rid of this warning right now. Maybe in a
future
version.
Devel: could we set avoid-slur to something by default? If
there isn't
a specific value in scm/script.scm, use (avoid-slur . around) ?
perhaps we should just remove the warning.
Please do. I get tons of them at the moment and it makes it really
difficult to see the important warnings.
/Henrik
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Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 46, Issue 59
Hi, Still working on edge-text adjustments ... In the snippet below, I've got exactly what I want -- thanks to much help from the list -- with the one exception that the padding of the two vertical spanners is off-center relative to each piece of edge text. Notice that the solid horizontal line runs into the (lefthand sides) of the b and c edge text (though the righthand sides are nicely cushioned by whitespace). To get what I think you want, I use combinations of #'bound-padding and #'extra-offset. In your example I would decrease the #'bound-padding (which, btw can take float values and values greater/smaller than -1 to 1) and use #'extra-offset = (-1.0 . 0.) to move the entire spanner to the left. It's tricky and time consuming but works. In your example it would work for the first spanner, I'm not sure about the second. So the question is: Is there a way to control left- and right-bound-padding independently?. I'd like to say something like ... \override TextSpanner #'bound-padding-left = #1 \override TextSpanner #'bound-padding-right = #2 I would love this! /henrik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 46, Issue 59
Sorry for not editing the Subject in my reply... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Trevor Ba?a [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/20/06, Henrik Frisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Still working on edge-text adjustments ... In the snippet below, I've got exactly what I want -- thanks to much help from the list -- with the one exception that the padding of the two vertical spanners is off-center relative to each piece of edge text. Notice that the solid horizontal line runs into the (lefthand sides) of the b and c edge text (though the righthand sides are nicely cushioned by whitespace). To get what I think you want, I use combinations of #'bound-padding and #'extra-offset. In your example I would decrease the #'bound-padding (which, btw can take float values and values greater/smaller than -1 to 1) and use #'extra-offset = (-1.0 . 0.) to move the entire spanner to the left. It's tricky and time consuming but works. In your example it would work for the first spanner, I'm not sure about the second. Hi Henrik, Hm ... adding in #'extra-offset was my first instinct ... but while, say, #'(-1 . 0) moves the solid horizontal line to the left (which is good), it also moves the edge text to the left (which is bad, because it throws off the horizontal centering of the edge text underneath the notehead); see attached. Am I missing something? Is there some way to move the edge text a indepdently of the solid horizontal line? As another approach, Is there a way to shorten the X-extent of the spanner altogether? Sorry, I replied too quickly. It's of course the #'enclose-bounds property you should use in combination with #'extra-offset. So, in my reply replace bound-padding with enclose-bounds... enclose-bounds makes the line shorter AND moves the edge-text along with it. So after you've made it shorter, you move the entire spanner. So the question is: Is there a way to control left- and right-bound-padding independently?. I'd like to say something like ... \override TextSpanner #'bound-padding-left = #1 \override TextSpanner #'bound-padding-right = #2 I would love this! Maybe a possibility for sponsorship? Sure! /Henrik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Rotated (instrument name) text
Mark Pim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Version 2.8.6 under WinXP
Is there any way to rotate a markup (specifically an instrument name) by 90
degrees?
See the snippet below.
\score {
\relative c' {
c4^\markup {\rotate #90.0 {hello}}
c4^\markup {\column {h e l l o}}
}
}
Best,
/Henrik
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Re: Benefits of OS X binary vs. Fink version?
Benjamin Esham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I use Mac OS X, and have Lilypond installed with Fink. Recently, however, with the transition to Intel hardware, the latest version of Lilypond available there is 2.6.3. (2.8.2 is listed, but does not compile for me.) What are the advantages and disadvantages of downloading the official pre-built version and running that from the command line? Will that version recognize the relevant parts of the Fink installation, or does it provide all of its own stuff? Thanks for any guidance here. I've noticed that the Fink version is lacking behind. Some time ago I aproached the maintainer about this and, at the time, he said he thought it wasn't usefule to maintain the Fink version of Lilypond as there was a binary version available. I convinced him that there is a reason to have keep the Fink version updated, but recently there hasn't been any updates on the Fink version which has made me start using the binaries. I would however personally prefer to use the Fink version. However, from a user perspective there's no difference. The one thing that gets to me is I don't (automatically) have access to the texinfo docs with the binary version. The Lilypond binary doesn't reference any external libraries but comes with everything it needs. Perhaps aproaching the maintainer again will make him keep Lilypond up to date? Best, /henrik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Benefits of OS X binary vs. Fink version?
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Re: Adding a little horz. space between 2 bumping notes
Rick Hansen (aka RickH) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apparently there are numerous ways to insert horizontal whitespace. I most frequently adjust the force-hshift property of the NoteColumn object. However, in your example you would have to move both the top voice (the C after the F) and the lower part of the same chord = more typing... (I left the invisible string indicator out so that my example would cause the issue.) Ahh, sorry. I read your message too quickly. /henrik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
postscrip markup broken in 2.9
Hi, I just noticed that the \postscript markup command is broken in 2.9. I first thought I was doing something wrong, but when I looked in the documentation to check the syntax I noticed that in the 2.9 docs there's no output of the PS commands in the Tips and Tricks section. /henrik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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Re: Adding a little horz. space between 2 bumping notes
Rick Hansen (aka RickH) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To see the change just add or remove th \6 string indicator after
the f,, note and you'll see what happens.
It's not there...
You can increase the f's #'X-extent to add space after it. For example,
\override NoteColumn #'X-extent = #'(4. . 4.) will add an fair amount
of space.
varVoiceInner = \relative c'' {
%% \once \override StringNumber #'transparent = ##t
\once \override NoteColumn #'X-extent = #'(4. . 4.)
f,,2 s2
}
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Re: tweak of the crescendotext
yota [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
is such a dynamic indication a TextScript or a DynamicText or something else
?... I tried some tweaks but everything failed.
At the bottom of this page:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.9/Documentation/user/lilypond/Dynamics.html#Dynamics
I found the answer to your question. It's the DynamicTextSpanner object
that has to be tweaked. Adding the override below moves your cresc
marking down and to the left (the firs number in the list (-5) moves it
to the left, and the second moves it down).
I personally like the extra-offset property since it allows me to move
an object in any way with only one command. I would assume that 'padding'
and 'center-align' properties would also work. The extra-offset property
is defined in the 'grob-interface' which is inherited by most
objects. The way to find out which preperties can be tweaked for a
particualr object is to look in the documentation (Dynamics in this
case) and check the name of the object. This name is hyperlinked to the
Program Reference in which the properties for this object are
listed. Further, the interfaces supported by that object are linked from
this page and those proerties can also be set through this object. All
that may or may not help you understand the documentation better ;-).
best,
/Henrik
\set crescendoText = \markup { \italic poco a poco cresc. }
\set crescendoSpanner = #'dashed-line
\override DynamicTextSpanner #'extra-offset = #'(-5.0 . -3.0)
r4 \times 2/3 { a8-( \accent \ bes a) \!} r4
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Re: tweak of the crescendotext
Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Henrik Frisk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I personally like the extra-offset property since it allows me to move an object in any way with only one command. I would assume that 'padding' and 'center-align' properties would also work. I hope you know that there is an important difference between extra-offset and the other properties that can be used to move things around. If you for example increase the padding, then LilyPond will take that fact into account when it calculates the placement of the next stave, for example, to avoid collisions. However, if you set extra-offset, then only that specific object will move and everything else will stay fixed. Sometimes that's preferable, but sometimes not. Thanks Mats, I should of course have mentioned that. It's precisely this fact that makes extra-offset so useful to me. /henrik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Prevent Collision of Tuplet Brackets ???
Ben Hoefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a PianoStaff and there is a triplet bracket at the top stave overlapping a triplet bracket at the bottom stave :-(( What can I do to prevent any collision between the two brackets? You will want to look at the #'direction, #'positions and #'padding properties of TupletBracket. For example: \override TupletBracket #'direction = #UP For all the properties look at http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.8/Documentation/user/lilypond-internals/TupletBracket.html#TupletBracket /henrik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Crossing of Voices in Polyphonic Music ?
Now I want to do more than just type these notes: I want to indicate the crossing of the two voices by means of a line (better: two lines) - a symbolism I've often seen in polyphonic scores. Use \glissando - it prints a line between two adjacent notes. There's the followVoice property (see Regression Tests in the docuumentation section and search for followVoice) but I believe that's only if a voice also changes staff. /henrik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Finally I found out about \myStaffSize 20
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Re: Shortening ties
Stewart Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.9/Documentation/user/lilypond/Laissez-vibrer-ties.html
Is that of any use? You can use LaissezVibrerTieColumn #'X-extent to
lengthen them to your desired length.
Unfortunately that will not do it (as someone else pointed out in this
thread X-extent doesn't actually change the size of an object). If you
want detailed control over ties or LaissezVibrer ties you can use
the property #'control-points though it is kind of tricky and not very
well documented. It takes a list of four number pairs as its argument
#'((x . y) (x . y) (x . y) (x . y)
These coordinates are the control points of the tie (beginning, before
middle, after middle, end). With this you can actually draw some pretty
wild shapes!
%% begin snippet
\version 2.9.11
\score {
\new Staff \relative c' {
c4 \laissezVibrer s4*3 |
\once \override LaissezVibrerTie #'control-points = #'((0.75 . -4) (2 .
-4.5) (4 . -4.5) (6 . -4))
c4 \laissezVibrer s4*3 |
s4*4 |
}
}
\paper {
ragged-right = ##t
}
%% end snippet
/henrik
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More on colliding tuplet brackets.
Hi,
Here's another thing relating to tuplet brackets. Can someone please
help on how to uncollide these brackets of the nested tuplets. I've run
out of options, though I might be overlooking something...
Thanks!
/henrik
\version 2.9.14
\score {
\new Staff {
\relative c'' {
\voiceOne
{
\times 4/5 {
\times 2/3 {
c8 c c
}
c4 c c c
}
}
\new Voice=nather {
\voiceTwo
a4 a a a
}
}
}
}
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Re: More on colliding tuplet brackets.
Markus Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Henrik,
the problem is to move apart the two consecutive \time n/m {} statements,
so that the overrides only affect one set of tuplets.
See two examples below. The first one reports a warning: ignoring too many
clashing note columns - but typesetting is optimal IMO, second one compiles
without warning but adds space between the time-signature and the first note
due to the added skip. Unfortunately s1*0 won't do the job!
Thanks Markus! I don't mind so much the extra space and the second
option is clearer to me. I added a
\set Score.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 129 128)
(for a 4/4 bar) so I wouldn't have to do the extra math at the end of
the bar to compensate.
To the developers: Is there a way that this could be worked out in a
more straight forward manner?
Best,
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Re: Getting rid of redundant tuplet brackets in combined voices
Markus Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Henrik,
However, I would imagine you could put a
\override Voice.TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##t
\override Voice.TupletNumber #'transparent = ##t
if I pass this to the first voice, all brackets and numbers vanish; passed
to the second voice, nothing happens at all (ie still double
brackets/numbers).
This is odd. Your file does exactly what I thought was what you
wanted. As a matter of fact, I can't even force it to show the tuplet
brackets of voice two unless I display it by itself. I don't get the
redundant brackets (OSX 2.9.14).
The fine manual states in 8.3.1 Automatic part combining that the voice
contexts inside \partcombine are referred to one and two. Is it possible
to send these overrides to only one of these contexts?
That's what you do in your file below. You do the override within the
voice that you want to affect. That override will not have an effect in
the other Voice, which has its own context.
In the modified file below Staff 1 and 3 produces the same output, staff
2 has no brackets.
%%% Begin snippet
\version 2.9.14
%%% if using 2.9.13 or earlier, modify the instrument/instrumentName variables
%%% below accordingly!
tupletsI = \relative c' {
| \times 2/3 { c4 d e f g a }
}
tupletsII = \relative c'' {
| \times 2/3 { b4 c d e f g }
}
% Top voice
VoiceI = {
\tupletsI
\tupletsII
}
% Bottom voice
VoiceII = {
\tupletsI
\tupletsI
}
\score {
\set Score.tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 2)
\new Staff {
\set Staff.instrumentName =
\markup \column { combined voices print
redundant tuplet brackets }
\partcombine
{ \VoiceI }
{ \VoiceII }
}
\new Staff {
\set Staff.instrumentName =
\markup \column { voice I only; tuplet brackets
removed using \override }
\override Staff.TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##f
\override Staff.TupletNumber #'transparent = ##t
\VoiceI
}
\new Staff {
\set Staff.instrumentName =
\markup \column { overrides sent to voice I using
specific voice \one\ context
\italic - does work :-) }
\partcombine
\context Voice = one {
\VoiceI
}
{
\override Voice.TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##t
\override Voice.TupletNumber #'transparent = ##f
\VoiceII }
}
\layout {
indent = 5\cm
ragged-right = ##t
}
}
%%% End Snippet
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Re: Getting rid of redundant tuplet brackets in combined voices
Hi,
Unfortunately I couldn't compile your file (LilyPond exits with
segmentation fault or bus error) - this is in Lily 2.9.13.
However, I would imagine you could put a
\override Voice.TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##t
\override Voice.TupletNumber #'transparent = ##t
before your \times statement in your \tupletsII voice. I would also imagine you
could put that
before your \tupletII include in the VoiceII.
But, I haven't tried it...
best,
Henrik
Hello all,
I'm trying to get rid of redundant tuplet brackets in combined voices using
\partcombine.
First I explored a way using the \tag-feature, but this leads to excessive
changes in the original music, so I discarded this.
A different approach is to create a quoted voice, where time-scaled-music
is removed from Staff.quotedEventTypes, which works well in itself. But when
passing this new, time-scaled-music-free voice/variable into \partcombine,
it won't show up, regardless if as first or second music expression. See
attachment and code below for 2.8.4.
I'm happy for any input whatsoever!
Thanks in advance!
Markus
%%% Begin Snippet
\version 2.8.4
tupletsI = \relative c' {
| \times 2/3 { c4 d e f g a }
}
tupletsII = \relative c'' {
| \times 2/3 { b4 c d e f g }
}
% Top voice
VoiceI = {
\tupletsI
\tupletsII
}
% Bottom voice
VoiceII = {
\tupletsI
\tupletsI
}
% Create quotation for removing time-scaled-music later
\addquote musicAIforPartCombine \VoiceI
VoiceIForCombine = {
% Remove time-scaled-music
\set Staff.quotedEventTypes = #'(note-event rest-event tie-event
beam-event)
s1*0 % without this, junking event messages will pop up
\quoteDuring #musicAIforPartCombine { #(ly:export (skip-of-length
VoiceI)) }
}
\score { {
\set Score.tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 2)
\new Staff {
\set Staff.instrument = \markup \column { combined voices print
redundant tuplet brackets }
\partcombine
{ \VoiceI }
{ \VoiceII }
}
\new Staff {
\set Staff.instrument = \markup \column { voice I only; tuplet
brackets removed using \quoteDuring }
\VoiceIForCombine
}
\new Staff {
\set Staff.instrument = \markup \column { quoted music doesn't show
in combined music }
\partcombine
{ \VoiceIForCombine }
{ \VoiceII }
}
}
\layout {
indent = 5\cm
ragged-right = ##t
}
}
%%% End Snippet
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BendAfter issues
Hi,
I just found the very handy BendAfter object. However, as can be seen in
the example below the bend collides with the dot. This only happens on
notes in the spaces, i.e. not the ones on the lines.
It also throws a warning:
warning: programming error: bounds of this piece aren't breakable.
To fix the collission use
\override BendAfter #'extra-offset = #'(1.0 . -.0)
to move the symbol away from the dot.
\version 2.9.11
\score {
\new Staff \relative c' {
\time 4/4
g''4.-\bendAfter #+1
}
}
\paper {
ragged-right = ##t
}
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Re: beaming and tuplets
The tuplet bracket in the example below has to be manually adjusted when
I beam the 16th note triplet with the rests. It has a slant in the wrong
direction and collides with the beam.
\version 2.9.11
\new Staff \relative c' {
\times 2/3 { d16 [
e r16
} r8 ]
}
/Henrik
Any progress on this? I also reported it several weeks ago.
Thanks,
Paul Scott
I didn't hear anything from the list, no. I just adjust it manually for
the time being.
best,
/henrik
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Re: Double time signatures
OK, I had a feeling I had seen something about it. What throws me off
here is that it's the redundant \time command in the second staff that
makes the difference.
Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please read the section on grace notes in the manual.
/Mats
Henrik Frisk wrote:
Hi,
Just noticed an odd thing with time signatures. The following prints
double time signatures at the beginning of a bar:
\version 2.9.11
\score {
\new Staff \relative c' {
\time 8/8
\acciaccatura c16
c4 d4 r4 r4
}
\new Staff \relative c' {
\time 8/8
s4 s4 r4 r4
}
}
Remove the \time 8/8 in the second staff and everythings back to
normal. It only happens when there's a grace note at the beginning of
the bar which leads me to believe that this is a bug???
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Double time signatures
Hi,
Just noticed an odd thing with time signatures. The following prints
double time signatures at the beginning of a bar:
\version 2.9.11
\score {
\new Staff \relative c' {
\time 8/8
\acciaccatura c16
c4 d4 r4 r4
}
\new Staff \relative c' {
\time 8/8
s4 s4 r4 r4
}
}
Remove the \time 8/8 in the second staff and everythings back to
normal. It only happens when there's a grace note at the beginning of
the bar which leads me to believe that this is a bug???
/henrik
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convert-ly error (Was: avoid-slur not set)
The subject on this message was wrong. Sorry about that. Dunno what
happend...
---BeginMessage---
Hello,
I've been away from the list for some time. Noticed
that convert-ly erroneously (?) changed my \epsfile markups in a file
version 2.7.15 to \\epsfile when updating it to 2.9.13. This is on the
OSX version.
\version 2.7.15
\new Staff \relative c' {
c4^\markup {\epsfile #nss.eps}
}
results in
\version 2.9.11
\new Staff \relative c' {
c4^\markup {\\epsfile #X #10 #nss.eps}
}
/henrik
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avoid-slur not set
Hello,
I've been away from the list for some time. Noticed
that convert-ly erroneously (?) changed my \epsfile markups in a file
version 2.7.15 to \\epsfile when updating it to 2.9.13. This is on the
OSX version.
\version 2.7.15
\new Staff \relative c' {
c4^\markup {\epsfile #nss.eps}
}
results in
\version 2.9.11
\new Staff \relative c' {
c4^\markup {\\epsfile #X #10 #nss.eps}
}
/henrik
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beaming and tuplets
Hello again,
The tuplet bracket in the example below has to be manually adjusted when
I beam the 16th note triplet with the rests. It has a slant in the wrong
direction and collides with the beam.
\version 2.9.11
\new Staff \relative c' {
\times 2/3 {
d16 [
e r16
} r8 ]
}
/Henrik
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Re: lilypond and inkscape (again)
I would really appreciate it if the fonts where included in the output. As I have not been successful in getting the fonts to load in They are. The problem is that most SVG renderers (including Inkscape and Firefox) don't handle the font tag, which means that they don't understand our embedded fonts. OK. Out of curiousity; why does the method of importing an eps, exporting it to svg in Scribus work? (this whole thing is a bit of a mystery to me...) Because then, each character is expanded into penstrokes That's what I thought. Now, relating to the discussion earlier in this thread: I did some more testing and for those that are interested in editing a svg in Inkscape, you have to create the eps through the convert utility of imagemagick and not use the lilypond -- backend=eps for it to work properly. Unless, of course, you manage to get the fonts to work in Inkscape in which case you can just use the svg backend in lilypond... /henrik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond and inkscape (again)
[lilypond svg] I would really appreciate it if the fonts where included in the output. As I have not been successful in getting the fonts to load in They are. The problem is that most SVG renderers (including Inkscape and Firefox) don't handle the font tag, which means that they don't understand our embedded fonts. OK. Out of curiousity; why does the method of importing an eps, exporting it to svg in Scribus work? (this whole thing is a bit of a mystery to me...) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond and inkscape (again)
Take the PS output from lilypond and run it through the convert utility from the imagemagick package to create an EPS (convert output.ps output.eps) import the EPS into Scribus and save as SVG. This SVG opens in Scribus (obviously :)), Inkscape and Adobe Illustrator as it is. This is obviously kind of a lengthy process. The PS to EPS conversion is because Scribus seems to handle EPS better than PS. well, it works :-) but, why not use lilypond to generate the eps? I don't remember, but I think, at the time I worked this out, Scribus had issues with the Lilypond EPS file but not the imagemagick. Or, it was just ignorance from my side to acknowledge that Lily actually did export EPS... ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond and inkscape (again)
Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: unlikely, as we're not putting the SVG fonts inside the svg output anyway. We are not? Why is that, I'm sure we did before. SVG files without fonts will be useless for use on the web, as we cannot hope that all clients have feta installed? I would really appreciate it if the fonts where included in the output. As I have not been successful in getting the fonts to load in Inkscape I have worked out a workaround. Take the PS output from lilypond and run it through the convert utility from the imagemagick package to create an EPS (convert output.ps output.eps) import the EPS into Scribus and save as SVG. This SVG opens in Scribus (obviously :)), Inkscape and Adobe Illustrator as it is. This is obviously kind of a lengthy process. The PS to EPS conversion is because Scribus seems to handle EPS better than PS. /Henrik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Invisible notes, Scheme contexts
Nicolas Sceaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wonder whether this should be changed too. This would mean that \clef alto \clef alto becomes \clef #alto or \clef #'alto This will simplify the syntax a bit, at the expense ease of entry. What do you think? I see some cases where this would be clearly a win. Few weeks ago, a singer asked me to change all alto clefs to treble clefs in a voice+piano reduction score. Just redefining the \clef music function would have made that really easy and quick. The more music functions there are, and the less hardcoded syntax is, the more extensible and flexible LilyPond is. Ideally, even \include should be some kind of (not only-)music function, so that users could define their own \include version (for including different files depending on some parameters for instance, or adding a path). I agree, it sounds like a good idea. /Henrik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Scribus - alternative to lilybook?
Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Henrik Frisk wrote: That would actually be pretty neat... Sponsored feature, anyone? This sounds interesting, although I'm not quite sure what you mean. Once I've imported a pdf into Scribus your suggestion would allow me to edit the .ly file and then have the plugin render the new pdf and replace it with the old one? Yes, but then the .ly would be editable from within Scribus, so you only have to import a .ly , or enter it from scratch. If that's possible I'm up for a share of the cost. That would be cool. It would be significant amount of work, since I'd have to get familiar with Scribus and its plugin interface. I'd guess that this would be 1000 eur or 2000 eur, in order of magnitude. Let's see if we can create an interest in this. I think this would be a valuable addition to LilyPond. Anybody willing to co-sponsor? /henrik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Scribus - alternative to lilybook?
Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arthur Dyck wrote: I haven't seen anything on this list about Scribus, a linux-based desktop publishing program. I have been playing with it and it has some interesting features. Basically, you define your page size with borders and then create text or image boxes for your input. You can import lilypond pdf images directly into your image box. You can then put transparent text boxes on top of your image allowing you to do anykind of markup anywhere. I wouldn't recommend it for a an ordinary sheet of music, but I think it adds some interesting possibilites. I am trying to learn how to use it and how to use Lilypond at the same time as I'm working on a liturgy, so it's making for some long -- but fun -- days. I think Scribus has a python interface, so you could write a little plugin that takes .ly code, runs it through lily, and pasts back the resulting PDF files. That would actually be pretty neat... Sponsored feature, anyone? This sounds interesting, although I'm not quite sure what you mean. Once I've imported a pdf into Scribus your suggestion would allow me to edit the .ly file and then have the plugin render the new pdf and replace it with the old one? If that's possible I'm up for a share of the cost. /Henrik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Including artwork
Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thomas Scharkowski wrote: Hi Mats, FYI: I have downloaded box.eps from your site and it worked. I will respect your warning - I had tried different eps-files from different sources and none of them worked - except box.eps you provided. Thomas my limited experiments indicated that it was related to the size of the EPS file. However, the \eps-file was a cute hack, and I left after I couldn't get it to work directly; maybe I should just remove it. I can put it back on the agenda as a sponsored feature/bugfix, though. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen I haven't been following this thread but I rely on the \epsfile for many things and it has been working fine for me. If you are actually considering removing it add me to the list of possible sponsors. I would in that case also request the option to resize the EPS (as we discussed at some point). ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Fink's Lilypond 2.6.3 and tex backend
Christian Ebert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Julien Salort on Sunday, October 09, 2005: I'm using lilypond on Mac OS X 10.4.2 installed by fink (Package manager version: 0.24.10, Distribution version: 0.8.0.rsync). It works great to output Postscript. However, I can't use the tex backend to get a DVI file. I get : % lilypond -b tex Exo.ly GNU LilyPond 2.6.3 can't open the file with dlopen: libkpathsea.so: dlopen(libkpathsea.so, 1): image not found install the package: libkpathsea3 (teTeX 2.x) or libkpathsea4 (teTeX 3.x) It seems to me that libkpathsea4 *is* installed : % fink list kpathsea Information about 5031 packages read in 1 seconds. i libkpathsea4 3.0-2Complete distribution of the TeX typesett... i libkpathsea4... 3.0-2Shared libraries for a teTeX installation However, I don't have any libkpathsea.so on my computer. I only have : /sw/lib/libkpathsea.4.0.0.dylib /sw/lib/libkpathsea.4.dylib /sw/lib/libkpathsea.a /sw/lib/libkpathsea.dylib /sw/lib/libkpathsea.la The same holds true for a self compiled teTeX and lilypond on MacOS 10.3.9 and libkpathsea in /usr/local/teTeX/lib. I wanted to try the fink package (which would have meant to get another teTeX less customized for my needs) but apparently it has the same issue. When lilypond was at 1.+ using lilypond-book worked just fine. And this is what I need because I want to use lilypond note engraving /inside/ LaTeX-documents mainly and also use the fonts that are set up in my teTeX for e.g song lyrics. I also tried the installation via disk image but it is useless for that purpose too. Is there a way to solve this problem ? Is there? I thought I had the tex backend working on my system (OSX + Fink) but it must have been with lilypond-book - I get the same error. I have forwarded this to the Fink package maintainer (maybe you have already done that). ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Command line interface for Mac OS X
Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12-Oct-05, at 5:36 PM, E M wrote: It would be helpful if there was a way to batch process files, especially without the gui. Is there a command line version that will work on the mac? Absolutely! Read the README that comes with the OSX package. Graham Furthermore, if you are into using Lilypond in CL I can recommend the Fink 'version' - http://fink.sourceforge.net. The maintainer keeps it up to date with the stable as well as unstable releases. /Henrik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: change staff within chord?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello list, how would i change the staff within a chord (it is important that the necks keep connected across the staves? the \change Staff command doesn't work within the chord ... . You can remove the stem from the upper staff notes, and extend the stem from the lower staff notes. stemRemove = \once \override Stem #'length =1 noFlag = \once \override Stem #'flag-style = #'no-flag stemExtend = \once \override Stem #'length = #10 Of course you need to adjust the length of the stem until it looks good... If you want the chords to be beamed it gets a little more complicated. I don't quite remember how I did it but the above should work in your example. /henrik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Fw: PDF Viewing / Updating a score
Trent Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, Firstly the required out the way: Platform: Windows XP Lilypond Version: 2.7.8 I have been using the new version(s) of Lilypond for a while and I find the us of PDF file a little annoying especially when fine tuning a score. You have to remember to close out of the current document before you run lilypond as the current scheme is to delete the old pdf and make the new one. So if you fail to close the score your viewing in the PDF viewer before you compile you receive an error message which means going through the sequence again remembering this time to close the document in the pdf viewer. While this is only a minor quible it becomes more noticeable when editing a large score i.e. across many pages. To make a simple adjustment say the padding of slur or dynamic this becomes frustrating as you need to close down the pdf file, make the adjustment and then manually load newly generated pdf back into the pdf viewer and then try and find the page and staff to where you made the adjustment. This can be very annoying and slow down the work rate especially when you are making guesses to padding / layout / making lyric corrections etc. I know in the older versions of lilypond a dvi viewer could be used as a fast an easy way to make changes. Since the newer versions only produce a .ps file and .pdf file this it out of the question. I tried using 'gsview' with the .ps file but gsview complains that there too many errors and won't display the music. I use gsview all the time especially when entering music with PMX/Musixtex and can have the .ps loaded all the time and when I update the score it refreshes the screen with the changes made while retaining the same view of the same page I was working on. This makes fine tuning scores much simplier and time efficient. You can still generate dvi output by using the tex backend. I believe the command is lilypond --backend=tex --dvi but check the manual. Is there a way to use the .ps file with gsview I know I won't be able to use point and click but since I usually number all the bars in a score I don't see this as problem and if things get a little tricky I can always go back to the pdf score to find the offending line. I don't use point and click as it is but simply use the pointer to give me the line number to go back to file to find. I don't use Windows so I can't tell why you're having problems with the ps output, but I use gv 3.6.1 which works fine with both the ps and pdf output of LilyPond. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: putting number on top of each other
hi list,
back again with some problems: is there a way to put numbers on top
of each other. i need this for the funktionssbezeichnung (sorry, i
just know the german word). right now i'm using a mixture of \super
and \override TextScript #'extra-offset tweaking (picture attached),
which is quite a pain - maybe there is an easier way?
thanks,
stephen
Perhaps you could explain what Funktionsbezeichnung is, and where
it is used? I've never seen something like this.
There's the \column command:
\markup {\column {1 2}}
/henrik
sorry, i wasn't really exact: i just realize my english is seriously
lacking some basic music- specific expressions. maybe this picture
makes cleare what I'm trying to do (this has been done with the
\column command):
the \column is close to what I'm looking for, but i would be great if
i could i change the spacing between the numbers so it is more narrow
(is there a override command for that?). \figuremode would work
(narrow spacing...), but i need the flexibility of the \lyricmode.
what would be the best way to go?
I'm not sure what the best way to go is but you can change the vertical
spacing of the \column by doing:
\markup{ \override #'(baseline-skip . 2) \column {1 2} }
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Re: putting number on top of each other
hi list,
back again with some problems: is there a way to put numbers on top
of each other. i need this for the funktionssbezeichnung (sorry, i
just know the german word). right now i'm using a mixture of \super
and \override TextScript #'extra-offset tweaking (picture attached),
which is quite a pain - maybe there is an easier way?
thanks,
stephen
There's the \column command:
\markup {\column {1 2}}
/henrik
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Re: pagebreak problem
Aaron Mehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have a document where one line falls on a second page. I tried the following: I reduced the #(set-global-staff-size 20 ) to #(set-global-staff-size 18) but that didn't help. I tried a noPageBreak before that line but when I looked at the pdf an additional line ran to the next page. There is enough room between staves however to steal room to fit that line in, but I am not sure how to sanely do this. You can set the distance between the staffs by setting (I think) Staff.minimumVerticalExtent. If you make this smaller, I would suppose you can make the two systems fit on the same page. It's documented in section 10.1.6 in the manual (http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.7/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Vertical-spacing.html). \henrik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: New slur/tie behaviour
I agree with you, but it seems to me that the terms you use, 'functionality' and 'looks' got mixed up in this thread. With the latest revision of 2.7.9 I think the functionality aspect is pretty close to 'good' as far as I can tell. /henrik Bec and John Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Henrik, It does seem that maybe trying to accommodate everyone's preference is a lost cause. Customisability should definitely be present. However, ties/slurs should function first and look beautiful second! :) With 2.7.7 I've been forced to not avoid some problems because they are too serious (not in the screenshots I sent previously). For instance, where a tie is in the same space in the staff as the note but slurs on adjacent notes are (very attractively) going over the notes - this creates a visually unbalanced look, and worse the tie is likely to go unnoticed. I think the things I've noticed, and the screenshots you posted, definitely expose things that need to be fixed. - John I have been following this discussion with interest and I have a few thoughts. I don't think it is possible to accomodate all styles and personal preferences when it comes to ties which I think this thread is proof of. I am sure the sponsored rewrite included in 2.7.7 led to a better situation for some (maybe all) users, but in the score I'm currently working on it lead to more collisions and less consistency (see the attached .png's). Now, I'm _not_ complaining, I'm OK with it. In the music that I'm working with I'm used to having to spend much time figuring out, sometimes unorthodox ways of notating things. So, the only thing I need is a good way of manually altering the defaults and this is what the tie-configuration property does. Another suggestion could be to allow for altering the defaults globally and thus make it possible for users to accomodate the tie behaviour to the set of rules that works for them. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
2.7.9 tie-dot collission
Many of the issues regarding ties brought up in the examples in a previous post
(http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-09/msg00141.html)
are resolved in 2.7.9. However, there is still a collission between ties
and dots on notes on ledger lines with ties down (notes in spaces are
fine).
% BEGIN SNIPPET %
\version 2.7.9
\layout {
raggedright = ##t
}
\score {
\new PianoStaff
\new Staff
\relative c'' {
\time 9/8
\set Score.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 10 8)
es, fes4. d fes2. \hideNotes d8 \unHideNotes |
}
\new Staff
\clef bass
\relative c {
{
s4. s4. s4 \hideNotes b'8 \unHideNotes b!8~
} \\
{
\set fontSize = #0
r4. r8. es,,8.~ es4.~ \hideNotes es8 \unHideNotes
}
}
}
%% END SNIPPET %
tiedot-collission.png
Description: image/png
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Re: New slur/tie behaviour
Werner LEMBERG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, AFAIK engraving conventions are: * outer ties point outward * double directions for seconds * direction otherwise determined by vertical position. This is correct, but doesn't work in cluster-like chords. Here are my rules again for reference: sequentially from top to bottom: + The topmost tie is always `up'. + If there is a vertical gap to the last note above larger than or equal to a fifth (or sixth?), the tie is `up', otherwise it is `down'. + The bottommost tie is always `down'. I have been following this discussion with interest and I have a few thoughts. I don't think it is possible to accomodate all styles and personal preferences when it comes to ties which I think this thread is proof of. I am sure the sponsored rewrite included in 2.7.7 led to a better situation for some (maybe all) users, but in the score I'm currently working on it lead to more collisions and less consistency (see the attached .png's). Now, I'm _not_ complaining, I'm OK with it. In the music that I'm working with I'm used to having to spend much time figuring out, sometimes unorthodox ways of notating things. So, the only thing I need is a good way of manually altering the defaults and this is what the tie-configuration property does. Another suggestion could be to allow for altering the defaults globally and thus make it possible for users to accomodate the tie behaviour to the set of rules that works for them. 263.png Description: image/png 277.png Description: image/png 263-2.png Description: image/png 277-2.png Description: image/png ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: tie-configuration question
Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cis, d2.~ \override TieColumn #'tie-configuration = #'((0 . -1) (2 . 1)) I don't understand the problem: if I change the 2 to 4, the tie moves up (2.7.8 cvs). Well it doesn't in 2.7.7, and since I can't use 2.7.8 because of the errors described in an earlier post I guess I'm stuck for the moment. At least now I know it will work. /henrik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
tie-configuration question
In a post a few weeks back I asked about the tie-configuration in
mulitiple voices. Nobody responded, so either it ws a really dumb
question - in which case I don't mind being told - or nobody understood
what I meant... In either case, here's a snippet that doesn't change the
tie behaviour. I've tried a number of different ways of coding the same
music, but as long as there is more than one voice, I can't get
tie-configuration to make a difference.
I think the recent discussions on LilyPond's new tie
behaviour has shown one thing: To a large degree it is up to musical style and
personal preference - which makes the tie-configuration command so
important (to me anyways).
% BEGIN SNIPPET %
\version 2.7.7
\score {
\new Staff
\relative c'' {
\time 6/8
{
s4. ais' bis'4.~
\set Score.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 9 8)
ais bis'4.~ \hideNotes ais bis'4. \unHideNotes
} \\
{
cis, d2.~
\override TieColumn #'tie-configuration =
#'((0 . -1) (2 . 1))
cis d4.~ \hideNotes cis d4. \unHideNotes
}
\stopStaff
s4. \bar ||
}
}
%% END SNIPPET %
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Re: 2.7.8 binary OSX encounters errors
Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 31-Aug-05, at 12:21 PM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: Henrik Frisk wrote: The same file compiles on 2.7.7 I'll have a look at this problem once I become clairvoyant. In other words, please post a small example file which produces this behavior in 2.7.8 but compiles cleanly on 2.7.7. I intended to do exactly that, but I guess the mail got sent without me attaching anything... I'll do some more checking tonite and see if I can pinpoint the error (the original file is kind of lengthy and complex...). ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Compound time signatures
Pedro Kröger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think it would also be better if the code just used numbers, and does a (format ~a NUMBER) or (number-string NUMBER) in the end. Here it is. I also made Graham's suggestion of switching the numbers, like (compound-time grob 3 16 5 8). This is a very cool example (thanks Henrik!). I think the ultimate would be to merge the 2 functions and or detect the behavior automatically or have it passed as a keyword (like compound-time :equal-div) All these suggestions make a lot of sense, and thanks Pedro for implementing it and thanks for clarifying let* as compared to define. The code looks better! I will take a look at the autobeaming suggested by Graham. I also thought about merging the two functions. Rather than using a keyword, if the function is called with divtwo==0 use equal divisor. In other words: (compound-time grob 3 8 5 8) would result in 3/8+5/8 and (compound-time grob 3 8 5 0) would give 3+5/8 (as I believe it's a matter of taste what way you want to notate it). Does that make sense? Maybe a keyword makes it simpler to understand? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Possible tie bug?
I know that improved ties are part of the 2.7 release, and I'm sure they are great. If they're not bugs, perhaps someone could help me understand these things I've brought up. Thanks! I have noticed the same thing. Don't know what to do about it except for adjusting it manually using \override TieColumn #'tie-configuration. (See an earlier post on this list). /Henrik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
2.7.8 binary OSX encounters errors
Processing a lilypond file with 2.7.8 on OSX results in the following (verbose) output: Layout output to `firstMotif27.ps'...[/Applications/LilyPond.app//Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/current/fonts/type1/PFAaybabtu.pfa][/Applications/LilyPond.app//Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/current/fonts/type1//c059016l.pfb][/Applications/LilyPond.app//Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/current/fonts/type1//c059033l.pfb][/Applications/LilyPond.app//Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/current/fonts/type1//c059013l.pfb][/Applications/LilyPond.app//Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/current/fonts/type1/PFAemmentaler-11.pfa][/Applications/LilyPond.app//Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/current/fonts/type1/PFAemmentaler-13.pfa][/Applications/LilyPond.app//Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/current/fonts/type1/PFAemmentaler-14.pfa][/Applications/LilyPond.app//Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/current/fonts/type1/PFAemmentaler-16.pfa][/Applications/LilyPond.app//Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/current/fonts/type1//feta-alphabet11.pfa][/Applications/LilyPond.app//Contents/Resour ces/share/lilypond/current/fonts/type1//feta-alphabet16.pfa][/Applications/LilyPond.app//Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/current/fonts/type1//feta-alphabet18.pfa][/Applications/LilyPond.app//Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/current/ps/music-drawing-routines.ps][/Applications/LilyPond.app//Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/current/ps/lilyponddefs.ps] programming error: infinity or NaN encountered while converting Real number continuing, cross fingers programming error: infinity or NaN encountered while converting Real number continuing, cross fingers The same file compiles on 2.7.7 /Henrik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Laissez vibrer and TieColumn (Was: Making a quarter note...)
Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Henrik Frisk wrote:
In any event I was about to put up a feature request for an
implementation for l.v.
a while ago but never got around to it.
Would you like me to send you a quote for that?
Yes, sure, I'd be interested. Kilian?
It could easily be done by
adding glyphs to the feta font with noteheads with short ties
attached to
them (that method has some drawbacks though...).
I would use the new implementation of TieColumn, because then I can
reuse all that formatting code.
Speaking of TieColumn, how do I use it in a polyphonic context (multiple
voices)?
In the following example it doesn't do anything (It does if I remove the upper
voice).
% BEGIN SNIPPET %
\version 2.7.7
\score {
\new Staff
\relative c'' {
\time 6/8
{
s4. ais' bis'4.~
\set Score.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 9 8)
ais bis'4.~ \hideNotes ais bis'4. \unHideNotes
} \\
{
cis, d2.~
\override Voice.TieColumn #'tie-configuration =
#'((0 . -1) (2 . 1))
cis d4.~ \hideNotes cis d4. \unHideNotes
} \\
\stopStaff
s4. \bar ||
}
}
%% END SNIPPET %
/henrik
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Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 33, Issue 88
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello world, I need to create a tie that stops in the middle of a bar (the final note of a piece should carry a tie to nowhere to indicate `laissez vibrer'). I'd be very glad to add proper support for l.v. ties as a sponsored feature. The syntax would be something like c e g b2\lv Mats's suggestion about scaling the durations is one way to achieve what you want. I'm doing it by changing the length of the measure with a \set Score.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 5 4 ) and put ties to invisible notes. In any event I was about to put up a feature request for an implementation for l.v. a while ago but never got around to it. It could easily be done by adding glyphs to the feta font with noteheads with short ties attached to them (that method has some drawbacks though...). /Henrik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Compound time signatures
Here's an expanded version of the compound-time.ly example in the Tips and
Tricks section. It allows for different combinations of divisions such as 3/16
+ 3/8 (provided that smaller divisions than 16ths are not used) and adjusts the
spacing accordingly. A second version of the macro allows for compound time
signatures such as 3+5/8.
Here's an example and a PS:
% BEGIN SNIPPET %
\version 2.7.7
#(define (compound-time grob one two divone divtwo)
(define hmoveDivOne
(if (equal? divone 16)
0.6
0.0))
(define hmoveDivTwo
(if (equal? divtwo 16)
0.6
0.0))
(define hmoveLastCol
(if (equal? divtwo 16)
-0.6
-0.3))
(interpret-markup
(ly:grob-layout grob)
'(((baseline-skip . 2)
(word-space . 1.5)
(font-family . number)))
(markup
#:line ( #:column ((#:translate (cons hmoveDivOne 0) one) divone)
#:lower 1 (#:translate (cons hmoveDivOne 0) +)
(#:translate (cons hmoveLastCol 0) #:column ((#:translate (cons
hmoveDivTwo 0) two) divtwo))
#(define (compound-time-equal-div grob one two divone)
(define hmoveDiv
(if (equal? divone 16)
-0.8
-0.1))
(interpret-markup
(ly:grob-layout grob)
'(((baseline-skip . 2)
(word-space . 1.4)
(font-family . number)))
(markup
( #:line (one (#:column ( + (#:translate (cons hmoveDiv 0.) divone)))
(#:translate (cons -0.2 0) two))
\score {
\new Staff
{
\time 13/16
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'print-function
= #(lambda (grob) (compound-time grob 3 5 16 8))
s16*13 |
\time 13/16
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'print-function
= #(lambda (grob) (compound-time grob 5 8 8 16))
s16*13 |
\time 13/16
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'print-function
= #(lambda (grob) (compound-time grob 5 8 16 16))
s16*13 |
\time 13/16
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'print-function
= #(lambda (grob) (compound-time-equal-div grob 5 8 16))
s16*13 |
\time 13/8
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'print-function
= #(lambda (grob) (compound-time-equal-div grob 5 8 8))
s8*13 |
}
}
%% END SNIPPET %
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Re: Compound time signatures
Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cool! I would like this to be added to the tips tricks. Just a minor stylistic comment, for (define hmoveDivOne (define hmoveDivTwo (define hmoveLastCol we usually use let* , ie (let* ((var1 val1) (var2 val2) ) ..body.. ) Sure. I'm glad if it can be of any use. /henrik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: epsfile include question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Henrik Frisk wrote:
1. Is it not possible to move the eps
graphic? I have tried \raise without success.
. . . I have tried a number of commands
apart from \raise . . .
\markup { \translate #(cons 2 5) \epsfile #eps/nss.eps }
In the LilyPond 2.6.0 manual, section 8.1.7 says that \raise, \lower,
and \translate cannot be used to displace entire scripts. But then in
section 11.2.3 (around the middle of that section), there is an
explanation of a trick to get around that limitation: writing
\markup { \translate #'(2.0 . 5.0) foo bar }
would place the empty string () where Lily wants it, but then the
string foo bar would be placed 2 units to the right of, and 5 units
above, that empty string, so that in effect foo bar would wind up
being placed where you wanted it. On that basis, it would be worth
trying
\markup { \translate #'(2.0 . 5.0) \epsfile #eps/nss.eps }
to see if that gives you the displacement you want.
-- Tom
Well, after some fiddling around with this, this is how it works in the score I
am currently working on with LilyPond 2.7.7 on OSX.
\markup { \translate #'(2.0 . 5.0) foo bar } = no effect
\markup {\translate #'(2.0 . 5.0) foo bar } = displaced as intended
In both cases the single white space string can be replaced by \hspace #0.0 .
Same goes for \raise
This is what Mats pointed out in his reply, and I think that the example in
11.2.3, that I used as reference, this should be changed. I assume the same is
true if you define it as a scheme macro in which case this example from 11.2.3
will not work as intended (haven't tried it...):
#(def-markup-command (character layout props name) (string?)
Print the character name in small caps, translated to the left and
top. Syntax: \\character #\name\
(interpret-markup layout props
(markup #:translate (cons -3 1) #:smallcaps name)))
Thank you all for the help.
/henrik
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Re: epsfile include question
Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Henrik Frisk wrote:
Two questions about the \epsfile statement that I can't find in the
documentation:
1. Is it not possible to move the eps graphic? I have tried \raise
without success.
You can't move scripts wholesale with \raise. See
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Text-markup.html
Graham,
A few lines fell out of my first post. I have tried a number of commands apart
from \raise which obviously doesn't work. As far as I understand, \translate
would be one possible way to move the graphic and I can move it sideways but
not up or down. IOW the following moves it to the right but not up:
\markup { \translate #(cons 2 5) \epsfile #eps/nss.eps }
Where did this information go in the 2.6/2.7 manual?
2. Is it possible to scale the size of the graphic? (It strikes me now that
it may be scaled with the global-staff-size - haven't checked that...)
Thanks for any input.
No, but I can add it as a sponsored feature, if you like.
Yeah, well, how much?
/henrik frisk
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Re: epsfile include question
Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Henrik Frisk wrote:
Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Henrik Frisk wrote:
Two questions about the \epsfile statement that I can't find in the
documentation:
1. Is it not possible to move the eps graphic? I have tried \raise
without success.
You can't move scripts wholesale with \raise. See
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Text-markup.html
Graham,
A few lines fell out of my first post. I have tried a number of
commands apart from \raise which obviously doesn't work. As far as I
understand, \translate would be one possible way to move the graphic
and I can move it sideways but not up or down. IOW the following
moves it to the right but not up:
\markup { \translate #(cons 2 5) \epsfile #eps/nss.eps }
The example from the 2.4 manual doesn't work out of the box in 2.6.
You have to replace the with or \hspace #1.0 to give \raise
some object to raise relative to. Of course, a better alternative is
probably to increase the padding:
\once \override TextScript #'padding = #3.0
c^\markup{...}
/Mats
Well, here we go! That's something that works.
Thank you!
/henrik
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epsfile include question
Two questions about the \epsfile statement that I can't find in the documentation: 1. Is it not possible to move the eps graphic? I have tried \raise without success. 2. Is it possible to scale the size of the graphic? (It strikes me now that it may be scaled with the global-staff-size - haven't checked that...) Thanks for any input. /henrik frisk ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Problem with update syntax in Mac OS X --- converts to 2.7.7 instead of 2.7.6
I noticed the same thing. Just change the \version statement and you are good to go. Henrik Frisk Looks like a silly packaging error. Just edit the converted .ly file and replace 2.7.7 with 2.7.6 in the \version statement. /Mats David Fedoruk wrote: Hello all: I downloaded the latest development version of lilypond for Mac OS X (2.7.6-1 (vBuild from 19-08-2005 22:05). When I run Update Syntax from the GUI in O S X, it converts to the wrong version. To test this I took the Welcome document which opens the application and contains a short test script renamed it test2.7.6 and ran Update syntax... this is its output: -- SNIP - convert-ly (GNU LilyPond) 2.7.6 Processing `/Users/nicholas/Documents/Lilypond/test2.7.6.ly'... Applying conversion: 2.7.0, 2.7.1, 2.7.2, 2.7.4, 2.7.6, 2.7.7 --- end SNIP -- Notice that it coverts to 2.7.7, one version higher that it really is. As soon as you run the compile for the script it dies because of the wrong version. It is really 2.7.6. david ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Output other than PDF
If you have the OSX version installed, you can create a symlink to lilypond.sh in /usr/local/bin and use it just as the commandline tool would work on Linux or with the Fink version of LilyPond. Do ln -s /usr/local/bin/lilypond.sh /usr/local/bin/lilypond and open a new terminal window. /Henrik Frisk Rutgers, I see what you're trying to do. (and silly me for not seeing this before to!) You are trying to type the contents of lilypond.sh into the command line. You have failed because its meant to be run as a single command. $INSTALL in that script is a variable which is set to /Applications which is where Lilypond is. The rest of the script burrows into the application bundle and calls lilypond. I tested it like this: First I typed just lilpond.sh -- terminal snip --- LilyPond produces beautiful music notation. For more information, see http://lilypond.org Options: -b, --backend=BACK use backend BACK (gnome, ps [default], scm, svg, tex, texstr) -d, --define-default=SYM=VAL set a Scheme program option. Uses #t if VAL is not specified Try -dhelp for help. -e, --evaluate=EXPR evaluate scheme code -f, --formats=FORMATsdump FORMAT,... Also as separate options: --dvigenerate DVI (tex backend only) --pdfgenerate PDF (default) --pnggenerate PNG --ps generate PostScript --texgenerate TeX (tex backend only) -h, --help print this help -H, --header=FIELD dump a header field to file BASENAME.FIELD -I, --include=DIRadd DIR to search path -i, --init=FILE use FILE as init file -o, --output=FILEwrite output to FILE (suffix will be added) -j, --jail=USER,GROUP,JAIL,DIR chroot to JAIL, become USER:GROUP and cd into DIR --no-print do not generate printed output -p, --previewgenerate a preview of the first system -s, --safe-mode run in safe mode -v, --versionprint version number -V, --verbosebe verbose -w, --warranty show warranty and copyright Report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- end teminal snip -- That told me the right flag to use to get lilypond to produce png files instead of pdf. I tested it on a Bach Invention i had just finished typsetting: lilypond.sh -f png invention.ly After rendering I was left with this list of files: invention-page1.png invention-page2.png invention-page3.png invention.ly invention.midi invention.ps If you type this: lilypond.sh -f png yourDocument.ly the output will be similar. There is yoru PNG and its way easier than I thouught The out put will be (assuming there are no errors) your typset music as post script file, a midi file and you will find PNG files for each page of music manuscript you produced. I hope this makes things WAY easier! Let me know if there are any other questions. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Extending beamed stems
OK, that makes sense. Beginner question: Is this terminology
consistent for all properties, that is, *-extent referring to
spacing and *-offset to 'real' size?
/henrik
Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Henrik Frisk wrote:
Your suggested solution seems to be the way to do it. I tried it quickly,
but the NoteColumn #'force-hshift didn't do anything. Now, that may be
because I am not using the 2.5 yet and i didn't start looking in the manual
for a way to achieve this in 2.4. I will upgrade and try again and in any
event, you have pointed me in the right direction, and I am sure i will be
able to find out. I am still curious to find out why the Voice.Beam
#'X-extent and Voice.Beam #'extra-offset doesn't have any effect. This was
what I tried at first. Anybody knows why me and Daniel are unsuccessful in
getting the desired effect?
As far as I know, the Voice.Beam #'X-extent property is only used
when LilyPond tries to determine the (horizontal) spacing between
different objects. In other words, the property does not
change the size of the object, it just tells the collision and
spacing handling how large the object should be considered. Same
goes for extra-X-extent. The extra-offset property, on the other
should definitely work (and does so according to the email below).
/Mats
Daniel Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmm. This is a real puzzler, because even though the Beam object
implements the grob-interface, only certain grob properties have any
effect. Specifically, I tried the following on a small test file and
they did nothing:
\once \override Voice.Beam #'X-extent = #'(0 . 15)
\once \override Voice.Beam #'extra-X-extent = #'(0 . 15)
Oddly enough, the following DID have an effect:
\once \override Voice.Beam #'extra-offset = #'(0 . 15)
but of course I can't really imagine any use for this.
Here's an idea:
1. Just beam from the first three notes over to the high G-flat.
2. On the D in the left hand, do a \once \override Voice.Stem
#'flag-style = #'no-flag, and do a \stemUp.
3. On the D in the left hand, do a \once \override NoteColumn
#'force-hshift = #-1. Adjust this value until the stem is aligned
perfectly with the stem of the note in the right hand.
4. On the D in the left hand, do a \once \override Voice.Stem #'length =
#12 or however long it needs to be to meet up with the beam.
I did my research out of the 2.5 manual, so your mileage may vary; but I
don't think there's anything especially late-breaking about any of the
features I used above. The noteheads of the eighth-notes in the left
right hands won't be horizontally aligned, but their stems will meet the
beam in the same place. Is that acceptable?
--Daniel
Henrik Frisk wrote:
I'm running lilypond 2.4.5 (fink installation) on OSX 10.3.9. Attached to
this mail is an example. Although this bar works OK the way it is, I would
have liked to beam it 1/4+1/8 rather than 1/8+1/8+1/8. Either by
connecting the lower beam of the first 1/8 note group to the stem of the
second eighth note (from a notation point of view this would be unorthodox
since one of the note heads would end up on the wrong side of the stem).
The other way would be to have the beam go below all notes on beat one and
two (counting eihgth notes).
Here's the code for the bar:
\time 3/8
ges'''16~[ \revert Beam #'positions ges64 \change Staff=lower f,32. ]
\change Staff=upper \stemExtend \noFlag ges'8- \noBeam
\acciaccatura { g32^\pedalc } \change Staff = lower b,,,32 [ \change
Staff = upper f''~ f16~ ] |
And here are the \noFlag and \stemExtend:
noFlag = \once \override Stem #'flag-style = #'no-flag
stemExtend = \once \override Stem #'length = #32
...and attached is an image.
This is the first piece I do in LilyPond, so I'm not very experienced yet.
Tahnks for any help.
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Re: Extending beamed stems
Your suggested solution seems to be the way to do it. I tried it quickly, but
the NoteColumn #'force-hshift didn't do anything. Now, that may be because I am
not using the 2.5 yet and i didn't start looking in the manual for a way to
achieve this in 2.4. I will upgrade and try again and in any event, you have
pointed me in the right direction, and I am sure i will be able to find out. I
am still curious to find out why the Voice.Beam #'X-extent and Voice.Beam
#'extra-offset doesn't have any effect. This was what I tried at first. Anybody
knows why me and Daniel are unsuccessful in getting the desired effect?
Daniel Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmm. This is a real puzzler, because even though the Beam object
implements the grob-interface, only certain grob properties have any
effect. Specifically, I tried the following on a small test file and
they did nothing:
\once \override Voice.Beam #'X-extent = #'(0 . 15)
\once \override Voice.Beam #'extra-X-extent = #'(0 . 15)
Oddly enough, the following DID have an effect:
\once \override Voice.Beam #'extra-offset = #'(0 . 15)
but of course I can't really imagine any use for this.
Here's an idea:
1. Just beam from the first three notes over to the high G-flat.
2. On the D in the left hand, do a \once \override Voice.Stem
#'flag-style = #'no-flag, and do a \stemUp.
3. On the D in the left hand, do a \once \override NoteColumn
#'force-hshift = #-1. Adjust this value until the stem is aligned
perfectly with the stem of the note in the right hand.
4. On the D in the left hand, do a \once \override Voice.Stem #'length =
#12 or however long it needs to be to meet up with the beam.
I did my research out of the 2.5 manual, so your mileage may vary; but I
don't think there's anything especially late-breaking about any of the
features I used above. The noteheads of the eighth-notes in the left
right hands won't be horizontally aligned, but their stems will meet the
beam in the same place. Is that acceptable?
--Daniel
Henrik Frisk wrote:
I'm running lilypond 2.4.5 (fink installation) on OSX 10.3.9. Attached to
this mail is an example. Although this bar works OK the way it is, I would
have liked to beam it 1/4+1/8 rather than 1/8+1/8+1/8. Either by connecting
the lower beam of the first 1/8 note group to the stem of the second eighth
note (from a notation point of view this would be unorthodox since one of
the note heads would end up on the wrong side of the stem). The other way
would be to have the beam go below all notes on beat one and two (counting
eihgth notes).
Here's the code for the bar:
\time 3/8
ges'''16~[ \revert Beam #'positions ges64 \change Staff=lower f,32. ]
\change Staff=upper \stemExtend \noFlag ges'8- \noBeam
\acciaccatura { g32^\pedalc } \change Staff = lower b,,,32 [ \change Staff
= upper f''~ f16~ ] |
And here are the \noFlag and \stemExtend:
noFlag = \once \override Stem #'flag-style = #'no-flag
stemExtend = \once \override Stem #'length = #32
...and attached is an image.
This is the first piece I do in LilyPond, so I'm not very experienced yet.
Tahnks for any help.
/henrik
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Re: Extending beamed stems
Daniel Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
henrikfr wrote:
I posted a question a while ago but didn't get any feedback, probably
because nobody understood my question ;)... I'll give it another try:
I want to extend a beamed stem so that it reaches beyond the beam, without
changeing the position or angle of the beam. I want to do it for cross staff
notes. I've figured out how to do it for unbeamed notes but can't seem to
get it to work for beamed notes.
Thanx for any suggestions.
Do you have any scanned examples of what it is you're trying to do?
Also, what version of Lilypond are you running, and on what platform?
I'm running lilypond 2.4.5 (fink installation) on OSX 10.3.9. Attached to this
mail is an example. Although this bar works OK the way it is, I would have
liked to beam it 1/4+1/8 rather than 1/8+1/8+1/8. Either by connecting the
lower beam of the first 1/8 note group to the stem of the second eighth note
(from a notation point of view this would be unorthodox since one of the note
heads would end up on the wrong side of the stem). The other way would be to
have the beam go below all notes on beat one and two (counting eihgth notes).
Here's the code for the bar:
\time 3/8
ges'''16~[ \revert Beam #'positions ges64 \change Staff=lower f,32. ] \change
Staff=upper \stemExtend \noFlag ges'8- \noBeam
\acciaccatura { g32^\pedalc } \change Staff = lower b,,,32 [ \change Staff =
upper f''~ f16~ ] |
And here are the \noFlag and \stemExtend:
noFlag = \once \override Stem #'flag-style = #'no-flag
stemExtend = \once \override Stem #'length = #32
...and attached is an image.
This is the first piece I do in LilyPond, so I'm not very experienced yet.
Tahnks for any help.
/henrik
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Extend stems beyond beam?
Having just started using lilypond I came across a problem I can't solve. I am writing for harp and I have a lot of cross staff notes. At a few places I wish to notate a chord with one note in the lower staff and one note in the upper staff. I have figured out how to do this as long as the chord is not beamed with a previous or following note. Simply put, what i want to work out is how to extend a single stem in a beamed group of notes beyond the beam in order to connect it to a note in the other staff. This may sound like a silly thing to do and I don't necessarily need to do it. But I still want to figure out if, and then how this can be done. Greatful for any suggestions, Henrik Frisk ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
