Re: High-level users?
MuseScore seems to work for simple scores. For the sort of things I do it doesn't work yet anyway. But I belive would be good to have a free and robust alternative to finale and on top of that integrated with lilypond. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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2011/9/25 Hilary Snaden : > On 2011-09-25 11:13, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> >> 2011/9/24 Graham Percival: >>> >>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 03:24:18PM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: For what it's worth, i really *really* think that LilyPond and MuseScore should be integrated. >>> >>> What does that mean? >>> >>> - better lilypond export for musescore: go ahead and send patches >>> there. >>> - lilypond import for musescore: go ahead and send patches there. >> >> No, i mean *a lot* more. Therefore it's too big for me to handle >> alone - that's why i'm aksing who's interested in it. There'd be no >> point in writing my thoughts on this topic down and sending them to >> the list if noone would be interested. > > The last time I tried Musescore (with part of a project I was working rather > slowly on with LilyPond) it was far too unstable to be usable. When was it? > Since then > I've learned more about LilyPond and become faster at coding, and haven't > felt a need to try MuseScore again. Maybe MuseScore has improved since then, > and maybe MuseScore and LilyPond can be made to talk to one another better, > but I'd really really hate to see LilyPond become in any way dependent on > point-and-click systems. Of course i don't mean this. It should always be possible to use Lily from a text interface. cheers, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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On 2011-09-25 11:13, Janek Warchoł wrote: 2011/9/24 Graham Percival: On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 03:24:18PM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: For what it's worth, i really *really* think that LilyPond and MuseScore should be integrated. What does that mean? - better lilypond export for musescore: go ahead and send patches there. - lilypond import for musescore: go ahead and send patches there. No, i mean *a lot* more. Therefore it's too big for me to handle alone - that's why i'm aksing who's interested in it. There'd be no point in writing my thoughts on this topic down and sending them to the list if noone would be interested. The last time I tried Musescore (with part of a project I was working rather slowly on with LilyPond) it was far too unstable to be usable. Since then I've learned more about LilyPond and become faster at coding, and haven't felt a need to try MuseScore again. Maybe MuseScore has improved since then, and maybe MuseScore and LilyPond can be made to talk to one another better, but I'd really really hate to see LilyPond become in any way dependent on point-and-click systems. In fact, I think they should remain as separate as, say, LilyPond and Emacs. -- Hilary ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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2011/9/24 Graham Percival : > On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 03:24:18PM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> For what it's worth, i really *really* think that LilyPond and >> MuseScore should be integrated. > > What does that mean? > > - better lilypond export for musescore: go ahead and send patches > there. > - lilypond import for musescore: go ahead and send patches there. No, i mean *a lot* more. Therefore it's too big for me to handle alone - that's why i'm aksing who's interested in it. There'd be no point in writing my thoughts on this topic down and sending them to the list if noone would be interested. cheers, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 03:24:18PM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: > For what it's worth, i really *really* think that LilyPond and > MuseScore should be integrated. What does that mean? - better lilypond export for musescore: go ahead and send patches there. - lilypond import for musescore: go ahead and send patches there. The only thing that I could possibly think of this "integration" from our side would be to link to their website more prominently. I'm not going to get excited about that possibility -- at least, not unless they have much better exporting capabilities than I suspect. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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Dear David, I'd worked for Years with Finale and Sibelius. Since about 3 years I'm working with lilypond. I choosed it, because I do write my music first by hand and than I do the fair copy with the computer. In my opinion Lilypond is the most efficient way to do this work, altough I have to admit, that I sometimes miss the so called "look and feel" that I have been used to, when I used Sibelius. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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2011/9/24 Janek Warchoł : > i can elaborate. Please, do it. One of the things that could integrate it a bit more would be a javascript plug-in for entering music with lilypond syntax in a pop up widget. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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2011/9/24 Janek Warchoł : > For what it's worth, i really *really* think that LilyPond and > MuseScore should be integrated. LilyPond does better job than > MuseScore when we compare default engraving, but GUI is invaluable in > some areas, and some users won't even try to use a tool without GUI > (and while we can pity them, it'd be better to do something about it). > I have some thoughts on how this integration should look like - if > there are people interested in integrating Lily and MuseScore, i can > elaborate. That sounds good for me too. I know there are other projects (schikkers and denemo), but the thing is: MuseScore just got there first, it already works and those 2 million downloads reflects that. I know they use very different tools, MuseScore is coded in Qt/C++ (which is good because it is very fast and cross platform) but I guess can be a problem for Lily devs to work in MuseScore and vice-versa. It is so similar to Sibelius/Finale paradigm that it could convert most of Sibelius/Finale users very rapidly just because of the possibility of the integrated use LilyPond. Some of those MuseScore users eventually would prefer to enter the music directly in LilyPond format after a few months, others would choose to enter the notes with the method they already learned from Sibelius and just polish it later with LilyPond. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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2011/9/24 m...@apollinemike.com : > On Sep 23, 2011, at 9:38 PM, Seth Williamson wrote: >> Somebody said there have been 2 million downloads of MuseScore. Does >> anybody know if MuseScore is gaining many former LilyPond adherents? I know >> for a fact that my girlfriend definitely prefers it. > > I would not be surprised if MuseScore's usage has already eclipsed that of > LilyPond and if some LilyPond users move over to MuseScore. For what it's worth, i really *really* think that LilyPond and MuseScore should be integrated. LilyPond does better job than MuseScore when we compare default engraving, but GUI is invaluable in some areas, and some users won't even try to use a tool without GUI (and while we can pity them, it'd be better to do something about it). I have some thoughts on how this integration should look like - if there are people interested in integrating Lily and MuseScore, i can elaborate. cheers, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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On Sep 23, 2011, at 9:38 PM, Seth Williamson wrote: > This has all been very interesting. But almost nobody addressed my main > question. Namely, are there any, or many, pros out there who have chosen > LilyPond over Sibelius or Finale? I did appreciate hearing from Kieran > MacMillan. > I have been in the music biz for 10ish years and I have only seen this choice being made recently with a handful of editors on the French lilypond mailing list. If you consider the clergy music professionals (I do insofar as the music they're typesetting is linked to their vocation), you can add a few more from this list. For the majority of my professional musicking years, I didn't even know LilyPond existed. So, I would guess that the majority of people have not made this choice because they do not know if LilyPond exists, and if they did know, they wouldn't make the switch because of the cost in time of learning a new program and changing all of one's documents over to a new format. > Somebody said there have been 2 million downloads of MuseScore. Does anybody > know if MuseScore is gaining many former LilyPond adherents? I know for a > fact that my girlfriend definitely prefers it. > I would not be surprised if MuseScore's usage has already eclipsed that of LilyPond and if some LilyPond users move over to MuseScore. I am almost positive that Finale and Sibelius combined dwarf the usage of SCORE. They do different things. I see LilyPond evolving towards something like SCORE with easier input syntax and more features, and I think MuseScore will eventually be able to perform at the same level as Finale and Sibelius. The scenario you described before of a group of arrangers around computers making changes on the fly under time pressure could never work with LilyPond in its current state - it needs to recompile a score every time to get the horizontal spacing right. Furthermore, the people working in these groups likely feel much more comfortable with a WYSIWYG interface - it is certainly better for error checking, which likely counts much more than correct spacing and collisions of fermatas with slurs in time crunches. Cheers, MS___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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This has all been very interesting. But almost nobody addressed my main question. Namely, are there any, or many, pros out there who have chosen LilyPond over Sibelius or Finale? I did appreciate hearing from Kieran MacMillan. Somebody said there have been 2 million downloads of MuseScore. Does anybody know if MuseScore is gaining many former LilyPond adherents? I know for a fact that my girlfriend definitely prefers it. Seth Williamson 2011/9/23 Janek Warchoł > 2011/9/23 Tim Reeves : > >>3. Re:High-level users? (m...@apollinemike.com) > > > >> Just got back home from transcribing chipmunk noises for my most recent > >> choral work. > >> I'll just say that being called nuts is the single greatest compliment I > > > >> could possibly receive. > > .> > >> Cheers, > >> MS > > > > Very funny. Love it. > > I'd really like to hear (and even see) a performance of some of your > > works. > > They've got to be challenging. > > There are recordings of every piece on Mike's webstie: > http://apollinemike.com/mike/index.html -> This is my music -> piece > > cheers, > Janek > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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2011/9/23 Tim Reeves : >>3. Re:High-level users? (m...@apollinemike.com) > >> Just got back home from transcribing chipmunk noises for my most recent >> choral work. >> I'll just say that being called nuts is the single greatest compliment I > >> could possibly receive. > .> >> Cheers, >> MS > > Very funny. Love it. > I'd really like to hear (and even see) a performance of some of your > works. > They've got to be challenging. There are recordings of every piece on Mike's webstie: http://apollinemike.com/mike/index.html -> This is my music -> piece cheers, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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Urs Liska wrote: > Am 23.09.2011 01:53, schrieb Tim Roberts: >> >> From a publishing perspective, that's impressive on a nearly magical >> scale. As a musician, please forgive my parochial and archaic attitude, >> but that's nuts. > Did you take the time to explore the pieces? > I don't think one is able to make such a judgement prima vista. I did -- I actually read every page. As a clarinetist, I even attempted to visualize some of the techniques, although I didn't break out my instrument. > I don't think the Japanese are nuts, only because I can't read their > language. I'm not sure that's a fair analogy. I can certainly "read the language". I think we can all admit -- without malice -- that piece is a bit far from the musical mainstream. However, I can certainly imagine a college group spending a good semester working up a performance. The nuances here would make for endlessly entertaining debates. Perhaps it was a mistake to toss off a clever colloquialism as a newcomer, before I've had a chance to establish a persona. I did express my admiration for the technique. > And even if I'd think it, I wouldn't make such a bold statement in a > psychologically fragile place like a mailing list. Psychologically fragile people do not usually survive for very long in a mailing list. The lack of visual cues makes it too easy to take comments personally, even when not meant as such. You either learn not to do so, or you get mad and leave. -- Tim Roberts, t...@probo.com Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Phil Holmes wrote: > > (It means my music production route is Capella download -> Musescore -> > MusicXML -> mxml2nwcc -> Noteworthy -> nwctxt -> nwctxt2ly -> lilypond -> > pdf) > But you know you can export from musescore to lilypond directly, don't you? Any reason for the extra steps? Why didi you use Noteworthy? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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- Original Message - From: "Bernardo Barros" To: "Brent Annable" Cc: Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 5:08 PM Subject: Re: High-level users? On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 4:15 AM, Brent Annable wrote: I'd like to add that I think that Lilypond's main strength is as a typesetting/publishing programme. For composing and arranging, I find it's better to have a page of blank manuscript in front of you that you can 'fill in', something that Lilypond's text-input paradigm doesn't really allow for. But once all the information is there, making changes is relatively easy, and the printed results are, of course, sublime. With the development of MuseScore (that is a similar program to Sibelius with less features at this time) having the lilypond (redable) file export feature, this could encompass both situations of having a blank score and the best typestting. Perhaps lilypons and musecore could develop even closer and closer from now on, that would just make Sibelius pointless. BTW, musecore got 2 million downloads already I was one, a couple of days ago. I've been using it to convert Capella files to MusicXML. I find the user interface a bit weird, but it looks nice and professional. (It means my music production route is Capella download -> Musescore -> MusicXML -> mxml2nwcc -> Noteworthy -> nwctxt -> nwctxt2ly -> lilypond -> pdf) -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 4:15 AM, Brent Annable wrote: > I'd like to add that I think that Lilypond's main strength is as a > typesetting/publishing programme. For composing and arranging, I find it's > better to have a page of blank manuscript in front of you that you can 'fill > in', something that Lilypond's text-input paradigm doesn't really allow for. > But once all the information is there, making changes is relatively easy, > and the printed results are, of course, sublime. With the development of MuseScore (that is a similar program to Sibelius with less features at this time) having the lilypond (redable) file export feature, this could encompass both situations of having a blank score and the best typestting. Perhaps lilypons and musecore could develop even closer and closer from now on, that would just make Sibelius pointless. BTW, musecore got 2 million downloads already ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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On Sep 23, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Peekay Ex wrote: > Mike > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Urs Liska wrote: >> Am 23.09.2011 01:53, schrieb Tim Roberts: >>> >>> Janek Warchoł wrote: If your friend would like to see what Lily can do, i'd show him this: http://www.apollinemike.com/scores/granini.pdf >>> >>> From a publishing perspective, that's impressive on a nearly magical >>> scale. As a musician, please forgive my parochial and archaic attitude, >>> but that's nuts. > > I'm curious, knowing what you know now about LP how long did/would > this take you to create assuming that you had already done the > composition itself on pad and paper (i.e. transcribe)? > > and how long it took to compile. > > -- > -- > James > Just got back home from transcribing chipmunk noises for my most recent choral work. I'll just say that being called nuts is the single greatest compliment I could possibly receive. A few things regarding this thread: -) I'd be happy to send anyone the source material for any of my pieces - just let me know what you'd like to see in a private mail. I can't promise that it's tidy or that it compiles on current versions of LilyPond, but most of the tweaks/overrides should be salvageable. -) I see what you're saying about pen/paper composition, but I actually work faster typing in music from a command line than on paper. I also feel I can do certain things that I can't on paper, such as legible stream-of-counsciousness thoughts-to-self and various algorithmic experiments. I do use pen and paper, though, to make flow charts. I also use GarageBand to sing mock ups of most of my pieces and then transcribe these mockups into LilyPond. For my sketches, I gravitate towards the tool that will (a) allow me to express an idea as fast as possible; and (b) allow me to play with this idea as much as possible (which, of course, includes getting rid of it). -) The piece in question (granini di luce...) took me one week of LilyPond work, but I was working from an audio mockup of me singing all of the parts and there were several gaps where I knew I had to add stuff in LilyPond w/o sketches. This actually speeds me up, as I can improvise on the spot in the Terminal instead of switching between paper/computer. For a better barometer of transcription, check out http://www.apollinemike.com/auxeppes. This took me seven weeks to transcribe pulling 12 hour days. Valentin Villenave was working on some very interesting stuff regarding "thinking" in lily code, and I'm sure that the other composers on this list (Kieren, Trevor Bača, etc) work in a similar manner. Cheers, MS ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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2011/9/23 Brent Annable : > I'd like to add that I think that Lilypond's main strength is as a > typesetting/publishing programme. For composing and arranging, I find it's > better to have a page of blank manuscript in front of you that you can 'fill > in', something that Lilypond's text-input paradigm doesn't really allow for. On the contrary, some of our developers who are composers (for example David, if i remembered correctly) praise the abstract setting of ly input files. In other words, some people prefer not to see the graphical output too early. cheers, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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Mike On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Urs Liska wrote: > Am 23.09.2011 01:53, schrieb Tim Roberts: >> >> Janek Warchoł wrote: >>> >>> If your friend would like to see what Lily can do, i'd show him this: >>> http://www.apollinemike.com/scores/granini.pdf >> >> From a publishing perspective, that's impressive on a nearly magical >> scale. As a musician, please forgive my parochial and archaic attitude, >> but that's nuts. I'm curious, knowing what you know now about LP how long did/would this take you to create assuming that you had already done the composition itself on pad and paper (i.e. transcribe)? and how long it took to compile. -- -- James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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Pretty amazing stuff, both musically and visually! Mike, any chance of seeing the original ly files? On 9/23/11 10:22 PM, Urs Liska wrote: Am 23.09.2011 01:53, schrieb Tim Roberts: Janek Warchoł wrote: If your friend would like to see what Lily can do, i'd show him this: http://www.apollinemike.com/scores/granini.pdf From a publishing perspective, that's impressive on a nearly magical scale. As a musician, please forgive my parochial and archaic attitude, but that's nuts. Did you take the time to explore the pieces? I don't think one is able to make such a judgement prima vista. I don't think the Japanese are nuts, only because I can't read their language. And even if I'd think it, I wouldn't make such a bold statement in a psychologically fragile place like a mailing list. Best Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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Am 23.09.2011 01:53, schrieb Tim Roberts: Janek Warchoł wrote: If your friend would like to see what Lily can do, i'd show him this: http://www.apollinemike.com/scores/granini.pdf From a publishing perspective, that's impressive on a nearly magical scale. As a musician, please forgive my parochial and archaic attitude, but that's nuts. Did you take the time to explore the pieces? I don't think one is able to make such a judgement prima vista. I don't think the Japanese are nuts, only because I can't read their language. And even if I'd think it, I wouldn't make such a bold statement in a psychologically fragile place like a mailing list. Best Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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I'd like to add that I think that Lilypond's main strength is as a typesetting/publishing programme. For composing and arranging, I find it's better to have a page of blank manuscript in front of you that you can 'fill in', something that Lilypond's text-input paradigm doesn't really allow for. But once all the information is there, making changes is relatively easy, and the printed results are, of course, sublime. Brent. On 23 September 2011 01:53, Tim Roberts wrote: > Janek Warchoł wrote: > > If your friend would like to see what Lily can do, i'd show him this: > > http://www.apollinemike.com/scores/granini.pdf > > From a publishing perspective, that's impressive on a nearly magical > scale. As a musician, please forgive my parochial and archaic attitude, > but that's nuts. > > -- > Tim Roberts, t...@probo.com > Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc. > > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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Janek Warchoł wrote: > If your friend would like to see what Lily can do, i'd show him this: > http://www.apollinemike.com/scores/granini.pdf From a publishing perspective, that's impressive on a nearly magical scale. As a musician, please forgive my parochial and archaic attitude, but that's nuts. -- Tim Roberts, t...@probo.com Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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Am 23.09.2011 00:54, schrieb Janek Warchoł: 2011/9/22 Seth Williamson: I use LilyPond at a relatively low level. Mostly just to re-write single parts, change clefs, transpose, etc. A friend of mine, however, is a much-published composer who has written for film, TV, high school and college bands, jazz charts, etc. We got to talking about various notation software because he mentioned he was having a problem with Sibelius. I regaled him with the horrific problems I personally had with a completely legal copy of Sibelius when I got a new computer -- the code refused to believe it was legal thereafter. I have been recommending he give LilyPond a try. But I've never used LilyPond at the high level he works in. My question is this: are there many working professional composers and arrangers who rely on LilyPond as their first choice for notation software? I know there are a lot of amateurs like me -- but I'm wondering if there are pros out there who use LilyPond daily at a high level for multi-part scores, etc. If your friend would like to see what Lily can do, i'd show him this: http://www.apollinemike.com/scores/granini.pdf http://www.apollinemike.com/scores/zauberbuch.pdf *very* nice indeed. (I think I will also keep these links as 'reference objects'). But your friend should take two things into account: * LilyPond is especially strong and robust when it comes to multi-part scores etc. So this isn't really the issue. * But it is quite complex to do the change and get 'into' it. If you take these scores by Mike, you can be sure that there is a lot of learning before being able to realize such scores. If one feels good about LilyPond's text input paradigm then it is definitely worth trying out. But keep in mind that there might be substantial amounts of time before you can use it efficiently on the high level you are talking about. i was impressed when i saw these scores. cheers, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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2011/9/22 Seth Williamson : > I use LilyPond at a relatively low level. Mostly just to re-write single > parts, change clefs, transpose, etc. > A friend of mine, however, is a much-published composer who has written for > film, TV, high school and college bands, jazz charts, etc. We got to > talking about various notation software because he mentioned he was having a > problem with Sibelius. I regaled him with the horrific problems I > personally had with a completely legal copy of Sibelius when I got a new > computer -- the code refused to believe it was legal thereafter. > I have been recommending he give LilyPond a try. But I've never used > LilyPond at the high level he works in. > My question is this: are there many working professional composers and > arrangers who rely on LilyPond as their first choice for notation software? > I know there are a lot of amateurs like me -- but I'm wondering if there > are pros out there who use LilyPond daily at a high level for multi-part > scores, etc. If your friend would like to see what Lily can do, i'd show him this: http://www.apollinemike.com/scores/granini.pdf http://www.apollinemike.com/scores/zauberbuch.pdf i was impressed when i saw these scores. cheers, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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Hi Seth, > My buddy was telling me how, when Jerry Goldsmith was recording with Sony, > there'd be a table of four music majors from USC at work stations with Finale > and/or Sibelius, ready to produce changes on the fly in parts and conductor > scores, etc. Are there any Big Guns like this who rely on LilyPond? There are very few Big Guns like Jerry — period. Now that that's cleared up… :) I cannot name the "big[gest] guns" who rely on Lilypond. However, I *can* say that I myself rely on Lilypond for every single music job I do which requires engraving: composer, arranger, music director, and teacher. This includes cranking out parts and scores "on the fly" for chamber operas, generating tests for my theory students on the subway, etc. If you have any specific questions I can help you with, feel free to contact me (on- or off-line). Hope this helps! Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
