Re: Lilypond Windows - missing text fonts

2021-06-08 Thread Knute Snortum
When I run this at the command line in Windows 10:

lilypond -dshow-available-fonts

...I get a slew of fonts.  What are you doing that shows that LilyPond
is not finding fonts?  Do you have a small example input file that
would display the problem?  I'm no Windows font expert so I don't know
how much I can help you, but that's a start.

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On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 1:38 AM Tapani Simojoki  wrote:
>
> Am i the only one with this problem?
>
> On Thursday, 29 April 2021, 11:01:04 BST, Tapani Simojoki 
>  wrote:
>
>
> Ever since I upgraded to 2.20, my Windows installation of Lilypond has failed 
> to detect most of the text fonts installed on my computer. The problem 
> remains with 2.22.
> Is this a known problem, and is there an easy fix?
>
> Thanks. Tapani



Re: Usage of Text-Fonts on MAC

2020-10-13 Thread Andrew Bernard
Check -d-show-available fonts. The name may be different to plain 
Calluna, I don't have a Mac.


Andrew

On 13/10/2020 10:47 pm, Johannes Roeßler wrote:


e.g. - I'd like to use Calluna - which is installed and I can use it 
in Office etc - even the autocomplete of frescobaldi detects it - but 
no change in the result, its not used there.







Usage of Text-Fonts on MAC

2020-10-13 Thread Johannes Roeßler

Hi Group,

I recently switched to MAC. Unfortnuately there seeem to be issues with 
the fonts?


e.g. - I'd like to use Calluna - which is installed and I can use it in 
Office etc - even the autocomplete of frescobaldi detects it - but no 
change in the result, its not used there.



8<-

\version "2.20.0"

\header {
  title = \markup { \override #'(font-name . "Calluna") \abs-fontsize 
#24 { "Should print in Calluna"}}

}

{r1}

>8

Cheers
Joei




Re: openLilyLib and text fonts

2020-06-07 Thread Martin Neubauer
There are two different issues here: Firstly, the oll package defaults
to "serif"/"sans-serif"/"monospace" which are the lilypond defaults
onlky for the svg backend. Stealing from scm/fonts.scm (in the lilypond
distribution) suggest the following changes that indeed seem to use the
proper fonts:

diff --git a/package.ily b/package.ily
index ca98c53..555f0b0 100644
--- a/package.ily
+++ b/package.ily
@@ -130,17 +130,20 @@ useNotationFont =
  ;; retrieve 'roman' name from options with "serif" default.
  (roman
   (or (assoc-ref options 'roman)
-  "serif"))
+  (if (eq? (ly:get-option 'backend) 'svg)
+ "serif" "LilyPond Serif")))
  (use-roman (string-downcase roman))
  ;; retrieve 'sans' name from options with "sans-serif" default.
  (sans
   (or (assoc-ref options 'sans)
-  "sans-serif"))
+  (if (eq? (ly:get-option 'backend) 'svg)
+"sans-serif" "LilyPond Sans
Serif")))
  (use-sans (string-downcase sans))
  ;; retrieve 'typewriter' name from options with "monospace"
default.
  (typewriter
   (or (assoc-ref options 'typewriter)
-  "monospace"))
+  (if (eq? (ly:get-option 'backend) 'svg)
+  "monospace" "LilyPond
Monospace")))
  (use-typewriter (string-downcase typewriter))
  ;; retrieve 'style' option with "default" default ...
  (style

I'll also prepare a pull request so this won't be an issue in the future.

Secondly, the typesetting of the lyrics apparently is influenced by the
spacing of the chosen notation font (and why wouldn't it...) However,
that gap around the lyric tie seems to be specific to profondo. Maybe
you can find some formatting tweaks to fix this or use another notation
font. (If I remember correctly, profondo is just an adaptation of – a
nowadays pretty outdated version of – bravura anyway, so that might be
worth a look if you're after that specific look.)

Regards,
Martin

On 07/06/2020 00:24, Tiago Pereira wrote:
> Hi!
> I'm using openLilyLib to change the notation font of my lilypond scores. The 
> problem is: when I change the notation font, the text font is automatically 
> changed to a font that I don't know what it is.
> Default:
> \version "2.20.0"
> 
> \header {
>     title = "Title"
>     composer = "Composer"
> }
> 
> << \relative c' { c2 c c c c1 ^\markup{ \roman roman } ^\markup{ \sans sans } 
> ^\markup{ \typewriter typewriter } }
> \addlyrics { This is~a ly -- ric } >>
> With new notation font:
> \version "2.20.0"
> 
> \include "oll-core/package.ily"
> \loadPackage notation-fonts
> \useNotationFont "profondo"
> 
> \header {
>     title = "Title"
>     composer = "Composer"
> }
> 
> << \relative c' { c2 c c c c1 ^\markup{ \roman roman } ^\markup{ \sans sans } 
> ^\markup{ \typewriter typewriter } }
> \addlyrics { This is~a ly -- ric } >>
> Trying to solve this, I forced lilypond to keep the default text fonts, but I 
> notice that the lyric tie is not positioned properly.
> 
> \version "2.20.0"
> 
> \include "oll-core/package.ily"
> \loadPackage notation-fonts
> \useNotationFont \with {
>   roman = "TeXGyre Schola"
>   sans = "TeXGyre Heros"
>   typewriter = "TeXGyre Cursor"
> } "profondo"
> 
> \header {
>     title = "Title"
>     composer = "Composer"
> }
> 
> << \relative c' { c2 c c c c1 ^\markup{ \roman roman } ^\markup{ \sans sans } 
> ^\markup{ \typewriter typewriter } }
> \addlyrics { This is~a ly -- ric } >>
> So, why the text font is automatically changed? And why the lyric tie is not 
> well positioned? Is there a solution?
> Thanks.
> 

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openLilyLib and text fonts

2020-06-06 Thread Tiago Pereira
Hi!
I'm using openLilyLib to change the notation font of my lilypond scores. The 
problem is: when I change the notation font, the text font is automatically 
changed to a font that I don't know what it is.
Default:
\version "2.20.0"

\header {
    title = "Title"
    composer = "Composer"
}

<< \relative c' { c2 c c c c1 ^\markup{ \roman roman } ^\markup{ \sans sans } 
^\markup{ \typewriter typewriter } }
\addlyrics { This is~a ly -- ric } >>
With new notation font:
\version "2.20.0"

\include "oll-core/package.ily"
\loadPackage notation-fonts
\useNotationFont "profondo"

\header {
    title = "Title"
    composer = "Composer"
}

<< \relative c' { c2 c c c c1 ^\markup{ \roman roman } ^\markup{ \sans sans } 
^\markup{ \typewriter typewriter } }
\addlyrics { This is~a ly -- ric } >>
Trying to solve this, I forced lilypond to keep the default text fonts, but I 
notice that the lyric tie is not positioned properly.

\version "2.20.0"

\include "oll-core/package.ily"
\loadPackage notation-fonts
\useNotationFont \with {
  roman = "TeXGyre Schola"
  sans = "TeXGyre Heros"
  typewriter = "TeXGyre Cursor"
} "profondo"

\header {
    title = "Title"
    composer = "Composer"
}

<< \relative c' { c2 c c c c1 ^\markup{ \roman roman } ^\markup{ \sans sans } 
^\markup{ \typewriter typewriter } }
\addlyrics { This is~a ly -- ric } >>
So, why the text font is automatically changed? And why the lyric tie is not 
well positioned? Is there a solution?
Thanks.


Re: Default text fonts change CenturySchL to Tex Gyre Schola?

2016-03-12 Thread Malte Meyn



Am 11.03.2016 um 19:49 schrieb Thomas Scharkowski:

Only recently I noticed the change of the default text fonts in
LilyPond. When did this take place and why?


When: In August 2015 (LilyPond 2.19.26). Why: I don’t know, probably you 
can find the reason in the discussion of issue 4552 
(https://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/4552/).


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Default text fonts change CenturySchL to Tex Gyre Schola?

2016-03-11 Thread Thomas Scharkowski
Only recently I noticed the change of the default text fonts in 
LilyPond. When did this take place and why?

Just curious.

Thomas

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Re: Changing Text Fonts

2015-01-24 Thread Werner LEMBERG

 BTW, the above output also shows the directories searched by
 fontconfig.

Oops.  I mean that

  lilypond -dshow-available-fonts 21 | less

also shows the directories searched by fontconfig.


Werner

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Re: Changing Text Fonts

2015-01-24 Thread tisimst
Matthew,

If Kieren is right about the font format, you might try using a free online 
TTF-to-OTF converter on the font file you'd like to use. Other than that, it 
looks like your syntax is correct. You could also change one of the main 
document fonts to be the one you are trying to use. 

- Abraham

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 On Jan 24, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Matthew James Briggs [via Lilypond] 
 ml-node+s1069038n170938...@n5.nabble.com wrote:
 
 Hello, I am brand new to this and trying to learn how to change the fonts 
 used for text elements.  In this case, Title.
 
 The example below does not work (I'm using a crazy font for the example, in 
 actuality I would use something else, but this proves for sure that the Font 
 is not being changed).
 
 Attached is a picture of the Font Book application on my Mac.  How do I know 
 the exact name of the font-name that should be used in the ly file?  Could 
 this differ from what I see in the FontBook?
 
 Also, I usually like to increase the kerning of the Title.  Is this possible?
 
 Thanks.
 
 .mjb
 
 \version 2.18.2
 
 
 \header {
   title = \markup {
 \override #'(font-name . Baghdad)
 This my Masterpiece
   }
 }
 
 \paper {
   #(set-paper-size letter)
 }
 
 \score {
   
 \violinPart
 \marimbaPart
   
   \layout { }
   \midi { }
 }
 
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Re: Changing Text Fonts

2015-01-24 Thread Werner LEMBERG

 The example below does not work
 
 To my knowledge, Lilypond has difficulty — i.e., fails completely —
 with older Mac OS True Type (.ttf) fonts, and Baghdad is one of
 those [at least on my machine].

Being an old Mac OS TTF per se is not a problem.  A font must have a
Unicode cmap so that lilypond can use it – to be more precise,
FreeType must be able to synthesize a Unicode cmap.  The library does
this for easy cases like Mac Roman encoding, IIRC, but it doesn't
apply complicated encoding mappings.

In case of Baghdad.ttf (which I just downloaded from the internet),
the font is lying.  While it has a Unicode cmap, it is completely
wrong, mapping the Arabic characters to Latin code points.  Putting
the font into a place where fontconfig can find it, I get the attached
result while compiling the following

  \header {
 title = \markup {
  \override #'(font-name . Baghdad)
  This my Masterpiece
}
  }

  { c'' }

 Attached is a picture of the Font Book application on my Mac.  How
 do I know the exact name of the font-name that should be used in
 the ly file?  Could this differ from what I see in the FontBook?
 
 The name in the “Full Name” field of FontBook is, I believe, the one
 you should use.

In case of doubt, call

  lilypond -dshow-available-fonts 21 | less

on the command line and search for the font file.  For example, on my
GNU/Linux box, I get

  family Baghdad
   Baghdad:style=Regular

If you want more precise information, try

  fc-list | less

This time, I get

  /home/wl/.fonts/Baghdad.ttf: Baghdad:style=Regular

BTW, the above output also shows the directories searched by
fontconfig.

 Also, I usually like to increase the kerning of the Title.  Is this
 possible?
 
 I don’t believe so.

You probably don't mean kerning but the spacing between the glyphs in
a title, right?  You can manually insert small horizontal whitespace
between the title characters, using e.g.

  H = \markup { \hspace #0.5 }
  {
c''^\markup { foo }
c''^\markup { \concat { f \H o \H o } }
  }


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Re: Changing Text Fonts

2015-01-24 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Matthew,

 The example below does not work

To my knowledge, Lilypond has difficulty — i.e., fails completely — with older 
Mac OS True Type (.ttf) fonts, and Baghdad is one of those [at least on my 
machine]. Try another “crazy font”, one which is an OpenType or (preferably) 
PostScript font.

 Attached is a picture of the Font Book application on my Mac.  How do I know 
 the exact name of the font-name that should be used in the ly file?  Could 
 this differ from what I see in the FontBook?

The name in the “Full Name” field of FontBook is, I believe, the one you should 
use.

 Also, I usually like to increase the kerning of the Title.  Is this possible?

I don’t believe so.

Hope this helps!
Kieren.
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Re: Text fonts

2014-11-20 Thread tisimst
Urs,

Not sure if this would be of any help to you, but here's a condensed 
variant of the full Vollkorn family.

Regards,
Abraham

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 Am 16.11.2014 01:10, schrieb Noeck:
 
  Hi Urs, 
  
  you once asked for nice fonts which come in several »degrees of 
  boldness«. You chose Minion Pro, if I remember correctly. I just 
 found 
  »Vollkorn« which comes in 8 type faces: 
 http://vollkorn-typeface.com
  I let you decide how you like it – I would say it is worth 
 looking at. 
  
  Cheers, 
  Joram 
 
 
 Hi Joram, 
 
 Vollkorn is a good font, and I can imagine it works well with 
 LilyPond 
 (due to its inherent weight). 
 But the main issue I am looking for is the combination of weights and 
 a 
 condensed variant. 
 
 Having a condensed font is a huge benefit when trying to fit more 
 music 
 with lyrics on the page (because with LilyPond's default font lyrics 
 generally need more horizontal space than the corresponding music. 
 Minion Pro is extremely good because it also provides a nicely graded 
 set of weights *onto* the condensed width. With that you can really 
 fine-tune the appearance of all the different items like lyrics, 
 barnumbers, textscripts etc. to form a consistent overall appearance 
 with LilyPond's music. However, I'd still like to have a free 
 alternative to that one for better usability. 
 
 Recently I got a version of Linux Libertine that has been condensed 
 by 
 Abraham Lee, unfortunately I didn't have time to really test it so 
 far. 
 But this may actually be a good thing because I find Linux Libertine 
 to 
 be a very nice complement to LilyPond too. 
 
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Re: Text fonts

2014-11-20 Thread Urs Liska

Hey, Abraham, cool!

I think it is definitely something to try out for an alternative 
LilyPond style.
Did you do that? If yes, how is the relation between automated scaling 
and manual decisions?


Best
Urs

Am 20.11.2014 14:19, schrieb tisimst:

Urs,

Not sure if this would be of any help to you, but here's a condensed 
variant of the full Vollkorn family.


Regards,
Abraham

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email] /user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=168839i=0 wrote:


Am 16.11.2014 01:10, schrieb Noeck:

 Hi Urs,

 you once asked for nice fonts which come in several »degrees of
 boldness«. You chose Minion Pro, if I remember correctly. I just found
 »Vollkorn« which comes in 8 type faces: http://vollkorn-typeface.com
 I let you decide how you like it -- I would say it is worth looking 
at.


 Cheers,
 Joram

Hi Joram,

Vollkorn is a good font, and I can imagine it works well with LilyPond
(due to its inherent weight).
But the main issue I am looking for is the combination of weights and a
condensed variant.

Having a condensed font is a huge benefit when trying to fit more music
with lyrics on the page (because with LilyPond's default font lyrics
generally need more horizontal space than the corresponding music.
Minion Pro is extremely good because it also provides a nicely graded
set of weights *onto* the condensed width. With that you can really
fine-tune the appearance of all the different items like lyrics,
barnumbers, textscripts etc. to form a consistent overall appearance
with LilyPond's music. However, I'd still like to have a free
alternative to that one for better usability.

Recently I got a version of Linux Libertine that has been condensed by
Abraham Lee, unfortunately I didn't have time to really test it so far.
But this may actually be a good thing because I find Linux Libertine to
be a very nice complement to LilyPond too.

Best
Urs

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Re: Text fonts

2014-11-20 Thread tisimst
I'm afraid I don't entirely understand your question...

-Abraham

Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 20, 2014, at 6:27 AM, Urs Liska [via Lilypond] 
 ml-node+s1069038n168840...@n5.nabble.com wrote:
 
 Hey, Abraham, cool!
 
 I think it is definitely something to try out for an alternative LilyPond 
 style.
 Did you do that? If yes, how is the relation between automated scaling and 
 manual decisions?
 
 Best
 Urs
 
 Am 20.11.2014 14:19, schrieb tisimst:
 Urs,
 
 Not sure if this would be of any help to you, but here's a condensed variant 
 of the full Vollkorn family.
 
 Regards,
 Abraham
 
 On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Urs Liska [via Lilypond] [hidden email] 
 wrote:
 
 Am 16.11.2014 01:10, schrieb Noeck:
 
  Hi Urs, 
  
  you once asked for nice fonts which come in several »degrees of 
  boldness«. You chose Minion Pro, if I remember correctly. I just found 
  »Vollkorn« which comes in 8 type faces: http://vollkorn-typeface.com
  I let you decide how you like it – I would say it is worth looking at. 
  
  Cheers, 
  Joram 
 
 Hi Joram, 
 
 Vollkorn is a good font, and I can imagine it works well with LilyPond 
 (due to its inherent weight). 
 But the main issue I am looking for is the combination of weights and a 
 condensed variant. 
 
 Having a condensed font is a huge benefit when trying to fit more music 
 with lyrics on the page (because with LilyPond's default font lyrics 
 generally need more horizontal space than the corresponding music. 
 Minion Pro is extremely good because it also provides a nicely graded 
 set of weights *onto* the condensed width. With that you can really 
 fine-tune the appearance of all the different items like lyrics, 
 barnumbers, textscripts etc. to form a consistent overall appearance 
 with LilyPond's music. However, I'd still like to have a free 
 alternative to that one for better usability. 
 
 Recently I got a version of Linux Libertine that has been condensed by 
 Abraham Lee, unfortunately I didn't have time to really test it so far. 
 But this may actually be a good thing because I find Linux Libertine to 
 be a very nice complement to LilyPond too. 
 
 Best 
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Re: Text fonts

2014-11-20 Thread Stan Sanderson
I note that the full name for Vollkorn Condensed Regular is (according to Font 
Book) “Vollkorn,”  which is the same as the full name for Vollkorn Regular. How 
does the style sheet distinguish between the two versions?

Stan

On Nov 20, 2014, at 8:24 AM, tisimst tisimst.lilyp...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm afraid I don't entirely understand your question...
 
 -Abraham
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 20, 2014, at 6:27 AM, Urs Liska [via Lilypond] [hidden email] wrote:
 
 Hey, Abraham, cool!
 
 I think it is definitely something to try out for an alternative LilyPond 
 style.
 Did you do that? If yes, how is the relation between automated scaling and 
 manual decisions?
 
 Best
 Urs
 
 Am 20.11.2014 14:19, schrieb tisimst:
 Urs,
 
 Not sure if this would be of any help to you, but here's a condensed 
 variant of the full Vollkorn family.
 
 Regards,
 Abraham
 
 On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Urs Liska [via Lilypond] [hidden email] 
 wrote:
 
 Am 16.11.2014 01:10, schrieb Noeck:
 
  Hi Urs, 
  
  you once asked for nice fonts which come in several »degrees of 
  boldness«. You chose Minion Pro, if I remember correctly. I just found 
  »Vollkorn« which comes in 8 type faces: http://vollkorn-typeface.com
  I let you decide how you like it – I would say it is worth looking at. 
  
  Cheers, 
  Joram 
 
 Hi Joram, 
 
 Vollkorn is a good font, and I can imagine it works well with LilyPond 
 (due to its inherent weight). 
 But the main issue I am looking for is the combination of weights and a 
 condensed variant. 
 
 Having a condensed font is a huge benefit when trying to fit more music 
 with lyrics on the page (because with LilyPond's default font lyrics 
 generally need more horizontal space than the corresponding music. 
 Minion Pro is extremely good because it also provides a nicely graded 
 set of weights *onto* the condensed width. With that you can really 
 fine-tune the appearance of all the different items like lyrics, 
 barnumbers, textscripts etc. to form a consistent overall appearance 
 with LilyPond's music. However, I'd still like to have a free 
 alternative to that one for better usability. 
 
 Recently I got a version of Linux Libertine that has been condensed by 
 Abraham Lee, unfortunately I didn't have time to really test it so far. 
 But this may actually be a good thing because I find Linux Libertine to 
 be a very nice complement to LilyPond too. 
 
 Best 
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Re: Text fonts

2014-11-20 Thread Urs Liska


Am 20.11.2014 15:24, schrieb tisimst:

I'm afraid I don't entirely understand your question...


1)
Did you produce the condensed set?

2)
If so, did you design the glyph shapes individually or through applying 
some sort of automatic scaling?


I think that's clearer, isnt it?

Urs



-Abraham

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Hey, Abraham, cool!

I think it is definitely something to try out for an alternative 
LilyPond style.
Did you do that? If yes, how is the relation between automated 
scaling and manual decisions?


Best
Urs

Am 20.11.2014 14:19, schrieb tisimst:

Urs,

Not sure if this would be of any help to you, but here's a condensed 
variant of the full Vollkorn family.


Regards,
Abraham

On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Urs Liska [via Lilypond] [hidden 
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Am 16.11.2014 01:10, schrieb Noeck:

 Hi Urs,

 you once asked for nice fonts which come in several »degrees of
 boldness«. You chose Minion Pro, if I remember correctly. I just 
found

 »Vollkorn« which comes in 8 type faces: http://vollkorn-typeface.com
 I let you decide how you like it -- I would say it is worth 
looking at.


 Cheers,
 Joram

Hi Joram,

Vollkorn is a good font, and I can imagine it works well with LilyPond
(due to its inherent weight).
But the main issue I am looking for is the combination of weights 
and a

condensed variant.

Having a condensed font is a huge benefit when trying to fit more 
music

with lyrics on the page (because with LilyPond's default font lyrics
generally need more horizontal space than the corresponding music.
Minion Pro is extremely good because it also provides a nicely graded
set of weights *onto* the condensed width. With that you can really
fine-tune the appearance of all the different items like lyrics,
barnumbers, textscripts etc. to form a consistent overall appearance
with LilyPond's music. However, I'd still like to have a free
alternative to that one for better usability.

Recently I got a version of Linux Libertine that has been 
condensed by
Abraham Lee, unfortunately I didn't have time to really test it so 
far.
But this may actually be a good thing because I find Linux 
Libertine to

be a very nice complement to LilyPond too.

Best
Urs

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Re: Text fonts

2014-11-20 Thread tisimst
Stan,

As it stands, LilyPond doesn't (yet) associate condensed, extended, 
medium, semi-bold, black, etc. variants with the normal italic, bold, 
and bold-italic variants in the font family. Thus, the condensed 
variants are used with the name Vollkorn Condensed. If you want to 
use the medium or semi-bold variants, you'll need to reference them 
with their full names.

Regards,
Abraham

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 I note that the full name for Vollkorn Condensed Regular is 
 (according to Font Book) “Vollkorn,”  which is the same as the 
 full name for Vollkorn Regular. How does the style sheet distinguish 
 between the two versions?
 
 Stan
 
 On Nov 20, 2014, at 8:24 AM, tisimst [hidden email] wrote:
 
 I'm afraid I don't entirely understand your question...
 
 -Abraham
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 Hey, Abraham, cool!
 
 I think it is definitely something to try out for an alternative 
 LilyPond style.
 Did you do that? If yes, how is the relation between automated 
 scaling and manual decisions?
 
 Best
 Urs
 
 Am 20.11.2014 14:19, schrieb tisimst:
 Urs,
 
 Not sure if this would be of any help to you, but here's a 
 condensed variant of the full Vollkorn family.
 
 Regards,
 Abraham
 
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 Am 16.11.2014 01:10, schrieb Noeck:
 
  Hi Urs, 
  
  you once asked for nice fonts which come in several »degrees 
 of 
  boldness«. You chose Minion Pro, if I remember correctly. I 
 just found 
  »Vollkorn« which comes in 8 type faces: 
 http://vollkorn-typeface.com
  I let you decide how you like it – I would say it is worth 
 looking at. 
  
  Cheers, 
  Joram 
 
 Hi Joram, 
 
 Vollkorn is a good font, and I can imagine it works well with 
 LilyPond 
 (due to its inherent weight). 
 But the main issue I am looking for is the combination of weights 
 and a 
 condensed variant. 
 
 Having a condensed font is a huge benefit when trying to fit more 
 music 
 with lyrics on the page (because with LilyPond's default font 
 lyrics 
 generally need more horizontal space than the corresponding 
 music. 
 Minion Pro is extremely good because it also provides a nicely 
 graded 
 set of weights *onto* the condensed width. With that you can 
 really 
 fine-tune the appearance of all the different items like lyrics, 
 barnumbers, textscripts etc. to form a consistent overall 
 appearance 
 with LilyPond's music. However, I'd still like to have a free 
 alternative to that one for better usability. 
 
 Recently I got a version of Linux Libertine that has been 
 condensed by 
 Abraham Lee, unfortunately I didn't have time to really test it 
 so far. 
 But this may actually be a good thing because I find Linux 
 Libertine to 
 be a very nice complement to LilyPond too. 
 
 Best 
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Urs,

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Urs Liska [via Lilypond] 
ml-node+s1069038n16884...@n5.nabble.com wrote:
 
 Am 20.11.2014 15:24, schrieb tisimst:
 I'm afraid I don't entirely understand your question...
 
 1)
 Did you produce the condensed set?

Yes.

 2)
 If so, did you design the glyph shapes individually or through 
 applying some sort of automatic scaling?

Automatic scaling. I realize this may be heresy, but it works, doesn't 
it?

 
 I think that's clearer, isnt it?
 
 Urs

Yes, thanks for clarifying :)

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Re: Text fonts

2014-11-20 Thread Urs Liska


Am 20.11.2014 17:27, schrieb tisimst:

Urs,

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Urs Liska [via Lilypond] [hidden 
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Am 20.11.2014 15:24, schrieb tisimst:

I'm afraid I don't entirely understand your question...


1)
Did you produce the condensed set?


Yes.


2)
If so, did you design the glyph shapes individually or through 
applying some sort of automatic scaling?


Automatic scaling. I realize this may be heresy, but it works, doesn't it?


I don't want to discuss if it's heresy, but it's noticeable.
I didn't test it on a score yet, only on a document with continuous text 
(where it may not be so appropriate in the first place), and the result 
*is* quite noticeable.
However, I'll have to test it as LilyPond lyrics, and maybe in a 
document with narrow columns where you'd expect a condensed font.


Thanks anyway
Urs





I think that's clearer, isnt it?

Urs


Yes, thanks for clarifying :)

Regards,
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2014-11-20 Thread tisimst
Urs,

If tried it in LibreOffice, then I'm not surprised at the noticeable-ness (in 
an ugly way) of the font. I have only seen one font look good in that program. 
When you put it in a PDF, however, it should look a LOT better, especially in a 
non-body text. 

-Abraham

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 Am 20.11.2014 15:24, schrieb tisimst:
 I'm afraid I don't entirely understand your question...
 
 1)
 Did you produce the condensed set?
 
 Yes.
 
 2)
 If so, did you design the glyph shapes individually or through applying 
 some sort of automatic scaling?
 
 Automatic scaling. I realize this may be heresy, but it works, doesn't it?
 
 I don't want to discuss if it's heresy, but it's noticeable.
 I didn't test it on a score yet, only on a document with continuous text 
 (where it may not be so appropriate in the first place), and the result *is* 
 quite noticeable.
 However, I'll have to test it as LilyPond lyrics, and maybe in a document 
 with narrow columns where you'd expect a condensed font.
 
 Thanks anyway
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 I think that's clearer, isnt it?
 
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 Yes, thanks for clarifying :)
 
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Am 20.11.2014 18:02, schrieb tisimst:

Urs,

If tried it in LibreOffice, then I'm not surprised at the 
noticeable-ness (in an ugly way) of the font. I have only seen one 
font look good in that program. When you put it in a PDF, however, it 
should look a LOT better, especially in a non-body text.


I let LuaLaTeX compile a text document, with microtype support, so 
*that* is not the issue ...
However, I know the document itself wasn't really appropriate for *any* 
condensed font.
Unfortunately I don't have any time to look for a realistic test case 
right now.


Urs



-Abraham

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Am 20.11.2014 17:27, schrieb tisimst:

Urs,

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Urs Liska [via Lilypond] [hidden 
email] /user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=168847i=0 wrote:


Am 20.11.2014 15:24, schrieb tisimst:

I'm afraid I don't entirely understand your question...


1)
Did you produce the condensed set?


Yes.


2)
If so, did you design the glyph shapes individually or through 
applying some sort of automatic scaling?


Automatic scaling. I realize this may be heresy, but it works, 
doesn't it?


I don't want to discuss if it's heresy, but it's noticeable.
I didn't test it on a score yet, only on a document with continuous 
text (where it may not be so appropriate in the first place), and the 
result *is* quite noticeable.
However, I'll have to test it as LilyPond lyrics, and maybe in a 
document with narrow columns where you'd expect a condensed font.


Thanks anyway
Urs





I think that's clearer, isnt it?

Urs


Yes, thanks for clarifying :)

Regards,
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I have no idea what I'm doing (just downloaded FontForge for the first time),
but I tried some more relaxed settings and was really happy with the output.

Vollkorn-Compressed2.otf
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Looks good, tyronicus! Thanks for sharing that. What settings did you use?

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90% for counters and 80% for side bearings. I felt like the letters were
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Re: Text fonts

2014-11-16 Thread Urs Liska


Am 16.11.2014 01:10, schrieb Noeck:

Hi Urs,

you once asked for nice fonts which come in several »degrees of
boldness«. You chose Minion Pro, if I remember correctly. I just found
»Vollkorn« which comes in 8 type faces: http://vollkorn-typeface.com
I let you decide how you like it – I would say it is worth looking at.

Cheers,
Joram



Hi Joram,

Vollkorn is a good font, and I can imagine it works well with LilyPond 
(due to its inherent weight).
But the main issue I am looking for is the combination of weights and a 
condensed variant.


Having a condensed font is a huge benefit when trying to fit more music 
with lyrics on the page (because with LilyPond's default font lyrics 
generally need more horizontal space than the corresponding music.
Minion Pro is extremely good because it also provides a nicely graded 
set of weights *onto* the condensed width. With that you can really 
fine-tune the appearance of all the different items like lyrics, 
barnumbers, textscripts etc. to form a consistent overall appearance 
with LilyPond's music. However, I'd still like to have a free 
alternative to that one for better usability.


Recently I got a version of Linux Libertine that has been condensed by 
Abraham Lee, unfortunately I didn't have time to really test it so far. 
But this may actually be a good thing because I find Linux Libertine to 
be a very nice complement to LilyPond too.


Best
Urs

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Text fonts

2014-11-15 Thread Noeck
Hi Urs,

you once asked for nice fonts which come in several »degrees of
boldness«. You chose Minion Pro, if I remember correctly. I just found
»Vollkorn« which comes in 8 type faces: http://vollkorn-typeface.com
I let you decide how you like it – I would say it is worth looking at.

Cheers,
Joram

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gonville music font results in different text fonts on Linux and Mac

2012-04-03 Thread Klaus Föhl
Hello,

I've experimentally changed my lilypond installations from feta to gonville,
and while the music grobs are changed in both cases
I find that on Linux debian squeeze 2.12.3 the text font remains
New Century Schoolbook, while on Mac OS X 2.14.2 the text font is changed
to a sans-serif/grotesk version for the entire document.

Both times I unzipped gonville-r9313.zip on the relevant machine
and renamed (mv) the existing fonts to a different name and instead
put (mv or cp -pr) the lilyfonts directory / folder as fonts in place.

The sections on the fonts look the same in 2.12.3 and 2.14.2 documentation.
Is it down to the different OS (Mac vs Linux) which makes for the difference
in the chosen text font? Is it to do with different fonts installed?
Why does the Mac change to some sans-serif (and which one this is?)
and Linux does not?

Best regards

Klaus

P.S. already used  lilypond -dshow-available-fonts x


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Re: Changing text fonts

2011-03-11 Thread Hannes Kuhnert
James Lowe schrieb:
 Well I showed you how to change the fonts already for the header just use
 the construct like
 
 \header {
   title = \markup { \override #'(font-name . Optima)  This is my Header
 } }

Of course that works, but it doesn’t change the font used for header lines in 
general.

 [internals reference]

That was indeed a good idea!


\override LyricText #'font-family = #'sans

My sans font is Lucida Sans. It doesn’t look good here. Feta seems to need a 
serif font.


\override ChordName #'font-family = #'roman

The context is named in plural but the object is named in singular.


Now im trying to fix some other issues with the help of the internals 
reference.


Hannes Kuhnert

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Changing text fonts

2011-03-10 Thread Hannes Kuhnert
Hello,

what needs to be done for changing fonts in general?

I tried things like
 \override Score.ChordNames #'font-family = #'roman
but it didn’t work.

I’m pretty sure, that
 \override … #'font-family = #'sans
etc. makes sense, but how can I find out, how the objects that have the font 
property are named?


Thanks in advance

Hannes

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RE: Changing text fonts

2011-03-10 Thread James Lowe
Hello,

)-Original Message-
)From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org
)[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] On
)Behalf Of Hannes Kuhnert
)Sent: 10 March 2011 12:07
)To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
)Subject: Changing text fonts
)
)Hello,
)
)what needs to be done for changing fonts in general?
)
)I tried things like
) \override Score.ChordNames #'font-family = #'roman but it didn’t work.
)
)I’m pretty sure, that
) \override … #'font-family = #'sans
)etc. makes sense, but how can I find out, how the objects that have the
)font property are named?
)

There are a few ways you can do this.

For instance if you want an explicit font for a specific markup you can use

\markup {  \override #'(font-name . Optima) hello }

If you wanted to override the font on a 'TextSpanner' you can use something like

\override TextSpanner #'(font-name) = Baskerville

So you can use the same method to choose a font for chord markups.

Also see:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/fonts#entire-document-fonts

Where you can set the entire document so that \sans or anything that uses 
'sans' as its value will use whatever font you need to use.

As to finding out what your PC has in terms of fonts and what names to use

Also see:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/fonts#fonts-explained

There is a lilypond command at the end of the section that you can run on the 
CLI to list out.

I hope this helps.

James



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Re: Changing text fonts

2011-03-10 Thread Hannes Kuhnert
James Lowe schrieb:
 If you wanted to override the font on a 'TextSpanner' you can use something
 like

 \override TextSpanner #'(font-name) = Baskerville

 So you can use the same method to choose a font for chord markups.

Thanks for your reply!

I already assumed that it works that way. But what do I have to insert for 
“TextSpanner”, if I want to change the font for chord markups? … or for the 
lyrics or the header?

For example “Score.ChordNames” doesn’t exist or at least doesn’t bear the font 
properties for the chord markup.

 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/fonts#entire-document-
 fonts

 Where you can set the entire document so that \sans or anything that uses
 'sans' as its value will use whatever font you need to use.

I read that before. I don’t want to change the generic aliases, but I want to 
choose them for objects where I don’t know how to do it.


Hannes Kuhnert

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RE: Changing text fonts

2011-03-10 Thread James Lowe
Hannes,

)-Original Message-
)From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org
)[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] On
)Behalf Of Hannes Kuhnert
)Sent: 10 March 2011 15:49
)To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
)Subject: Re: Changing text fonts
)
)James Lowe schrieb:
) If you wanted to override the font on a 'TextSpanner' you can use
) something like
)
) \override TextSpanner #'(font-name) = Baskerville
)
) So you can use the same method to choose a font for chord markups.
)
)Thanks for your reply!
)
)I already assumed that it works that way. But what do I have to insert for
)“TextSpanner”,

\override TextSpanner #'(font-name) = Baskerville for example. You can 
put this in your score construct so

--snip---

\version 2.13.51

MyMusic = \relative c' { a\startTextSpanner b c d | a b c d | a b c 
d\stopTextSpanner }

\score {
  \new Staff {
\override TextSpanner #'(font-size) = #-2
\override TextSpanner #'(font-name) = Baskerville
\relative c'' { 
  \MyMusic
}
  }
}

--snip--

You can also put the override at the start of the music itself in a simple file

--snip--

\version 2.13.51

\relative c' { 
\override TextSpanner #'(font-size) = #-2
\override TextSpanner #'(font-name) = Baskerville
   a\starTextSpanner b c d | a b c d | a b c d\stoptextSpanner 
}

---snip---


)if I want to change the font for chord markups? …

I'm guessing (because I don't use chords) by looking in the internals that if 
you look for 'font-name' you get a hit in the section 'font-interface'.

Then if you look in 'Internal properties' lower down you can see all the 'grob 
interfaces' that use this and I can see, for example 'ChordName' so you could 
try

\override ChordName #'(font-name) = Baskerville or whatever font you want.



)or for
)the lyrics or the header?

Well I showed you how to change the fonts already for the header just use the 
construct like

\header {
  title = \markup { \override #'(font-name . Optima)  This is my Header }
}

)
)For example “Score.ChordNames” doesn’t exist or at least doesn’t bear
)the font properties for the chord markup.
)
) http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/fonts#entire-
)docu
) ment-
) fonts
)
) Where you can set the entire document so that \sans or anything that
) uses 'sans' as its value will use whatever font you need to use.
)
)I read that before. I don’t want to change the generic aliases, but I want
)to choose them for objects where I don’t know how to do it.

You also need to take some time and look in the Learning Manual, specifically

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/learning/the-internals-reference-manual

This is a very good introduction and one I learnt from on how to find this kind 
of information.

James


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Re: Last 2.13 releases and custom text fonts

2011-03-01 Thread flup2

Tested with 2.13.52. Working fine :)

Thanks.
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Last 2.13 releases and custom text fonts

2011-02-27 Thread flup2

Hello, 

It seems that Lilypond from 2.13.47 has problem including some text fonts
(at least on my OS X installation).

Some fonts work (Courier Neue, for instance), other do not work (Courier, or
many others including Mididesign font like Sonora or Controla). I deleted
the lilypond font cache and the fontconfig cache, but nothing change. The
only way is going back to 2.13.46 release (no problem with that release).

Console gives me that message : 
Sortie mise en page vers « test_font.ps »...ERROR: Unbound variable:
file-name

Here is a little example.

%

\header{title = test police}


\relative{
c' d e_\markup{Aa} f_\markup {
\override #'(font-name . Sonora)
  { Aa A A AThis text is in Vera Bold }
  }
}
%

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Re: Last 2.13 releases and custom text fonts

2011-02-27 Thread Phil Holmes

See below:

- Original Message - 
From: flup2 phili...@philmassart.net

To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 11:00 AM
Subject: Last 2.13 releases and custom text fonts



Hello,

It seems that Lilypond from 2.13.47 has problem including some text fonts
(at least on my OS X installation).

Some fonts work (Courier Neue, for instance), other do not work (Courier, or
many others including Mididesign font like Sonora or Controla). I deleted
the lilypond font cache and the fontconfig cache, but nothing change. The
only way is going back to 2.13.46 release (no problem with that release).

Console gives me that message :
Sortie mise en page vers « test_font.ps »...ERROR: Unbound variable:
file-name

Here is a little example.

%

\header{title = test police}


\relative{
c' d e_\markup{Aa} f_\markup {
   \override #'(font-name . Sonora)
 { Aa A A AThis text is in Vera Bold }
 }
}
%


There was a problem with font handling with some of the 13.4x releases - 
have you tried downloading the latest 13.51 release, which has some fixes 
for this?


--
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Re: Last 2.13 releases and custom text fonts

2011-02-27 Thread Timothy Sheasby
Have had the same issue -- also using a Mac. Found that installing some fonts 
directly in the System fonts folder fixed the problem -- but not always. Seems 
to be pango related I think.
On 27 Feb 2011, at 1:05 PM, Phil Holmes wrote:

 See below:
 
 - Original Message - From: flup2 phili...@philmassart.net
 To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 11:00 AM
 Subject: Last 2.13 releases and custom text fonts
 
 
 
 Hello,
 
 It seems that Lilypond from 2.13.47 has problem including some text fonts
 (at least on my OS X installation).
 
 Some fonts work (Courier Neue, for instance), other do not work (Courier, or
 many others including Mididesign font like Sonora or Controla). I deleted
 the lilypond font cache and the fontconfig cache, but nothing change. The
 only way is going back to 2.13.46 release (no problem with that release).
 
 Console gives me that message :
 Sortie mise en page vers « test_font.ps »...ERROR: Unbound variable:
 file-name
 
 Here is a little example.
 
 %
 
 \header{title = test police}
 
 
 \relative{
 c' d e_\markup{Aa} f_\markup {
   \override #'(font-name . Sonora)
 { Aa A A AThis text is in Vera Bold }
 }
 }
 %
 
 
 There was a problem with font handling with some of the 13.4x releases - have 
 you tried downloading the latest 13.51 release, which has some fixes for this?
 
 --
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Re: Last 2.13 releases and custom text fonts

2011-02-27 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Timothy Sheasby schreef op zo 27-02-2011 om 13:11 [+0200]:
 Have had the same issue -- also using a Mac. Found that installing some fonts 
 directly in the System fonts folder fixed the problem -- but not always. 
 Seems to be pango related I think.

This is an oops, fixed in GIT.

Jan.

 On 27 Feb 2011, at 1:05 PM, Phil Holmes wrote:
 
  See below:
  
  - Original Message - From: flup2 phili...@philmassart.net
  To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
  Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 11:00 AM
  Subject: Last 2.13 releases and custom text fonts
  
  
  
  Hello,
  
  It seems that Lilypond from 2.13.47 has problem including some text fonts
  (at least on my OS X installation).
  
  Some fonts work (Courier Neue, for instance), other do not work (Courier, or
  many others including Mididesign font like Sonora or Controla). I deleted
  the lilypond font cache and the fontconfig cache, but nothing change. The
  only way is going back to 2.13.46 release (no problem with that release).
  
  Console gives me that message :
  Sortie mise en page vers « test_font.ps »...ERROR: Unbound variable:
  file-name
  
  Here is a little example.
  
  %
  
  \header{title = test police}
  
  
  \relative{
  c' d e_\markup{Aa} f_\markup {
\override #'(font-name . Sonora)
  { Aa A A AThis text is in Vera Bold }
  }
  }
  %
  
  
  There was a problem with font handling with some of the 13.4x releases - 
  have you tried downloading the latest 13.51 release, which has some fixes 
  for this?
  
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Fwd: Text fonts

2010-11-25 Thread Henrik Frisk
Sorry, forgot to CC the list...

-- Forwarded message --
From: Henrik Frisk fris...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: Text fonts
To: Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org


 but I'm guessing /usr/share/fonts is just as good

 Well, yes, but I consider it a bad thing to install local stuff into
 the /usr tree.  A better place is /usr/local/share/fonts.  However,
 you should check /etc/fonts/conf.d whether this directory is scanned
 by fontconfig by default.  Alas, there isn't a GUI for fontconfig yet,
 as far as I know, which would greatly simplify the manipulation of
 such issues.

I can live without the GUI now that I know what to look for and where
to find it. But, yes, I guess it would be nice.

 (since that's where the lilypond fonts live)?

 This is the wrong reason.  LilyPond fonts could be installed at any
 place since it explicitly tells fontconfig to scan its own font
 directory.

As I said, I know very little about fonts... How and when does
Lilypond/fontconfig scan for new fonts?

/Henrik

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Re: Text fonts

2010-11-25 Thread Werner LEMBERG

 How and when does Lilypond/fontconfig scan for new fonts?

At startup, lilypond adds its own font directories to the list of
directories already controlled by fontconfig.  This is even
controllable by the end user with ly:font-config-add-directory and
ly:font-config-add-font in case you want to make more fonts known to
lilypond.


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Text fonts

2010-11-23 Thread Henrik Frisk
Hi all,

I'm using a font all the time in LaTeX (Adobe's Frutiger) that I
select in my LaTeX documents with

\renewcommand{\rmdefault}{pfr}

Can I make this font selectable in Lilypond, and if so, how would I do
it? It doesn't show up in when I run:

$ lilypond -dshow-available-fonts x

I have to admit I know very little about fonts so please excuse me if
this is covered by the manual or is plain impossible. I'm running
Fedora13.

Thanks for any help,

/Henrik

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Re: Text fonts

2010-11-23 Thread Werner LEMBERG

 I'm using a font all the time in LaTeX (Adobe's Frutiger) that I
 select in my LaTeX documents with
 
 \renewcommand{\rmdefault}{pfr}
 
 Can I make this font selectable in Lilypond, and if so, how would I do
 it?

You must put your fonts (PFB, TTF, OTF, etc.) into a directory
searched by FontConfig.  On a GNU/Linux box like yours, this would be,
for example, ~/.fonts.


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Wrong text fonts; no dvi

2005-06-30 Thread Jos Smeets
Hi all,

I experience some problems with the text fonts and dvi output. These
problems first appeared when after I uninstalled the Slackware package
for lily 2.4.2 and then compiled and installed 2.5.26. I have now
installed lily 2.6.0 (on Slackware 10.0) and they problems are still
there. I have searched the mailing lists and documentation for a
solution, but couldn't find it.

When I compile morgenlied.ly (from examples page on the site) I do not
get the CM font as in the example on the lilypond site. Look at
http://www.jossmeets.nl/morgenlied.png to see what I get. When I 
latex any latex file I do get proper CM fonts. So I suspect it is
something in the font configuration of my lily installation. Any ideas
anyone? Here is the output of lilypond --verbose morgenlied.ly:

GNU LilyPond 2.6.0

LILYPOND_DATADIR=/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.0
LILYPONDPREFIX=/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.0
LOCALEDIR=/usr/share/locale

Effective prefix: /usr/share/lilypond/2.6.0
PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/
opt/www/htdig/bin:/usr/lib/java/bin:/usr/lib/java/jre/bin:/opt/kde/bin:/
usr/lib/qt/bin:/usr/share/texmf/bin:.:/home/jos/bin Initializing
FontConfig... adding font directory: /usr/share/lilypond/2.6.0/fonts/
otf/ adding font directory: /usr/share/lilypond/2.6.0/fonts/type1/
adding font directory: /usr/share/lilypond/2.6.0/fonts/svg/ Processing
`morgenlied.ly' Parsing...[/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.0/ly/init.ly[/usr/
share/lilypond/2.6.0/ly/declarations-init.ly[/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.0/
ly/music-functions-init.ly][/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.0/ly/nederlands.ly]
[/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.0/ly/drumpitch-init.ly][/usr/share/
lilypond/2.6.0/ly/chord-modifiers-init.ly][/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.0/ly/
script-init.ly][/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.0/ly/scale-definitions-init.ly]
[/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.0/ly/grace-init.ly][/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.0/
ly/midi-init.ly[/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.0/ly/performer-init.ly]][/usr/
share/lilypond/2.6.0/ly/paper-defaults.ly[/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.0/ly/
titling-init.ly]][/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.0/ly/engraver-init.ly][/usr/
share/lilypond/2.6.0/ly/dynamic-scripts-init.ly][/usr/share/
lilypond/2.6.0/ly/spanners-init.ly][/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.0/ly/
property-init.ly]][morgenlied.ly Interpreting music... [/usr/share/
lilypond/2.6.0/fonts/otf/emmentaler-20.otf][8][16][17] elapsed time:
0.61 seconds Element count 2556 (spanners 143) Preprocessing graphical
objects... Grob count 3276[/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.0/fonts/otf/
emmentaler-11.otf][/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.0/fonts/otf/
emmentaler-13.otf][/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.0/fonts/otf/
emmentaler-14.otf][/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.0/fonts/otf/
emmentaler-16.otf][/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.0/fonts/otf/
emmentaler-18.otf] Calculating line breaks...
[century_schoolbook_l__2.53125] Global shortest duration is 1/16 [feta-
alphabet16_5.7998046875][century_schoolbook_l__bold_4.017578125]
[century_schoolbook_l__2.8408203125]
[century_schoolbook_l__bold_3.189453125]
[century_schoolbook_l__bold_4.509765625][3]
[century_schoolbook_l__bold_italic_3.189453125]
[century_schoolbook_l__3.189453125][6][9][12][15] Optimal demerits:
3.400352 Element count 1142.[[/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.0/fonts/otf/
aybabtu.otf]0][1][2][3] Interpreting music... elapsed time: 0.28
seconds MIDI output to `morgenlied.midi'... Track... [0][1][2][3][4]
[century_schoolbook_l__bold_5.0625] Calculating page breaks... Layout
output to `morgenlied.ps'...[/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.0/fonts/type1/
PFAaybabtu.pfa][/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/VeraBd.ttf][/usr/X11R6/lib/
X11/fonts/TTF/VeraBI.ttf][/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/Vera.ttf][/usr/
share/lilypond/2.6.0/fonts/type1/PFAemmentaler-16.pfa][/usr/share/
lilypond/2.6.0/fonts/type1//feta-alphabet16.pfa][/usr/share/
lilypond/2.6.0/ps/music-drawing-routines.ps][/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.0/
ps/lilyponddefs.ps]Converting to `morgenlied.pdf'... Invoking `gs   -
dSAFER  -dCompatibilityLevel=1.4  -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -
r1200  -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -sOutputFile=morgenlied.pdf -c .setpdfwrite -
f morgenlied.ps'...]]


Another problem is that I cannot get any dvi output any longer. If I
understood well, this should work wit the command lilypond -b tex -f
dvi morgenlied. Correct? When I do this, the end of the verbose output
says:

[...]
Element count 1142.[[/usr/share/lilypond/2.6.0/fonts/otf/
aybabtu.otf]0][1][2][3] Interpreting music...
elapsed time: 0.28 seconds
MIDI output to `morgenlied.midi'...
Track... [0][1][2][3][4]
Calculating page breaks...
Layout output to `morgenlied.tex'...unnamed port: In expression (utf8-
string feta-alphabet16 5.7998046875 8): unnamed port: Unbound
variable: utf8-string

I have not been able to find out what this means. Can anybody help me
with this?

Thanks!
Jos


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Re: Wrong text fonts; no dvi

2005-06-30 Thread Mats Bengtsson



Jos Smeets wrote:

Hi all,

I experience some problems with the text fonts and dvi output. These
problems first appeared when after I uninstalled the Slackware package
for lily 2.4.2 and then compiled and installed 2.5.26. I have now
installed lily 2.6.0 (on Slackware 10.0) and they problems are still
there. I have searched the mailing lists and documentation for a
solution, but couldn't find it.

When I compile morgenlied.ly (from examples page on the site) I do not
get the CM font as in the example on the lilypond site. Look at
http://www.jossmeets.nl/morgenlied.png to see what I get. When I 
latex any latex file I do get proper CM fonts. So I suspect it is

something in the font configuration of my lily installation.


LaTeX isn't used by LilyPond anymore, it generates Postscript
directly. Also, the default text font isn't CM anymore, the
serif font now defaults to New Century Schoolbook.
I'm not an expert on pango (which is used to find the fonts),
so I have no idea how to debug why you get a sans serif font
for your lyrics text (the title is OK, right?).

 Any ideas

anyone? Here is the output of lilypond --verbose morgenlied.ly:

GNU LilyPond 2.6.0

 ...

I couldn't see anything strange there.



Another problem is that I cannot get any dvi output any longer. If I
understood well, this should work wit the command lilypond -b tex -f
dvi morgenlied. Correct? 


See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-06/msg00421.html
and the followup from Han-Wen.

  /Mats


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Re: Wrong text fonts; no dvi

2005-06-30 Thread Jos Smeets
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 13:01:41 +0200
Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  When I compile morgenlied.ly (from examples page on the site) I do
  not get the CM font as in the example on the lilypond site. Look at
  http://www.jossmeets.nl/morgenlied.png to see what I get. When I 
  latex any latex file I do get proper CM fonts. So I suspect it is
  something in the font configuration of my lily installation.
 
 LaTeX isn't used by LilyPond anymore, it generates Postscript
 directly. Also, the default text font isn't CM anymore, the
 serif font now defaults to New Century Schoolbook.
 I'm not an expert on pango (which is used to find the fonts),
 so I have no idea how to debug why you get a sans serif font
 for your lyrics text (the title is OK, right?).
 

When I compare my output with
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.6/input/mutopia/F.Schubert/out-www/morgenlied.png
not only the lyrics text is different. If the example on the site is
made with lily 2.6.0, then I guess that my compilation of that same .ly
file should give an identical result. So also a serif title. Is there a
Pango expert that can explain this?

  Another problem is that I cannot get any dvi output any longer. If I
  understood well, this should work wit the command lilypond -b tex -
  f dvi morgenlied. Correct? 
 
 See
 http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-06/msg00421.html
 and the followup from Han-Wen.

That explains a lot. Anyway, I only tried to view dvi to be able to see
what fonts were used there.

Jos

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Re: [ debian woody ] [fixed] little problem with text fonts in pdf files

2005-04-05 Thread Tanguy Léost
oops, sorry, i didn't reply to te mailing list.
i re-post my reply:
==
Ferenc Wagner wrote:
Yep, you are right, I experience the same problem with
version 2.4.2.  I found a workaround: update
ec-fonts-mftraced to version 1.0.12-1 (ie. download it from
http://lilypond.org/download/fonts/ and invoke dpkg -i on
the package).  This will probably give you the error
/var/lib/dpkg/info/ec-fonts-mftraced.postinst: updmap: command not found
which doesn't seem to cause problems for me (done a VERY
superficial test only) but results in a well-shaped 'u' in
the titles.
 

thanks.
i've tried this but now it looks even worse :(
i think it broke something...
i put an example of the output here:
http://tleost.chez.tiscali.fr/erghen_diado.pdf
do you have any idea how to fix it, or to go back to the previous 
version of ec-fonts-mftraced?
(if it's not possible i will use my debian Sid to get pdf files...
i mostly use Woody but it's not such a big problem)

It moved to nowhere...  afavant.elte.hu has been cracked and
now all the servers are taken down.  Sorry.  If anybody
needs a post-2.4.2 package for Woody, please speak up,
otherwise I probably won't rush fixing this, as compiling
2.6 looks unfeasible on Woody and Sarge is nearing release
anyway (in Debian terms, of course :).
 

sorry to hear about that...
we'll just have to wait for Sarge to be 'stable', i guess.
best regards


i fixed it, i reinstalled the  1.0.5  version , and then 1.0.12 version
and now it's just fine.
Thanks !!
Tanguy

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Re: [ debian woody ] little problem with text fonts in pdf files

2005-04-05 Thread Tanguy Léost
oops, sorry, i didn't reply to te mailing list.
i re-post my reply:
---
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
What LilyPond version do you use?
Hello, thanks for your reply
i use the version 2.4.2
Are you sure it's an ordinary 'u' that fails and not any ú or whatever?
Sounds very strange to me.
If you wish, you could send some small example PDF file as an attachment
to the mailing list (or even better, put it on some web server), 
otherwise
it's hard to say what could be the problem.

/Mats


yes, sure, i should have done this before sending my message to the 
mailing list.
i took an example from the lilypond site and ran lilypond.
the pdf file is here:
http://tleost.chez.tiscali.fr/baerenreiter-sarabande.pdf
look at the title, the 'u' letter is not *that* bad but it looks 
strange, doesn't it ?...

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Re: [ debian woody ] little problem with text fonts in pdf files

2005-04-04 Thread Mats Bengtsson
What LilyPond version do you use?
Are you sure it's an ordinary 'u' that fails and not any ú or whatever?
Sounds very strange to me.
If you wish, you could send some small example PDF file as an attachment
to the mailing list (or even better, put it on some web server), otherwise
it's hard to say what could be the problem.
  /Mats
Tanguy Léost wrote:
Hello,
I run lilypond on a debian woody. I am very pleased with this software 
(big
thanks to all the people involved in this project, it's *great* :-)
It seems i have a problem with the font in the pdf files: everything 
looks fine, except
for the letter 'u' in the titles, which looks weird.
This appears only in the pdf file, the ps file looks very nice.
I tried to use the same source file with lilypond-snapshot on a debian 
sid, and
the result is perfect in the pdf file.
I tried to upgrade my debian woody but the site seems to be down...
(http://afavant.elte.hu/~wferi/debian ... has it moved somewhere else?)

any idea to fix this on the debian stable?

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Re: [ debian woody ] little problem with text fonts in pdf files

2005-04-04 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Tanguy Léost [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It seems i have a problem with the font in the pdf files:
 everything looks fine, except for the letter 'u' in the
 titles, which looks weird.  This appears only in the pdf
 file, the ps file looks very nice.

Yep, you are right, I experience the same problem with
version 2.4.2.  I found a workaround: update
ec-fonts-mftraced to version 1.0.12-1 (ie. download it from
http://lilypond.org/download/fonts/ and invoke dpkg -i on
the package).  This will probably give you the error

/var/lib/dpkg/info/ec-fonts-mftraced.postinst: updmap: command not found

which doesn't seem to cause problems for me (done a VERY
superficial test only) but results in a well-shaped 'u' in
the titles.

 I tried to use the same source file with lilypond-snapshot
 on a debian sid, and the result is perfect in the pdf
 file.

Seems like it's an error in the old versions of the
ec-fonts-mftraced package.

 I tried to upgrade my debian woody but the site seems to
 be down...  (http://afavant.elte.hu/~wferi/debian ... has
 it moved somewhere else?)

It moved to nowhere...  afavant.elte.hu has been cracked and
now all the servers are taken down.  Sorry.  If anybody
needs a post-2.4.2 package for Woody, please speak up,
otherwise I probably won't rush fixing this, as compiling
2.6 looks unfeasible on Woody and Sarge is nearing release
anyway (in Debian terms, of course :).

 any idea to fix this on the debian stable?

Given above.  Hope it works for you.
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[ debian woody ] little problem with text fonts in pdf files

2005-04-03 Thread Tanguy Léost
Hello,
I run lilypond on a debian woody. I am very pleased with this software (big
thanks to all the people involved in this project, it's *great* :-)
It seems i have a problem with the font in the pdf files: everything 
looks fine, except
for the letter 'u' in the titles, which looks weird.
This appears only in the pdf file, the ps file looks very nice.
I tried to use the same source file with lilypond-snapshot on a debian 
sid, and
the result is perfect in the pdf file.
I tried to upgrade my debian woody but the site seems to be down...
(http://afavant.elte.hu/~wferi/debian ... has it moved somewhere else?)

any idea to fix this on the debian stable?
--
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