Re: Lyrics in polyphony with ties in second voice
On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 6:06 PM Carl Sorensen wrote:
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Flaming Hakama by Elaine
> *Date: *Sunday, September 29, 2019 at 9:41 PM
> *To: *Lilypond-User Mailing List
> *Subject: *Lyrics in polyphony with ties in second voice
>
>
>
>
> Hi.
>
> I'm hoping someone can help me figure out how to notate this.
>
> I am creating a lead sheet that has vocal line with lyrics. Some sections
> have just the melody, and other sections have harmonies under the melody.
>
> In general, I have been having success using this pattern for going into
> and out of polyphony, while keeping the lyrics associated with the melody:
>
> melody = \relative c'' {
> c1 << { \voiceOne d } { b1 } >> | \oneVoice e1 |
> }
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I know that this is not what you asked for, because you want the harmony
> stems to go up.
>
>
>
> But this is the way I set it; I think it’s clearer, because it points out
> the fact that the tied notes need to be handled differently from the melody
> notes.
>
>
>
> \version "2.19.80"
>
>
>
> words = \lyricmode {
>
> One, two and three four
>
> }
>
>
>
> melody = \relative c'' {
>
> \time 3/4
>
> g2.^"Use partcombine and NullVoice" | g8 a f2 ~ | 2. | e2. \bar "|."
>
> }
>
>
>
> harmony = \relative c'{
>
> \time 3/4
>
> s2. |
>
> 2. ~ | 2.
>
> }
>
>
>
>
>
> combined = \partcombine \melody \harmony
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> \book {
>
> \header { title = "Use partcombine and NullVoice" }
>
> \score {
>
> <<
>
> \new Staff = "upper" \with {
>
> printPartCombineTexts = ##f
>
> }<<
>
> \new Voice = "lead" {
>
> \combined
>
> }
>
> \new NullVoice = "synch" {
>
> \melody
>
> }
>
> >>
>
>
>
>\new Lyrics \with { alignAboveContext = "staff" } {
>
>\lyricsto "synch" { \words }
>
> }
>
> >>
>
> \layout {
>
> }
>
> }
>
> }
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Carl
>
>
>
Thanks for all the approaches and opinions.
Semantically, I am inclined towards this approach with using a null voice
for the melody, while printing the partcombined voices.
In the end, the only way I was able to get what I want (with the stems
combined) required using and tweaking LVs.
Thanks,
Elaine Alt
415 . 341 .4954 "*Confusion is
highly underrated*"
ela...@flaminghakama.com
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Re: Lyrics in polyphony with ties in second voice
From: Flaming Hakama by Elaine
Date: Sunday, September 29, 2019 at 9:41 PM
To: Lilypond-User Mailing List
Subject: Lyrics in polyphony with ties in second voice
Hi.
I'm hoping someone can help me figure out how to notate this.
I am creating a lead sheet that has vocal line with lyrics. Some sections have
just the melody, and other sections have harmonies under the melody.
In general, I have been having success using this pattern for going into and
out of polyphony, while keeping the lyrics associated with the melody:
melody = \relative c'' {
c1 << { \voiceOne d } { b1 } >> | \oneVoice e1 |
}
I know that this is not what you asked for, because you want the harmony stems
to go up.
But this is the way I set it; I think it’s clearer, because it points out the
fact that the tied notes need to be handled differently from the melody notes.
\version "2.19.80"
words = \lyricmode {
One, two and three four
}
melody = \relative c'' {
\time 3/4
g2.^"Use partcombine and NullVoice" | g8 a f2 ~ | 2. | e2. \bar "|."
}
harmony = \relative c'{
\time 3/4
s2. |
2. ~ | 2.
}
combined = \partcombine \melody \harmony
\book {
\header { title = "Use partcombine and NullVoice" }
\score {
<<
\new Staff = "upper" \with {
printPartCombineTexts = ##f
}<<
\new Voice = "lead" {
\combined
}
\new NullVoice = "synch" {
\melody
}
>>
\new Lyrics \with { alignAboveContext = "staff" } {
\lyricsto "synch" { \words }
}
>>
\layout {
}
}
}
Carl
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Re: Lyrics in polyphony with ties in second voice
I'm not sure why you'd want that, but oh well...
%%% Start
\version "2.19.83"
words = \lyricmode {
One, two and three four
}
melody = \relative c'' {
\time 3/4
g2. |
g8 a f2 ~ |
2. |
e2.
\bar "|."
}
harmony = \relative c' {
\time 3/4
\voiceOne
s2. |
2. _~ |
2. |
s2.
\bar "|."
}
\score {
<<
\new Staff = "upper" {
<<
\new Voice = "lead" {
\melody
}
\new Voice = "harmony" {
\harmony
}
>>
}
\new Lyrics \with { alignAboveContext = "staff" } {
\lyricsto "lead" { \words }
}
>>
\layout {
}
}
%%% End
At some magnifications, the stems don't seem exactly aligned. Maybe
someone else can fix that.
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On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 3:40 PM Flaming Hakama by Elaine <
ela...@flaminghakama.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 7:57 AM Knute Snortum wrote:
>
>> Here's one way to do it:
>>
>> %%% Start
>> \version "2.19.83"
>>
>> words = \lyricmode {
>> One, two and three four
>> }
>>
>> melody = \relative c'' {
>> \time 3/4
>> g2. |
>> g8 a f2 ~ |
>> 2. |
>> e2.
>> \bar "|."
>> }
>>
>> harmony = \relative c' {
>> \time 3/4
>> \voiceTwo
>> s2. |
>> 2. ~ |
>> 2. |
>> s2.
>> \bar "|."
>> }
>>
>> \score {
>> <<
>> \new Staff = "upper" {
>> <<
>> \new Voice = "lead" {
>> \melody
>> }
>> \new Voice = "harmony" {
>> \harmony
>> }
>> >>
>> }
>> \new Lyrics \with { alignAboveContext = "staff" } {
>> \lyricsto "lead" { \words }
>> }
>> >>
>> \layout {
>> }
>> }
>> %%% End
>>
>> ---
>> Knute Snortum
>> (via Gmail)
>>
>>
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> This approach puts the melody and harmony voices into different columns,
> with different stems.
> Is there any way to get them to become realigned, and share stems?
>
>
> Elaine Alt
> 415 . 341 .4954 "*Confusion is
> highly underrated*"
> ela...@flaminghakama.com
> Producer ~ Composer ~ Instrumentalist ~ Educator
>
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Re: Lyrics in polyphony with ties in second voice
On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 7:57 AM Knute Snortum wrote:
> Here's one way to do it:
>
> %%% Start
> \version "2.19.83"
>
> words = \lyricmode {
> One, two and three four
> }
>
> melody = \relative c'' {
> \time 3/4
> g2. |
> g8 a f2 ~ |
> 2. |
> e2.
> \bar "|."
> }
>
> harmony = \relative c' {
> \time 3/4
> \voiceTwo
> s2. |
> 2. ~ |
> 2. |
> s2.
> \bar "|."
> }
>
> \score {
> <<
> \new Staff = "upper" {
> <<
> \new Voice = "lead" {
> \melody
> }
> \new Voice = "harmony" {
> \harmony
> }
> >>
> }
> \new Lyrics \with { alignAboveContext = "staff" } {
> \lyricsto "lead" { \words }
> }
> >>
> \layout {
> }
> }
> %%% End
>
> ---
> Knute Snortum
> (via Gmail)
>
>
Thanks for the help.
This approach puts the melody and harmony voices into different columns,
with different stems.
Is there any way to get them to become realigned, and share stems?
Elaine Alt
415 . 341 .4954 "*Confusion is
highly underrated*"
ela...@flaminghakama.com
Producer ~ Composer ~ Instrumentalist ~ Educator
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Re: Lyrics in polyphony with ties in second voice
Here's one way to do it:
%%% Start
\version "2.19.83"
words = \lyricmode {
One, two and three four
}
melody = \relative c'' {
\time 3/4
g2. |
g8 a f2 ~ |
2. |
e2.
\bar "|."
}
harmony = \relative c' {
\time 3/4
\voiceTwo
s2. |
2. ~ |
2. |
s2.
\bar "|."
}
\score {
<<
\new Staff = "upper" {
<<
\new Voice = "lead" {
\melody
}
\new Voice = "harmony" {
\harmony
}
>>
}
\new Lyrics \with { alignAboveContext = "staff" } {
\lyricsto "lead" { \words }
}
>>
\layout {
}
}
%%% End
---
Knute Snortum
(via Gmail)
On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 8:42 PM Flaming Hakama by Elaine <
ela...@flaminghakama.com> wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> I'm hoping someone can help me figure out how to notate this.
>
> I am creating a lead sheet that has vocal line with lyrics. Some sections
> have just the melody, and other sections have harmonies under the melody.
>
> In general, I have been having success using this pattern for going into
> and out of polyphony, while keeping the lyrics associated with the melody:
>
> melody = \relative c'' {
> c1 << { \voiceOne d } { b1 } >> | \oneVoice e1 |
> }
>
>
> However, there is one phrase where I can't figure out how to make it work,
> which is when the second voice contains ties.
>
> What I'm after is like the second score--except there should be ties
> between the chords in the second voice in bars 2-3.
> Alternately, like the music in example 6, except with lyrics in the 2nd &
> 3rd bars.
>
>
>
> \version "2.19.80"
>
> words = \lyricmode {
> One, two and three four
> }
>
> melody = \relative c'' {
> \time 3/4
> g2.^"1. Just melody - missing harmony" | g8 a f2 ~ | 2. | e2. \bar "|."
> }
>
> melodyHarmonizedNoTies = \relative c'' {
> \time 3/4
> g2.^"2. Harmonized, no ties: missing ties in voice 2"
> <<
> \relative c'' { \voiceOne g8 a f2 ~ | 2. }
> \relative c' { 2. | 2. }
> >> | \oneVoice
> e2.
> \bar "|."
> }
>
>
> melodyHarmonizedWithTies = \relative c'' {
> \time 3/4
> g2.^"3. Harmonized with ties: lyrics do not follow voice 1, and ties
> are missing in voice 2"
> <<
> \relative c'' { \voiceOne g8 a f2 ~ | 2. }
> \relative c' { 2. ~ | 2. }
> >> | \oneVoice
> e2.
> \bar "|."
> }
>
> melodyHarmonizedLV = \relative c'' {
> \time 3/4
> g2.^"4. Harmonized, LV in voice 2: Extra LV in voice 1"
> <<
> \relative c'' { \voiceOne g8 a f2 ~ | 2. }
> \relative c' { 2. \laissezVibrer | 2. }
> >> | \oneVoice
> e2.
> \bar "|."
> }
>
>
> melodyHarmonizedSlashNoTies = \relative c'' {
> \time 3/4
> g2.^"5. Slash, no ties: missing lyrics in voice 1 and missing ties in
> voice 2"
> <<
> \relative c'' { \voiceOne g8 a f2 ~ | 2. } \\
> \relative c' { 2. | 2. }
> >> | \oneVoice
> e2.
> \bar "|."
> }
>
>
> melodyHarmonizedSlashWithTies = \relative c'' {
> \time 3/4
> g2.^"6. Slash with ties: lyrics do not follow voice 1"
> <<
> \relative c'' { \voiceOne g8 a f2 ~ | 2. } \\
> \relative c' { 2. ~ | 2. }
> >> | \oneVoice
> e2.
> \bar "|."
> }
>
> melodyHarmonizedSlashLV = \relative c'' {
> \time 3/4
> g2.^"7. Slash, LV in voice 2: lyrics do not follow voice 1"
> <<
> \relative c'' { \voiceOne g8 a f2 ~ | 2. } \\
> \relative c' { 2. \laissezVibrer | 2. }
> >> | \oneVoice
> e2.
> \bar "|."
> }
>
>
>
> \book {
> \header { title = "MWE: lyrics in voice 1 with tied notes in voice 2"
> }
> \score {
> <<
> \new Staff = "upper" {
> \new Voice = "lead" {
> \melody
> }
> }
> \new Lyrics \with { alignAboveContext = "staff" } {
> \lyricsto "lead" { \words }
> }
> >>
> \layout {
> }
> }
>
> \score {
> <<
> \new Staff = "upper" {
> \new Voice = "lead" {
> \melodyHarmonizedNoTies
> }
> }
> \new Lyrics \with { alignAboveContext = "staff" } {
> \lyricsto "lead" { \words }
> }
> >>
> \layout {
> }
> }
>
> \score {
> <<
> \new Staff = "upper" {
> \new Voice = "lead" {
> \melodyHarmonizedWithTies
> }
> }
> \new Lyrics \with { alignAboveContext = "staff" } {
> \lyricsto "lead" { \words }
> }
> >>
> \layout {
> }
> }
>
>
> \score {
> <<
> \new Staff = "upper" {
> \new Voice = "lead" {
> \melodyHarmonizedLV
> }
> }
> \new Lyrics \with { alignAboveContext = "staff" } {
> \lyricsto "lead" { \words }
>
Lyrics in polyphony with ties in second voice
Hi.
I'm hoping someone can help me figure out how to notate this.
I am creating a lead sheet that has vocal line with lyrics. Some sections
have just the melody, and other sections have harmonies under the melody.
In general, I have been having success using this pattern for going into
and out of polyphony, while keeping the lyrics associated with the melody:
melody = \relative c'' {
c1 << { \voiceOne d } { b1 } >> | \oneVoice e1 |
}
However, there is one phrase where I can't figure out how to make it work,
which is when the second voice contains ties.
What I'm after is like the second score--except there should be ties
between the chords in the second voice in bars 2-3.
Alternately, like the music in example 6, except with lyrics in the 2nd &
3rd bars.
\version "2.19.80"
words = \lyricmode {
One, two and three four
}
melody = \relative c'' {
\time 3/4
g2.^"1. Just melody - missing harmony" | g8 a f2 ~ | 2. | e2. \bar "|."
}
melodyHarmonizedNoTies = \relative c'' {
\time 3/4
g2.^"2. Harmonized, no ties: missing ties in voice 2"
<<
\relative c'' { \voiceOne g8 a f2 ~ | 2. }
\relative c' { 2. | 2. }
>> | \oneVoice
e2.
\bar "|."
}
melodyHarmonizedWithTies = \relative c'' {
\time 3/4
g2.^"3. Harmonized with ties: lyrics do not follow voice 1, and ties
are missing in voice 2"
<<
\relative c'' { \voiceOne g8 a f2 ~ | 2. }
\relative c' { 2. ~ | 2. }
>> | \oneVoice
e2.
\bar "|."
}
melodyHarmonizedLV = \relative c'' {
\time 3/4
g2.^"4. Harmonized, LV in voice 2: Extra LV in voice 1"
<<
\relative c'' { \voiceOne g8 a f2 ~ | 2. }
\relative c' { 2. \laissezVibrer | 2. }
>> | \oneVoice
e2.
\bar "|."
}
melodyHarmonizedSlashNoTies = \relative c'' {
\time 3/4
g2.^"5. Slash, no ties: missing lyrics in voice 1 and missing ties in
voice 2"
<<
\relative c'' { \voiceOne g8 a f2 ~ | 2. } \\
\relative c' { 2. | 2. }
>> | \oneVoice
e2.
\bar "|."
}
melodyHarmonizedSlashWithTies = \relative c'' {
\time 3/4
g2.^"6. Slash with ties: lyrics do not follow voice 1"
<<
\relative c'' { \voiceOne g8 a f2 ~ | 2. } \\
\relative c' { 2. ~ | 2. }
>> | \oneVoice
e2.
\bar "|."
}
melodyHarmonizedSlashLV = \relative c'' {
\time 3/4
g2.^"7. Slash, LV in voice 2: lyrics do not follow voice 1"
<<
\relative c'' { \voiceOne g8 a f2 ~ | 2. } \\
\relative c' { 2. \laissezVibrer | 2. }
>> | \oneVoice
e2.
\bar "|."
}
\book {
\header { title = "MWE: lyrics in voice 1 with tied notes in voice 2" }
\score {
<<
\new Staff = "upper" {
\new Voice = "lead" {
\melody
}
}
\new Lyrics \with { alignAboveContext = "staff" } {
\lyricsto "lead" { \words }
}
>>
\layout {
}
}
\score {
<<
\new Staff = "upper" {
\new Voice = "lead" {
\melodyHarmonizedNoTies
}
}
\new Lyrics \with { alignAboveContext = "staff" } {
\lyricsto "lead" { \words }
}
>>
\layout {
}
}
\score {
<<
\new Staff = "upper" {
\new Voice = "lead" {
\melodyHarmonizedWithTies
}
}
\new Lyrics \with { alignAboveContext = "staff" } {
\lyricsto "lead" { \words }
}
>>
\layout {
}
}
\score {
<<
\new Staff = "upper" {
\new Voice = "lead" {
\melodyHarmonizedLV
}
}
\new Lyrics \with { alignAboveContext = "staff" } {
\lyricsto "lead" { \words }
}
>>
\layout {
}
}
\score {
<<
\new Staff = "upper" {
\new Voice = "lead" {
\melodyHarmonizedSlashNoTies
}
}
\new Lyrics \with { alignAboveContext = "staff" } {
\lyricsto "lead" { \words }
}
>>
\layout {
}
}
\score {
<<
\new Staff = "upper" {
\new Voice = "lead" {
\melodyHarmonizedSlashWithTies
}
}
\new Lyrics \with { alignAboveContext = "staff" } {
\lyricsto "lead" { \words }
}
>>
\layout {
}
}
\score {
<<
\new Staff = "upper" {
\new Voice = "lead" {
\melodyHarmonizedSlashLV
}
}
\new Lyrics \with { alignAboveContext = "staff" } {
\lyricsto "lead" { \words }
Lyrics and polyphony
\version 2.12.2
{
c' a4 e' c' g' e' b' g' { b'1 } \\ { g'4( f' e'2) }
}
\addlyrics {
Ex -- cel -- lent Thy name! % The last word does not appear
}
Hello all!
I have a question concerning lyrics and polyphony. I have looked through the
Snippet Repository, but came up with nothing.
The music I am typesetting is four-part harmony, and for the most part each part
has the same note durations, and entering them as chords makes sense. However,
in a few places they differ, and while I have figured out how to make the notes
look correctly within angle brackets (see above) the lyrics will not stick
to this part of the music (I guess because I made a new context). Is there a way
to have the lyrics work with this setup? Or perhaps is there an altogether
different way I should go about this?
Thanks!
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Re: Lyrics and polyphony
Hello,
On 4 January 2012 18:28, Benjamin Bruce e-m...@benjaminbruce.com wrote:
\version 2.12.2
{
c' a4 e' c' g' e' b' g' { b'1 } \\ { g'4( f' e'2) }
}
\addlyrics {
Ex -- cel -- lent Thy name! % The last word does not appear
}
Hello all!
I have a question concerning lyrics and polyphony. I have looked through the
Snippet Repository, but came up with nothing.
The music I am typesetting is four-part harmony, and for the most part each
part
has the same note durations, and entering them as chords makes sense. However,
in a few places they differ, and while I have figured out how to make the
notes
look correctly within angle brackets (see above) the lyrics will not
stick
to this part of the music (I guess because I made a new context). Is there a
way
to have the lyrics work with this setup? Or perhaps is there an altogether
different way I should go about this?
I don't know much about lyrics but I think this might be the place in the doc
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/techniques-specific-to-lyrics#divisi-lyrics
regards
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Re: Lyrics and polyphony
On 5/01/2012, at 7:28 am, Benjamin Bruce wrote:
\version 2.12.2
{
c' a4 e' c' g' e' b' g' { b'1 } \\ { g'4( f' e'2) }
}
\addlyrics {
Ex -- cel -- lent Thy name! % The last word does not appear
}
The problem is that the double backslash automagically creates _two_ new
voices; you only want one, with the other being a continuation of the original
voice. The solution is to create the new voice explicitly:
{
c' a4 e' c' g' e' b' g' {\voiceOne b'1 } \new Voice {
\voiceTwo g'4( f' e'2) }
}
\addlyrics {
Ex -- cel -- lent Thy name! % The last word does now appear
}
(The \voiceOne and \voiceTwo don't affect the lyrics, only the note stems.)
The music I am typesetting is four-part harmony
In that case, personally, I'd write it as four parts rather than as chords.
Best wishes,
Matthew
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Re: Lyrics and polyphony
On 1/4/12 11:28 AM, Benjamin Bruce e-m...@benjaminbruce.com wrote:
\version 2.12.2
{
c' a4 e' c' g' e' b' g' { b'1 } \\ { g'4( f' e'2) }
}
\addlyrics {
Ex -- cel -- lent Thy name! % The last word does not appear
}
Hello all!
I have a question concerning lyrics and polyphony. I have looked through
the
Snippet Repository, but came up with nothing.
The music I am typesetting is four-part harmony, and for the most part
each part
has the same note durations, and entering them as chords makes sense.
However,
in a few places they differ, and while I have figured out how to make the
notes
look correctly within angle brackets (see above) the lyrics will
not stick
to this part of the music (I guess because I made a new context). Is
there a way
to have the lyrics work with this setup? Or perhaps is there an altogether
different way I should go about this?
Please see the Notation Reference, section 1.5.2. In particular, look at
Temporary polyphonic passages.
And may I invite you to consider upgrading to 2.14? It's better than 2.12
in a number of ways.
HTH,
Carl
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Re: Lyrics and polyphony
On 4 January 2012 23:32, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote:
Please see the Notation Reference, section 1.5.2. In particular, look at
Temporary polyphonic passages.
This problem pops up often. I remember having replied to dozens of e-mails
—both on the French users mailing list and on lilypond-user— from
confused users about this. This is indeed explained in the notation
reference that
[The {...} \\ {...} construct] behaves differently to the
similar construct without the double backslashes: all the expressions
within this construct are assigned to new Voice contexts.
but could it be added that this implies the (dynamic) spanners, lyrics
associated to voice, etc. cannot be used from outside to inside the
{...} \\ {...} construct (and vice versa)?
And would it be possible to put a warning box or so around this?
Maybe we could add also a similar warning in the learning manual,
LM 3.2.1 I’m hearing Voices.
What do you think? James?
Of course the best would be to solve issue #1316 …
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1316
Cheers,
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Re: Lyrics and polyphony
Hello,
On 4 January 2012 22:50, Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com wrote:
On 4 January 2012 23:32, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote:
Please see the Notation Reference, section 1.5.2. In particular, look at
Temporary polyphonic passages.
This problem pops up often. I remember having replied to dozens of e-mails
—both on the French users mailing list and on lilypond-user— from
confused users about this. This is indeed explained in the notation
reference that
[The {...} \\ {...} construct] behaves differently to the
similar construct without the double backslashes: all the expressions
within this construct are assigned to new Voice contexts.
but could it be added that this implies the (dynamic) spanners, lyrics
associated to voice, etc. cannot be used from outside to inside the
{...} \\ {...} construct (and vice versa)?
And would it be possible to put a warning box or so around this?
Maybe we could add also a similar warning in the learning manual,
LM 3.2.1 I’m hearing Voices.
What do you think? James?
For now I've created
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2179
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Re: lyrics and polyphony
Charles Gran sonance at campdeadly.com writes:
[I tried resarching this topic on the list archive but most related
topics are too extensive for me to sort out.]
In a choral piece, I have a part that tempoarily divides into (single-
line) polyphony. How do I handle lyrics at this point?
Don't use the ... \\ ... construct; it creates two new voices,
neither of which your lyrics will follow. You can, however, do this:
tenornotes = \relative c' { \clef G_8 r1 |
r4
{ \voiceOne c4^\markup { div. } c \oneVoice }
\new Voice { \voiceTwo c8 b a4 }
r |
r2^\markup { unis. } a2\fermata |
a4( g fis8 f) e( b') | a1 | }
That is, you introduce a parallel section (with no \\), keep
the original voice in one branch, and create a new voice for
the other branch.
Good luck,
Michael
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lyrics and polyphony
[I tried resarching this topic on the list archive but most related
topics are too extensive for me to sort out.]
In a choral piece, I have a part that tempoarily divides into (single-
line) polyphony. How do I handle lyrics at this point?
Charles
The format of the score is outlined below:
\version 2.10.33
\header {...}
}
global = {
\key a \minor
\time 4/4
}
sopranonotes = \relative c' {...}
sopranowords = \lyricmode {...}
altonotes = \relative c' {...}
altowords = \lyricmode {...}
tenornotes = \relative c' {...}
tenorwords = \lyricmode {...}
bassnotes = \relative c' {...}
basswords = \lyricmode {...}
\score{
\context ChoirStaff
\context Staff = soprano
\context Voice = sop { \global \sopranonotes }
\lyricsto sop \new Lyrics \sopranowords
\context Staff = alto
\context Voice = alt { \global \altonotes }
\lyricsto alt \new Lyrics \altowords
\context Staff = tenor
\context Voice = ten { \global \tenornotes }
\lyricsto ten \new Lyrics \tenorwords
\context Staff = bass
\context Voice = bas { \global \bassnotes }
\lyricsto bas \new Lyrics \basswords
\layout {
\context {
% a little smaller so lyrics can be closer to the staff.
\Staff
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-3 . 3)
}
}
}
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Re: lyrics and polyphony
This example attached:
\version 2.10.33
\header { }
}
global = {
\key a \minor
\time 4/4
}
sopranonotes = \relative c' { r1 r r r r }
sopranowords = \lyricmode { }
altonotes = \relative c' { r1 r r r r}
altowords = \lyricmode { }
tenornotes = \relative c' { \clef G_8 r1 | r4 { c4^\markup {
div. } c } \\ { c8 b a4 } r | r2^\markup { unis. } a2\fermata |
a4( g fis8 f) e( b') | a1 | }
tenorwords = \lyricmode { Not yet, not yet, not __ yet! }
bassnotes = \relative c' { \clef bass r1 r r r r }
basswords = \lyricmode { }
\score{
\context ChoirStaff
\context Staff = soprano
\context Voice = sop { \global \sopranonotes }
\lyricsto sop \new Lyrics \sopranowords
\context Staff = alto
\context Voice = alt { \global \altonotes }
\lyricsto alt \new Lyrics \altowords
\context Staff = tenor
\context Voice = ten { \global \tenornotes }
\lyricsto ten \new Lyrics \tenorwords
\context Staff = bass
\context Voice = bas { \global \bassnotes }
\lyricsto bas \new Lyrics \basswords
\layout {
\context {
% a little smaller so lyrics can be closer to the staff.
\Staff
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-3 . 3)
}
}
}
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Re: Tip: lyrics with polyphony / stem directions (without specifically instantiated voices)
Looking back at the section on Explicitly instantiating voices, I now
notice that
more or less the same idea is already used, but with different shapes of
the note
heads instead of using different colors. The example also shows the use of
explicit \voiceOne, \voiceTwo and \oneVoice commands.
Mark, what do you say? Is the current example in the manual too complex so
that the main points are not clear enough? Should we replace that example
by Kieren's?
(For the record, there are plenty of answers to similar questions in the
mailing list
archives, that show exactly the same construct. I'm surprised that you
didn't find
them.)
/Mats
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Excellent idea! I will add something like this to the manual, extended
with
yet another example that shows how to manually specify \voiceOne and
so on.
/Mats
Kieren MacMillan wrote:
Hi Mark,
It looks like there is a solution to the problem
Glad it worked!
perhaps people in the past just didn't understand the questions of
the people asking properly . . .
Perhaps... that's why I kept trying to clarify what question you were
really asking, so that I could answer the question you were really
asking! =)
Graham: may I suggest one thing that might help the docs? In 6.3
(especially .4, Explicitly instantiating voices), maybe if the notes
in each Voice context were independently (i.e., differently)
coloured, the examples (and thus the constructs and internal Lilypond
mechanisms) would be even more clear immediately?
For an example, see the attached snippet.
Best regards,
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\version 2.11.30
\markup \wordwrap { At first it may be difficult to understand why
the three C notes are not tied in the following example: }
\score
{
\new Staff \relative c''
{
c ~ { c ~ } \\ { a } c }
}
\markup \wordwrap { By colouring the main Voice red, the problem
becomes clear: }
\score
{
\new Staff \relative c''
{
\override Voice.NoteHead #'color = #red
c ~ { c ~ } \\ { a } c
}
}
\markup \wordwrap
{
Within the \typewriter { \\\ } polyphony section, two
completely new Voice contexts, independent from the main Voice, have
been constructed automatically by Lilypond. There are several ways to
compensate for this instantiation, but the easiest is simply to avoid
the \typewriter { \\\ } construct entirely — within the
construct, any notes before an explicit \typewriter { \\new Voice }
command will belong to the main Voice context (i.e., the one
“outside” the polyphony):
}
\score
{
\new Staff \relative c''
{
\override Voice.NoteHead #'color = #red
c ~ { c ~ } \new Voice { a } c
}
}
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color in the manual (was: Tip: lyrics with polyphony / stem directions (without specifically instantiated voices))
I'm not overly enthusiastic about adding color to the manual: I'm not
certain how it will look in a printed pdf (many people print the docs)
or in the info files. We obviously need to use color in the doc section
about color, and the red staff-lines in Ancient notation will show up as
black anyway in print, but I'm worried about adding color to the main
manual.
Would it be possible to find noteheads that are more easily
distinguishable? Or perhaps making the example bigger?
...
Actually, I think the best solution is to move the basic explanation
about polyphony out of the manual and into the tutorial. I have no
problem with using bigger staff sizes in the tutorial, and I have less
concerns about using color in there. Also, that's the place for the
basic explanations.
Anybody feel like writing a wordy explanation about polyphony? It could
either replace/add to 2.3.4, or we could add a new subsection after
2.3.5 for this explanation. Feel free to plunder material from 6.3.3.
(if you do, please let me know before you start writing)
I don't mind doing this myself; I'm just asking in case Kieren is
excited about this topic. It would be a nice way to start working on
the docs. :)
Cheers,
- Graham
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Excellent idea! I will add something like this to the manual, extended
with
yet another example that shows how to manually specify \voiceOne and
so on.
/Mats
Kieren MacMillan wrote:
Hi Mark,
It looks like there is a solution to the problem
Glad it worked!
perhaps people in the past just didn't understand the questions of
the people asking properly . . .
Perhaps... that's why I kept trying to clarify what question you were
really asking, so that I could answer the question you were really
asking! =)
Graham: may I suggest one thing that might help the docs? In 6.3
(especially .4, Explicitly instantiating voices), maybe if the notes
in each Voice context were independently (i.e., differently)
coloured, the examples (and thus the constructs and internal Lilypond
mechanisms) would be even more clear immediately?
For an example, see the attached snippet.
Best regards,
Kieren.
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\version 2.11.30
\markup \wordwrap { At first it may be difficult to understand why
the three C notes are not tied in the following example: }
\score
{
\new Staff \relative c''
{
c ~ { c ~ } \\ { a } c }
}
\markup \wordwrap { By colouring the main Voice red, the problem
becomes clear: }
\score
{
\new Staff \relative c''
{
\override Voice.NoteHead #'color = #red
c ~ { c ~ } \\ { a } c
}
}
\markup \wordwrap
{
Within the \typewriter { \\\ } polyphony section, two
completely new Voice contexts, independent from the main Voice, have
been constructed automatically by Lilypond. There are several ways to
compensate for this instantiation, but the easiest is simply to avoid
the \typewriter { \\\ } construct entirely — within the
construct, any notes before an explicit \typewriter { \\new Voice }
command will belong to the main Voice context (i.e., the one
“outside” the polyphony):
}
\score
{
\new Staff \relative c''
{
\override Voice.NoteHead #'color = #red
c ~ { c ~ } \new Voice { a } c
}
}
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Re: color in the manual (was: Tip: lyrics with polyphony / stem directions (without specifically instantiated voices))
Hi Graham, Anybody feel like writing a wordy explanation about polyphony? I think I can handle that. =) Best, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Tip: lyrics with polyphony / stem directions (without specifically instantiated voices)
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
. . .
Mark, what do you say? Is the current example in the manual too complex so
that the main points are not clear enough? Should we replace that example
by Kieren's?
I didn't mean to imply anything about the documentation earlier.
But, since you asked . . .
Perhaps Kieren's example would be helpful instead. I'm not exactly sure. I'm
colorblind, though (slightly), so I don't know how much adding the color would
help me specifically. I think hints like color, size, and shape only help some
people, and only in some circumstances. For me, in this case, I think a
detailed explanation would be better.
It's not 'usually' the complexity of the documentation that causes problems for
me. It's normally just matters of syntax, what relates to what, and what means
what that I need clarification on (i.e. little specific details of how things
are implemented). I like details and specifics a lot (so a detailed
explanation isn't something I consider complicated, though I'm sure that's not
what you meant). A nested explanation might be something I'd consider
complicated.
For instance, the documentation says this:
. . .
\upper \\ \lower
is equivalent to
\new Voice = 1 { \voiceOne \upper}
\new Voice = 2 { \voiceTwo \lower}
I think the \upper and \lower thing in the documentation is syntactically
confusing, without specifically saying they represent the notes there, seeing
as \upper and \lower are also used in the piano staff context, as people will
actually try to put \upper and \lower in their code (without instantiating
them).
I would recommend either replacing these with notes directly, or showing their instantiation above
the example (and explaining the significance of the voice names 1 and 2;
plus, a mention of when/why it is good to leave them out would be nice—maybe it's already mentioned
somewhere else, and if so, perhaps I might recommend pointing us there from here).
I might recommend adding an example like this somewhere below that:
{\voiceOne (upper notes here)} \new Voice {\voiceTwo (lower notes here)}
\oneVoice
is the preferred way over
{(upper notes here)} \\ {(lower notes here)}
for polyphonic chords used with lyrics, since the \\ method automatically gives the names 1 and
2 to the voices, which are not the names of the voice the lyrics are following (i.e.
sopranos, etc.)
Where to look for what, in the documentation generally, is also an issue at
times. I might recommend giving us some tips on how to find things (generally
speaking), and how to glean information, as it seems to be easier for you.
All in all, though, I didn't mean to bring up the documentation, myself. It
normally works well for me in connection with the forums—lately, at least. I
understand if you don't want to put this in the documentation (that's fine with
me)—after all, it is on the forums now in a way people who think like me could
find it.
(For the record, there are plenty of answers to similar questions in the
mailing list
archives, that show exactly the same construct. I'm surprised that you
didn't find them.)
I only found such as the links I included in one of the earlier posts of this
thread (but I only made a few different search criteria: i.e. polyphony lyrics,
and . . . I forgot what else). I didn't bother to look further since one of
the threads I saw made it look like a known issue that we just had to deal with
(and that's another reason I didn't look at the manual further; I had no reason
to believe I could find anything more on the subject there, because of what I
saw in the threads).
It's possible that I saw the answers/questions you mentioned, but thought they
were talking about something else, or something irrelevant. I mean, it could
have been a matter of semantics. People are easy to misunderstand (especially
when they talk about familiar things with unfamiliar terminology).
As long as I know what I want, though, the clarity of the documentation isn't a
'huge' deal for me, seeing as I don't view documentation in the same light as a
tutorial (I mean, it seems more for advanced reference than a teaching aid for
new and semi-intermediate users). I'm at a point where things are becoming
more clear and using the documentation for reference isn't that bad
(understanding how voices works helps a lot for this; I think this is probably
one of the most important sections to make clear, and add detail). I mean, the
documentation seems to require a certain amount of knowledge about LilyPond in
order to learn (some sections more than others) as sometimes answers are given
using principles the learner may not have learned yet.
Documentation isn't something I generally expect to read through in a linear
fashion (usually I use it more on a want/need-to-know basis), while a tutorial
or a textbook is. Is one supposed to read the documentation in a linear
fashion? I don't know, personally, but the knowledge would
Re: Tip: lyrics with polyphony / stem directions (without specifically instantiated voices)
Mark Dewey wrote: I think the \upper and \lower thing in the documentation is syntactically confusing, without specifically saying they represent the notes there, I would recommend either replacing these with notes directly, or showing their instantiation above the example (and explaining the significance of the voice names 1 and 2; plus, a mention of when/why it is good to leave them out would be nice—maybe it's already mentioned somewhere else, and if so, perhaps I might recommend pointing us there from here). Let me preface my remarks by stating that the tutorial has been completely rewritten in 2.11; if you haven't seen the 2.11 docs, you'll have missed this. See 2.5.4 Organizing pieces with identifiers. We can't explain all the material in the tutorial throughout the rest of the manual; chapter 3 and onwards (especially chapter 6 and up!) assumes that you are familiar with the material in chapter 2. Where to look for what, in the documentation generally, is also an issue at times. I might recommend giving us some tips on how to find things (generally speaking), and how to glean information, as it seems to be easier for you. 1.6 is a bit out of date, but it's still a good start. I'll update that later tonight. 2.5.6 How to read the manual doesn't discuss where to find things, although such material could be added there. I'm not certain it's worth adding stuff to 2.5.6, though. If people don't notice 1.6, then... All in all, though, I didn't mean to bring up the documentation, myself. It normally works well for me in connection with the forums—lately, at least. I understand if you don't want to put this in the documentation (that's fine with me)—after all, it is on the forums now in a way people who think like me could find it. People don't search the mailist archives. In addition, if everybody has to ask stuff here, we have to explain everything all the time. That's the reason I started working on the docs: I was answering the same questions again and again. I decided that I would never answer a question directly (with anything other than a polite RTFM); instead, I would spend that time improving the docs so that the next person didn't have to ask. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Tip: lyrics with polyphony / stem directions (without specifically instantiated voices)
I've discovered a number of threads on this topic (how lyrics don't work when you use such
as {a' b'} \\ { c' d'}. I didn't seem to have trouble with lyrics in my
early days of trying this . . . (but, maybe then I was just focusing on the music, before
putting the lyrics in; whatever the case, I ended up not using them for another reason).
Anyway, I've come across a situation where I needed to have this (i.e. stem directions
pointing different ways on the same note, only a few times). So . . . I looked through the
LilyPond discussion and found various things, none of which in and of themselves provided a
satisfactory solution (although they helped me come up with what follows).
Anyway, I found a way that works better for me (although it requires adjusting
if you need to change the system width). I did, however, discover a solution.
Basically, I just used underscores to make one word look like two, and I
re-aligned the lyrics to make them shift over in the right direction. This
makes it look fine (although it would be nice if they made some way to have
differing stem directions in the same chord without having multiple voices, on
a chord by chord basis, rather than all of them that follow).
So, here's the code:
In the lyrics area:
\once \override Score . LyricText #'self-alignment-X = #-1
Iam \skip 1
(the skip is for the note without lyrics; 'am' overlaps onto it so it looks
like it belongs there; the number of underscores may vary significantly, and
also the integer assigned with the override up there, depending on the
direction it needs to shift: i.e. -1, 1, 0, etc.)
Here's the note code I used for the spot to put the lyrics over:
{f'4.} \\ {f'4.}
It takes a little tweaking, but it works better and faster than anything else
I've tried (it's not always practical to have multiple voices, especially when
your number of staffs changes in the middle of the song, at least in certain
ways, and you only want one midi for the song). Anyway, this is just a tip for
those needing a solution to this, since there are many I've seen asking the
question.
I don't suppose they're planning to make a more standard solution, yet, are
they? I would personally suggest just adding a tweak to chords (rather than
messings with voices) to add the ability to make the stems go in opposing
directions (it's not the durations that matter so much). Something simple like
this:
\stemUp f' \stemDown f'4
or
\stemUp c'' a' \stemDown f' (This would signify that both c'' and a' were up,
on the same stem, and only f' was down. Making it so multiple up stems appeared
would be bad, I think, in a chord context like this. I don't think the middle notes
should be able to go against both the top and the bottom, in this context.)
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Re: Tip: lyrics with polyphony / stem directions (without specifically instantiated voices)
Hi Mark:
I've discovered a number of threads on this topic (how lyrics don't
work when you use such as {a' b'} \\ { c' d'}
I'm not sure what you mean by lyrics don't work -- have you tried
{ a' b' } \new Voice { c' d' }
instead of
{ a' b' } \\ { c' d' }
That works perfectly for me in every situation I've run into.
In other words, in what circumstance would you *not* want to
specifically instantiate the extra Voice context(s)?
If this doesn't solve the problem you're talking about, please post a
minimal code example, so we (I) can see what you're talking about.
Hope this helps,
Kieren.
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Re: Tip: lyrics with polyphony / stem directions (without specifically instantiated voices)
Hi Mark,
By saying the lyrics don't work, I mean the lyrics skip the
'polyphonic' notes.
Sorry, I must be dense here... =\
Please tell me what behaviour you find unexpected in the attached
snippet (note that the lyrics clearly DO NOT skip the 'polyphonic
notes') -- that way, I'll know exactly what you're talking about, and
might be able to be of more help.
Thanks,
Kieren.
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\version 2.11.30
theMusic = \relative c'
{
e4 d c2 |
e4 d c2 |
{
\voiceOne
g'4 f8. f16 e2 |
g4 f8. f16 e2
}
\new Voice
{
\voiceTwo
e4 d c2 |
e4 d c2
}
\oneVoice
}
theWords = \lyricmode
{
Three blind mice, three blind mice,
See how they run, see how they run.
}
\score
{
\new Voice = singer \theMusic
\new Lyrics \lyricsto singer \theWords
}
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Re: Tip: lyrics with polyphony / stem directions (without specifically instantiated voices)
Kieren MacMillan wrote:
. . .
Please tell me what behaviour you find unexpected in the attached
snippet (note that the lyrics clearly DO NOT skip the 'polyphonic
notes') -- that way, I'll know exactly what you're talking about, and
might be able to be of more help.
. . .
Your example looks perfectly fine, and I see no unexpected results.
At first I thought this would cause problems when used inside of another
context, but, you do something new to me I haven't seen suggested with this
before (\oneVoice, and no \new Voice before the first voice). I tried it out
in my situation, and it works.
It looks like there is a solution to the problem, and perhaps people in the
past just didn't understand the questions of the people asking properly . . .
Anyway, here is the code that works, in the fashion I want it to work (this
example isn't one of a situation that would require it, as that would be too
complex, but it is one that shows it can work how I want it to):
\version 2.10.29
sopWords = \lyricmode
{
\set stanza = 1.
TestOne testTwo
}
\score
{
\new Staff
\new Voice = sopranos
{
\voiceOne
\time 4/4
\key c \major
a'4
{\voiceOne a'}
\new Voice
{\voiceTwo a'}
\oneVoice
\bar |.
}
\new Lyrics = sopranos { s1 }
\context Lyrics = sopranos \lyricsto sopranos \sopWords
}
Thank you for your help! This will help out with quite a lot of other issues, actually, it
seems. I suspect the key was using \oneVoice to set it back, since the reason it didn't
show up using {} \\ {} was that they produced extra voices or something
like that which couldn't be referenced properly. What I tried before, at your first
suggestion, was doing what I did on the outer framework in this code (i.e. without
\oneVoice).
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Re: Tip: lyrics with polyphony / stem directions (without specifically instantiated voices)
Hi Mark,
It looks like there is a solution to the problem
Glad it worked!
perhaps people in the past just didn't understand the questions of
the people asking properly . . .
Perhaps... that's why I kept trying to clarify what question you were
really asking, so that I could answer the question you were really
asking! =)
Graham: may I suggest one thing that might help the docs? In 6.3
(especially .4, Explicitly instantiating voices), maybe if the notes
in each Voice context were independently (i.e., differently)
coloured, the examples (and thus the constructs and internal Lilypond
mechanisms) would be even more clear immediately?
For an example, see the attached snippet.
Best regards,
Kieren.
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\version 2.11.30
\markup \wordwrap { At first it may be difficult to understand why
the three C notes are not tied in the following example: }
\score
{
\new Staff \relative c''
{
c ~ { c ~ } \\ { a } c
}
}
\markup \wordwrap { By colouring the main Voice red, the problem
becomes clear: }
\score
{
\new Staff \relative c''
{
\override Voice.NoteHead #'color = #red
c ~ { c ~ } \\ { a } c
}
}
\markup \wordwrap
{
Within the \typewriter { \\\ } polyphony section, two
completely new Voice contexts, independent from the main Voice, have
been constructed automatically by Lilypond. There are several ways to
compensate for this instantiation, but the easiest is simply to avoid
the \typewriter { \\\ } construct entirely — within the
construct, any notes before an explicit \typewriter { \\new Voice }
command will belong to the main Voice context (i.e., the one
“outside” the polyphony):
}
\score
{
\new Staff \relative c''
{
\override Voice.NoteHead #'color = #red
c ~ { c ~ } \new Voice { a } c
}
}
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Re: Tip: lyrics with polyphony / stem directions (without specifically instantiated voices)
Excellent idea! I will add something like this to the manual, extended with
yet another example that shows how to manually specify \voiceOne and so on.
/Mats
Kieren MacMillan wrote:
Hi Mark,
It looks like there is a solution to the problem
Glad it worked!
perhaps people in the past just didn't understand the questions of
the people asking properly . . .
Perhaps... that's why I kept trying to clarify what question you were
really asking, so that I could answer the question you were really
asking! =)
Graham: may I suggest one thing that might help the docs? In 6.3
(especially .4, Explicitly instantiating voices), maybe if the notes
in each Voice context were independently (i.e., differently) coloured,
the examples (and thus the constructs and internal Lilypond
mechanisms) would be even more clear immediately?
For an example, see the attached snippet.
Best regards,
Kieren.
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\version 2.11.30
\markup \wordwrap { At first it may be difficult to understand why the
three C notes are not tied in the following example: }
\score
{
\new Staff \relative c''
{
c ~ { c ~ } \\ { a } c
}
}
\markup \wordwrap { By colouring the main Voice red, the problem
becomes clear: }
\score
{
\new Staff \relative c''
{
\override Voice.NoteHead #'color = #red
c ~ { c ~ } \\ { a } c
}
}
\markup \wordwrap
{
Within the \typewriter { \\\ } polyphony section, two
completely new Voice contexts, independent from the main Voice, have
been constructed automatically by Lilypond. There are several ways to
compensate for this instantiation, but the easiest is simply to avoid
the \typewriter { \\\ } construct entirely — within the
construct, any notes before an explicit \typewriter { \\new Voice }
command will belong to the main Voice context (i.e., the one “outside”
the polyphony):
}
\score
{
\new Staff \relative c''
{
\override Voice.NoteHead #'color = #red
c ~ { c ~ } \new Voice { a } c
}
}
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Re: No lyrics to polyphony
See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2006-01/msg00409.html
(The example in the manual has been moved to the section on Divisi lyrics).
/Mats
Quoting Ezequiel Sierra [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
i have something like
\version 2.10.2
tope = \relative c' {
\key ees \major
\time 4/4
\new Voice = melodia {
{ \stemUp bes'2 ees, bes'4 d bes' } \\ { \stemDown d ( f ) }
}
}
versoUno = \lyricmode {
\set stanza = 1.
¡San4 -- to!4 ¡San4 -- to!4
}
\score {
\context ChoirStaff
\new Staff = tope { \tope }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto melodia \versoUno
}
No lyrics added
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Re: No lyrics to polyphony
to be more specific
\context Voice = melodia { \voiceOne bes'4. bes8 bes g4 bes
g } { \voiceTwo f4 f4 } \oneVoice
i get all stems down of that staff why?
On Dec 17, 2006, at 5:04 PM, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2006-01/
msg00409.html
(The example in the manual has been moved to the section on Divisi
lyrics).
/Mats
Quoting Ezequiel Sierra [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
i have something like
\version 2.10.2
tope = \relative c' {
\key ees \major
\time 4/4
\new Voice = melodia {
{ \stemUp bes'2 ees, bes'4 d bes' } \\ { \stemDown d
( f ) }
}
}
versoUno = \lyricmode {
\set stanza = 1.
¡San4 -- to!4 ¡San4 -- to!4
}
\score {
\context ChoirStaff
\new Staff = tope { \tope }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto melodia \versoUno
}
No lyrics added
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No lyrics to polyphony
i have something like
\version 2.10.2
tope = \relative c' {
\key ees \major
\time 4/4
\new Voice = melodia {
{ \stemUp bes'2 ees, bes'4 d bes' } \\ { \stemDown d ( f ) }
}
}
versoUno = \lyricmode {
\set stanza = 1.
¡San4 -- to!4 ¡San4 -- to!4
}
\score {
\context ChoirStaff
\new Staff = tope { \tope }
\new Lyrics \lyricsto melodia \versoUno
}
No lyrics added
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Cannot get the lyrics in polyphony
Hi all,
can somebody explain my mistake in coding the following example?
If I code the music like nogood I cannot get any lyrics.
I can only get the lyrics if I code the music like good.
Why?
There is surely something I am missing...
Ciao,
Ric
===
\version 2.8.0
\header { title = Prova }
\include italiano.ly
global = { \time 4/4}
nogood = \relative do'' {
{ \stemDown do2 re8 mi8 fa8 sol8 } \\
{ \stemUp mi2 fa8 sol8 la8 si8 } |
{ \stemDown do1 } \\ { \stemUp sol1}
}
good = \relative do'' {
do mi 2 re fa 8 mi sol 8 fa la 8 sol si 8
do sol 1
}
voce = \lyricmode {
ah oh eh ih ah oh
}
\score {
\new Staff {
\global
\context Voice = nogood { \nogood }
\context Voice = good { \good }
}
\override Score.LyricText #'font-family = #'sans
\new Lyrics \lyricsto good\voce
\new Lyrics \lyricsto nogood\voce
\layout { }
\midi { \tempo 4=90 }
}
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Re: Cannot get the lyrics in polyphony
Hello Riccardo,
That is a common stumbling for lilypond users. In your case you have to
avoid the construct \\ and explicitly create a voice context. See
Explicitly Instantiating Voices in the manual. Anyway, this should make
you score work:
nogood = \relative do'' {
\new Voice = nogood { \voiceTwo do2 re8 mi8 fa8 sol8 }
{ \voiceOne mi2 fa8 sol8 la8 si8 } \oneVoice |
\context Voice = nogood { \voiceTwo do1 } { \voiceOne sol1}
\oneVoice
}
Eduardo Vieira
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From: Riccardo Orfei [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 6:56 AM
Subject: Cannot get the lyrics in polyphony
Hi all,
can somebody explain my mistake in coding the following example?
If I code the music like nogood I cannot get any lyrics.
I can only get the lyrics if I code the music like good.
Why?
There is surely something I am missing...
Ciao,
Ric
===
\version 2.8.0
\header { title = Prova }
\include italiano.ly
global = { \time 4/4}
nogood = \relative do'' {
{ \stemDown do2 re8 mi8 fa8 sol8 } \\
{ \stemUp mi2 fa8 sol8 la8 si8 } |
{ \stemDown do1 } \\ { \stemUp sol1}
}
good = \relative do'' {
do mi 2 re fa 8 mi sol 8 fa la 8 sol si 8
do sol 1
}
voce = \lyricmode {
ah oh eh ih ah oh
}
\score {
\new Staff {
\global
\context Voice = nogood { \nogood }
\context Voice = good { \good }
}
\override Score.LyricText #'font-family = #'sans
\new Lyrics \lyricsto good\voce
\new Lyrics \lyricsto nogood\voce
\layout { }
\midi { \tempo 4=90 }
}
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lyrics in polyphony
I am writing a song in lead-sheet format. I have an introduction that is polyphonic (manual 2.16). The last measure of the introduction has a pickup into the melody proper. I can't get a lyric on that pick-up. In single-staff polyphony, how can you treat the top line as melody with lyric and the bottom as accompaniment? My piece uses a template from the manual (notes, lyrics, and chords 3.2.4) Charles ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lyrics in polyphony
Please send a (small) example of what you tried. Also, don't forget to tell what version of LilyPond you use, otherwise you might get an answer that's not fully relevant to you. Take a look at the the example for Vocal ensembles to see how to set the lyrics to one of several lines of music in a single staff. I hope you have read the full section on Vocal Music in the manual. It should answer your questions. /Mats Charles Gran wrote: I am writing a song in lead-sheet format. I have an introduction that is polyphonic (manual 2.16). The last measure of the introduction has a pickup into the melody proper. I can't get a lyric on that pick-up. In single-staff polyphony, how can you treat the top line as melody with lyric and the bottom as accompaniment? My piece uses a template from the manual (notes, lyrics, and chords 3.2.4) Charles ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lyrics in polyphony
Charles Gran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am writing a song in lead-sheet format. I have an
introduction that is polyphonic (manual 2.16). The last
measure of the introduction has a pickup into the melody
proper. I can't get a lyric on that pick-up.
The { ... \\ ... \\ ... } construct creates voices
implicitly with names 1, 2 etc. (Follow the link at the
bottom of the page through 5.4.1!) I don't know how
\addlyrics would behave in such a situation, but \lyricsto
surely can help. Make the pickup a separate voice by
creating it explicitly via \context Voice = pickup or
similar, then attach lyrics to it via \lyricsto.
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