Re: where can one find the default settings
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:14:21 -0700 Patrick McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Kieren MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once again, I would like to suggest that all settings for a given grob should be available in a single documentation page ___ e.g., the grob LayoutObject page ___ so that users don't have to hunt them down in fourteen different places, assuming they even know where to look to begin with. [This list of settings should be *automatically* generated, of course, so that no one would have to manually build it for each new Lilypond version...] Since new users are expected to read the Learning Manual, the method to *hunt down* the grob settings is documented. I agree that the process to *find* the correct page can be difficult though. Improving the IR is so ridiculously far down on the list it's not funny. Ask again in Nov or Dec; by then, people with the required skills *might* have the required time. This will absolutely not be attempted as part of GDP. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: where can one find the default settings
For most grobs LilyPondTool's code completion and instant help function provides the default values by automatically walking the interface tree and parsing the documentation and the SCM files. LilyPondTool's most important goal is to reduce the tedious seeking in the reference manual. However one limitation is that currently there is no public interface for generating the code completion database for arbitrary LilyPond version, so for the newer grobs the instant help documentation and default values may be missing. Anyway, I hope you tried LilyPondTool before asking for the default value. :-) Bert --- Original Message --- From: Patrick McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kieren MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08/07/10/, 19:14:21 Subject: Re: where can one find the default settings On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Kieren MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering if there's any documentation on where to find the default settings for a given grob — for example, I don't know where to look to find the default BreathingSign #'font-size setting (which I need right now). [I can easily drill down to the font-interface page, but no specific answer can be found there, because it's an interface shared by so many different grobs...] This is explained in LM 4.2.2. If the 'font-size property is not listed on the BreathingSign page, then it uses the global default setting for 'font-size (which is 0, according to the font-interface page). On the other hand, there are many grob properties with unlisted default values. Does this imply that they are undocumented, or that their values are grob-dependent? I'm not sure if this is documented anywhere. Once again, I would like to suggest that all settings for a given grob should be available in a single documentation page — e.g., the grob LayoutObject page — so that users don't have to hunt them down in fourteen different places, assuming they even know where to look to begin with. [This list of settings should be *automatically* generated, of course, so that no one would have to manually build it for each new Lilypond version...] Since new users are expected to read the Learning Manual, the method to *hunt down* the grob settings is documented. I agree that the process to *find* the correct page can be difficult though. Thanks, Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
where can one find the default settings
[Lilypond 2.11.49] Hello all! Just wondering if there's any documentation on where to find the default settings for a given grob — for example, I don't know where to look to find the default BreathingSign #'font-size setting (which I need right now). [I can easily drill down to the font-interface page, but no specific answer can be found there, because it's an interface shared by so many different grobs...] Once again, I would like to suggest that all settings for a given grob should be available in a single documentation page — e.g., the grob LayoutObject page — so that users don't have to hunt them down in fourteen different places, assuming they even know where to look to begin with. [This list of settings should be *automatically* generated, of course, so that no one would have to manually build it for each new Lilypond version...] Thanks, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: where can one find the default settings
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Kieren MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering if there's any documentation on where to find the default settings for a given grob — for example, I don't know where to look to find the default BreathingSign #'font-size setting (which I need right now). [I can easily drill down to the font-interface page, but no specific answer can be found there, because it's an interface shared by so many different grobs...] This is explained in LM 4.2.2. If the 'font-size property is not listed on the BreathingSign page, then it uses the global default setting for 'font-size (which is 0, according to the font-interface page). On the other hand, there are many grob properties with unlisted default values. Does this imply that they are undocumented, or that their values are grob-dependent? I'm not sure if this is documented anywhere. Once again, I would like to suggest that all settings for a given grob should be available in a single documentation page — e.g., the grob LayoutObject page — so that users don't have to hunt them down in fourteen different places, assuming they even know where to look to begin with. [This list of settings should be *automatically* generated, of course, so that no one would have to manually build it for each new Lilypond version...] Since new users are expected to read the Learning Manual, the method to *hunt down* the grob settings is documented. I agree that the process to *find* the correct page can be difficult though. Thanks, Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
