Re: [LincolnTalk] Lobster

[Joan Kimball]

Also the fish seller at Codman often has lobsters.

On Tue, Sep 24, 2024, 9:55 AM Ursula Nowak  wrote:

> I have guests from Europe who want to eat lobster. Any suggestions for
> where to go? Not too far away and reasonably priced?
> Thanks,
> Ursula
>
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Mosquito breeding places

[Joan Kimball]

We have a small batter powered pump I our bird bath that keeps water
moving. And mosquitos don't like that. Also I keep watering cans upside
down so rain doesn't accumulate. But we don't seem to have rain

On Sun, Sep 15, 2024, 5:21 PM RAandBOB  wrote:

> You might consider putting BT pellets into your birdbaths to prevent
> mosquito breeding. Another place to drop pellets is any storm drains in
> your area. In spite of the dry weather, mine still had stagnant water. Also
> any gutters that might have standing water.
>
> BT pellets are safe for animals and you can usually get them at any garden
> shop.
>
> Ruth Ann
> (She, her, hers)
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Looking for Autobody shop recommendations

[Joan Kimball]

State Road Autobody in Wayland on Rte 20.
We have been going there for years. They are good and reasonable and
ethical.

I think Joey recommended them to us

Onward

On Mon, Sep 9, 2024, 8:47 AM Trish O'Hagan via Lincoln <
lincoln@lincolntalk.org> wrote:

> HI everyone, my 2024 Hyundai needs a new back bumper and I would be so
> appreciative of any recommendations.
> Thanks
>
> Trish O'Hagan
>
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[LincolnTalk] LDTC invited you to Election 2024 Kick Off with Michael Ansara on Saturday Sept. 14 at Bemis

[Joan Kimball]

*Dear Lincoln Talk, I have added the location!*


*Lincoln Democratic Town Committee*

*  KICKOFF 2024 ELECTION WITH MICHAEL ANSAR*



* Please join us! *



 *2024 Election Kick off with* *Michael Ansara*

*What: Meet Michael Ansara, political organizer, longtime activist and poet
whose work contributes to our understanding of justice and political
choices and effectiveness.*

* When:  **Saturday, September 14 at 9:45 Coffee and 10:00 talk.  Time for
questions and answers*

*Why**:  Learn all about the election, the candidates, what you can do*

*Where: Bemis Hall Auditorium*

*Who:  **Everyone invited!!!   AMPLE TIME FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.*

*Come and be inspired, hear ways to help elect the dems, and LEARN!*


[image: image.png]

Several of us heard this dynamic, knowledgeable, experienced Democratic
organizer recently, and we thought he would be the perfect speaker to kick
off ELECTION 2024 in Lincoln.  We are so pleased that he will be with us on
Saturday, September 2024 at Bemis Hall at 10:00; coffee at 9:45.

Michael is on the Executive Committee of the Redress Movement,  the
organizer for *Together 2020*, a board member of *Massachusetts Indivisible*,
and a founder of *Volunteer Blue.  *Michael spent many years as an activist
and an organizer starting with the civil rights movement of the 1960s,
going on to be an organizer for SDS. He spent 10 years organizing
opposition to the war in Vietnam. For 15 years, Michael was a community
organizer, including directing Mass Fair Share. He has worked on political
campaigns, coordinated voter registration efforts, and trained many
organizers. He also owned and ran two successful businesses.



The co-founder of MA Poetry, his poems have appeared in numerous journals
and his essays have appeared in Vox, Arrowsmith, Solstice and Cognoscenti.
He is currently working on a memoir.


* --Thich Nhat Hanh*
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[LincolnTalk] Please join the LDTC to meet Michael Ansara, activist, political organizer to discuss election 2024

[Joan Kimball]

 *Lincoln Democratic Town Committee*

*  KICKOFF 2024 ELECTION WITH MICHAEL ANSAR*



* Please join us! *



 *2024 Election Kick off with* *Michael Ansara*

*What: Meet Michael Ansara, political organizer, longtime activist and poet
whose work contributes to our understanding of justice and political
choices and effectiveness.*

* When:  **Saturday, September 14 at 9:45 Coffee and 10:00 talk.  Time for
questions and answers*

*Why**:  Learn all about the election, the candidates from*

*Who:  **Everyone invited!!!   AMPLE TIME FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.*

*Come and be inspired, hear ways to help elect the dems, and LEARN!*


[image: image.png]

Several of us heard this dynamic, knowledgeable, experienced Democratic
organizer recently, and we thought he would be the perfect speaker to kick
off ELECTION 2024 in Lincoln.  We are so pleased that he will be with us on
Saturday, September 2024 at Bemis Hall at 10:00; coffee at 9:45.

Michael is on the Executive Committee of the Redress Movement,  the
organizer for *Together 2020*, a board member of *Massachusetts Indivisible*,
and a founder of *Volunteer Blue.  *Michael spent many years as an activist
and an organizer starting with the civil rights movement of the 1960s,
going on to be an organizer for SDS. He spent 10 years organizing
opposition to the war in Vietnam. For 15 years, Michael was a community
organizer, including directing Mass Fair Share. He has worked on political
campaigns, coordinated voter registration efforts, and trained many
organizers. He also owned and ran two successful businesses.



The co-founder of MA Poetry, his poems have appeared in numerous journals
and his essays have appeared in Vox, Arrowsmith, Solstice and Cognoscenti.
He is currently working on a memoir.
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Walden/Hamsom

[Joan Kimball]

Thanks, Sara. Exactly my sentiments. This piece by Brinkley was about the
dangers facing Walden, a beautiful, historical place.  And jet expansion at
Hanscom is of concern not only because of threats to our precious places
but also, and especially,  to increasing climate change.

Joan

On Tue, Aug 27, 2024, 8:50 AM Sara Mattes  wrote:

> There will be a dramatic increase in private ( large, as in 737s) jet
> traffic.
> The proposed hangers are not to house aircraft already parked at Hanscom!
> It is to expand capacity.
> It is a money maker.
> To do so, hundreds of trees will be cut, reducing tree canopy, canopy that
> are like a set of lungs, and also provide shade/ cooling.
> In its place, acres and acres or tarmac- absorbing and reflecting heat
> from the sun.
> Those planes are PRIVATE jets, designed to carry one to a very few
> passengers.
> The impact on the many and the environment to accommodate the few is YUGE.
>
> I suggest you read the expect testimony/ comments in response to the EIR-
> all publicly available.
>
> European countries have determined such private aircraft undermine all
> efforts to address climate change and air quality and thus have banned such
> aircraft from domestic flights.
> This is a move to protect all and future generations.
>
> Finally, there has been a complete misunderstanding of the Brinkley/
> Walden piece- it was not a straightforward news report.
> It should have been obvious Thai it was a Op Ed…one noted historian’s view
> of the impacts of the proposed expansion on a national treasure.
> Brinkley was pointing out the irony.
> I urge all to revisit a lovely video again.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Aug 26, 2024, at 11:41 PM, t...@kennedygroupboston.com wrote:
> >
> > I too was taken by the lack of objective journalism by CBS. In addition
> to what Vic mentioned the Hansom issues were wildly inflated. The
> construction issue aside. I’m taking no position on that, additional
> hangers will result in planes being housed inside instead of outside and
> not necessarily any additional traffic.
> >
> > A brief (1 min.) example of current media credibility:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqvkCF64mDY
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Prints

[Joan Kimball]

Wales has done a great job on everything I have taken there.  Karen is
terrific. Joan


* --Thich Nhat Hanh*


On Fri, Jun 7, 2024 at 2:01 PM Trish Adams via Lincoln <
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> I found Wales in Lexington did a very good job on watercolors.
> Sent from my iPhone
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[LincolnTalk] Oil company recommendation?

[Joan Kimball]

Does anyone have a recommendation of a heating oil company?

We used Concord Oil for years and had no problems. Then they sold it.

New company came to do annual service today and now the heater is on on
this hot weekend. (One day in winter, we ran out of oil. This never
happened in 50 years with Concord Oil.)

Any suggestions of another heating oil company?

Thanks,
Joan
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Favorite auto body repair shops

[Joan Kimball]

State Road Autobody in Wayland.  They are really good, reasonable and
helpful.  I am not going anywhere else. Joan

On Wed, May 8, 2024, 2:56 PM Emily Haslett  wrote:

> Hi Lincoln friends,
>
> Do you have an auto body shop you love?
>
> With thanks!
> Emily Haslett
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Re: [LincolnTalk] What am I doing wrong with my hummingbird feeder?

[Joan Kimball]

We got a new red feeder from Audubon and humminhbirds love it.  The 4
feeder tubes look like flowers. (They did not find the old one very
interesting)   The feeder should be red, not the water. I have read red
food dye is not good for birds. Onward,
Joan

On Mon, May 6, 2024, 12:55 PM Rob Haslinger  wrote:

> So a week ago I hung up a hummingbird feeder. I’ve seen three of the
> little guys come and check it out and then fly away without drinking. So I
> must be doing something wrong. I did 1 part sugar to 4 parts water. I’ve
> also been changing it out so I don’t think the nectar has gone bad.
>
> Anyone have any tips or tricks?
>
> Thanks!!
> Rob Haslinger
> South Great Road
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Car mechanic

[Joan Kimball]

We also like the mechanics at Dougherty's.  Its important to keep all our
options.

Joan

On Mon, Apr 29, 2024, 8:54 AM Deb Wallace  wrote:

> Judy -- Marconi's on Rt. 117, formerly Joey's Auto. He was trained by Joey
> who sold him the business after he retired. Marconi is an excellent
> mechanic and always fair. 781-259-9794
>
> Deb
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Town Meeting Moments

[Joan Kimball]

And in Mandarin Chinese,  Dick Bolt responded to An Wang. It was a
> memorable time in our lives.
>
> Joan
>
> On Wed, Dec 20, 2023, 3:49 PM Adam M Hogue  wrote:
>
>> Yes and there was the famous meeting where few people showed up and voted
>> down state funding for the school and cost us 60 plus million dollars
>> because the vocal minority showed up.  So we can thank our high tax bills
>> on this horrible process.
>>
>> *Adam M Hogue*
>> *Cell: **(978) 828-6184 <(978)%20828-6184>*
>>
>> On Dec 19, 2023, at 11:19 PM, Sara Mattes  wrote:
>>
>> Ah-thank you for filling in blanks and adding more nuance.
>> I hope others read this and add their memories too.
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 19, 2023, at 11:06 PM, iearler...@verizon.net wrote:
>>
>> I was at that meeting. And after listening to Dr. Wang and others, the
>> petition was amended to accept the Peace Pole as a gift from the people of
>> Japan, rather than the government.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 09:02:10 PM EST, Sara Mattes <
>> samat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> During some of those extended debates, I sometimes learned a lot.
>>
>> There was a famous meeting in the mid 1980s where the town was asked to
>> accept a “Peace Pole” form Japan.
>> It was a Citizens Petition that no one expected to be very controversial.
>> Who would/could be against a Peace Pole?
>>
>> It was my ignorance not to realize that many who had come from China or
>> had descended from those who had, had very strong feelings about Japan.
>> Dr. An Wang was one of them.
>> He stood before us explain his powerful emotions at the thought-how it
>> triggers memories of the brutal treatment he and his family had endured,
>> and that other Chinese had endured at the hands of the Japanese during WWII.
>> We had a history lesson, but it did not end there.
>> Other got up and spoke to the need to heal -if the Japanese could reach
>> out to us, after what they had endured too, surely we could all reach out
>> teach other.
>> The discussion went on for some time…back and forth.
>> By the end of the meeting, Dr. Wang expressed his appreciation of our
>> willingness to listen and that now he felt it was the right thing to do-to
>> accept the Peace Pole.
>>
>> You will find that pole planted in the SW corner of the town pocket park
>> across from the mall that the Garden Club loving cares for.
>>
>> At this recent Town Meeting, most were held to a strict 2 minutes, not
>> goin on for 10.
>> In fact, one former town official has his mike cut as he hit the 2.5
>> minute mark!
>>
>> I, for one, am willing to listen to my fellow citizens, all 15 or more.
>> Who knows, I might learn something.
>>
>> --
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 19, 2023, at 8:33 PM, RAandBOB  wrote:
>>
>> No question annual town meeting could use some improvements. But with
>> regard to the line at the mike, imagine each of those 15 people wanting to
>> talk for 10 minutes. I have been to many a town meeting where that did
>> happen, and believe me, it’s almost beyond enduring.
>>
>> Ruth Ann
>> (She, her, hers)
>>
>> On Dec 19, 2023, at 7:49 PM, Terri via Lincoln 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Does anyone know what the COST of the Clickers ARE or the breakdown of
>> how many we need?
>>
>> The December 2nd Town Meeting was 100%  proof of how inefficient our Town
>> voting process is.  If you have questions about what I am referring to...
>> please watch the video of  the Dec 2nd Meeting especially if you left early
>> or missed it.
>> *It's an eye sore.*... not to mention *disheartening.*. to watch  >
>> 15 fellow residents standing in line  at the Mic waiting patiently to be
>> "allowed" to speak.. and then abruptly  told to sit down.  Sad indeed.
>>
>>
>> Theresa Kafina
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 10:38:06 AM EST, ٍSarah Postlethwait <
>> sa...@bayhas.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Like all things in Lincoln- if you want it, you’ll have to fight for it.
>>
>> The moderator is against change in general, and it seems that the
>> “clickers” are unlikely to be purchased until after March, if at all. There
>> was debate about town meeting being a time to “stand and make your voice
>> heard” and the clickers make it anonymous.
>>
>> Sarah Holden Cannon and Kim Bodner said that we need a cooling off period
>> after the Dec 2 town meeting. (I fully disagree- this is a perfect time to
>> fix the process. The HCA vote was clearly rushed because the other two
>> issues took so much of the day and the people in power had their finger on
>> the scale. A fair meeting would not allow room for the atrocities that
>> happened on Dec 2.)
>>
>> It sounds like there will be a forum at some point to discuss the issue.
>> Then it will get kicked down the road more. Jim seemed on board for minor
>> changes, but the others marked it up to “the vocal minority” outweighing
>> those who are happy with the process.
>>
>> I actually like the idea of town meeting. But I really needs to be mo

Re: [LincolnTalk] Radical change in Lincoln

[Joan Kimball]

It always has been hard for people with young children. They used to have
babsitting. Do they still?

  It is a big chunk of time.  But it's not that often in  comparison to the
hours and hours that volunteer town officials put in.

Guess it can be seen as the price of democracy?

Joan (former LWV president)

On Mon, Nov 20, 2023, 6:28 PM Rob Haslinger  wrote:

> Being new to town I’m not terribly familiar with the town meeting process.
> I will note however that for those of us with time consuming
> responsibilities (in our case small children) it may be challenging to
> attend a lengthy meeting despite caring deeply about the issues and doing
> our best to stay informed.  Just a comment, I may be missing something
> about how this works.
>
> Best regards to all
> Rob Haslinger
> S Great Road
>
> On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 5:53 PM Margo Fisher-Martin <
> margo.fisher.mar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I also agree that this should be a ballot item. If we can vote for a new
>> school by ballot, why can’t we use the same process to vote for other
>> extremely important town changes - ones that will impact our everyday
>> living here and our taxes?
>>
>> Respectfully,
>> Margo Fisher-Martin
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 5:22 PM ٍSarah Postlethwait 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> A town wide secret ballot would be a great idea to make sure a wider
>>> audience gets their voice represented.
>>>
>>> I also encourage anyone not familiar with the proposed rezoning options
>>> to visit this website to gain a better understanding of the magnitude of
>>> the proposed changes and Lincoln’s uniquely impacted position.
>>>
>>> LincolnHCA.org
>>>
>>>
>>> Sarah Postlethwait
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 4:17 PM Tom Kennedy 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Part of the discussion at last weeks planning board meeting is
 noteworthy, but has not been mentioned here.
 There was substantial discussion, maybe even consensus, on a none of
 the above option. Even a planning board member and some of the “working
 group“ were in favor.
 Yet when the vote came up for a warrant article, that was not mentioned.
 Another part of the discussion was the fact that town meeting
 determination is “skewed“ by attendance and timing. I have observed this to
 be absolutely true.
 It is my belief that something which will so radically transform our
 community should be voted on in some form by secret ballot. It is also my
 belief that that will never happen.
 Tom Kennedy
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Fwd: HCA info session for Mothers Out Front Lincoln

[Joan Kimball]

Wonderful idea to host a zoom infornation meeting on HCA options. Staci and
Mothers Out Front. Thank you so much.

Joan

On Wed, Nov 15, 2023, 2:12 PM Staci Montori  wrote:

> Hi Friends,
> Jennifer is a yes. She prefers Monday or Tuesday 11/27 or 11/28 at 12:00.
> What are your thoughts on these days? Is one better than another?
> Thanks,
> Staci
>
>
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> From: Glass, Jennifer 
> Date: Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 12:21 PM
> Subject: Re: HCA info session for Mothers Out Front Lincoln
> To: Staci Montori , Vaughn, Paula <
> vaug...@lincolntown.org>
>
>
> Hi Staci,
> Thank you for the opportunity! I could make any of those days work, with a
> preference for Monday or Tuesday.
> Jennifer
>
> Get Outlook for iOS 
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 15, 2023 9:56:13 AM
> *To:* Vaughn, Paula ; Glass, Jennifer <
> jglasssel...@lincolntown.org>
> *Subject:* HCA info session for Mothers Out Front Lincoln
>
> Hi Paula and Jennifer,
>
> Mothers Out Front Lincoln is hoping to host an information session on the
> HCA. We would like it if either of you (or someone from the committee or
> Uitle) could help our members (and others interested) understand each of
> the HCA choices being brought to SOTT and their possible climate and
> environmental impacts.
>
>
> Mothers Out Front Brookline did something similar and it helped their
> members understand the choices and process.
>
> We were thinking about a short info session over zoom at lunchtime the
> week of 11/27. Preferably Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday.
>
> Please let me know your thoughts and if yes, what time could work.
>
> Warm regards,
> Staci Montori
> Mothers Out Front Community Organizer
>
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[LincolnTalk] HVA

[Joan Kimball]

I feel fortunate to live here and one of  the reasons is Lincoln's ability
to rise  in positive ways to meet challenges.

Moving to Lincoln in the early 70s, we were glad that Lincoln's response to
housing needs and 40b was to build Lincoln Woods.( We recently went on a
tour of Lincoln woods, and the sense of community is impressive.) .And the
Town also had a thoughtful plan to  protect open space that would result in
protecting wildlife corridors.  Two important factors fir me.

Today Massachusetts once again  has a serious housing crisis, and we are
once again required to  meet the challenge.

I understand people are concerned. And that there is concern by both
individuals and by individuals working together in a group.

 Reading Lincoln Talk, I first became aware that a group of five was
investigating the HCA and the actions of Lincoln's working group. I read in
Lincoln Talk that the group now has 55 members.  And yesterday I read there
is a similar group in Newton and probably in other towns.

We need to remember that there are other views, not coordinated, and not
necessarily expressed on Lincoln Talk or at the Forum.

While zoning does give those of us in "the lifeboat" control, it also has
resulted in exclusion.  Many studies show this.  I recommend that people
watch 2 webinars presented by the Boston Foundation.(See below for links.)

I applaud the work of the Town's working group and their expressed goals
including Lincoln's character, awareness of  climate change, and providing
housing near our transportation area.  (I know that Lincoln will do what it
can to raise the limit of 10% affordable that HCA has imposed.)

May we work together and rise up once again to do our part in a creative
way to help solve serious housing crisis that affects individuals and
families as well as the Massachusetts's economy

Respectfully,   Joan Kimball

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de castus bubo, pugna species! Persuadere diligenter ducunt ad bi-color
barcas.
Greater Boston Housing Report Card 2023

Greater Boston faces a crippling housing shortage, the effects of which are
most destabilizing for moderate- and low-income families and families of
color in the region. The Greater Boston Housing Report Card highlights how
the region has been falling behind on housing production, and how housing
cost burdens have been increasing, making rental housing and homeownership
increasingly unaffordable.
Tuesday, November 14th, 2023, 9:00 a.m. - 10:30 a.m.
Register for this in-person event
<https://www.tbf.org/events/2023/november/greater-boston-housing-report-card-2023>

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Exclusionary by Design:  Zoning as a Tool of Race, Class and Family
Exclusion

As part of a new Racial Wealth Equity Research Center initiative, Boston
Indicators commissioned Amy Dain, among the region’s leading zoning
experts, to research and write Exclusionary by Design: An Investigation of
Zoning’s Use as a Tool of Race, Class, and Family Exclusion in Boston’s
Suburbs, 1920 to Today. Based on extensive review of local planning
documents, state reports, and press coverage over the past 100 years, the
report finds widespread use of zoning as a tool of social exclusion against
residents of color, especially Black residents; lower-income and
working-class residents; families with school-aged children; religious
minorities; immigrants; and, in some cases, any newcomers/outsiders at all.
Wednesday, November 8, 2023, 10:00 a.m. - 11:00 a.m.
Click here for video and recap
<https://www.tbf.org/news-and-insights/videos/2023/november/exclusionary-by-design-20231108>
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Plumber recommendation for water heater

[Joan Kimball]

Agree. John Silva is terrific!!!

Joan

On Fri, Nov 10, 2023, 5:45 PM Scott Clary  wrote:

> John Silva. Perhaps the most intelligent plumber you'll meet, very nice,
> reasonably priced and great work and a Lincoln resident.
>
> 781-647-3236
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Scott Clary
> 617-968-5769
>
> Sent from a mobile device - please excuse typos and errors
>
> On Fri, Nov 10, 2023, 5:08 PM Ellen Waldron 
> wrote:
>
>> Kirkland and Shaw did my work too. Recommend!
>>
>> ellen
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Nov 10, 2023, at 11:29 AM, Sara Mattes  wrote:
>>
>> I second that recommendation
>>
>> --
>> Sara Mattes
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 10, 2023, at 8:35 AM, June L Matthews  wrote:
>>
>> I use Kirkland and Shaw, 781-272-2670, and have been very pleased with
>> their service.
>>
>> June Matthews
>>
>> *From:* Lincoln  *On Behalf Of *Sam
>> inakbari
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 9, 2023 9:53 PM
>> *To:* lincoln@lincolntalk.org
>> *Subject:* [LincolnTalk] Plumber recommendation for water heater
>>
>> Hello
>>
>> I am looking for a plumber that can change the water heater tank. We will
>> purchase the new tank and need someone to remove the old one and install
>> the new one. Do you have any plumber recommendations?
>>
>> Thank you
>> Sam
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Lincoln Town Dry cleaner

[Joan Kimball]

We also strongly recommend Lincoln Town Cleaner and Mr. Chang.  He does our
dry cleaning, zipper repair and hemming.  We feel fortunate he is in
Lincoln.

Joan and John Kimball

On Fri, Nov 10, 2023, 5:29 PM Bernadette and Mark 
wrote:

> Mr Chang is a wonderful person and honest as the day is long!  I recently
> had him replace a zipper in a pair of jeans and he was apologizing for the
> cost  It is what it is.  Since his move down the alley his business is
> NOT as robust as it was when he was on the corner!  HIGHLY RECOMMEND!
> Best,
> Bernadette
>
> On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 10:15 AM June L Matthews  wrote:
>
>> I second the reommendations.  Mr. Chang – I think that is his name but I
>> may be wrong – has cleaned or laundered many “specialty” items for me, from
>> down comforters to Navajo rugs.  And I’ve also used him for zipper repair.
>> And as you say, if he doesn’t like the result of a cleaning, he’ll send the
>> item back for another try.   Garments that I thought were hopeless stained
>> have come back spotless.  When he moved from the corner (where Clark
>> Gallery is now) down the alley to his present location, I was worried that
>> he might lose business.  I don’t know how he is doing, but I certainly take
>> all of my cleaning there.
>>
>>
>>
>> June
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Lincoln  *On Behalf Of *Deb
>> Wallace
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 9, 2023 8:25 AM
>> *To:* LincolnTalk ; delis...@aol.com
>> *Subject:* [LincolnTalk] Dry cleaner
>>
>>
>>
>> Lynn, I also use Lincoln Town Cleaner tucked away behind the Clark
>> gallery. The owner is very knowledgeable about fabric. He will tell you if
>> an item can be machine washed instead of dry cleaned and provide specific
>>  instructions. He also does repairs including zippers. And he’s honest.  He
>> once cleaned something for me and didn’t like the result and didn’t charge
>> me.
>>
>>
>>
>> Deb
>>
>>
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Why Lincoln should overlay HCA zoning over existing multi-family districts

[Joan Kimball]

Tricia, thank you so much.  You have captured how I have been feeling and
thinking.

Lincoln Talk gives us an opportunity to share opinions and differences. And
that's great.

But there are a few  who pounce as if they are prosecuting attorneys and
judges all in one, pounce sometimes personally, sometimes nastilly.

Town officials, volunteers like.you and me , through time have worked hard
and created the Lincoln we have today.

  Our current officials are doing.the same. It takes vision, hard work and
meetings til midnight and constancy through issue by issue,. They can't
have the luxury to pounce.

The RLF has brought so much to the town in helping to shape it with
creativity and brilliance.  Preserving land, creating a shopping center,
helping with housing, creating the Lincoln we love.

We moved here in 1974, from Weston, valuing Lincoln, the land, the ethos,
the creativity that established open space and Lincoln Woods, the
preservation of farm lands and the community, working together.  There have
always been differences of opinion and we have managed to find solutions

So can we, please,  move forward--all of us who share deep feelings about
Lincoln-- showing respect for each other.



Joan


















On Mon, Nov 6, 2023, 8:49 PM Tricia Thornton-Wells <
triciathorntonwe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It’s been very hard to read message after message of people accusing
> others of trying to ruin this town.  I’m really very sad and tired of
> hearing it all.
>
> 1. At the last town meeting, people told the RLF their renderings were too
> generic and asked them to put together renderings that were more specific
> to what they envisioned being developed.  So, trying to be responsive to
> these requests, they are putting together renderings of what is currently
> conceived. Of course these are going to be hypothetical!  That doesn’t mean
> they are acting in bad faith, putting forth a lie. I personally do not
> believe they are operating in bad faith. Do they have a vested interest in
> making sure *something* moves forward?  Yes, of course. That doesn’t mean
> they are willing to go along with something they think will be bad for the
> town? No. Fundamentally, I believe people who volunteer their time and
> money to an organization like RLF love this town and want good things for
> it.
>
> 2-3. The upcoming vote will determine whether a majority of the town (most
> of whom are not on this increasingly toxic echo chamber) believes the
> Lincoln Station area, owned by RLF, should be allowed to pursue development
> with more freedom to negotiate than they have now—something that would be
> profitable, because of increased density, and that could also be a great
> benefit to the town. I personally believe the RLF has good intent and will
> work with a developer to build such a space. I also believe that keeping
> the Mall space as-is is a recipe for commercial/economic failure. I also
> believe we can be a (small) part of the solution to increasing housing
> stock in the Boston metro area.
>
> Why is everyone so afraid and so convinced that *any* and all change will
> be bad? We all do the best we can under the circumstances, which are *not*
> the same circumstances as 20 or 40 years ago.  Please, let’s stop resisting
> every single thing and have a reasonable conversation about how to move
> forward based on today, here, in Lincoln in 2023. We all love Lincoln, or
> we wouldn’t be here.
>
> Sincerely,
> Tricia Thornton-Wells
> 112 Trapelo Rd
>
>
>
> On Nov 6, 2023, at 6:29 PM, Peter Buchthal  wrote:
>
> 
> At the previous planning/hcawg meeting of October 24th, we learned that
> RLF is planning to hire a consultant to draw potential renderings of a new
> Lincoln Mall and present them to the town at some point.   It is really
> hard for town residents to evaluate the potential impact of the proposed
> changes to  the Lincoln Mall zoning without a detailed discussion.  I
> understand the planning board is considering further zoning amendments for
> the new overlay districts to better protect the town's interests.I
> foresee several problems with this strategy.
>
> 1)  Any drawings or renderings will be purely hypothetical and not binding
> on the RLF or any future owner of the Mall as there is no requirement that
> they be actually submitted to the town for a building permit.
> 2)  Assuming a HCA Overlay district is passed at the March Town meeting, I
> see very few obstacles to building whatever the developer chooses to build
> as the town will have NO ability to influence a future developer to do
> anything unless they need a variance for something.
> 3)  Hypothetically, one day after the HCA Overlay district passes the
> March Town Meeting, CIVICO could submit drawings to the Town of Lincoln
> Building Department and the current zoning rules would apply to their
> project without the ability of the town to influence the project.  As long
> as CIVICO starts construction within  12 months of submitting 

[LincolnTalk] Last call for Hanscom Jet Expansion meeting November 4 (tomorrow!) at 10:00 at Bemis Hall

[Joan Kimball]

 Dear Lincoln Talk
We hope you can join the Lincoln Democratic Town Committee at this open
meeting to hear Alex Chatfield from the Coalition to Stop Private Jet
Expansion at Hanscom (and Everywhere) discuss the proposal and efforts to
prevent this expansion that has serious implications for Climate Change!

*When:*  Saturday, November 4 at 10:00 at Bemis Hall

*What: * Alex Chatfield discusses the proposal and work to stop it because
of climate change implications

*Everyone invited!*

*Information below!*

Joan Kimball and Travis Roland, co-chairs
Lincoln Democratic Town Committee

Lincoln Dems




*EVENTS*



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Presentation
*Open Meeting on Expansion of Private Jets at Hanscom Field and
Everywhere—A Climate Change Challenge
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What:

Alex Chatfield and the Coalition to Stop Private Jet Expansion at Hanscom
and Everywhere will share the latest information:

*·* *Facts behind the proposal to expand private jets*

*· Implications for Climate Change & why we should care*

*· Progress to date*

*· Next steps and what we can do*

There will be ample time for questions and answers. (And a short video of
the rally.)
When:

*Saturday, November 4 at 10:00 AM* (coffee and sign in at 9:45)
Where:

*Bemis Hall*
What is the Coalition?

a group of state and local organizations that have joined together to make
a stand against private jet expansion that will significantly increase the
carbon footprint (see below)* as municipalities, the state and others are
working hard to drastically reduce their carbon footprint (a Climate
imperative).
Who are the coalition members?

Over 50 state and local groups including 350 MA; Mothers Out Front, Save
Our Heritage, Sierra Club MA, 3rd Act MA; UU Mass MetroWest;  Concord
Indivisible, Save our Heritage, Walden Woods, Thoreau Society, Lincoln
Democratic Town Committee, Waltham Democratic City Committee, League of
Women Voters (Bedford, Concord Carlisle, Lexington) Greater Boston
Physicians for Social Responsibility and local church groups (including the
First Parish  Bedford, Bedford Green Team at St. Paul’s Episcopal Church;
First Parish   Concord, and St Anne’s Lincoln Climate Justice Ministry)

* If private jet travel continues to grow at the same rate as in recent
years, those jets would produce 940 megatons of greenhouse gasses over the
next three years in the United States — equivalent to the emissions
produced by 65 million cars during the same period, according to a study in
the Journal of Transportation Research Interdisciplinary Perspectives. (As
quoted in the Boston Globe)
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[LincolnTalk] Concerned about Hanscom expansion? Come to this forum Saturdayv11-4 at 10:00 to learn more!

[Joan Kimball]

To Lincoln Talk,
The Lincoln Democrat Town Committee is sponsoring a meeting on Hanscom
proposal for expansion of private jets. Please join us on Saturday,
November 4 at 10 at Bemis to hear Alex Chatfield from the Coalition
opposing exspansion at Hanscom and everywhere--because of climate change.

Please join us!

  Information below
Joan Kimball and Travis Roland, Co-Chairs
Lincoln Dems

*EVENTS*


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Presentation
*Open Meeting on Expansion of Private Jets at Hanscom Field and
Everywhere—A Climate Change Challenge
<https://lincolnmadems.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=4403464b595e5ff296ff1ab0f&id=141e513259&e=31a8fc7a62>*

  What:

Alex Chatfield and the Coalition to Stop Private Jet Expansion at Hanscom
and Everywhere will share the latest information:

*·* *Facts behind the proposal to expand private jets*

*· Implications for Climate Change & why we should care*

*· Progress to date*

*· Next steps and what we can do*

There will be ample time for questions and answers. (And a short video of
the rally.)
When:

*Saturday, November 4 at 10:00 AM* (coffee and sign in at 9:45)
Where:

*Bemis Hall*
What is the Coalition?

a group of state and local organizations that have joined together to make
a stand against private jet expansion that will significantly increase the
carbon footprint (see below)* as municipalities, the state and others are
working hard to drastically reduce their carbon footprint (a Climate
imperative).
Who are the coalition members?

Over 50 state and local groups including 350 MA; Mothers Out Front, Save
Our Heritage, Sierra Club MA, 3rd Act MA; UU Mass MetroWest;  Concord
Indivisible, Save our Heritage, Walden Woods, Thoreau Society, Lincoln
Democratic Town Committee, Waltham Democratic City Committee, League of
Women Voters (Bedford, Concord Carlisle, Lexington) Greater Boston
Physicians for Social Responsibility and local church groups (including the
First Parish  Bedford, Bedford Green Team at St. Paul’s Episcopal Church;
First Parish   Concord, and St Anne’s Lincoln Climate Justice Ministry)



* If private jet travel continues to grow at the same rate as in recent
years, those jets would produce 940 megatons of greenhouse gasses over the
next three years in the United States — equivalent to the emissions
produced by 65 million cars during the same period, according to a study in
the Journal of Transportation Research Interdisciplinary Perspectives. (As
quoted in the Boston Globe)
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Re: [LincolnTalk] HCA & Codman Road

[Joan Kimball]

Thank you David for your clear message.  I agree with each town doing
their part to help the housing crisis we are facing. And besides, it's the
law.

  Senator Barrett at one point said, we have the jobs and we have workers,
but not adequate housing for them.

 I certainly benefit from other towns' services and businesses.   We are
not living in a vacuum.

  I treasure our town's open space,and as a former Conservation Commission
member when we wrote the Wetland Bylaw, I treasure the services for nature
and for us that our protected wetlands provide. These lands will not be
built upon.  And there will be site reviews.

Joan


* --Thich Nhat Hanh*


On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 10:32 AM David Onigman 
wrote:

> I have been hesitant to engage in the housing discussion on LincolnTalk,
> but after reading a few recent comments about the motives for some of the
> Codman Road residents and their advocacy in favor of the Housing Choice Act
> and our road being included in it, I am inspired to weigh in.
>
> I live on Codman Road and was one of the residents that advocated in favor
> of my area of South Lincoln to be included in the proposals submitted to
> the Commonwealth to be in compliance with the Housing Choice Act.
>
> I consider myself a housing advocate and generally speaking am in favor of
> the legislation. There is a housing crisis in this country, and in
> Massachusetts, and every town can do their part to contribute a small bit
> to increased inventory to support this issue.
>
> I also consider myself an advocate of public transportation and am a
> frequent user of the commuter rail. My family is able to currently be a one
> car family largely in part to my proximity to the train into Boston.
>
> I am in support of all plans that include these subdistricts to be as
> close to the Commuter Rail as possible, as I believe that to be in the
> spirit of this legislation, and also what is best for our town planning.
>
> I love Lincoln, I think Lincoln is an amazing place to live and raise
> children.
>
> Lincoln is over 40% conservation land and nothing is ever going to change
> that.
>
> I believe that the effects of the HCA to loosen a bit of the zoning laws
> in certain subdistricts to not be by-right single-family housing is a good
> thing.
>
> I believe towns like Lincoln that are looking to support a small
> commercial center and maintain services like a grocery store need to modify
> a bit of the by-right zoning to ensure that things like having a grocery
> store are sustainable.
>
> Let me clarify that my beliefs are not driven by any personal financial
> aspirations linked to my property. For those seeking assurance, my lot,
> surrounded by wetlands, isn't viable for further development. Our family
> home, built in 1951, has always stood here, and we have no intentions of
> leaving.
>
> So I am just here to say - yes, in my backyard, I support the HCA, I
> support Codman road being included as one of the subdistricts.
>
> Every town can do a small part to support more housing inventory and every
> town can do a small part to allow more housing near public transportation.
>
> I’m not looking to engage in any LincolnTalk back and forth on my thoughts
> on this, but if anyone is looking to discuss these topics further offline,
> please feel free to write me an email and we can grab a cup of coffee.
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Housing Choice/Codman Corner Road

[Joan Kimball]

Staci, thank you for your thoughtful and inspiring explanation. Joan

On Fri, Oct 13, 2023, 8:13 PM Staci Montori  wrote:

> Hi Susanna,
>
> My understanding is that the first SLIPC working group looked at rezoning
> an 'out of the way' area, the Green Ridge/"Flying Nun" condo area. There
> was a huge amount of residential resistance against this proposal.
> Residents and neighbors were concerned that many of the people renting at
> more affordable rates would be forced to move out of Lincoln if the
> property owners wanted to sell to a developer. The current working group
> found this to be a reasonable concern and therefore didn't include this
> area in the recent rezoning plans.
>
> The Codman Road neighborhood (where I live) is all privately owned and
> therefore none of us will be forced to sell or move. Therefore, it is a
> more fair and sensitive rezoning proposal.
>
> We absolutely love living close to the MBTA, the town station, the school,
> the fields and the farms. We utilize all of these often by foot, not by
> car. The main reason we chose to live on Codman Road 23 years ago was for
> the walkability - to the grocery store, the bank, the cafe, and
> to Something Special. And for the bike paths from our home to the schools,
> soccer fields and farms, along with the proximity to all the green space
> and trails surrounding us. I would love for more families and individuals
> (perhaps one of my three children someday) to have the opportunity to live
> at the town station or on parts of my road or Lewis street if parcels are
> redeveloped.
>
> I am very optimistic that any possible negative aesthetic changes and
> traffic patterns to the town station and possibly my neighborhood, will be
> offset by the benefits of providing a home and community to many more
> people. They will all benefit from the amazing things that Lincoln has to
> offer such as extensive green space, organic food and farms, a fantastic
> public school and a commuter rail into Boston. I also think a more vibrant,
> dense town center will attract more successful businesses, making it so we
> all don't have to drive our cars into other communities (causing traffic
> for them) for a variety of things.
>
> Finally, I will say I find the comments from some on LT, that our
> neighborhood is possibly looking to make millions on this change in zoning,
> to be misinformed. We and several of our neighbors want to be part of the
> solution for the housing crisis, lack of diversity and the climate crisis.
> Building a more housing-dense, vibrant, green and accesible town center
> will help with these.
>
> We SO appreciate the HCA committee for being very creative, thoughtful and
> responsive to us and others in town, and for creating a plan that both
> meets the requirements and the spirit of the HCA .
>
> Warm regards,
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Fwd: Many thanks...

[Joan Kimball]

And continuing on  Sara's email, also thanks by name to the Coalition to
stop Expansion of Private Jets at Hanscom and Everywhere that has over 50
groups as members and who distrubuted the bright yellow signs.

Joan Kimball

On Thu, Oct 5, 2023, 9:19 AM Sara Mattes  wrote:

>
>
> > …to those who have made this potential disaster front page news.
> > Thanks to our elected leadership led by Sen. Mike Barrett, the brilliant
> work of Save our Heritage and its president, Neil Rasmussen and all the
> citizen groups and individuals who show up and speak out on behalf of us
> all.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ———
> > Sara Mattes
> >
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Re: [LincolnTalk] 15 units per acre

[Joan Kimball]

Thank you, John. I agree.

I support the work of the Housing Choice Committee, the selects and RLF on
implementing the housing choice act so that it fits Lincoln.   The
presentation at the state of the town was impressive and showed hundreds of
hours of high quality thought and work.

We have good bylaws and regulations that will ensure good results. 40% of
our town is in conservation. And we protect our wetlands.

Joan Kimball





On Tue, Oct 3, 2023, 9:30 PM John Mendelson 
wrote:

> Sad to say the congestion ship has already sailed as people have been
> forced, due to the high cost of housing, to move further and further from
> work only to spend hours in their cars commuting each day.  Many of them
> cutting through Lincoln.  Many people who work in Lincoln cannot afford to
> live here.
>
> If we choose to nothing, we are part of the problem, not the solution.
> Plus, we risk losing Donelan’s and critical grant money from the state.
>
> By increasing density in what is already a commercial district replete
> with lots of empty asphalt parking lots and tired buildings, at least we
> make a positive step toward increasing potential ridership of the commuter
> rail and improving the walkability of our town for more residents.
>
> John
>
> On Tue, Oct 3, 2023, 9:16 PM Robert Ahlert  wrote:
>
>> Margaret - Can you give us the same calculation but use sq feet instead
>> of units? Perhaps the units are a lot smaller at Lincoln Woods?  What is
>> the sq ft per acre (net) at Lincoln woods vs Oriole Landing?
>>
>> I still believe we are looking at a bunch of Oriole Landings (nice
>> buildings on their own actually) in town and a lot cars.
>>
>> Guess we’ll see with Mall proposal (85 units, sq footage?) and we can
>> extrapolate from there before the up/down vote in March.
>>
>> We will adjust to the congestion but will we still want to live here? My
>> guess is this will become a turn-over town like many towns in New Jersey
>> where people put up For Sale signs on high school graduation day.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 8:43 PM Margaret Olson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The net density shown on the HCA working group slides is this math:
>>>
>>> (unit count) / (lot size- wetlands - conservation restrictions)  = "HCA
>>> density"
>>> (unit count) / (lot size) = traditional net density
>>>
>>> For Oriole landing these numbers are:
>>> (60 acre lot)/ (6 acre lot - 0 wetlands acres - 0 acres with
>>> conservation restrictions)  = 10 units/acre
>>> In the Oriole Landing case the "HCA Density" and the traditional net
>>> density are the same.
>>>
>>> For Lincoln Woods these numbers are:
>>> "HCA Density": 20 acre lot - 13 acres of wetland - 0 acres with
>>> conservation restrictions / 125 units = 17.9 units per acre
>>> traditional net density: 20 acre lot / 125 units = 6.3 units per acre
>>>
>>> Note that Lincoln Woods has two apartment buildings as well as the
>>> townhouses that dominate the view from Lincoln Road.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 7:57 PM Robert Ahlert 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Would it be ok if I called Utile? Can someone provide me a contact?
>>>>
>>>> Sorry but am dubious that Lincoln Woods (2 stories) with some gaps
>>>> between structures is higher “net” density than Oriole Landing (3 stories)
>>>> with net density of 10 per the presentation. If you don’t explain, we
>>>> should all be in doubt.
>>>>
>>>> My fear is that we will end up with larger Oriole Landings and many
>>>> more of them. Is this what Lincoln is really all about? What is the upside?
>>>> Busier stores? I don’t get it.
>>>>
>>>> CCBC might be more money out of my pocket but I can live with that.
>>>> Quality of life is irreplaceable.
>>>>
>>>> I fully understand that our hand was forced by the state and that  they
>>>> really over stepped here. Not blaming the Working Group. They are doing
>>>> best in bad situation.
>>>>
>>>> Rob A
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 5:56 PM Margaret Olson 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That article uses a somewhat different definition of gross density and
>>>>> refers to the state’s highly complicated set of calculations. Any zoning
>>>>> regulation we pass will be net density, as are our current zoning bylaws.
>>>>> Utile, the consultants we hired

Re: [LincolnTalk] Join our Hanscom Expansion stand-out at Paul Revere Capture Site Tuesday at 4:00pm

[Joan Kimball]

Alex has them if there are any left. Joan

On Mon, Sep 4, 2023, 5:43 PM Anne Warner  wrote:

> Thank you Alex. If I’m ever free at that time (unlikely as I work full
> time) , I shall come join you. Question for you or anyone else reading
> this: do you know where we could get one of those yellow signs that say
> Stop the Expansion? We’re right near Hanscommamd would like to put one in
> front of our house. Anne Warner
>
> - Sent from iPhone. Typed by thumb. Excuse misspellings!
>
> On Sep 4, 2023, at 12:21 PM, Alex Chatfield via Lincoln <
> lincoln@lincolntalk.org> wrote:
>
> 
> Each Tuesday from 4:00pm to 5:30 we gather at 180 North Great Road,
> Lincoln, the Paul Revere Capture Site in the Historic Park, with signs and
> banners to show our opposition to the expansion of private jet facilities
> at Hansom Field.  We will provide the signs and banners, so just come and
> park in the designated lot.  If it's raining or thunder storms are
> predicted, the protest may be canceled.  Feel free to email or call if you
> have questions.
>
> For more information about the North Airfield Project and the climate
> impacts of private luxury jets, check our http://www.spje.org
>
> While you are there, *please sign the petition to Governor Healey*, the
> only elected official who may have the power to cancel this unnecessary and
> dangerous project.
>
> Alex Chatfield
> 270 Concord Road
> Lincoln, MA 01773
> cell: 781-697-0140
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Three cheers for Lincoln Parks and Rec!

[Joan Kimball]

A lovely day to be together as Lincoln.  Loved seeing all the floats, the
people,  and again appreciating the Lincoln Step Team.

Joan

On Tue, Jul 4, 2023, 10:38 PM Christina Thompson <
christinathompso...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree! Lovely turnout, weather fine just for the right stretch of time.
> Great to see so many Lincolnites.
> Thank you, all!
> Chris Thompson
>
> On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 1:58 PM Margaret P Flint 
> wrote:
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>> Thank you for doing an un-rain dance, gritting your teeth and going ahead
>> with the festivities.  It was a great 4th!
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Photo sorting/album making help sought

[Joan Kimball]

I use shutterfly. And there is s feature that lets you do it yourself with
template help. I wOuld bever do the automatic version.  BUT the non
automatic lets you choose how many photos you want on each page, a a
variety of setups for each number and text.

Joan

On Fri, Jun 16, 2023, 12:57 PM Rosemary Lloyd  wrote:

> Hello!
> Are you great at sorting other people’s photos?
> I am in dire need of help getting family albums of print albums organized.
> AND
> I’m looking for someone who can walk me through how to make great-looking
> albums from digital photos.
> If you have some expertise in this area and time this summer, please be in
> touch about this paid job.
> Thanks!
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[LincolnTalk] Against Hansom Private Jet Expansion? Join Bill McKibben & Neil Rasmussen on a webnar June 21 at 5:00. Registration below!!

[Joan Kimball]



*Save the date! –*



·  *Wed, June 21, 5 pm via zoom**:  Join Bill McKibben (Third Act) & Neil
Rasmussen (Save Our Heritage) *and others who are fighting to prevent a
major Private Jet Expansion at Hanscom Airfield for an informational
webinar:



·*R*egistration link for June 21:

https://350mass.betterfutureproject.org/stop_private_jets



As background see:

·   WBUR’s editorial  Private jets are a climate disaster. Hanscom
shouldn’t allow more

,

·   The Boston Globe story  Plan to expand hangar space for private
jets at Hanscom sparks concerns about a surge in climate pollution

,

·   Bedford Citizen article  Coalition Assembling to Combat Proposed
Hanscom Hangar Project

.



To get involved, you can email i...@stopprivatejetexpansion.org



And an individual action you can take: Add your name to the petition to
Governor Maura Healey to block the Hanscom North Airfield project:

https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/stop-Hanscom-jet-expansion
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[LincolnTalk] [Spring Concert to benefit SVdP and the food pantry

[Joan Kimball]

Thanks to the volunteers at SVdP not only for the impressive work they do
all year but  also, in this case, for the superb Spring Concert last
Tuesday at Pierce Park.

It was a beautiful  evening in every way.

The music was wonderful. ( I don't have the names of the musicians; they
were all outstanding!)

We sat on our chairs and blankets, a deligted and happy audience.

 Children danced with happiness.

The weather was perfect.

The cause so important.

A time to cherish.

Joan
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[LincolnTalk] Thank you. Velvet

[Joan Kimball]

Thank you for your very skillful response to us.   We all need to have a
basic understanding of each other, where we are coming from and the nature
of our journeys.  And it takes time.

 Your explanation was both clear and kind.

Joan
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[LincolnTalk] First Call to the Lincoln Democratic Town Committee Caucus on June 4 at 2:00

[Joan Kimball]

FIRST CALL to* Lincoln Democratic Caucus June 4* to Elect Delegates to MA
State Convention (to be held on September 23, 2023 in person.)





WHAT: *Lincoln Democratic Caucus*



 WHEN:   Sunday, June 4 at 2:00 at Bemis Hall. *Doors open at 1:30 and
close at 2:15 **sharp, as required by Massachusetts Democratic Committee
rules.*



WHERE:   Bemis Hall in person



WHY:We shall elect 5 delegates and 4 alternates to represent
Lincoln at the 2023 Massachusetts Democratic Party Convention--in person--
in Lowell, MA on Saturday, September 23, 2023.



WHO:All registered and pre-registered Lincoln Democrats are eligible *not
only to vote but also to be a delegate**.*



 SPECIAL ELIGIBILITY:  Democrats who will be 16 by *May 23, 2023* may
pre-register
for the caucus and participate and run as a delegate or alternate to the
convention, although they are not eligible to vote in general elections
until they are 18.



Youth, minorities, people with disabilities, and LGBTQ individuals who are
not elected as a delegate or alternate are encouraged to apply to be an
add-on delegate to the caucus at the caucus or by visiting or at
*www.massdems.org/massdems-convention
<http://www.massdems.org/massdems-convention>*.



 QUESTIONS:  Go to https://www.lincolnmadems.org/join-us   Send a message
to the LDTC Co-Chairs under “Contact us.”



Joan Kimball and Travis Roland, Co-Chairs

Lincoln Democratic Town Committee
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Bravo, Lexington!

[Joan Kimball]

Bravo Connie. Well said.

On Fri, Apr 14, 2023, 6:11 PM  wrote:

> Nobody enjoys "additional gridlock, noise, and fumes," but there is
> something called the greater good that asks us to think of people who need
> housing in a very tight market near public transportation. Eventually, this
> kind of housing and transportation partnership will reverse or at least
> mitigate the additional gridlock, noise, and fumes if it materializes.
> Bravo, Lexington.
>
> On 04/14/2023 2:36 PM Robert Ahlert  wrote:
>
>
> Hope they enjoy their additional gridlock, noise and fumes :-)
>
> Rob A
> 185 Lincoln Rd.
>
> On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 11:55 AM V Saleme  wrote:
>
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> On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 11:53 AM Bob Kupperstein 
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> https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/04/13/business/with-high-costs-little-new-housing-lexington-becomes-first-town-meet-ambitious-new-zoning-law/?s_campaign=breakingnews:newsletter
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Edson Delinksi - Recommendations?

[Joan Kimball]

Efson is terrific. He did our back porch several years ago. Great work.

Joan

On Thu, Feb 16, 2023, 5:14 PM sophie dixon  wrote:

> 
> Hi there, we are about to do a bathroom renovation and we were put in
> touch with Edson. He mentioned getting references locally, anyone willing
> to give feedback / recommend?
>
> Thanks!
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[LincolnTalk] Fwd: Mothers Out Front Lincoln Hanscom Field Public Comment Submitted

[Joan Kimball]

Rachel,
This is a wonderful compendium.  So thorough about the ways we can comment
and background material so we can learn more.

Thank you.  Joan

On Tue, Feb 14, 2023, 7:27 AM Rachel Neurath  wrote:

> *Thank you* to everyone who added their name to the Mothers Out Front
> Hanscom Field expansion public comment! We had an incredible *138 names
> of Lincoln residents*, plus a couple non-Lincoln residents for 144 names
> in total!
>
> *Want to do more? Here are next steps from Save Our Heritage:*
>
>
> *Dear Friends of Save Our Heritage,*
>
>
>
> *RE: Proposed extensive North Airfield development *
>
>
>
> *UPDATE & NEXT STEPS *
>
>
>
> *1.  UPDATE*
>
> A must-read: Bedford Citizen news coverage of Monday’s MEPA meetings
> (2/6),
> 
>
> (also attached)  --includes Senator Mike Barrett’s passionate condemnation
> of this Hanscom expansion, along with others’ comments.
>
>
>
> *Note:  Participation was high at both meetings, and included elected
> state & town reps, as well*
>
> *as the head of Great Meadows National Wildlife Refuge.*
>
> · *50-60 people were at the 3pm on-site MEPA visit*
>
> · *Over 144 people participated in the 6:30pm remote MEPA
> meeting, which lasted 3 hrs !*
>
>
>
> *2. NEXT STEPS:  2/14 Public Comment deadline & 2/21 HFAC meeting
> (citizens can direct questions to Massport)*
>
>
>
>- *Next Tues, 2/14/22:  Deadline for submitting Public Comments* to
>MEPA on the proposed North Airfield development ENF
>
> 
>
> Comments may be submitted to alexander.stry...@mass.gov or
>
> via the MEPA Public Comments Portal
> 
> .
>
>
>
> Please use this reference info in the subject line of your Comment:
>
> “*RE:  EEA #16654:  L.G. Hanscom Field North Airfield Development ENF*“
>
>
>
> To keep the many moving parts straight, you can refer to SOH’s brief
> Overview - ATTACHED
>
>
>
> *General suggestions for submitting a Comment:*
>
>- It can be long or short, formal or informal.
>   - If you have questions, submit them – and ask for explanations
>   and/or further data.
>   - If you have objections or concerns, submit them.
>   - If you don’t know what to write about, read the Bedford Citizen
>   news story above to see
>
> what issues and concerns other citizens’ & elected reps have raised; if
> any resonate, echo them.
>
>
>
> *By topic: Some impacts of the proposed expansion that you may wish to
> address --*
>
>- Increased aircraft operations and ground travel
>   - Noise, air, water, and soil pollution
>   - Public health
>   - Environmental Justice populations
>   - Climate change
>   - Wildlife
>   - Mature tree removal
>   - and more
>
>
>
> *Above all, please submit SOMETHING to help send a clear collective signal
> across the board that this proposed development is unacceptable on many
> levels.  *
>
>
>
>- *Tues, 2/21/23, 7-8pm: HFAC remote meeting (Hanscom Field Advisory
>Commission)*
>
> *We’ll you send a link closer to the date.*
>
>
>
> HFAC was set up decades ago to ensure regular direct communications
> between Massport reps
>
> at Hanscom Field and representatives from our four Hanscom-area towns.
> Each month, Massport
>
> presents a Noise Report, as well as a *Projects & Third Party Development
> report.   *
>
>
>
> *Each HFAC meeting includes time for citizen comments. If you have
> questions or concerns about the proposed expansion,*
>
> *or simply want to hear what Massport has to say about it, please mark the
> 2/21 HFAC meeting in your calendar, and join.*
>
>
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Let's not rush choosing our new Middle School Principal

[Joan Kimball]

Yes, we are one community.

On Fri, Feb 3, 2023, 11:03 AM Joanna Owen Schmergel via Lincoln <
lincoln@lincolntalk.org> wrote:

> Correct.
>
> We are ONE community.
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> 
>
> On Friday, February 3, 2023, 10:21 AM, Abigail Adams via Lincoln <
> lincoln@lincolntalk.org> wrote:
>
> A parent of a child at LPS school is an invested parent. A parent is a
> parent and represents all parents interests. Anything but will NOT be
> tolerated or accepted in this community.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> 
>
> On Friday, February 3, 2023, 9:56 AM, Peter Buchthal 
> wrote:
>
> Andy,
>
> Jessica is not a Lincoln parent nor a Lincoln resident.  She is a Metco
> parent.  I'm a bit shocked why we didn't have at least a couple of Lincoln
> resident parents to represent the 400+ students from the town of Lincoln.
>
> Once the Superintendent gave notice that she is retiring, the scope of her
> work responsibilities automatically changed.   The document you linked to
> never considered the unusual conditions of Superintendent responsibilities
> during the period after giving notice until a new Superintendent comes on
> board.  I feel strongly that It is not fair to ask a new Superintendent to
> make important decisions before she is a full time employee of the town.
>
> Best,
> Peter Buchthal
> Candidate for School Committee
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 3:27 PM Andy Wang  wrote:
>
> Peter,
>
> Was that accurate to say 'by a Committee that shockingly does not include
> a single Lincoln parent or resident-at-large'?  Jessica Llaverias is listed
> as a parent.
>
> *Search Committee:*
>
> Superintendent – Becky McFall
>
> Assistant Superintendent – Jess Rose
>
> Middle School Principal – Erich Ledebuhr
>
> Lincoln School Principal – Sarah Collmer
>
> Administrator for Student Services – Lisa Berard
>
> Interim Student Services Coordinator/Special Educator – Keriann Gilman
>
> Classroom Teacher – Julie Barkin
>
> Classroom Teacher – Amanda Sykes
>
> Classroom Teacher – Karen Sheppard
>
> Administrative School Secretary – Maureen Belt
>
> Parent – Jessica Llaverias
>
> Also, I believe the staffing responsibility for principals falls on the
> superintendent, not the school committee.  (
> https://www.lincnet.org/cms/lib/MA01001239/Centricity/domain/3/public_documents/process/SCSupRoles.pdf).
> There is a clear separation of roles listed.
>
> - Andy
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 3:09 PM Peter Buchthal  wrote:
>
> Dear School Committee Members and Lincoln Talk,
>
>
> *If you agree with my email below, please forward this email to the
> schoolc...@lincnet.org  with your agreement that we
> should hold off on hiring a new Middle School principal*.
>
>
>
> I believe we are about to make a big mistake. In our hurry to find a new
> Principal for the Middle School, the School Committee has forgotten about
> the importance of our new Superintendent getting the opportunity to build
> his/her own team. As many of you know, our Middle School principal Sharon
> Hobbs is retiring at the end of this school year. Our current plan
>  is to have our retiring
> Superintendent run point on the search, selecting candidates and conducting
> interviews before we have even had a chance to select our new
> Superintendent. The retiring Superintendent will be assisted by a Committee
> that shockingly does not include a single Lincoln parent or
> resident-at-large. Our incoming Superintendent will only have a token
> opportunity to bless the candidate selected by the current Administration
> team.
>
>
>
> Given the immense importance of getting this candidate right and ensuring
> that our new Superintendent is set for success, I strongly encourage the
> School Committee to put this process on hold. Our new Superintendent should
> have an opportunity to become acquainted with our school to
> properly determine the specific skills required for the job before
> beginning this process. At a future time,our new Superintendent should have
> the opportunity to lead this process and have a say on the Search Committee
> members and the candidates selected. Said Committee should make a real
> effort to get a strong contingent of Lincoln parents and residents
> representing a broad spectrum of views. Our new Superintendent might decide
> that the school would be better served by placing an interim Principal and
> in my opinion that would be fine. We will be better off waiting for the
> right person who can work together effectively with our new Superintendent
> than rushing to make a subpar decision that impairs our school.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Peter Buchthal
>
> Candidate for School Committee
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[LincolnTalk] School discussion

[Joan Kimball]

I too have been following rhe school discussion: the questions by 2 of us
and the explanations by several of us, some by members of the school cm and
fin com.

And I want to  express appreciation to

--the school committee-- volunteers-- who spend vast amounts of time,
thought and energy on our behalf.

--the candidates for school committee

--the teachers and staff who spend their whole selves teaching the whole
children of Lincoln and Hanscom.

--the administration whose vision and attention to detail make such a
difference.

I have also been watching the interviews for superintendent and am
impressed with their vision, experience and skill in answering questions.

There will always be different points of view--they will be addressed-- and
still we need to appreciate all that is going well.



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[LincolnTalk] Join us in meeting with Rep. Gentile at Bemis, TODAY at 2:30

[Joan Kimball]

Final Call:

The Lincoln Democratic Town Committee  invites all Lincoln residents to
join us and  meet with our new State House Rep. Carmine Gentile TODAY at
Bemis Hall at 2:30.  Ample time for questions and answers.

Hope you can join us!

Joan Kimball and Barbara Slayter


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[LincolnTalk] Power and wifi out on Hillside Road

[Joan Kimball]

Hi
Are many places without power?

Joan Kimball
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Passing Of Esther Braun

[Joan Kimball]

Dear Peter,
Esther was a terrific fifth grade teacher.  She was an especially science
teacjer  Our son was one of her many appreciative students, and we,
appreciative parents.  I remember especially going on a field trip on the
Drumlin and we all--students and parents learned so much from Esther,
geology, solar system, nature in its wholeness.

I enjoyed seeing her at Concord concerts and at Carleton Willard.  She
leaves a great legacy.

Joan Kimball


* --Thich Nhat Hanh*


On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 11:06 AM  wrote:

> My mother, Esther Braun, passed away peacefully and quickly, with many
> family members comforting her, this past Thanksgiving weekend. As many
> longtime Lincoln residents know, she lived in Lincoln’s Browns Wood
> neighborhood and raised her four children with my father, Mort Braun, from
> 1960 to 2001, before she moved to Carleton Willard Village. She was an
> active participant in Town affairs, including the 1990’s school building
> committee, but she was most well known as a Smith School teacher in the
> 1970’s and 1980’s. She and Susan Reece (late mother of Sarah Bishop)
> team-taught 50 fourth and fifth graders in a single classroom, which many
> knew simply as “Braun Reece”. My mother taught science and math, often
> devising her own materials and approaches. One of those efforts led her to
> publish a book “The First Peoples of The Northeast”, which is still used in
> schools and available in libraries and museum stores. A more detailed
> obituary article and memorial event will follow. I just wanted to get the
> word out to fellow Lincolnites who might want to know.
>
>
>
> Peter Braun
>
> 781-249-0071
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Re: [LincolnTalk] (no subject)

[Joan Kimball]

I feel very grateful to  the volunteers who maintain the site. As far as I
am concerned, it's their choice.

On Sat, Nov 19, 2022, 1:07 PM V Saleme  wrote:

> Vbulletin forums is generally considered the standard, by which all other
> forms of groupware, threading and communication within a legible format are
> measured-
>
> Very inexpensive, hosting fees are negligible and will certainly get us
> away from the 1990s in a hurry.
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 9:19 AM Leslie Turek 
> wrote:
>
>> My experience with Google Groups is that you don't need to have a Google
>> account to send and receive email from a group. To people without Google
>> accounts, it would seem very much like the current system we have. People
>> with Google accounts would be able to log into the group to see past
>> messages. I think it would be fairly easy to switch to Google groups if the
>> administrators wanted to do so.
>>
>> Slack, on the other hand, would be a bigger step for people who are used
>> to email. Younger people often use it in their workplaces, so are familiar
>> with it, but for older people there's a bit of a learning curve and I think
>> switching to it would lose a significant part of our current community.
>>
>> Leslie Turek
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 8:21 AM Laura Koller 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, all, for your comments. This appears to be a non-starter,
>>> especially with the Community Center topic taking over much of the
>>> discussion at present. I will just add that if we were to use Slack, Google
>>> Groups or anything similar, I think it would be easy enough to just leave
>>> it open on one's desktop or other device. To be clear: I don't know who
>>> "owns" LT, but I greatly appreciate the effort required to run it,
>>> troubleshoot, etc. Thank you, LT runner(s)!
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 3:22 PM June L Matthews 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi, Andrew. I agree.  I get lots of email from various sources, and
 it’s convenient to have LT in there with the rest.  If I had to log in
 somewhere else, I just might not do it.  But I also agree with the person
 who complained about the long email threads and the difficulty of figuring
 out who was replying to whom and on what topic.  But this is an issue
 mainly during a (complicated) discussion, such as the ongoing one on the
 community center.  Although I suppose LT could be improved, I don’t think
 that it’s really “broken” so let’s not try to fix it.



 June Matthews

 Greenridge Lane



 *From:* Lincoln  *On Behalf Of *ANDREW
 PANG
 *Sent:* Monday, November 14, 2022 2:09 PM
 *To:* Jonathan Sheffi ; Laura Koller <
 laura.kol...@gmail.com>
 *Cc:* lincoln@lincolntalk.org
 *Subject:* Re: [LincolnTalk] Slack instead of Mailman?



 If using Google Groups or Groups.io requires having a Google account
 and logging in to that, no thanks.  As with Slack, that is an extra step,
 and an extra place to go to read the LT messages.  The beauty of the
 email-based list is that it's right in with other daily communication.  It
 is so basic that it works for all, whereas I suspect any "other 'modern'
 group communication platform" may require a subscription, which is a
 turnoff, regardless if it is free.



 I know some people are logged in to Google all the time, but not
 everyone wants to do that.



 Andrew Pang

 Brooks Hill Road



 On 11/14/2022 1:34 PM Jonathan Sheffi  wrote:





 I love Slack. My wife and I have a private Slack server for running our
 household. But everyone knows how to use email -- I think a lot of folks
 who aren't used to Slack might struggle to use it, and community engagement
 would decrease.



 That said, I definitely agree that the current Mailman infrastructure
 is badly outdated and we should leave for a better service. I would suggest
 migrating us from Mailman to either Google Groups or Groups.io. There are
 migration tools so that we wouldn't lose the archive, plus everything would
 become searchable and easier to navigate.



 Who actually runs the infrastructure for LT anyway? 🤔



 On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 12:31 PM Laura Koller 
 wrote:

 Could consideration be made for replacing the LincolnTalk listserv's
 antiquated format with Slack, or some other "modern" group communication
 platform? I find that the repetition of content makes these messages
 unwieldy and quite challenging to read through to find the non-repeated
 content. Thanks for considering this; any thoughts?
 --

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Re: [LincolnTalk] Slack instead of Mailman?

[Joan Kimball]

We are a very small town (around 5000 without Hanscom) and I am
appreciative of having this community service on line.  What firs s really
small town might not fit a larger suburb/town.

And I appreciate so much the volunteers who moderate it.

And I think discussions of issues good, especially when we are civil.  It
makes for better town meetings.

And the bulletin board aspect where we share what we need, what we no
longer need, service providers is great.

I lived here for years without LincolnTalk, and I much prefer with LT.

So, thanks.

Joan






On Mon, Nov 14, 2022, 12:31 PM Laura Koller  wrote:

> Could consideration be made for replacing the LincolnTalk listserv's
> antiquated format with Slack, or some other "modern" group communication
> platform? I find that the repetition of content makes these messages
> unwieldy and quite challenging to read through to find the non-repeated
> content. Thanks for considering this; any thoughts?
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[LincolnTalk] The LDTC wishes to introduce itself to you!

[Joan Kimball]

*The Lincoln Democratic Town Committee (LDTC) wishes to introduce itself to
you!*


The *35 members of the LDTC are elected* on the Presidential Primary Ballot
for registered Democrats in the Town of Lincoln.  (The same is true of the
Lincoln Republican Town Committee (LRTC.)   In addition the LDTC welcomes
Democrats registered in Lincoln to join as associate members.



Part of the *mandated duties of the LDTC is to inform and engage the people
of Lincoln on issues of importance that are a priority for the Democratic
Party*.  These issues impact everyone in town and include voting rights,
reproductive rights, climate change, healthcare reform, racial justice, and
others.



The LDTC *engages the public* through action opportunities, generating and
amplifying news and opinion pieces, and educational opportunities through
panel discussions, lectures, films, meetings, videos and other formats.



The LDTC *affirms the Lincoln tradition that town elections are nonpartisan*.
We do want to reiterate that town elections traditionally have been
nonpartisan, and we strongly believe that they must continue to be. People
run for office in Lincoln, regardless of party affiliation, because they
want to serve the town.



The LDTC recognizes that Lincoln Talk is not a forum for public debate on
these topics—however, we seek to uphold our prescribed role in the life of
the town by sharing opportunities and information that align with our
priorities from time to time.It is our *hope that these links are
useful and interesting* for those who choose to click through, *regardless
of party affiliation*.


*Current opportunities:  *

Are you interested in understanding why and *how down ballot races in other
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Comparable water usage??

[Joan Kimball]

Perhaps we should find a way to fund our water that does not depend on
excessive water usage.

On Thu, Aug 4, 2022, 8:29 PM Ruth Ann Hendrickson 
wrote:

> Yes, of course some people don't water their lawns and others have little
> or no lawn and then some have vast lawns and water them lavishly. We have
> not recently run the data to see the percentages. Let's just say that if
> all the lavish waterers stopped irrigating, we wouldn't have enough revenue
> to run the water department. The base charge only covers part of the cost
> maintaining and operating the water infrastructure.
>
> For leak detection, professionals drive through the town in the early
> morning hours when very little water is consumed, and they use special
> highly-sensitive acoustic equipment to hear the sound of running water. The
> water department also attempts to measure or calculate other non-metered
> water use, such as main flushing, firefighting, etc. They measure the water
> pumped out into the system, subtract the water read by the meters, and the
> water used in known activities mentioned above and the result is the
> unaccounted for water (UAW). They always find a number of leaks, some quite
> substantial, and fix them quickly. A UAW of 25% is not uncommon.
>
> Ruth Ann Hendrickson
> (She, her)
>
> On 8/4/2022 10:46 AM, Andy Wang wrote:
>
> I'm curious, is it that some folks are going WAY over 65 gal/per
> person/per day and throwing off the average or is that most households are
> going over that per day?  Just curious if it is largely a systemic issue or
> just a few outliers that are pulling the numbers high. That seems like the
> water department or the town has that data since they are billing people.
> Is that information public record?  Seems like an interesting dataset to go
> through.
>
> Also, 25% water loss seems huge.  What is the mechanism to detect loss of
> water?  I presume you know how much is being cumulatively pushed through
> all the meters in Lincoln (the out), but are there multiple points to
> measure the input flow?  Or even localize?  I know when the town suspected
> a leak near our house, they hired someone with acoustic equipment to find
> the leak.  it worked, but probably not cost effective on a large scale.
>
> Andy
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2022 at 10:23 AM RAandBOB  wrote:
>
>> The state restricts us in three ways: we are supposed to meet 65 gallons
>> per person per day overall. We have a maximum amount of water we may draw
>> from the well and from the pond. Our unaccounted for water should be less
>> than 10%. We don’t meet any of those metrics.
>>
>> We are not over by a lot in water usage, but we are always over. We are
>> under during the winter months, and significantly over during the summer
>> months, so you know that the extra water usage is from outdoor watering.
>>
>> With regard to the leaks, we have a leak detection program that was
>> yearly and is now going to be multiple times per year, but we still have
>> almost 25% water loss. My personal suspicion is that it is from leaking
>> service lines between the street and the house. Very hard to detect
>> especially for houses that are far from the street.
>>
>> Be a good scout for the water department. If you hear running water or
>> see swampy areas in your yard or in the woods, call us. The last two major
>> leaks that we fixed were reported by alert citizens.
>>
>> Ruth Ann
>> (She, her, hers)
>>
>> On Aug 3, 2022, at 3:06 PM, Ursula Nowak  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> If you are referring to my email, I didn't say we are using more than our
>> neighboring towns. We are using more than the goal set by the state for us
>> which is 65 gallons per person per day. At least that is my understanding
>> of why we are a level above the state drought restrictions but perhaps a
>> member of the water commission could shed more light on this. I attended
>> part of their meeting on Friday and was impressed with their dedication and
>> diligence. I am grateful for the work they do on our behalf!
>> Ursula
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 2:45 PM Pat Gray  wrote:
>>
>>> First, is the data correct?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On Aug 3, 2022, at 2:42 PM, Elaine Hawkes 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Having read that our town uses more water than others, and not
>>> noticing that we, or our cars,  are any cleaner than average, I am
>>> wondering in what ways we are using so much water.
>>> > Does the data give any information?
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Elaine
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[LincolnTalk] How the Charles River is being affected by drought

[Joan Kimball]

How the Charles River is being affected by drought
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/08/03/metro/how-charles-river-is-being-impacted-by-drought/


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Re: [LincolnTalk] Why hasn’t a call from the town or the water department been made town wide to talk about the drought restrictions?

[Joan Kimball]

Hi. Not any change in water use, just this most  serious condition. Its not
a "normal" drought condition.

 People can take responsibilty of finding out a loosening of conditions or
finding out less serious driughts by reading signs

This is a serious condition for our environment and we need to take care of
it..

We can, of course, differ on how to publicize this.

I am fine with a postcard or flyer.  I am seeing people still watering
their lawns2x a week. And they may just not know.

Many many people are not on LT or the Squirrel, who may not frequent
Lincoln Rd to see signs. We all need to know.

I won't write again.

Joan



On Mon, Aug 1, 2022, 1:06 PM Rich Rosenbaum  wrote:

> Regarding using reverse 911, I would rather not risk crying wolf too often
> for what I would call a serious situation and not a public emergency. If
> used every time the drought conditions changed, people might stop checking
> their voice messages.
>
> For examples of more relevant reasons to use reverse 911, see
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_9-1-1
>
> It includes a couple of Massachusetts examples - even a water related one.
>
> Rich
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 11:02 AM sally kindleberger <
> skindleber...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Steve,
>> I think this drought is an emergency which requires immediate attention!
>> Everyone in town needs to be alerted now!
>> Let’s use the reverse 911!
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 10:52 AM sally kindleberger <
>> skindleber...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don’t think that is enough.  People who live in condos don’t get water
>>> bills, since the bills are folded into their condo fees.  Sandwich Boards
>>> are hard to read.
>>> I really think in this case a reverse 911 call is the way to go!  After
>>> all we are looking at a result of Global  Warming ! Let’s make EVERYONE
>>> AWARE!
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 9:14 AM Steve Gladstone <
>>> steve.gladst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 At the emergency meeting this past Friday, the Water Commissioners and
 attendees discussed a reverse 911 to inform Lincoln residents about the
 drought situation. It was decided that this mode of communication should be
 reserved for emergencies requiring immediate action (water main breaks
 etc.).

 *Obviously*, the sooner a drought situation is addressed, the better.
 Sandwich boards have been placed at locations around town with
 drought information.
 An insert relating to the drought situation is going out with the next
 water bill.  The water bills are being mailed tomorrow.

 The use of lawn sprinklers at Oriole Landing was brought up by an
 attendee and will be addressed.  Specific methods for informing the tenants
 have not been discussed.

 Of note, the Water Commission is not a direct report to Town Hall.
 However, it does have a Select Board member as a liaison who
 participates in Water Commission meetings.

 With best regards,
 Steve Gladstone



 On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 8:44 AM Bijoy Misra 
 wrote:

> Good point.  Is there an official version of the story?
> I did water my new plantings through a can yesterday.
> I request some explicit official instructions from the Town Office.
> Regards,
> Bijoy Misra
>
> On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 10:06 PM Jennifer Goodman <
> jgood...@antioch.edu> wrote:
>
>> Yes! I live at Oriole Landing, and they don’t know about it. I was
>> thinking the same thing. How would you know if you’re not on Lincoln 
>> Talk?
>> All of the people taking 5 minute showers while others are watering their
>> lawns still. Thanks for bringing it up.
>>
>> > On Jul 31, 2022, at 8:28 PM, sally kindleberger <
>> skindleber...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I have been following Lincoln Talk about the newest ban on watering
>> due to our severe drought.  So I know what the rules are.  However there
>> are people living in town who don’t subscribe to either the Squirrel or
>> Lincoln Talk.
>> > Today I spoke to a neighbor who knew nothing about the watering ban.
>> > Shouldn’t a town wide email or telephone call be sent, so that
>> everyone is alerted?
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are people in Weston still irrigating their lawns?

[Joan Kimball]

Thanks,  Sara. I agree. Its very important for us in Lincoln to take care
of our water supply.

 Water will be increasingly precious with climate change, and we all have a
role to play in conserving water in times of draught for both  people and
wildlife.  Grass will come back after browning off.  Watering grass does
not replenish the water table. Lots of studies on this.

Joan

On Sun, Jul 31, 2022, 10:36 PM Sara Mattes  wrote:

> But Lincoln has always been under the “ watchful “ eye/ in the crosshairs
> of DEP for our draw down.  We were, at one time, under a consent decree.
> Perhaps we still are.
>
> We need to be ever- vigilant and understand that to maintain our
> independence from MWRA we need to strictly limit our consumption in times
> like these.  Those of us with no sprinkler / irrigation systems implore
> those with to act responsibly and turn them off!
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 31, 2022, at 6:31 PM, RAandBOB  wrote:
>
> Many of our neighboring towns use water from the Quabbin Reservoir via
> the MWRA. The towns that I know of off the top of my head are Weston,
> Lexington, Framingham, and I think Waltham but I’m not sure.That section of
> the state is not in drought and the Quabbin Reservoir can provide quite a
> bit more water than is currently being used. So people who draw their water
> from the MWRA are not yet being asked to conserve water.
> 
>
> Ruth Ann
> (She, her, hers)
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Re: [LincolnTalk] ALERT COMPLETE WATERING BAN

[Joan Kimball]

Thank you Ruth Ann for clarifying rules.

 And for asking for suggestions.

 Thanks to all who wrote in. I learned a lot.  Early this morning I watered
my newly planted butterfly weed with water I used to cook corn last
night.  Snd will use more of the suggestions. Was so hoping for rain
yesterday.

And thanks Louise for including well users. We are all drawing on the same
groundwater/aquifers.

Walking around  this morning I saw a dried up stream and a particularly dry
vernal pool.

I worked on river restoration for twenty years and am always concerned
about rivers, flow and drought. And all beings.

Onward,

Joan





On Tue, Jul 26, 2022, 10:22 AM Louise Bergeron 
wrote:

> It is important that those who use a well follow similar rules. The law
> differs for well users but does it make sense?
>
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Re: [LincolnTalk] bikes and trails

[Joan Kimball]

I agree. Jeannine. Leave the trails as they are. My concern is for
habitat.  This--connected wildlife corridors in Lincoln-- is a wonderful
thing. And, so often we, the dominant species, have favored people and
their desires over wildlife in big and small ways.

I walked to Walden Pond yesterday on a trail that is open to bikes on the
Pine Hill side of 126. So there is a connection to Concord for bikes and
walkers.

I wanted to slso comment on leashes and Sandy Pond. We are fortunate to
have a water source that is solely under the control of our town.  So many
towns have lost water to pollution.  And with drought conditions now and
more looming with climate change, we should take the utmost care of our
water. A finite resourse. So I second the comment to keep it safe. And dogs
can enjoy being off leash elsewhere.

Joan

On Tue, Jul 12, 2022, 12:15 PM jeannine taylor 
wrote:

> There is a concern for those home owners whose “newly recommended bike
> paths” are in their front or backyards. It may not affect everyone but
> certainly puts a burden on others.  I feel we should leave the trails as
> they are now.
>
>
> *Jeannine Taylor*
>
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> 
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 12, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Bob Mason  wrote:
>
> 
> Barbara,
>
> I appreciate that you have taken the time to read and process the many
> messages about these trail use policies, but I believe the fear of change
> you are describing is a bit out of scope. I believe the language of
> "drastic change" is misplaced.
>
> For example, bike groups can already ride in Lincoln, but most choose not
> to do so because there are other locations that offer more diverse and
> challenging trails. Many of these locations are located in state parks or
> other reservations. The group permit concept is simply to give the town
> visibility to if/when a group would like to ride. I believe the proposed
> changes are in such modest scope that they will exert little to no
> gravitational pull from non-Lincoln riders. We won't see hordes of bikers
> descending on our town. To be honest, if you're going to drive to ride,
> it's not worth coming to Lincoln to do so.
>
> But these changes can encourage some Lincoln families and residents to
> spend more time outside enjoying a ride together. Considering how people
> have been cooped up with remote learning, remote working and isolation I
> think the overall benefits of having more diverse outdoor activities is
> better for the overall welfare of our town.
>
> I also surmise the overall volume of any increased activity will actually
> be inconsequential to the majority of people. I know some argue that any
> change, especially incremental change, is verboten. If that is your belief
> system then it's hard to make a rational, logical argument to persuade, but
> it certainly doesn't seem fair considering that 80% of the town's trails
> will remain off limits.
>
> Others have advocated that we must pause this process and follow the
> "Lincoln Way" to find consensus. One of the acute challenges in this regard
> is that it’s most likely that no consensus will be formed. In that regard,
> the “Lincoln Way” implies no changes, which once again doesn't seem fair or
> appropriate. I think it’s also important to note that the Lincoln
> Conservation Commission, staff and LLCT have studied our trail use policies
> for over a year and have held repeated public hearings so I think the
> deliberative process has been followed carefully.
>
> In my honest opinion, with my full pro-bike biases on display, after these
> proposals are put in place nothing will really change for the vast majority
> of people - walkers and bikers alike.
>
> bob
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 9:39 AM Barbara Peskin 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Lincoln,
>> I am trying to go through all the comments on bikes and trails. It is a
>> lot to go through. I had hoped to reach out to some of you to ask that you
>> send your comments to the Conservation Commission which is
>> voting tomorrow (I don't know the LLCT time line). I would not count on
>> them reading it here in Lincoln Talk.
>>
>> Last week I read a post that was so important about the history of
>> Lincoln holding back on incremental change - that holding back is what
>> makes the nature here phenomenal and appreciated by us all.  Please send
>> that note to the Commission.
>>
>> I also appreciate the note from a biker who likes lone biking on the
>> trails. Truth be told that happens now with the maps as is.
>>
>> As a dog walker here for over 25 years I have been through the off leash
>> dog discussions, etiquette discussions and my observation and understanding
>> is that we are in an okay place. Always etiquette and understanding can be
>> improved.
>>
>> What is about to chan

Re: [LincolnTalk] Trails Continuance

[Joan Kimball]

I would like to know how bikes will affect habitat. We have worked to
purchase and protect  connected conservation parcels for wildlife as well
as people.

I read that one person believes that heavier bike traffic will not affect
habitat. Does the conservation commision or Land trust or naturalists have
a viewpoint on this?

It may be that some towns have recreation as their focus. We have always
had habitat as a goal also.

Joan



On Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 8:24 PM Nicholas Ribush  wrote:

> We’ve seen this argument before. Since there are so many bike trails in
> neighboring towns, riders presumably don’t need more trails and maybe
> Lincoln can be the place where people who prefer to walk where there are no
> bikes can go.
>
> n.
>
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 4:45 PM John Mendelson 
> wrote:
>
>> I must point out that both Concord and Weston (and other towns mentioned)
>> allow cycling on a significant majority of their trails at present.  We are
>> very much our of step with our peer towns in terms of restricting usage of
>> our trails.  And these policies give us a reputation, deserved or
>> otherwise, of a town that is the opposite of welcoming and open-minded.  We
>> are an island of exclusion when it comes to trail use policy in the area.
>>
>> Further, there are many trail bike specific destinations in the area that
>> attract enthusiasts and an incremental increase in bike access here will
>> not significantly increase use nor impact wildlife.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 4:25 PM Barbara Peskin  wrote:
>>
>>> Deb,
>>> Thank you for sharing the zoom link and reminder for the 6/22 vote.
>>> Interest from Lexington, Wayland, Andover, etc seems to be a sign of
>>> outside recreational bike groups looking to get access to Lincoln trails
>>> and I feel that the Conservation Commission's considering to lower the bar
>>> on protecting habitat will negatively impact Lincoln wildlife - I don't
>>> think Concord or Weston will in exchange protect trails if we open ours.
>>> Lincoln has something special because of the generosity of conservation and
>>> hard work of stewardship that came before us, and I wish it could continue.
>>> I am sending in another letter on behalf of walkers and wildlife before
>>> 6/22 and hope you might, too. If you are interested in seeing my letter
>>> please let me know.
>>>
>>>
>>> Re: Trails Continuance from Lincoln Digest, Vol 117, Issue 20
>>>
>>> Hello, all -
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The June 1 ConComm trails discussion over Zoom was robust and
>>> heartening; lots of people showed up and voiced their opinions on the
>>> proposed trails regulations.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For those who couldn't make it, the ConComm decided to hold off on
>>> voting on the regs, and instead to continue the meeting on the evening of
>>> this Wednesday, June 22, also over Zoom. You can find the agenda for that
>>> meeting here:
>>> https://www.lincolntown.org/AgendaCenter/ViewFile/Agenda/_06222022-4573
>>>
>>> Further discussion and a vote on the trails issue is scheduled for 8:15
>>> pm, and the Zoom link for the meeting is on the agenda, or here:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Zoom Meeting Link:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/88063247875?pwd=SFJFd1pKcVJZSDFXUDkxdGVyYzBQZz09
>>>
>>> or Dial In: 1-646-876-9923
>>>
>>> Meeting ID: 880 6324 7875 Passcode: 894034
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Written comments on the proposed draft trails policy are a matter of
>>> public record; Michelle Grzenda suggested that anyone interested in reading
>>> those comments should call or email her or Stacy Carter for the link. (The
>>> Conservation Dept. prefers to get individual requests for the link rather
>>> than broadcasting it, because private emails are included with the
>>> comments).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have read the comments, and think they’re worth the read, as they give
>>> a wide range of opinions on trail use in Lincoln. (I noticed that some
>>> quite extensive comments came from residents of Lexington, Wayland, Weston,
>>> Concord, Belmont and Andover — there’s quite a lot of interest outside
>>> Lincoln in Lincoln’s trail policies.) And of course it’s always good to
>>> hear the voices and views of others on the ConComm Zoom, and to voice your
>>> own.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Deb Howe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ~
>>> Barbara Peskin
>>>
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>>> *
>>>
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[LincolnTalk] June 12 Race Amity Festival 6:00-7:30 at the Weston Town Green

[Joan Kimball]

*June 12:  6-7:30  Weston Town Green: Race Amity Festival.  All invited.*

Hope you and your family will join us in Weston for the Race Amity Day
Festival.



What:  A day to celebrate cultures that make up America

When:  June 12: 6-7:30

Where:  Weston Town Green

Background:  Since 2016, the governor annually has issued a proclamation
setting  the second Sunday in June as Massachusetts Race Amity Day.

·This day recognizes that the Commonwealth is composed of
multicultural, multi-ethnic multiracial citizens, and to encourage
friendship and collegiality.

*Please bring your own chairs**.  The event is free.*



*Description: *

This will be a time of celebration with artistic expressions from different
cultures and  a Keynote address by social justice advocate Roland Gibson
whose service  to advance social justice includes the development of the
Weston METCO program as a model for voluntary school desegregation.



 In addition there will be dancing, singing and movement by people of all
ages with backgrounds from areas of the world including Ireland, Nigeria,
India, Cuba, Costa Rica, and Tongo performed by people of all ages.  The
evening will end with “We are the World” sung by all of us together.




[image: image.png]

*Sponsors:*

Co-Sponsored by *St. Julia Parish Social Justice Commission*, Weston

United Methodist Church, First Parish Weston, Wayland Interfaith Action

Group, *Racial Justice Advocates, First Parish Lincoln*, and community

sponsors.
You can watch a fun introductory video here
.

*A free hope-filled activity worthy of recognition of the entire community.*
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Dry cleaners

[Joan Kimball]

There were 2 cleaners in Lincoln. I don't know about the one near Donelon's.

We go to Mr. Chang at Lincoln Town Cleaners next to the Railroad tracks
behind the new location of Clark Gallery.  And we recommend him.

Joan Kimball


On Sat, Apr 30, 2022, 10:16 AM  wrote:

> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2022 10:44:54 -0400
>
> From: Elizabeth Maciolek elizabethmaciol...@gmail.com
>
> To: Listserv Listserv Lincoln@lincolntalk.org
>
> Subject: [LincolnTalk] Dry cleaners
>
>
>
> Can anyone recommend a good dry cleaning company? The one in Lincoln
> doesn?t seem to be open.
>
> Thank you
>
> Elizabeth
>
>
>
> We use the dry cleaner in Wayland in the now closed complex where Whole
> Foods was. No parking problem, either.
>
>
>
> Ken
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[LincolnTalk] FPL Racial Justice Journey April 7 at 7pm on Zoom: screening of PBS "The Power to Heal"

[Joan Kimball]

*Thursday:  April 7 at 7 pm on Zoom*



*The Racial Justice Journey Continues with a screening of the award winning
PBS documentary “The Power to Heal”*



*Hope you can join us **to see this eloquent PBS documentary about the
struggle to secure equal and adequate access to healthcare for all
Americans.*



[image: image.png]



*What: **Screening of “Power to Heal”*



*When**:  Thursday, April 7 at 7:00*

*Zoom Link:  
**https://zoom.us/j/92054365811?pwd=ZjB5aG96NVVTNWQ5ODU2MHlGN0VWUT09
*





*Why**:  All of the issues we are discussing link up: redlining, housing,
economics, environmental justice and health.  This award-winning
documentary shows the impressive voices of men and women who brought about
change.*



*Descripton:*

*POWER TO HEAL* is an hour-long public television documentary that tells a
poignant chapter in the historic struggle to secure equal and adequate
access to healthcare for all Americans. Central to the story is the tale of
how a new national program, Medicare, was used to mount a dramatic,
coordinated effort that desegregated thousands of hospitals across the
country in a matter of months.  Through the voices of the men and women who
fought for change, the Power to Heal introduces us to a missing link in the
Civil Rights Movement--a struggle over healthcare that raises questions for
today:  Is healthcare a human right?  Must the federal government intervene
to ensure equality?
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[LincolnTalk] FPL Racial Justice Journey...Thursday Ap 7 at 7..."The Power to Heal!" Please join us!

[Joan Kimball]

 *The First Parish Church's*

* Racial Justice Journey Continues*

* Thursday, April 7 at 7 on zoom*

* with a screening of *

* the award winning PBS documentary *

*“The Power to Heal”*


*Hope you can join us **to see this moving PBS documentary about the
struggle to secure equal and adequate access to healthcare for all
Americans.*




[image: image.png]

*What: **Screening of “Power to Heal”*


*When**:  Thursday, April 7 at 7:00*


*Zoom Link: Look for it next week!*


*Why**:  All of the issues we are discussing link up: redlining, housing,
economics, environmental justice and health.  This award-winning
documentary shows the impressive voices of men and women who brought about
change.*


*Descripton:*

*POWER TO HEAL* is an hour-long public television documentary that tells a
poignant chapter in the historic struggle to secure equal and adequate
access to healthcare for all Americans. Central to the story is the tale of
how a new national program, Medicare, was used to mount a dramatic,
coordinated effort that desegregated thousands of hospitals across the
country in a matter of months.

Before Medicare, disparities in access to hospital care were dramatic. Less
than half the nation's hospitals served black and white patients equally,
and in the South, 1/3 of hospitals would not admit African-Americans even
for emergencies.

Using the carrot of Medicare dollars, the federal government virtually
ended the practice of racially segregating patients, doctors, medical
staffs, blood supplies and linens. *POWER TO HEAL *illustrates how Movement
leaders and grass-roots volunteers pressed and worked with the federal
government to achieve justice and fairness for African*-*Americans.

Through the voices of the men and women who experienced disparities and
fought against them, *POWER TO HEAL *will introduce a broad, prime-time
national audience on PBS to a missing link in the Civil Rights Movement --
a struggle over healthcare from a half-century ago, that raises questions
that resonate today: Is healthcare a human right? Must the federal
government intervene to ensure equality?
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Re: [LincolnTalk] LINCOLN…We Have a Problem !

[Joan Kimball]

After reading Scott's email, I wondered  how Jay's concern about CRT
(Critical Race Theory --a subject taught in colleges and graduate schools)
has to do with his running for a seat on the Lincoln K-8 school committee.

I didn't receive Jay's flier and feel we all be able to understand.

Thanks,
Joan

On Thu, Mar 24, 2022, 4:31 PM JAY DWYER  wrote:

>
>
> “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation
> where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the
> content of their character.” MLK Jr.
>
> If you agree with this quote, as I do, vote for Joseph Dwyer for school
> committee on March 28.
>
> Jay Dwyer
> jaysp...@gmail.com
> 603.560.1787 c
>
>
>
> On Mar 23, 2022, at 5:32 PM, Scott Stewart 
> wrote:
>
> 
> Jay,
>
> I'd like to sincerely thank you for taking the time and money to send me
> your flyer today.
>
> *Instead of investing in Critical Race Therory, Jay will...*
>
> To be honest when I saw your concern about CRT, I immediately drove to
> Town Hall to vote *against* you.  I wasn't even sure who I would vote for
> in the other town races.
>
> I'd probably enourage anyone else to do a little more research than I did
> before heading to Town Hall, but in the end I'm happy to have been
> motivated to vote early today.
>
> You really did get someone out to vote today and I appreciate that!
>
> School committees across the country are finding themselves entangled in a
> CRT culture war that doesn't appear to have any benefits for kids.  No
> thanks, Jay!
>
>
> https://www.npr.org/2021/07/02/1012696188/how-critical-race-theory-went-from-harvard-law-to-fox-news
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Scott
>
>
> On Tuesday, 22 March 2022, 01:35:01 pm GMT-4, JAY DWYER <
> jaysp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Why ?
>
> Here are the numbers for K-8 Lincoln Schools from : niche.com
>
>
> 59% proficient in math
> 61% proficient in english
>
> What grade do you get with 61% on a report card?
>
> You get an F for failure.
>
> We spent $13 million a year for our schools and this is what we get.
>
> People with the ability to pay $40,000 a year take their kids out of
> Lincoln schools and put them in private schools like Fenn.
> You know many families that have done this.
>
> We are not traditionally rigorous in teaching. One pair and told me she
> “liked that her son was not pushed too hard in school”
>
> This is a poor foundation which is a recipe for failure in future grades
> and in life.
>
> I have a solution they will not cost any money.
>
> 1) Written homework every night that is graded and handed back the next
> morning with a traditional % grade.
>
> 2) The final exam every week on what you learned that week.
>
> 3) A report card every Monday morning with average scores of Homeworks and
> grade on the final exam with a rank in class.
>
> I experience this program for three years in 6/7 and eighth grade. I went
> through Central Catholic high school in Lawrence it was easy. I graduated
> with a degree in economics from Georgetown university and felt 100%
> confident that I could learn anything.
>
> If these ideas makes sense to you I ask for your vote on March 28 for
> Lincoln school committee.
>
> Thank you,
>
>
> Joseph Dwyer
>
> Lincoln School Board Candidate
> 6 Emerson Rd
> Lincoln, Ma 01773
> jaysp...@gmail.com
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Support for Planning Board Incumbents

[Joan Kimball]

We too support the incumbants, Margaret Olson and Steve Gladstone because
of their outstanding work on the planning board.  We second Dilla Tingley
in sending thanks to Allen Vander Meulen for writing such a good letter on
their behalf.

We hope you will join us  in voting for Margaret Olson and Steve Gladstone!

Joan and John Kimball




On Thu, Mar 24, 2022, 10:10 AM dilla tingley  wrote:

> I applaud Allen Vander Meulen for his wonderful letter supporting the
> excellent work of Margaret Olsen and Steve Gladstone and I also urge
> everyone to vote for them for reelection.
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Zipper repair on ski jacket

[Joan Kimball]

Mr Chang at Lincoln Towh Cleaners has repaired lots of our zippers with
great success.

Joan

On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 4:15 PM wayne vetrone  wrote:

> I searched the archives and didn't find any posts about zipper
> replacement.  Does anyone have a good place to bring a ski jacket for a
> zipper repair or replacement?
>
> thank you
> Wayne
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[LincolnTalk] Here's how you can help the people of Ukraine : NPR

[Joan Kimball]

https://www.npr.org/2022/02/25/1082992947/ukraine-support-help

Here is a link to an article in NPR as to how to help people in Ukraine.
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Speaking to Children About War

[Joan Kimball]

Thank you, Margit.

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022, 10:10 AM Margit Griffith  wrote:

> Dear Neighbors,
>
> I was recently asked, "How do I speak to my grandchildren about war?"  For
> a moment, I had to pause; children and war do not belong in the same
> sentence.  Sadly, children are all too often among the casualties - of
> life, of home/place, of emotional stability - when there is war.  But for
> those who are far away, how do we help them understand?  My answer to
> this is layered.
>
> For small children, thinking about war is not in their wheelhouse.  There
> is no reason to bring their attention to it, to discuss it in front of
> them, to have them see the news.  Our responsibility as parents and caring
> adults is to shield them from this.  What they do need is to learn the
> values of kindness, caring, sharing, being a good friend.  But we know,
> kids pick-up on things, especially their parents' emotions - and I love
> this book... it not only names what they might be feeling, but also gives
> them some action to take...  The Breaking News, by Sarah Lynne Reul
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-U3lF5Ei_E(this Youtube video is the
> author reading the story)
>
> With values lessons shared with very young children, there is a foundation
> to explain war to slightly older children.  War is not kind nor caring.
> War is about grabbing, not sharing.  War is not about friendship.  The
> values we raise-up as most important can be compared to the lack of values
> warring represents.  We can talk about the Nobel Peace Prize and the Peace
> Corps in addition to talking slightly about what a child may have heard
> about what's happening in the world.
>
> Children in later middle school ages and above can have a frank discussion
> about why the war is taking place.  What is being fought over?  Why now?
> Who are the key players?  This is a time to mention your concern about loss
> of life, the emotional damage to survivors, the refugees wars produce.
> Share your feelings as well as the facts.  Naming feelings of concern,
> frustration, anger - all the emotions - helps children identify the things
> they are feeling... it gives it a name.  Knowing how you feel and letting
> others know how you feel is a life skill.
>
> For young children, they should be shielded from the TV.  For older
> children, if you decide to watch news broadcasts (IF!), it should be
> limited and watched with you (for later discussion).  At all times and
> will all children, parents and caring adults should reassure them they are
> safe.  That you are there to do everything in your power to keep them
> safe. If children fixate on or become truly anxious about what's going on,
> call your pediatrician.  They are (or should be) wonderful resources for
> helping you parent on all levels.  They can help you determine if your
> child's reaction is on an anticipated spectrum or if there is concern.
>
> If you have any questions or would like to talk about your concerns, you
> can hit the "Ask Margit" button on First Parish in Lincoln's website for
> Children, Youth, and Families...
> https://www.fplincoln.org/children-youth-and-families/
>
> Yours in Care and Compassion,
> Margit
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Re: [LincolnTalk] An important question about doggie poop bags (DPBs)

[Joan Kimball]

I agree with you. Don.  Carry in, carry out.

The thought of barrels with untreated  bagged feces is definately
unappealing.  And what happens  next?






On Tue, Feb 15, 2022, 12:05 PM Donald Hafner  wrote:

> One of the paradoxes of putting out trash receptacles is that then people
> use them, not just for things on the trail but often for all other manner
> of stuff they want to discard — which means now someone has to be tasked
> with regularly emptying them.  I like the Scouts’ motto: “If you carry it
> in, carry it back out.”  In the case of dogs, if they carry it in, their
> owners should carry it out.  ;-)
>
> Don
>
> On Feb 15, 2022, at 11:58 AM, Barbara Low  wrote:
>
> I don't have a dog in this fight, but the availability of trash
> receptacles along trails would help with proper disposal.
>
> Barbara Low
>
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> Owen Schmergel via Lincoln 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 15, 2022 11:22:03 AM
> *To:* Leslie Turek ; NANCY TORTI <
> nant...@verizon.net>
> *Cc:*  
> *Subject:* Re: [LincolnTalk] An important question about doggie poop bags
> (DPBs)
>
> It is hard not to feel disrespected when one finds a knotted plastic dog
> poo bag close to or on one’s property….even if it wasn’t meant to be
> personal…
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
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>
> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022, 11:15 AM, Leslie Turek <
> leslie.tu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It's rather appalling to me that someone would leave bags of poop
> anywhere, especially along someone's driveway. I understand the annoyance
> factor of carrying the bags on a long walk, but perhaps they could come
> equipped with a fanny pack or something similar to carry it in
> conveniently? Or do a short loop for the dog to do its thing before setting
> out on a longer trail walk? Many dog owners seem to have found a way to
> manage this.
> Leslie
>
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 10:17 AM NANCY TORTI via Lincoln <
> lincoln@lincolntalk.org> wrote:
>
> Thanks for asking about this.
>
> Our driveway/lane serves as access to the Beaver Pond trails, and we
> frequently find used bags that are left behind and end up picking them up
> ourselves. To say the least, this is troubling, and IMHO anyone taking a
> dog on the trails should assume responsibility for appropriate disposal of
> the waste.
>
> Thank you!
> Nancy Torti
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Feb 14, 2022, at 9:30 PM, Julia Altman  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Is it okay to leave used/filled bags along our trails? I have always
> assumed the purpose of DPBs was to clean up after our beloved canine
> companions AND then carry the DPBs with us off the trail to the nearest
> trash receptacle.
> >
> > But perhaps I've been wrong all these years? Because I find used DPBs
> out on the trails with some frequency, even in these frigid temps.
> >
> > Can anyone enlighten me on DBP best practices?
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Winter Carnival Update-Event This Afternoon!

[Joan Kimball]

Thanks Virginia, thanks, Sara, thanks Janet Boynton, filmmaker!

  It was terrific. Learning about old Lincoln, hearing the wonderful
stories,  the good humor,  seeing these old friends talking, the wonderful
smiles, the old photographs.

 Also brought back more recent memories of these elders.

Joan

On Sat, Feb 5, 2022, 11:10 AM Sara Mattes  wrote:

> Thanks needs to go to *Virginia Rundell, Town Archivist*, who had the
> inspiration and managed all logistics.
> We are lucky to have her on board and thinking creatively as to how
> Archives can best serve the town.
> Sara
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> On Feb 5, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Annamaria San Antonio <
> victorygoddess...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I really enjoyed watching this.  There is so much to be learned from
> hearing the stories of those who went before us.  Too many amazing details,
> and interesting lives to name all, but I appreciated how funny, and
> interesting it was.  A hour well-spent !  Thanks for making it part of
> Winter Carnival.  Thanks to Sara for posting.
>
> *~Jai Anna**maria San Antonio LCMT*
>
> *Synergy* *~ Massage**+**Yoga**+**Ayurveda *
>
> *Achieving Wellness through Body/Mind/Spirit Synergy*
>
> *C: 781.738.1920   *
>
> *asana...@verizon.net* 
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 2:40 PM Sara Mattes  wrote:
>
>>
>> Join us for “Townies” - a video featuring interviews Lincoln folks born
>> between 1911-1929.
>> See amazing photos and hear tales of sledding down Rt.2, riding to school
>> on horse-drawn sleighs, skinny-dipping in Flints Pond, and more.
>>
>> It’s hard to imagine it was only a few generations ago…times have
>> certainly changed.
>>
>> Share your own stories and add to this Living History Project.
>>
>> Join us!
>>
>> Sara Mattes, Lincoln Historical Society
>> Virginia Rundell, Town Archives
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> *From: *Virginia Quinn 
>> *Subject: **[LincolnTalk] Additional information on "Townies" film*
>> *Date: *February 2, 2022 at 9:58:23 AM EST
>> *To: *"" 
>>
>> Several people who aren't free on Friday have asked if there's another
>> way to see the "Townies" film being presented virtually that afternoon by
>> the Lincoln Historical Society and the Lincoln Town Archives.
>>
>>
>> One of our goals in showing this video as a curated Zoom broadcast is to
>> make it a participatory community event, one of the town-wide Winter
>> Carnival festivities, with an opportunity following the showing for viewers
>> to share their own memories of Lincoln's past with friends and neighbors,
>> new and old.
>>
>>
>> We hope you'll tune in for the community event on Friday; but if that
>> time doesn’t work for you, "Townies" can be accessed at any time on the
>> Lincoln cable TV server:
>> https://lincolntv.viebit.com/player.php?hash=Z4YtVzaVMQeM
>>
>>
>> Please note: As with many historic records, this film contains brief
>> instances of language and imagery that current viewers may find offensive.
>> In the interest of historical integrity, those words and images have not
>> been removed; but this note is provided to inform viewers in advance of the
>> presence of such content.
>>
>>
>> “Townies”
>> Zoom film presentation
>> Friday, February 4 at 4pm
>>
>>
>> Click on this link to join the Zoom presentation
>> (you will be admitted by the moderator after a short wait in the waiting
>> room):
>> https://zoom.us/j/95507390559?pwd=YnUveE9LcEFRVklyZXgzV3FsbVQwZz09
>> Meeting ID: 955 0739 0559
>> Passcode: 248950
>>
>>
>> Questions? Email runde...@lincolntown.org
>>
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>>
>>
>> On Feb 4, 2022, at 2:24 PM, Rob  wrote:
>>
>> Winter Carnival will begin tomorrow instead of tonight due to the weather.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> 
>>
>> Winter Carnival Weekend Update!
>> Winter Carnival Kickoff Night
>> Cancelled
>> Friday, February 4
>>
>> A Message From The LPTO...
>>
>> Due to the inclement weather, we have to postpone the LPTO kickoff
>> event. You'll still be able to purchase your BINGO scavenger card,
>> though! Stop by to pick up your card for $5, and we'll have regular and
>> gluten-free cookies available for $1, and free hot cocoa (when available).
>>
>> You can now find the LPTO at the following:
>>
>> Saturday
>> 10-12 pm, Town Offices Field
>>  Snow Bowling - we'll be joining MCC to bowl in the snow, catapult floppy
>> fish, and slide down an ice luge!
>>
>> 1- 2:30 pm, Pierce Park
>>  Look for LPTO around the Touch-A-Truck event!
>>
>>
>> Family Night Hike & Owl Prowl (Cancelled)
>>
>> Ice Rink Closed, Friday, February 4. Will reopen Saturday February 5
>>
>> REGISTRATION OPENS FEBRUARY 9!
>>
>> 

Re: [LincolnTalk] Contractor for Deck Repair

[Joan Kimball]

Second Edson. He is terrific. Joan

On Thu, Feb 3, 2022, 9:56 AM ERIC SNYDER  wrote:

> Jay,
> Try to get Edson Delinski if you can.
> He's the best and ha worked for many Licolnites over the past 9 years.
> He has many happy homeowners in Lincoln.
> Edson is copied so he has your email and you have his.
> Good luck!
> Eric
>
> Eric Snyder
> esnyde...@comcast.net
> 423-240-3344 - C
> 781-257-5248 - H
>
> On 02/02/2022 10:24 AM Jay Flanagan  wrote:
>
>
> All – I have a screened in porch that need some repair (more than just
> screens – may require some slight structural improvements) – any
> recommendations on a contractor who might be able to help?  Thanks.
>
>
> Jay
>
> *j...@flanagans.us *
>
>
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>
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Massachusetts will punish suburbs that don't allow apartments near transit.

[Joan Kimball]

I believe that many existing units count.  Could someone please clarify?
Planning Board?

Many of us want to help with the housing crisis in this part of MA. And i
appreciate that there are differing opinions. May we continue to be civil
as we are doing now.

Joan

On Mon, Jan 24, 2022, 7:54 PM Debra Daugherty  wrote:

> I guess I wish they would just take into consideration the housing we
> already have. There are 120 units next to the Hanscom bus stop (Battle Road
> Farm) not to mention all the HAFB units. That's a ton of units. There's a
> lot of open land on the Hanscom Air Field lot right across the street from
> the bus stop, but I'm not sure what the status of that land is. In town we
> have lots of units in Lincoln Woods right next to the train. Not sure why
> that shouldn't count toward our quota.
>
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 7:06 PM Bob Mason  wrote:
>
>> I don't (yet) have a POV on the specifics of this legislation nor the
>> feasibility for Lincoln, but I do wonder about a moral responsibility to
>> reconsider wholesale housing policy in towns like Lincoln.
>>
>> It is my understanding that part of the housing crises that have plagued
>> San Francisco, Los Angeles and other metropolitan regions across the US all
>> have to do with too much NIMBYISM. At some point, for us to have a
>> functional society, we need to rethink our physical infrastructure and how
>> that can create stronger communities, have greater economic impact and
>> reduce environmental pressures.
>>
>> Perhaps the specifics of this legislation is untenable for the
>> geographical constraints of Lincoln, but maybe we need to lean even more
>> into being part of the metropolitan solution.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 6:49 PM Richard Panetta 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Margaret,
>>>
>>>
>>> Would the property near the bus stop be an area of concern as well then?
>>> Or would most of that land be in the National Park district?
>>>
>>> Rich
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 6:45 PM Margaret Olson <
>>> marga...@margaretolson.com> wrote:
>>>
 Sara,
 The original map published in the Squirrel was incorrect. This is my
 fault - I made that map and made a mistake in the GIS. This was brought to
 my attention in the comments; Alice contacted me and she updated the
 article with the corrected map.

 What the updated map shows is that in order to comply we would need to
 rezone some of the current R1 (single family 2 acre) zone that is within a
 half mile of the station. Depending on how the regulations shape up after
 the comment period the town may be facing some difficult choices.

 On the question of the MBTA station - we also have a bus stop, at
 Hanscom. We are a bus service town under the draft rules.

 Margaret

 On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 5:53 PM Sara Mattes  wrote:

> Very interesting, and there will be serious push-back.
>
> Note-"That is the message Massachusetts is sending to 175 cities and
> suburbs in the Boston area, as a bill passed last year to boost housing
> production begins to take effect
> 
> *.** Almost every jurisdiction in eastern Massachusetts, from the New
> Hampshire border to Worcester to the Cape Cod Canal…**”*
>
> Certainly some serious pressure will and should be placed on State
> Reps. once other towns realize the implications.
>
> Lincoln already has grasped the implications.
>
> For Lincoln, as was shown in a recent article in the *Squirrel,* the
> land available, given the map proposed by MAPC and this new
> growth initiative (NOT a mandate), the proposed 750 units would have to 
> fit
> into a very small land mass.
> In order to reach 750 units, we would need to redevelop with 5-6 story
> buildings, at a minimum.
>
> It simply is not feasible.
>
> We should all be contacting our current and future State Reps. to ask
> their positions,  and to explain.
>
> We have regularly added multi
> family housing, including affordable housing to our inventory, and,
> I expect we will continue to do so, but not in this manner.
>
> Sara Mattes
>
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>
>
>
>
> On Jan 24, 2022, at 5:29 PM, Lynne Smith  wrote:
>
> An interesting article for Lincoln.
>
>
> https://slate.com/business/2022/01/massachusetts-zoning-apartments-housing-transit.html
>
>
> Lynne Smith
> 5 Tabor Hill Road
> 
> Lincoln, MA 01773
> 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Too much - or too little - salt on the road

[Joan Kimball]

When I was on the Conservation Commission we were concerned about salt
because of health of the wetlands and protecting our drinking water supply,
all of which is contained and originates in Lincoln.

Joan


On Sun, Jan 16, 2022, 2:34 PM Dennis Liu  wrote:

> Since this seems to be a growing conversation, a couple of points as food
> for thought.
>
>
>
> As with everything else involving politics and public works, we have to
> ask ourselves when considering taking action – “what are the TRADEOFFS for
> taking a proposed action?”  Or “Every benefit has a cost; what is it in
> this case?”
>
>
>
> It’s not only the impact on the town budget (for the salt, and for the DPW
> crew’s time).  It’s also about SAFETY.
>
>
>
> What’s the cost of *avoiding an accident*?  Every year, 1,300 people are
> killed and 116,800 people are injured due to vehicle accidents on snow,
> slushy or icy pavement.  What’s the cost of a life lost, or injury
> suffered?
>
>
>
> What about the cost of damaging or destroying a vehicle – and whatever the
> vehicle hits?  Pedestrians struck in crosswalks or on sidewalks?  Damaged
> telephone poles, buildings, signs, parked cars?
>
>
>
> And let’s not forget the massive associated costs – lawsuits.  Why do
> businesses seemingly always “oversalt” their parking lots, roads and
> paths?  Because it’s a really, really common and easy-to-win lawsuit.  The
> cost of putting down ice melt is a tiny, tiny cost of paying for a lawsuit,
> even with insurance.  Indeed, some insurance policies require plowing and
> salting.
>
>
>
> So, from the Town’s perspective – the “cost” for salting the roads is a
> combination of the actual expense for the salt, the cost for DPW time (and
> amortized expense of running salters), and, arguably, the externality cost
> of having some degree of “excess” salt entering into water.  The “benefit”
> of salting, even salting to “excess”, is the avoidance of lawsuits, and
> avoiding more accidents, causing harm to life, limb and property.
>
>
>
> *Avoiding excessive salting is a good thing!  But if the Town is unable to
> lay down some perceived “perfect” quantity of salt, given the constantly
> changing weather conditions, surely it’d be better to oversalt by some
> degree, given the inherent risks?*
>
>
>
> I urge everyone concerned about this issue to study NOT ONLY the impact of
> road salt on water and wildlife, but also take into account the impact of a
> life lost – perhaps a friend or loved one – as well as the economic impact
> from these accidents.
>
>
>
> HTH,
>
>
>
> --Dennis
>
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[LincolnTalk] Thursday, Dec 9 at 7 Screening of Reconstruction on Zoom. Everyone welcome.

[Joan Kimball]

* Please join FPL Racial Justice Journey for a screening of Reconstruction
by Henry Louis Gates**.*

Screening: Reconstruction, Episode 4

*When:* Thursday, December 9, 2021 @7:00 PM - 9:00 PM

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This Thursday we will be watching the last episode in Henry Louis Gates
*Reconstruction* series (each one is a standalone episode.)  In this
outstanding documentary that brings us into the 20th Century, we will
discover events that have an impact on today including:

·The establishment of the “Lost Cause”

·The placements of confederate monuments

·Regulations concerning what could—and could not—be taught to
school children

·Jim Crow and Black Face

·WEB DuBois and Booker T Washington

·Music

·“Birth of A Nation”

We hope you will join us, and we can consider together Professor Gates's
statement  “reconstruction has never ended.”


This Thursday, on Zoom, 7-9 with the last half hour for discussion.



If you want to see all the episodes of Reconstruction, Robin Rapoport at
the Lincoln Public Library sent us this link.  So click  Here

: America
After the Civil War on Kanopy.
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[LincolnTalk] Tonight! Please join FPL Racial Justice Journey at 7 for screening of Reconstruction: PBS Henry Louis Gates

[Joan Kimball]

The First Parish in Lincoln's Racial Justice Journey continues on *Thursday,
December 2 at 7 PM with a screening of Henry Louis Gates' Reconstruction,
part 1 as shown on PBS.*



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 In our schools, only a few of us learned the truth about reconstruction.
It was often glossed over with stories of the poor destitute south,
carpetbaggers and loss of states' rights.

Professor Gates and other historians, including Heather Coxe Richardson,
show us Reconstruction as an opportunity to live up to our nation's ideals
and a truer Democracy.

In this documentary, we will learn about the

·origins of the “lost cause,"

·meaning of "40 acres and a mule",

·reconstruction ideals of Thaddeus Stephens and the opposing
ones of Andrew Johnson, and the

·  final Betrayal" of 1876 with Rutherford Hayes' closed room deal that
ended reconstruction.


The documentary is beautifully composed with many wonderful photographs and
excellent commentary.


Please join us.
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[LincolnTalk] FPL Racial Justice Journey, Tonight. Zoom at 7

[Joan Kimball]

Thursday, November 18 at 7 PM ……..Please Join US!

*Screening: We Shall Remain, Wounded Knee*

*When:** Thursday, November 18, 2021 @7:00 PM - 9:00 PM*

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The Racial Justice Journey presents a screening of Wounded Knee, 1973. This
is the final episode of the acclaimed PBS American Experience Series called
“We Still Remain.”


 On the night of February 27, 1973, the occupation of Wounded Knee  began.
Demanding redress for grievances—both immediate and some going back more
than 100 years— the protesters captured the world’s attention for 71
gripping days.


The event proved that despite centuries of encroachment, warfare, and
neglect, Native Americans remain a vital force in the life of America.


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Re: [LincolnTalk] Why is Sherman’s Bridge Road’s bridge wooden?

[Joan Kimball]

Lincoln Selects and Jamie Fosburg of the Park service and  Concord Selects.
A real team effort. I was on the Wild and Scenic Committee representing the
Governor at the time. We did get a stone bridge and not what DOT wanted to
put there.

On Sun, Nov 14, 2021, 3:08 PM Rosamond Delori  wrote:

> Sara - we should get John Kerr to write up that saga.  It was quite an
> event, with MA DOT taking the bridge down in the middle of the night, etc,
> etc.
>
> Roz
>
> Rosamond Delori
> 44 Tower Road
> Lincoln, MA 01773
> 781-259-9159 home
> 617-694-0642 cell
> rdel...@mcmxi.com
>
>
> On Nov 14, 2021, at 3:02 PM, Sara Mattes  wrote:
>
> To add to this story-what occurred during my tenure on the BOS.
>
> When Lees Bridge was dismantled for repair, all the original stones were
> salvaged, catalogued and stored in the area, to be used in reconstructing
> the bridge to its former glory.
> Delay after delay prevented an expeditious reconstruction.
> By the time actual work commenced, the stored stones had disappeared.
> Lots of finger pointing ensued.
> It was rumored to be an inside job.
> A new bridge went, not to the original look, as had been promised, and
> certainly not with the original stones.
>
> Sara Mattes
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 14, 2021, at 2:33 PM, Joan Kimball  wrote:
>
> 
>
>
>
> Hi. It is historic on the Sudbury River, a designated Wild and Scenic
> River. During the study to determine designation, it needed repair. A lot
> of Wayland Advocates worked hard to have it repaired as it was, an historic
> bridge. The designation for the river included historic qualities.
>
>  The same when the Lee Bridge on Route 117 needed repair, local advicates,
> the 2 towns and Park Service worked hard to have it restored and not
> replaced by a generic modern bridge.
>
> Joan
>
> On Sun, Nov 14, 2021, 9:51 AM Louis Zipes  wrote:
>
>> I know this is a Wayland bridge but since we use it to get to the high
>> school anyone know why it is a wooden bridge?   Is it to cut down on heavy
>> trucks using it?
>>
>> Any one know the history?  My 22 seconds of searching didn’t reveal the
>> answer.
>>
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[LincolnTalk] Fwd: Why is Sherman’s Bridge Road’s bridge wooden?

[Joan Kimball]

Hi. It is historic on the Sudbury River, a designated Wild and Scenic
River. During the study to determine designation, it needed repair. A lot
of Wayland Advocates worked hard to have it repaired as it was, an historic
bridge. The designation for the river included historic qualities.

 The same when the Lee Bridge on Route 117 needed repair, local advicates,
the 2 towns and Park Service worked hard to have it restored and not
replaced by a generic modern bridge.

Joan

On Sun, Nov 14, 2021, 9:51 AM Louis Zipes  wrote:

> I know this is a Wayland bridge but since we use it to get to the high
> school anyone know why it is a wooden bridge?   Is it to cut down on heavy
> trucks using it?
>
> Any one know the history?  My 22 seconds of searching didn’t reveal the
> answer.
>
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[LincolnTalk] Please join us TONIGHT for Screening of Jill Lepore's Talk on King Philips War. 7 PM Zoom. All invited

[Joan Kimball]

*FPL's Racial Justice Journey, TONIGHT Thursday, November 11 at 7 PM
……..Please Join Us! Screening of Jill Lepore’s talk on King Philip’s war*

Screening: Jill Lepore's Talk on King Philip's War in Massachusetts

*When:* Thursday, November 11, 2021 @7:00 PM



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*Title:  The Name of War: King Philip’s War and Origins of American
Identify*

This 17th century war was devastating to the Colonists (towns west of
Concord were destroyed) and especially so to the Native Americans (large
numbers were killed, removed or enslaved).  Jill Lepore explores early
colonial accounts (the only accounts) and discusses how the narrative of
war was written by the English colonists and retold by their descendants to
help the nation form its identity and achieve its goals.

Jill Lepore is the David Woods Kemper ’41 Professor of American History and
Affiliate Professor of Law at Harvard University. Her many books
include, *These
Truths: A History of the United States* <http://www.thesetruthsbook.com/>
(2018),* and T*he *Name of War*—upon which she based this talk.  The Name
of War  has revised our thinking about King Philip's war and about the uses
of history.

See you tonight. All are welcome!. Joan Kimball for the Racial Justice
Journey
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Re: [LincolnTalk] best places for eyeglasses

[Joan Kimball]

I have gone to Weston Optical in Wayland for years.

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 10:42 AM Bob Kupperstein  wrote:

> We've gotten very good service at Bay State Eye on Moody Street in
> Waltham: https://www.baystateeye.com
>
> Personal, very friendly, knowledgeable service - and they accept all the
> major vision plans.
>
> On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 10:25 AM Leslie Turek 
> wrote:
>
>> I got personalized service (willing to special order something I was
>> looking for) from The Optical Place, around the back at 215 Boston Post Rd,
>> Sudbury.
>> https://www.theopticalplace.com
>> Leslie Turek
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 9:46 AM Ursula Nowak  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Now that I found a new electricain thanks to Lincoln Talk, I am on to
>>> the next thing. I need new glasses and am looking for recommendations of
>>> where to best get them.
>>>
>>> Ursula
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[LincolnTalk] FPL Racial Justice Journey, "The Pilgrims" at 7 tonight on zoom

[Joan Kimball]

*Thursday, November 4 at 7 pm*
Join us as we continue to look at the people who created our history. This
month we are looking at the interactions between the Native Americans and
the Pilgrims.

This PBS American Experience documentary, *The Pilgrims*, illuminates the
English world of the passengers on the Mayflower, the practical, political
and theological considerations that motivated them to undertake their 1620
crossing and the complexities of their first years in America.  This group,
that the documentary calls the least likely to succeed in settling a
nation, against all odds, established a colony.  According to Jill Lepore,
one of the historians featured in this documentary, this story erases other
histories, and becomes our story.

And today, we are searching to hear all the voices.

*in Zoom Meeting*
https://zoom.us/j/92930897192?pwd=S1NWUy9kVGVZbFlqUVlIY3pabDN5Zz09

Meeting ID: 929 3089 7192
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[LincolnTalk] FYI: 3 Talks about Racial Justice: Don Hafner, Ray Shepard and Elise Lemire

[Joan Kimball]

Three outstanding talks:

1.* Tonight*, sponsored by First Parish Racial Justice Journey and Lincoln
Historical Society.7 P.M. on zoom

*Don Hafner: Entangled Lives: Black and White. Lincoln and It's African
American Residents in the 18th Century*.

Zoom Link:
Join the event here:
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2. In response to questions about how to view the recording of *Ray
Shepard's talk " How to Talk About Race in a Time of Critical Race Theory
Pushback,"* given as part of the First Parish Racial Justice Journey on
Thursday, October 21.


https://www.fplincoln.org/posts/how-do-we-talk-about-race-in-a-time-of-crt-pushback/
.




3. And for those who missed the Juneteenth  Bemis Lecture given by *Elise
Lemire entitled,"**Slave History of Lincoln Massachusetts: Sponosored by
Bemis Free Lecture Series on Juneteenth can be found on youtube **at**:
 **https://youtu.be/zEaXkTHSBd0 *
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[LincolnTalk] Ray Shepard's Talk on Thursday October 21st hosted by the FPL Racial Justice Journey

[Joan Kimball]

Please join us on zoom tonight at 7 on zoom!

WHAT: Ray Shepard's talk on "How do we talk about race in a time of
critical race theory pushback?" And time for discussion.

WHEN: Tonight at 7:00 p.m.

HOW : Zoom: to find link go to fplincoln.org/calendar. Click on date and
7:00 talk.

HOST: First Parish in Lincoln Racial Justice.

Please join us!

*Ray Anthony Shepard* –educator, writer and FPL member-- will speak on *“How
do we talk about race in a time of Critical Race Theory pushback?” *

Following his talk, Ray has generously agreed to participate in a
wide-ranging discussion of his work as historian and interpreter of African
American experiences in his award-winning 2017 *Now or Never! 54th
Massachusetts Infantry’s War to End Slavery* and his 2021 poetic retelling
for young readers of the story of a woman enslaved by the Washington family
in *Runaway: The Daring Escape of Ona Judge*.

“I write,” Ray explains on his web page, “for readers who understand the
universal need for fairness” and “to tell a fuller story of our country’s
history.”

The session will also provide room for reflection on

--themes related to Ray’s work, as they appear in the film *Harriet* and in

-- books included in our Suggested Reading syllabus: Erica Armstrong
Dunbar’s *Never Caught: The Washington’s’ Relentless Pursuit of Their
Runaway Slave Ona Judge.*

 To find the link to this zoom meeting, go to fplincoln.org/calendar and
click on October 21 and Ray’s talk.
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Re: [LincolnTalk] We are about to get redistricted… again… maybe… probably

[Joan Kimball]

Hi.  Do you or anyonevknow about our Congress district also?   Thanks,
Sara, for telling us about implications for state legislature.

Joan

On Thu, Oct 14, 2021, 8:20 AM Sara Mattes  wrote:

> The proposed State *HOUSE* map has us joined with Weston and a part of
> Needham and become Norfolk 14.
> Weston would hold the majority of the votes so I would imagine Alice
> Peisch would hold her current seat.
> https://malegislature.gov/Legislators/Profile/AHP1
>
> The proposed Senate district would include Chelmsford, Carlisle, Concord,
> Lincoln, Waltham, Weston and a portion of Lexington…which may indicate
> Sen.Barrett would remain as our State Senator.
>
>
>
> On Oct 13, 2021, at 3:16 PM, Barbara Low  wrote:
>
> I'm not a great map reader. If we are to be redistricted, with which towns
> would we share a rep? And who is that rep now?
>
> Barbara
> --
> *From:* Lincoln  on behalf of Bob
> Kupperstein 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 13, 2021 2:35 PM
> *To:* Sara Mattes 
> *Cc:* Lincoln Talk 
> *Subject:* Re: [LincolnTalk] We are about to get redistricted… again…
> maybe… probably
>
> I've been hoping to see this; tacking us on to Waltham made us pretty
> irrelevant.
>
> -Bob
>
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 2:01 PM Sara Mattes  wrote:
>
>
>
> https://www.politico.com/f/?id=017c-7809-dddc-a77e-7d9b840d&nname=massachusetts-playbook&nid=014f-704c-d54c-a1ff-fb6da68f&nrid=014f-8419-d12f-a1df-dcdfdcba0005&nlid=630384
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[LincolnTalk] Screening of "Harriet" at First Parish on Zoom Thursday, October 14 at 7

[Joan Kimball]

 The First Parish Racial Justice Advocates invites you to join us for a
screening of  Harriet about Harriet Tubman on Thursday, October 14 st 7 on
zoom. This film takes us a step further on our Racial Justice Journey.  To
find the link go to  *https://www.fplincoln.org/calendar
*/ Hope you can join us!


*Harriet* is a 2019 American *biographical film*
* directed by **Kasi
Lemmons* *, Harriet had its
world premiere at the **Toronto International Film Festival*
* on
September 10, 2019The film received several accolades and nominations,
particularly for Erivo's performance as Harriet, which garnered her
nominations at the **Academy Awards*
*, **Golden
Globes*
*,
and the **Screen Actors *


*From the Smithsonian Magazine: *
*Harriet Tubman’s first act as a free woman was poignantly simple. As
she later told biographer  Sarah
Bradford, after crossing the Pennsylvania state boundary line in September
1849, “I looked at my hands to see if I was the same person. There was such
a glory over everything; the sun came like gold through the trees, and over
the fields, and I felt like I was in Heaven.”*

*The future Underground Railroad conductor’s next thoughts were of her
family. “I was free,” she recalled, “but there was no one to welcome me to
the land of freedom. I was a stranger in a strange land; and my home after
all, was down in Maryland; because my father, my mother, my brothers, and
sisters, and friends were there.”*
*Tubman dedicated the next decade of her life—a period chronicled
in Harriet , to rescuing her family
from bondage. Between 1850 and 1860, she returned to Maryland some 13
times, helping around 70 people
—including four of
her brothers, her parents and a niece—escape slavery and embark on new
lives.*
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[LincolnTalk] Screening of Traces of the Trade is at 7:00 (not 7:30 as in last title) on September 30

[Joan Kimball]

The First Parish Racial Justice Advocates invites you to see the remarkable
film "Traces of the Trade: a Story from the Deep North. "

When:  *Thursday, September 30  at 7 P.M.*

What: Screening of this film that candidly traces a RI family's history
with the Triangle Trade and slavery.  We learn their history,watch them as
they follow the route of the  triangle trade to Ghana, Cuba and Rhode
Island and see a family reacting to the past and the present. Very
thought-provoking. We hope you will join us.

How:  Zoom.  To get the link, go to www.fplincoln.org.  and either go to
the calendar and click on Traces of the Trade and you will get the link.
The link is also under events.


“*Traces of the Trade: A Story from the Deep North* chronicles the journey
of nine descendants of the largest slave-trading family in the United
States, as they probe the history of their New England ancestors and
confront the contemporary legacies of slavery. The documentary follows
producer/director Katrina Browne as she and her family travel to Rhode
Island, Ghana, and Cuba to retrace the notorious Triangle Trade – and
search for the hidden history of their family, the region, and the nation.
Traces of the Trade exposes New England’s deep involvement in the slave
trade and shows how slavery was a cornerstone of the region’s commercial
life. Together with the DeWolf family descendants, viewers will have the
opportunity to grapple with the history and modern consequences of slavery,
the corrosive role of silence in contemporary conversations about race,
issues of white privilege and guilt, and questions of response, repair, and
reparations. For more information about the film, please visit
http://www.tracesofthetrade.org/.”

Joan Kimball for FPL's Racial Justice Advocates



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[LincolnTalk] FPL invites you to a screening of Traces of the Trade Thursday, September 30 at 7:30

[Joan Kimball]

The First Parish Racial Justice Advocates invites you to see the remarkable
film "Traces of the Trade: a Story from the Deep North. "

When:  Thursday, September 30  at 7 P.M.

What: Screening of this film that candidly traces a RI family's history
with the Triangle Trade and slavery.  We learn their history,watch them as
they follow the route of the  triangle trade to Ghana, Cuba and Rhode
Island and see a family reacting to the past and the present. Very
thought-provoking. We hope you will join us.

How:  Zoom.  To get the link, go to www.fplincoln.org.  and either go to
the calendar and click on Traces of the Trade and you will get the link.
The link is also under events.


“*Traces of the Trade: A Story from the Deep North* chronicles the journey
of nine descendants of the largest slave-trading family in the United
States, as they probe the history of their New England ancestors and
confront the contemporary legacies of slavery. The documentary follows
producer/director Katrina Browne as she and her family travel to Rhode
Island, Ghana, and Cuba to retrace the notorious Triangle Trade – and
search for the hidden history of their family, the region, and the nation.
Traces of the Trade exposes New England’s deep involvement in the slave
trade and shows how slavery was a cornerstone of the region’s commercial
life. Together with the DeWolf family descendants, viewers will have the
opportunity to grapple with the history and modern consequences of slavery,
the corrosive role of silence in contemporary conversations about race,
issues of white privilege and guilt, and questions of response, repair, and
reparations. For more information about the film, please visit
http://www.tracesofthetrade.org/.”

Joan Kimball for FPL's Racial Justice Advocates
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[LincolnTalk] Please join the First Parish Lincoln's Racial Justice Journey tomorrow at 7 P.M. for a screening

[Joan Kimball]

Dear Friends,

We hope you can join us Thursday night (9/23/2021) to watch "After the
Mayflower," at 7:00.  Following the screening, we will have a half hour for
discussion.

 *In this PBS American Experience episode, “After the Mayflower, *we will
see the  interactions of these two peoples, the colonists and the Wampanoag
(the “People of the First Light).  (The documentary brings us several
historians, such as Jill Lepore and Jean O’Brien, Ojibwe, and modern day
Native Americans who share their insights.)

 You will find the link for this screening at www.fplincoln.org  by going
on the Calendar for September 23 and clicking on "After the Mayflower."

--Joan Kimball for the FPL Racial Justice Journey
 
***
"After the Mayflower" is the first episode of "We Shall Remain".  The
Lincoln Librarians report that we are able to watch  all five episodes of
the PBS series *We Shall Remain *on Kanopy here
<https://lincolnpl.kanopy.com/video/we-shall-remain>. Please let
the Library staff  know if they can be of help with using Kanopy! You can
either call the reference desk at 781-259-8465 ext 204 or email
linc...@minlib.net.
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[LincolnTalk] Screening "I Am Not Your Negro" Thursday September 9 at 7-9 P.M. on Zoom

[Joan Kimball]

*The Racial Justice Advocates of the First Parish Church invites you to
join us in two zoom meetings as part of our James Baldwin Summer events.*

*September 9:  I am Not Your Negro.* The Zoom link can be found at under
events at *https://www.fplincoln.org/rja/ <https://www.fplincoln.org/rja/>*

>From the New York Times (2-2017): … the film..."*I Am Not Your Negro* is a
thrilling introduction to [Baldwin's] work, a remedial course in American
history, and an advanced seminar in racial politics — a concise, roughly
90-minute movie with the scope and impact of a 10-hour mini-series or a
literary doorstop. It is not an easy or a consoling movie, but it is the
opposite of bitter or despairing." And Baldwin said “I can’t be a pessimist
because I’m alive...I’m forced to be an optimist." The movie lasts 90
minutes, and we will have a half hour discussion afterwards.  Hope you will
join us!
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  September 16: Go Tell it on the Mountain. The zoom link can be found
under events at *https://www.fplincoln.org/rja/
<https://www.fplincoln.org/rja/>*

 Baldwin’s first novel is considered his finest. Based on the author’s
experiences as a teenaged preacher in a small revivalist church, the novel
describes two days and a long night in the life of the Grimes family,
particularly 14-year-old John and his stepfather, Gabriel. It is a classic
of contemporary African American literature
<https://www.britannica.com/art/African-American-literature>.

This last meeting  of the James Baldwin Summer will provide a discussion of
this book and  opportunities for reflection on all we have learned during
the James Baldwin Summer.


* Please join us!  *

Joan Kimball for the Racial Justice Advocates
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Coyotes

[Joan Kimball]

And we have had coyotes for years and years. About 15 years ago, I held a
staff retreat at my house. Suddenly all the biologists looked especially
alert. Four coyotes ran through our yard!  The highlight of the yearly
planning retreat for these scientists.

And this was before the chickens.

Joan



On Sat, Aug 21, 2021, 11:42 AM Burch - Mudry Realty Team <
realest...@concordmass.com> wrote:

> Codman Farm had had chickens for years.
>
> Marilyn Mudry -
> Keller Williams Realty Boston NW
> BurchMudry.KW.com
> Email: realest...@concordmass.com
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 21, 2021, at 11:01 AM, Margo Fisher-Martin <
> margo.fisher.mar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Those have always been a lure, but Codman does a great job of keeping them
> penned. They are all over town now and often loose.
>
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 10:56 AM DAVIDA LOEWENSTEIN 
> wrote:
>
>> If chickens are an attraction, could Codman’s fields of free range
>> chickens be contributing to the apparent recent increased sighting of
>> coyotes?
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Aug 21, 2021, at 10:28 AM, Margo Fisher-Martin <
>> margo.fisher.mar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Yes. If you have chickens, please keep them penned. Free range chickens
>> are a huge attraction and many people in Lincoln have chickens now.
>> Thanks!
>> Cookie Martin
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 10:20 AM Stephanie Smoot <
>> stephanieesm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Other than watching our pets and general avoidance, do we need to do
>>> anything else?  We have tons of chipmunks and rabbits around here.I'd
>>> be happy if the coyotes managed the problem.
>>>
>>> *Stephanie Smoot*
>>>
>>> 857 368-9175  work
>>> 781 941-6842  personal cell
>>> *617 595-5217 *work cell
>>> 126 Chestnut Circle
>>> 
>>> Lincoln, MA 01773
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 9:56 AM melinda bruno-smith <
>>> melindabr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Yes, earlier this week, as I was leaving Lincoln Mall parking lot, I
 saw a coyote en route front Clark
 Gallery to Station Park …

 melinda

 Sent from my iPhone
 Melinda Bruno-Smith




 On Aug 21, 2021, at 9:30 AM, Burch - Mudry Realty Team <
 realest...@concordmass.com> wrote:

 Good Morning,
 On Tuesday Evening, 7:15, I parked at the Lincoln Cemetery for a walk
 on the conservation trails nearby.  After several minutes of walking
 towards the far side of the farmland, I heard first one, then two then 6?
 7? Coyotes nearby in the woods, just out of sight:  barking and howling.
 Needless to say I, and my 9 lb. poodle, ran back to the car!
 My 100 lb. German Shepherd recently passed so, I don’t think I’ll be
 going out at dusk anymore on the trails with my little one.
 Enjoy this day.
 Marilyn


 From: Lincoln  On Behalf Of Lisa
 Cummings via Lincoln
 Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2021 8:24 AM
 To: Rich Rosenbaum 
 Cc: LincolnTalk.org 
 Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Coyote Todd Pond Rd

 Two days in a row early afternoon in our backyard in North Lincoln:(
 [cid:image001.jpg@01D7966E.E7034880]
 Sent from my iPhone


 On Aug 21, 2021, at 8:04 AM, Rich Rosenbaum >>> r...@bcdef.com>> wrote:
 
 I've seen a coyote midday in south Lincoln a few times recently. One
 time it was walking down the train tracks with a cat-sized animal in its
 jaws (I didn't get a close look). You may want to keep an eye on your
 outdoor cats.

 I've attached a picture of it going down Lewis Street.

 Rich

 [cid:image002.jpg@01D7966E.E7034880]

 On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 11:01 AM Susan Taylor >>> > wrote:
 Coyote at 43 Todd pond Rd
 
 11 AM Friday. Looks healthy & at ease

 Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are codman farm goods so expensive

[Joan Kimball]

Yes, but Whole Foods can price lower because of quantity. You can see it in
food and flower prices.  They are a national chain.  Codman and local
farmers have  locally grown food.  Farm staff  need to be paid fairly for
this labor intensive food. And so we can choose, as Sara says.



On Wed, Jul 14, 2021, 9:16 AM Anne Warner  wrote:

> Stepping back from the commentary for a moment:  my sister was up visiting
> me in Lincoln recently, and I took her by Codman Farms.  She looked at the
> pricing, and was actually pretty shocked.  The prices were so much higher
> than even the most expensive of the local markets (Whole Foods) for
> identical foods, including organic items.  Her comment was "I guess I
> shouldn't be surprised. This is Lincoln, after all."  Really gave me
> pause
>
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 9:10 AM Margaret Olson 
> wrote:
>
>> Out of curiosity, I looked at images of chicken for sale at butcher shops
>> in the early 40s (pre-factory farmed chicken). Then I compared 1940 prices
>> to current prices...and discovered that Codman Farm chicken is almost
>> exactly the same price as chicken was in the 1940s.
>>
>> Chicken was once Sunday dinner food. It was, like Codman's chicken,
>> flavorful and delicious. I looked and looked for pasture raised chicken and
>> used to buy it from Whole Foods when they occasionally had it. I am SOOO
>> happy that Codman has real chicken almost all the time. I strongly urge you
>> all to try it, and just stop buying factory chicken. If you want a bland
>> protein on which to impart other flavors use tofu. It is expensive - a
>> problem we solved by eating much less meat. Better for our health, better
>> for the environment, and the chickens lead a natural chicken life. If you
>> care at all about the treatment of animals that alone is a reason to avoid
>> anything except pasture raised chicken.
>>
>> "Organic" chicken is factory chicken that has been fed organic feed. One
>> of the Michael Pollan books (apologies, I forget which one) described an
>> "organic" chicken farm. It wasn't pretty - basically treating the building
>> like a clean room.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 8:44 AM Lincoln Historical Society <
>> lincolnmahistoricalsoci...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Given all Adam has described, yes indeed!
>>>
>>> You have many choices - meat and chicken produced at large, factory
>>> farms, will of course be cheaper.
>>> Any meat/chicken sold through chain stores will be cheaper.
>>> You have that choice -it is locally available at Donelans, Market
>>> Basket, Costco.
>>> It is your choice.
>>>
>>> You get what you pay for.
>>>
>>> Sara
>>>
>>> > On Jul 13, 2021, at 8:58 AM, garrick niemiec <
>>> gniem...@illinoisalumni.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Adam
>>> >
>>> > What about the frozen chicken and beef...reasonable?
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