lingo-l 'silent' video installs?

2005-05-19 Thread julian weaver
Hi,
I have a client looking for video playback without having the user go 
through the video installation.

Despite the norms of not installing software without explicitly 
informing the user, has anyone done this installation for eitther 
windows media or quicktime?

thanks
Julian
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RE: lingo-l 'silent' video installs?

2005-05-19 Thread Johan Verhoeven
you could do it using QT. 

If you use the standalone player you can place an ini file next to it
(QuickTimeInstaller.ini) containing:

[QTSETUP] 
license_option=0 
no_dialogs=true 
registration_dialog=false 
supress_speed_dialog=true 
install_qtjava=false 
install_qd3d=true 
show_sample=false 
show_readme=false 
show_programfolder=false 
install_qtinfo=true 


That would give you a silent install if you launch it in the background.
Although I don't think Apple is allowing you to use the installer in
such a way..

J.


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Hi,

I have a client looking for video playback without having the user go 
through the video installation.

Despite the norms of not installing software without explicitly 
informing the user, has anyone done this installation for eitther 
windows media or quicktime?

thanks

Julian

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Re: lingo-l 'silent' video installs?

2005-05-19 Thread ifmp
RE: 
 I have a client looking for video playback without having the user go
 through the video installation.
-

Use Flash - Flash MX (.flv) video. The video can run inside a .swf file with
other video, images, graphics, etc, and used as a Flash Sprite in Director.

- 
 Despite the norms of not installing software without explicitly
 informing the user, has anyone done this installation for eitther
 windows media or quicktime?
-

If you go with Flash Video in this case, you won't have to install anything.
And if this is running off a CD or desktop, you could even crank the quality
settings for the .flv file high enough to get decent-looking video in
comparison to QuickTime/Sorenson or Windows Media Video.



Steve Bennett
www.ifmp.net








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Re: lingo-l 'silent' video installs?

2005-05-19 Thread julian weaver
That's the (illegal) ticket. thanks Johan.
thanks all for your advice.
On 19 May 2005, at 08:18, Johan Verhoeven wrote:
you could do it using QT.
If you use the standalone player you can place an ini file next to it
(QuickTimeInstaller.ini) containing
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Re: lingo-l 'silent' video installs?

2005-05-19 Thread arjen
definately flash!
it's amazing how high quality video you can get,
especially if you have/own (and use) Sorenson Squeeze.
arri
On 19 mei 2005, at 09:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Use Flash - Flash MX (.flv) video. The video can run inside a .swf 
file with
other video, images, graphics, etc, and used as a Flash Sprite in 
Director.
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Re: lingo-l castmember creation sometimes fails ..

2005-05-19 Thread arjen
yes, this was indeed the problem.
actually two parentscripts were of type moviescript.
thanks again
arri
On 18 mei 2005, at 02:45, arjen wrote:
thanks for respons,
what irv writes could be possible cause,
i'll look into that tomorrow, it happened to me before that i created 
a new script, not looking if i was actually creating a parentscript or 
movie-script..
although i'm afraid this isn't the problem this time, because in the 
same script it sometimes works, and sometimes doesn't. my logics tell 
me that this movie-script-thing is the cause, it should be 
consistent.. but i'll see tomorrow.

and roymeo; i don't really understand what you mean, since the text 
new(#text) is hardcoded in the lingo.
and besides: it also fails when i test it in the message window, where 
it otherwise will also work for me..

it's just as if Director is in a bad mood sometimes..
arri
On 13 mei 2005, at 00:01, Irv Kalb wrote:
This happens when you have what you think is a parent script, but 
it's really a movie script instead.  In this script you will find 
that you have a new handler.  Since it is really a movie level 
handler, you are calling it when you call new and trying to generate 
a new bitmap, rather than the Director new handler.

Go through your scripts and change the one (or ones) that are set to 
be movie scripts to parent scripts and everything should work fine.

(Tripped over this many times myself)
Irv
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lingo-l Syntax of lingo question

2005-05-19 Thread Yvan Caron \(Alphatek\)
I have noticied in many posts recently that people prefix some lingo statements 
with an underscore like in _movie.???. Is this sysntax used only with the most 
rescent version of Director ? BTW, I am using Director MX, the version before 
MX 2004.

Thanks

  - Yvan

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Re: lingo-l Syntax of lingo question

2005-05-19 Thread Colin Holgate
At 9:23 AM -0400 5/19/05, Yvan Caron \(Alphatek\) wrote:
I have noticied in many posts recently that people prefix some lingo 
statements with an underscore like in _movie.???. Is this sysntax 
used only with the most rescent version of Director ? BTW, I am 
using Director MX, the version before MX 2004.
Yes it is, and like the help system in MX 2004, many people don't 
mind only giving a syntax example that requires MX 2004. I'm only 
just past the point where I'll often use dot syntax in my examples!

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Re: lingo-l Syntax of lingo question

2005-05-19 Thread Alex da Franca
Am 19.05.2005 um 15:23 schrieb Yvan Caron ((Alphatek)):
I have noticied in many posts recently that people prefix some  
lingo statements with an underscore like in _movie.???. Is this  
sysntax used only with the most rescent version of Director ? BTW,  
I am using Director MX, the version before MX 2004.
yes, this is part of the new DOM syntax introduced with D10.
you can't use it with D9.
---
  |||
a¿ex
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Re: lingo-l StartMovie Problem

2005-05-19 Thread Rob Romanek
Did prepareMovie always exist? Deep in my memory I seem to remember only 
startMovie at some point. And I thought that preparemovie was introduced 
to get rid of some of these problems. It seems that the order of events is 
that sprites initialize themselves prior to startMovie. As a result you 
see the beginsprite handler fired prior to startMovie on sprites in frame 
1. PrepareMovie fires before anything else that's why it is good practice 
to put all your variable initialization here and not in startMovie. Then 
any beginsprite scripts can use those variables without choking.

Eliminating frame 1 would not be the cure since as I mentioned yesterday 
you get the same problem with intermovie navigation if you specifically 
jump to a frame other than 1. It all comes down to the sequence of events. 
As long as any dependancies in your beginsprite code have be set up in 
prepareMovie and not startMovie you should be okay

If you set up the movieevent traps in your timeout objects and follow the 
above rule I don't think you'll run into any problems with sprites on 
frame 1. Okay here is a possible problem scenario.

You have sprites on frame 1 that have beginsprite which manipulate some 
variable you set up in prepareMovie, but you startMovie handler has a 
go(someFrame) and because of that you thought frame 1 is skipped all 
together and won't affect your variable set in prepareMovie so you jump to 
someFrame only to find your variable to not be what you expected it to be.

I think it all boils down to planning.
But I have no idea about the inner workings in Director I can only make 
best guesses by observing what happens on the outside. (Boy this is 
amazingly similar to my previous career in biochemistry/cell biology where 
I used to poke cells with electrodes run some current, see what happened 
and made best guesses as to what was going on inside the cell)

-Rob
On Thu, 19 May 2005 08:41:30 -0400, Mentor, Kraig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since the problem was so deep, there was, at one time, discussion of
changing the score, so that frame one just didnt exist anymore on the
Director interface. It would just have been moved off to the left with
frame 2 becoming the new frame one.
K

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RE: lingo-l Open pdf to specific page

2005-05-19 Thread Mendelsohn, Michael
Forgive me list, I figured it out.  I had the params coming after the
file, but the params need to come after the app.

RIGHT: theApp  /A page=8  thePath
WRONG: theApp  thePath  /A page=8

I would have checked the archives, but it seems like Lingo-L search
archives isn't working.  Oh well.

Have a great day all you lingo Darths,
- MM


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Re: lingo-l Syntax of lingo question

2005-05-19 Thread Rob Romanek
Yes this is MX2004 syntax. I would highly recommend the upgrade to MX2004. 
I was using 8.5 prior to this version, I dabled with MX but found it did 
not give me any significant features for the upgrade. However I personally 
find the changes to MX2004 well worth it. I very much like to use the new 
DOM (director object model) and my brain has slipped into that gear quite 
naturally.

So Colin, sorry that my posts tend to slip into that syntax first. I guess 
the problem is I'm not set in my ways.

-Rob
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Re: lingo-l Open pdf to specific page

2005-05-19 Thread Stephen Ingrum
from a BuddyAPI forum post
In recent versions of Acrobat, I don't think you can do it- unless you 
are running acrobat in a web page (which it sounds like you are not 
doing). This is the best answer I found in a brief web search:

http://www.acrotips.com/acrofaq/general/index.php
There are non-BuddyAPI ways of doing it, though. Integration New Media 
make a few plugins for acrobat (PDFXtra and Impressario). They both 
allow you to actually create a pdf sprite on the Director stage, as 
opposed to in a separate application window. And you can control the 
page displayed through lingo (along with a whole host of other pdf settings)
/from BuddyAPI forum post

Or, using BuddyApi-
You can always open it normally and then send the following keys 
Ctl-shift-N, PageNumber, Enter

HTH,
Stephen
Mendelsohn, Michael wrote the following on 5/19/2005 9:15 AM:
Hi list...
[WinXP, Acrobat6, MX2004]
I'm having trouble opening a pdf to a specific page, and I used to be
able to do this.  Here's my code:
theApp = baShortFileName(baFindApp(pdf))
-- C:\PROGRA~1\Adobe\ACROBA~1.0\Reader\AcroRd32.exe (opens Acrobat
from Start|Run...)
thePath = baShortFileName(thePath)
-- F:\UNIVER~1\articles\PERIOD~1\RECORD~1.PDF (opens doc in Acrobat
from Start|Run...)
theAppString = theApp  thePath  /A page=8
-- C:\PROGRA~1\Adobe\ACROBA~1.0\Reader\AcroRd32.exe
F:\UNIVER~1\articles\PERIOD~1\RECORD~1.PDF /A page=8
theResult = baRunProgram(theAppString, Normal, FALSE)
-- Acrobat Reader Error: There was an error opening this document.  The
path does not exist.
Huh?  theApp and theAppString, without openingParams, both work, so why
not here with the /A command line switch?
puzzled,
- Michael M.
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Re: lingo-l Open pdf to specific page

2005-05-19 Thread Stephen Ingrum
d'oh... yes, of course that works too ;)
I'll forward it to the buddy forum
Stephen
Mendelsohn, Michael wrote the following on 5/19/2005 10:12 AM:
Forgive me list, I figured it out.  I had the params coming after the
file, but the params need to come after the app.
RIGHT: theApp  /A page=8  thePath
WRONG: theApp  thePath  /A page=8
I would have checked the archives, but it seems like Lingo-L search
archives isn't working.  Oh well.
Have a great day all you lingo Darths,
- MM
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Re: lingo-l Open pdf to specific page

2005-05-19 Thread Bertil Flink
This is what may have been in the archives, it's my reply the last time this 
was asked:


 8 -
OK, I did some tests in the message window based on the info in this doc:
http://partners.adobe.com/asn/acrobat/sdk/public/docs/PDFOpenParams.pdf


(baFindApp(pdf) gves the path to Acrobat, if installed)

Message window test

theApp = baShortFileName(baFindApp(pdf))

theDoc = baShortFileName(pathtopdfdocument\mydoc.pdf)

theArgs =  /A page=5 

open theApp  theArgs  theDoc

/Message window test

This worked just fine and opened the pdf file on page 5.

 8 -



Bertil Flink
Creative Media



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- Original Message - 
From: Stephen Ingrum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lingo programming discussion list lingo-l@lists.fcgnetworks.net
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: lingo-l Open pdf to specific page


 d'oh... yes, of course that works too ;)
 
 I'll forward it to the buddy forum
 
 Stephen
 
 
 Mendelsohn, Michael wrote the following on 5/19/2005 10:12 AM:
 
 Forgive me list, I figured it out.  I had the params coming after the
 file, but the params need to come after the app.
 
 RIGHT: theApp  /A page=8  thePath
 WRONG: theApp  thePath  /A page=8
 
 I would have checked the archives, but it seems like Lingo-L search
 archives isn't working.  Oh well.
 
 Have a great day all you lingo Darths,
 - MM
 

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Re: lingo-l Open pdf to specific page

2005-05-19 Thread Bertil Flink
Yes, the order of the arguments (of which the document itself is the second) is 
obviously important.

Come to think of it, switches are usually the first arguments, aren't they?
I may be wrong, but I can live with that... (-;



Bertil Flink
Creative Media


- Original Message - 
From: Mendelsohn, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lingo programming discussion list lingo-l@lists.fcgnetworks.net
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:43 PM
Subject: RE: lingo-l Open pdf to specific page


 That's exactly it, Bertil.  Thanks again.  The only thing I think that's
 a bit odd about the command line switch is that the switch and its
 params comes follows the executable, not the document.  It just seems
 odd to me that the computer reads in the path to the exe and go to page
 5, presumably before the path to the document is read in.  But, as long
 as it works, I'll leave well enough alone.

 - MM

 (baFindApp(pdf) gves the path to Acrobat, if installed)

 Message window test

 theApp = baShortFileName(baFindApp(pdf))

 theDoc = baShortFileName(pathtopdfdocument\mydoc.pdf)

 theArgs =  /A page=5 

 open theApp  theArgs  theDoc


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Re: lingo-l Open pdf to specific page

2005-05-19 Thread Bertil Flink
Oh, just something that may go unnoticed depending on how your mail is 
formatted.

Note the spaces padding the argument string:
theArgs =  /A page=5 

Better (as you may have figured out already):

theArgs = /A page=5
open theApp  theArgs  theDoc



Bertil Flink
Creative Media




  8 -
 OK, I did some tests in the message window based on the info in this doc:
 http://partners.adobe.com/asn/acrobat/sdk/public/docs/PDFOpenParams.pdf
 
 
 (baFindApp(pdf) gves the path to Acrobat, if installed)
 
 Message window test
 
 theApp = baShortFileName(baFindApp(pdf))
 
 theDoc = baShortFileName(pathtopdfdocument\mydoc.pdf)
 
 theArgs =  /A page=5 
 
 open theApp  theArgs  theDoc
 
 /Message window test
 
 This worked just fine and opened the pdf file on page 5.
 
  8 -
 
 
 
 Bertil Flink
 Creative Media
 

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Re: lingo-l StartMovie Problem

2005-05-19 Thread Mauricio Piacentini
Did prepareMovie always exist? Deep in my memory I seem to remember only 
startMovie at some point. And I thought that preparemovie was introduced 
to get rid of some of these problems. It seems that the order of events is 

I think it all boils down to planning.
But I have no idea about the inner workings in Director I can only make 
best guesses by observing what happens on the outside. 
You might be right if you consider only Lingo, but some of these subtle 
issues affect C++ code inside Xtras (3rd party or from Macromedia.) The 
internal MOA interface does not have a prepareMovie, the MOA 
sprite/asset events are the same since Director 5.  Xtra sprites are 
initialized in paused state when on frame 1, among other differences. I 
understand that a fix would potentially break existing content as well, 
so...

I don't think there is an easy way out for this issue, or MM would 
certainly have implemented it so far (having an invisible frame 1 on the 
score was a suggestion at some point in the past, but it could break 
stuff like score recording IIRC.) I remember discussing frame 1 issues 
with engineers since D5, and they are still around today. Nowadays I 
just assume everyone is aware of problems with content in frame 1 and 
start placing scripts and Xtra sprites on frame 2...

Regards,
Mauricio Piacentini
Tabuleiro
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Re: lingo-l StartMovie Problem

2005-05-19 Thread Rob Romanek
Hi Mauricio,
Thanks for that info. I never do put any sprites in frame 1 but have been 
burned by not remembering the event order during inter-movie navigation 
and I think that's what I ulitmately wanted to point out that it is not 
just a frame 1 issue but a _first_ frame issue and event order planning is 
important to sort that out.

I most definitely never have any xtra sprites sitting in frame 1 so I've 
never thought about the problem from the xtra point of view. Even with 
internavigation movies I don't think I ever navigate directly to a frame 
holding an xtra sprite, I assume that would cause the same kind of grief 
and an invisible frame 1 would not fix the issue in that case either.

-Rob
On Thu, 19 May 2005 14:17:30 -0300, Mauricio Piacentini 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You might be right if you consider only Lingo, but some of these subtle 
issues affect C++ code inside Xtras (3rd party or from Macromedia.) The 
internal MOA interface does not have a prepareMovie, the MOA 
sprite/asset events are the same since Director 5.  Xtra sprites are 
initialized in paused state when on frame 1, among other differences. I 
understand that a fix would potentially break existing content as well, 
so...

I don't think there is an easy way out for this issue, or MM would 
certainly have implemented it so far (having an invisible frame 1 on the 
score was a suggestion at some point in the past, but it could break 
stuff like score recording IIRC.) I remember discussing frame 1 issues 
with engineers since D5, and they are still around today. Nowadays I 
just assume everyone is aware of problems with content in frame 1 and 
start placing scripts and Xtra sprites on frame 2...

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lingo-l Thanks For keeping it alive

2005-05-19 Thread Zebin Ayinikat
Hi Tab
 Thanks for keeping this List alive...I once had a nasty problem
..which was solved by one of the list members..Its time like when you
face a dead end the list comes to save you
thanks

Z

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