RE: lingo-l mission impossible!
Hi Pascal. Depends on what level of expertise you need to attain in the mentioned six months... I personally needed 1 month to get around. Another month to start asking my supervisor annoying questions. The learning curve is not steep, starting out with any real programming language (Java, C++) is a fair deal harder. But even after more than four years I still am not fully satisfied with my skills... Pekka -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pascal Deraed Sent: 23. heinäkuuta 2003 11:37 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: lingo-l mission impossible! hi there! (excuse my english) How hard is Lingo! Is it a dum idea to want to study it and become good at it? I´ve got six mounth to make it. I just want to be sure before i start. Please tell me what you think!! thanks in advanced /pascal [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/LUJ/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!] [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/LUJ/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l mission impossible!
well thanks Pekka! In another words , you think it will be very hard for me to make it. Do you mean that it is almost impossible without any programming knowledge? I´ve got to start somewhere! I´ve got six mounth, full time. I won´t need to become world champion after those six mounth but i least understand what i´m doing and be able to do stuff. The rest will come along with the time i think!!!? I started to read programming fundamentals variables/ operators/ list. /pascal - Original Message - From: Pekka Buttler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 10:54 AM Subject: RE: lingo-l mission impossible! Hi Pascal. Depends on what level of expertise you need to attain in the mentioned six months... I personally needed 1 month to get around. Another month to start asking my supervisor annoying questions. The learning curve is not steep, starting out with any real programming language (Java, C++) is a fair deal harder. But even after more than four years I still am not fully satisfied with my skills... Pekka -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pascal Deraed Sent: 23. heinäkuuta 2003 11:37 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: lingo-l mission impossible! hi there! (excuse my english) How hard is Lingo! Is it a dum idea to want to study it and become good at it? I´ve got six mounth to make it. I just want to be sure before i start. Please tell me what you think!! thanks in advanced /pascal [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/LUJ/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!] [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/LUJ/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!] [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/LUJ/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l mission impossible!
Depends on your pre-knowledge, I guess. If You have experience with basic, c or any other programming language, you can do it in less than 6 months (not all details, also depending how much you have to know). Even on this list everyone is still a lingo-student, we'll always be. But it is definitely worth it. What most real programmers don't see, is, that lingo is an easy-to-use but very powerful cross-platform authoring environment. Not only where you know it (like CD-Rom, Terminals and Internet) but also for completely other things. Eg I have been developing a SMS-flirt-system (SMS=ShortMessageService of european mobile phones) and development was much easier and faster than it could have been done with any other language. And guess how long it took to convert the Mac movie for Windows (including Database!)? 2 minutes, that's it. So definitely, go buy a beginners book and start learning. The only negative: don't expect lingo to be really fast (3D etc). It is sufficient for most things but if real speed is what you need - forget it. regards, Florian [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/LUJ/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
RE: lingo-l mission impossible!
No I think you got me wrong there. I myself had no programming experience whatsoever when I started out. Six months later I had three major projects under my belt. How well you cope naturall depends very much on what type of projects you will have. There's no textbook answer for your question. If you do projects like the one's I did in the beginning (corporate presentations etc.) You'll probably have no problem, thenagain, making projects which demand a more complex programming structure might seem too confusing for the non-programmer. Pekka -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pascal Deraed Sent: 23. heinäkuuta 2003 12:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lingo-l mission impossible! well thanks Pekka! In another words , you think it will be very hard for me to make it. Do you mean that it is almost impossible without any programming knowledge? I´ve got to start somewhere! I´ve got six mounth, full time. I won´t need to become world champion after those six mounth but i least understand what i´m doing and be able to do stuff. The rest will come along with the time i think!!!? I started to read programming fundamentals variables/ operators/ list. /pascal - Original Message - From: Pekka Buttler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 10:54 AM Subject: RE: lingo-l mission impossible! Hi Pascal. Depends on what level of expertise you need to attain in the mentioned six months... I personally needed 1 month to get around. Another month to start asking my supervisor annoying questions. The learning curve is not steep, starting out with any real programming language (Java, C++) is a fair deal harder. But even after more than four years I still am not fully satisfied with my skills... Pekka -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pascal Deraed Sent: 23. heinäkuuta 2003 11:37 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: lingo-l mission impossible! hi there! (excuse my english) How hard is Lingo! Is it a dum idea to want to study it and become good at it? I´ve got six mounth to make it. I just want to be sure before i start. Please tell me what you think!! thanks in advanced /pascal [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/LUJ/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!] [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/LUJ/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!] [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/LUJ/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!] [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/LUJ/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l mission impossible!
wow Florian! thanks for your answer. I was starting to loose a lot of my self-confidence about it. Many people say that lingo is almost impossible to learn if you don´t have any pre-experience with programming. I´m a graphic designer and know i can make it! I want to be able to developp simple kids applications with lingo, type math program or some applications whish would help them to learn other languages. /pascal - Original Message - From: Florian Bogeschdorfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 11:31 AM Subject: Re: lingo-l mission impossible! Depends on your pre-knowledge, I guess. If You have experience with basic, c or any other programming language, you can do it in less than 6 months (not all details, also depending how much you have to know). Even on this list everyone is still a lingo-student, we'll always be. But it is definitely worth it. What most real programmers don't see, is, that lingo is an easy-to-use but very powerful cross-platform authoring environment. Not only where you know it (like CD-Rom, Terminals and Internet) but also for completely other things. Eg I have been developing a SMS-flirt-system (SMS=ShortMessageService of european mobile phones) and development was much easier and faster than it could have been done with any other language. And guess how long it took to convert the Mac movie for Windows (including Database!)? 2 minutes, that's it. So definitely, go buy a beginners book and start learning. The only negative: don't expect lingo to be really fast (3D etc). It is sufficient for most things but if real speed is what you need - forget it. regards, Florian [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/LUJ/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!] [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/LUJ/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l mission impossible!
yeah that is what i thought! i understood you a bit and i´m sorry for it... I hope you not mad at me! /Pascal - Original Message - From: Pekka Buttler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 11:51 AM Subject: RE: lingo-l mission impossible! No I think you got me wrong there. I myself had no programming experience whatsoever when I started out. Six months later I had three major projects under my belt. How well you cope naturall depends very much on what type of projects you will have. There's no textbook answer for your question. If you do projects like the one's I did in the beginning (corporate presentations etc.) You'll probably have no problem, thenagain, making projects which demand a more complex programming structure might seem too confusing for the non-programmer. Pekka -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pascal Deraed Sent: 23. heinäkuuta 2003 12:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lingo-l mission impossible! well thanks Pekka! In another words , you think it will be very hard for me to make it. Do you mean that it is almost impossible without any programming knowledge? I´ve got to start somewhere! I´ve got six mounth, full time. I won´t need to become world champion after those six mounth but i least understand what i´m doing and be able to do stuff. The rest will come along with the time i think!!!? I started to read programming fundamentals variables/ operators/ list. /pascal - Original Message - From: Pekka Buttler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 10:54 AM Subject: RE: lingo-l mission impossible! Hi Pascal. Depends on what level of expertise you need to attain in the mentioned six months... I personally needed 1 month to get around. Another month to start asking my supervisor annoying questions. The learning curve is not steep, starting out with any real programming language (Java, C++) is a fair deal harder. But even after more than four years I still am not fully satisfied with my skills... Pekka -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pascal Deraed Sent: 23. heinäkuuta 2003 11:37 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: lingo-l mission impossible! hi there! (excuse my english) How hard is Lingo! Is it a dum idea to want to study it and become good at it? I´ve got six mounth to make it. I just want to be sure before i start. Please tell me what you think!! thanks in advanced /pascal [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/LUJ/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!] [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/LUJ/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!] [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/LUJ/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!] [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/LUJ/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!] [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/LUJ/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l mission impossible!
Well then go ahead and do it. I can't recommend a book for beginners, since I did all learning by doing, but I guess other people on the list can. About your project: generally, things can be done in many ways in lingo, so that it should be no problem to realize a quite simple application with simple lingo. Your code does not need to be perfectly styled, objectorientated or world-class. It only has to work. That's it. And that can be done in about 2 or 3 months. The list will help You. If you need help, feel free to contact me directly. regards, Florian Pascal Deraed wrote: wow Florian! thanks for your answer. I was starting to loose a lot of my self-confidence about it. Many people say that lingo is almost impossible to learn if you don´t have any pre-experience with programming. I´m a graphic designer and know i can make it! I want to be able to developp simple kids applications with lingo, type math program or some applications whish would help them to learn other languages. /pascal - Original Message - From: Florian Bogeschdorfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 11:31 AM Subject: Re: lingo-l mission impossible! Depends on your pre-knowledge, I guess. If You have experience with basic, c or any other programming language, you can do it in less than 6 months (not all details, also depending how much you have to know). Even on this list everyone is still a lingo-student, we'll always be. But it is definitely worth it. What most real programmers don't see, is, that lingo is an easy-to-use but very powerful cross-platform authoring environment. Not only where you know it (like CD-Rom, Terminals and Internet) but also for completely other things. Eg I have been developing a SMS-flirt-system (SMS=ShortMessageService of european mobile phones) and development was much easier and faster than it could have been done with any other language. And guess how long it took to convert the Mac movie for Windows (including Database!)? 2 minutes, that's it. So definitely, go buy a beginners book and start learning. The only negative: don't expect lingo to be really fast (3D etc). It is sufficient for most things but if real speed is what you need - forget it. regards, Florian [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/LUJ/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!] [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/LUJ/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!] [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/LUJ/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
RE: lingo-l mission impossible!
Hi Pascal, well thanks Pekka! In another words , you think it will be very hard for me to make it. Do you mean that it is almost impossible without any programming knowledge? I´ve got to start somewhere! I´ve got six mounth, full time. I won´t need to become world champion after those six mounth but i least understand what i´m doing and be able to do stuff. The rest will come along with the time i think!!!? I started to read programming fundamentals variables/ operators/ list. Your mission is not as impossible as you think :) I started working in a multimedia company as a junior graphic artist 3.5 years ago, with a degree in Journalism and a year's course in Computer Graphics/DTP. Nothing to do with Lingo, nothing to do with Director, absolutely no experience with programming. Now I'm the lead Lingo programmer for the same company. If I managed, so can you! :) :) :) Karina Steffens, Lead Programmer Martello Media Ltd. 4 Islington Avenue Sandycove Co. Dublin Tel: +353 1 2844668 Fax: +353 1 2803195 http://www.martellomm.ie [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/LUJ/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l mission impossible!
I'm also a graphic designer and during my last year at college I went to England (I'm from belgium) to study director for about three months. And now I'm a full programmer in director (and graphic design). So you see to learn lingo is not that hard. It's even a very easy language to learn however there are always things to program in lingo that are hard. I experienced that the best way to learn lingo is to develop a little game like packman or tetris. Try that and you will see that when your game has finished your a whole lot furhter. Good luck with it. By the way to the swedish people. Any tips of companies who wants lingo programmers? Tom On 23-07-2003 10:36, Pascal Deraed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi there! (excuse my english) How hard is Lingo! Is it a dum idea to want to study it and become good at it? I´ve got six mounth to make it. I just want to be sure before i start. Please tell me what you think!! thanks in advanced /pascal [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/LUJ/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!] [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/LUJ/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l mission impossible!
Yeah! i start now to beleive it! I´m gone to make it... So you´re from Belgium and want to work in sweden. I´m french and work in sweden as a senior graphic designer/illustrator and 2D animator (cartoon films). I can have a look for you in sweden if you want it... Shockwave has become very popular and that is only the beginning i think... /pascal - Original Message - From: Tom Vandenbossche [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lingo l [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 1:00 PM Subject: Re: lingo-l mission impossible! I'm also a graphic designer and during my last year at college I went to England (I'm from belgium) to study director for about three months. And now I'm a full programmer in director (and graphic design). So you see to learn lingo is not that hard. It's even a very easy language to learn however there are always things to program in lingo that are hard. I experienced that the best way to learn lingo is to develop a little game like packman or tetris. Try that and you will see that when your game has finished your a whole lot furhter. Good luck with it. By the way to the swedish people. Any tips of companies who wants lingo programmers? Tom On 23-07-2003 10:36, Pascal Deraed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi there! (excuse my english) How hard is Lingo! Is it a dum idea to want to study it and become good at it? I´ve got six mounth to make it. I just want to be sure before i start. Please tell me what you think!! thanks in advanced /pascal [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/LUJ/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!] [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/LUJ/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!] [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/LUJ/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
Re: lingo-l mission impossible!
Me too! Any openings for someone who's been working for about a year and a half with Director and Lingo, knows graphic design and has prior experience working in an animation studio? ...not just in Sweden, ofcourse. :-) Regards, Pranav --- Samuel Colt - the inventor of the point and click interface. snip Yeah! i start now to beleive it! I´m gone to make it... So you´re from Belgium and want to work in sweden. I´m french and work in sweden as a senior graphic designer/illustrator and 2D animator (cartoon films). I can have a look for you in sweden if you want it... Shockwave has become very popular and that is only the beginning i think... . I'm also a graphic designer and during my last year at college I went to England (I'm from belgium) to study director for about three months. And now I'm a full programmer in director (and graphic design). So you see to learn lingo is not that hard. It's even a very easy language to learn however there are always things to program in lingo that are hard. I experienced that the best way to learn lingo is to develop a little game like packman or tetris. Try that and you will see that when your game has finished your a whole lot furhter. Good luck with it. By the way to the swedish people. Any tips of companies who wants lingo programmers? snip [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/LUJ/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]
