linux nss

2004-11-16 Thread David Kreuter
Hi: Does the latest linux NSS technique save more than the <> 1.5Mb from a few 
years ago? Anyone know the latest
status of the Linux NSS? Does it still the require the TRACE command to force 
linux to STOP prior to the SAVESYS?
Thanks, David 

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Re: Linux Performance Issue

2004-11-16 Thread Ihno Krumreich
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 04:24:23PM -0600, Tom Duerbusch wrote:
> KDE?
> 
> Yep, you can run it, but everytime I bring up KDE, it takes about 40%
> of our 60 MIP processor.  There is very little that you ever need a
> desktop manager for that can't be done via command line.  But it is
> really nice to have as a fall back to install some product.
> 
> But after the product is installed, then bring down KDE!
> 
> I think a year or so ago, DB2/UDB required a gui screen for the install
> (just to ask one question).
> 
> Tom Duerbusch
> THD Consulting
> 
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/16/04 03:14PM >>>
> On Nov 16, 2004, at 2:58 PM, John Kaba wrote:
> 
> > We have just recently installed SuSE SLES8 under our VM3.1.0 system,
> > and
> > are experiencing some performance issues.  Our Realtime monitor
> reveals
> > that Linux is utilizing approx 65% of our CPU cycles, but we really
> > have
> > nothing running.  I was told by our Linux guy to give it lots of
> > memory, so
> > I defined it with 1G.  I'm wondering if this is my problem, or if I
> > might
> > have something else set up wrong.  We have Tivoli Directory Server
> 5.2
> > fixpack1, DB2 ver 8.2, and websphere express 5.1, but it is not
> > configured
> > yet.  We have just installed these products, and they are not being
> > used at
> > all, still we are seeing results like this:
> >
> You Linux image is way too big and you're probably seeing VM getting
> tired paging it in and out.  Try reducing it to 384MB.   You will also
> want to turn off timer ticks.  I don't remember exactly what it is you
> need to echo to where in /proc, but I'm sure someone else does.

echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hz_timer

should do it.

> 
> The other thing that's hurting you is KDE.  Why are you running a
> desktop manager on your 390?  Turn *off* X entirely--you don't have a
> local display there anyway.  Again, I don't remember what runlevel
> "services, no X" (I think it's "2", but I won't swear to that) is in
> SuSE, but I'm sure someone does.

Have a look at /etc/inittab. There is a short doku. What you want
to have is level 3 (Full multiuser with network). To change
this permanently change the number in the line "id:5:initdefault:"
to the runlevel you like. You can also use the yast2 runlevel-editor.



To turm off the local X-Server go into /usr/X11/lib/X11/xdm/Xservers
and comment out the line ":0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 vt07"

Ihno

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Re: problems during sles9 installation

2004-11-16 Thread Ihno Krumreich
hi,

could you please provide some more info:

- What type of disks?
- Amoung of memory?

Ihno

On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 03:50:13PM -0500, Daniel Jarboe wrote:
> I didn't see anything in the installation doc so I thought I'd ask if
> anyone has seen this before:
> 
> I'm trying a new install of SLES9 (s390 31bit) under VM.  I had
> previously formatted all the DASD from another SLES8 system.  The
> install was working on the second CD (core9/CD1) over NFS (loop mounted
> isos) with an ssh client.  Several progress bars into it, the ssh client
> disappeared and this was written to /var/log/messages...
> 
> Nov 15 19:58:22 suse kernel: JBD: barrier-based sync failed on dasde1 -
> disabling barriers 
> 
> Nov 15 19:58:22 suse kernel: JBD: barrier-based sync failed on dasdf1 -
> disabling barriers 
> 
> Nov 15 20:13:18 suse sshd[245]: Received signal 15; terminating. 
> 
> Nov 15 20:13:18 suse kernel: illegal operation: 0001 [#1] 
> 
> Nov 15 20:13:18 suse kernel: CPU: 0 Not tainted 
> 
> Nov 15 20:13:18 suse kernel: Process linuxrc (pid: 292, task: 0f849b70,
> ksp: 0e433ea0) 
> 
> Nov 15 20:13:18 suse kernel: Krnl PSW : 07081000 8002 (0x2) 
> 
> Nov 15 20:13:18 suse kernel: Krnl GPRS: 0001  073b6500
>  
> 
> Nov 15 20:13:18 suse kernel: 0036 0e433b28 0001 073b65a4 
> 
> Nov 15 20:13:18 suse kernel:  0295 0e433df0 006ab360 
> 
> Nov 15 20:13:18 suse kernel: 073b6500 80192188 801928a8 0e433a40 
> 
> Nov 15 20:13:18 suse kernel: Krnl Code: 00 00 80 10 ed ac 00 00 00 00 00
> 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
> 
> Nov 15 20:13:18 suse kernel: Call Trace: 
> 
> Nov 15 20:13:18 suse kernel: [do_writepages+68/72]
> do_writepages+0x44/0x48 
> 
> Nov 15 20:13:18 suse kernel: [__writeback_single_inode+348/704]
> __writeback_single_inode+0x15c/0x2c0 
> 
> Nov 15 20:13:18 suse kernel: [sync_sb_inodes+372/760]
> sync_sb_inodes+0x174/0x2f8
> 
> Nov 15 20:13:18 suse kernel: [sync_inodes_sb+154/176]
> sync_inodes_sb+0x9a/0xb0 
> 
> Nov 15 20:13:18 suse kernel: [sync_inodes+72/176] sync_inodes+0x48/0xb0 
> 
> Nov 15 20:13:18 suse kernel: [do_sync+68/144] do_sync+0x44/0x90 
> 
> Nov 15 20:13:18 suse kernel: [sys_sync+102/156] sys_sync+0x66/0x9c 
> 
> Nov 15 20:13:18 suse kernel: [sysc_do_restart+14/18]
> sysc_do_restart+0xe/0x12 
> 
> Nov 15 20:13:18 suse kernel: 
> 
> SuSE Instsys linfs3:/ #
> 
> 
> We've tried fresh a few times... I've verified that the md5sums of the
> isos match what SuSE reports as correct.  Everything seems in order,
> except for the installer crashes.  Has anyone seen anything like this?
> 
> Thanks,
> ~ Daniel
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Re: Linux Performance Issue

2004-11-16 Thread Tom Duerbusch
KDE?

Yep, you can run it, but everytime I bring up KDE, it takes about 40%
of our 60 MIP processor.  There is very little that you ever need a
desktop manager for that can't be done via command line.  But it is
really nice to have as a fall back to install some product.

But after the product is installed, then bring down KDE!

I think a year or so ago, DB2/UDB required a gui screen for the install
(just to ask one question).

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/16/04 03:14PM >>>
On Nov 16, 2004, at 2:58 PM, John Kaba wrote:

> We have just recently installed SuSE SLES8 under our VM3.1.0 system,
> and
> are experiencing some performance issues.  Our Realtime monitor
reveals
> that Linux is utilizing approx 65% of our CPU cycles, but we really
> have
> nothing running.  I was told by our Linux guy to give it lots of
> memory, so
> I defined it with 1G.  I'm wondering if this is my problem, or if I
> might
> have something else set up wrong.  We have Tivoli Directory Server
5.2
> fixpack1, DB2 ver 8.2, and websphere express 5.1, but it is not
> configured
> yet.  We have just installed these products, and they are not being
> used at
> all, still we are seeing results like this:
>
You Linux image is way too big and you're probably seeing VM getting
tired paging it in and out.  Try reducing it to 384MB.   You will also
want to turn off timer ticks.  I don't remember exactly what it is you
need to echo to where in /proc, but I'm sure someone else does.

The other thing that's hurting you is KDE.  Why are you running a
desktop manager on your 390?  Turn *off* X entirely--you don't have a
local display there anyway.  Again, I don't remember what runlevel
"services, no X" (I think it's "2", but I won't swear to that) is in
SuSE, but I'm sure someone does.

Adam

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Re: Linux Performance Issue

2004-11-16 Thread Kurt Acker
There are some very helpful tips for running Linux guest on VM available
at:
http://www.vm.ibm.com/perf/tips/

Kurt Acker




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We are now messing with VM Page Space.

I too have see major slowness with my SLES 8 Guest. Our VM guy has
increased the Page Space, I'm checking it out now.

- Original Message -
From: "John Kaba" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux Performance Issue
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:58:00 -0600

>
> We have just recently installed SuSE SLES8 under our VM3.1.0 system, and
> are experiencing some performance issues.  Our Realtime monitor reveals
> that Linux is utilizing approx 65% of our CPU cycles, but we really have
> nothing running.  I was told by our Linux guy to give it lots of memory,
so
> I defined it with 1G.  I'm wondering if this is my problem, or if I
might
> have something else set up wrong.  We have Tivoli Directory Server 5.2
> fixpack1, DB2 ver 8.2, and websphere express 5.1, but it is not
configured
> yet.  We have just installed these products, and they are not being used
at
> all, still we are seeing results like this:
>



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Re: Linux Performance Issue

2004-11-16 Thread John Kaba
Update on the SuSE SLES 8 performance Issue:

KDE was just turned on to configure the various components(DB2, etc), we
are using runlevel 3.  I have since turned KDE off, I have reduced the
Virtual memory on the Linux guest machine to 384MB, and set timer ticks to
0.  I shutdown Linux, logged off the guest, and reautologged, and didn't
even start the directory server, or DB2.

TOP shows mostly idle:

CPU0 states:  1.0% user,  0.5% system,  0.0% nice, 97.4% idle
CPU1 states: 13.4% user,  0.4% system,  0.0% nice, 85.1% idle
Mem:   385144K av,   79608K used,  305536K free,   0K shrd,   19536K
buff
Swap:  719896K av,   0K used,  719896K free   39004K
cached

  PID USER PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM   TIME COMMAND
  784 root  15   0  1020 1016   824 R 0.9  0.2   0:00 top
1 root  15   0   236  236   196 S 0.0  0.0   0:00 init
2 root  0K   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00
migration_CPU0
3 root  0K   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00
migration_CPU1
4 root  25   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00 kmcheck
5 root  15   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00 keventd
6 root  34  19 00 0 RWN   0.0  0.0   0:00
ksoftirqd_CPU0
7 root  34  19 00 0 SWN   0.0  0.0   0:00
ksoftirqd_CPU1
8 root  25   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00 kswapd
9 root  25   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00 bdflush
   10 root  15   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00 kupdated
   11 root  25   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00 kinoded
   12 root  25   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00 mdrecoveryd
   23 root  15   0 00 0 SW0.0  0.0   0:00 kreiserfsd
   47 root   0 -20 00 0 SW<   0.0  0.0   0:00 lvm-mpd
  285 root  15   0   656  656   552 S 0.0  0.1   0:00 syslogd

but it is still our biggest CPU hog (52%). Of course it's not really that
big of a deal with our system indicate at:
ind
AVGPROC-012% 01
XSTORE-00/SEC MIGRATE-/SEC
MDC READS-34/SEC WRITES-01/SEC HIT RATIO-084%
STORAGE-010% PAGING-/SEC STEAL-000%
Q0-2(0)   DORMANT-00050
Q1-0(0)   E1-0(0)
Q2-0(0) EXPAN-001 E2-0(0)
Q3-4(0) EXPAN-001 E3-0(0)

PROC -012%

LIMITED-0

  but we are not in production yet either.

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Re: Linux Performance Issue

2004-11-16 Thread PatrickOBrien obrien
We are now messing with VM Page Space. 

I too have see major slowness with my SLES 8 Guest. Our VM guy has increased 
the Page Space, I'm checking it out now.

- Original Message -
From: "John Kaba" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux Performance Issue
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:58:00 -0600

> 
> We have just recently installed SuSE SLES8 under our VM3.1.0 system, and
> are experiencing some performance issues.  Our Realtime monitor reveals
> that Linux is utilizing approx 65% of our CPU cycles, but we really have
> nothing running.  I was told by our Linux guy to give it lots of memory, so
> I defined it with 1G.  I'm wondering if this is my problem, or if I might
> have something else set up wrong.  We have Tivoli Directory Server 5.2
> fixpack1, DB2 ver 8.2, and websphere express 5.1, but it is not configured
> yet.  We have just installed these products, and they are not being used at
> all, still we are seeing results like this:
> 
> ---
> Here is our Realtime Monitor results:
> 
> <>z/VM   CPU9672 SERIAL 0696922G DATE 11/16/04 START 13:37:27 END
> 14:25:02<>
>*
> USERID-> LOGGED %ACT %PGW %IOW %SUS %RUN %ELG :DSK :XST :SPL :CPU :PAG :I/O
> :STR
> *TOTALS*   5544   14.7  .0 .0   75.6
> 24.3.0  100100   100100100   100100
> LINUX  192   71.3  .0.043.7
> 56.2.0 .0100   .065.8   .0  30.9  55.7
> VSE2 96 100 .0 .0
> 90.6 9.3.0 .0.01.714.5   .0
> 12.1   2.9
> TCPIP   96  100 .0.0
> 100.0.0 .0.0  .0  7.8   .0
> 30.7 .9
> VSEIPO96  100 .0.098.9
> 1.0.0  .0.0   11.05.5   .0   23.7  1.1
> 
> ---
> Here is a "TOP" listing from our Linux guest:
> 
> 70 processes: 68 sleeping, 2 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
> CPU0 states:  1.4% user,  4.4% system,  0.0% nice, 93.0% idle
> CPU1 states: 14.2% user,  3.4% system,  0.0% nice, 81.2% idle
> Mem:  1008504K av,  953116K used,   55388K free,   0K shrd,  138316K
> buff
> Swap:  719896K av,   4K used,  719892K free  668240K
> cached
> 
>   PID USERPRI  NI   SIZERSS  SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM  TIME
> COMMAND
> 10871 dmelende150 1137211M 10632   S 2.9
> 1.1   7:50 kdeinit
> 10905 dmelende150 1680416M 14572   S 2.5
> 1.6   3:26 kdeinit
> 23343 jkaba 150  10361032  828   R
> 1.50.1   0:00 top
> 10914 dmelende150 1265212M 11724   S 0.5
> 1.2   0:28  kdeinit
> 10890 dmelende150 1298012M 11848   R 0.3
> 1.2   1:20 kdeinit
> 23327 jkaba 150  23762376   2208S
> 0.30.2   0:00sshd
> 15843 root15 0  20842080   1520S
> 0.1   0.2   0:06 db2fmcd
> 1  root15 0   208   204  160
> S 0.0   0.0   0:04  init
> 2  root0K 0 0  00
> SW 0.00.0   0:00 migration_CPU0
> 3  root0K 0 0  0   0
> SW 0.00.0   0:00 migration_CPU1
> 4  root25 0 0  00
> SW 0.00.0   0:00 kmcheck
> 5  root15 0 0  0   0
> SW 0.00.0   0:00 keventd
> 6  root34   19 0  0  0
> SWN 0.00.0   8:50 ksoftirqd_CPU0
> 7  root34   19 0  0  0
> SWN 0.00.0   8:36 ksoftirqd_CPU1
> 8  root15 0 0  0   0
> SW  0.00.0   0:07 kswapd
> 9  root25 0 0  0   0
> SW  0.00.0   0:00 bdflush
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~>
> ---
> Here is the directory entry for the Linux Guest:
> 
> USER LINUX xxx 1000M 2000M G
> *-

Re: Linux Performance Issue

2004-11-16 Thread John Campbell
You'd want to change the initdefault setting from 5 to 3 (like RedHat, SuSE
uses 2 for multi-abuser w/ no network and 3 for multi-abuser with
networking).

One wonders how an initdefault of 5 got set w/o a framebuffer.  Ouch.

There are also some other tunables to allow you to manage the "disk
caching" but I've long since lost the URL;  it's somewhere on the
developerworks.  It's a matter of echoing various values to various /proc
file thingies.

*SIGH*

(Imagines a Tyrranosaurus Rex carrying a row of Penguins down it's back,
arranged kind of like the armor plates of a Stegosaurus.)

BTW, anybody here still have a "Peace Love Linux" flag?  I wanna get one
for my sailboat.  It'd sure be better than the "Tampa Bay Buccaneers" flags
I usually see...


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Windows.
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On Nov 16, 2004, at 2:58 PM, John Kaba wrote:

> We have just recently installed SuSE SLES8 under our VM3.1.0 system,
> and
> are experiencing some performance issues.  Our Realtime monitor reveals
> that Linux is utilizing approx 65% of our CPU cycles, but we really
> have
> nothing running.  I was told by our Linux guy to give it lots of
> memory, so
> I defined it with 1G.  I'm wondering if this is my problem, or if I
> might
> have something else set up wrong.  We have Tivoli Directory Server 5.2
> fixpack1, DB2 ver 8.2, and websphere express 5.1, but it is not
> configured
> yet.  We have just installed these products, and they are not being
> used at
> all, still we are seeing results like this:
>
You Linux image is way too big and you're probably seeing VM getting
tired paging it in and out.  Try reducing it to 384MB.   You will also
want to turn off timer ticks.  I don't remember exactly what it is you
need to echo to where in /proc, but I'm sure someone else does.

The other thing that's hurting you is KDE.  Why are you running a
desktop manager on your 390?  Turn *off* X entirely--you don't have a
local display there anyway.  Again, I don't remember what runlevel
"services, no X" (I think it's "2", but I won't swear to that) is in
SuSE, but I'm sure someone does.

Adam

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Re: dasdfmt error - invalidate first track

2004-11-16 Thread Post, Mark K
What is the major and minor number of /dev/dasdam?
ls -l /dev/dasda?


Mark Post

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Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 3:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: dasdfmt error - invalidate first track


Hi all...

Adding new dasd (dasdam) to a running SLES8 system, when it comes to
running the dasdfmt, we get an error of:
All data of that device will be lost.
Type "yes" to continue, no will leave the disk untouched: yes
Formatting the device. This may take a while (get yourself a coffee).
dasdfmt: (invalidate first track) IOCTL BIODASDFMT failed. (Invalid
argument)

The command is:
dasdfmt -b 4096 -l ABCDEF -f /dev/dasdam

The only similar failures I've found are all related to specifying the
partition number as part of the device name.

And yes, they have dasda->dasdz->dasdaa->dasdal in production.  Now adding
5 more volumes (dasdam->dasdaq).  They did the mknode's and we can see the
/dev/dasda* entries in the /dev directory.  They did the add device into
/proc/dasd/devices, and they can see them there with the minidisk addresses
matching the expected dasda* names.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Lee



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Re: Linux Performance Issue

2004-11-16 Thread Jeremy Warren
Setting the

kernel.hz_timer = 0
in the /etc/sysctl

will probably help at least some but your probably going to have to do a
detailed memory analysis to see how much memory is REALLY needed with DB2
in their 1GB might be the real number but my gut feel is thats WAY too
large..




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Re: Linux Performance Issue

2004-11-16 Thread Post, Mark K
One word.  Well, two.  KDE.  Don't.


Mark Post

-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
Kaba
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 3:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux Performance Issue


We have just recently installed SuSE SLES8 under our VM3.1.0 system, and are
experiencing some performance issues.  Our Realtime monitor reveals that
Linux is utilizing approx 65% of our CPU cycles, but we really have nothing
running.  I was told by our Linux guy to give it lots of memory, so I
defined it with 1G.  I'm wondering if this is my problem, or if I might have
something else set up wrong.  We have Tivoli Directory Server 5.2 fixpack1,
DB2 ver 8.2, and websphere express 5.1, but it is not configured yet.  We
have just installed these products, and they are not being used at all,
still we are seeing results like this:



---
Here is our Realtime Monitor results:

<>z/VM   CPU9672 SERIAL 0696922G DATE 11/16/04 START 13:37:27 END
14:25:02<>
   *
USERID-> LOGGED %ACT %PGW %IOW %SUS %RUN %ELG :DSK :XST :SPL :CPU :PAG
USERID-> :I/O
:STR
*TOTALS*   5544   14.7  .0 .0   75.6
24.3.0  100100   100100100   100100
LINUX  192   71.3  .0.043.7
56.2.0 .0100   .065.8   .0  30.9  55.7
VSE2 96 100 .0 .0
90.6 9.3.0 .0.01.714.5   .0
12.1   2.9
TCPIP   96  100 .0.0
100.0.0 .0.0  .0  7.8   .0
30.7 .9
VSEIPO96  100 .0.098.9
1.0.0  .0.0   11.05.5   .0   23.7  1.1



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Here is a "TOP" listing from our Linux guest:

70 processes: 68 sleeping, 2 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU0 states:  1.4% user,  4.4% system,  0.0% nice, 93.0% idle CPU1 states:
14.2% user,  3.4% system,  0.0% nice, 81.2% idle
Mem:  1008504K av,  953116K used,   55388K free,   0K shrd,  138316K
buff
Swap:  719896K av,   4K used,  719892K free  668240K
cached

  PID USERPRI  NI   SIZERSS  SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM  TIME
COMMAND
10871 dmelende150 1137211M 10632   S 2.9
1.1   7:50 kdeinit
10905 dmelende150 1680416M 14572   S 2.5
1.6   3:26 kdeinit
23343 jkaba 150  10361032  828   R
1.50.1   0:00 top
10914 dmelende150 1265212M 11724   S 0.5
1.2   0:28  kdeinit
10890 dmelende150 1298012M 11848   R 0.3
1.2   1:20 kdeinit
23327 jkaba 150  23762376   2208S
0.30.2   0:00sshd
15843 root15 0  20842080   1520S
0.1   0.2   0:06 db2fmcd
1  root15 0   208   204  160
S 0.0   0.0   0:04  init
2  root0K 0 0  00
SW 0.00.0   0:00 migration_CPU0
3  root0K 0 0  0   0
SW 0.00.0   0:00 migration_CPU1
4  root25 0 0  00
SW 0.00.0   0:00 kmcheck
5  root15 0 0  0   0
SW 0.00.0   0:00 keventd
6  root34   19 0  0  0
SWN 0.00.0   8:50 ksoftirqd_CPU0
7  root34   19 0  0  0
SWN 0.00.0   8:36 ksoftirqd_CPU1
8  root15 0 0  0   0
SW  0.00.0   0:07 kswapd
9  root25 0 0  0   0
SW  0.00.0   0:00 bdflush
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Here is the directory entry for the Linux Guest:

USER LINUX xxx 1000M 2000M G
*-
   ACCOUNT 442061 LINUX
   CPU 01 CPUID 11
   CPU 02 CPUID 111222
   IPL CMS PARM AUTOCR
   IUCV ANY
   IUCV ALLOW
   MACHINE ESA 10
   OPTION MAINTCCW RMCHINFO
   SHARE REL 2000
   XSTORE 32M
   CONSOLE 01

Re: Linux Performance Issue

2004-11-16 Thread Adam Thornton
On Nov 16, 2004, at 2:58 PM, John Kaba wrote:
We have just recently installed SuSE SLES8 under our VM3.1.0 system,
and
are experiencing some performance issues.  Our Realtime monitor reveals
that Linux is utilizing approx 65% of our CPU cycles, but we really
have
nothing running.  I was told by our Linux guy to give it lots of
memory, so
I defined it with 1G.  I'm wondering if this is my problem, or if I
might
have something else set up wrong.  We have Tivoli Directory Server 5.2
fixpack1, DB2 ver 8.2, and websphere express 5.1, but it is not
configured
yet.  We have just installed these products, and they are not being
used at
all, still we are seeing results like this:
You Linux image is way too big and you're probably seeing VM getting
tired paging it in and out.  Try reducing it to 384MB.   You will also
want to turn off timer ticks.  I don't remember exactly what it is you
need to echo to where in /proc, but I'm sure someone else does.
The other thing that's hurting you is KDE.  Why are you running a
desktop manager on your 390?  Turn *off* X entirely--you don't have a
local display there anyway.  Again, I don't remember what runlevel
"services, no X" (I think it's "2", but I won't swear to that) is in
SuSE, but I'm sure someone does.
Adam
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Re: dasdfmt error - invalidate first track

2004-11-16 Thread Adam Thornton
On Nov 16, 2004, at 2:47 PM, Lee Stewart wrote:
And yes, they have dasda->dasdz->dasdaa->dasdal in production.  Now
adding
5 more volumes (dasdam->dasdaq).  They did the mknode's and we can see
the
/dev/dasda* entries in the /dev directory.  They did the add device
into
/proc/dasd/devices, and they can see them there with the minidisk
addresses
matching the expected dasda* names.
Any thoughts?

This may sound stupid, but I have, on occasion, had Linux refuse to
touch virgin DASD.  You may need to INIT or CPVOL ALLOC it in ICKDSF
first, or--what I've always done--just CMS FORMAT it.  Try CMS
FORMATting it and see if the error magically goes away when Linux tries
to write it.
Adam
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Linux Performance Issue

2004-11-16 Thread John Kaba
We have just recently installed SuSE SLES8 under our VM3.1.0 system, and
are experiencing some performance issues.  Our Realtime monitor reveals
that Linux is utilizing approx 65% of our CPU cycles, but we really have
nothing running.  I was told by our Linux guy to give it lots of memory, so
I defined it with 1G.  I'm wondering if this is my problem, or if I might
have something else set up wrong.  We have Tivoli Directory Server 5.2
fixpack1, DB2 ver 8.2, and websphere express 5.1, but it is not configured
yet.  We have just installed these products, and they are not being used at
all, still we are seeing results like this:

---
Here is our Realtime Monitor results:

<>z/VM   CPU9672 SERIAL 0696922G DATE 11/16/04 START 13:37:27 END
14:25:02<>
   *
USERID-> LOGGED %ACT %PGW %IOW %SUS %RUN %ELG :DSK :XST :SPL :CPU :PAG :I/O
:STR
*TOTALS*   5544   14.7  .0 .0   75.6
24.3.0  100100   100100100   100100
LINUX  192   71.3  .0.043.7
56.2.0 .0100   .065.8   .0  30.9  55.7
VSE2 96 100 .0 .0
90.6 9.3.0 .0.01.714.5   .0
12.1   2.9
TCPIP   96  100 .0.0
100.0.0 .0.0  .0  7.8   .0
30.7 .9
VSEIPO96  100 .0.098.9
1.0.0  .0.0   11.05.5   .0   23.7  1.1

---
Here is a "TOP" listing from our Linux guest:

70 processes: 68 sleeping, 2 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU0 states:  1.4% user,  4.4% system,  0.0% nice, 93.0% idle
CPU1 states: 14.2% user,  3.4% system,  0.0% nice, 81.2% idle
Mem:  1008504K av,  953116K used,   55388K free,   0K shrd,  138316K
buff
Swap:  719896K av,   4K used,  719892K free  668240K
cached

  PID USERPRI  NI   SIZERSS  SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM  TIME
COMMAND
10871 dmelende150 1137211M 10632   S 2.9
1.1   7:50 kdeinit
10905 dmelende150 1680416M 14572   S 2.5
1.6   3:26 kdeinit
23343 jkaba 150  10361032  828   R
1.50.1   0:00 top
10914 dmelende150 1265212M 11724   S 0.5
1.2   0:28  kdeinit
10890 dmelende150 1298012M 11848   R 0.3
1.2   1:20 kdeinit
23327 jkaba 150  23762376   2208S
0.30.2   0:00sshd
15843 root15 0  20842080   1520S
0.1   0.2   0:06 db2fmcd
1  root15 0   208   204  160
S 0.0   0.0   0:04  init
2  root0K 0 0  00
SW 0.00.0   0:00 migration_CPU0
3  root0K 0 0  0   0
SW 0.00.0   0:00 migration_CPU1
4  root25 0 0  00
SW 0.00.0   0:00 kmcheck
5  root15 0 0  0   0
SW 0.00.0   0:00 keventd
6  root34   19 0  0  0
SWN 0.00.0   8:50 ksoftirqd_CPU0
7  root34   19 0  0  0
SWN 0.00.0   8:36 ksoftirqd_CPU1
8  root15 0 0  0   0
SW  0.00.0   0:07 kswapd
9  root25 0 0  0   0
SW  0.00.0   0:00 bdflush
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Here is the directory entry for the Linux Guest:

USER LINUX xxx 1000M 2000M G
*-
   ACCOUNT 442061 LINUX
   CPU 01 CPUID 11
   CPU 02 CPUID 111222
   IPL CMS PARM AUTOCR
   IUCV ANY
   IUCV ALLOW
   MACHINE ESA 10
   OPTION MAINTCCW RMCHINFO
   SHARE REL 2000
   XSTORE 32M
   CONSOLE 01C0 3270 A
   SPECIAL 0808 CTCA
   SPECIAL 0809 CTCA
   SPOOL 000C 2540 READER *
   SPOOL 000D 2540 PUNCH A
   SPOOL 000E 3203 A
   LINK MAINT 0190 0190 RR
   LINK MAINT 019D 019D RR
   LINK MAINT 019E 019E RR
   LINK TCPMAINT 0592 0592 RR

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dasdfmt error - invalidate first track

2004-11-16 Thread Lee Stewart
Hi all...
Adding new dasd (dasdam) to a running SLES8 system, when it comes to
running the dasdfmt, we get an error of:
   All data of that device will be lost.
   Type "yes" to continue, no will leave the disk untouched: yes
   Formatting the device. This may take a while (get yourself a coffee).
   dasdfmt: (invalidate first track) IOCTL BIODASDFMT failed. (Invalid
argument)
The command is:
   dasdfmt -b 4096 -l ABCDEF -f /dev/dasdam
The only similar failures I've found are all related to specifying the
partition number as part of the device name.
And yes, they have dasda->dasdz->dasdaa->dasdal in production.  Now adding
5 more volumes (dasdam->dasdaq).  They did the mknode's and we can see the
/dev/dasda* entries in the /dev directory.  They did the add device into
/proc/dasd/devices, and they can see them there with the minidisk addresses
matching the expected dasda* names.
Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Lee

Lee Stewart, Senior SE
Sirius Enterprise Systems Group
(719) 566-0188 , Fax (309) 410-5363
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Re: Patrick Volkerding Slackware Linux Maintainer, Battles Myste ry Illness

2004-11-16 Thread Post, Mark K
Pat wrote me an email over the weekend talking about what he's been going
through.  The man is seriously concerned about his health.  Looking at the
Slashdot comments, they range from the usual useless to downright offensive,
with a few sympathetic entries.  God, what jerks people can be.


Mark Post

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Melin
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 2:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Patrick Volkerding Slackware Linux Maintainer, Battles Mystery
Illness


http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/16/1846207

Since many folk on here have played with Mark Post's port of Slackware to
the mainframe world, I thought I'd get this out on here.

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Patrick Volkerding Slackware Linux Maintainer, Battles Mystery Illness

2004-11-16 Thread James Melin
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/16/1846207

Since many folk on here have played with Mark Post's port of Slackware to
the mainframe world, I thought I'd get this out on here.

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Re: Migrating a Kernel to a New System

2004-11-16 Thread Post, Mark K
The answer is to do what the Linux distributions do.  Use the kernel SRPM to
create a kernel RPM, and then transport that to wherever you need, and do an
"rpm -i" command to install it.  Look at the .spec file for your
distribution's kernel SRPM to see how they do it.


Mark Post

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Shilson
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 1:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Migrating a Kernel to a New System


I have just created a new kernel.  I now want to install that kernel on
several (perhaps many) other systems.  One possibility is to go through the
entire kernel install process on each system.  I would like to reduce the
work.  I have seen several presentations/documents on building, but not on
migrating kernels. One of my concerns has to do with prereq products, like
gcc, for instance.

Can anyone help of provide guidance?

Thanks,

tom
- - - - - - - - - - - -
Toto, I have a feeling we're not in the mainframe world any more.
   _/)  Tom Shilson
~GEDW & VM System Services
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Re: LVM under Debian

2004-11-16 Thread Adam Thornton
On Nov 16, 2004, at 10:39 AM, Noll, Ralph wrote:
zvmlinx5:/etc# pvscan
pvscan -- reading all physical volumes (this may take a while...)
pvscan -- inactive PV "/dev/dasd/0301/part1"  is associated to unknown
VG "lvmdata" (run vgscan)
...
What am I missing
It doesn't look like the volume group lvmdata ever got correctly
defined.
What commands did you execute to build the VG?  Did you run dasdfmt on
all the physical devices first?  Did you use the right devices (the
partitions, not the raw DASD devices) when you ran vgcreate?  Did you
activate the volume group with vgchange -a ?
Adam
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Migrating a Kernel to a New System

2004-11-16 Thread Tom Shilson
I have just created a new kernel.  I now want to install that kernel on
several (perhaps many) other systems.  One possibility is to go through the
entire kernel install process on each system.  I would like to reduce the
work.  I have seen several presentations/documents on building, but not on
migrating kernels. One of my concerns has to do with prereq products, like
gcc, for instance.

Can anyone help of provide guidance?

Thanks,

tom
- - - - - - - - - - - -
Toto, I have a feeling we're not in the mainframe world any more.
   _/)  Tom Shilson
~GEDW & VM System Services
Aloha   Tel:  651-733-7591   tshilson at mmm dot com
   Fax:  651-736-7689

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Re: problems during sles9 installation

2004-11-16 Thread Daniel Jarboe
> Looks like the kernel has some definite problems.  If this is as
> repeatable as it sounds, I would report it to SUSE, and perhaps the
LKML.

I switched from a coworkers machine to my linux box here and things are
a bit better.  Now twice I've made it all the way through the install up
to zipl segfaulting.

I'll give our support line a call...
~ Daniel

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LVM under Debian

2004-11-16 Thread Noll, Ralph
zvmlinx5:/etc# pvscan
pvscan -- reading all physical volumes (this may take a while...)
pvscan -- inactive PV "/dev/dasd/0301/part1"  is associated to unknown
VG "lvmdata" (run vgscan)
pvscan -- inactive PV "/dev/dasd/0302/part1"  is associated to unknown
VG "lvmdata" (run vgscan)
pvscan -- inactive PV "/dev/dasd/0303/part1"  is associated to unknown
VG "lvmdata" (run vgscan)
pvscan -- inactive PV "/dev/dasd/0304/part1"  is associated to unknown
VG "lvmdata" (run vgscan)
pvscan -- inactive PV "/dev/dasd/0305/part1"  is associated to unknown
VG "lvmdata" (run vgscan)
pvscan -- inactive PV "/dev/dasd/0306/part1"  is associated to unknown
VG "lvmdata" (run vgscan)
pvscan -- inactive PV "/dev/dasd/0307/part1"  is associated to unknown
VG "lvmdata" (run vgscan)
pvscan -- inactive PV "/dev/dasd/0308/part1"  is associated to unknown
VG "lvmdata" (run vgscan)
pvscan -- total: 8 [18.34 GB] / in use: 8 [18.34 GB] / in no VG: 0 [0]



 
vgscan -- ERROR "vg_read_with_pv_and_lv(): current PV" can't get data of
volume 
group "lvmdata" from physical volume(s)

vgscan -- "/etc/lvmtab" and "/etc/lvmtab.d" successfully created

vgscan -- WARNING: This program does not do a VGDA backup of your volume
group  
 

vgchange -- no volume groups found



Just installed another Debian under z/VM

I've created an lvm
I added it to fstab

zvmlinx5:/etc# cat fstab
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
#  

/dev/dasd/0300/part1/   ext2errors=remount-ro
0  1
/dev/dasd/0308/part1noneswapsw
0  0
/dev/lvmdata/vol1   /data   ext2defaults0   2
proc/proc   procdefaults0
0
/dev/fd0/floppy autouser,noauto 0
0
/dev/cdrom  /cdrom  iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0
0
devfs   /devdevfs   defaults0   2
zvmlinx5:/etc#



When I re-boot
Getting the below msg

vgscan -- reading all physical volumes (this may take a while...)

vgscan -- ERROR "vg_read_with_pv_and_lv(): current PV" can't get data of
volume
group "lvmdata" from physical volume(s)

vgscan -- "/etc/lvmtab" and "/etc/lvmtab.d" successfully created

vgscan -- WARNING: This program does not do a VGDA backup of your volume
group 
 

vgchange -- no volume groups found

 

Checking all file systems...

fsck 1.27 (8-Mar-2002)

fsck.ext2: No such file or directory while trying to open
/dev/lvmdata/vol1
/dev/lvmdata/vol1:

The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2

filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2

filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock

is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate
superblock: 
e2fsck -b 8193 


What am I missing

Thanks

Ralph

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LVM under Debian

2004-11-16 Thread Noll, Ralph
 
vgscan -- ERROR "vg_read_with_pv_and_lv(): current PV" can't get data of
volume 
group "lvmdata" from physical volume(s)

vgscan -- "/etc/lvmtab" and "/etc/lvmtab.d" successfully created

vgscan -- WARNING: This program does not do a VGDA backup of your volume
group  
 

vgchange -- no volume groups found


Just installed another Debian under z/VM

I've created an lvm
I added it to fstab

zvmlinx5:/etc# cat fstab
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
#  

/dev/dasd/0300/part1/   ext2errors=remount-ro
0  1
/dev/dasd/0308/part1noneswapsw
0  0
/dev/lvmdata/vol1   /data   ext2defaults0   2
proc/proc   procdefaults0
0
/dev/fd0/floppy autouser,noauto 0
0
/dev/cdrom  /cdrom  iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0
0
devfs   /devdevfs   defaults0   2
zvmlinx5:/etc#

When I re-boot
Getting the below msg

vgscan -- reading all physical volumes (this may take a while...)

vgscan -- ERROR "vg_read_with_pv_and_lv(): current PV" can't get data of
volume
group "lvmdata" from physical volume(s)

vgscan -- "/etc/lvmtab" and "/etc/lvmtab.d" successfully created

vgscan -- WARNING: This program does not do a VGDA backup of your volume
group 
 

vgchange -- no volume groups found

 

Checking all file systems...

fsck 1.27 (8-Mar-2002)

fsck.ext2: No such file or directory while trying to open
/dev/lvmdata/vol1
/dev/lvmdata/vol1:

The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2

filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2

filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock

is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate
superblock: 
e2fsck -b 8193 


What am I missing

Thanks

Ralph

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Re: SuSe Support

2004-11-16 Thread Kohrs, Steven
On Mon, 2004-11-15 at 22:48, PatrickOBrien obrien wrote:
> Are you all getting Suse Support from IBM or Suse?

We chose to utilize IBM for SuSe support with the thought process being
we could make one call, for say an application issue, and if the problem
ended up being an OS issue, the PMR could be passed within IBM to the
proper team.

I don't know if that'll ever happen though.  Seems like I always have to
open additional PMRs for problems that stem from the same issue.  I
guess the IBM technicians can monitor other PMRs easier than a SuSE
technician could.

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Re: z/VM WBT or CBT Recommendations?

2004-11-16 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 11/15/2004 at 11:56 EST, "Kern, Thomas"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does IBM have a "z/OS University" (tm?) that could be used as a
> template/guide for some volunteers from Hillgang, CAVMEN, NEUVM, MVMRUG?
A
> major problem with getting multiple volunteers to work on a project is
not
> having a structure to start with. If volunteers were given a specfic
section
> of an overall plan to work on, it would be easier to find such
volunteers.

Not to my knowledge, as there is plenty of formal z/OS training available.
 And, in any case, I think the structure of a z/OS sysprog course would
have little relationship to the structure of a z/VM course except in the
broadest terms.

I submit as a candidate 'structure' the oft-mentioned z/VM 5.1 Getting
Started book.  It attempts to define and present the major elements of
z/VM system administration in a cogent fashion.

The z/VM hands-on labs at the zSeries Expo and at SHARE conferences have
been really popular.  Those labs provide a *most excellent* structure for
presenting information.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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Re: problems during sles9 installation

2004-11-16 Thread Daniel Jarboe
> Where did you get the documentation on doing an upgrade from
> sles 8 to sles 9? TIA!

There's a docu directory in CD1 (SLES-9-s390-RC5a-CD1.iso).  I
didn't look to see if the doc addresses upgrading, but it was an
option during the install process.  I'd poke around on CD1 first...
there were several pdf and text/html files there.

~ Daniel

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