Re: New redbook draft for Linux on zSeries

2005-10-03 Thread Istvan Nemeth
Hi!

 http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpieces/abstracts/sg246694.html

I've read in this redbook:

In kernel versions greater than 2.6.9, the I/O scheduler can be selected 
at runtime using the /sys/block/dev/queue/scheduler interface (where dev 
is the DASD device number).

Is it possible to use different I/O scheduler for each dasd?

István

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Re: New redbook draft for Linux on zSeries

2005-10-03 Thread Davis, Larry
 

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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Istvan Nemeth
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Subject: Re: New redbook draft for Linux on zSeries

Hi!

 http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpieces/abstracts/sg246694.html

I've read in this redbook:

In kernel versions greater than 2.6.9, the I/O scheduler can be selected at 
runtime using the /sys/block/dev/queue/scheduler interface (where dev is the 
DASD device number).

Is it possible to use different I/O scheduler for each dasd?

István

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Re: SLES9, SP2 and zipl

2005-10-03 Thread Nix, Robert P.
Your initrd file is corrupted, possibly due to not having enough free space in 
/boot while applying maintenance. We ran into this, and received the same error 
message. Note that the install / maintenance process where the actual error 
occurs produces no error messages or codes, and will happily say that initrd 
was created successfully, even though the process failed miserably.

If you can get a corrected initrd back on to /boot, you should be ok.

At this point, being a pessimistic person, whenever I add maintenance that 
touches the kernel, I run mkinitrd and zipl afterward.


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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bates, Bob
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Subject: SLES9, SP2 and zipl

Hello all,
I have a SLES9 31-bit image I installed a short while back un zVM. I am 
now trying to put the SP2 pack on it using YaST. After I finished I rebooted 
and it would not come up correctly, it appeared to be looking for a file in the 
previous kernel level name. Remembering discussions regarding mksles9root and 
zipl I thought to look for those. I can't find mksles9root but did locate zipl 
and the zipl.conf.

When I ran zipl the system would not boot. Got this error:

RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
RAMDISK: ran out of compressed data
invalid compressed format (err=1)
VFS: Cannot open root device dasda1 or unknown-block(0,0)
Please append a correct root= boot option
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
01: HCPGSP2629I The virtual machine is placed in CP mode due to a SIGP stop

I am trying to figure out what I did wrong, and where I can find more 
information about zipl.conf. I see the options but not an explanation of things 
on the parameter = card.

Any help?
Thanks

Bob Bates
Citigroup Technology Infrastructure
916-374-5017

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Re: SLES9, SP2 and zipl

2005-10-03 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 10/03/2005 at 08:06 EST, Nix, Robert P. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Your initrd file is corrupted, possibly due to not having enough free
space in
 /boot while applying maintenance. We ran into this, and received the
same error
 message. Note that the install / maintenance process where the actual
error
 occurs produces no error messages or codes, and will happily say that
initrd
 was created successfully, even though the process failed miserably.

If you haven't done so, I encourage you to open a bugzilla or report it to
your Linux support provider.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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Getting an odd message when trying to NFS mount the sles9root tree

2005-10-03 Thread James Melin
I have to make a new SLES9 installation server because I'm upgrading the
current sles8 server I use for that to sles9. I get this message:

vadnais:~ # mount -t nfs gsop23nnn09:/cd_images/SLES9/sles9root /sles9root
nfs server reported tcp not available, falling back to udp
Using NFS over UDP can cause data corruption.

Does this mean something is scrozzled on the system I'm mounting it on, or
something is scrozzled on the server where the sles9root exists. I am at a
loss to explain why it is saying TCP is unavailable since I can access both
of those images.

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Re: Getting an odd message when trying to NFS mount the sles9root tree

2005-10-03 Thread McKown, John
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 From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of James Melin
 Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 8:45 AM
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 Subject: Getting an odd message when trying to NFS mount the 
 sles9root tree
 
 
 I have to make a new SLES9 installation server because I'm 
 upgrading the
 current sles8 server I use for that to sles9. I get this message:
 
 vadnais:~ # mount -t nfs 
 gsop23nnn09:/cd_images/SLES9/sles9root /sles9root
 nfs server reported tcp not available, falling back to udp
 Using NFS over UDP can cause data corruption.
 
 Does this mean something is scrozzled on the system I'm 
 mounting it on, or
 something is scrozzled on the server where the sles9root 
 exists. I am at a
 loss to explain why it is saying TCP is unavailable since I 
 can access both
 of those images.

I get that message all the time, with no particular problems.

Originally NFS only used UDP for communications. I guess there is now an
option to allow NFS to use TCP transport as well. Your system is set up
to use the new TCP communications method with fall back to UDP. So it is
telling you about the fall back. I don't know how to tell the NFS server
to use TCP as well as UDP.


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2005-10-03 Thread Moore, Terry A.
Just a reminder that it is time to get your reservations in to me if you
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Re: Getting an odd message when trying to NFS mount the sles9root tree

2005-10-03 Thread Adam Thornton

On Oct 3, 2005, at 8:45 AM, James Melin wrote:


I have to make a new SLES9 installation server because I'm
upgrading the
current sles8 server I use for that to sles9. I get this message:

vadnais:~ # mount -t nfs gsop23nnn09:/cd_images/SLES9/sles9root /
sles9root
nfs server reported tcp not available, falling back to udp
Using NFS over UDP can cause data corruption.

Does this mean something is scrozzled on the system I'm mounting it
on, or
something is scrozzled on the server where the sles9root exists. I
am at a
loss to explain why it is saying TCP is unavailable since I can
access both
of those images.



Probably the server is using a fairly old NFS server using only
NFSv2, or very conservative compatibility settings, or some such.

NFS-over-UDP was the only kind of NFS for a long long time.  Check
the settings for the NFS server on gsop23nnn09, and see what they
are.  The warning is probably harmless: lots of people used NFS over
UDP just fine for many years, and only occasionally did th

NFS server dogbreath not responding; still retrying...

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Re: Getting an odd message when trying to NFS mount the sles9root tree

2005-10-03 Thread David Boyes
 I have to make a new SLES9 installation server because I'm
 upgrading the current sles8 server I use for that to sles9. I
 get this message:

 vadnais:~ # mount -t nfs
 gsop23nnn09:/cd_images/SLES9/sles9root /sles9root nfs server
 reported tcp not available, falling back to udp Using NFS
 over UDP can cause data corruption.

 Does this mean something is scrozzled on the system I'm
 mounting it on, or something is scrozzled on the server where
 the sles9root exists. I am at a loss to explain why it is
 saying TCP is unavailable since I can access both of those images.

While TCP in general may be available, NFS over TCP may not be. It's a
configuration option, and it sounds like whoever installed the NFS server
allowed it to default to NFSv2 which spoke only UDP. Check your NFS server
configuration and make sure NFSv3 is enabled.

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Re: Getting an odd message when trying to NFS mount the sles9root tree

2005-10-03 Thread James Melin
This is a temporary situation and it's an old dusty/crusty linux
installation that is getting replaced as soon as this temporary move of the
SLES9 installation server is accomplished.




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 I have to make a new SLES9 installation server because I'm
 upgrading the current sles8 server I use for that to sles9. I
 get this message:

 vadnais:~ # mount -t nfs
 gsop23nnn09:/cd_images/SLES9/sles9root /sles9root nfs server
 reported tcp not available, falling back to udp Using NFS
 over UDP can cause data corruption.

 Does this mean something is scrozzled on the system I'm
 mounting it on, or something is scrozzled on the server where
 the sles9root exists. I am at a loss to explain why it is
 saying TCP is unavailable since I can access both of those images.

While TCP in general may be available, NFS over TCP may not be. It's a
configuration option, and it sounds like whoever installed the NFS server
allowed it to default to NFSv2 which spoke only UDP. Check your NFS server
configuration and make sure NFSv3 is enabled.

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Re: Getting an odd message when trying to NFS mount ...

2005-10-03 Thread Rick Troth
I see you've gotten several replies.   But no one
specifically addressed this part of the message you're getting:

 Using NFS over UDP can cause data corruption.

I think it would be more accurate to say

Using NFS over UDP with  '-o soft'
 can cause data corruption.

By default,  the hard  option is set for NFS mounts,
so that even when using UDP,  your risk of data corruption
is greatly reduced.

Hard NFS mounts have a problem on the other end of the spectrum:
If the server from which you mounted that vol goes down,
then your client is hung until it comes back.   That is,
rather than risk data corruption,  you are more likely to
get stuck depending on another host.   THe soft option
is a way around THIS problem,  but leads to the potential
for data corruption.

Probably more info than you wanted.

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Re: SLES9, SP2 and zipl

2005-10-03 Thread Nix, Robert P.
We have support through IBM. The ETR was closed and has fallen off my radar, 
but the gist of the response was make /boot bigger. They did say that they'd 
forward to Novell the fact that maintenance can fail without any error 
indication, but as the ETR was closed, we'll never know if this is addressed 
down the road...


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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 8:45 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: SLES9, SP2 and zipl

On Monday, 10/03/2005 at 08:06 EST, Nix, Robert P. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Your initrd file is corrupted, possibly due to not having enough free
space in
 /boot while applying maintenance. We ran into this, and received the
same error
 message. Note that the install / maintenance process where the actual
error
 occurs produces no error messages or codes, and will happily say that
initrd
 was created successfully, even though the process failed miserably.

If you haven't done so, I encourage you to open a bugzilla or report it to
your Linux support provider.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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Re: SLES9, SP2 and zipl

2005-10-03 Thread Bates, Bob
Thanks again

I ran mkinitrd and zipl and the system came up without a problem. I'll look 
into increasing /boot.

Bob Bates 

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Nix, Robert P.
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 1:26 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: SLES9, SP2 and zipl


We have support through IBM. The ETR was closed and has fallen off my radar, 
but the gist of the response was make /boot bigger. They did say that they'd 
forward to Novell the fact that maintenance can fail without any error 
indication, but as the ETR was closed, we'll never know if this is addressed 
down the road...


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-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 8:45 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: SLES9, SP2 and zipl

On Monday, 10/03/2005 at 08:06 EST, Nix, Robert P. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Your initrd file is corrupted, possibly due to not having enough free
space in
 /boot while applying maintenance. We ran into this, and received the
same error
 message. Note that the install / maintenance process where the actual
error
 occurs produces no error messages or codes, and will happily say that
initrd
 was created successfully, even though the process failed miserably.

If you haven't done so, I encourage you to open a bugzilla or report it to
your Linux support provider.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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