Re: VM 5.2 and SLES 9 SP3
Hi, uname -a Linux lnxpb 2.6.5-7.244-s390x #1 SMP Mon Dec 12 18:32:25 UTC 2005 s390x s390x s390x GNU/Linux dmesg after ipl Linux version 2.6.5-7.244-s390x ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.3 (SuSE Linux)) #1 SMP Mon Dec 12 18:32:25 UTC 2005 We are running under VM (64 bit mode) On node 0 totalpages: 262144 DMA zone: 262144 pages, LIFO batch:31 Normal zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1 HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1 Built 1 zonelists Kernel command line: dasd=82a9 root=/dev/dasda1 VMPOFF=LOGOFF VMHALT=LOGOFF selinux=0 TERM=dumb elevator=cfq BOOT_IMAGE=0 PID hash table entries: 4096 (order 12: 65536 bytes) CKRM Initialization .. Initializing ClassTypetaskclass .. Initializing ClassTypesocketclass CKRM Initialization done Dentry cache hash table entries: 262144 (order: 9, 2097152 bytes) Inode-cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 8, 1048576 bytes) Memory: 1019136k/1048576k available (3456k kernel code, 0k reserved, 1075k data, 116k init) Calibrating delay loop... 2772.17 BogoMIPS Calibrating delay loop... 2831.15 BogoMIPS Calibrating delay loop... 2837.70 BogoMIPS Security Scaffold v1.0.0 initialized SELinux: Disabled at boot. Mount-cache hash table entries: 256 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) Detected 1 CPU's Boot cpu address 0 cpu 0 phys_idx=0 vers=FF ident=022AED machine=2096 unused=8000 Brought up 1 CPUs checking if image is initramfs...it isn't (no cpio magic); looks like an initrd Freeing initrd memory: 1493k freed khelper: max 64 concurrent processes debug: Initialization complete resid is -1 name is io NULL CKRM .. create res clsobj for resouce ioclass taskclass par= NET: Registered protocol family 16 VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1 Initializing Cryptographic API RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 32768K size 1024 blocksize loop: loaded (max 8 devices) md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27 Channel measurement facility using extended format (autodetected) NET: Registered protocol family 2 IP: routing cache hash table of 4096 buckets, 64Kbytes TCP established hash table entries: 131072 (order: 9, 3145728 bytes) TCP bind hash table entries: 65536 (order: 8, 1048576 bytes) TCP: Hash tables configured (established 131072 bind 65536) NET: Registered protocol family 1 resid is -1 name is cpu NULL CKRM .. create res clsobj for resouce cpuclass taskclass par= init_ckrm_sched_res , resid= 5 md: Autodetecting RAID arrays. md: autorun ... md: ... autorun DONE. RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0 VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem). dasd(eckd): 0.0.82a9: 3390/0A(CU:3990/01) Cyl:3339 Head:15 Sec:224 Using cfq io scheduler dasd(eckd): 0.0.82a9: (4kB blks): 2404080kB at 48kB/trk compatible disk layout dasda:VOL1/ 0X2119: dasda1 EXT2-fs warning (device dasda1): ext2_fill_super: mounting ext3 filesystem as ext2 VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. Trying to move old root to /initrd ... /initrd does not exist. Ignored. Unmounting old root Trying to free ramdisk memory ... okay Freeing unused kernel memory: 116k freed md: Autodetecting RAID arrays. md: autorun ... md: ... autorun DONE. device-mapper: Allocated new minor_bits array for 1024 devices device-mapper: 4.4.0-ioctl (2005-01-12) initialised: [EMAIL PROTECTED] qdio: loading QDIO base support version 2 ($Revision: 1.79.2.9 $/$Revision: 1.57 $/$Revision: 1.23.2.2 $) qeth: loading qeth S/390 OSA-Express driver ($Revision: 1.77.2.60 $/$Revision: 1.98.2.28 $/$Revision: 1.27.2.9 $/$Revision: 1.8.2.2 $/$Revision: 1.7.2.3 $/$Revision: 1.5.2.6 $/$Revision: 1.19.2.17 $ :IPv6 :VLAN) qeth: Device 0.0.0720/0.0.0721/0.0.0722 is a Guest LAN QDIO card (level: V522) with link type GuestLAN QDIO (portname: PORTFE00) qeth: Hardware IP fragmentation not supported on eth0 qeth: Inbound source address not supported on eth0 qeth: VLAN enabled qeth: Multicast enabled qeth: IPV6 enabled qeth: Broadcast enabled qeth: Using SW checksumming on eth0. qeth: Outbound TSO not supported on eth0 NET: Registered protocol family 10 IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver SCSI subsystem initialized st: Version 20040318, fixed bufsize 32768, s/g segs 256 eth0: no IPv6 routers present dmesg after reboot Linux version 2.6.5-7.244-s390x ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.3 (SuSE Linux)) #1 SMP Mon Dec 12 18:32:25 UTC 2005 We are running under VM (64 bit mode) On node 0 totalpages: 262144 DMA zone: 262144 pages, LIFO batch:31 Normal zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1 HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1 Built 1 zonelists Kernel command line: dasd=82a9 root=/dev/dasda1 VMPOFF=LOGOFF VMHALT=LOGOFF selinux=0 TERM=dumb elevator=cfq BOOT_IMAGE=0 PID hash table entries: 4096 (order 12: 65536 bytes) CKRM Initialization .. Initializing ClassTypetaskclass .. Initializing ClassTypesocketclass CKRM Initialization done Dentry cache hash table entries: 262144 (order: 9, 2097152 bytes) Inode-cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 8, 1048576 bytes) Memory: 1019136k/1048576k
how to add a network device
Hi, This (how to add a network device) is described here: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-4-Manual/s390-multi-i nstall-guide/s1-s390info-addnetdevice.html and this is how I created a hsi0 hipersocket device. Now the problem is: I noticed at rebooting that the following happens (excerpt from log): May 16 05:20:34 dinotest network: Bringing up interface eth0: succeeded May 16 05:20:35 dinotest ifup: cannot change name of lo to hsi0: Device or resource busy May 16 05:20:35 dinotest ifup: May 16 05:20:35 dinotest ifup: cannot change name of lo to dev20571: Device or resource busy May 16 05:28:31 dinotest sag1argev: 5:28:31 (23819) May 16 05:20:35 dinotest ifup: cannot parse MAC ` lo May 16 11:24:07 dino ifup: hsi0 hsi0 dev16279' at argument 2 May 16 11:24:07 dino ifup: interface 'dev20366' not found May 16 11:24:07 dino ifup: interface 'dev18583' not found May 16 11:24:07 dino ifup: interface 'dev14319' not found May 16 11:24:07 dino ifup: interface 'dev17517' not found ... and so on, almost indefinitely (device 'devx not found')... booting lasts a while, is then ready, and hsi0 is not active of course. I consulted red hat support, they told me I should use the tool system-network-config instead of editing manually. However, the command seems to be able to import and export some (config?) files, but what else? How to define a new device with it? I can't find any description of the tool. Anyone having an idea what I should do? Why not edit manually and if not, how? I am helplessly confused. My ifcfg-hsi0 looks like this: DEVICE=hsi0 HWADDR=00:00:00:00:00:00 BOOTPROTO=static IPADDR=192.168.60.5 NETMASK=255.255.255.192 NETTYPE=qeth ONBOOT=yes SUBCHANNELS=0.0.0a0b,0.0.0a0c,0.0.0a0d TYPE=Ethernet thanks and regards Anna ~~ Dr. Anna Fuhrmann Systemprogrammierung Mainframe MA 14-ADV * Magistrat der Stadt Wien +43 1 4000 91639 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SLES10 Minimal Graphical System Equivalent?
--- Mark Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 7:23 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Lee Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all... If I understand right, there is no way on SLES10 to do an install similar to SLES9's Minimal graphical system (without KDE) unless you do it manually, right? I don't believe that is correct. The same installation option should be available for SLES10. SLES10 installer doesn't offer minimal graphical system (without KDE) as SLES9 did. However, if vncserver is enough, I use only base system and 31 compat libraries (so only two checks in installer) and I can install whatever product which needs X interface. Using vncserver. Check Virtualization Cookbook for SLES10, it is all there, also list of unneeded packages. Marian Gasparovic IBM Slovakia Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Changing OSA portname.
This is from a SuSE 9 system. Here are the files that have the portname: /etc/sysconfig/hardware/scripts/chandev-to-hwcfg.sh /etc/sysconfig/hardware/scripts/hwup-qeth /etc/sysconfig/SuSEfirewall2 Thanks, Gary L. Detro Senior IT Specialist 1177 S. Belt Line Rd; Coppell, TX 75019 Internal Mail Stop: 77-01-3001O; Coppell, TX Phone: 469-549-8174 (t/l 603-8174); Fax: 469-549-8235 (t/l 603-8235) Send me an email [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Global Solution Center Mark Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 05/21/2007 02:45 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: Changing OSA portname. On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 1:27 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Peter Rothman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks. At this time we only have 6 Linux systems - 3 on each OSA card. So only 3 have to change. Excuse the ignorance but how/where do I change the system to 'not specify' a OSA portname. I looked thru the YAST menus but cannot find it. Not sure how you would do it on the z/OS side (if it's being shared there), but in YaST: yast - Network Devices - Network Card For SLES9 Tab to the Change option for the Already configured devices frame Make sure the cursor is on the OSA Tab to the Edit option, hit enter Tab to the Detailed Settings - Advanced field Down-arrow to the S/390 option, hit enter For SLES10 Network Setup Method - next Tab to the frame with the device in it. Make sure the cursor is on the OSA. Tab to the Edit option, hit enter Tab to the Detailed Settings - Advanced field Down-arrow to the S/390 option, hit enter Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 image/jpegimage/jpeg
Re: how to add a network device
The system-config-network tool doesn't really work on System z Linux. It's works great on x86 but when I last checked it had no idea how to handle the various types of networking devices available on s390/s390x. Post-install you usually need to do exactly what you did to add new network devices - echo things to /sys and then create an ifcfg file. A few things that come to mind: * Did you add the 'alias hsi0 qeth' line to /etc/modprobe.conf before rebooting? * If you rename the ifcfg-hsi0 file to ifcfg-hsi0.bak and reboot/restart networking, does everything else come up correctly? If not, it would suggest that some of the other ifcfg-* files were munged or that your ifcfg-hsi0 has conflicting settings. * Try removing the HWADDR=00:00:00:00 line from the ifcfg-hsi0 file and rebooting. If it comes up fine and you really want the hardware address specified in there, run `ifconfig hsi0` and use the specific MAC address. ks On 5/22/07, Fuhrmann Anna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, This (how to add a network device) is described here: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-4-Manual/s390-multi-i nstall-guide/s1-s390info-addnetdevice.html and this is how I created a hsi0 hipersocket device. Now the problem is: I noticed at rebooting that the following happens (excerpt from log): May 16 05:20:34 dinotest network: Bringing up interface eth0: succeeded May 16 05:20:35 dinotest ifup: cannot change name of lo to hsi0: Device or resource busy May 16 05:20:35 dinotest ifup: May 16 05:20:35 dinotest ifup: cannot change name of lo to dev20571: Device or resource busy May 16 05:28:31 dinotest sag1argev: 5:28:31 (23819) May 16 05:20:35 dinotest ifup: cannot parse MAC ` lo May 16 11:24:07 dino ifup: hsi0 hsi0 dev16279' at argument 2 May 16 11:24:07 dino ifup: interface 'dev20366' not found May 16 11:24:07 dino ifup: interface 'dev18583' not found May 16 11:24:07 dino ifup: interface 'dev14319' not found May 16 11:24:07 dino ifup: interface 'dev17517' not found ... and so on, almost indefinitely (device 'devx not found')... booting lasts a while, is then ready, and hsi0 is not active of course. I consulted red hat support, they told me I should use the tool system-network-config instead of editing manually. However, the command seems to be able to import and export some (config?) files, but what else? How to define a new device with it? I can't find any description of the tool. Anyone having an idea what I should do? Why not edit manually and if not, how? I am helplessly confused. My ifcfg-hsi0 looks like this: DEVICE=hsi0 HWADDR=00:00:00:00:00:00 BOOTPROTO=static IPADDR=192.168.60.5 NETMASK=255.255.255.192 NETTYPE=qeth ONBOOT=yes SUBCHANNELS=0.0.0a0b,0.0.0a0c,0.0.0a0d TYPE=Ethernet thanks and regards Anna -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: RedHat and NFS mounts of SFS
Hi Betsie, Not quite the same, but I can successfully mount a BFS file system and write a file to it using CentOS 4.4 at the same kernel and nfs-utils levels as you. I remember having some time out problems when I set it up, and resolved it by adding an entry to /etc/hosts for VM, so it used the local IP address, instead of the DNS address, which faced the rest of the network. (10.199.103.5, instead of 10.199.3.48, Linux is 10.199.103.6). Peter -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Spann, Elizebeth (Betsie) Sent: May 21, 2007 16:36 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: RedHat and NFS mounts of SFS Hi All, My RedHat AS 4 system at kernel level 2.6.9-42 and nfs-utils-1.0.6-70 times out trying to mount an SFS file. IBM's test system at kernel level 2.6.9-5 and nfs-utils-1.0.6-46 does mount successfully.A trace shows the Linux system sending a null procedure to VMNFS which sends back a response. Nothing happens after that. If anyone running RHEL AS 4 can NFS mount an SFS file system, please let me know what kernel level and nfs level you are running. Thank you, Betsie -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review retransmission dissemination or other use of or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient or delegate is strictly prohibited. If you received this in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. The integrity and security of this message cannot by guaranteed on the Internet. The Sender accepts no liability for the content of this e-mail or for the consequences of any actions taken on basis of the information provided. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The sender accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. This disclaimer is the property of the TTC and must not be altered or circumvented in any manner. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
OK - a really stupid question.
Yes, I know this will be a stupid question. But I will ask anyway because I have no fear (or was that no sense?). A zAAP engine is used by z/OS to run Java code. The only reason for such an engine was because of the CPU demands of Java and the fact that adding the required CPU power using a general purpose engine would drive up the other software costs. That is, a zAAP engine is a marketing ploy to sell Java (an maybe some other Java-dependant software such as WAS). It is not a solution to a technical problem with Java on z/OS. Therefore, there is no need/reason for Linux on System z to ever support a zAAP (or zIIP or other specialty engine which is marketing oriented). True? OK, why the stupid question? I am hoping (perhaps in vain) that eventually we may get a zAAP to do Java work on z/OS and to get back my IFL (lost during our z9BC upgrade due to lack of interest) for possible Linux on System z work. Our current management incarnation is very open towards Linux. But they still act like Linux only runs on Intel. Well, it beats the previous Windows is the solution to every problem! attitude of the previous management group. Anyway, I am fairly sure that somebody in management is going to ask something like: Why can't I run z/OS Java on an IFL? or Why can't I run z/Linux on a zAAP?. I.e. they'll want to get a single speciality CP to do both z/Linux and z/OS Java. This in order to reduce hardware costs. I know they are not expensive, compared to a general CP, but we are very cost conscious, as is reasonable. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: RedHat and NFS mounts of SFS
Brad, A default install of VM has a small SFS system. Userids are VMSERVR, VMSERVS (filepool VMSYS) and VMSERVU (filepool VMSYSU). Do you have a zVM system available? Betsie -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Hinson Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 6:06 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: RedHat and NFS mounts of SFS I'm trying to set this up to play around with SFS. I'm reading over CMS File Pool Planning, Administration, and Operation here: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/hcsi3b10.pdf Is there a shortcut somewhere to setting this up? How can I get a 'quick dirty' SFS share going without reading this entire book? Thanks, -Brad On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 13:35 -0700, Spann, Elizebeth (Betsie) wrote: Hi All, My RedHat AS 4 system at kernel level 2.6.9-42 and nfs-utils-1.0.6-70 times out trying to mount an SFS file. IBM's test system at kernel level 2.6.9-5 and nfs-utils-1.0.6-46 does mount successfully.A trace shows the Linux system sending a null procedure to VMNFS which sends back a response. Nothing happens after that. If anyone running RHEL AS 4 can NFS mount an SFS file system, please let me know what kernel level and nfs level you are running. Thank you, Betsie -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Brad Hinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Account Manager Red Hat, Inc. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: OK - a really stupid question.
John, yes you are correct. zAAPs and zIIPs are ment to lower TCO of new workload on z/OS. For Linux you have IFL which is MUCH cheaper than regular CP. And what is important, it is alway full speed engine regardless of speed of your subcapacity CPs. (same applies to zIIP and zAAP). And if they ask why you cannot run Linux on zAAP - because there is a microcode change which prevents IPL on zAAP and zIIP :) HTH Marian --- McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I know this will be a stupid question. But I will ask anyway because I have no fear (or was that no sense?). A zAAP engine is used by z/OS to run Java code. The only reason for such an engine was because of the CPU demands of Java and the fact that adding the required CPU power using a general purpose engine would drive up the other software costs. That is, a zAAP engine is a marketing ploy to sell Java (an maybe some other Java-dependant software such as WAS). It is not a solution to a technical problem with Java on z/OS. Therefore, there is no need/reason for Linux on System z to ever support a zAAP (or zIIP or other specialty engine which is marketing oriented). True? OK, why the stupid question? I am hoping (perhaps in vain) that eventually we may get a zAAP to do Java work on z/OS and to get back my IFL (lost during our z9BC upgrade due to lack of interest) for possible Linux on System z work. Our current management incarnation is very open towards Linux. But they still act like Linux only runs on Intel. Well, it beats the previous Windows is the solution to every problem! attitude of the previous management group. Anyway, I am fairly sure that somebody in management is going to ask something like: Why can't I run z/OS Java on an IFL? or Why can't I run z/Linux on a zAAP?. I.e. they'll want to get a single speciality CP to do both z/Linux and z/OS Java. This in order to reduce hardware costs. I know they are not expensive, compared to a general CP, but we are very cost conscious, as is reasonable. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_html.html -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: OK - a really stupid question.
Hi, John. No such thing as a stupid question, imhostupid answers, maybe;-) McKown, John wrote: Yes, I know this will be a stupid question. But I will ask anyway because I have no fear (or was that no sense?). A zAAP engine is used by z/OS to run Java code. The only reason for such an engine was because of the CPU demands of Java and the fact that adding the required CPU power using a general purpose engine would drive up the other software costs. That is, a zAAP engine is a marketing ploy to sell Java (an maybe some other Java-dependant software such as WAS). It is not a solution to a technical problem with Java on z/OS. Therefore, there is no need/reason for Linux on System z to ever support a zAAP (or zIIP or other specialty engine which is marketing oriented). True? True. All of the specialty engines now available are meant as a way to add horsepower to a zSeries box without increasing the software costs, from both IBM and 3rd party ISVs, associated with the normal workload being run on the standard engines.. While it might be nice if Linux, running on an IFL, could dispatch a Java process on a zAAP, it is not a requirement. I would think the performance gain might be worthwhile, especially if the Linux guest was running Websphere. OK, why the stupid question? I am hoping (perhaps in vain) that eventually we may get a zAAP to do Java work on z/OS and to get back my IFL (lost during our z9BC upgrade due to lack of interest) for possible Linux on System z work. Our current management incarnation is very open towards Linux. But they still act like Linux only runs on Intel. Well, it beats the previous Windows is the solution to every problem! attitude of the previous management group. Anyway, I am fairly sure that somebody in management is going to ask something like: Why can't I run z/OS Java on an IFL? or Why can't I run z/Linux on a zAAP?. I.e. they'll want to get a single speciality CP to do both z/Linux and z/OS Java. This in order to reduce hardware costs. I know they are not expensive, compared to a general CP, but we are very cost conscious, as is reasonable. Go talk to IBM, they might be able to give you some options that we are not aware of yet. IBM has designed these specialty engines in such a manner that they can *not* run general purpose workloads, e.g., the IFL is missing an instruction that z/OS requires in order to IPL, so 3rd party ISVs can be assured that their applications will not run there. The zAAP processor may be designed such that it supports only those instructions that are used by the Java vm, and may not be capable of running zLinux at all. Hope this helps. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology -- DJ V/Soft -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: OK - a really stupid question.
On 5/22/07 9:36 AM, Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While it might be nice if Linux, running on an IFL, could dispatch a Java process on a zAAP, it is not a requirement. I would think the performance gain might be worthwhile, especially if the Linux guest was running Websphere. Actually, there's really no good reason to do so. The zAAP engine would have to be shared between z/OS and z/VM, watering down its performance and usefulness for both, and z/VM would benefit more from an additional IFL which could be shared among all its workload than the zAAP which is isolated to just Java. There is no cost benefit for supporting zAAPs on z/VM. (Again, discounting the miserly sharing of the resource instead of dedicating it to z/OS). Ultimately, the z/OS folks would not recognize the usefulness of the zAAP, since it wouldn't effectively address their workload well, and it would likely be dropped in favor of a real CP, leaving z/VM without. Keep z/OS and z/VM separate, and budget what you need for both; otherwise, the penny saved will come back at you as dollars wasted. -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OE-5-55200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: OK - a really stupid question.
We were recently in a similar exercise - but on z890. The particular box we were putting the last LPAR on had 1 couple facility, 1 z/OS lpar with 2 cp, and 1 free processor. Had to add a new lpar with DB2, WebSphere, etc on z/OS for a grandiose scheme from upper levels. Original scheme from above was for the new lpar, we will take a portion of the 2 cp currently in use, use the free cp as a zAAP for WebSphere relief - oh, and we may want it to double as a zIIP for DB2 relief and maybe allocate a portion of it to a z/Linux lpar later !. My statement of I don't believe that will work was not well received and the scheme moved forward until contact was made with the IBM SE. After his private rant to me - that I fully agreed with, in private of course, - the SE politely explained in simple terms to above that the choice of which microcode to turn on made the processor exclusively one type. The choices were : 1) general cp with the attendant increase in software license cost, 2) zAAP to assist the java workload ( and CA attempting to figure how to bill extra anyway ), 3) zIIP to assist the DB2 workload ( again, CA trying to figure how to bill for that ), 4) IFL in a separate LPAR for z/Linux or VM+z/Linux with z/OS n'er to be seen, or 4) another couple facility. The selection is definitely and either or proposition. Decision was for a zAAP since WebSphere, Portal, and Process Server ( wth ? ) are required to do the most work for this scheme. Maybe a z/9 will be in our near futuremaybe not. McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] thmarkets.com To Sent by: Linux on LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 390 Port cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU Subject OK - a really stupid question. 05/22/2007 09:21 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU Yes, I know this will be a stupid question. But I will ask anyway because I have no fear (or was that no sense?). A zAAP engine is used by z/OS to run Java code. The only reason for such an engine was because of the CPU demands of Java and the fact that adding the required CPU power using a general purpose engine would drive up the other software costs. That is, a zAAP engine is a marketing ploy to sell Java (an maybe some other Java-dependant software such as WAS). It is not a solution to a technical problem with Java on z/OS. Therefore, there is no need/reason for Linux on System z to ever support a zAAP (or zIIP or other specialty engine which is marketing oriented). True? OK, why the stupid question? I am hoping (perhaps in vain) that eventually we may get a zAAP to do Java work on z/OS and to get back my IFL (lost during our z9BC upgrade due to lack of interest) for possible Linux on System z work. Our current management incarnation is very open towards Linux. But they still act like Linux only runs on Intel. Well, it beats the previous Windows is the solution to every problem! attitude of the previous management group. Anyway, I am fairly sure that somebody in management is going to ask something like: Why can't I run z/OS Java on an IFL? or Why can't I run z/Linux on a zAAP?. I.e. they'll want to get a single speciality CP to do both z/Linux and z/OS Java. This in order to reduce hardware costs. I know they are not expensive, compared to a general CP, but we are very cost conscious, as is reasonable. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
About the former 9672 family and of things z/VM and Linux
Hello! Would someone please correct this assertion, or even refute it? According to what I remember from earlier discussions, a 9672 family member is a 32 bit machine, and can only run releases of z/VM leading up to probably 4.4. And amongst the Linux distributions out there, only ones who still contain 32 bit based kernels. And of course they have the standard I/O channels. Earlier in the week I ran a search for the term OEMI on the IBM website and got a smattering of usual hits, one such discussed that family and covered what it was capable of doing, it confirmed that it was discontinued around the turn of the century in favor of the majority of machines out there today. I am looking at furthering my interests in things Linux and certainly z/VM and regular VM, and for those reasons concerning the I/O channels, and naturally that was an interesting family of machines. For those of you who are interested, please contact me off-list, Adam, David B, certainly you both might be interested. -- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] This signature was once found posting rude messages in English in the Moscow subway. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: how to add a network device
Thank you so much. The system-config-network-tool has been suggested to me by the official Red Hat support team *gg* - though they know very well that we have z-linux. Today I deleted the ifcfg-hsi0 file, and created a new one, vi-editing it very very very carefully ... and now everything is fine. As to the MAC-Address: you mean I don't need it? then I'll delete it. May I ask something else: we have two zlinux partitions, one for testing and one for production. In each of these partitions I activated hsi0. Defined a subnet for them - *ONE* subnet for the two his0's in these two partitions (same goes for the two eth0's in these two partitions). Is that all right, the two hsi's sharing so to speak one subnet? Thx and regards Anna -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port on behalf of Kyle Smith *EXTERN* Sent: Tue 5/22/2007 3:21 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: how to add a network device The system-config-network tool doesn't really work on System z Linux. It's works great on x86 but when I last checked it had no idea how to handle the various types of networking devices available on s390/s390x. Post-install you usually need to do exactly what you did to add new network devices - echo things to /sys and then create an ifcfg file. A few things that come to mind: * Did you add the 'alias hsi0 qeth' line to /etc/modprobe.conf before rebooting? * If you rename the ifcfg-hsi0 file to ifcfg-hsi0.bak and reboot/restart networking, does everything else come up correctly? If not, it would suggest that some of the other ifcfg-* files were munged or that your ifcfg-hsi0 has conflicting settings. * Try removing the HWADDR=00:00:00:00 line from the ifcfg-hsi0 file and rebooting. If it comes up fine and you really want the hardware address specified in there, run `ifconfig hsi0` and use the specific MAC address. ks On 5/22/07, Fuhrmann Anna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, This (how to add a network device) is described here: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-4-Manual/s390-multi-i nstall-guide/s1-s390info-addnetdevice.html and this is how I created a hsi0 hipersocket device. Now the problem is: I noticed at rebooting that the following happens (excerpt from log): May 16 05:20:34 dinotest network: Bringing up interface eth0: succeeded May 16 05:20:35 dinotest ifup: cannot change name of lo to hsi0: Device or resource busy May 16 05:20:35 dinotest ifup: May 16 05:20:35 dinotest ifup: cannot change name of lo to dev20571: Device or resource busy May 16 05:28:31 dinotest sag1argev: 5:28:31 (23819) May 16 05:20:35 dinotest ifup: cannot parse MAC ` lo May 16 11:24:07 dino ifup: hsi0 hsi0 dev16279' at argument 2 May 16 11:24:07 dino ifup: interface 'dev20366' not found May 16 11:24:07 dino ifup: interface 'dev18583' not found May 16 11:24:07 dino ifup: interface 'dev14319' not found May 16 11:24:07 dino ifup: interface 'dev17517' not found ... and so on, almost indefinitely (device 'devx not found')... booting lasts a while, is then ready, and hsi0 is not active of course. I consulted red hat support, they told me I should use the tool system-network-config instead of editing manually. However, the command seems to be able to import and export some (config?) files, but what else? How to define a new device with it? I can't find any description of the tool. Anyone having an idea what I should do? Why not edit manually and if not, how? I am helplessly confused. My ifcfg-hsi0 looks like this: DEVICE=hsi0 HWADDR=00:00:00:00:00:00 BOOTPROTO=static IPADDR=192.168.60.5 NETMASK=255.255.255.192 NETTYPE=qeth ONBOOT=yes SUBCHANNELS=0.0.0a0b,0.0.0a0c,0.0.0a0d TYPE=Ethernet thanks and regards Anna -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
java install question
We have run into what some seem to think is a Java problem, so we were asked to upgrade. Currently we are running: rpm -qa |grep sun java-1_4_2-sun-plugin-1.4.2.11-1.1 java-1_4_2-sun-1.4.2.11-1.1 So I went to the download site and downloaded : j2re-1_4_2_14-linux-i586.rpm I followed the directions to install it from: www.java.com/en/download/help/linux_install.xml#install Made a change to my java.conf file,amoung other things, and then tried the app. It still fails, so I do another rpm -qa |grep sun fully expecting to see the java...14 version,but it still shows the old(above) display. I then rebooted but that didn't help. I thought maybe some here could help. thanks Mace Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: how to add a network device
You should be fine putting the hipersockets into the same subnet. We did something very similar, except we put two groups of hipersocket addresses on two CHPids. FD and FE. the FE chpids and the FD chpids are each on their own subnet. This was to isolate test and prod hipersocket systems in Linux so that Shadow Direct, RACFLDAP and other traffic could be isolated to their own pipe. Fuhrmann Anna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc 05/22/2007 12:29 PM Subject Re: how to add a network device Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Thank you so much. The system-config-network-tool has been suggested to me by the official Red Hat support team *gg* - though they know very well that we have z-linux. Today I deleted the ifcfg-hsi0 file, and created a new one, vi-editing it very very very carefully ... and now everything is fine. As to the MAC-Address: you mean I don't need it? then I'll delete it. May I ask something else: we have two zlinux partitions, one for testing and one for production. In each of these partitions I activated hsi0. Defined a subnet for them - *ONE* subnet for the two his0's in these two partitions (same goes for the two eth0's in these two partitions). Is that all right, the two hsi's sharing so to speak one subnet? Thx and regards Anna -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port on behalf of Kyle Smith *EXTERN* Sent: Tue 5/22/2007 3:21 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: how to add a network device The system-config-network tool doesn't really work on System z Linux. It's works great on x86 but when I last checked it had no idea how to handle the various types of networking devices available on s390/s390x. Post-install you usually need to do exactly what you did to add new network devices - echo things to /sys and then create an ifcfg file. A few things that come to mind: * Did you add the 'alias hsi0 qeth' line to /etc/modprobe.conf before rebooting? * If you rename the ifcfg-hsi0 file to ifcfg-hsi0.bak and reboot/restart networking, does everything else come up correctly? If not, it would suggest that some of the other ifcfg-* files were munged or that your ifcfg-hsi0 has conflicting settings. * Try removing the HWADDR=00:00:00:00 line from the ifcfg-hsi0 file and rebooting. If it comes up fine and you really want the hardware address specified in there, run `ifconfig hsi0` and use the specific MAC address. ks On 5/22/07, Fuhrmann Anna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, This (how to add a network device) is described here: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-4-Manual/s390-multi-i nstall-guide/s1-s390info-addnetdevice.html and this is how I created a hsi0 hipersocket device. Now the problem is: I noticed at rebooting that the following happens (excerpt from log): May 16 05:20:34 dinotest network: Bringing up interface eth0: succeeded May 16 05:20:35 dinotest ifup: cannot change name of lo to hsi0: Device or resource busy May 16 05:20:35 dinotest ifup: May 16 05:20:35 dinotest ifup: cannot change name of lo to dev20571: Device or resource busy May 16 05:28:31 dinotest sag1argev: 5:28:31 (23819) May 16 05:20:35 dinotest ifup: cannot parse MAC ` lo May 16 11:24:07 dino ifup: hsi0 hsi0 dev16279' at argument 2 May 16 11:24:07 dino ifup: interface 'dev20366' not found May 16 11:24:07 dino ifup: interface 'dev18583' not found May 16 11:24:07 dino ifup: interface 'dev14319' not found May 16 11:24:07 dino ifup: interface 'dev17517' not found ... and so on, almost indefinitely (device 'devx not found')... booting lasts a while, is then ready, and hsi0 is not active of course. I consulted red hat support, they told me I should use the tool system-network-config instead of editing manually. However, the command seems to be able to import and export some (config?) files, but what else? How to define a new device with it? I can't find any description of the tool. Anyone having an idea what I should do? Why not edit manually and if not, how? I am helplessly confused. My ifcfg-hsi0 looks like this: DEVICE=hsi0 HWADDR=00:00:00:00:00:00 BOOTPROTO=static IPADDR=192.168.60.5 NETMASK=255.255.255.192 NETTYPE=qeth ONBOOT=yes SUBCHANNELS=0.0.0a0b,0.0.0a0c,0.0.0a0d TYPE=Ethernet
CUPS printing help
I am running Slack/390 10.1 in an LPAR. I am trying to use CUPS to set up a network printer. I commented out the following lines in the cupsd.conf file that restrict remote CUPS admin and require authentication. Order deny,allow Deny from all Allow from 127.0.0.1 AuthType Basic AuthClass System I am now able to get to the main admin page at myip:631/admin, but none of the images on the page are being displayed. I can get to the add new printer and add new classes pages, but when I attempt to access the manage printers and manage classes pages, I get an http 403 forbidden error. I appreciate any help or suggestions. Russ Jones ANPAC -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: java install question
-Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LJ Mace Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 12:47 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: java install question We have run into what some seem to think is a Java problem, so we were asked to upgrade. Currently we are running: rpm -qa |grep sun java-1_4_2-sun-plugin-1.4.2.11-1.1 java-1_4_2-sun-1.4.2.11-1.1 So I went to the download site and downloaded : j2re-1_4_2_14-linux-i586.rpm I followed the directions to install it from: www.java.com/en/download/help/linux_install.xml#install Made a change to my java.conf file,amoung other things, and then tried the app. It still fails, so I do another rpm -qa |grep sun fully expecting to see the java...14 version,but it still shows the old(above) display. I then rebooted but that didn't help. I thought maybe some here could help. thanks Mace Ah, you need a s390 or s390x version, not i586 (Intel). I'm amazed that rpm allowed you to install it! -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: java install question
You need to install the IBM Linux version on the jdk for s/390. You can find it here. http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/ You will be required to set up an account on the web site before you can download the jdk. Russ -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LJ Mace Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 12:47 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: java install question We have run into what some seem to think is a Java problem, so we were asked to upgrade. Currently we are running: rpm -qa |grep sun java-1_4_2-sun-plugin-1.4.2.11-1.1 java-1_4_2-sun-1.4.2.11-1.1 So I went to the download site and downloaded : j2re-1_4_2_14-linux-i586.rpm I followed the directions to install it from: www.java.com/en/download/help/linux_install.xml#install Made a change to my java.conf file,amoung other things, and then tried the app. It still fails, so I do another rpm -qa |grep sun fully expecting to see the java...14 version,but it still shows the old(above) display. I then rebooted but that didn't help. I thought maybe some here could help. thanks Mace Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
SLES10, net-snmp, and Velocity
SLES10 comes with its own version of net-snmp (5.3.0). Velocity seems to provide a version of net-snmp for SLES10 (5.2.2). SuSE has made it microscopically difficult to remove their net-snmp by placing upon it a dependency from hplip. I would like to make it clear that this is a dependency I do not care about in the least. However, I do want to dot all my i's. So. In the search for a more perfect enlightenment, thus: is there any particular reason why we should not (or would not want to) use SuSE's net-snmp with Velocity? Are there customizations present in Velocity's RPM which we would need? Are there support requirements from Velocity's perspective, to use their net-snmp package? Thanks; ok r. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: VM 5.2 and SLES 9 SP3
On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 3:11 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Adam Gill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, uname -a Linux lnxpb 2.6.5-7.244-s390x #1 SMP Mon Dec 12 18:32:25 UTC 2005 s390x s390x s390x GNU/Linux dmesg after ipl Those two logs are almost identical. Both of them show the NIC activating. What happens if you do an: ifconfig -a ifup eth0 ?? Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SLES10, net-snmp, and Velocity
The version of netsnmp that is provided by Velocity Software includes many updates as well as testing. The issues in a z virtual environment is 1) overhead, 2) validity of data, and 3) complete information. Some of the mibs provided by the base snmp are expensive to utilize but still important, and the mibs provide incomplete data if you have a mainframe mentality where capture ratio is important. By replacing expensive mibs, and adding a significant amount of new metrices, capture ratio becomes very high and operational costs are reduced. SLES10 does have some new accounting features for which I've seen no validation. The reports and displays created that require the Velocity Software version are ESALNXP, ESALNXA, ESALNXS, ESALNXC and ESALNXU which represent full process data, WAS Application analysis, process configuration, and linux user analysis. Stricklin, Raymond J wrote: SLES10 comes with its own version of net-snmp (5.3.0). Velocity seems to provide a version of net-snmp for SLES10 (5.2.2). SuSE has made it microscopically difficult to remove their net-snmp by placing upon it a dependency from hplip. I would like to make it clear that this is a dependency I do not care about in the least. However, I do want to dot all my i's. So. In the search for a more perfect enlightenment, thus: is there any particular reason why we should not (or would not want to) use SuSE's net-snmp with Velocity? Are there customizations present in Velocity's RPM which we would need? Are there support requirements from Velocity's perspective, to use their net-snmp package? Thanks; ok r. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 begin:vcard note:If you can't measure it, I'm just not interested version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: SLES10, net-snmp, and Velocity
On May 22, 2007, at 11:38 PM, barton wrote: The version of netsnmp that is provided by Velocity Software includes many updates as well as testing. The issues in a z virtual environment is 1) overhead, 2) validity of data, and 3) complete information. Some of the mibs provided by the base snmp are expensive to utilize but still important, and the mibs provide incomplete data if you have a mainframe mentality where capture ratio is important. By replacing expensive mibs, and adding a significant amount of new metrices, capture ratio becomes very high and operational costs are reduced. SLES10 does have some new accounting features for which I've seen no validation. The reports and displays created that require the Velocity Software version are ESALNXP, ESALNXA, ESALNXS, ESALNXC and ESALNXU which represent full process data, WAS Application analysis, process configuration, and linux user analysis. Thanks, Barton. That pretty well captures the information I was after. I'll yank out SuSE's package and install yours instead. ok r. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
