Re: Is anyone multipathing on SLES 11 SP1?

2011-03-30 Thread Simms, Michael
Thank you. In process of testing.
Will update list later.

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 On 3/29/2011 at 11:53 AM, Michael Simms simmsmichael1...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 Scanning for LVM volume groups...
  Reading all physical volumes.  This may take a while...
  Found duplicate PV nKTbzlk3XKmCNSegm50mK5LqnJgfo1sv: using /dev/sdb1 not
/dev/sda1
  Found volume group VGClinDoc using metadata type lvm2
Activating LVM volume groups...
  Found duplicate PV nKTbzlk3XKmCNSegm50mK5LqnJgfo1sv: using /dev/sdb1 not
/dev/sda1
 
 
 So, I am unable to get a clean startup using SuSE SLES 11 SP1. We did work
 through and get SuSE SLES 10 SP3+ working, after months of
 work/testing/questions. In this startup instance, the system reversed the
 'available' disk to sdb1. Odd, should have been sda1.
 
 I don't know what to try next.

You need to update the filter statement in /etc/lvm/lvm.conf to only look at 
/dev/disk/by-id/ devices.
http://www.novell.com/documentation/sles11/stor_admin/?page=/documentation/sles11/stor_admin/data/bookinfo.html


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Re: Oracle 11g on zLinux

2011-03-30 Thread Damian Gallagher
Oracle 11GR2 (11.2.0.2.0) is now available via Oracle Technology Network, in 
1QCY2011 as previously announced.
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/enterprise-edition/downloads/index.html

cheers
Damian

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From: Moeur Tim C [mailto:tim.mo...@srpnet.com] 
Sent: 19 November 2010 21:26
To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
Subject: Re: Oracle 11g on zLinux

I was provided this link in some of my correspondence with IBM on this
subject:

http://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/PRS4016
See page 2.

The Oracle document mentioned in the IBM doc confirms the intent to
provide support and availability 1Q2011.

Tim

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Subject: Re: Oracle 11g on zLinux

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:01:35PM -0700, Mark Post wrote:

  I'm hunting for descriptive documents on
  Oracle's site, but none are forthcoming.   I see on this forum that
  question was asked 2 years ago, but has it changed in 2 years?

  Not really.  Current estimates are Q1 2011.  But I've heard such
 estimates before, so I take that with a large chunk of salt.  I'm
 told that this time things will be different, but I'll believe that
 when I see the announcement.

Me too; Oracle folks I've dealt with lately have seemed way more
interested in shoehorning us onto OEL than supporting Oracle on
zLinux.

We've had the releases for 11g turn into cancellations (for the 11.1)
and subsequent delays (for 11.2).

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Re: Oracle 11g on zLinux

2011-03-30 Thread Ayer, Paul W
Sorry I don't see zlinux (or s390x or linux on z) under the 11g just the 10g on 
the oracle download page... 

Am I missing it ?

Paul 


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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Damian 
Gallagher
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 10:45 AM
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Subject: Re: Oracle 11g on zLinux

Oracle 11GR2 (11.2.0.2.0) is now available via Oracle Technology Network, in 
1QCY2011 as previously announced.
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/enterprise-edition/downloads/index.html

cheers
Damian

-Original Message-
From: Moeur Tim C [mailto:tim.mo...@srpnet.com] 
Sent: 19 November 2010 21:26
To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
Subject: Re: Oracle 11g on zLinux

I was provided this link in some of my correspondence with IBM on this
subject:

http://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/PRS4016
See page 2.

The Oracle document mentioned in the IBM doc confirms the intent to
provide support and availability 1Q2011.

Tim

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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of
Rodger Donaldson
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:47 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Oracle 11g on zLinux

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:01:35PM -0700, Mark Post wrote:

  I'm hunting for descriptive documents on
  Oracle's site, but none are forthcoming.   I see on this forum that
  question was asked 2 years ago, but has it changed in 2 years?

  Not really.  Current estimates are Q1 2011.  But I've heard such
 estimates before, so I take that with a large chunk of salt.  I'm
 told that this time things will be different, but I'll believe that
 when I see the announcement.

Me too; Oracle folks I've dealt with lately have seemed way more
interested in shoehorning us onto OEL than supporting Oracle on
zLinux.

We've had the releases for 11g turn into cancellations (for the 11.1)
and subsequent delays (for 11.2).

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Re: Oracle 11g on zLinux

2011-03-30 Thread Mark Post
 On 3/30/2011 at 11:05 AM, Ayer, Paul W pwa...@statestreet.com wrote: 
 Sorry I don't see zlinux (or s390x or linux on z) under the 11g just the 10g 
 on the oracle download page... 
 
 Am I missing it ?

It's the first selection on the page, in between the (11.2.0.2.0) and 
(11.2.0.1.0) headers.


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Re: Oracle 11g on zLinux

2011-03-30 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Ayer, Paul W pwa...@statestreet.com wrote:
 Sorry I don't see zlinux (or s390x or linux on z) under the 11g just the 10g 
 on the oracle download page...

 Am I missing it ?

Guess so, or maybe the page in your cache. It's the very first entry that says:

(11.2.0.2.0)  Download zLinux64

Gets me to  
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/enterprise-edition/downloads/112020-zlinux64-352074.html

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Re: Oracle 11g on zLinux

2011-03-30 Thread Mark Post
 On 3/30/2011 at 10:44 AM, Damian Gallagher damian.gallag...@oracle.com 
 wrote:

 Oracle 11GR2 (11.2.0.2.0) is now available via Oracle Technology Network, in 
 1QCY2011 as previously announced.
 http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/enterprise-edition/downloads/inde
 x.html
 
 cheers

Damian,

Thank you very much for this alert.  I appreciate it.  Now for the nit-picking 
(sorry).

When you click on See All at the URL you gave, the page that comes up 
(http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/enterprise-edition/downloads/112020-zlinux64-352074.html)
 has under Directions bullet # 4. Review the certification matrix for this 
product here.  If you click on the link, it sends you to a page that says:
Certification Information
Oracle customers can find all certification information on the My Oracle 
Support website.
with a hyperlink to https://support.oracle.com/.  Rather irritating.


Mark Post

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Security question about having zLinux web servers out in DMZ.

2011-03-30 Thread Ron Foster at Baldor-IS

Hello listers,

Our company has recently been acquired by another company.  We are at
the point of having to get our two networks to talk to each other.
Before we can do that, we have to comply with certain security rules.
One of them being that the mainframe cannot be exposed to the internet.

We have a couple of zLinux web servers that are running in a couple of
z/VM guests that are connected to our DMZ.  The new folks say this is a
show stopper as far as hooking up the two networks.

The questions I have are:

Is this a common restriction?  That is, you have to have your DMZ based
web servers running on some other platform so that your mainframe is not
exposed to the internet.

Or, the new folks just don't understand the built-in security provided
by the z10 and z\VM 6.1.

I know that we will end up conforming to the rules that the new folks
have, but I was just wondering if the new folks really know what they
are talking about.

Thanks,
Ron

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Re: Security question about having zLinux web servers out in DMZ.

2011-03-30 Thread Mark Post
 On 3/30/2011 at 11:56 AM, Ron Foster at Baldor-IS rfos...@baldor.com 
 wrote: 
 Is this a common restriction?  That is, you have to have your DMZ based
 web servers running on some other platform so that your mainframe is not
 exposed to the internet.

I won't say it's _not_ common, but it's a leftover from the days when MVS was 
about the only thing running on the mainframe.  Not a valid restriction for 
modern applications.

 Or, the new folks just don't understand the built-in security provided
 by the z10 and z\VM 6.1.

That's entirely likely.  Perhaps IBM needs to inform them of the EAL5 rating 
that LPARs have, along with the certifications that z/VM has racked up over the 
years.

 I know that we will end up conforming to the rules that the new folks
 have, but I was just wondering if the new folks really know what they
 are talking about.

They might have 10+ years ago.  Not today.


Mark Post

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Linux on System z Secure Key Solution with the Common Cryptographic Architecture 4.1 publication available

2011-03-30 Thread Dorothea Matthaeus
Secure Key Solution with the Common Cryptographic Architecture Programmer's
Guide  4.1.0

More details are available at :
http://www.ibm.com/security/cryptocards/pciecc/library.shtml

This document describes how to use the verbs provided in the Common
Cryptographic Architecture (CCA) Release 4.0.0 and Release 4.1.0 APIs for
Linux on IBM System z.  The CCA functions perform cryptographic operations
using the IBM 4765 Crypto Express3 feature (CEX3C) in coprocessor mode.
The CCA functions also perform some cryptographic operations using the IBM
4764 Crypto Express2 (CEX2C) feature in coprocessor mode.

The book is for planning and programming purposes only.

Dorothea Matthaeus
Linux on System z Information Development
IBM Deutschland Entwicklung GmbH

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Re: Security question about having zLinux web servers out in DMZ.

2011-03-30 Thread Richard Troth
Mark is right.  It's not a valid restriction.

speculation
The rule was likely put in place by someone with only MVS mainframe
knowledge.
/speculation

Even so, there are shops which had mainframes on the public internet
15+ years ago and there are shops *today* with mainframes on the
public internet.  It's a question of managing risk, which pre-requires
understanding the risks, which in turn pre-requires understanding the
systems.

Be prepared for a long conversation with learning needed on both sides.

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On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:56, Ron Foster at Baldor-IS
rfos...@baldor.com wrote:
 Hello listers,

 Our company has recently been acquired by another company.  We are at
 the point of having to get our two networks to talk to each other.
 Before we can do that, we have to comply with certain security rules.
 One of them being that the mainframe cannot be exposed to the internet.

 We have a couple of zLinux web servers that are running in a couple of
 z/VM guests that are connected to our DMZ.  The new folks say this is a
 show stopper as far as hooking up the two networks.

 The questions I have are:

 Is this a common restriction?  That is, you have to have your DMZ based
 web servers running on some other platform so that your mainframe is not
 exposed to the internet.

 Or, the new folks just don't understand the built-in security provided
 by the z10 and z\VM 6.1.

 I know that we will end up conforming to the rules that the new folks
 have, but I was just wondering if the new folks really know what they
 are talking about.

 Thanks,
 Ron

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Re: Oracle 11g on zLinux

2011-03-30 Thread Ayer, Paul W
Am I missing it?

  Great I'll download that right after my eye doctor's appointment.

Thanks all,

Paul 


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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Post
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 11:20 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Oracle 11g on zLinux

 On 3/30/2011 at 11:05 AM, Ayer, Paul W pwa...@statestreet.com wrote: 
 Sorry I don't see zlinux (or s390x or linux on z) under the 11g just the 10g 
 on the oracle download page... 
 
 Am I missing it ?

It's the first selection on the page, in between the (11.2.0.2.0) and 
(11.2.0.1.0) headers.


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Re: Security question about having zLinux web servers out in DMZ.

2011-03-30 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 03/30/2011 at 12:03 EDT, Ron Foster at Baldor-IS
rfos...@baldor.com wrote:

 Our company has recently been acquired by another company.  We are at
 the point of having to get our two networks to talk to each other.
 Before we can do that, we have to comply with certain security rules.
 One of them being that the mainframe cannot be exposed to the internet.

Terminology.  Most non-mainframers (and not a few mainframers!) believe
mainframe = z/OS.  It's just ignorance, not stupidity.  I don't know
of anyone who would put MVS on a direct connection to the outside world,
but it's not because it's a mainframe, it's because it's in a security
zone that doesn't permit such a connection.

 We have a couple of zLinux web servers that are running in a couple of
 z/VM guests that are connected to our DMZ.  The new folks say this is a
 show stopper as far as hooking up the two networks.

 The questions I have are:

 Is this a common restriction?  That is, you have to have your DMZ based
 web servers running on some other platform so that your mainframe is not
 exposed to the internet.

I'll say that it's not UNcommon, given the history of mainframe at some
companies.  And it's usually more along the lines of but we already have
a DMZ infrastructure that we've certified and have made manageable.  We're
happy.   Hey, if The Powers That Be are happy, I'm happy.  Far be it from
ME to create an undulation, or one of a series of undulations, on the
calm, placid sea of TPTB's existence.

 Or, the new folks just don't understand the built-in security provided
 by the z10 and z\VM 6.1.

You undoubtedly went through this once before when you decided to put the
DMZ on z.  You have some education to do, or you can discuss with your IBM
rep the various ways to get the new folks educated.  If you don't nip this
in the bud, however, the FUD will spread and affect other multi-zone uses
of a single CEC.

 I know that we will end up conforming to the rules that the new folks
 have, but I was just wondering if the new folks really know what they
 are talking about.

Sure, they know what they're talking about.  They just don't know what
*you're* talking about!  Moving the DMZ outboard isn't the end of the
world, but it needs to be for considered reasons, not an uninformed panic
reaction.

Alan Altmark

z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant
IBM System Lab Services and Training
ibm.com/systems/services/labservices
office: 607.429.3323
mobile; 607.321.7556
alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
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Re: Oracle 11g on zLinux

2011-03-30 Thread Damian Gallagher
Yep, I agree. I'll see what can be done, but I'm not going to hold my breath 
for it :-) If that's the only nit, I'm quite relieved :-)

Cheers
Damian

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From: Mark Post [mailto:mp...@novell.com] 
Sent: 30 March 2011 16:31
To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
Subject: Re: Oracle 11g on zLinux

 On 3/30/2011 at 10:44 AM, Damian Gallagher damian.gallag...@oracle.com 
 wrote:

 Oracle 11GR2 (11.2.0.2.0) is now available via Oracle Technology Network, in 
 1QCY2011 as previously announced.
 http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/enterprise-edition/downloads/inde
 x.html
 
 cheers

Damian,

Thank you very much for this alert.  I appreciate it.  Now for the nit-picking 
(sorry).

When you click on See All at the URL you gave, the page that comes up 
(http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/enterprise-edition/downloads/112020-zlinux64-352074.html)
 has under Directions bullet # 4. Review the certification matrix for this 
product here.  If you click on the link, it sends you to a page that says:
Certification Information
Oracle customers can find all certification information on the My Oracle 
Support website.
with a hyperlink to https://support.oracle.com/.  Rather irritating.


Mark Post

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Re: Is anyone multipathing on SLES 11 SP1?

2011-03-30 Thread Simms, Michael
Thank you. I am in the process of testing. 
Will update list later.

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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Mauro 
Souza
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 2:15 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Is anyone multipathing on SLES 11 SP1?


Hi Michael,

Looks a lot like your LVM is not blacklisting /dev/sda devices. You have to
edit /etc/lvm/lvm.conf and instruct LVM to not bind to /dev/sd*.

More info on
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/lnxinfo/v3r0m0/index.jsp?topic=/liaai/multiBcs/liaaimpbsclvm.htm


Mauro
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On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Michael Simms
simmsmichael1...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Help! If anyone has the type of environment described below and has it
 working,
 please share with us, if you can, how you configured things. If anyone has
 any
 advice, any advice, we welcome it!

 Our environment is:

 -SAN - EMC CLARiiON CX4-960
 -Mainframe z10
 -HBA - 2 zFCP
 -Switches - 2 Brocade, between z10 and SAN
 -Operating Systems - zVM 6.1 with zLinux SLES 11 SP1
 -Contents of /etc/multipath.conf
 hma-mf-lin12:/ # cat /etc/multipath.conf
 *StartOfFile*
 devices {
 # Device attributed for EMC CLARiiON
 device {
 vendor DGC
 product *
 prio_callout /sbin/mpath_prio_alua /dev/%n
 getuid_callout /lib/udev/scsi_id -g -u -d /dev/%n
 features 1 queue_if_no_path
 path_checker directio
 failback immediate
 hardware_handler 1 alua
 }
 }
 multipaths{
 }
 *EndOfFile*
 -Partial /etc/sysconfig/kernel
 ## Path:System/Kernel
 ## Description:
 ## Type:string
 ## Command: /sbin/mkinitrd
 #
 # This variable contains the list of modules to be added to the initial
 # ramdisk by calling the script mkinitrd
 # (like drivers for scsi-controllers, for lvm or reiserfs)
 #
 INITRD_MODULES=jbd ext3 zfcp dm-multipath
 -For simplicity's sake, I am including 1 lun as an example. Below are
 selected
 entries from the startup log.
 (Underlines are mine):

 Booting default (SLES11_SP1V1)...
 ...
 io scheduler noop registered
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 ..done
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 support
 DPO or FUA
  sda: sda1
 sd 1:0:3:0: [sdb] 1048576000 512-byte logical blocks: 

Re: Security question about having zLinux web servers out in DMZ.

2011-03-30 Thread Tom Duerbusch
Not a valid restriction.

Open Systems and Network types only run a single stack in a box (vast majority 
of the time).
Here, they still can't grasp that I have some 70 stacks running on a single 
box.  (but there is only 2 ethernet cables...so you can't have 70 stacks)

From their viewpoint, treat each stack as a standalone box when dealing with 
them.  Just like standalone boxes, if you have one stack routing to another 
stack, it is the same as one box being routed to another box.

If some stacks need to be passed thru the DMZ to the outside world, just 
identify the IP addresses envolved.

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting

 Ron Foster at Baldor-IS rfos...@baldor.com 3/30/2011 10:56 AM 
Hello listers,

Our company has recently been acquired by another company.  We are at
the point of having to get our two networks to talk to each other.
Before we can do that, we have to comply with certain security rules.
One of them being that the mainframe cannot be exposed to the internet.

We have a couple of zLinux web servers that are running in a couple of
z/VM guests that are connected to our DMZ.  The new folks say this is a
show stopper as far as hooking up the two networks.

The questions I have are:

Is this a common restriction?  That is, you have to have your DMZ based
web servers running on some other platform so that your mainframe is not
exposed to the internet.

Or, the new folks just don't understand the built-in security provided
by the z10 and z\VM 6.1.

I know that we will end up conforming to the rules that the new folks
have, but I was just wondering if the new folks really know what they
are talking about.

Thanks,
Ron

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HyperPAV Alias definitions on DS8700

2011-03-30 Thread Thompson, Michael E
We are attempting to enable HyperPAV aliases on a DS8700 to a z/M 6.1
system. The Dasd Subsystem people and the people that control the HCD
that the definitions are all proper from their standpoint. However when
I issue the Q PAV command I get There are no Parallel Access Volume
devices known to this system . I have been told that there no
definitions I need to make from a zVM standpoint to detect these
aliases. If the DS8700 and the HCD are defined correctly I should be
able to see the devices when I do the Q PAV. Is this correct?  
Here are displays I did on the associated SSID.
q cu dasd fa00 dev  
DASD CU FA00 DEVICES:   
F800 F801 F802 F803 F804 F805 F806 F807 
F808 F809 F80A F80B F80C F80D F80E F80F 
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 11:30:24 
q cu dasd fa00 al   
DASD CU FA00 HAS NO ASSOCIATED ALIASES  
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 11:30:31 
q cu dasd fa00 pavm 
DASD CU FA00 CURRENTLY HYPERPAV, HYPERPAV ALLOWED   
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 11:30:57 
 
Michael E. Thompson
UnitedHealth Group

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Re: HyperPAV Alias definitions on DS8700

2011-03-30 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 03/30/2011 at 01:44 EDT, Thompson, Michael E
michael_thomp...@uhc.com wrote:
 We are attempting to enable HyperPAV aliases on a DS8700 to a z/M 6.1
 system. The Dasd Subsystem people and the people that control the HCD
 that the definitions are all proper from their standpoint. However when
 I issue the Q PAV command I get There are no Parallel Access Volume
 devices known to this system . I have been told that there no
 definitions I need to make from a zVM standpoint to detect these
 aliases. If the DS8700 and the HCD are defined correctly I should be
 able to see the devices when I do the Q PAV. Is this correct?
 Here are displays I did on the associated SSID.
 q cu dasd fa00 dev
 DASD CU FA00 DEVICES:
 F800 F801 F802 F803 F804 F805 F806 F807
 F808 F809 F80A F80B F80C F80D F80E F80F
 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 11:30:24
 q cu dasd fa00 al
 DASD CU FA00 HAS NO ASSOCIATED ALIASES
 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 11:30:31
 q cu dasd fa00 pavm
 DASD CU FA00 CURRENTLY HYPERPAV, HYPERPAV ALLOWED
 Ready; T=0.01/0.01 11:30:57


Instead of querying the control unit, you need to QUERY PAV ALL. HyperPAVs
are not associated with a base device until an I/O is performed, and that
association only lasts for the duration of that I/O.  Hence the failure of
QUERY CU DASD ALIAS to give you anything useful.  Instead, HyperPAVs are
in pools that are selected by CP for association with a base device in
the same pool.

QUERY DASD DETAILS will tell you the pool associated with a specific base
or alias address.'

It's that use of the word associated that needs to be looked at when
thinking about PAV vs HyperPAV.

Alan Altmark

z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant
IBM System Lab Services and Training
ibm.com/systems/services/labservices
office: 607.429.3323
mobile; 607.321.7556
alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
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Re: Oracle 11g on zLinux

2011-03-30 Thread Graves, Aaron
I'm told by my Oracle group that it is not available on the Oracle eDelivery 
site nor is it mentioned as supported on MOS.  Is there an ETA for this that 
would make it official?


-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Damian 
Gallagher
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 12:56 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Oracle 11g on zLinux

Yep, I agree. I'll see what can be done, but I'm not going to hold my breath 
for it :-) If that's the only nit, I'm quite relieved :-)

Cheers
Damian

-Original Message-
From: Mark Post [mailto:mp...@novell.com]
Sent: 30 March 2011 16:31
To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
Subject: Re: Oracle 11g on zLinux

 On 3/30/2011 at 10:44 AM, Damian Gallagher damian.gallag...@oracle.com 
 wrote:

 Oracle 11GR2 (11.2.0.2.0) is now available via Oracle Technology Network, in
 1QCY2011 as previously announced.
 http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/enterprise-edition/downloads/inde
 x.html

 cheers

Damian,

Thank you very much for this alert.  I appreciate it.  Now for the nit-picking 
(sorry).

When you click on See All at the URL you gave, the page that comes up 
(http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/enterprise-edition/downloads/112020-zlinux64-352074.html)
 has under Directions bullet # 4. Review the certification matrix for this 
product here.  If you click on the link, it sends you to a page that says:
Certification Information
Oracle customers can find all certification information on the My Oracle 
Support website.
with a hyperlink to https://support.oracle.com/.  Rather irritating.


Mark Post

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Re: HyperPAV Alias definitions on DS8700

2011-03-30 Thread Thompson, Michael E
Alan here is the output from Q PAV ALL 

q pav all
There are no Parallel Access Volume devices known to this system 
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 13:10:02 has no mention of 

The Q DASD DETAILS does not contain the HYPERPAV DETAILS 

q dasd details f802 
F802  CUTYPE = 2107-E8, DEVTYPE = 3390-0C, VOLSER = VMUW02, CYLS = 65520
  CACHE DETAILS:  CACHE NVS CFW DFW PINNED CONCOPY  
   -SUBSYSTEM   YY   Y   -N   N 
  -DEVICE   Y-   -   YN   N 
  DEVICE DETAILS: CCA = 02, DDC = --
  DUPLEX DETAILS: --
  PPRC DETAILS: PRIMARY VOLUME  
  CU DETAILS: SSID = FA00, CUNUM = F80A 
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 13:19:24

Looks like the device is not even detecting HyperPAV status.


-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of
Alan Altmark
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 1:00 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: HyperPAV Alias definitions on DS8700

On Wednesday, 03/30/2011 at 01:44 EDT, Thompson, Michael E
michael_thomp...@uhc.com wrote:
 We are attempting to enable HyperPAV aliases on a DS8700 to a z/M 6.1 
 system. The Dasd Subsystem people and the people that control the HCD 
 that the definitions are all proper from their standpoint. However 
 when I issue the Q PAV command I get There are no Parallel Access 
 Volume devices known to this system . I have been told that there no 
 definitions I need to make from a zVM standpoint to detect these 
 aliases. If the DS8700 and the HCD are defined correctly I should be 
 able to see the devices when I do the Q PAV. Is this correct?
 Here are displays I did on the associated SSID.
 q cu dasd fa00 dev
 DASD CU FA00 DEVICES:
 F800 F801 F802 F803 F804 F805 F806 F807
 F808 F809 F80A F80B F80C F80D F80E F80F Ready; T=0.01/0.01 11:30:24 q 
 cu dasd fa00 al DASD CU FA00 HAS NO ASSOCIATED ALIASES Ready; 
 T=0.01/0.01 11:30:31 q cu dasd fa00 pavm DASD CU FA00 CURRENTLY 
 HYPERPAV, HYPERPAV ALLOWED Ready; T=0.01/0.01 11:30:57


Instead of querying the control unit, you need to QUERY PAV ALL.
HyperPAVs are not associated with a base device until an I/O is
performed, and that association only lasts for the duration of vthat
I/O.  Hence the failure of QUERY CU DASD ALIAS to give you anything
useful.  Instead, HyperPAVs are in pools that are selected by CP for
association with a base device in the same pool.

QUERY DASD DETAILS will tell you the pool associated with a specific
base or alias address.'

It's that use of the word associated that needs to be looked at when
thinking about PAV vs HyperPAV.

Alan Altmark

z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant
IBM System Lab Services and Training
ibm.com/systems/services/labservices
office: 607.429.3323
mobile; 607.321.7556
alan_altm...@us.ibm.com
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Re: Oracle 11g on zLinux

2011-03-30 Thread Damian Gallagher
It's official. Certification on MOS is in catchup. Supported OS distros are 
detailed in the doc.

Point them at Getting Started - 11gR2 Grid Infrastructure,SI(Single Instance), 
ASM and DB (IBM: Linux on System z) (Doc ID 1306465.1)

If they open an SR I'll just tell them the same - if that makes it 'official' 
for them tell them to do so, and stick my name in a prominent position in the 
SR so it'll route to me.

Cheers
Damian

-Original Message-
From: Graves, Aaron [mailto:aaron.gra...@citi.com] 
Sent: 30 March 2011 19:04
To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
Subject: Re: Oracle 11g on zLinux

I'm told by my Oracle group that it is not available on the Oracle eDelivery 
site nor is it mentioned as supported on MOS.  Is there an ETA for this that 
would make it official?


-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Damian 
Gallagher
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 12:56 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Oracle 11g on zLinux

Yep, I agree. I'll see what can be done, but I'm not going to hold my breath 
for it :-) If that's the only nit, I'm quite relieved :-)

Cheers
Damian

-Original Message-
From: Mark Post [mailto:mp...@novell.com]
Sent: 30 March 2011 16:31
To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu
Subject: Re: Oracle 11g on zLinux

 On 3/30/2011 at 10:44 AM, Damian Gallagher damian.gallag...@oracle.com 
 wrote:

 Oracle 11GR2 (11.2.0.2.0) is now available via Oracle Technology Network, in
 1QCY2011 as previously announced.
 http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/enterprise-edition/downloads/inde
 x.html

 cheers

Damian,

Thank you very much for this alert.  I appreciate it.  Now for the nit-picking 
(sorry).

When you click on See All at the URL you gave, the page that comes up 
(http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/enterprise-edition/downloads/112020-zlinux64-352074.html)
 has under Directions bullet # 4. Review the certification matrix for this 
product here.  If you click on the link, it sends you to a page that says:
Certification Information
Oracle customers can find all certification information on the My Oracle 
Support website.
with a hyperlink to https://support.oracle.com/.  Rather irritating.


Mark Post

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Re: HyperPAV Alias definitions on DS8700

2011-03-30 Thread Mark Wheeler
 Instead of querying the control unit, you need to QUERY PAV ALL. 
snip 
 Alan Altmark

 q pav all
There are no Parallel Access Volume devices known to this system  
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 13:31:53   
 
Mark Wheeler
UnitedHealth Group
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zVienna IBM System z Technical University (2-6 May 2011)- Vienna

2011-03-30 Thread Pamela Christina where the snow has not melted
Cross-posed to IBMVM, IBMMAIN, LINUX390 for those who are interested
enhancing their System z skills at IBM technical conferences
focused on System z.

Hi Everyone,
The next big z conference in Europe is open for enrollment.

IBM System z Technical University
2-6 May 2011
Vienna, Austria

Web site:
http://www.ibm.com/training/conf/europe/systemz

This is 4.5-day event runs from Monday morning
through Friday 1:00 PM.

If you need z technical education and want to get caught up
on the latest on z, consider this conference which
focuses on System z, zEnterprise, z/OS, z/VSE, z/VM, and
Linux on System z and more.
There will also be hands on labs throughout the week,
a product expo with IBM and ISV exhibitors and a
University Day on Tuesday (with visiting students).

The details about enrollment, accommodations at Vienna Hilton,
agenda grid and session lists and abstracts can be
found on the web site.
http://www.ibm.com/training/conf/europe/systemz


Regards
Pam C

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German Federal Pension Fund Migrates IBM CICS Workloads to Linux on System z

2011-03-30 Thread Dave Jones
There is a free webinar on April 7, discussing the move of CICS, COBOL
and Batch from z/OS to z/Linux, for those who are interested

DJ

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Re: HyperPAV Alias definitions on DS8700

2011-03-30 Thread Eric R Farman
Alan said:

 Instead of querying the control unit, you need to QUERY PAV ALL.
HyperPAVs
 are not associated with a base device until an I/O is performed, and
that
 association only lasts for the duration of that I/O.  Hence the failure
of
 QUERY CU DASD ALIAS to give you anything useful.  Instead, HyperPAVs are
 in pools that are selected by CP for association with a base device in
 the same pool.

While it is true that the association between base-and-alias only occurs
for the duration of an I/O, the Q CU ALIAS command will show the HyperPAV
aliases just fine:

q dasd details 1580
1580  CUTYPE = 2107-E8, DEVTYPE = 3390-0E, VOLSER = JS1580, CYLS = 71232
  CACHE DETAILS:  CACHE NVS CFW DFW PINNED CONCOPY
   -SUBSYSTEM   YY   Y   -N   N
  -DEVICE   Y-   -   YN   N
  DEVICE DETAILS: CCA = 00, DDC = --
  DUPLEX DETAILS: --
  HYPERPAV DETAILS: BASE VOLUME IN POOL 26
  CU DETAILS: SSID = 0227, CUNUM = 1580
q cu 0227 dev
DASD CU 0227 DEVICES:
1580 1581 1582 1583 1584 1585 1586 1587
1588 1589 158A 158B 158C 158D 158E
q cu 0227 al
DASD CU 0227 ALIASES:
1586 1587 1588 1589 158A 158B 158C 158D
158E
q dasd details 1586
1586  CUTYPE = 2107-E8, DEVTYPE = 3390-0A, VOLSER =, CYLS = 0
  CACHE DETAILS:  CACHE NVS CFW DFW PINNED CONCOPY
   -SUBSYSTEM   YY   Y   -N   N
  -DEVICE   N-   -   NN   N
  DEVICE DETAILS: CCA = 00, DDC = --
  DUPLEX DETAILS: --
  HYPERPAV DETAILS: ALIAS VOLUME IN POOL 26
  CU DETAILS: SSID = 0227, CUNUM = 1580

Mark mentioned...

 The Q DASD DETAILS does not contain the HYPERPAV DETAILS
 ...snip...
 Looks like the device is not even detecting HyperPAV status.

This appears to be the case to me as well.  A base device is only marked
as a base when we find at least one alias that is associated with either
the base subchannel (PAV) or the base subchannel's pool (HyperPAV).  Until
then, the responses you see for Q PAV, Q CU, Q DASD DETAILS, etc., can
look like you have described here.  If you have the device string defined
to HCD, what happens if you query one of the supposed alias subchannels?
Perhaps they still need to be varied online?

Regards,
Eric

Eric Farman
z/VM I/O Development
IBM Endicott, NY

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Re: Security question about having zLinux web servers out in DMZ.

2011-03-30 Thread David Boyes
On 3/30/11 8:56 AM, Ron Foster at Baldor-IS rfos...@baldor.com wrote:
We have a couple of zLinux web servers that are running in a couple of
z/VM guests that are connected to our DMZ.  The new folks say this is a
show stopper as far as hooking up the two networks.

This is a political decision, not a technical one, and one based on a
flawed assumption that System z = one image of z/OS.

They're used to the concept that machines run one OS and are not safely
partitionable. If they expose a typical machine to the Internet, then
they're exposing the whole thing. In the scenario you just described,
there is no risk (or no more risk than they are already taking by exposing
ANY Linux machine to the internet) and each system is separated and
isolate IF they do the networking right.

Is this a common restriction?  That is, you have to have your DMZ based
web servers running on some other platform so that your mainframe is not
exposed to the internet.

Yes, if you're used to the one-system, one-OS, one-image rule. It does NOT
apply to virtualized Linux and virtual machines. This is policy, not
technical merit. They run the same (if not an inflated) risk by exposing
Intel machines to the Internet. If the networking is properly engineered
and ANY system that is exposed to the Internet is correctly separated with
DMZs and firewalls, then exposing the mainframe is no more risk than
exposing any other platform. It's the network segment that has to be
separate, not the machine.

I know that we will end up conforming to the rules that the new folks
have, but I was just wondering if the new folks really know what they
are talking about.

They're going to hit exactly the same issues with ANY virtualized
platform. Probably worth exploring how much they trust their switch VLANs;
same issue. 

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Re: Security question about having zLinux web servers out in DMZ.

2011-03-30 Thread Ron Foster at Baldor-IS

Everyone,

Thanks for the good responses.  Right now My Boss and his Boss are
talking to the security guys.  I have told them some of what you all
have told me.  It could be useful.

Richard, Thanks for the offer to help.  We shall see how things progress
from here.

Thanks,
Ron

On 3/30/2011 12:32 PM, Tom Duerbusch wrote:

Not a valid restriction.

Open Systems and Network types only run a single stack in a box (vast majority 
of the time).
Here, they still can't grasp that I have some 70 stacks running on a single 
box.  (but there is only 2 ethernet cables...so you can't have 70 stacks)

 From their viewpoint, treat each stack as a standalone box when dealing with 
them.  Just like standalone boxes, if you have one stack routing to another stack, 
it is the same as one box being routed to another box.

If some stacks need to be passed thru the DMZ to the outside world, just 
identify the IP addresses envolved.

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting


Ron Foster at Baldor-ISrfos...@baldor.com  3/30/2011 10:56 AM

Hello listers,

Our company has recently been acquired by another company.  We are at
the point of having to get our two networks to talk to each other.
Before we can do that, we have to comply with certain security rules.
One of them being that the mainframe cannot be exposed to the internet.

We have a couple of zLinux web servers that are running in a couple of
z/VM guests that are connected to our DMZ.  The new folks say this is a
show stopper as far as hooking up the two networks.

The questions I have are:

Is this a common restriction?  That is, you have to have your DMZ based
web servers running on some other platform so that your mainframe is not
exposed to the internet.

Or, the new folks just don't understand the built-in security provided
by the z10 and z\VM 6.1.

I know that we will end up conforming to the rules that the new folks
have, but I was just wondering if the new folks really know what they
are talking about.

Thanks,
Ron

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