Re: This newbie is getting there with SLES8 but...
The final step in the formatting process is creating a filesystem: mke2fs -b 4096 /dev/dasda1 (substitute mke2fs for your filesystem of choice)... On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 06:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thanks for feedback and suggestions however I'm still no further forward. Here's the > latest on your comments and suggestions. > > Rich: > > I was only running a 256M machine and the docs recommend 512 for a vnc installation. > I raised the memory to 512, tried again but still got the same error. > > Marcy: > > I can't see any I/O errors on the console. > > Janek: > > I used DASDFMT to format the disks using cdl disk layout. I then used FDASD to > partition the disk. Do I need to do anything else to put a filesystem on it? > > Doug: > > I've tried using NFS but the mount times out after a long wait with the following > message: > > mount: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Timed out > > When I've encountered this before it was because of some firewall type issue on the > client side; the request was getting through to the server but the response wasn't > getting back to the client. Did you have any such problems with an NFS install? Is > there something I'm missing? > > > Thanks again for the feedback so far, I really appreciate it. > > Nigel > > > > -Original Message- > From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 10 May 2004 17:44 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: This newbie is getting there with SLES8 but... > > Perhaps I should have added that different installation methods have > different storage requirements. You may want to verify with the readme > that 256MB is enough for a VNC install. I use 256MB for a ssh install. > You can certainly step down the virtual machine size after install. > > On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 10:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > It has 256M > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 10 May 2004 16:54 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: This newbie is getting there with SLES8 but... > > > > What size virtual machine are you running in? > > > > On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 09:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Hi again! > > > > > > I sorted out the last problem around PROFILE TCPIP and it turns out it was an > > > intentional routing restriction which I have now resolved, so thanks to Carlos > > > for that line of enquiry. Anyway I've now got another problem. > > > > > > I've successfully selected the vnc installation method and have loaded the first > > > bits using SMB from my PC's CD drive. The DASD have been formatted and > > > partitioned and I then get to the YaST2 Installation Settings screen. But under > > > the section 'Software' it gives the error: 'Not enough disk > space > > > even for a minimal installation!'. I have a root partition of 2.2 GB so space > > > should not be a problem. When I click on the Software link and go to the 'YaST2 > > > Software Selection' screen then click on 'Detailed Selection' I find that it is > > > empty. I've found a couple of indications on the web that > > > suggest that this may be a CD error but can't find anything on the Suse web > > > site. Can anyone confirm if this is indeed the problem? And if not are there any > > > other suggestions? > > > > > > As always, many thanks in advance! > > > > > > Nigel > > > > > > [& > > > > > > The Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea > > > > > > This e-mail may contain information which is confidential, legally privileged > > > and/or copyright protected. This e-mail is intended for the addressee only. If > > > you receive this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material > > > from your computer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > -- > > Rich Smrcina > > Illustro Systems International > > rsmrcina at illustro.com > > > > Catch the WAVV! > > Update your zSeries skills in 4 days. > > WA
Re: Anyone what to sell me SuSE Linux for s/390?
The one thing to remember when using other distributions is that IBM & ISV software are typically supported on SUSE and/or Redhat only. Having a choice is part of what free software is all about, but in some cases your choices are more limited. The open source packages undoubtedly run wonderfully on Gentoo, Debian and Slackware, but you really need to be more careful with vendor software. If that is important to you and your company, then the fee for a supported distribution becomes less of an issue. On Wed, 2004-05-19 at 16:47, Ranga Nathan wrote: > I am also concerned that the 'protection money' does not really buy much > more than what I get from the many forums. I understand that $10K for > install support is email-only support. > > If Novell tries to kill the golden goose then they wont be able to count > the eggs. > > There are many here and outside who are quite capable of creating and > supporting distros. Personally I would seriously look at Debian or > something like that... > > But I live in the corporate world ... he he :-) > > > > > "Post, Mark K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent by: Linux on 390 Port <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 05/19/2004 02:13 PM > Please respond to Linux on 390 Port > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > cc: > Subject:Re: Anyone what to sell me SuSE Linux for s/390? > > > That money doesn't get you service, just maintenance for one year. I > believe that includes the right to upgrade to a new release within that > same > time period. If you want support, that is extra. > > > Mark Post > > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > David > Heilman > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 4:55 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Anyone what to sell me SuSE Linux for s/390? > > > With the answers I have ben getting about the SuSE side of things today I > wonder what you get for $15K. If their service is as good as their sales I > don't think I want it. I think I'm getting to old for this business..;-( > What ever happened to service? > > Getting old with a lot less patience > Dave > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > ---------- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina Illustro Systems International rsmrcina at illustro.com Catch the WAVV! Update your zSeries skills in 4 days. WAVV 2005 in Colorado Springs, CO May 20-24, 2005 For details see http://www.wavv.org -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Linuxvm.org Main Page
Mark, It is certainly a herculean effort on your part to attempt to keep that up and frankly I've often wondered how you found the time to do so. I want to say that your efforts are greatly appreciated, it is a great reference. For my opinion, I don't think it is necessary to summarize the list traffic, but what to put in it's place eludes me. On Fri, 2004-05-28 at 14:54, Post, Mark K wrote: > As many/most of you have noticed, I've not been able to keep the main page > of the web site updated for quite a while. Other parts have been a little > better, but could be better as well. My apologies for that, and I will try > to do something about it. I do have a reason (although not an excuse) which > I'll be announcing here fairly soon. > > Before I herniate myself trying to catch up with all the old traffic, I > wanted to ask the list if they think the running commentary/summarization of > the list traffic was/is a worthwhile thing. If so, fine, I'll try to catch > it up. If not, then the question becomes, what _should_ be on the "front > page" of the newspaper, so to speak? Is there something that would be of > more value to have there? I'm willing to listen to suggestions. > > I'm divided as to whether to request that answers be sent off-list. I don't > necessarily want people to have to read all the responses that don't care > much. > But, I also like the idea that answers generate new ideas, etc. So, for > now, I'll say send responses to the list. If things get too ugly, I'll > request that any further traffic be taken off-list. > > Thanks, > > Mark Post > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina Illustro Systems International rsmrcina at illustro.com Catch the WAVV! Update your zSeries skills in 4 days. WAVV 2005 in Colorado Springs, CO May 20-24, 2005 For details see http://www.wavv.org -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Easy Reverse DNS Lookup?
I have a customer that runs BIND on Linux for S/390 as a slave DNS server to the main windows DNS server(s). The zones are replicated to the slave every so often. This way, a DNS request is satisfied over the Guest LAN instead of hitting the 'real' network. On Fri, 2004-06-04 at 10:14, Phil Knirsch wrote: > Peter E. Abresch Jr. - at Pepco wrote: > > Is there any method of allowing Linux to perform reverse DNS lookups using > > the /etc/hosts file or some other file? I currently have the interface > > addresses in /etc/hosts but now have a requirement to perform a reverse > > name lookup. I use an external DNS as well but that is under another > > department?s control. I need more specific control in case an interface > > goes down. Thanks. > > > > Do you mean a real reverse DNS lookup? If yes, then it's really tricky > as you need to "simulate" a root server that can do that as reverse DNS > lookups always use the in-addr.arpa domain: > > Looking up e.g. > > 192.168.200.3 > > results in a real DNS query to > > 3.200.168.192.in-addr.arpa > > So your DNS server needs to provide that information directly. There > might be ways around this problem, but i am not aware of any easy > solutions, sorry. > > Read ya, Phil > > -- > Philipp Knirsch | Tel.: +49-711-96437-470 > Development | Fax.: +49-711-96437-111 > Red Hat GmbH | Email: Phil Knirsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hauptstaetterstr. 58 | Web: http://www.redhat.de/ > D-70178 Stuttgart > Motd: You're only jealous cos the little penguins are talking to me. > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina Illustro Systems International rsmrcina at illustro.com Catch the WAVV! Update your zSeries skills in 4 days. WAVV 2005 in Colorado Springs, CO May 20-24, 2005 For details see http://www.wavv.org -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Basic SP3 install question
There are three RPMs that need to be installed before you start the big update process. It is mentioned in the readme... On Tue, 2004-06-08 at 09:31, John Kapturowski wrote: > Hi, I am trying to install SP3 to a VM4.4 SLES8 image. In the past I have > installed SP2 using an ISO CD image with the mount loopback which worked > great. I have the RPM's ftp'ed under a work directory and also on the SP3 > CD (not an ISO Imagefile). Using the Yast2 Patch CD update, I go to auto > update/expert/type in the directory/next and get init failed, check that > you have inserted the correct CD. I can install them individually under > putty, but that would be very time consuming. Is there a control file in > Yast where I can change the source from CD to the rpm directory? Other > ideas? Comments? TIA to all. > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina Illustro Systems International rsmrcina at illustro.com Catch the WAVV! Update your zSeries skills in 4 days. WAVV 2005 in Colorado Springs, CO May 20-24, 2005 For details see http://www.wavv.org -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Linux/390 on Hercules/390 on Linux/Intel?
Tao Linux is available too. Happy fiddling. On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 16:07, McKown, John wrote: > OK, it sounds complicated. But I have done this in the past. I > downloaded a SuSE beta. I was wondering if there is ANY WAY to get a > CURRENT version of SuSE for the S/390 without spending very much money. > I'm certainly willing to pay a reasonable copying fee, but that > horrendous amount ($500?) for a "6 months license" is just way to > unreasonable (to me). > > Or, if I want to "fiddle" with this, should I just use another distro > such as Debian or Gentoo? > > > -- > John McKown > Senior Systems Programmer > UICI Insurance Center > Applications & Solutions Team > > This message (including any attachments) contains confidential > information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its' > content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you > should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, > copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action > based on it, is strictly prohibited. > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina Illustro Systems International rsmrcina at illustro.com Catch the WAVV! Update your zSeries skills in 4 days. WAVV 2005 in Colorado Springs, CO May 20-24, 2005 For details see http://www.wavv.org -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: z/VM Linux Network recommendations
I concur, the Vswitch is the way to go. You get the best of both worlds, all of the guests connect to an internal LAN service and they all look like they are on the same network as z/VM. On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 16:15, Lionel Dyck wrote: > we are once again embarking on a linux on zseries pilot and our mainframe > network folks are arguing about things (z/vm routing or use direct to > linux for the route) while our network engineers are saying no static > routing period. > > what i'd like is your recommendations on what the best setup would be for > the following: > > 1 z900 IFL > 1 OSA Express GB > 1 z/VM 5.1 > 4 to 20 SuSE linux servers > > I'm assuming a vlan is the way to go but networking is not my forte. > > Thanks for any suggestions. > > > Lionel B. Dyck, Systems Software Lead <>< > Kaiser Permanente Information Technology > 25 N. Via Monte Ave > Walnut Creek, Ca 94598 > > Phone: (925) 926-5332 (tie line 8/473-5332) > E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sametime: (use Lotus Notes address) > AIM:lbdyck > > Notice: This message (including any attachments) contains confidential > information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is > protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should > delete this message. Any unauthorized disclosure, copying or distribution > of this message, or taking of any action based upon it is strictly > prohibited. > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina Illustro Systems International rsmrcina at illustro.com Catch the WAVV! Update your zSeries skills in 4 days. WAVV 2005 in Colorado Springs, CO May 20-24, 2005 For details see http://www.wavv.org -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: TSM for Linux on zSeries
Unfortunately TSM for Linux on zSeries only supports SCSI attached tape. On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 15:24, Wolfe, Gordon W wrote: > Has anyone worked with or know anything about Tivoli TSM 5.2 for zSeries Linux? > > Is it better than the VM version of TSM? > > Does it work with ESCON-attached tape drives? > > Will it interface with VM:Tape and STK tape silos? > > I've been trying to get information off IBM's website on this but my browser is > being flakey about it and giving me socket errors on about every third page. > > "An Optomist is just a pessimist with no job experience." - Scott Adams > Gordon W. Wolfe, Ph.D. Boeing Enterprise Servers 425-865-5940 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina Illustro Systems International rsmrcina at illustro.com Catch the WAVV! Update your zSeries skills in 4 days. WAVV 2005 in Colorado Springs, CO May 20-24, 2005 For details see http://www.wavv.org -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Performance Monitoring for Linux
Take a look at larrd or mrtg. They perform the graphing function, you (or Nagios) have to provide the numbers. On Wed, 2004-06-16 at 19:27, Ranga Nathan wrote: > I installed Nagios for host and service monitoring. It is working fine. > Good. > Now I need something for performance monitoring - stats, charting and the > works. > > My teenager directed me to Cacti > (http://www.raxnet.net/products/cacti/download_cacti.php). > > I downloaded it but have not installed it yet.. > > Meanwhile there is pressure to install some 'proprietary' and 'closed' > product. I am reluctant to install 'closed' software when there is a > better alternative. > > I would like to hear from the public on what worked best for you. > > Thanks for sharing the info. > > > __ > Ranga Nathan / CSG > Systems Programmer - Specialist; Technical Services; > BAX Global Inc. Irvine-California > Tel: 714-442-7591 Fax: 714-442-2840 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina Illustro Systems International rsmrcina at illustro.com Catch the WAVV! Update your zSeries skills in 4 days. WAVV 2005 in Colorado Springs, CO May 20-24, 2005 For details see http://www.wavv.org -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Performance Monitoring for Linux
Sizing is actually pretty easy. What Barton is getting at is that when Linux reports performance numbers, it does so on the assumption that it owns the hardware. When running under VM (or LPAR), it doesn't so you need something that understands VM's influence and can adjust the numbers that Linux reports. ESALPS can do this. As to adjusting performance knobs, it's no different than any other operating system. Small, incremental adjustments until the natives stop complaining. If they always complain, that's another issue. :) On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 12:58, Ranga Nathan wrote: > Interesting. So it seems that if you want to track CPU and memory > performance you have to do it at the aggregate VM level. That makes it > difficult to size the guests. How does one know how much resource to give > to a guest. I do understand that if the guest is under-performing then you > give it some more. But by how much? > Very intersting questions...! > __ > Ranga Nathan / CSG > Systems Programmer - Specialist; Technical Services; > BAX Global Inc. Irvine-California > Tel: 714-442-7591 Fax: 714-442-2840 > > > > > > Adam Thornton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent by: Linux on 390 Port <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 06/17/2004 09:14 AM > Please respond to Linux on 390 Port > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > cc: > Subject:Re: Performance Monitoring for Linux > > > On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 10:29, Barton Robinson wrote: > > I am unaware of any product other than ESALPS on the market > > that is either aware of this problem or addresses > > it. Linux monitors do NOT have the ability to correct this > > problem - they are unaware they are virtualized. > > They still have some utility: their absolute numbers--packets per > second, for instance--are accurate. And measurements of Linux processes > vis-a-vis each other (i.e. "Samba appears to be eating about three times > as much storage and four times as much CPU as named") are reasonably > accurate, although that fluctuates a lot in any Linux system, > virtualized or not. > > However, yes, as Barton says, anything that measures performance > relative to the Linux image capacity is basically useless, since > effectively the speed of the machine is varying wildly as VM does its > thing (remember that what Linux considers core storage may actually be > out in VM's page space somewhere, so not just CPU performance but memory > access times are enormously variable). So it tells you nothing that > some process is consuming X% of the Linux image's CPU unless you're > either running the image at a fixed priority--which I hope you're > not--or you have some way to correlate that with what VM says the image > itself is doing. > > Adam > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > ------ > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina Illustro Systems International rsmrcina at illustro.com Catch the WAVV! Update your zSeries skills in 4 days. WAVV 2005 in Colorado Springs, CO May 20-24, 2005 For details see http://www.wavv.org -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: J2EE performance?
Barton, Which new java compilers are you referring to? On Tue, 2004-06-22 at 08:20, Barton Robinson wrote: > I've heard the new java compilers are much much better, > suited more for meeting mainframe objectives. > -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Mount VSE volume in Linux?
Yes, if you have the TCP/IP for VSE NFS feature. But you don't mount volumes, you mount filesystems (as defined in VSE), which are VSAM catalogs, VSE Libraries and whatever else can be defined with the DEFINE FILE TCP/IP startup command. On Wed, 2004-06-23 at 10:04, Anttnio Pires de Castro Jznior. wrote: > Hi, > > Is it possible to mount a VSE volume in Linux?? and read/write VSE > files?? Linux and VSE are installed in IBM Shark. > > thanks in advanced, > Antonio. > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Mount VSE volume in Linux?
VSE does not currently provide SMB or CIFS services. On Wed, 2004-06-23 at 17:15, Ranga Nathan wrote: > Also SAMBA might work. > __ > Ranga Nathan / CSG > Systems Programmer - Specialist; Technical Services; > BAX Global Inc. Irvine-California > Tel: 714-442-7591 Fax: 714-442-2840 > > > > > > David Boyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent by: Linux on 390 Port <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 06/23/2004 10:16 AM > Please respond to Linux on 390 Port > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > cc: > Subject:Re: Mount VSE volume in Linux? > > > Only if you have the VSE NFS feature and a highspeed network connection > between Linux and VSE. You cannot directly read a VSE volume from a > Linux system. > > > > Is it possible to mount a VSE volume in Linux?? and read/write VSE > > files?? Linux and VSE are installed in IBM Shark. > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Cics an Linux
Rumor has it that it is being worked on. The last I heard (in January) is that it may be available by the end of the year. Again, this is nothing official... :) On Thu, 2004-06-24 at 09:54, Ceruti, Gerard G wrote: > Hi People > > Today I was asked if CICS is available on zSeries Linux ?, from what I can > find out - NO and I am sure it will not happen very quickly, does anyone > perhaps know other ?. > > Thanks > Gerard Ceruti > > > __ > > For information about the Standard Bank group visit our web site > > __ > > Disclaimer and confidentiality note > Everything in this e-mail and any attachments relating to the official business of > Standard Bank Group Limited is proprietary to the group. > It is confidential, legally privileged and protected by law. > Standard Bank does not own and endorse any other content. Views and opinions are > those of the sender unless clearly stated as being that of the group. > The person addressed in the e-mail is the sole authorised recipient. Please notify > the sender immediately if it has unintentionally reached you and do not read, > disclose or use the content in any way. > Standard Bank can not assure that the integrity of this communication has been > maintained nor that it is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. > ___ > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
SLES7 64-bit and Vswitch
I am trying to get a SLES7 64 bit system to work with a vswitch on z/VM 4.4. The interface comes up and I can see (ping) machines on the vswitch, but not any other machines. The SLES8 machines are working properly. The routing (route -n) is the same on both SLES7 and 8. I've noticed that when I look at the interface on SLES8, it says UP RUNNING MULTICAST. On SLES7, NOARP is also displayed. I'm thinking that might be a clue, but I want to make sure. Are there updated qdio drivers required for SLES7 to work on the vswitch? Rich Smrcina Illustro Systems International -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: DASD estimates for a starter zLinux system
I typically start with a template machine of 1112 cylinders. That way three of them can fit on a 3390-3 volume. If a particular image requires more disk space, I will add it to each image as needed. On Wed, 2004-07-07 at 12:41, moshief, daniel wrote: > > New to zLinux, I am trying to estimate how much disk space would be needed > > for a development zLinux system (running under VM). We are doing java and > > gcc development. Are there any recommended websites to assess this? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dan > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Cost
Last I checked (which has been a while), the euro was running pretty close to the dollar, so the price is probably right. If you really want to provide official support for SUSE, you may need to just do it. There are a few free alternatives available now that look quite good. But it's a pretty safe bet that the vast majority of production shops are currently running SUSE. On Thu, 2004-07-08 at 06:59, "EXT-JPB, Jorge Puente BeltrC!n." wrote: > Hi everyone, > > My company is willing to deploy a project under Linux S/390. WeB4ve got a Multiprise > 3000 and are looking ahead for a SuSe Enterprise Server 8.0, but providers (Novell) > have sent an offer around 5.400 b ,. > > It seems to be a "little expensive", B?is these the real cost of the Enterprise > Server? > > Thanks in advance and apologize my poor english. > > Jorge Puente > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: APL and the like (and some WAY off topic typewriter questions ....)
It looks like there are some on eBay. On Thu, 2004-07-08 at 12:55, David Boyes wrote: > > (and I didn't have the right typeball so > > it wasn't a > > lot of fun). > > Ah, the magic ball...! I have a brand-new APL ball in the display case > in the lab...8-) > > Speaking of typeballs, does anyone know if there's somewhere in the > world where I could acquire a genuine Selectric II or III? None of the > DC-area thrift or business machine suppliers have any left. 8-( > > Why? I find myself wanting a REAL typewriter now and again, and all the > modern ones have keyboards and mechanisms that pretty much stink (I'm a > good 25-30 wpm faster on a Selectric than anything made since). A 2741 > would also work (I have repair manuals for those). Color not important > (although one of the classic brick red or IBM blue ones would be > *really* cool). There's something about that "ker-THUNK! hu" of the > Selectic power on that's fun...8-) > > -- db > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: LVM problem
Does dasdbp1 exist? Send the output from 'cat /dev/dasd/devices'. On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 08:14, Nilson Vieira wrote: > Hi All, > > I have LVM 0.9.1 installed on a suse 7.2 production Lpar > > When i run vgscan it goes like that > > itapoa:/ora-backup # vgscan > vgscan -- reading all physical volumes (this may take a while...) > vgscan -- found active volume group "discovg08" > vgscan -- found active volume group "discovg" > vgscan -- found active volume group "discovg02" > vgscan -- found active volume group "discovg03" > vgscan -- found active volume group "discovg06" > vgscan -- found active volume group "discovg05" > vgscan -- found active volume group "discovg07" > vgscan -- "/etc/lvmtab" and "/etc/lvmtab.d" successfully created > vgscan -- WARNING: This program does not do a VGDA backup of your volume groups > > > But when i try pvcreate ... > > itapoa:/ # pvcreate /dev/dasdbp1 > pvcreate -- ERROR: VGDA in kernel and lvmtab are NOT consistent; please run vgscan > > > I tried vgscan and didnĀ“t change anything. > > Please Help; > > > > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: LVM problem
e at blocksize: 4096, 601020 blocks, > 2347 MB > 0ea0(ECKD) at ( 94:208) is dasdba:active at blocksize: 4096, 601020 blocks, > 2347 MB > 0ea1(ECKD) at ( 94:212) is dasdbb:active at blocksize: 4096, 601020 blocks, > 2347 MB > 0ea2(ECKD) at ( 94:216) is dasdbc:active at blocksize: 4096, 601020 blocks, > 2347 MB > 0eaa(ECKD) at ( 94:220) is dasdbd:active at blocksize: 4096, 601020 blocks, > 2347 MB > 0e6f(ECKD) at ( 94:224) is dasdbe:active at blocksize: 4096, 601020 blocks, > 2347 MB > 0e7f(ECKD) at ( 94:228) is dasdbf:active at blocksize: 4096, 601020 blocks, > 2347 MB > 0e72(ECKD) at ( 94:232) is dasdbg:active at blocksize: 4096, 601020 blocks, > 2347 MB > 0ead(ECKD) at ( 94:236) is dasdbh:active at blocksize: 4096, 601020 blocks, > 2347 MB > 0e96(ECKD) at ( 94:240) is dasdbi:active at blocksize: 4096, 601020 blocks, > 2347 MB > 0e75(ECKD) at ( 94:244) is dasdbj:active at blocksize: 4096, 601020 blocks, > 2347 MB > 0eac(ECKD) at ( 94:248) is dasdbk:active at blocksize: 4096, 601020 blocks, > 2347 MB > 0e86(ECKD) at ( 94:252) is dasdbl:active at blocksize: 4096, 601020 blocks, > 2347 MB > 0e7a(ECKD) at (254: 0) is dasdbm:active at blocksize: 4096, 601020 blocks, > 2347 MB > 0e92(ECKD) at (254: 4) is dasdbn:active at blocksize: 4096, 601020 blocks, > 2347 MB > 0e91(ECKD) at (254: 8) is dasdbo:active at blocksize: 4096, 601020 blocks, > 2347 MB > 0e88(ECKD) at (254: 12) is dasdbp:active at blocksize: 4096, 601020 blocks, > 2347 MB > 0e8c(ECKD) at (254: 16) is dasdbq:active at blocksize: 4096, 601020 blocks, > 2347 MB > 0e9b(ECKD) at (254: 20) is dasdbr:active at blocksize: 4096, 601020 blocks, > 2347 MB > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Rich Smrcina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 10:51 AM > Subject: Re: LVM problem > > > Does dasdbp1 exist? Send the output from 'cat /dev/dasd/devices'. > > On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 08:14, Nilson Vieira wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I have LVM 0.9.1 installed on a suse 7.2 production Lpar > > > > When i run vgscan it goes like that > > > > itapoa:/ora-backup # vgscan > > vgscan -- reading all physical volumes (this may take a while...) > > vgscan -- found active volume group "discovg08" > > vgscan -- found active volume group "discovg" > > vgscan -- found active volume group "discovg02" > > vgscan -- found active volume group "discovg03" > > vgscan -- found active volume group "discovg06" > > vgscan -- found active volume group "discovg05" > > vgscan -- found active volume group "discovg07" > > vgscan -- "/etc/lvmtab" and "/etc/lvmtab.d" successfully created > > vgscan -- WARNING: This program does not do a VGDA backup of your volume > groups > > > > > > But when i try pvcreate ... > > > > itapoa:/ # pvcreate /dev/dasdbp1 > > pvcreate -- ERROR: VGDA in kernel and lvmtab are NOT consistent; please > run vgscan > > > > > > I tried vgscan and didn4t change anything. > > > > Please Help; > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > Rich Smrcina > illustro Systems International, LLC > --- See The Light--- > Visit www.illustro.com to experience: > z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe > z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe > > Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 > > Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org > WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: good basic editors: gui or command line
If you are interested in something with a mainframe look and feel, install THE. It's on the SLES CD and has an XEdit compatibility mode. On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 15:44, Terry Spaulding wrote: > To the list, > > I am looking for a couple of good basic editors that are command line or > gui but are free or come with SuSE SLES8 for zSeries ? > > Anything but vi or vim that would be good for very infrequent users of an > editor. > > TIA. > > Regards, > Terry L. Spaulding > IBM Global Services > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: FW: Java runtime environment on SUSE LINUX Enterprise 8
Java works just fine on Linux for zSeries. It can be downloaded from http://www.ibm.com/java. On Wed, 2004-07-14 at 12:11, Miller, Ila wrote: > > We need to get java 1.3.0 or any jre to run on SUSE LINUX ENTERPRISE 8 running in > > a z900 partition. Is there a way to make this work or do we have to wait until > > Tivoli Monitoring supports Suse Linux Enterprise 8 and makes this work?I > > believe the reason it doesn't work is because java does not work there. > > > > Ila Z. Miller > > ___ > > ___ > > Health Care Information Systems > > University of Iowa Hospitals & Clinics > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Phone: 319.356.0067 > > FAX: 319.356.3521 > > > > Notice: This e-mail (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic > > Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be > > legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby > > notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this > > communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you have > > received the message in error, then delete it. Thank you. > > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Process fault 03B
How much virtual storage is defined for the guest? On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 12:54, Lee Stewart wrote: > Hi... > > During a new SLES8 install, has anyone ever seen a: > user process fault 03B > during an install? This happened while in Yast, right after formatting the > dasd (dasdfmt, fdasd, in the separate ssh session), then going back to > Yast, selecting New Install, then the yast session closed and the process > fault message was on the VM console... > > Thoughts? > Lee > > Lee Stewart, Senior SE > Sirius Enterprise Systems Group > (719) 566-0188 , Fax (309) 410-5363 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.siriuscom.com > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Process fault 03B
You don't mention mke2fs. Did you run that after fdasd? On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 13:09, Lee Stewart wrote: > 256MB... > > Lee > > At 12:04 PM 7/15/2004, you wrote: > >How much virtual storage is defined for the guest? > > > >On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 12:54, Lee Stewart wrote: > > > Hi... > > > > > > During a new SLES8 install, has anyone ever seen a: > > > user process fault 03B > > > during an install? This happened while in Yast, right after formatting the > > > dasd (dasdfmt, fdasd, in the separate ssh session), then going back to > > > Yast, selecting New Install, then the yast session closed and the process > > > fault message was on the VM console... > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > Lee > > > > > > Lee Stewart, Senior SE > > > Sirius Enterprise Systems Group > > > (719) 566-0188 , Fax (309) 410-5363 > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > www.siriuscom.com > > > > > > -- > > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 > > or visit > > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > >-- > >Rich Smrcina > >illustro Systems International, LLC > > --- See The Light--- > >Visit www.illustro.com to experience: > > z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe > > z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe > > > >Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 > > > >Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org > >WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 > > > >-- > >For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > >http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > Lee Stewart, Senior SE > Sirius Enterprise Systems Group > (719) 566-0188 , Fax (309) 410-5363 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.siriuscom.com > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Guest Machine Recycle
VM will attempt to automatically restart after an abend. Check OPERATORs RDR for VM console logs. After an abend one of the first messages that should come up should indicate why it re-ipled. On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 15:40, Henderson, Louis E. wrote: > Sure enough q cplevel shows 7 a.m or so in the morning there was an IPL. > It wasn't always that way. I don't know who changed it. Where would an > automatic IPL request or setting be located in VM? > > Thanks! > MVS SYSPROG swimming in VM. > > > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Ferguson, Neale > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 11:45 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Guest Machine Recycle > > - Issue #CP Q CPLEVEL to see when VM was last recycled > - Check the VM operator log to see how they are logged off > > You may want to try: > On each of the guests' consoles: #CP SP CONS STA TO If > the machines are logged off you will receive a log of the console which > should give you some clues. > > Do you leave them connected to a console (i.e. you don't disconnect)? If > so, what type of terminals are they (local coax, tn3270)? If they are > left connected then before you go home: #CP SET RUN ON#DISC > > > -Original Message- > I have six LINUX guest machines running under VM. When I get to work in > the morning, they are not running and I have to start them again. What > would be causing the recycling of all guest machines at night? Or is VM > itself, in its entirety being recycled. Any help? > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > > Our name has changed. Please update your address book to the following format: > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". > > This message contains information that may be privileged or confidential and is the > property of the Capgemini Group. It is intended only for the person to whom it is > addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorized to read, > print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or use this message or any part > thereof. If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately > and delete all copies of this message. > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: yast asking for CD
There should be a YaST option to 'Change Installation Source' (or something like that). It will accept an FTP server, among other things. You can put the CD in a Linux Intel machine and use it as your installation source. On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 17:23, Ranga Nathan wrote: > When I do > yast -i > after a long spin, it asks for CD1 to be inserted. Our mainframe is > located in Colorado and we are in CA. Is anyone aware of any way to point > yast to a directory or better still an FTP site? > > Thanks > __ > Ranga Nathan / CSG > Systems Programmer - Specialist; Technical Services; > BAX Global Inc. Irvine-California > Tel: 714-442-7591 Fax: 714-442-2840 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: mp2003
There is no 'upgrade' path. You have to do a new install. On Fri, 2004-07-23 at 08:23, Noll, Ralph wrote: > I have a multiprise 2003 and have suse linux 2.2.16 loaded > I would like to upgrade.. Either to a newew suse or put debian. > It has been 3 years since I have messed with this thing(it just runs and > runs)... > How so I go about doing this > > Thanks for all help > > Ralph > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: mp2003
You're IPLing a Linux tape on a MP2K and the Operating System message icon doesn't display any messages? Which Linux? What type of MP2K? On Fri, 2004-07-23 at 08:36, Noll, Ralph wrote: > Ok I tried to ipl from tape.. The integrated console says unavailable.. > How do I respond to messages or whatever.. Send commands??? > This is just a native boc.. No VM.. Just loading linux on this machine > We are going to use this in our DMZ > > -Original Message- > From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 8:32 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: mp2003 > > There is no 'upgrade' path. You have to do a new install. > > On Fri, 2004-07-23 at 08:23, Noll, Ralph wrote: > > I have a multiprise 2003 and have suse linux 2.2.16 loaded I would > > like to upgrade.. Either to a newew suse or put debian. > > It has been 3 years since I have messed with this thing(it just runs > > and runs)... > > How so I go about doing this > > > > Thanks for all help > > > > Ralph > > > > -- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > > email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > > visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > Rich Smrcina > illustro Systems International, LLC > --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to > experience: > z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe > z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe > > Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 > > Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org > WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > ------ > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: GPFS
How about rsync? No sharing required. On Fri, 2004-07-23 at 08:52, Kohrs, Steven wrote: > Has anyone implemented IBM's General Parallel File System (GPFS) on > Linux guests running under VM? We're looking for a way to keep Web > content synced between multiple Web servers. We've tried sharing a > common volume, but due to Mini-Disk Caching (just a guess), changes are > not seen by the guests until they are re-IPLed. > > What about the Lustre File System? GFS*? Others I don't know about? > > Thanks. > > > * Since Red Hat purchased Sistina, I can't find any information on GFS > for SLES 8. > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: mp2003
That's what I did, worked great. On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 10:43, Adam Thornton wrote: > On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 08:50, Vic Cross wrote: > > On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Adam Thornton wrote: > > > > > If you're running on an MP2k3, you could also get Matt Zimmerman's > > > preconfigured DASD image (50 MB) from: > > > http://people.debian.org/~mdz/hercules/Debian-3.0r1.3390 > > > > Sorry Adam, Matt's image uses the Hercules CCKD compressed format so it > > won't work on other emulators. Good thinking, but! :) > > Well, fetch it, use cckd2ckd from Hercules to uncompress it, and then it > should work, right? > > Adam > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: MySQL 4.0
I've used it a little, nothing complex or intense. A pointer to a S/390 RPM was just posted. It looks like the RPMs are kept fairly up to date. On Mon, 2004-07-26 at 17:31, Marcy Cortes wrote: > Has anyone run this on SuSE 8? Does anyone know where I can find it in .rpm > format? > > Marcy Cortes > > > This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you > are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you > must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or > any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please > advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. > Thank you for your cooperation." > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Installation and administration
You have much more flexibility with VM. You can also run many Linux instances under VM to accomplish varying tasks. There are lots of other benefits as well, see: http://www.vm.ibm.com/linux/benefits.html On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 06:18, Maneesh Menon wrote: > Hello, > > We are planning to install Linux on Bare machine. > Should we opt for VM directly, instead? > > > With regards, > Maneesh > > > > -Original Message- > From: Maneesh Menon > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 4:12 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Installation and administration > > Hello, > > I am currently into a self initiated project of running Linux on > mainframe. > > However before going deep into Linux and mainframe, I would like to know > more about the administrative part of the mainframe. > Please help me with pointers to installation process of any operating > system onto bare mainframe. > I would appreciate if someone could guide me. > > Also provide pointers to the vendors for trial version of Linux on > mainframe and the pricing of their gamma versions. > > With regards, > Maneesh > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Under what conditions will Linux start releasing Cache?
What is this machine used for? 110 MB of cache is pretty much a waste of storage. If the machine eats into all (or most) of that before it finally croaks, then you have a memory hog or leak somewhere. I've seen that happen with WebSphere and it turned out to be an application problem. The cache will slowly get released to a certain point, then paging will begin and the paging/cacheing dance will begin. When the page device fills and the cache is gone then your up the creek... On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 09:25, James Melin wrote: > I've got a linux guest that is pushing the wall, 17 megs free and dropping. > Swapping is going to be inevitable. The problem is that the memory usage > growth is slow, and that cache grows to 110 meg before we start to approach > the wall. Will SLES8 start to release or clean the cache before swapping > becomes rampant? > > > > Since there seems to be no way to control the cache in SLES8, which really > sucks since, in our situation, it is caching unimportant things. None of > the application data is local. If there are any of the Linux Kernal > developers monitoring this list, add my voice to those that are telling you > that not being able to control cache behavior is a really frustrating when > working in a virtualized environment where you are trying to divide limited > resources amongst many guests. The Cache behaviour is the biggest > non-application pig that I can see. > > Just my 2 cents > > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Java2 for PHP 4.2.2 Source Rebuild
You can download IBM Java for Linux for zSeries at http://www.ibm.com/java. On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 09:41, Seader, Cameron wrote: > Greetings, > I am in the process of Building PHP from source to include --with-ibm-db2 so that i > can connect to a db2 database. When i try to do an rpm -bi mod_php4.spec it starts > the process and then gives me this error. > > linuxk:/usr/src/packages/SPECS # rpm -bi mod_php4.spec > Executing(%prep): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.96649 > + umask 022 > + cd /usr/src/packages/BUILD > + '[' '!' -e /usr/include/libxml ']' > + cd /usr/src/packages/BUILD > + rm -rf php-4.2.2 > + /usr/bin/bzip2 -dc /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/php-4.2.2.tar.bz2 > + tar -xf - > + STATUS=0 > + '[' 0 -ne 0 ']' > + cd php-4.2.2 > ++ /usr/bin/id -u > + '[' 0 = 0 ']' > + /bin/chown -Rhf root . > ++ /usr/bin/id -u > + '[' 0 = 0 ']' > + /bin/chgrp -Rhf root . > + /bin/chmod -Rf a+rX,g-w,o-w . > + cd /usr/src/packages/BUILD > + /bin/mkdir -p php-4.2.2 > + cd php-4.2.2 > + /usr/bin/bzip2 -dc /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/dist.99.linux.tar.bz2 > + tar -xf - > + STATUS=0 > + '[' 0 -ne 0 ']' > + /usr/bin/bzip2 -dc /usr/src/packages/SOURCES/asp2php-0.76.12.tar.bz2 > + tar -xf - > + STATUS=0 > + '[' 0 -ne 0 ']' > ++ /usr/bin/id -u > + '[' 0 = 0 ']' > + /bin/chown -Rhf root . > ++ /usr/bin/id -u > + '[' 0 = 0 ']' > + /bin/chgrp -Rhf root . > + /bin/chmod -Rf a+rX,g-w,o-w . > + echo 'Patch #0 (php-4.2.2.dif):' > Patch #0 (php-4.2.2.dif): > + patch -p0 -s > + echo 'Patch #1 (php-4.2.2-java.dif):' > Patch #1 (php-4.2.2-java.dif): > + patch -p0 -s > + echo 'Patch #2 (php-4.2.2-lib64.dif):' > Patch #2 (php-4.2.2-lib64.dif): > + patch -p0 -s > + echo 'Patch #3 (php-4.2.2-url.dif):' > Patch #3 (php-4.2.2-url.dif): > + patch -p0 -s > + exit 0 > Executing(%build): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.98937 > + umask 022 > + cd /usr/src/packages/BUILD > + cd php-4.2.2 > + libtoolize --force > Using `AC_PROG_RANLIB' is rendered obsolete by `AC_PROG_LIBTOOL' > You should update your `aclocal.m4' by running aclocal. > + aclocal > + autoheader > WARNING: Using auxiliary files such as `acconfig.h', `config.h.bot' > WARNING: and `config.h.top', to define templates for `config.h.in' > WARNING: is deprecated and discouraged. > > WARNING: Using the third argument of `AC_DEFINE' and > WARNING: `AC_DEFINE_UNQUOTED' allows to define a template without > WARNING: `acconfig.h': > > WARNING: AC_DEFINE([NEED_MAIN], 1, > WARNING: [Define if a function `main' is needed.]) > > WARNING: More sophisticated templates can also be produced, see the > WARNING: documentation. > configure.in:186: warning: AC_PROG_LEX invoked multiple times > autoheader: `main/php_config.h.in' is updated > + autoconf > + exit 0 > Executing(%install): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.46418 > + umask 022 > + cd /usr/src/packages/BUILD > + cd php-4.2.2 > + DYNAMIC_MODULES= > + '[' -e /usr/lib64/libssl.so ']' > + DYNAMIC_MODULES= --with-openssl > + '[' -e /usr/bin/curl-config ']' > + DYNAMIC_MODULES= --with-openssl --with-curl > + DYNAMIC_MODULES= --with-openssl --with-curl --with-imap-ssl > + DYNAMIC_MODULES= --with-openssl --with-curl --with-imap-ssl --enable-xslt > --with-xslt-sablot > + LIST=apache core > + LIST=aol servlet apache core > + rm -f ./.status > + . setJava --devel Java2 > ++ SET_JAVA_PL_HELP=no > ++ '[' --devel == --help ']' > ++ '[' Java2 == --help ']' > +++ setJava.pl --encaps 'source setJava' setenv --devel Java2 > Error: no valid java configuration found in directory /etc/java > ++ SET_JAVA_PL_OUTPUT= > Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.46418 (%install) > > Where can i find Java2 so that i can finish this build? is there something im > missing? I have the IBM java2 sdk installed, but that does not seem to be that > package it is looking for. Has anyone Built an RPM for PHP that includes ibm-db2 > support? > > any help would be appreciated. > Thanks, > Cameron Seader > > > This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or > exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, > you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the > information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY > PROHIBITED. If you received this transmissio
Re: Under what conditions will Linux start releasing Cache?
The cache will grow as the data blocks are read in from the filesystem. That is all the cache is used for, storing filesystem data in an easily accessed place. When an application needs more memory the cache will be released to a point. The symptom that we were seeing was the paging device filling up and cache being depleted. The virtual machine would usually go into a loop. Internally, WebSphere was doing some thrashing on it's own. It was basically in continuous garbage collection, trying to release storage for the needs of the application. It turned out that the application was doing a DB2 query and under certain circumstances did not put any conditions on the query, so the entire table would be read into an object (a 120MB object!). WebSphere dutifully tried to acquire enough storage to hold the whole table, but was not able to do so. It would start garbage collection, release a few objects, then some more rows could be retrieved, on and on, until it couldn't release any more storage. On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 09:51, James Melin wrote: > This is Websphere. What would cause cache to grow constantly, from an > application perspective. What did you see in your application? > > > > Rich Smrcina > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > o.com> To > Sent by: Linux on [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 390 Port cc > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > IST.EDU> Subject >Re: Under what conditions will >Linux start releasing Cache? > 07/28/2004 09:39 > AM > > > Please respond to > Linux on 390 Port > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > IST.EDU> > > > > > > > What is this machine used for? 110 MB of cache is pretty much a waste > of storage. If the machine eats into all (or most) of that before it > finally croaks, then you have a memory hog or leak somewhere. > > I've seen that happen with WebSphere and it turned out to be an > application problem. > > The cache will slowly get released to a certain point, then paging will > begin and the paging/cacheing dance will begin. When the page device > fills and the cache is gone then your up the creek... > > On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 09:25, James Melin wrote: > > I've got a linux guest that is pushing the wall, 17 megs free and > dropping. > > Swapping is going to be inevitable. The problem is that the memory usage > > growth is slow, and that cache grows to 110 meg before we start to > approach > > the wall. Will SLES8 start to release or clean the cache before swapping > > becomes rampant? > > > > > > > > Since there seems to be no way to control the cache in SLES8, which > really > > sucks since, in our situation, it is caching unimportant things. None of > > the application data is local. If there are any of the Linux Kernal > > developers monitoring this list, add my voice to those that are telling > you > > that not being able to control cache behavior is a really frustrating > when > > working in a virtualized environment where you are trying to divide > limited > > resources amongst many guests. The Cache behaviour is the biggest > > non-application pig that I can see. > > > > Just my 2 cents > > > > > > > > -- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > Rich Smrcina > illustro Systems International, LLC > --- See The Light--- > Visit www.illustro.com to experience: > z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe > z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe > > Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 > > Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org > WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-3
Re: Under what conditions will Linux start releasing Cache?
No, but pretty much anything read off the filesystem is eligible for the cache (unless you're using raw devices). If you want to reduce the cache and your application is reasonably well behaved AND you have limits on the WebSphere heap you should be able to reduce your virtual machine size. Maybe drop it by 48M or 64M. On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 10:21, James Melin wrote: > Ahhh. Well we're not doing anything like that. I was watching the cache and > it fell before any swapping happened. Still overing at 99.6 megs from a > peak of 114. Not swapping to disk at all yet. I'm just wondering what it is > caching since all we have are JSP's. java related stuff and application > image files etc that are being held locally. Is there anyway to > interrogate the cache? > > > > > Rich Smrcina > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > o.com> To > Sent by: Linux on [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 390 Port cc > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > IST.EDU> Subject >Re: Under what conditions will >Linux start releasing Cache? > 07/28/2004 10:08 > AM > > > Please respond to > Linux on 390 Port > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > IST.EDU> > > > > > > > The cache will grow as the data blocks are read in from the filesystem. > That is all the cache is used for, storing filesystem data in an easily > accessed place. When an application needs more memory the cache will be > released to a point. > > The symptom that we were seeing was the paging device filling up and > cache being depleted. The virtual machine would usually go into a > loop. Internally, WebSphere was doing some thrashing on it's own. It > was basically in continuous garbage collection, trying to release > storage for the needs of the application. > > It turned out that the application was doing a DB2 query and under > certain circumstances did not put any conditions on the query, so the > entire table would be read into an object (a 120MB object!). WebSphere > dutifully tried to acquire enough storage to hold the whole table, but > was not able to do so. It would start garbage collection, release a few > objects, then some more rows could be retrieved, on and on, until it > couldn't release any more storage. > > On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 09:51, James Melin wrote: > > This is Websphere. What would cause cache to grow constantly, from an > > application perspective. What did you see in your application? > > > > > > > > Rich Smrcina > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > o.com> > To > > Sent by: Linux on [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 390 Port > cc > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > IST.EDU> > Subject > >Re: Under what conditions will > >Linux start releasing Cache? > > 07/28/2004 09:39 > > AM > > > > > > Please respond to > > Linux on 390 Port > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > IST.EDU> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is this machine used for? 110 MB of cache is pretty much a waste > > of storage. If the machine eats into all (or most) of that before it > > finally croaks, then you have a memory hog or leak somewhere. > > > > I've seen that happen with WebSphere and it turned out to be an > > application problem. > > > > The cache will slowly get released to a certain point, then paging will > > begin and the paging/cacheing dance will begin. When the page device > > fills and the cache is gone then your up the creek... > > > > On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 09:25, James Melin wrote: > > > I've got a linux guest that is pushing the wall, 17 megs free and > > dropping. > > > Swapping is going to be inevitable. The problem is that the memory > usage > > > growth is slow, and that cache grows to 110 meg before we start to > > approach > > > the wall. Will SLES8 start to release or clean the cache before > swapping > > > becomes rampant? > > > > > > > > > > > > Since there seems to be no way to control the cach
Re: PHP4 SLES8 Apache 1.3 DB2 Connect
es' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo: In function `zif_odbc_autocommit': > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x5daa): undefined reference to > `SQLSetConnectOption' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x5e5c): undefined reference to > `SQLGetConnectOption' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo: In function `zif_odbc_setoption': > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x6252): undefined reference to > `SQLSetStmtOption' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x6326): undefined reference to > `SQLSetConnectOption' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo: In function `zif_odbc_tables': > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x66aa): undefined reference to `SQLAllocStmt' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x6784): undefined reference to `SQLTables' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x67b0): undefined reference to > `SQLNumResultCols' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo: In function `zif_odbc_columns': > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x6cb6): undefined reference to `SQLAllocStmt' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x6d66): undefined reference to `SQLColumns' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x6d92): undefined reference to > `SQLNumResultCols' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo: In function `zif_odbc_columnprivileges': > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x720a): undefined reference to `SQLAllocStmt' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x72be): undefined reference to > `SQLColumnPrivileges' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x72ea): undefined reference to > `SQLNumResultCols' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo: In function `zif_odbc_foreignkeys': > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x780e): undefined reference to `SQLAllocStmt' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x7916): undefined reference to `SQLForeignKeys' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x7942): undefined reference to > `SQLNumResultCols' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo: In function `zif_odbc_gettypeinfo': > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x7d9e): undefined reference to `SQLAllocStmt' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x7dce): undefined reference to `SQLGetTypeInfo' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x7dfa): undefined reference to > `SQLNumResultCols' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo: In function `zif_odbc_primarykeys': > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x80ea): undefined reference to `SQLAllocStmt' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x8172): undefined reference to `SQLPrimaryKeys' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x819e): undefined reference to > `SQLNumResultCols' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo: In function `zif_odbc_procedurecolumns': > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x85c6): undefined reference to `SQLAllocStmt' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x867a): undefined reference to > `SQLProcedureColumns' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x86a6): undefined reference to > `SQLNumResultCols' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo: In function `zif_odbc_procedures': > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x8aec): undefined reference to `SQLAllocStmt' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x8b74): undefined reference to `SQLProcedures' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x8ba0): undefined reference to > `SQLNumResultCols' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo: In function `zif_odbc_specialcolumns': > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x9070): undefined reference to `SQLAllocStmt' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x9146): undefined reference to > `SQLSpecialColumns' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x9172): undefined reference to > `SQLNumResultCols' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo: In function `zif_odbc_statistics': > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x9704): undefined reference to `SQLAllocStmt' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x97c0): undefined reference to `SQLStatistics' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x97ec): undefined reference to > `SQLNumResultCols' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo: In function `zif_odbc_tableprivileges': > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x9c6e): undefined reference to `SQLAllocStmt' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x9cf6): undefined reference to > `SQLTablePrivileges' > ext/odbc/php_odbc.lo(.text+0x9d22): undefined reference to > `SQLNumResultCols' > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > make: *** [sapi/cli/php] Error 1 > > The line at the top that says skipping incompatible > /home/db2admin/sqllib/lib/libdb2.so when searching for -ldb2 what does this > mean? Is my DB2 Connect not compatible with this or something. Thats the > only thing i can think of. Anyone have any ideas. I have never ever seen > these errors before. > > TIA > -Cameron Seader > > > [INFO] -- Access Manager: > This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential > and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the > intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, > distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any > reliance thereo
Re: DB2 versions WAS: PHP4 SLES8 Apache 1.3 DB2 Connect
I posted yesterday... I think it's in Fixpak 5. Check out the downloads/fixpaks/apars page and verify it in the readme or fixpak notes. On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 08:26, Seader, Cameron wrote: > I have a Question about DB2 versions for z/Series 64-bit SLES 8, from this document > here it states no 64-bit. > <http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/db2/linux/validate/sles8.html> > If you look elsewhere at other sources it states that there is a version for 64-bit > z/Series Linux. > Here are the offerings: > Linux(TM) (S/390(R) and zSeries(R) 64-bit) Product list: > * DB2 Connect Application Server Edition, Version 8 > * DB2 Connect Enterprise Edition, Version 8 > * DB2 Connect Unlimited Edition, Version 8 > Does anyone know for sure if there is a 64-bit version of DB2 Connect that i can use > on my 64-bit SLES 8 for z/Series? > TIA, > Cameron Seader > > > -Original Message- > From: Josi Manuel Canelas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 04:37 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: PHP4 SLES8 Apache 1.3 DB2 Connect > > > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:20:27 -0600 > "Seader, Cameron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > yeah it will build just fine, but does anyone know of an alternative, so that i > > can connect my php apps to a db2 database. > > are there some other drivers i can use in php to connect to a db2 database. > > -Cameron > > Well, if all you want is your PHP apps talking to DB2 then you may not need to use > the db2 calls from PHP. You may be able to use a generic PHP SQL library to get a > db2 client installed on the same to connect to the DB2 server (maybe using ODBC > calls). Take a look at PEAR:DB (at http://pear.php.net/) which abstracts the DB > interface nicely, keeping your code valid no matter what brand the database is. > > Josi Canelas > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or > exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, > you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the > information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY > PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact > the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard > copy format. Thank you. A1. > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: DB2 versions WAS: PHP4 SLES8 Apache 1.3 DB2 Connect
Sorry, Cameron, it looks like it might be Fixpak 6. There is an entry for Linux (zSeries 64-bit), but the site seems to be quite slow, navigating it is painful... On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 08:33, Seader, Cameron wrote: > Currently right now we have this version, and it is not 64-bit for db2 connect. > > DB21085I Instance "db2admin" uses "32" bits and DB2 code release "SQL08015" > with level identifier "02060106". > Informational tokens are "DB2 v8.1.0.48", "s040212", "MI00073", and FixPak "5". > Product is installed at "/opt/IBM/db2/V8.1". > > -Cameron > > -Original Message- > From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 07:30 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: DB2 versions WAS: PHP4 SLES8 Apache 1.3 DB2 Connect > > > I posted yesterday... I think it's in Fixpak 5. Check out the > downloads/fixpaks/apars page and verify it in the readme or fixpak > notes. > > On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 08:26, Seader, Cameron wrote: > > I have a Question about DB2 versions for z/Series 64-bit SLES 8, from this > > document here it states no 64-bit. > > <http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/db2/linux/validate/sles8.html> > > If you look elsewhere at other sources it states that there is a version for > > 64-bit z/Series Linux. > > Here are the offerings: > > Linux(TM) (S/390(R) and zSeries(R) 64-bit) Product list: > > * DB2 Connect Application Server Edition, Version 8 > > * DB2 Connect Enterprise Edition, Version 8 > > * DB2 Connect Unlimited Edition, Version 8 > > Does anyone know for sure if there is a 64-bit version of DB2 Connect that i can > > use on my 64-bit SLES 8 for z/Series? > > TIA, > > Cameron Seader > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Josi Manuel Canelas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 04:37 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: PHP4 SLES8 Apache 1.3 DB2 Connect > > > > > > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:20:27 -0600 > > "Seader, Cameron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > yeah it will build just fine, but does anyone know of an alternative, so that i > > > can connect my php apps to a db2 database. > > > are there some other drivers i can use in php to connect to a db2 database. > > > -Cameron > > > > Well, if all you want is your PHP apps talking to DB2 then you may not need to use > > the db2 calls from PHP. You may be able to use a generic PHP SQL library to get a > > db2 client installed on the same to connect to the DB2 server (maybe using ODBC > > calls). Take a look at PEAR:DB (at http://pear.php.net/) which abstracts the DB > > interface nicely, keeping your code valid no matter what brand the database is. > > > > Josi Canelas > > > > -- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > > > > This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or > > exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended > > recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or > > use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is > > STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please > > immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether > > in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. > > > > -- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > Rich Smrcina > illustro Systems International, LLC > --- See The Light--- > Visit www.illustro.com to experience: > z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe > z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe > > Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 > > Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org > WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit >
Re: DB2 versions WAS: PHP4 SLES8 Apache 1.3 DB2 Connect
Watch for wrapping URL: http://www-306.ibm.com/cgi-bin/db2www/data/db2/udb/winos2unix/support/download.d2w/report On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 08:52, Seader, Cameron wrote: > Can you pass me the URL. > Thanks > Cameron > > -Original Message----- > From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 07:47 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: DB2 versions WAS: PHP4 SLES8 Apache 1.3 DB2 Connect > > > Sorry, Cameron, it looks like it might be Fixpak 6. There is an entry > for Linux (zSeries 64-bit), but the site seems to be quite slow, > navigating it is painful... > > On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 08:33, Seader, Cameron wrote: > > Currently right now we have this version, and it is not 64-bit for db2 connect. > > > > DB21085I Instance "db2admin" uses "32" bits and DB2 code release "SQL08015" > > with level identifier "02060106". > > Informational tokens are "DB2 v8.1.0.48", "s040212", "MI00073", and FixPak "5". > > Product is installed at "/opt/IBM/db2/V8.1". > > > > -Cameron > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 07:30 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: DB2 versions WAS: PHP4 SLES8 Apache 1.3 DB2 Connect > > > > > > I posted yesterday... I think it's in Fixpak 5. Check out the > > downloads/fixpaks/apars page and verify it in the readme or fixpak > > notes. > > > > On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 08:26, Seader, Cameron wrote: > > > I have a Question about DB2 versions for z/Series 64-bit SLES 8, from this > > > document here it states no 64-bit. > > > <http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/db2/linux/validate/sles8.html> > > > If you look elsewhere at other sources it states that there is a version for > > > 64-bit z/Series Linux. > > > Here are the offerings: > > > Linux(TM) (S/390(R) and zSeries(R) 64-bit) Product list: > > > * DB2 Connect Application Server Edition, Version 8 > > > * DB2 Connect Enterprise Edition, Version 8 > > > * DB2 Connect Unlimited Edition, Version 8 > > > Does anyone know for sure if there is a 64-bit version of DB2 Connect that i can > > > use on my 64-bit SLES 8 for z/Series? > > > TIA, > > > Cameron Seader > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Josi Manuel Canelas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 04:37 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: PHP4 SLES8 Apache 1.3 DB2 Connect > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:20:27 -0600 > > > "Seader, Cameron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > yeah it will build just fine, but does anyone know of an alternative, so that > > > > i can connect my php apps to a db2 database. > > > > are there some other drivers i can use in php to connect to a db2 database. > > > > -Cameron > > > > > > Well, if all you want is your PHP apps talking to DB2 then you may not need to > > > use the db2 calls from PHP. You may be able to use a generic PHP SQL library to > > > get a db2 client installed on the same to connect to the DB2 server (maybe using > > > ODBC calls). Take a look at PEAR:DB (at http://pear.php.net/) which abstracts > > > the DB interface nicely, keeping your code valid no matter what brand the > > > database is. > > > > > > Josi Canelas > > > > > > -- > > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > > > > > > > This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential > > > and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended > > > recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, > > > or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is > > > STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please > > > immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether > > > in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. > > > > > > -- > > > For LINUX-390 subscri
Re: DB2 versions WAS: PHP4 SLES8 Apache 1.3 DB2 Connect
I've not installed it so I don't know. Jim's comment is the most relevant, it is 64-bit tolerant. On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 10:51, Seader, Cameron wrote: > Well I did get the fixpack 6 downloaded and i took a peek inside the tar file and it > has s390x rpm's, so this is a good indicator that this is 64 bit. However when you > install these does it update the base packages to 64 bit, because i don't see a base > install for s390x. > -Cameron > > -Original Message- > From: Seader, Cameron > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 07:52 > To: 'Linux on 390 Port' > Subject: RE: DB2 versions WAS: PHP4 SLES8 Apache 1.3 DB2 Connect > > > Can you pass me the URL. > Thanks > Cameron > > -Original Message- > From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 07:47 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: DB2 versions WAS: PHP4 SLES8 Apache 1.3 DB2 Connect > > > Sorry, Cameron, it looks like it might be Fixpak 6. There is an entry > for Linux (zSeries 64-bit), but the site seems to be quite slow, > navigating it is painful... > > On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 08:33, Seader, Cameron wrote: > > Currently right now we have this version, and it is not 64-bit for db2 connect. > > > > DB21085I Instance "db2admin" uses "32" bits and DB2 code release "SQL08015" > > with level identifier "02060106". > > Informational tokens are "DB2 v8.1.0.48", "s040212", "MI00073", and FixPak "5". > > Product is installed at "/opt/IBM/db2/V8.1". > > > > -Cameron > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 07:30 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: DB2 versions WAS: PHP4 SLES8 Apache 1.3 DB2 Connect > > > > > > I posted yesterday... I think it's in Fixpak 5. Check out the > > downloads/fixpaks/apars page and verify it in the readme or fixpak > > notes. > > > > On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 08:26, Seader, Cameron wrote: > > > I have a Question about DB2 versions for z/Series 64-bit SLES 8, from this > > > document here it states no 64-bit. > > > <http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/db2/linux/validate/sles8.html> > > > If you look elsewhere at other sources it states that there is a version for > > > 64-bit z/Series Linux. > > > Here are the offerings: > > > Linux(TM) (S/390(R) and zSeries(R) 64-bit) Product list: > > > * DB2 Connect Application Server Edition, Version 8 > > > * DB2 Connect Enterprise Edition, Version 8 > > > * DB2 Connect Unlimited Edition, Version 8 > > > Does anyone know for sure if there is a 64-bit version of DB2 Connect that i can > > > use on my 64-bit SLES 8 for z/Series? > > > TIA, > > > Cameron Seader > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Josi Manuel Canelas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 04:37 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: PHP4 SLES8 Apache 1.3 DB2 Connect > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:20:27 -0600 > > > "Seader, Cameron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > yeah it will build just fine, but does anyone know of an alternative, so that > > > > i can connect my php apps to a db2 database. > > > > are there some other drivers i can use in php to connect to a db2 database. > > > > -Cameron > > > > > > Well, if all you want is your PHP apps talking to DB2 then you may not need to > > > use the db2 calls from PHP. You may be able to use a generic PHP SQL library to > > > get a db2 client installed on the same to connect to the DB2 server (maybe using > > > ODBC calls). Take a look at PEAR:DB (at http://pear.php.net/) which abstracts > > > the DB interface nicely, keeping your code valid no matter what brand the > > > database is. > > > > > > Josi Canelas > > > > > > -- > > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > > > > > > > This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential > > > and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended > > > recipient, you are her
Re: DB2 versions WAS: PHP4 SLES8 Apache 1.3 DB2 Connect
I think 'toleration' here is simply meant that it is tested and supported to run in a 64-bit system. As to any development libraries for your PHP build, you may need to wait out 8.2. On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 11:04, Seader, Cameron wrote: > So if i apply this 64bit fixpack 6 to it, will that work and make it 64 bit? > Seems a strange way to do it, but hey if it works then great. > The fixpack 6 is found here: > http://www-306.ibm.com/cgi-bin/db2www/data/db2/udb/winos2unix/support/download.d2w/report > > -Cameron > > -Original Message- > From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 10:00 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: DB2 versions WAS: PHP4 SLES8 Apache 1.3 DB2 Connect > > > I've not installed it so I don't know. Jim's comment is the most > relevant, it is 64-bit tolerant. > > On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 10:51, Seader, Cameron wrote: > > Well I did get the fixpack 6 downloaded and i took a peek inside the tar file and > > it has s390x rpm's, so this is a good indicator that this is 64 bit. However when > > you install these does it update the base packages to 64 bit, because i don't see > > a base install for s390x. > > -Cameron > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Seader, Cameron > > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 07:52 > > To: 'Linux on 390 Port' > > Subject: RE: DB2 versions WAS: PHP4 SLES8 Apache 1.3 DB2 Connect > > > > > > Can you pass me the URL. > > Thanks > > Cameron > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 07:47 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: DB2 versions WAS: PHP4 SLES8 Apache 1.3 DB2 Connect > > > > > > Sorry, Cameron, it looks like it might be Fixpak 6. There is an entry > > for Linux (zSeries 64-bit), but the site seems to be quite slow, > > navigating it is painful... > > > > On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 08:33, Seader, Cameron wrote: > > > Currently right now we have this version, and it is not 64-bit for db2 connect. > > > > > > DB21085I Instance "db2admin" uses "32" bits and DB2 code release "SQL08015" > > > with level identifier "02060106". > > > Informational tokens are "DB2 v8.1.0.48", "s040212", "MI00073", and FixPak "5". > > > Product is installed at "/opt/IBM/db2/V8.1". > > > > > > -Cameron > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 07:30 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: DB2 versions WAS: PHP4 SLES8 Apache 1.3 DB2 Connect > > > > > > > > > I posted yesterday... I think it's in Fixpak 5. Check out the > > > downloads/fixpaks/apars page and verify it in the readme or fixpak > > > notes. > > > > > > On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 08:26, Seader, Cameron wrote: > > > > I have a Question about DB2 versions for z/Series 64-bit SLES 8, from this > > > > document here it states no 64-bit. > > > > <http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/db2/linux/validate/sles8.html> > > > > If you look elsewhere at other sources it states that there is a version for > > > > 64-bit z/Series Linux. > > > > Here are the offerings: > > > > Linux(TM) (S/390(R) and zSeries(R) 64-bit) Product list: > > > > * DB2 Connect Application Server Edition, Version 8 > > > > * DB2 Connect Enterprise Edition, Version 8 > > > > * DB2 Connect Unlimited Edition, Version 8 > > > > Does anyone know for sure if there is a 64-bit version of DB2 Connect that i > > > > can use on my 64-bit SLES 8 for z/Series? > > > > TIA, > > > > Cameron Seader > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Josi Manuel Canelas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 04:37 > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: Re: PHP4 SLES8 Apache 1.3 DB2 Connect > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:20:27 -0600 > > > > "Seader, Cameron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > yeah it will build just fine, but does anyone know of an alternative, so > > > > > that i can connect my php apps to a db2 database. > > > > > are there some other drivers i can use in php to
Re: DB2 versions WAS: PHP4 SLES8 Apache 1.3 DB2 Connect
Then it will probably not hurt (much) to install FP6 and see if your build works. On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 11:46, Seader, Cameron wrote: > wait for 8.2 N, we need this now. I'm determined to get this to work. > -Cameron > > -Original Message----- > From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 10:11 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: DB2 versions WAS: PHP4 SLES8 Apache 1.3 DB2 Connect > > > I think 'toleration' here is simply meant that it is tested and > supported to run in a 64-bit system. As to any development libraries > for your PHP build, you may need to wait out 8.2. > > On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 11:04, Seader, Cameron wrote: > > So if i apply this 64bit fixpack 6 to it, will that work and make it 64 bit? > > Seems a strange way to do it, but hey if it works then great. > > The fixpack 6 is found here: > > http://www-306.ibm.com/cgi-bin/db2www/data/db2/udb/winos2unix/support/download.d2w/report > > > > -Cameron > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 10:00 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: DB2 versions WAS: PHP4 SLES8 Apache 1.3 DB2 Connect > > > > > > I've not installed it so I don't know. Jim's comment is the most > > relevant, it is 64-bit tolerant. > > > > On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 10:51, Seader, Cameron wrote: > > > Well I did get the fixpack 6 downloaded and i took a peek inside the tar file > > > and it has s390x rpm's, so this is a good indicator that this is 64 bit. However > > > when you install these does it update the base packages to 64 bit, because i > > > don't see a base install for s390x. > > > -Cameron > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Seader, Cameron > > > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 07:52 > > > To: 'Linux on 390 Port' > > > Subject: RE: DB2 versions WAS: PHP4 SLES8 Apache 1.3 DB2 Connect > > > > > > > > > Can you pass me the URL. > > > Thanks > > > Cameron > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 07:47 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: DB2 versions WAS: PHP4 SLES8 Apache 1.3 DB2 Connect > > > > > > > > > Sorry, Cameron, it looks like it might be Fixpak 6. There is an entry > > > for Linux (zSeries 64-bit), but the site seems to be quite slow, > > > navigating it is painful... > > > > > > On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 08:33, Seader, Cameron wrote: > > > > Currently right now we have this version, and it is not 64-bit for db2 connect. > > > > > > > > DB21085I Instance "db2admin" uses "32" bits and DB2 code release "SQL08015" > > > > with level identifier "02060106". > > > > Informational tokens are "DB2 v8.1.0.48", "s040212", "MI00073", and FixPak "5". > > > > Product is installed at "/opt/IBM/db2/V8.1". > > > > > > > > -Cameron > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 07:30 > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: Re: DB2 versions WAS: PHP4 SLES8 Apache 1.3 DB2 Connect > > > > > > > > > > > > I posted yesterday... I think it's in Fixpak 5. Check out the > > > > downloads/fixpaks/apars page and verify it in the readme or fixpak > > > > notes. > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 08:26, Seader, Cameron wrote: > > > > > I have a Question about DB2 versions for z/Series 64-bit SLES 8, from this > > > > > document here it states no 64-bit. > > > > > <http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/db2/linux/validate/sles8.html> > > > > > If you look elsewhere at other sources it states that there is a version for > > > > > 64-bit z/Series Linux. > > > > > Here are the offerings: > > > > > Linux(TM) (S/390(R) and zSeries(R) 64-bit) Product list: > > > > > * DB2 Connect Application Server Edition, Version 8 > > > > > * DB2 Connect Enterprise Edition, Version 8 > > > > > * DB2 Connect Unlimited Edition, Version 8 > > > > > Does anyone know for sure if there is a 64-bit version of DB2 Connect that i > >
Re: SSH for z/VM
You never know when that LAN thingy is gonna go down. :) On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 13:51, McKown, John wrote: > Are there still a number of true 3270 users out there? -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: DB2 versions WAS: PHP4 SLES8 Apache 1.3 DB2 Conn ect
That's odd, I've uninstalled DB2 on Linux for zSeries before. They provide an uninstall script. On Fri, 2004-07-30 at 15:42, Marcy Cortes wrote: > It also says in the doc that you can't uninstall the product. > > Sounds like a call to the IBM support center might help, or your local folks > could probably find you an answer if you've got any of those. > > Marcy Cortes > > > "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If > you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, > you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message > or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, > please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this > message. Thank you for your cooperation." > > > -Original Message- > From: Post, Mark K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 1:37 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] DB2 versions WAS: PHP4 SLES8 Apache 1.3 DB2 Conn > ect > > I would presume that it would involve _un_installing the current version, > then doing the install with the FP5 media. > > > Mark Post > > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Seader, Cameron > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 2:30 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: DB2 versions WAS: PHP4 SLES8 Apache 1.3 DB2 Conn ect > > > -snip- > > So does anyone know how to install a refresh image at the FixPak 5 level? > TIA, Cameron Seader > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SLES9?
I am told that the download will be available on Thursday. On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 15:07, Kohrs, Steven wrote: > On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 14:55, James Melin wrote: > > I would think that if you have a customer contract with them you > > should be > > able to get SLES9 . I am going to look into that. > > > > Does anyone know if IBM is/has/will be soonly, certifying the WAS 5.1 > > environment on SLES9? > > > > > > WebSphere 5.1 doesn't work with the 2.6 kernel of SLES 9. I was told to > wait for WebSphere 6. We're hoping WAS 6 will be 64-bit enabled. > > http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/forums/dw_thread.jsp?forum=160&thread= > 53934&cat=5 > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SuSe Linux 8 - LPAR
How much memory is cached? On the zSeries that is essentially 'extra' memory that is overallocated. What is this LPAR intended to do? On Thu, 2004-08-12 at 12:58, Moloko Monyepao wrote: > One question that I currently have is how we interpret the "TOP" command in Linux > when running Linux on the Mainframe on an Lpar. E.g. If we allocate 1GB of memory to > that lpar, the TOP command show that memory allocated is 1GB and memory used is very > close to 1GB. There is only a few users logged in. I just wonder what will happen if > we let users start using the application. Is this memory ging to cater for these > users? > What tools do we use to keep stats if running Linux on an Lpar, not under VM? > > Thanx in advance > Moloko > > NOTICE: Please note that this eMail, and the contents thereof, is subject to the > standard arivia.kom email disclaimer which may be found at: > http://www.arivia.co.za/disclaimer.htm. If you cannot access the disclaimer through > the URL attached, and you wish to receive a copy thereof, please send an eMail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call (011) 233-0800. You will receive the disclaimer by return > email or fax. > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SuSe Linux 8 - LPAR
It may make sense to throw a few users at it to see how much more of the cache is released. It will be easier to gauge how much memory is actually needed, but at this point I must concur that it looks as if the LPAR is overallocated. On Fri, 2004-08-13 at 07:11, Moloko Monyepao wrote: > Yes the application is running but the no users are using it as yet > > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port on behalf of Adam Thornton > Sent: Fri 8/13/2004 6:51 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: > Subject: Re: SuSe Linux 8 - LPAR > > > > On Aug 12, 2004, at 6:46 PM, Moloko Monyepao wrote: > > > The lpar is intended to run a java based timesheet application using > > postgrel as its database. The following is the output from "FREE" > > > >> linux141:/ # free > > total used free sharedbuffers > > cached > > Mem:773612 768736 4876 0 161500 > > 430968 > > -/+ buffers/cache: 176268 597344 > > Swap: 300072 1508 298564 > > linux141:/ # > > > > So you're really using 176M. Nearly 600M is file buffers and cache. A > 256MB machine would probably do just as well, unless the application > takes a whole lot more memory when it's running hard. > > > Next is the output from "TOP" > > CPU states: 0.0% user, 8.5% system, 0.0% nice, 91.4% idle > > > Is your app even running at this point? This machine is basically just > sitting there. > > Adam > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > > NOTICE: Please note that this eMail, and the contents thereof, is subject to the > standard arivia.kom email disclaimer which may be found at: > http://www.arivia.co.za/disclaimer.htm. If you cannot access the disclaimer through > the URL attached, and you wish to receive a copy thereof, please send an eMail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call (011) 233-0800. You will receive the disclaimer by return > email or fax. > > ------ > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SuSe Linux 8 - LPAR
I, for one, am interested in how it looks after some users get running on it. If you can, please keep us informed. On Mon, 2004-08-16 at 07:35, Moloko Monyepao wrote: > Thanx a lot, I will get some users to use the system now. I didn't want to give the > users the system before I was sure of the "TOP" reading > > Moloko Monyepao > OS390/L390 System Programmer > arivia.kom > Tel : +27 11 203 6210 > > > -Original Message- > > From: Linux on 390 Port [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Thornton > > Sent: 13 August 2004 04:31 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: SuSe Linux 8 - LPAR > > > > On Fri, 2004-08-13 at 07:11, Moloko Monyepao wrote: > > > Yes the application is running but the no users are using it as yet > > > > Well, right now you have a whole lot of resources on the LPAR that are > > not being used. Get some usage pictures when the application is in > > heavy use, and that will tell you whether your LPAR is still too big. > > > > Adam > > > > -- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > NOTICE: Please note that this eMail, and the contents thereof, is subject to the > standard arivia.kom email disclaimer which may be found at: > http://www.arivia.co.za/disclaimer.htm. If you cannot access the disclaimer through > the URL attached, and you wish to receive a copy thereof, please send an eMail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call (011) 233-0800. You will receive the disclaimer by return > email or fax. > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Linux390 LPAR - CPU info
What does the value tell you based on your current program? Part of the problem will be that the value will change depending upon what else might be running on the mainframe at the time the measurement that populates the value is run. On Tue, 2004-08-24 at 04:42, Taraka Srinivas Kumar wrote: > Hi, > > >>Is there some reason what that number is important to you? I've > been doing > >>working with Linux/390 for 4 years now, and I've never much cared. > >>Depending on what processor type (G5, G6, z990, etc.), it is > somewhere in > >>the range of 200MHz to 700Mhz, if all you're interested in is clock > speed. > >>IBM publishes MSU ratings for their various processor types, if > you're > >>interested in that. > > In this case, i am having an application which takes CPU speed from > /proc/cpuinfo and displays it on the screen. This application has been > developed on Intel Linux where it is very easy to get the CPU speed in > MHz. Now, i am trying to port the same application to Linux on > zSeries. As you know, /proc/cpuinfo remains to be one of the major > porting issues for porting applications to Linux on mainframe (Since > the format has changed). > > I am trying to find out other ways of getting this particular MIPS > information with in Linux so that my application can access the same > and print it on the screen. > > Can further investigation into VMSTAT, TOP outputs help in getting the > CPU speed information ? > > All inputs and ideas are welcome. > > Regards, > Srinivas. > > > > "Post, Mark K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent by: Linux on 390 Port > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > 08/23/04 11:26 PM > Please respond to > Linux on 390 Port > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >cc > > Subject > Re: Linux390 LPAR > - CPU info > > > > > Is there some reason what that number is important to you? I've been > doing > working with Linux/390 for 4 years now, and I've never much cared. > Depending on what processor type (G5, G6, z990, etc.), it is somewhere > in > the range of 200MHz to 700Mhz, if all you're interested in is clock > speed. > IBM publishes MSU ratings for their various processor types, if you're > interested in that. > > > Mark Post > > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Taraka > Srinivas Kumar > Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 9:14 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Linux390 LPAR - CPU info > > > > Hello, > > We have SuSE 8.1 for zSeries 31 bit installed in an LPAR. Am trying to > get > the CPU speed information from Linux. > I have verified /proc/cpuinfo file to get the CPU speed. But the > format has > been changed for Linux on zSeries as compared to Linux on Intel. > Is there any way to get the CPU speed information on Linux for zSeries > ? > > > Regards, > Srinivas. > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 > or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > ForwardSourceID:NTC212 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: DHCP Server on zLinux
I had a customer that had it running with an OSA Express card and SLES 8. We had to get a patch for the dhcp server. Unfortunately I no longer have the patch and I don't think the site is using the dhcp server anymore. On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 08:33, Max wrote: > Does anybody tried to install and configure a DHCP > server on zLinux? > I'm trying to configure it but seems systems is not > working property... > Version is: SuSE SLES 8 64bit with SP3 > > > > > > > ___ > Yahoo! Companion - Scarica gratis la toolbar di Ricerca di Yahoo! > http://companion.yahoo.it > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: DHCP Server on zLinux
Unfortunately I do not know the name of the patch, but I think it came from IBM. It may have been something specific to support the OSA Express. I think it also required a certain hardware microcode level and a certain qdio driver level. You can try search the archive of this list, there may have been some discussion of it here. On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 09:26, Max wrote: > Do you know the name of the patch?? Is it included on > SP3? > > > > --- Rich Smrcina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > > I had a customer that had it running with an OSA > > Express card and SLES > > 8. We had to get a patch for the dhcp server. > > Unfortunately I no > > longer have the patch and I don't think the site is > > using the dhcp > > server anymore. > > > > On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 08:33, Max wrote: > > > Does anybody tried to install and configure a DHCP > > > server on zLinux? > > > I'm trying to configure it but seems systems is > > not > > > working property... > > > Version is: SuSE SLES 8 64bit with SP3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Yahoo! Companion - Scarica gratis la toolbar di > > Ricerca di Yahoo! > > > http://companion.yahoo.it > > > > > > > > > ------ > > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access > > instructions, > > > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the > > message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > -- > > Rich Smrcina > > illustro Systems International, LLC > > --- See The Light--- > > Visit www.illustro.com to experience: > > z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your > > Mainframe > > z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your > > Mainframe > > > > Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 > > > > Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org > > WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 > > > > > -- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access > > instructions, > > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the > > message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > > > > > > > ___ > Yahoo! Companion - Scarica gratis la toolbar di Ricerca di Yahoo! > http://companion.yahoo.it > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Recycling servers ?
Talk to some folks used to running Linux server farms and they will pride themselves on how long their Linux machines stay up without the need for a therapeutic reboot. We're talking uptimes measured in years. You may need to find the right synergy between the application and the kernel release, but servers that need a periodic reboot may be suffering from a bug in one or the other. On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 12:54, Levy, Alan wrote: > > I currently have a few linux servers running in production (ZVM 4.4) > with heavy usage. Our IFL is only IPL'd once every few months. Would it > be advisable to recycle the whole machine (and all linux servers running > under VM) more than that ? I was told that linux servers have to be > rebooted periodically to clear out buffers, cache, storage, etc. > > > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: DHCP Server on zLinux
Thanks for that info Inho and Mark. It will be helpful, if it comes up again. On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 02:11, Ihno Krumreich wrote: > On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 09:05:08AM -0500, Rich Smrcina wrote: > > I had a customer that had it running with an OSA Express card and SLES > > 8. We had to get a patch for the dhcp server. Unfortunately I no > > longer have the patch and I don't think the site is using the dhcp > > server anymore. > > > > The patch is not needed if the fake_ll option is used. > See page 237 in "Device Driver and installation Commands July 25, 2003" > > > > On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 08:33, Max wrote: > > > Does anybody tried to install and configure a DHCP > > > server on zLinux? > > > I'm trying to configure it but seems systems is not > > > working property... > > > Version is: SuSE SLES 8 64bit with SP3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Yahoo! Companion - Scarica gratis la toolbar di Ricerca di Yahoo! > > > http://companion.yahoo.it > > > > > > -- > > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > -- > > Rich Smrcina > > illustro Systems International, LLC > > --- See The Light--- > > Visit www.illustro.com to experience: > > z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe > > z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe > > > > Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 > > > > Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org > > WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 > > > > -- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003
Are you using an OSA2 on the MP2000? If so, do you have an IP Address in your OAT? It must match the IP Address that you are trying to use in Linux. On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 14:00, Noll, Ralph wrote: > Ipl'ing Debian from tape on the mp2003 > > When I setup the ip address other than 10.37.1.21 > It will not work.. Can't ping the gateway of 10.37.1.1 > > > > I setup the ip to 10.37.1.21 works fine > > Any idea of where in the mp2003 that the problem could be.. > Been working for 2 days on this... > Anyone else run into this.. Or have you all junked your > Mp2003... > > > Thanks > > Ralph > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003
Or just use the IP address that's on the card already (unless there a problem with it). Yes, you can install VSE under VM and still control the card from VSE (that's how I did it). On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 21:44, Noll, Ralph wrote: > I now remember.. Found an old oat table in ICCF... > > Configuring it this way is about the dumbest thing I can remember.. > Going to be a pain in the rear > Going to have to install VSE just to change ip of the osa card.. > > Can I install vse under vm to real dasd and then ipl the mp2000 from > that??? > > Thanks for all help > > Ralph > > > > -Original Message- > From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 2:14 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003 > > Are you using an OSA2 on the MP2000? If so, do you have an IP Address > in your OAT? It must match the IP Address that you are trying to use in > Linux. > > On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 14:00, Noll, Ralph wrote: > > Ipl'ing Debian from tape on the mp2003 > > > > When I setup the ip address other than 10.37.1.21 It will not work.. > > > Can't ping the gateway of 10.37.1.1 > > > > > > > > I setup the ip to 10.37.1.21 works fine > > > > Any idea of where in the mp2003 that the problem could be.. > > Been working for 2 days on this... > > Anyone else run into this.. Or have you all junked your Mp2003... > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Ralph > > > > ------ > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 > or visit > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- > Rich Smrcina > illustro Systems International, LLC > --- See The Light--- > Visit www.illustro.com to experience: > z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe > z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe > > Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 > > Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org > WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International rsmrcina at illustro.com Catch the WAVV! Update your zSeries skills in 4 days. WAVV 2005 in Colorado Springs, CO May 20-24, 2005 For details see http://www.wavv.org -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003
That sounds like the part that is configuring VTAM and CICS for local terminal support. You'll need a local terminal for telnet access, so that you can get in to ICCF to use OSA/SF. On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 08:23, Noll, Ralph wrote: > No... Just integrated console > > Am in the process of installing and it wants > At least 1 local 3270 term. > Don't have one... What can I enter to bypass?? > > Ralph > > > -Original Message- > > From: Ward, Garry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 7:55 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003 > > > > Ok; all you need for VSE is going to be the minimum > > DOSRES/SYSWK1 install. > > Do you have access to 3270s for the console and single > > non-sna term for CICS/ICCF? > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Behalf Of Noll, Ralph > > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 8:51 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003 > > > > > > Different machine.. Linux only > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Ward, Garry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 7:28 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003 > > > > > > If you have VM already in place, doesn't it have tools to > > manage the > > > OSA/OSA2? > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Behalf Of Noll, Ralph > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 10:45 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003 > > > > > > > > > I now remember.. Found an old oat table in ICCF... > > > > > > Configuring it this way is about the dumbest thing I can remember.. > > > Going to be a pain in the rear > > > Going to have to install VSE just to change ip of the osa card.. > > > > > > Can I install vse under vm to real dasd and then ipl the > > mp2000 from > > > that??? > > > > > > Thanks for all help > > > > > > Ralph > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 2:14 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003 > > > > > > Are you using an OSA2 on the MP2000? If so, do you have an > > IP Address > > > in your OAT? It must match the IP Address that you are > > trying to use > > > in Linux. > > > > > > On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 14:00, Noll, Ralph wrote: > > > > Ipl'ing Debian from tape on the mp2003 > > > > > > > > When I setup the ip address other than 10.37.1.21 It will > > > not work.. > > > > > > > Can't ping the gateway of 10.37.1.1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I setup the ip to 10.37.1.21 works fine > > > > > > > > Any idea of where in the mp2003 that the problem could be.. > > > > Been working for 2 days on this... > > > > Anyone else run into this.. Or have you all junked your Mp2003... > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Ralph > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access > > > instructions, send > > > > email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 > > > or visit > > > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > -- > > > Rich Smrcina > > > illustro Systems International, LLC > > > --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to > > > experience: > > > z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe > > > z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe > > > > > > Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 > > > > > > Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org > > > WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 > > > > > > > > -- > > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access &g
Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003
The MP3K can do that, I wasn't aware that the MP2K could. In either event the IOCP would need to be set up to use the emulated channel and devices. On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 08:39, Ward, Garry wrote: > memory is failing; there was a way to attach the PC service element to > the MP2000's as emulated terminals -- remember doing that several years > ago but I can't remember how it worked. It wasn't the same as IC, used > an OS/2 terminal emulation. I can't remember how. > > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Noll, Ralph > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 9:23 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003 > > > No... Just integrated console > > Am in the process of installing and it wants > At least 1 local 3270 term. > Don't have one... What can I enter to bypass?? > > Ralph > > > -Original Message- > > From: Ward, Garry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 7:55 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003 > > > > Ok; all you need for VSE is going to be the minimum > > DOSRES/SYSWK1 install. > > Do you have access to 3270s for the console and single > > non-sna term for CICS/ICCF? > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Behalf Of Noll, Ralph > > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 8:51 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003 > > > > > > Different machine.. Linux only > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Ward, Garry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 7:28 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003 > > > > > > If you have VM already in place, doesn't it have tools to > > manage the > > > OSA/OSA2? > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Behalf Of Noll, Ralph > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 10:45 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003 > > > > > > > > > I now remember.. Found an old oat table in ICCF... > > > > > > Configuring it this way is about the dumbest thing I can remember.. > > > Going to be a pain in the rear > > > Going to have to install VSE just to change ip of the osa card.. > > > > > > Can I install vse under vm to real dasd and then ipl the > > mp2000 from > > > that??? > > > > > > Thanks for all help > > > > > > Ralph > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 2:14 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003 > > > > > > Are you using an OSA2 on the MP2000? If so, do you have an > > IP Address > > > in your OAT? It must match the IP Address that you are > > trying to use > > > in Linux. > > > > > > On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 14:00, Noll, Ralph wrote: > > > > Ipl'ing Debian from tape on the mp2003 > > > > > > > > When I setup the ip address other than 10.37.1.21 It will > > > not work.. > > > > > > > Can't ping the gateway of 10.37.1.1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I setup the ip to 10.37.1.21 works fine > > > > > > > > Any idea of where in the mp2003 that the problem could be.. > > > > Been working for 2 days on this... > > > > Anyone else run into this.. Or have you all junked your Mp2003... > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Ralph > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access > > > instructions, send > > > > email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 > > > or visit > > > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > -- > > > Rich Smrcina > > > illustro Systems International, LLC > > > --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to > > > exper
Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003
You'll some way to get jobs to and from the system, so that the card can be configured. The configuration member is in a VSE library and the jobs to start OSA/SF and communicate with the card are in ICCF. If you have a tape drive on the MP2K, you can get jobs to and from it via POWER offload (a real kludge and a time waster, but doable). On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 08:29, Noll, Ralph wrote: > How do I get that??? > > > -Original Message----- > > From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 8:31 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003 > > > > That sounds like the part that is configuring VTAM and CICS > > for local terminal support. You'll need a local terminal for > > telnet access, so that you can get in to ICCF to use OSA/SF. > > > > On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 08:23, Noll, Ralph wrote: > > > No... Just integrated console > > > > > > Am in the process of installing and it wants At least 1 local 3270 > > > term. > > > Don't have one... What can I enter to bypass?? > > > > > > Ralph > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Ward, Garry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 7:55 AM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003 > > > > > > > > Ok; all you need for VSE is going to be the minimum > > > > DOSRES/SYSWK1 install. > > > > Do you have access to 3270s for the console and single > > non-sna term > > > > for CICS/ICCF? > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Behalf Of Noll, Ralph > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 8:51 AM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003 > > > > > > > > > > > > Different machine.. Linux only > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > From: Ward, Garry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 7:28 AM > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003 > > > > > > > > > > If you have VM already in place, doesn't it have tools to > > > > manage the > > > > > OSA/OSA2? > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Behalf Of Noll, Ralph > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 10:45 PM > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I now remember.. Found an old oat table in ICCF... > > > > > > > > > > Configuring it this way is about the dumbest thing I > > can remember.. > > > > > Going to be a pain in the rear > > > > > Going to have to install VSE just to change ip of the osa card.. > > > > > > > > > > Can I install vse under vm to real dasd and then ipl the > > > > mp2000 from > > > > > that??? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for all help > > > > > > > > > > Ralph > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 2:14 PM > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003 > > > > > > > > > > Are you using an OSA2 on the MP2000? If so, do you have an > > > > IP Address > > > > > in your OAT? It must match the IP Address that you are > > > > trying to use > > > > > in Linux. > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 14:00, Noll, Ralph wrote: > > > > > > Ipl'ing Debian from tape on the mp2003 > > > > > > > > > > > > When I setup the ip address other than 10.37.1.21 It will > > > > > not work.. > > > > > > > > > > > Can't ping the gateway of 10.37.1.1 > > &
Re: SAS - Is linux/390 an option?
There was a post last July where a development version of SAS V9 for Linux for zSeries was being used. There doesn't seem to be anything much newer that is relevant. On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 10:06, Smith, Ann (ISD, IT) wrote: > Our company is looking at obtaining servers for a new central SAS > environment (replacing aging and scattered older servers). > Can SAS run under linux on the mainframe and if so does it perform well? > Our local SAS rep says there is no SAS product for linux/390 but I had > thought some people are in fact running SAS under linux on the mainframe. > > > This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of > addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged > information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, > disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If > you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender > immediately by return email and delete this communication and destroy all copies. > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003
What does 'ifconfig' show? On Fri, 2004-09-10 at 13:00, Noll, Ralph wrote: > Ok.. I want to thank all for the help.. > Just 1 more question... > > I have changed the ip of the osa card to 0.0.0.0 > That way it will allow any ip address that I apply to linux > > Here is what I CAN'T do .. Which may not me a big deal > > Can't ping itseld (192.168.1.13) > And can't ping local host (127.0.0.1) > > Any ideas.. The developer is wondering why this won't work??? > Is there other underlying problems > > > Thanks again > > Ralph > > > -Original Message- > > From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 8:51 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003 > > > > You'll some way to get jobs to and from the system, so that > > the card can be configured. The configuration member is in a > > VSE library and the jobs to start OSA/SF and communicate with > > the card are in ICCF. > > > > If you have a tape drive on the MP2K, you can get jobs to and > > from it via POWER offload (a real kludge and a time waster, > > but doable). > > > > On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 08:29, Noll, Ralph wrote: > > > How do I get that??? > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 8:31 AM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003 > > > > > > > > That sounds like the part that is configuring VTAM and CICS for > > > > local terminal support. You'll need a local terminal for telnet > > > > access, so that you can get in to ICCF to use OSA/SF. > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2004-09-09 at 08:23, Noll, Ralph wrote: > > > > > No... Just integrated console > > > > > > > > > > Am in the process of installing and it wants At least 1 > > local 3270 > > > > > term. > > > > > Don't have one... What can I enter to bypass?? > > > > > > > > > > Ralph > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > > From: Ward, Garry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 7:55 AM > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Subject: Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003 > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok; all you need for VSE is going to be the minimum > > > > > > DOSRES/SYSWK1 install. > > > > > > Do you have access to 3270s for the console and single > > > > non-sna term > > > > > > for CICS/ICCF? > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Behalf Of Noll, Ralph > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 8:51 AM > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Subject: Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Different machine.. Linux only > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > > > From: Ward, Garry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 7:28 AM > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have VM already in place, doesn't it have tools to > > > > > > manage the > > > > > > > OSA/OSA2? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > > > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > Behalf Of Noll, Ralph > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 10:45 PM > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Have a serious problem with mp2003 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I now remember.. Found an old oat table in ICCF... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Configuring it this way is about the dumbest thing I > > &g
Re: Weblogic 8.1
That may be a good starting point, but what you eventually end up with will depend upon the application(s) that will run within the server. Linux, application server and java heap size all play into the size. The more applications or application servers, the larger the machine may have to be. On Fri, 2004-09-10 at 15:50, Marcy Cortes wrote: > I have a couple of servers to create for Weblogic 8.1. How much virtual > storage do you all give them? Just a starting point is good - doc says > 512M. > > > Marcy Cortes > > "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. > If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the > addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on > this message or any information herein. If you have received this > message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail > and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation." > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: linux z800
If you can not IPL Linux after installing it, are you getting any messages that may help us to debug the problem for you? If so, please send the messages. On Fri, 2004-09-10 at 15:53, David Moreira wrote: > I have one vm installed in one cpu-zseries, and installed linux below of > exactly I do not obtain to give ipl in the same one as I would make? > moreira--tjgo > > > > > - > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: VM Shutdown
z/VM 4.3 and higher have a feature called Signal Shutdown, which will send a Linux guest a shutdown signal when a command is issued or when z/VM itself is shutdown. For SLES8, you need at least Service Pack 2 (I think). Changes to /etc/inittab are also required. On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 08:17, Bob wrote: > What is the easiest way to setup the Linux guests so that when VM > shutsdown, the Linux guests under VM all shutdown cleanly also? > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: VM Shutdown
I get the desired effect and the nice message without the vmpoff as well. On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 16:12, Malcolm Beattie wrote: > Post, Mark K writes: > > Depending on what version of z/VM and Linux you're running, updating > > /etc/inittab to have something like this: > > # What to do at the "Three Finger Salute". > > ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t5 -r now > > Change that "-r" (meaning "reboot") into "-h" (meaning "halt") > so that the SIGNAL SHUTDOWN magic described elsewhere in this > thread behaves as expected. For cleanliness, it's also good to > include "vmpoff=LOGOFF" into the kernel parmline so that when the > guest finishes shutting down and does a "halt -p" (a "power-off" > halt), the kernel will do a "CP LOGOFF". This logs the guest off; > CP then knows that the guest has finished its signal shutdown > processing cleanly and will log a nice message to say so. > > [The vmpoff assumes that your distribution uses a "halt -p" in its > shutdown scripts, as SLES does. If your distribution ends up doing > a "halt" without the -p then the relevant parmline addition would > be "vmhalt=LOGOFF". I usually add both...belt and braces.] > > --Malcolm > > -- > Malcolm Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Linux Technical Consultant > IBM EMEA Enterprise Server Group... > ...from home, speaking only for myself > > ---------- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: z/VM LPAR Configuration Question
Yes, define it as Linux Only. This way the VM LPAR will use the IFL, which will also be used by any Linux environments that are running under z/VM. On Sun, 2004-10-24 at 09:53, Peter E. Abresch Jr. - at Pepco wrote: > We are running 2 SuSE Linux 8.1 SP03 in native LPARs using a new IFL. On > the HMC, the Linux LPAR profiles specify 4LINUX only! under the general > tab. We then select 4Not dedicated integrated facility for Linux! to allow > the two Linux LPARs to share the IFL. > > We are now getting ready to install z/VM V5.1. z/VM is new to us. We > defined a new LPAR just for z/VM. Our intention is to get z/VM up and > running and then migrate the two native Linux LPARs to z/VM guests. > > What mode do I select for the VM LPAR profile under the general tab on the > HMC? My choices are: > > ESA/390 > ESA/390 TPF > Coupling Facility > Linux Only > > There is no VM option. If I specify ESA/390, I do not have an option under > the processor tab to allow the VM LPAR to share the IFL. This option only > appears when I select 4Linux only!. We do not have excess capacity on the > central processors as the z/OS systems are fully utilizing them. Do I > define the VM LPAR as Linux only? > > Thanks for any insight. > > Peter > > > > > > > This Email message and any attachment may contain information that is > proprietary, legally privileged, confidential and/or subject to copyright > belonging to Pepco Holdings, Inc. or its affiliates ("PHI"). This Email is > intended solely for the use of the person(s) to which it is addressed. If > you are not an intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for > delivery of this Email to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby > notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this Email is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please > immediately notify the sender and permanently delete this Email and any > copies. PHI policies expressly prohibit employees from making defamatory > or offensive statements and infringing any copyright or any other legal > right by Email communication. PHI will not accept any liability in respect > of such communications. -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Running servers on z/VM vs on Linux
If you need to have that feature on z/VM, then you would run it there. FTP can be handy, MPROUTE would be used if your network uses dynamic routing protocols. The features aren't really shared with Linux guests, Linux has it's own. They are uses on z/VM just as if it were any other machine on the network. On Tue, 2004-11-23 at 19:09, Ranga Nathan wrote: > I notice that z/VM has a number of TCP/IP services - SMTP, FTP, ROUTED, > DNS . whole swag of them. > > Would one bring up these servers and share it among the guests? Or is it > preferable to run them on the Linux guests? > > __ > Ranga Nathan / CSG > Systems Programmer - Specialist; Technical Services; > BAX Global Inc. Irvine-California > Tel: 714-442-7591 Fax: 714-442-2840 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Linux on Mainframes
To add to this... obviously the faster hardware that you have the better. A whole pile of memory doesn't hurt either. I have a customer that just upgraded from a MP3K IFL (~120 MIPS) to a z890 IFL (~350 MIPS) and their WebSphere startup time fell from 10-15 minutes to 2-3 minutes. On Thu, 2004-11-25 at 12:20, Post, Mark K wrote: > The minimum would be a G2 machine. The real requirement is that the system > has to be at a microcode level that contains the "Halfword Immediate and > Relative Branch Feature." Performance on older machines is going to be > bordering on abominable, particularly if they don't have an IEEE floating > point unit, as Carsten pointed out. > > > Mark Post > > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anurag > Jaiswal > Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 4:29 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Linux on Mainframes > > > Hi, > Can someone tell me if there are any kinds of restriction with respect to > Mainframe machines as to which generation machines can be used to install > Linux? > > Thanks & Regards, > Anurag Jaiswal > Infosys Technologies Limited > Bangalore > > > > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: VIPA and hot standby
Perhaps the right combination of special priviledge class and the hcp module would help. Marcy Cortes wrote: A heartbeat-stonith.rpm comes with SLES 8. Never tried it and I would guess it can't do a FORCE, but here's the info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sp3rpms]# rpm -qip heartbeat-stonith.rpm Name: heartbeat-stonithRelocations: (not relocateable) Version : 1.0.4 Vendor: SuSE Linux AG, Nuernberg, Germany Release : 13Build Date: Mon Oct 27 20:03:05 2003 Install date: (not installed) Build Host: s390z07.suse.de Group : Productivity/Clustering/HASource RPM: heartbeat-1.0.4-13.src.rpm Size: 2538713 License: GPL Packager: http://www.suse.de/feedback URL : http://linux-ha.org/ Summary : Provides an interface to Shoot The Other Node In The Head Description : The STONITH module (a.k.a. STOMITH) provides an extensible interface for remotely powering down a node in the cluster. The idea is quite simple: When the software running on one machine wants to make sure another machine in the cluster is not using a resource, pull the plug on the other machine. It's simple and reliable, albeit admittedly brutal. Authors: Alan Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Marcy Cortes "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation." -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 10:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] VIPA and hot standby On Tuesday, 12/07/2004 at 07:02 EST, Mark Post <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As Alan mentioned, VIPA won't accomplish this. But, there are Open Source packages that will allow you to set up a High Availability (HA) cluster with your Linux/390 guests. Tivoli Systems Automation will certainly do the job, but at a much, much higher cost. Do the open source solutions deal with STOMITH? SAfLi will perform FORCE or will use LPAR management APIs to kill off the offending machine. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Release of CICS Transaction Server for zLinux
Greg, The best that we have at this point is a statement of direction. Rumor is that it should hit the street sometime next year. Greg Evans wrote: Is it the case that IBM will be coming out with a version of CICS that will run on SUSe Linux ? I have searched the web, however I have only gotten hits for CICS Transaction Gateway. If you know otherwise please share that information. Thanks, Greg Evans -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: VMware vs. VM
This is highly dependent upon the number of application servers and the heap sizes of those application servers. Like Barton said, determine if you are swapping. If during normal processing you are not swapping or if the free command indicates that you have a large amount free (or allocated to buffers) you can adjust the amount of storage accordingly. Do this, run for a while, measure again and resize if necessary. Make sure that whoever administers Websphere tells you if they add new application servers, since they take up more memory and your reduced size may not be sufficient. Seader, Cameron wrote: Does anyone have any pointers on how much real memory and swap should be allocated to a linux guest for Websphere applications. We are running 500 mb real memory and about 1.1GB of swap. -Cameron -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard Troth Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 11:59 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: VMware vs. VM Hi, Doug, ... Wow! You've gotten some great responses already. Clearly, you need to think about your workload before anything else. You don't want to say "z/VM is better" and then throw a virus-scanning e-mail service on it and watch the thing tank because of CPU load. * the INTeL (and copycat) chip doesn't virtualize itself as well as the zSeries processor, so you get what I call higher "insertion loss", more of a hit relative to native performance when running PC software in a virtual machine * z/VM scales up better than VMware (probably related to the first point) * VMware controls are GUI oriented (but they do now have some early automation tools) * z/VM is HIGHLY automatable, configurable, and customizable but is (3270 and EBCDIC) really foreign to Windows people Cameron's report will be interesting, if they can share that. And what Adam and others have said is right on. Let me also play the opportunist and mention FreeVM-L. It is a LISTSERV discussion list for talking about things like this. Originally, the "free" part of the name was to indicate the goal of having an open standard for describing virtual machines, and that's still the central point of the list. But questions like yours are also the kind of thing we want to deal with there. Subscribe at your nearest LISTSERV. -- R; -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Another question..
'Mapping' a drive is netbios/smb type of function. The equivalent in Linux is smbmount (or mount -t smb), if you have the samba-client stuff installed. But to physically attach a Shark to an Intel system would require a SCSI interface on the Intel machine, the proper drivers for Linux to access the Shark and SCSI ports on the Shark. Noll, Ralph wrote: Trying to get my quota of questions for this year 2004 (ha..ha) How do I go about attaching shark ess 2105-800 storage to a Linux x86.. Windoz I can map a drive How do I do the same thing in linux??? Thanks a bunch for you all's help this year and past years Ralph -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Another question..
Something that has direct access to the Shark and is serving out the shares will be the 'target' of the mount command. I don't have the exact syntax handy, but it would be something like: mount -t smb ipaddress/sharename -o username=userid password=password the smbmount man page should have more information. Noll, Ralph wrote: Yea.. I am looking for the smb mount NOT the scsi.. So how do I carv out 30...40...20gb from a shark and mount With mount -t. Ralph -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Another question..
If you want Linux on x86 to be the 'server' it will need to be the one serving the shares (and has direct access to the shark with a SCSI card). If you want Linux on x86 to be able to mount a share on a Windows machine that has direct access to the shark, you would use the mount command and need to provide the appropriate credentials to 'sign on' to the Windows server. I do not know the format of the mount command off hand. It should be well documented on the Samba web site. David Boyes sent out this link to the Samba3 HOW-TO Collection earlier this summer: http://samba.org/samba/docs Noll, Ralph wrote: Yea that something. How do I make linux on x86 do that??? Thanks Ralph -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: db2 connect
Unfortunately, I don't have a solid answer for you. I'm sure you did the math, based on 40 users at 2%, 1300 users would be ~65%. That's a big chunk. It is probably a fair bet that the usage would be spread out though and 65% is a maximum. The bonus is that you can throttle the performance as needed with the share setting if they start impacting other work. Little, Chris wrote: Is there any information available in the ether about DB2 Connect resource usage? Right now we have about 40 users connecting to DB2 on z/OS through DB2 Connect on a Linux guest with 256M storage and uses 2% of one IFL on a z900. The powers that be, in their infinite wisdom, have decided to forego a staged rollout and, instead, dump 1300 users at once onto DB2 Connect. I'm desperately afeared of what will happen. +--+ | Chris Little OKDHS Platform Services | | IS Operating Systems Specialist IV | | email [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | work (405)522-1306 cell (405)229-7822 | +--+ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina illustro Systems International, LLC --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to experience: z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: May get VM to manage Linux! Need cost information
If you have a zSeries processor, z/VM Version 5 starts at $22.5K per engine. After three engines the price comes down (on a per engine basis). IFL or standard CP, the price for VM is all the same. Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Main: (866)569-7378 Cell: (414)491-6001 Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 4:04 pm Subject: May get VM to manage Linux! Need cost information > Will someone on this list please give me a "ballpark" cost for VM > in an IFL > to manage Linux for our system. Our information is that the price > for VM is > different if it is just run in an IFL and only manage Linux. My > managerneeds it for a budget meeting he was told about for the > first time when they > called to tell him he was late for the meeting. > > I will talk to my sales rep about taking vacation at the most > inopportunetime. > > Doug > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX- > 390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Problems adding new DASD devices
These messages are typical of adding an unformatted disk to Linux. Use the dasdfmt/fdasd command and then make the filesystem of your choice. Aristarc Diez Redorta wrote: We're trying to add new dasd devices to our Linux and obtain the following messages: dasd(eckd): /dev/dasdo ( 94: 56),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: (4kB blks): 7211520kB at 48kB/trk linux disk layout <6>dasd(eckd): /dev/dasdm ( 94: 48),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: (4kB blks): 7211520kB at 48kB/trk compatible disk layout <6>dasd(eckd): /dev/dasdn ( 94: 52),[EMAIL PROTECTED]: (4kB blks): 7211520kB at 48kB/trk compatible disk layout ... > ... big snip ... Does anyone know what we're having wrong? Thanks in advance. Aris. -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Main: (866)569-7378 Cell: (414)491-6001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: vswitch question
Betsie, Check out DETACH VSWITCH (in the 5.1 CP Commands and Reference). Betsie Spann wrote: Hi, Anyone know of a way to delete a VSWITCH without IPLing? Betsie -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Main: (866)569-7378 Cell: (414)491-6001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SLES8 SIGSEGV JVM
Gianfranco, That looks like the original SLES8 kernel. You might want to verify with WAS support whether 5.1 requires one of the SLES8 service packs. I don't know off hand the web site, but it might be in the archive. Gianfranco Ciotti wrote: Hi all, I have a problem with my SLES8 (kernel 2.4.19-3suse-SMP) and JVM or WAS 5.1: randomly time JVM crash. Reading the javacore file I can see that linux send a SIGSEGV signal (kill -11) to JVM and the libraries which generate the problem seems to be /lib/libc.so.6. Any sugestions? thanks a lot, -- Gianfranco -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Main: (866)569-7378 Cell: (414)491-6001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: VSWITCH and HIPERSOCKETS
You could define enough Hipersocket devices so that each Linux machine that needs a connection to z/OS can have it's own. (the preferred way, no extra routing hop required) You could also define a hipersocket address set to the second IP stack and also to the VSwitch. But then your VM IP stack is working as a router, which is counter-productive to one of the reasons for the VSwitch (but I would guess that this is temporary). Kinnear, Mike wrote: I've researched the archives and redbooks. I think I've come across every combination of implementation except the one I'm trying to do. We have a number of VSWITCH LINUX instances running under one z/VM LPAR. We have a production VM TCP/IP stack that we use for 'older' VCTC connections until we get them switched over to VSWITCH. I would like to communicate from the LINUX instances on the VSWITCH with an z/OS LPAR using HIPERSOCKETS. I don't want to 'experiment' with the production TCP/IP stack, so I am configuring a second stack to do the HIPERSOCKETS links. What I've tried complains that a virtual LAN is not present, but if I'm reading the guides correctly, I shouldn't need one. How do I get the second stack to be a HIPERSOCKETS pipe for the VSWITCH network? Any help is greatly appreciated. Mike Kinnear Systems Programmer GuideOne Insurance -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Main: (866)569-7378 Cell: (414)491-6001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: OSA getting me up to speed
Each guest can get it's own set of addresses on the OSA. It is certainly not uncommon. Another approach is to set up the VSwitch on z/VM 4.4 or 5.1 and use two OSA Express cards for failover. Each guest will connect to the VSwitch, which will then handle the network traffic to the 'real' network. This is not like the Guest LAN, which required a router. The guests on the Vswitch sit on the same subnet. Tom Duerbusch wrote: We are looking at new hardware, and most likely it will include OSA adapter(s). Now, before I spec things out wrong, I would like to understand how they are used and their limitations. Currently, we have IBM 3172(s). 1 Ethernet card = 1 IP address. In this type of environment, I dedicate the Ethernet card to VM's TCP/IP and have it act as a router to my 9 VSE and 17 Linux images, each having their own IP address. My understanding is the OSA card has a dual port card. Can both ports be used for standard, generic Ethernet IP stuff? Not talking SNA over IP or anything else, just standard IP (LPR, TN3270, FTP, Database, Web, etc). Each card has lots of IP addresses associated with them. That translates to bunches of CUA (mainframe addresses). I could see, giving each of the guests their own address, directly to the card, instead of being routed through VM's stack. Is that normal? Or is that mostly for "special" guests, such as those that may operate outside of the firewall? If two images need to talk to each other, the traffic would end up going out on the wire...right? Doesn't seem to be a "performance" option. I could also see connecting the images, with Guest LAN support (not all my VSE images support Guest LANs), which would solve the 'going out on the wire' problem' for those that can use it. Is the recomendation to mix and match? Route everything though a central stack for routing? Give each image their own access? Other? Just what does all of you that use OSA cards do with all those IP addresses? Is the OSA cards, sharable across LPARs? What I'm looking for is IFL and S390 LPARs. From the mainframe side, I'm pushing for redundent access. If the network doesn't support it, it's not my area, but it will be upgraded in time. Points will also be given for items (good or bad) concerning redundency. There are 2 gb OSA 2 Express cards. If cost isn't an issue, I don't see why we wouldn't go with the best. But in other shops, is the network side ready for 2 gb Ethernet? I have all these manuals, Redbooks and other documentation. They tell me all sorts of things (some are z/OS only, I think), but I'm having a hard time understanding how they work in the real world (VM, VSE and Linux). Thanks Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Main: (866)569-7378 Cell: (414)491-6001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: z/VM commands to Linux guests?
Rexec comes to mind, but there are security issues related to it's use. There are open source packages that can be configured fairly easily to do this. Big Brother or it's open source follow on 'Hobbit' is my personal favorite. Nagios is another one. The both provide easy to read web pages to check on the status of things, also pager and email notification is available. Peter E. Abresch Jr. - at Pepco wrote: We are writing a REXX exec to run under z/VM to verify the status of our Linux guests. The purpose of this script is to provide an easy mechanism for our operators to verify the health of the Linux guests. Is there a mechanism from z/VM to issue Linux commands to a Linux guest and capturing the output? I know we can go from Linux and issue z/VM commands. Thanks. Peter -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Main: (866)569-7378 Cell: (414)491-6001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Linux performance items
I'll second that motion. Java programmers need to make sure that they use efficient coding in order to run in a shared environment. Tom Shilson wrote: Linux on 390 Port wrote on 02/01/2005 01:16:25 PM: Just weighing the decisionmoney for Oracle performance tools, vs money for Linux performance tools.. If money was no object, I would get the VM performance, Linux performance, TCP/IP performance, Oracle performance, Websphere performance tools. But in real life, I will have to rank them. The bottom ones may get cut out. I suggest the VM and Websphere performance tools. You will need to keep a tight reign on your Java applications. They can get out of hand if Java coding standards are not enforced. tom - - - - - - - - - - - - Toto, I have a feeling we're not in the mainframe world any more. _/) Tom Shilson ~GEDW & VM System Services Aloha Tel: 651-733-7591 tshilson at mmm dot com Fax: 651-736-7689 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Main: (866)569-7378 Cell: (414)491-6001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Foxpro & Linux zSeries.
As I recall, Foxpro is a commercial product. If the source code was readily available, you could compile it, but that isn't likely. If it already runs on xSeries, you could contact the company and inform them that you are interested in a zSeries port of the product. But if it is primarily GUI driven, it may not be a good fit for the zSeries. Another option may be an open source 'look alike', if there is anythng like that available. Aristarc Diez Redorta wrote: Hi, my boss is a lover of Foxpro and has asked me if there are any possibility of running it on our SLES8 zSeries. All the links I found in the web make reference to the possibility of running Foxpro in Linux x86. Can anyone help me? Thanks in advance. Aris. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Main: (866)569-7378 Cell: (414)491-6001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Oracle virtual memory sizes
When it's 'looping' can you issue the 'free' command to determine how much memory is allocated/free? Marcy Cortes wrote: What are you all using for Oracle virtual machine sizes? This is SLES 8, 31bit, Oracle 9i test/dev instance. I've currently set it up with 512M virtual and 750M swap in 2 v-disks, different priorities.User seems to think that's 2 little and it seems like oracle is occasionally looping. Marcy Cortes (415) 243-6343 "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation." -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Main: (866)569-7378 Cell: (414)491-6001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: DB2/VM performance problem
I have a customer that did something similar (to VSE) with a Multiprise 3000 with fairly acceptable response. Make sure that you have the latest DB2 for VM service on (especially any DRDA performance fixes). Using hipersockets between partitions is also extremely important (but if you have IBM involved, I would guess that they would have told you this already). Denis Morissette wrote: Hello all My company, Groupe Promutuel, is trying to implement a new application on Linux SLES 8. We are using WebSphere 5.1 in an Lpar with 2 IFL on a z800. The application needs to access a DB2/VM database (7.3) in a legacy partition on the same z800 through a DB2connect Linux server. The application is very simple but each SQL query returns around 30 rows each time. Despite that it is very simple, each transaction requires around 50 Mips overall, with 12 Mips on the legacy side (DB2 access). Also the response time of a query from the Java application is at least 5 times higher than a similar query from a Cobol-CMS application on the legacy side. We can see that DB2 and TCPIP are talking intensively to each other and that should explain part of the problem but not all. We have been working with IBM specialists for two months now to try to find the source of the problems with no success except a 30% improvement since the beginning. At this level of Mips utilization, it will not be possible to have the application in production without migrating to a z900 at a very high cost, at least for us. Denis Morissette Architecte technologique Groupe Promutuel (418) 683-1187 #415 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Main: (262)392-2026 Cell: (414)491-6001 Ans Service: (866)569-7378 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Running Linux SUSE9 without a SWAP file
I have a customer with a couple of virtual Linux guests wihout a swap file. They run just fine. Tom Morris wrote: Our LINUX guys want to set up a SUSE 9 Linux guest with out a swap file. They say we should just give it enough memory so it does not swap! Every example I have see always has a swap file. We have one set up up and it is running but is is z/vm and Linux and we are new at this! Does anyone have any experience running with out a swap file or any advice on this issue so I can pass it along? thanks Tom -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Main: (262)392-2026 Cell: (414)491-6001 Ans Service: (866)569-7378 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Running Linux SUSE9 without a SWAP file
I'll add that I concur with the rest of the respondents that it is not a good practice, but it does work (configured correctly). Rich Smrcina wrote: I have a customer with a couple of virtual Linux guests wihout a swap file. They run just fine. Tom Morris wrote: Our LINUX guys want to set up a SUSE 9 Linux guest with out a swap file. They say we should just give it enough memory so it does not swap! Every example I have see always has a swap file. We have one set up up and it is running but is is z/vm and Linux and we are new at this! Does anyone have any experience running with out a swap file or any advice on this issue so I can pass it along? thanks Tom -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Main: (262)392-2026 Cell: (414)491-6001 Ans Service: (866)569-7378 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Main: (262)392-2026 Cell: (414)491-6001 Ans Service: (866)569-7378 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Adding extended memory to z/VM
That would be 30% of VM's memory being used for expanded. I think that's a little higher than the suggested amount, but if VM isn't paging that's fine. Don't give Linux any more memory than it absoltely needs. If Linux is swapping alot during normal processing then it needs more, if it doesn't swap at all you may be able to reduce it's memory. See the free command for the cache amount. That is typically memory that can be reduced (to a certain point). Ranga Nathan wrote: After the migration of Linux from our LPAR to z/VM today, we want to release the LPAR memory and give it to z/VM. This will be 256MB. z/VM already has 768MB. Is it good to make all this 256MB for extended memory for paging? In any case, what is involved in setting up the extended memory? Oh, one more. I think it is good to give more memory to Linux (overextend the memory) rather and swap excessively as z/VM can do a better job of managing virtual memory. Whatdy'all think? Thanks all __ Ranga Nathan / CSG Systems Programmer - Specialist; Technical Services; BAX Global Inc. Irvine-California Tel: 714-442-7591 Fax: 714-442-2840 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Main: (262)392-2026 Cell: (414)491-6001 Ans Service: (866)569-7378 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: IFL LPAR names ?
No different than any other LPAR. Thomas Kern wrote: We now have a z890 sitting on the floor and our planning specialist needs to start defining LPARs and IOCP stuff. He wants to know what the naming restrictions are for an IFL LPAR. So far our searches of the web and IBM have not shown anything about naming conventions or restrictions for the different LPARs. Can anyone point us to some clear documentation of LPAR naming? /Tom Kern __ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Main: (262)392-2026 Cell: (414)491-6001 Ans Service: (866)569-7378 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: performance Monitor
I'll second Carlos' suggestion. ESALPS from Velocity Software is a wonderful suite of tools. Saulo Augusto Silva wrote: Hi , Does Anyone know the best performance monitor em LinuxVM machine . I tried to use the RMF but didn't like that. I used one time opennms software with SNMP communitty . Can I used that for linuxVM . Anyone knows where I can find specifics MIBS and OID for Linux VM . -- Saulo Augusto Silva - Analista de Suporte Engenheiro Certificado RedHat Linux Profissional Certificado LPIC-I [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 71 3115 7677 "As informaC'C5es existentes nesta mensagem e nos arquivos anexados sC#o para uso restrito, com sigilo protegido por lei. Caso nC#o seja o destinatC!rio, favor apagar esta mensagem e notificar o remetente. O uso imprC3prio das informaC'C5es desta mensagem serC! tratado conforme a legislaC'C#o em vigor. The information contained in this message and in the attached files are restricted, and its confidentiality is protected by law. In case you are not the addressee, please, delete this message and notify the sender. The improper use of this information will be treated according to the legal laws." -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Main: (262)392-2026 Cell: (414)491-6001 Ans Service: (866)569-7378 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: AW: performance Monitor
Sadly no, it is not free. Peter Manz wrote: hi! Is this tool for free? Or must i pay something for the license? -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Auftrag von Carlos A Bodra Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. Marz 2005 15:39 An: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Betreff: Re: performance Monitor Saulo, Try www.velocitysoftware.com Good luck Carlos Alberto Bodra S/390 System Programmer Sao Paulo - Brazil -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Saulo Augusto Silva Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 11:08 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: performance Monitor Hi , Does Anyone know the best performance monitor em LinuxVM machine . I tried to use the RMF but didn't like that. I used one time opennms software with SNMP communitty . Can I used that for linuxVM . Anyone knows where I can find specifics MIBS and OID for Linux VM . -- Saulo Augusto Silva - Analista de Suporte Engenheiro Certificado RedHat Linux Profissional Certificado LPIC-I [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 71 3115 7677 "As informaC'C5es existentes nesta mensagem e nos arquivos anexados sC#o para uso restrito, com sigilo protegido por lei. Caso nC#o seja o destinatC!rio, favor apagar esta mensagem e notificar o remetente. O uso imprC3prio das informaC'C5es desta mensagem serC! tratado conforme a legislaC'C#o em vigor. The information contained in this message and in the attached files are restricted, and its confidentiality is protected by law. In case you are not the addressee, please, delete this message and notify the sender. The improper use of this information will be treated according to the legal laws." -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Esta mensagem foi verificada pelo E-mail Protegido Terra. Scan engine: McAfee VirusScan / Atualizado em 07/03/2005 / Verso: 4.4.00 - Dat 4441 Proteja o seu e-mail Terra: http://mail.terra.com.br/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Main: (262)392-2026 Cell: (414)491-6001 Ans Service: (866)569-7378 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Sles9 new install
You have to click on the SSH radio button. Noll, Ralph wrote: what starts the ssh for a putty login??? Can't remember.. Got the vsftpd going ok.. Just can't remember the ssh part?? Thanks Ralph -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Main: (262)392-2026 Cell: (414)491-6001 Ans Service: (866)569-7378 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Sles9 new install
Make sure that it is actually installed, go in to YaST and search for it. If it isn't installed, install it. Once installed, it should start up automatically. Use 'chkconfig --list' to see if the service is turned on. Noll, Ralph wrote: No not that.. How to set it up.. What config file do I need to modify Ralph -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 11:22 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Sles9 new install You have to click on the SSH radio button. Noll, Ralph wrote: what starts the ssh for a putty login??? Can't remember.. Got the vsftpd going ok.. Just can't remember the ssh part?? Thanks Ralph -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Main: (262)392-2026 Cell: (414)491-6001 Ans Service: (866)569-7378 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Main: (262)392-2026 Cell: (414)491-6001 Ans Service: (866)569-7378 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Change ip of sles9
Why not use YaST? ...or in /etc/sysconfig/network there is a file called ifcfg... something that contains the device number of your interface (really, just the interface name was ALOT easier to remember). The IP Address is in that file. Noll, Ralph wrote: How do I change the ip address of my linux?? I tried ifconfig eth0 10.37.3.98 Then ifconfig eth0 down Andifconfig eth0 up Did an ifconfig after it was changed.. But could not putty to it... Did a shutdown/reboot... Ip changed back to the old ip.. Guess I am missing something... Thanks Ralph -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Main: (262)392-2026 Cell: (414)491-6001 Ans Service: (866)569-7378 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Change ip of sles9
Network->Basic - Network Card Configuration. Tab to [Change...], hit enter. Tab to [Edit], hit enter. Tab to the entry field under IP Address, make your changes. Tab to [Next], hit enter. [Finish] should be highlighted, hit enter. Your interface address should be changed. Noll, Ralph wrote: Can't find out where in yast.. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark D Pace Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 7:17 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Change ip of sles9 Why not use YaST? Here, Here... It's a nice tool, fairly intuitive, and you don't have to remember all the different files that have to be updated. Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 Office: 850.219.5184 Fax: 888.221.9862 http://www.mainline.com This e-mail and files transmitted with it are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you are not one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise have reason to believe that you received this message in error, please immediately notify sender by e-mail, and destroy the original message. Thank You. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Main: (262)392-2026 Cell: (414)491-6001 Ans Service: (866)569-7378 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Change ip of sles9
Don't get me wrong, I much prefer to edit the files myself as well. My point was that it may be much easier for new users or those not comfortable with editing the files to use YaST. Geoff O'Callaghan wrote: Mark D Pace wrote: Why not use YaST? [snip] Hey, I'm a geek. I like to edit files so I know what happens and who did it. Running yast can be difficult in some situations and backing out is more difficult. I just don't like it :-) -goc- -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Main: (262)392-2026 Cell: (414)491-6001 Ans Service: (866)569-7378 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: CPINT Question
When the dasd= parameter was added, did you run zipl? Wolfe, Gordon W wrote: I have a different, but related question: in SLES8, if I have in my zipl.conf dasd=292-2AF, and I "hcp link linux5 292 298 mr" the link is performed (VMSECURE RULES allows the link), and if I immediately look in /proc/dasd/devices, I show the new 298 disk as active at /dev/dasdg. I can then mount dasdg and work with it. Now, in SLES9 with the same zipl.conf information, If I do the link "hcp link linux5 292 298 mr" the link is performed, but the 298 does not appear as active in /proc/dasd/devices. Anyone know what the difference is? Am I missing something? "A statesman is a dead politician. Lord knows we need more statesmen!" --Berkeley Breathed Gordon Wolfe, Ph.D. Boeing Shared Services Group Enterprise Servers VM Technical Services 425-865-5940 -- From: Marco Bosisio Reply To: Linux on 390 Port Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 11:42 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject:Re: CPINT Question Dave, maybe that the linux guest hasn't cp class B .. Check zVM directory of guest at statement : USER guest_id psw 128M 512MG HELP CP ATTACH .. Authorization Privilege Class: B . Cordiali saluti / Best regards Marco Dave Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .com> To Sent by: Linux on LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 390 Port cc <[EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU> Subject CPINT Question 18-03-05 06.37 Please respond to Linux on 390 Port I installed CPINT from the SuSE SLES8 CD. I am running at SLES8 + SP3 When I enter query commands like #hcp q dasd those work When I enter an ATTACH command it does not work. I just get the prompt back. Should HCP be capable of an ATTACH command like: #hcp attach linuxguest Thanks, Dave -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Main: (262)392-2026 Cell: (414)491-6001 Ans Service: (866)569-7378 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: CPU Comparison
Last I heard, Barton's "Magic Number" was 4. But depending upon I/O load could go higher. Davis, Larry wrote: That was a very informative answer. I know Barton Robinson at one point had used a ?MHz to MIPS ratio also, and I couldn't remember what that was. Thanks. Larry -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Temple Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 12:30 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: CPU Comparison Larry, the conversion rate for Intel platforms to zSeries ranges from 3 MHz per MIPS to 30 MHz per MIPS depending on how much data you are pushing through the caches and out much serialization (context switches, locks, etc.). This is typically lower for the web servers and higher for the backend. Because zSeries capacity is almost always a mixed workload capacity the utilization peak and utilization variation on an interval by interval basis comes into play. This is because you have to configure each blade for its peak, but you configure zSeries for the composite peak which is almost always less or can be managed to be much less than the sum of the peaks. Because some workloads tend to saturate blades at lower utilization than zSeries the composite utilization peak is usually quite low. Joe Temple Executive Architect Sr. Certified IT Specialist [EMAIL PROTECTED] 845-435-6301 295/6301 cell 914-706-5211 Home office 845-338-1448 Home 845-338-8794 "Davis, Larry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ielsenMedia.com> To Sent by: Linux on LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 390 Port cc <[EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU> Subject CPU Comparison 03/18/2005 11:42 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port I know that this has been asked in many different ways, but has anyone actually put together a comparison chart or list of CPU speeds for zSeries, I32, I64, and other processors. I have a department that wants to have a group of dedicated Blades assigned to specific clients. We want to show a cost to Performance ratio for purchasing blades and scaling a zSeries system. The application uses Java, in the backend to run the queries and retrieve the data, and Web servers to interface to a client and present the results. Larry Davis, Senior Systems Engineer Nielsen Media Research 813-366-2380 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Main: (262)392-2026 Cell: (414)491-6001 Ans Service: (866)569-7378 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Document management software
There was a thread about this topic on this very list that started Monday. Check the archive for "CMS for Documentation" and "Document Management Software". Tom Duerbusch wrote: Well, one of the managers is looking into a document management solution for mainframe reports. This includes long term retension. Currently, and for the last 30 or so years, the reports were put on tape, and sent out to be microfiched. Now, they are looking for other solutions. 1. The first thing I bought up was archival and retrieval of mainframe reports isn't the same thing as document management. These are not scanned documents. These are not forms. These are mainframe printed reports. 2. Some of the big solutions (some neat stuff from Xerox), well... are costly and tremendous overkill in their functions and capacity. It's their money, but I hate spending $xxx,xxx on something that can be done for a quarter of that. 3. Since this solution is only for mainframe reports, later on, I could see the need for a full blown document management solution. So the mainframe report solution may end up being discarded. So I started thinking that there might be a Linux type solution that can be used for a few years. We can get a handle on what is needed, volume, accesses, storage, etc, that may end up being replaced by full packaged solution later on. Coming from a VSE shop, where we are scrappy. I don't see the need of spending large amounts of money for a solution, until there is a need for a large solution. When I need terabytes of documents stored, then I think I may need an external solution. But at this time, we are thinking more in the 20-30 GB a year. Perhaps, with the z/890, we might fiber attached a CD or DVD jukebox for long term, historical archives. So, anyone know of a software application (Linux, VM or VSE platform) that will do this, including chargable vender software? Or is this something that no one would ever want to use on a mainframe? Thanks Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Main: (262)392-2026 Cell: (414)491-6001 Ans Service: (866)569-7378 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390