Re: Philosophy: connecting to a Linux server (fwd)
Oh my. If this list is set to not echo posts back to the sender, then you all have my sincerest apologies. When I did not see my post, I assumed someone did not like my commentary, and I saw a similar script as the one I posted. Given that assumption, I assumed I was speaking to whomever did not allow said post through. Sorry all! I've run into situations like that before. On Tue, 3 Apr 2007, Mark Post wrote: > >>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2007 at 6:56 PM, in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, shogunx > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > oh, and by the way, thakns for the censorship, and snarfing my script as > > your own. dick. > > Were you directing this vitriol at anyone in particular? I can't say I've > seen anyone engaging in censorship, nor anyone "snarfing" your script. > Regardless, you might want to be a little more professional on the list in > the future. > > > Mark Post > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Philosophy: connecting to a Linux server (fwd)
oh, and by the way, thakns for the censorship, and snarfing my script as your own. dick. sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 17:48:24 -0400 (EDT) From: shogunx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Linux on 390 Port Subject: Re: Philosophy: connecting to a Linux server In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 3 Apr 2007, Marcy Cortes wrote: > Hey cool. It worked. Thanks Mark. > I replaced the other 1: line with this line below. > > But it doesn't have the little line in the console that makes us feel > all warm and fuzzy that the service finished booting correctly: > That is "Welcome to SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server 9 (s390x) - Kernel > 2.6.5-7.283-s390x" > > Any idea how I can keep that there? make a script: #!/bin/bash echo "Welcome to (Novell is a sellout) LINUX Enterprise Server 9 (s-390x) - Kernel" `uname -r` /bin/bash and call the script instead of /bin/bash from inittab substitute SUSE above if you like. > > > Marcy Cortes > > > This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If > you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the > addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on > this message or any information herein. If you have received this > message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail > and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation." > > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Mark Post > Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 21:45 > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Philosophy: connecting to a Linux server > > >>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2007 at 11:55 PM, in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Marcy > Cortes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rick wrote: > > "If you have an automatic login of root on the console, that should > > provide enough escape for when all other things fail." > > > > How are you setting that up? I've looked and it wasn't obvious to me. > > This entry in /etc/inittab is how I do it in Slack/390: > 1:12345:respawn:/bin/bash -i > > > Mark Post > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Philosophy: connecting to a Linux server
On Tue, 3 Apr 2007, Marcy Cortes wrote: > Hey cool. It worked. Thanks Mark. > I replaced the other 1: line with this line below. > > But it doesn't have the little line in the console that makes us feel > all warm and fuzzy that the service finished booting correctly: > That is "Welcome to SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server 9 (s390x) - Kernel > 2.6.5-7.283-s390x" > > Any idea how I can keep that there? make a script: #!/bin/bash echo "Welcome to (Novell is a sellout) LINUX Enterprise Server 9 (s-390x) - Kernel" `uname -r` /bin/bash and call the script instead of /bin/bash from inittab substitute SUSE above if you like. > > > Marcy Cortes > > > This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If > you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the > addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on > this message or any information herein. If you have received this > message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail > and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation." > > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Mark Post > Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 21:45 > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Philosophy: connecting to a Linux server > > >>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2007 at 11:55 PM, in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Marcy > Cortes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rick wrote: > > "If you have an automatic login of root on the console, that should > > provide enough escape for when all other things fail." > > > > How are you setting that up? I've looked and it wasn't obvious to me. > > This entry in /etc/inittab is how I do it in Slack/390: > 1:12345:respawn:/bin/bash -i > > > Mark Post > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Philosophy: connecting to a Linux server
That sounds like a recipe for disaster unless you have the tightest of physical security. On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Mark Post wrote: > >>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2007 at 11:55 PM, in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Marcy > Cortes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rick wrote: > > "If you have an automatic login of root on the console, that should > > provide enough escape for when all other things fail." > > > > How are you setting that up? I've looked and it wasn't obvious to me. > > This entry in /etc/inittab is how I do it in Slack/390: > 1:12345:respawn:/bin/bash -i > > > Mark Post > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Apache URL
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007, John Summerfield wrote: > Gregg Levine wrote: > > > David, your assertion that would take 37 seconds for some pest to > > promptly try to annoy the site that Stephen Frazier configured is > > indeed fact. Not too long ago I brought a new Slackware (Intel) system > > online for some development work, and since I had the SSH port open > > for other purposes, some idiot promptly found it and was rubbing the > > penguin the wrong way. > > I use tcpwrappers to restrict access to my ssh port to those regions of > the world where I might be (Western Australia). I've found some minor > discrepancies, but it's pretty rare these days that someone uses it to > enumerate my login accounts. > > Firewall rules would do about as well. Try denyhosts also... very handly little program that detects bruteforce attempts and adds the offending host to /etc/hosts.deny. Enjoy, Scott > > > -- > > Cheers > John > > -- spambait > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Please do not reply off-list > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Who's been reading our list...
Whoever wrote that just does not get it. On Tue, 16 May 2006, Neale Ferguson wrote: > http://blogs.zdnet.com/Murphy/index.php?p=595 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Google out of capacity?
On Fri, 5 May 2006, Kim Colwell wrote: > > > then againwho am I to talk, I have a 9672 shell in my garage I use a > > > toolbox. > > > shogunx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I've been using a DEC PDP-11/34 shell as a stand-up toolbox (on wheels!) > since the late '80's. Also, the removable disk drives (model ???) > converted nicely to roll-around stands for my router table, cut-off saw > table, bench-top planer table and grinder station! I also have a couple > of IBM card cabinets that worked their way into my woodshop as general > purpose storage -- the sturdy roll-out steel shelves still work great > after all these years. Thats awesome. > > (Way OT, now, huh?!?) > Eh... perhaps there are too many topicops on the network now. I quite enjoyed the Dungeons and Dragons thread last week. > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Google out of capacity?
bogometer hits the redline... On Fri, 5 May 2006, Frank Gowdey/Admin/Avery/MCS wrote: > would a good refurbed flux capacitor recover over 90% of the heat energy? > > > > shogunx > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ak.ath.cx> To > Sent by: Linux on LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > 390 Port cc > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > IST.EDU> Subject >Re: Google out of capacity? > > 05/05/2006 03:28 > PM > > > Please respond to > Linux on 390 Port > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > IST.EDU> > > > > > > > On Fri, 5 May 2006, Lee Stewart wrote: > > > Not a chance... To roughly translate the 2nd law of thermodynamics: > > - You can't win > > - You can't break even > > - You can't leave the game > > I didn't say recover ALL the energy. Just some of that lost to heat. > Like ducting the exhaust from the noc into the building ventilation system > so the mainframe can heat the building during the winter (I know my shark > heated my house 2 winters ago). Only it this case it would duct it into > a device that uses it to generate (no matter how trvial) electricity. Ah > well, I'm rambling. > > Enjoy, > Scott > > > > > Sigh... > > Lee > > > > shogunx wrote: > > > > > Seems like someone would have figured out a way to recover the energy > in > > > the form of electricity from that all that heat already. > > > > > > -- > > > > Lee Stewart, Senior SE > > Sirius Enterprise Systems Group > > Phone: (303) 798-2954 > > Fax: (720) 228-2321 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > www.siriuscom.com > > > > -- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > > sleekfreak pirate broadcast > http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Google out of capacity?
I read that Vixie used to keep one of the DNS root servers in his garage some years ago. On Fri, 5 May 2006, James Melin wrote: > Do I even want to know WHY you had a Shark disk subsytem in you house? > > then againwho am I to talk, I have a 9672 shell in my garage I use a > toolbox. > > > > > shogunx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent by: Linux on 390 Port > > To > > LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > > cc > 05/05/2006 03:28 PM > > Subject > Re: > Google out of capacity? > Please respond to >Linux on 390 Port > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 5 May 2006, Lee Stewart wrote: > > > Not a chance... To roughly translate the 2nd law of thermodynamics: > > - You can't win > > - You can't break even > > - You can't leave the game > > I didn't say recover ALL the energy. Just some of that lost to heat. > Like ducting the exhaust from the noc into the building ventilation system > so the mainframe can heat the building during the winter (I know my shark > heated my house 2 winters ago). Only it this case it would duct it into > a device that uses it to generate (no matter how trvial) electricity. Ah > well, I'm rambling. > > Enjoy, > Scott > > > > > Sigh... > > Lee > > > > shogunx wrote: > > > > > Seems like someone would have figured out a way to recover the energy in > > > the form of electricity from that all that heat already. > > > > > > -- > > > > Lee Stewart, Senior SE > > Sirius Enterprise Systems Group > > Phone: (303) 798-2954 > > Fax: (720) 228-2321 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > www.siriuscom.com > > > > -- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > > sleekfreak pirate broadcast > http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Google out of capacity?
On Fri, 5 May 2006, James Melin wrote: > Do I even want to know WHY you had a Shark disk subsytem in you house? My lab was the bottom floor of the house. The 9672 was right next to the shark, actually. I ported linux to the shark. > > then againwho am I to talk, I have a 9672 shell in my garage I use a > toolbox. > > > > > shogunx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent by: Linux on 390 Port > > To > > LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > > cc > 05/05/2006 03:28 PM > > Subject > Re: > Google out of capacity? > Please respond to >Linux on 390 Port > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 5 May 2006, Lee Stewart wrote: > > > Not a chance... To roughly translate the 2nd law of thermodynamics: > > - You can't win > > - You can't break even > > - You can't leave the game > > I didn't say recover ALL the energy. Just some of that lost to heat. > Like ducting the exhaust from the noc into the building ventilation system > so the mainframe can heat the building during the winter (I know my shark > heated my house 2 winters ago). Only it this case it would duct it into > a device that uses it to generate (no matter how trvial) electricity. Ah > well, I'm rambling. > > Enjoy, > Scott > > > > > Sigh... > > Lee > > > > shogunx wrote: > > > > > Seems like someone would have figured out a way to recover the energy in > > > the form of electricity from that all that heat already. > > > > > > -- > > > > Lee Stewart, Senior SE > > Sirius Enterprise Systems Group > > Phone: (303) 798-2954 > > Fax: (720) 228-2321 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > www.siriuscom.com > > > > -- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > > sleekfreak pirate broadcast > http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Google out of capacity?
On Fri, 5 May 2006, Lee Stewart wrote: > Not a chance... To roughly translate the 2nd law of thermodynamics: > - You can't win > - You can't break even > - You can't leave the game I didn't say recover ALL the energy. Just some of that lost to heat. Like ducting the exhaust from the noc into the building ventilation system so the mainframe can heat the building during the winter (I know my shark heated my house 2 winters ago). Only it this case it would duct it into a device that uses it to generate (no matter how trvial) electricity. Ah well, I'm rambling. Enjoy, Scott > > Sigh... > Lee > > shogunx wrote: > > > Seems like someone would have figured out a way to recover the energy in > > the form of electricity from that all that heat already. > > > -- > > Lee Stewart, Senior SE > Sirius Enterprise Systems Group > Phone: (303) 798-2954 > Fax: (720) 228-2321 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.siriuscom.com > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Google out of capacity?
On Fri, 5 May 2006, Little, Chris wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: shogunx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 2:28 PM > > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > > Subject: Re: Google out of capacity? > > > > On Fri, 5 May 2006, Adam Thornton wrote: > > > > > On May 5, 2006, at 12:42 PM, Alan Altmark wrote: > > > > The heat from all the servers has altered the climate and > > raised the > > > > ocean levels. All of our homes are on stilts. > > > > > > > > Or, they could choose some form of virtualization and save us all. > > > > (He > > > > Who Must Not Be Annoyed says that z is not the answer for Google.) > > > > > > > > > > I for one welcome our new aquatic masters. > > > > Seems like someone would have figured out a way to recover > > the energy in the form of electricity from that all that heat already. > > Google becomes the perpetual engine . . . . Well, to apply to datacenters in general... > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Google out of capacity?
On Fri, 5 May 2006, Adam Thornton wrote: > On May 5, 2006, at 12:42 PM, Alan Altmark wrote: > > The heat from all the servers has altered the climate and raised > > the ocean > > levels. All of our homes are on stilts. > > > > Or, they could choose some form of virtualization and save us all. > > (He > > Who Must Not Be Annoyed says that z is not the answer for Google.) > > > > I for one welcome our new aquatic masters. Seems like someone would have figured out a way to recover the energy in the form of electricity from that all that heat already. > > Adam > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Google out of capacity?
On Fri, 5 May 2006, Vic Cross wrote: > On 05/05/2006, at 5:53am, Fargusson.Alan wrote: > > > A long time ago I read that they did TCO studies, and found it less > > costly to buy lots of low cost hardware over buying fewer high cost > > systems. > > "A long time ago" is the point. When I read similar, the server > count was around 8000 -- it would seem that they've grown > considerably beyond that now. I doubt they've updated their TCO > analysis accordingly... :) The real question is could a z9 outprocess existing clusters, out scale them at the same rate, and do so in such a fashion as to make it attractive to google to abandon its own in-house OS? > > Cheers, > Vic Cross > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Adam Thornton wrote: > On Apr 27, 2006, at 11:10 AM, Alan Altmark wrote: > > Actual naming is very complex. Multi-colored wheels with spinners, 20 > > 4-sided dice, and 4 20-sided dice are involved. (I think the 20-sided > > dice explain why certain letters never appear in product names.) > > Does that mean that the z9BC is a 6 Hit Die Aberration? No. Mainframes start at level one with 3d10 hit points per processor. > > Adam > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Setting Hostname in SuSE Linux image on VM
Does this help? manticore:~# cd /proc/sys/kernel manticore:/proc/sys/kernel# echo a > hostname manticore:/proc/sys/kernel# hostname a manticore:/proc/sys/kernel# echo manticore > hostname manticore:/proc/sys/kernel# hostname manticore Scott On Thu, 30 Mar 2006, Ryan Stewart wrote: > Hi all, > > Does anyone know the proper way to set the hostname in SuSE. I had a > problem recently with the modprobe utility. I was conversing with > Novell about the issue via email and after spending some time on the > problem (since this was just a test image), I was going to reinstall. I > played with it a little longer and figured out when I compared the file > /sbin/modprobe to the same file on another image, they were different. > So I copied the file from the good image to the bad one. Everything > works (or so it seems to so far), but at my prompt I have a hostname of > (none). > > For some reason I cannot set the hostname using the hostname command > either. I have added it to the /etc/hosts file. The hostname is > correct in the /etc/HOSTNAME file. One thing I noticed is in the > /proc/sys/kernel/hostname file it says (none) for the hostname. > > I am not sure what else to check or change. Anyone have any thoughts on > the issue? > > Thanks, > > Ryan Stewart > Indian River Community College > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Passing a parameter to a linux guest at IPL time
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006, James Melin wrote: > Hi. We'd like to be able to IPL our linux guests at system maintenance > time but tell them to not start WebSphere until we tell them to. What is > the best way to pass a parameter to the guest, read the parameter from > within the guest and then act on it? I would say set a runlevel to not include WebSphere, and pass init=$RUNLEVELWOWEBSPHERE to the kernel at IPL time. > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: cygwin & x11
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Rob van der Heij wrote: > On 2/22/06, shogunx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > it amazes me how many times that particular wheel has been reinvented. > > Poor guidance is as popular on the Internet as proper recommendations. The same can be said of most other forms of communication. > And in case you wonder, my estimate for the half life of any > information on Internet is 10 years. How do you arrive at your estimate? > > Rob > -- > Rob van der Heij > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: cygwin & x11
it amazes me how many times that particular wheel has been reinvented. On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, John Summerfied wrote: > shogunx wrote: > > On Tue, 21 Feb 2006, Bruce Gui wrote: > > > > > >>does any one know how to install a application with graphic interface by > >>cygwin (local) and x11 (remote)? > >> > >>I only know on localhost these steps should be done: > >>start cygwin > >>xinit > >>twm& > >>netstat -a (listening on TCP port 6000) > > > > > > if you have X11 forwarding set to yes in /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the > > remote host, you can simply ssh -X $HOSTNAME, and remote X11 applications > > will be displayed locally. alternatively, if there is sufficient > > bandwidth on both ends, and you have gdm, kdm, gdm or the like running on > > the remote host, you can X -query $HOSTNAME, instead of twm, and get a > > full X11 session on the remote host. > > be careful to watch the security around the latter method. > > > > > >>but on remote host, what should I do? > > You could also run vnc on the Linux bos, and that gives you the choice > of vnc clients on Windows (there are several) and using any java-capable > web browser. > > > > > -- > > Cheers > John > > -- spambait > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ > > do not reply off-list > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: cygwin & x11
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006, Bruce Gui wrote: > does any one know how to install a application with graphic interface by > cygwin (local) and x11 (remote)? > > I only know on localhost these steps should be done: > start cygwin > xinit > twm& > netstat -a (listening on TCP port 6000) if you have X11 forwarding set to yes in /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the remote host, you can simply ssh -X $HOSTNAME, and remote X11 applications will be displayed locally. alternatively, if there is sufficient bandwidth on both ends, and you have gdm, kdm, gdm or the like running on the remote host, you can X -query $HOSTNAME, instead of twm, and get a full X11 session on the remote host. be careful to watch the security around the latter method. > > but on remote host, what should I do? > > Best Regards, > > Bruce Gui > > IBM Global Resource Delivery China > pan-IOT Europe Integrated Delivery Center - Platform Support Mainframe > E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Hosed root shell setting in /etc/passwd
Can you pass init=1 to the kernel when you IPL it? This would drop you to single user mode, where you could make repairs. On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, Adam Thornton wrote: > On Feb 13, 2006, at 2:42 PM, Kyle Smith wrote: > > > If you have any other Linux guests you could link to the hosed pack > > in VM > > and then mount it on the other image and repair /etc/passwd. > > Or you could get e2sh and repair your disk that way: > > http://sinenomine.net/vm/ext2free > > Adam > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Linux on Intel;
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Gregg Levine wrote: > Hello from Gregg C Levine > Thank you David for reminding me why I do not recommend that company's > routers. (That was one I did not know about. For another one please > contact me off list. Either address.) And that includes wireless > hardware. From Belkin I only recommend their supplies outside of their > routers. I have had success with Belkin PrismII based wireless pci cards (the only ones I could find) for constructing HostAP access points. In fact, I have one sitting in a DEC Alphaserver that serves as a X11 server for a thin-client net-cafe network. The card provides the wireless access point for the network, and performs admirably, though I did have to change the station firmware of the card to allow clients to associate with it. > -- > Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "This signature was once found posting rude > messages in English in the Moscow subway." > > On 2/10/06, David Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 12:17 -0500, Gregg C Levine wrote: > > > Let's see The only brand I can think of, that is its available > > > practically everywhere is Belkin. > > > > Oh yes... Belkin. These are the people who sold a router that > > periodically hijacked your port 80 traffic and redirected it to their > > own adservers. See: > >http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/11/07/help_my_belkin_router/ > > > >"The router would grab a random HTTP connection every > >eight hours and redirect it to Belkin's (push) advertised > >web page." > > > > Perhaps they make fine equipment. But I won't buy any. > > > > (Excuse the OT post.) > > > > -- > > David Andrews > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Linux S/390 on z890?
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006, Rob van der Heij wrote: > On 1/5/06, Kittendorf, Craig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Will this release run unchanged on the z890? > > Probably you change a whole lot more than that... getting new network > devices? Maybe new DASD subsystem? Your old Linux system will not be > able to exploit those new things, and it's obviously not supported > anymore. Does that mean the jail will not be functional for a while? That almost makes me giggle. > > Rob > -- > Rob van der Heij rvdheij @ gmail.com > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: DASD over ethernet.
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005, Carsten Otte wrote: > shogunx wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Nov 2005, Carsten Otte wrote: > >>It *should* work as > >>far as I can tell, but be aware that you can run into nasty deadlocks once > >>you don't have a local swap disk: you'll need networking for paging/disk IO, > >>and once linux is hard out of memory networking is suspended until there is > >>memory available => deadlock. > > > > > > How would that be different than having swap on standard SAN housed > > DASD? Does ficon/escon not suspend under those conditions? > Our device driver infrastructure in the swap path is aware of that problem and > is able to do IO without the need for memory (preallocation of FICON channel > programs etc.). Same is true for SCSI subsystem. Thus, this deadlock cannot > arise with FICON/FCP. I understand. Its using the TCP/IP stack that will cause the problem. > > >>Workaround could be to have a ramdisk or z/VM DCSS as swap target, or to go > >>to church once a week ;-). > > > > > > Ramdisk would probably do the job. I'll start by installing linux on the > > bare metal of the 9672. BTW, there are only 5 processors live on this > > particular 9672, I suppose I would have to pay to get the other 7 > > functional? > Ask your IBM sales representative about this, I am sure they can help you > here ;-). The funny thing is I do not have one of those. I purchased the machine from a military surplus auction. According to the info I have gathered, it was deployed in the pentagon as part of army.mil before I bought it. I paid a total of $4G including shipping for the 2 cabinet gen5 9672 and 2 sharks. Notwithstanding, the only way I could afford to speak to a sales rep about this would probably be speak to a HR department person first, and hope skilled linux geeks are in demand at IBM;) I would first have to abandon my mom and pop business to do so, however... Scott > -- > > Carsten Otte > IBM Linux technology center > ARCH=s390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: DASD over ethernet.
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005, Carsten Otte wrote: > shogunx wrote: > > Thats the only standpoint I need... The 390 is a R&D environment, not > > used in production, and we own it outright. SO, theoretically, I could > > slap a larger hd in the console of the 390, run linux on it, telnet into > > the 390, and mount a partition of the drive in the console as the > > DASD via network block device, thereby eliminating the need for an > > external SAN to provide DASD? I know, I lose redundancy, etc, but I can't > > seem to acquire code to operate the SSA SerialRAID controllers in my > > Shark, which I ported linux to. > Interresting project to port Linux to your shark ;-). I had to. I couldn't get higher than "service" priveleges on the shark hosts to be able to do anything with it when I bought it used, so my workaround was yank the 9gb system disk, put a filesystem and kernel on in(gentoo with a hand tweaked kernel compiled on a 7025 running SuSE), put it back in the shark, and boot. loop that a few times for trial and error on the kernel/fs and it worked. they are nice hosts, as I'm sure you know. lack of code for the SSA subsystem and PCI expansion enclosures is a bit of a pain, but better than no access to the host. > It *should* work as > far as I can tell, but be aware that you can run into nasty deadlocks once > you don't have a local swap disk: you'll need networking for paging/disk IO, > and once linux is hard out of memory networking is suspended until there is > memory available => deadlock. How would that be different than having swap on standard SAN housed DASD? Does ficon/escon not suspend under those conditions? > Workaround could be to have a ramdisk or z/VM DCSS as swap target, or to go > to church once a week ;-). Ramdisk would probably do the job. I'll start by installing linux on the bare metal of the 9672. BTW, there are only 5 processors live on this particular 9672, I suppose I would have to pay to get the other 7 functional? Thanks, Scott > > cheers, > Carsten > -- > > Carsten Otte > IBM Linux technology center > ARCH=s390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: DASD over ethernet.
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005, Carsten Otte wrote: > shogunx wrote: > > Hi all, > > I was wondering if an s/390 can mount a dasd over an ethernet interface, > > instead of through a ficon or escon hba? > > You can use the network block device to export any Linux block device > (including _partitions_ of a dasd) via any IP connection (including ethernet). > I personally would'nt bet data on it that I get fired for in case it gets > lost because it is not tested/supported on zSeries Linux - but from the > hacker standpoint it works. Thats the only standpoint I need... The 390 is a R&D environment, not used in production, and we own it outright. SO, theoretically, I could slap a larger hd in the console of the 390, run linux on it, telnet into the 390, and mount a partition of the drive in the console as the DASD via network block device, thereby eliminating the need for an external SAN to provide DASD? I know, I lose redundancy, etc, but I can't seem to acquire code to operate the SSA SerialRAID controllers in my Shark, which I ported linux to. Thanks, Scott > -- > > Carsten Otte > IBM Linux technology center > ARCH=s390 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
DASD over ethernet.
Hi all, I was wondering if an s/390 can mount a dasd over an ethernet interface, instead of through a ficon or escon hba? Thanx, Scott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: /etc/hosts
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005, Tom Duerbusch wrote: > > I started looking at my older Linux images. Most don't have an entry > in the /etc/hosts file. Some do. > > I have a documentation folder for each Linux image I've created. I > don't have any entries on me creating entries in the 'hosts' file. > > So, in trying to understand this futher > > Is entries in the /etc/hosts file, really required? > Or is it "older" technology, that normally is replaced by some other > function? /etc/hosts was the predecessor to the DNS, when the internet was only a few hundred hosts. There was a central /etc/hosts file, which was updated via ftp to the various and assorted other hosts on the internet. This, obviously, does not scale, so the distributed database that is the DNS was created. > > So, is this more current, or obsolete in SLES9? /etc/hosts is reasonably only useful these days for bypassing DNS query's for hosts on a LAN/WAN by hardcoding their addresses, and providing functionality to some protocols and applications thereto, like X11 for example, which will barf up a lung if there is not an entry to indicate the hostname of the box attempting to connect (usually the local machine). Proper functioning of the networking subsystems also requires AT LEAST 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost so the loopback network interface works properly. Scott > > Thanks > > Tom Duerbusch > THD Cosulting > (What kind of mistakes do ghosts make? > > Boo, Boos!) > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SUSE Linux for 390
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, Post, Mark K wrote: > And what does any of that have to do with what I said? > thats debian. > > Mark Post > > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > shogunx > Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 4:02 PM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: SUSE Linux for 390 > > > On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, Post, Mark K wrote: > > > If and only if ISV certifications are not an issue, and they usually > > are. Plus, while I know the gang at SNA does a good job of providing > > commercial support for Debian/390, a lot of PHBs are not going to be > > willing to use them because they don't have thousands of employees all > > > over the world. Another reason why PHBs stink, but unfortunately > > they're a fact of life. > > Not that I have a problem with commercial Linux vendors... I don't, nor > do I have a problem with anyone making a living from open source > support. The roots (no pun intended) of the community are still in > effect in the form of a system that anyone CAN use, gratis, with open > source and open documentation, and that is what matters. > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SUSE Linux for 390
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, Post, Mark K wrote: > If and only if ISV certifications are not an issue, and they usually > are. Plus, while I know the gang at SNA does a good job of providing > commercial support for Debian/390, a lot of PHBs are not going to be > willing to use them because they don't have thousands of employees all > over the world. Another reason why PHBs stink, but unfortunately > they're a fact of life. Not that I have a problem with commercial Linux vendors... I don't, nor do I have a problem with anyone making a living from open source support. The roots (no pun intended) of the community are still in effect in the form of a system that anyone CAN use, gratis, with open source and open documentation, and that is what matters. > > > Mark Post > > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > shogunx > Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 1:26 PM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: SUSE Linux for 390 > > > -snip- > > Makes a decent case for Debian s/390 and good old > > apt-get update && apt-get upgrade. > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SUSE Linux for 390
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, Daniel Jarboe wrote: > > I actually don't think there is any software checking. > > We bought support during the period and we never had > > to change anything from the original install. > > What ends is your ability to pull maintenance from portal. Makes a decent case for Debian s/390 and good old apt-get update && apt-get upgrade. > > ~ Daniel > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Quick question
On Tue, 4 Oct 2005, James Melin wrote: #!/bin/bash mkisofs -o filesystem.iso / mount -t iso9660 -o loop filesystem.iso /mnt/ > if you take the methodology specified in the procedure specfied here: > http://www.linuxvm.org/Info/HOWTOs/movefs.html > > Can you take a single volume clone image and copy it to a broken-out file > system mounted at say, /mnt, and have the output traverse the mountpoints > in the output file system structure? Or is the output also tartget file > system constrained? Un-tar should traverse any directories that already > exist, shouldn't it? Basically I want to take '/' and copy it to a tree > mounted under /mnt (/mnt/etc, /mnt/opt, etcetera) and make sure everything > that was on the single volume clone is coied to the expanded file system. > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: your mail
On Thu, 4 Aug 2005, Little, Chris wrote:
> life?
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fi
fi
}
>
> ::insert witty snippet of code here::
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: shogunx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 4:28 AM
> > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
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> > perhpas a more complete description of your problem would help?
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> >
> > On Wed, 3 Aug 2005, John Summerfied wrote:
> >
> > > cox, gary wrote:
> > > > help
> > >
> > > I'm helpless
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > John
> > >
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Re: your mail
perhpas a more complete description of your problem would help? On Wed, 3 Aug 2005, John Summerfied wrote: > cox, gary wrote: > > help > > I'm helpless > > > -- > > Cheers > John > > -- spambait > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Fishin' for information
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005, Rich Smrcina wrote: > You name it, it's probably running on Linux for zSeries. Databases, Web > Serving, Web applications and infrastructure support are the biggies. X11 server to support a massive number of X-Terminals? > > The challenge over the past 5 1/2 years has been performance and getting > systems admins and management to understand that this is a shared > environment and that it has unique tuning requirements that at first > blush sound counter-intuitive. > > Brad Brewer wrote: > > All, > > > > I was wondering what type of applications are companies using zLinux for, > > because I have seen a lot of Oracle questions, but are there other > > applications using zLinux? > > > > Also, has the implementation of zLinux been a pretty successful one? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Brad Brewer > > Humana Inc. > > Technical Services > > System Software > > (502)580-3086 > > > > > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to > > which it is addressed and may contain CONFIDENTIAL material. If you > > receive this material/information in error, please contact the sender and > > delete or destroy the material/information. > > > > -- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > > -- > Rich Smrcina > VM Assist, Inc. > Main: (262)392-2026 > Cell: (414)491-6001 > Ans Service: (360)715-2467 > rich.smrcina at vmassist.com > > Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org > WAVV 2006 - Chattanooga, TN - April 7-11, 2006 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SLES9 Installation - Very Basic
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005, Smith, Ann (ISD, IT) wrote: > I have finally ordered SLES9 for zseries. > I ordered media which I have received. > There are 6 CD's for SLES9 64-bit for zseries and > 6 CD's for 31-bit for s/390. I did not realize there was a 31-bit SLES9. > Why did I think SLES9 was 64-bit only? That would be for Gen 4 s/390 machines. > Which method is preferred? NFS seems relatively straight forward. > > > > * > PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL: This communication, including attachments, is > for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, > confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended > recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is > strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify > the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and > destroy all copies. > * > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Denial of service attack
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, Alan Cox wrote: > On Maw, 2005-07-12 at 05:05, shogunx wrote: > > > Verifying source is fairly hard except for internal network traffic. > > > > Perhaps a quick arp lookup on the ip address indicated in the packets, and > > a comparison to the originating mac address's ip. Who would that exclude? > > Forged ip addresses. Virtual hosts, in some instances. > > Anything behind a router Why on this one? Do modern routers break arp? > and anything not with differing in and out > routing paths. How is that accomplished? I tried that some time ago, without success. > Anything being load balanced over multiple cables. This make sense. Good point. > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Denial of service attack
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Alan Cox wrote: > On Iau, 2005-07-07 at 22:12, shogunx wrote: > > Oh, I see. Someone forges headers to spoof the mirror into relaying nasty > > packets somewhere. A bit of logic in the middle of the subroutine could > > verify authenticity and if authentic, MIRROR, and if not authentic LOG > > or DROP. > > Verifying source is fairly hard except for internal network traffic. Perhaps a quick arp lookup on the ip address indicated in the packets, and a comparison to the originating mac address's ip. Who would that exclude? Forged ip addresses. Virtual hosts, in some instances. > > The more evil version of this is to find big networks configured for old > style "respond to broadcast ping" behaviour. People then spoof packets > to the broadcast address of that network with a fake source address of > the victim, instant attack amplifier and most unpleasant. > Thats heavy duty. > Alan > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Denial of service attack
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Alan Cox wrote: > On Iau, 2005-07-07 at 17:50, shogunx wrote: > > On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Ryan McCain wrote: > > > > > Just make sure you DROP it and not REJECT it. > > > > I was thinking MIRROR it, sending back to the pit from whence it came. > > You don't know where it came from because the source maybe fake. > Mirroring it merely helps people hide attacks on other sites via yours. Oh, I see. Someone forges headers to spoof the mirror into relaying nasty packets somewhere. A bit of logic in the middle of the subroutine could verify authenticity and if authentic, MIRROR, and if not authentic LOG or DROP. > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Denial of service attack
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Alan Cox wrote: > > Is there any software, z/Linux or z/VM based, that can be used to check > > for, and possibility prevent a DOS attack? Perhaps from Velocity? > > hint..hint.. (sure would help justification...) > > snort is the classic tool set used for security monitoring in the open > source world. It can detect a lot of attacks and suspicious packet > patterns. Yes, snort is an excellent IDS. I would also recommend a preemptive nessus scan. Scott > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Denial of service attack
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Ryan McCain wrote: > Just make sure you DROP it and not REJECT it. I was thinking MIRROR it, sending back to the pit from whence it came. > > Ryan > > >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/06/05 4:57 pm >>> > On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Adam Thornton wrote: > > >On Jul 6, 2005, at 4:10 PM, shogunx wrote: > > > >>Adaptive iptables would do the trick nicely. > > > >Yeah, what he said. Not necessarily even adaptive: merely limiting > >SYN floods with an iptables-based Linux router would probably help a > >lot. > > True. A static iptables rule denying the offending packets would do the > trick. I just had a moment of inspiration on writing a set of scripts > that will rewrite the rulechains on the fly in such events. > > Scott > > > > >Adam > > > >-- > >For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > >http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > > sleekfreak pirate broadcast > http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Denial of service attack
On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Adam Thornton wrote: > On Jul 6, 2005, at 4:10 PM, shogunx wrote: > > > Adaptive iptables would do the trick nicely. > > Yeah, what he said. Not necessarily even adaptive: merely limiting > SYN floods with an iptables-based Linux router would probably help a > lot. True. A static iptables rule denying the offending packets would do the trick. I just had a moment of inspiration on writing a set of scripts that will rewrite the rulechains on the fly in such events. Scott > > Adam > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Denial of service attack
On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Tom Duerbusch wrote: > I don't think I can ngrep the interface. The DOS isn't hitting any of > the mainframe Linux images. Perhaps this is a justificiation for moving > the mainframe communications from being supported by VM's TCP/IP stack > to being supported by SLES9? I would do the sniff from another host running linux jacked into the same switch as the mainframe's ethernet interface. This way, there is no connectivity loss to the mainframe. Security tools, if they cannot be easily ported, do make sufficient reason for deploying SLES, IMHO. My choice, however, would be debian, but thats just personal preference. Scott > > Tom Duerbusch > THD Consulting > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/06/05 4:10 PM >>> > On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Tom Duerbusch wrote: > > > Well, we are in the mist of a DOS attack. > > > > This is against one of our VSE systems which is routed thru the VM > > stack. Currently TCPIP is getting about 2,500 I/Os per second > instead > > of the normal, under 100 per second. > > > > Anyway, a chap from United Forensics is here and is going to put a > > sniffer on (which apparently requires the mainframes ethernet cable > to > > be disconnected and reconnected into the sniffer. No good durning > the > > day with the tn3270 users, so we are going to do it later in the > > evening. > > Why not just ngrep the interface under attack? > > > > > But, now for the real question... > > > > Is there any software, z/Linux or z/VM based, that can be used to > check > > for, and possibility prevent a DOS attack? Perhaps from Velocity? > > hint..hint.. (sure would help justification...) > > > > Adaptive iptables would do the trick nicely. > > > Some think this is a network problem and let the network people > handle > > it. But when it impacts the mainframe, it's my problem. A network > type > > is just one of the possible solutions. > > > > I would think software on the mainframe, would be less disruptive > then > > detaching the ethernet cable for the sniffer. > > > > TN3270 is running slow, but still running. > > IP printing to the big Xerox laser is dog slow (30 minutes plus to > ship > > a 400 page PDF file). > > DRDA access to DB2, just isn't going to happen. DB2 times out the > > request before it can be completed (or ODBC or something closes the > > connection). > > > > So, perhaps, I can justify something > > > > Tom Duerbusch > > THD Consulting > > > > > -- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 > or visit > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > > sleekfreak pirate broadcast > http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 > or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Denial of service attack
On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Tom Duerbusch wrote: > Well, we are in the mist of a DOS attack. > > This is against one of our VSE systems which is routed thru the VM > stack. Currently TCPIP is getting about 2,500 I/Os per second instead > of the normal, under 100 per second. > > Anyway, a chap from United Forensics is here and is going to put a > sniffer on (which apparently requires the mainframes ethernet cable to > be disconnected and reconnected into the sniffer. No good durning the > day with the tn3270 users, so we are going to do it later in the > evening. Why not just ngrep the interface under attack? > > But, now for the real question... > > Is there any software, z/Linux or z/VM based, that can be used to check > for, and possibility prevent a DOS attack? Perhaps from Velocity? > hint..hint.. (sure would help justification...) > Adaptive iptables would do the trick nicely. > Some think this is a network problem and let the network people handle > it. But when it impacts the mainframe, it's my problem. A network type > is just one of the possible solutions. > > I would think software on the mainframe, would be less disruptive then > detaching the ethernet cable for the sniffer. > > TN3270 is running slow, but still running. > IP printing to the big Xerox laser is dog slow (30 minutes plus to ship > a 400 page PDF file). > DRDA access to DB2, just isn't going to happen. DB2 times out the > request before it can be completed (or ODBC or something closes the > connection). > > So, perhaps, I can justify something > > Tom Duerbusch > THD Consulting > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Business Week Article
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005, Little, Chris wrote: > Except that VMWare will be supporting W2k3 servers . . . . Ahh, I see the problem. That is a mistake I would not make. > > On Thu, 30 Jun 2005, Little, Chris wrote: > > We're using zseries for the reliability and hardware consolidation factor= > s. > > Before too long (we are testing the waters right now) we'll be moving to = > the > > vmware route also. > > or you could patch uml into that kernel... > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Business Week Article
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005, Little, Chris wrote: > We're using zseries for the reliability and hardware consolidation factors. > Before too long (we are testing the waters right now) we'll be moving to the > vmware route also. or you could patch uml into that kernel... > > chris > > -Original Message- > From: Uriel Carrasquilla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 1:04 PM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: Business Week Article > > Wait until we switch CPU's from electricity to light. We will be asking the > same question. > The challenge is to harness the speed and power, something that zOS on > z-Series does very well in a reliable manner. > It is also I/O computational superior to a lot of platforms out there. > But I agree, in terms of MHz, z-Series run slower. > > Regards, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > NCCI > Boca Raton, Florida > 561.893.2415 > greetings / avec mes meilleures salutations / Cordialmente mit freundlichen > Gr??en / Med v?nlig h?lsning > > > > > "McKown, John" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: > LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > insctr.com> cc: > > Sent by: Linux onSubject: Re: Business Week > Article > 390 Port > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > IST.EDU> > > > > > > 06/30/2005 01:30 > > PM > > Please respond to > > Linux on 390 Port > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Rich Smrcina > > Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 12:15 PM > > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > > Subject: Re: Business Week Article > > > > > > 700Mhz? That seems pretty low. > > > > That's what I've heard as well. I've always wondered why the zSeries is so > computationally inferior to almost any other current CPU architecture. > > -- > John McKown > Senior Systems Programmer > UICI Insurance Center > Information Technology > > This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information > intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its' > content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you > should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, > copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on > it, is strictly prohibited. > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > > > > The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the > personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. This message > may be an attorney-client communication and/or work product and as such is > privileged and confidential. If the reader of this message is not the > intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in > error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this > message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in > error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original > message. > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: EMC storage
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Re: Duplicate MAC Addresses
You could give maccahnger a go also. ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/macchanger/macchanger-1.5.0.tar.gz Scott On Fri, 25 Mar 2005, David Boyes wrote: > > I don't know any thing about VM and very little about IP. > > However I can > > share one OSA card with multiple LPARS each with its own IP > > address and > > possibly a VIPA address. All IP addresses are in the same > > network, and all > > have the same physical MAC address of the OSA card. > > Yeah. There's a lot of seriously unusual magic going on to make that > work -- this part is one of the hardest things for network weenies to > grasp: that there can be more than one system with the same physical MAC > *iff* there is a separation of layer 2 MAC frame processing from layer 3 > IP processing, and a single entity (your OSA) controls the mapping > between layer 2 and layer 3 address mappings in a consistent way. > > ARP and MAC addresses are layer 2 things -- below the IP layer (at layer > 3). At layer 2, the MAC address IS unique -- there's only one physical > card with that MAC attached within the collision domain. > > In the shared environment you mention, the OSA is acting as a "layer > 2.75" device -- it's aware of some layer 3 addressing, but is not a full > layer 3 router. The OSA ucode is handling mapping the single layer 2 MAC > to multiple layer 3 addresses (which is why the stacks behind the OSA > don't do ARP processing, because to make all this work, the card has to > do it to keep all the ducks lined up while sharing a single physical > MAC). > > If you load the layer 2 microcode, or you're dealing with combinations > of internal and external systems on VLANs, then you have to have unique > MACs, because that OSA ucode mapping magic is no longer active for that > conenction -- you gotta play with the real world scenario, where > everything has to have a unique MAC. > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Debian touts dropping full dev for certain archit ectures (incl. S/390)
Last week I got one from a woman claiming to be Saddam Husseins wife! Those silly Nigerian 419'ers. On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Eric Clapsaddle wrote: > I got one from the attorney of a distant relative in Nigeria that passed > away. Even though I never met him, he wanted to give me a large > inheritance. > What a guy! > > Eric > > > > shogunx > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ak.ath.cx> To > Sent by: Linux on LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > 390 Port cc > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > IST.EDU> Subject >Re: Debian touts dropping full dev >for certain archit ectures (incl. > 03/16/2005 09:04 S/390) > AM > > > Please respond to > Linux on 390 Port > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > IST.EDU> > > > > > > > On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Richard Pinion wrote: > > > I'm sure there are many banks in Nigeria that would love to open an > > account for you. We're always getting emails from them trying to give > > away money of some rich person who died and has no family. All you need > > to do is give them your current bank account number! > > :) > I get plenty of those too. Most of the packet headers actually originate > in germany, if I remember correctly. I actually had someone try to scam > me out of a digital alphaserver 2100 in a similar fashion. > > > > > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/16/05 09:43AM >>> > > On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Phil Howard wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 07:23:24AM -0500, shogunx wrote: > > > > > > | On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Phil Howard wrote: > > > | > > > | > | That part I have. What I do not have is 3-phase power to run it. > > > | > > > > | > What voltage and amperage does it need? > > > | > > > | 3-phase 440V most likely about 20-30 amps. > > > > > > You'll need at least 25 kVA. That's as much power as a small house. > Then > > > add air conditioning. Not sure whether upgrading electric service or > buying > > > a generator would cost more. Maybe renting one long enough to see if > it > > > will power up could be done. What are your goals for it? > > > > > > Is it literally 440 volts, or is that just a figure of speech for what > is > > > officially 480 volts (if you are in the US)? > > > > Well, according to ohms law, it should work at 440, though with a higher > > current draw. You are correct. 3-phase each phase 120 degrees out of > > phase from the others at 120V per phase yields 3 discrete 240V circuits > > (actually about 208V after phase shift, but for all practical purposes > its > > the same thing, and depends on whether you use a wye or delta > > configuration in your transformer). So figure of speech it is. In an > > electic company FUD kind of way. > > > > > > Also, is there anyone on > > this list that operates a s/390 / z-series machine (preferably running > > linux) in a bank? If so, please contact me off list with information on > > how to open an account. I am having a problem with my current bank, > > Netbank, and after a bit of research, have found the reason. They > operate > > m$ servers. Go figure. > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > - > > > > | Phil Howard KA9WGN | http://linuxhomepage.com/ > http://ham.org/ | > > > | (first name) at ipal.net | http://phil.ipal.org/ > http://ka9wgn.ham.org/ | > > > > - > > > > > > > -- > > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 > or visit > > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > > > > > sleekfreak pirate broadcast > > http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ > > > > -- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [EMAIL PROTEC
Re: OT Mainframes (was: 9672 power requirements)
i was trying to cluster together some old pentiums that i rescued from the garbage. this was 2002 or so. then, unexplicably, the garage that i worked from got raided, but i got away with all of the disks out a window, hitchhikers guide style. i later collected the machines in the middle of the night, stashed them in a storage unit, and went travelling. which led me to the Internet Engineering Task Force conference in Atlanta, where I knew I could find friends that would help. Shortly thereafter I was again clustering machines, but this time at Linux Labs in atlanta, where I was eventually kicked out of for, among other things, not keeping office hours (i mostly only went at night, and had a tendancy to wander around the 27 story peachtree plaza office building in cut off shorts, a ragged shirt and no shoes), dating the CEO's sister, and smoking in the building. finding myself back home in daytona, I finally built the cluster that i wanted, only from better hardware than the pentium 100's, which I guess would be my true entry into the realm of high performance computing. several alphaservers later, i scored the 9672 and two sharks for a very small amount of someone elses money courtesy one military surplus auction. the shark didn't do what i wanted, so i put linux on it. when i get the 9672 powered, it will be my first supercomputer that i didn't build myself. enjoy, scott On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, John Campbell wrote: > The OS for the Xerox Sigma-7 (and Sigma-9s) was called "CP-V" (Control > Program five) and the JCL was, IIRC, called "PCL" (a "pickle deck"). > > Honeywell took over the 'puter business but didn't do much with it. > > The CEs had a diagnostic tape that included System EXercisers (which could > be launched by the command "SEX" or "NEW") and the first program on the > tape was called "hardcore" to ensure that all of the instructions in the > system still worked. > > Instead of Z EOD the operator typed "ZAP", the KSR-35 would do a little > dance and type out "THAT'S ALL FOLKS" and the CPU speaker would play the > Star Spangled Banner. > > (shakes head) It was a fun system. though there were some oddities. For > instance, CP-V could be crashed by running 256 B *+1s in a row (because the > CPU stalled in re-filling the pipeline and locked out the HS-RAD). > > "cat file" was spelled "copy file to me"... and it had the first > meta-assembler I've ever seen. I used to hand-assemble some programs and > toggle 'em in. I learned about channel programming on that beast. > > I went from those to TI-960s in late 1977 and then to UNIVAC 1100s in 1979. > > > John R. Campbell, Speaker to Machines (GNUrd) (813) 356-5322 (t/l 697) > Adsumo ergo raptus sum > MacOS X: Because making Unix user-friendly was easier than debugging > Windows. > Red Hat Certified Engineer (#803004680310286) > IBM Certified: IBM AIX 4.3 System Administration, System Support > - Forwarded by John Campbell/Tampa/IBM on 03/16/2005 11:45 AM - > > "Fargusson.Alan" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: > LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > tb.ca.gov> cc: > Sent by: Linux onSubject: Re: [LINUX-390] 9672 > power requirements > 390 Port > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > IST.EDU> > > > 03/16/2005 11:35 > AM > Please respond to > Linux on 390 Port > > > > > > I was going to ignore the "could heat your house" comment, but since David > didn't. > > I heard this second hand, so I don't know how true it is. I heard that > someone bought an old Sigma 7 and put it in his basement. Since it put out > a lot of heat he connected it up to his heating ducts and used the Sigma 7 > to heat his house. > > The Sigma computer systems were made by Sigma Data Systems, which was > bought by Xerox. Xerox eventually left the computer business leaving Sigma > customers without support. The university I graduated from had three Sigma > 9s that they were still using when I graduated. Actually one was for parts > for the other two. One of the professors there actually ported the Unix > PCC C compiler to the Sigma operating system (I can't remember what the OS > was called). > > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > David Boyes > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 5:47 AM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: 9672 power requirements > > > > At about 20 kbTU/hr, you could heat your house with it, too. > > Funny story: > > I can confirm this fact. This winter (which has been particularly cold > in the Washington DC area) our office furnace completely failed -- > totally casters-up, no function at all. The MP3000 and the other > processors here generate so much heat that no one noticed that the > heater was offline until som
Re: Debian touts dropping full dev for certain archit ectures (incl. S/390)
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Richard Pinion wrote: > I'm sure there are many banks in Nigeria that would love to open an > account for you. We're always getting emails from them trying to give > away money of some rich person who died and has no family. All you need > to do is give them your current bank account number! :) I get plenty of those too. Most of the packet headers actually originate in germany, if I remember correctly. I actually had someone try to scam me out of a digital alphaserver 2100 in a similar fashion. > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/16/05 09:43AM >>> > On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Phil Howard wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 07:23:24AM -0500, shogunx wrote: > > > > | On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Phil Howard wrote: > > | > > | > | That part I have. What I do not have is 3-phase power to run it. > > | > > > | > What voltage and amperage does it need? > > | > > | 3-phase 440V most likely about 20-30 amps. > > > > You'll need at least 25 kVA. That's as much power as a small house. Then > > add air conditioning. Not sure whether upgrading electric service or buying > > a generator would cost more. Maybe renting one long enough to see if it > > will power up could be done. What are your goals for it? > > > > Is it literally 440 volts, or is that just a figure of speech for what is > > officially 480 volts (if you are in the US)? > > Well, according to ohms law, it should work at 440, though with a higher > current draw. You are correct. 3-phase each phase 120 degrees out of > phase from the others at 120V per phase yields 3 discrete 240V circuits > (actually about 208V after phase shift, but for all practical purposes its > the same thing, and depends on whether you use a wye or delta > configuration in your transformer). So figure of speech it is. In an > electic company FUD kind of way. > > > Also, is there anyone on > this list that operates a s/390 / z-series machine (preferably running > linux) in a bank? If so, please contact me off list with information on > how to open an account. I am having a problem with my current bank, > Netbank, and after a bit of research, have found the reason. They operate > m$ servers. Go figure. > > Scott > > > > > > -- > > - > > | Phil Howard KA9WGN | http://linuxhomepage.com/ http://ham.org/ > > | > > | (first name) at ipal.net | http://phil.ipal.org/ http://ka9wgn.ham.org/ > > | > > - > > > > -- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > > sleekfreak pirate broadcast > http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > The information in this e-mail message, including any attachments, may > contain confidential and privileged information that is protected by > law. It is intended for the sole use of the recipient named above. If > you are not the intended recipient or the agent responsible for > delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that > any unauthorized review, use, dissemination or copying is strictly > prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail transmission in > error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > and delete any copies from your system. > > <<<>>> > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Debian touts dropping full dev for certain archit ectures (incl. S/390)
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Phil Howard wrote: > On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 07:23:24AM -0500, shogunx wrote: > > | On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Phil Howard wrote: > | > | > | That part I have. What I do not have is 3-phase power to run it. > | > > | > What voltage and amperage does it need? > | > | 3-phase 440V most likely about 20-30 amps. > > You'll need at least 25 kVA. That's as much power as a small house. Then > add air conditioning. Not sure whether upgrading electric service or buying > a generator would cost more. Maybe renting one long enough to see if it > will power up could be done. What are your goals for it? > > Is it literally 440 volts, or is that just a figure of speech for what is > officially 480 volts (if you are in the US)? Well, according to ohms law, it should work at 440, though with a higher current draw. You are correct. 3-phase each phase 120 degrees out of phase from the others at 120V per phase yields 3 discrete 240V circuits (actually about 208V after phase shift, but for all practical purposes its the same thing, and depends on whether you use a wye or delta configuration in your transformer). So figure of speech it is. In an electic company FUD kind of way. Also, is there anyone on this list that operates a s/390 / z-series machine (preferably running linux) in a bank? If so, please contact me off list with information on how to open an account. I am having a problem with my current bank, Netbank, and after a bit of research, have found the reason. They operate m$ servers. Go figure. Scott > > -- > - > | Phil Howard KA9WGN | http://linuxhomepage.com/ http://ham.org/ | > | (first name) at ipal.net | http://phil.ipal.org/ http://ka9wgn.ham.org/ | > - > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Debian touts dropping full dev for certain archit ectures (incl. S/390)
> > > > | That part I have. What I do not have is 3-phase power to run it. > > > > > > > > What voltage and amperage does it need? > > > > > > 3-phase 440V most likely about 20-30 amps. > > > > If originally installed in the US, it probably needs twin feeds, 208 > > volt 60 amp 3 wire with RussellStoll or Hubbell RS 460R9W receptacles. > It was originally installed in the pentagon. It has two 4 connector round plugs, one coming from each side of the first cabinet, which makes sense at one connector per phase and one earth ground. Pictures at http://gnuveau.net/s390/ > > > At about 20 kbTU/hr, you could heat your house with it, too. > The shark does a nice job of that by itself. I've had to install additional cooling to make it tolerable. Correct though, it is in my house. > > Scott > > > > -- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > > sleekfreak pirate broadcast > http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Debian touts dropping full dev for certain archit ectures (incl. S/390)
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Phil Howard wrote: > | That part I have. What I do not have is 3-phase power to run it. > > What voltage and amperage does it need? 3-phase 440V most likely about 20-30 amps. > > -- > - > | Phil Howard KA9WGN | http://linuxhomepage.com/ http://ham.org/ | > | (first name) at ipal.net | http://phil.ipal.org/ http://ka9wgn.ham.org/ | > - > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Debian touts dropping full dev for certain archit ectures (incl. S/390)
> > I would suspect that the biggest problem w/ supporting and doing testing on > the S/390 or zSeries architecture is that individuals (who'd be managing the > porting and/or testing process) won't *own* either an S/390 or zSeries. I own one. A Generation 5 9672 s/390. > > That being said, there are times when I wished I had a zSeries (or S/390) in > my back pocket to use... but I don't. > That part I have. What I do not have is 3-phase power to run it. > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SUSE SLES9 question
Hi all, I know this is probably the wrong place to post this, but I would be hard pressed to find a better set of individuals who may be interested. Some of you may have read from my previous posts of my port of gnu/linux to the ESS 2105 Shark. Having hit the stumbling block of no code to integrate into a kernel to drive the SerialRAID adapaters (IBM folks correct me if I'm wrong), I have decided to replace the entire disk subsystems in the two Sharks that I have, as I cannot acquire even specifications with which to write my own drivers. To facilitate such, I must sell the current disk subsystem parts( 64 x 36Gb 10K drives, 16 x 7133 rackmount enclosures, 16 x SerialRAID cards, and 16 x SSA cabling ). If anyone has interest, please contact me off-list. Thanks, and I will never post anything similar to this here again. Scott sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Putty users
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Thomas Kern wrote: I have wiped the nasty scourge of windows from my network. There are several different flavors of Linux, from RH7.2 to debian unstable to Slackware 9 to SLES 9 to gentoo. There is not one line of proprietary code here. > I have one of each. The Linux workstation also serves as my Linux FTP > server for installation materials. > > /Tom Kern > > --- "Kohrs, Steven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just out of curiosity, how many people are managing their Linux > > servers > > from a Windows workstation? How many from Linux workstations? How > > many > > from others? > > > > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Using ssh to execute a command on another system
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005, James Melin wrote: try netcat. > Got a question about ssh > > rexec provides an ability to execute a command on a remote system and pass > the ID/Password on the command line. This prevents the session from > prompting for a password. > > e.g: rexec -l username -p password hostname command > > the problem with rexec , of course, is that it is unsecure. > > ssh also allows command line invocation of a command on a remote system. > This is good, in that it will do the authentication encrypted. What I do > not know is how to do it all nice and neat from a script without being > challenged for a password. > > What I am looking to do is to ssh to a specific linux, execute a command, > capture the output of that command, parse that output and set some > variables and write out a 'status page' html file. I do not know how to > handle being asked for a password in a shell script. > > I've seen some stuff about the identity file, but that really isn't making > sense to me either and certainly seems like overkill for what I'm doing. > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: ### URGENT ### Please help - Kernel panic - can not mount root
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005, Ranga Nathan wrote: > We had a problem with Linux running in an LPAR today and we had to re-IPL. > But Linux would not come up. We get the message to this effect: > Kernel panic: can not mount root fs (reiserfs) > > Is there any IPL paramter or something we set up to examine and get a > successful IPL? where is the linux filesyystem? it sounds like either your /etc/fstab is incorrect, or something happened to your fillesystem. scott > Otherwise we need to recall our off-site backup and restore, which could > take a long time. > > Help appreciated. > __ > Ranga Nathan / CSG > Systems Programmer - Specialist; Technical Services; > BAX Global Inc. Irvine-California > Tel: 714-442-7591 Fax: 714-442-2840 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Another question..
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005, Rich Smrcina wrote: > If you want Linux on x86 to be the 'server' it will need to be the one > serving the shares (and has direct access to the shark with a SCSI > card). If you want Linux on x86 to be able to mount a share on a > Windows machine that has direct access to the shark, you would use the > mount command and need to provide the appropriate credentials to 'sign > on' to the Windows server. My question is why is there a windows machine in the mix anyway? The shark could export nfs shares across any layer 1, ethernet, ficon, whatever, while mounting from any *nix capable of supporting nfs. > > I do not know the format of the mount command off hand. It should be > well documented on the Samba web site. David Boyes sent out this link > to the Samba3 HOW-TO Collection earlier this summer: > here it is for nfs, to be placed in /etc/fstab: templis:/archive/mp3 /archive/mp3 nfs owner,exec,dev,suid,rw,rsize=8192,wsize=8192 0 1 Scott > http://samba.org/samba/docs > > Noll, Ralph wrote: > > Yea that something. How do I make linux on x86 do that??? > > > > Thanks > > > > Ralph > > > > > -- > Rich Smrcina > illustro Systems International, LLC > --- See The Light--- > Visit www.illustro.com to experience: > z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe > z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe > > Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 > > Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org > WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Another question..
On Sat, 1 Jan 2005, Noll, Ralph wrote: > Yea that something. How do I make linux on x86 do that??? Well, I wouldn't use the smb protocol to do it, but you are essentially mounting a remote filesystem. NFS does a quite nice job of it. > > Thanks > > Ralph > > -Original Message- > From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 2:47 PM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: Another question.. > > Something that has direct access to the Shark and is serving out the > shares will be the 'target' of the mount command. I don't have the > exact syntax handy, but it would be something like: > > mount -t smb ipaddress/sharename -o username=userid password=password > > the smbmount man page should have more information. > > Noll, Ralph wrote: > > Yea.. I am looking for the smb mount NOT the scsi.. > > > > So how do I carv out 30...40...20gb from a shark and mount With mount > > -t. > > > > Ralph > > > > > > > -- > Rich Smrcina > illustro Systems International, LLC > --- See The Light--- Visit www.illustro.com to > experience: > z/Web-Host -- Easy Web-enabling for your Mainframe > z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe > > Tel: +1.214.800.8900 Fax: +1.214.800.8989 > > Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org > WAVV 2005 - Colorado Springs - May 20-24, 2005 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: 2105
On Sat, 1 Jan 2005, Peter E. Abresch Jr. - at Pepco wrote: You accessed the ssa disk system on the 2105 from other hosts, correct? What I am trying to do is install linux on the scsi disk in the system cage(cluster bay). So that instead of booting AIX to provide a fileserver to another host, it will boot linux on the 4 ps64-II's in each cluster bay. I might perhaps use nfs or such to provide a fileserver to the 9672, or my openmosix cluster, or both, but I think such hosts are wasted only as a SAN. Just my opinion. At very least they could be MPICH'ed to add available processing power to the alphas here. I'm thinking perhaps a kernel patched with the ppc64 patches then crosscompiled and put onto a boot floppy might work, taking advantage of the 2105's need for a boot floppy to reinstall AIX. If I can load a linux kernel on the floppy instead of the disk that the repair menu is asking for, then it should work grandly. The only issue I see is the kernel modules for the ssa controllers. Hopefully IBM will provide the source for such. After that is done then I get to wind the transformer to provide the 3-phase to the 9672. > We use SuSE 8.1 SP03 31-bit Linux running in two IBM 2066-002 native LPARs > connected to the IBM ESS 2105 w/ FICON and sharing the DASD with 4 z/OS > LPARs and one z/VM LPAR. The z/VM LPAR is running 2 Linux guests that are > utilizing the IBM 2105 DASD as well. We reboot our Linux Systems once a > week and take a flashcopy of its DASD before starting it back up. This > takes about 8 seconds. We use FDR to take full volume backups at our > convenience after Linux is back up and operational. Hope this helps. > > To install it, we used the CD drive in the IBM 2066-002?s HMC. I have also > installed it from my desktop running a WARFTP server with no problems. > > Now, I do not know if any of this helps you out, but I hope it does. > > Peter > > > > shogunx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent by: Linux on 390 Port > 01/01/2005 11:17 AM > Please respond to > Linux on 390 Port > > > To > LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > cc > > Subject > Re: 2105 > > > > > > > On Wed, 29 Dec 2004, Peter E. Abresch Jr. - at Pepco wrote: > > > We have, had no problems, we use flashcopy for backups. It all works > > great. > > What distribution did you implement? It seems that the ppc64 kernel is > the only one that would work, given the ps64-II's in the shark. I am able > to get to the point of aix installation (serial terminal on S1, keyboard > interrupt during splash rs/6000 display). Should I just use > "boot-floppies" at that point, or is there another vector to get it to > boot a linux kernel? > > Scott > > > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > shogunx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent by: Linux on 390 Port > > 12/29/2004 06:02 PM > > Please respond to > > Linux on 390 Port > > > > > > To > > LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > > cc > > > > Subject > > 2105 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > Has anyone here natively installed linux on an ess 2105? > > > > Thanks, > > Scott > > > > -- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > > visit > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > > > > -- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > > sleekfreak pirate broadcast > http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: 2105
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004, Peter E. Abresch Jr. - at Pepco wrote: > We have, had no problems, we use flashcopy for backups. It all works > great. What distribution did you implement? It seems that the ppc64 kernel is the only one that would work, given the ps64-II's in the shark. I am able to get to the point of aix installation (serial terminal on S1, keyboard interrupt during splash rs/6000 display). Should I just use "boot-floppies" at that point, or is there another vector to get it to boot a linux kernel? Scott > > Peter > > > > shogunx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent by: Linux on 390 Port > 12/29/2004 06:02 PM > Please respond to > Linux on 390 Port > > > To > LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > cc > > Subject > 2105 > > > > > > > Hi All, > > Has anyone here natively installed linux on an ess 2105? > > Thanks, > Scott > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: 2105
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004, Noll, Ralph wrote: > Yepjust like any other dasd No, I mean standalone, without being connected to another host, or a 9672, running linux instead of AIX. Those cluster hosts are pretty significantly powerful smp machies by themselves. It would be a shame to waste that computing power on disk i/o only. > > -Original Message- > From: shogunx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 5:02 PM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: 2105 > > Hi All, > > Has anyone here natively installed linux on an ess 2105? > > Thanks, > Scott > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
2105
Hi All, Has anyone here natively installed linux on an ess 2105? Thanks, Scott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
