Re: Fedora-DS on Linux for SYstem z
On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 07:19 +0800, John Summerfield wrote: Massimiliano Belardi wrote: Hi Guys, does anybody know if Fedora-DS is included on RedHat for Linux distribution? Anybody tryied to compile it from source to System z platform? Thanks Max I did a bit of digging around, and concluded that when it's released for RHEL it will be Red Hat Directory Server. I also concluded that releases are distressingly infrequent:-( Perhaps if some here joined a list and started asking questions about DS on Z, it would inspire some more interest. -- Cheers John In addition to the list, please feel free to send me any requests offline if you're interested in seeing this released. Thanks, -Brad -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please do not reply off-list -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Brad Hinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sr. Support Engineer Lead, System z Red Hat, Inc. (919) 754-4198 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Fedora-DS on Linux for SYstem z
Hi Guys, does anybody know if Fedora-DS is included on RedHat for Linux distribution? Anybody tryied to compile it from source to System z platform? Thanks Max -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Fedora-DS on Linux for SYstem z
On Thu, Sep 6, 2007 at 6:05 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Massimiliano Belardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, does anybody know if Fedora-DS is included on RedHat for Linux distribution? Anybody tryied to compile it from source to System z platform? What is it? If the package name contains the string fed then I didn't see it on the RHEL5 DVD. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Fedora-DS on Linux for SYstem z
Fedora-DS is Fedora Directory Server, an open-source LDAP server. That is all I know. Tom Shilson Powered by Penguins Unix Team / IT Server Services Tel: 651-733-7591 tshilson at mmm dot com Fax: 651-736-7689 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Fedora-DS on Linux for SYstem z
Mark Post ha scritto: On Thu, Sep 6, 2007 at 6:05 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Massimiliano Belardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, does anybody know if Fedora-DS is included on RedHat for Linux distribution? Anybody tryied to compile it from source to System z platform? What is it? If the package name contains the string fed then I didn't see it on the RHEL5 DVD. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Is the Directory Server... http://directory.fedoraproject.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Fedora-DS on Linux for SYstem z
What is it? If the package name contains the string fed then I didn't see it on the RHEL5 DVD. http://www.directory.fedora.redhat.com/wiki/Documentation It does build cleanly from source on RHEL5 (although it takes a gawd-awful amount of CPU to do it -- *definitely* don't do this during the day if you don't have CPU to burn). As to what it does, it's basically an integrated LDAP server that makes things like replicating from Active Directory and gives you Linux based management tools for the environment, so the Linux and Windows environment can get along better. The tools are still a bit flaky in places, but it's got lots of docs and seems to work OK. At some point, it'd probably be worth creating an appliance out of this thing as an integration point to ease transition to Linux-based environments. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Fedora-DS on Linux for SYstem z
On Thu, Sep 6, 2007 at 10:24 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tom Shilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fedora-DS is Fedora Directory Server, an open-source LDAP server. That is all I know. Tom, Thanks. I found the package on the Fedora download page. The name starts with fedora-ds so it doesn't seem to be on RHEL5. I tried to build it from source on one of my Slack/390 systems, but it wanted at least one package I don't build, which is the Mozilla LDAP SDK. So, I can't say if it will build cleanly on s390/s390x or not. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Fedora-DS on Linux for SYstem z
On Sep 6, 2007, at 7:24 AM, Tom Shilson wrote: Fedora-DS is Fedora Directory Server, an open-source LDAP server. That is all I know. If it's not, OpenLDAP is certainly available and works quite well. Adam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Fedora-DS on Linux for SYstem z
-Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 9:57 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Fedora-DS on Linux for SYstem z What is it? If the package name contains the string fed then I didn't see it on the RHEL5 DVD. http://www.directory.fedora.redhat.com/wiki/Documentation It does build cleanly from source on RHEL5 (although it takes a gawd-awful amount of CPU to do it -- *definitely* don't do this during the day if you don't have CPU to burn). As to what it does, it's basically an integrated LDAP server that makes things like replicating from Active Directory and gives you Linux based management tools for the environment, so the Linux and Windows environment can get along better. The tools are still a bit flaky in places, but it's got lots of docs and seems to work OK. At some point, it'd probably be worth creating an appliance out of this thing as an integration point to ease transition to Linux-based environments. Would this be a case for having a z/Linux hosted on Hercules/390 on a x86 platform? I don't see the need for the reliability and scalability for this sort of thing. This test environment could be accessable via NFS or some other method to actually copy compiled modules to the real System z environment. Of course, it would not be useful for actual system level testing, but for just compiling and initial testing, it might be useful. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Fedora-DS on Linux for SYstem z
On Thu, Sep 6, 2007 at 10:56 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- http://www.directory.fedora.redhat.com/wiki/Documentation It does build cleanly from source on RHEL5 (although it takes a gawd-awful amount of CPU to do it -- *definitely* don't do this during the day if you don't have CPU to burn). I suspect that's because this is the rebranding of the Netscape Directory Server that Red Hat bought so many moons ago. (Hence the reliance on so many thinks like nspr, nss, Mozilla LDAP SDK, etc.) As one who's built Netscape/Mozilla packages any number of times, I can tell you they _all_ suck CPU horribly. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Fedora-DS on Linux for SYstem z
On Thu, Sep 6, 2007 at 12:32 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- Would this be a case for having a z/Linux hosted on Hercules/390 on a x86 platform? I don't see the need for the reliability and scalability for this sort of thing. This test environment could be accessable via NFS or some other method to actually copy compiled modules to the real System z environment. Of course, it would not be useful for actual system level testing, but for just compiling and initial testing, it might be useful. I would say no. It would be far better to do cross-compiles, rather than emulating an entire architecure to do native compiles. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Fedora-DS on Linux for SYstem z
Would this be a case for having a z/Linux hosted on Hercules/390 on a x86 platform? I don't see the need for the reliability and scalability for this sort of thing. I would say that something like a Fedora-DS appliance probably isn't the place you'd make that argument. If you're going to do something like that involving any Intel system, you should skip the 390 emulation and just do it directly on the Intel system. Directory servers are usually high-utilization boxes, particularly busy ones that also host the database back end. Wrt to using Herc on Intel boxes as a compile farm, again, just use the cross-compilation tools that are already in gcc and run it native. Gcc has the capability to generate object code for any architecture it supports (provided you have the right libraries and header files available) as part of the basic structure of the compiler. You don't need to emulate the entire environment if you're just going to build modules (and it's a lot faster that way). Of course, it would not be useful for actual system level testing, but for just compiling and initial testing, it might be useful. For general experimentation, maybe. Otherwise, get z/VM. It's a more effective way to do testing, and you can just go and deploy it via DDR once you're done. Now, if we're convincing IBM to license VM on Herc, that's a different story...8-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Fedora-DS on Linux for SYstem z
I suspect that's because this is the rebranding of the Netscape Directory Server that Red Hat bought so many moons ago. Ah. Yes, that would explain the distinct odor of frying bacon from the machine room. Playing with it, it's actually kind of nice -- the UI is something that could be loosed on an unwary Windows admin without a lot of re-education. Goes well with our clustered MySQL appliance with a little tinkering. - db -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Fedora-DS on Linux for SYstem z
Boy, I haven't heard it called a machine room for eons. You are showing your age here, David. G Kevin -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:44 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Fedora-DS on Linux for SYstem z I suspect that's because this is the rebranding of the Netscape Directory Server that Red Hat bought so many moons ago. Ah. Yes, that would explain the distinct odor of frying bacon from the machine room. Playing with it, it's actually kind of nice -- the UI is something that could be loosed on an unwary Windows admin without a lot of re-education. Goes well with our clustered MySQL appliance with a little tinkering. - db -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Fedora-DS on Linux for SYstem z
Boy, I haven't heard it called a machine room for eons. You are showing your age here, David. G Vintage, laddie, vintage. I *improve* with age, particularly when influenced by bottles... 8-) -- db -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Fedora-DS on Linux for SYstem z
Believe me, I speak vintage also g K -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 1:16 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Fedora-DS on Linux for SYstem z Boy, I haven't heard it called a machine room for eons. You are showing your age here, David. G Vintage, laddie, vintage. I *improve* with age, particularly when influenced by bottles... 8-) -- db -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Fedora-DS on Linux for SYstem z
Massimiliano Belardi wrote: Hi Guys, does anybody know if Fedora-DS is included on RedHat for Linux distribution? Anybody tryied to compile it from source to System z platform? Thanks Max I did a bit of digging around, and concluded that when it's released for RHEL it will be Red Hat Directory Server. I also concluded that releases are distressingly infrequent:-( Perhaps if some here joined a list and started asking questions about DS on Z, it would inspire some more interest. -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please do not reply off-list -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
