Re: New z9 models
It was *all* of the Zork games. Jon snip Or you are likely to be eaten by a grue - wait, that might be a Zork game. /snip -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
Sorry guys, you all fail your nerd check. You all take -3 to your Charisma for the rest of the evening, and Chuckie takes -5 since he has the Caustic personality trait. And 2d10 Sanity loss for Mythos knowledge. -- d b the horror... the horror. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
Jon Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somebody let me know when they get around to cargo class. =20 Jon They are working on it, see IBM Redbook SG24-7124, IBM System z9 109 Technical Guiode, p. 217: The Redundant I/O Interconnect (RII) function now provides for redundant STI connectivity to all installed I/O domains in all cargo cages. Freundliche Gruesse, Klaus Bergmann Linux Performance, IBM Lab Boeblingen -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
On Friday, 04/28/2006 at 10:05 EST, Tom Duerbusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know we are all virtual...really... But in what universe can you have a 20 sided dice? The pursuit of a 20 sided dice, would make the pursuit of free beer look as easy as turning on the tap (for those of us that don't work at a brewery). Dude! You never played Dungeons Dragons? Two 20-sided dice (icosahedra) give you a number between 00 and 99 with an even probability distribution. Picture at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icosahedron. Octahedra and dodecahedra (12-sided) are used as well. We even occasionally used the more famous hexahedron. I thought all computer geeks played DD :-) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
I know we are all virtual...really... But in what universe can you have a 20 sided dice? The pursuit of a 20 sided dice, would make the pursuit of free beer look as easy as turning on the tap (for those of us that don't work at a brewery). Any gaming store (or other store that sells DD stuff or the like) will sell you dice in all the classical polyhedral perfect forms (tetrahedron (4), cube (6), octahedron (8), isocohedron (12), dodecahedron (20)) in any assortment of clear, solid or nifty colors. Shouldn't cost you more than about 5-6 bucks. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
I even saw a 100-sided die one time. It looked a lot like a large golf ball. Took forever to stop rolling. Jon /snip Dude! You never played Dungeons Dragons? Two 20-sided dice (icosahedra) give you a number between 00 and 99 with an even probability distribution. Picture at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icosahedron. Octahedra and dodecahedra (12-sided) are used as well. We even occasionally used the more famous hexahedron. I thought all computer geeks played DD :-) /snip -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
On Apr 28, 2006, at 10:05 AM, Tom Duerbusch wrote: I know we are all virtual...really... But in what universe can you have a 20 sided dice? The pursuit of a 20 sided dice, would make the pursuit of free beer look as easy as turning on the tap (for those of us that don't work at a brewery). Try The Fantasy Shop; several locations around St. Louis, including one immediately across the street from the Schlafly Brewery. They have a wide selection of d20s as well as d4, d8, and d12 for your gaming pleasure. Adam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
On Apr 28, 2006, at 11:51 AM, Alan Altmark wrote: On Friday, 04/28/2006 at 10:05 EST, Tom Duerbusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know we are all virtual...really... But in what universe can you have a 20 sided dice? The pursuit of a 20 sided dice, would make the pursuit of free beer look as easy as turning on the tap (for those of us that don't work at a brewery). Dude! You never played Dungeons Dragons? Two 20-sided dice (icosahedra) give you a number between 00 and 99 with an even probability distribution. Picture at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icosahedron. Octahedra and dodecahedra (12-sided) are used as well. We even occasionally used the more famous hexahedron. Used? I don't use the past tense when talking about DD. Adam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
Tom, You haven't played DD, have you? Originally, there were 4-, 6-, 8-, 12-, and 20-sided dice. Those shapes are the only five regular geometric solids, meaning that each side of the die is itself an equilateral shape, such as a triangle (4-, 8-, and 20-sided), square (6-sided), or pentagon (12-sided). 10-, 30-, and 100-sided dice were introduced later, but they aren't regular geometric solids. Newer 4-sided dice have the corners clipped off, because the earlier ones in high-impact plastic made great caltrops. Many newer games, such as Champions and Fantasy Hero, use only 6-sided dice. Dennis LOADING, PLEASE WAIT... -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Duerbusch Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 08:06 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: New z9 models I know we are all virtual...really... But in what universe can you have a 20 sided dice? The pursuit of a 20 sided dice, would make the pursuit of free beer look as easy as turning on the tap (for those of us that don't work at a brewery). There must of been some delays in the new hardware. It is end of month, and it is not Tuesday. Just snuck this one out, under the door. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/27/2006 11:10 AM On Thursday, 04/27/2006 at 10:42 EST, James Melin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always thought the IBM machine labeling closely coinceded with a change in VP of marketing. Or is it something like how they determine when Easter is? Actual naming is very complex. Multi-colored wheels with spinners, 20 4-sided dice, and 4 20-sided dice are involved. (I think the 20-sided dice explain why certain letters never appear in product names.) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
Nope... Some of us are too old for that, but we did play Adventure on VM... maze of twisty turny little passages all different. No graphics, just keystrokes and imagination. Joe Temple Distinguished Engineer Sr. Certified IT Specialist [EMAIL PROTECTED] 845-435-6301 295/6301 cell 914-706-5211 Home office 845-338-1448 Home 845-338-8794 Alan Altmark/Endicott/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Sent by: Linux on LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 390 Port cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU Subject Re: New z9 models 04/28/2006 12:51 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU On Friday, 04/28/2006 at 10:05 EST, Tom Duerbusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know we are all virtual...really... But in what universe can you have a 20 sided dice? The pursuit of a 20 sided dice, would make the pursuit of free beer look as easy as turning on the tap (for those of us that don't work at a brewery). Dude! You never played Dungeons Dragons? Two 20-sided dice (icosahedra) give you a number between 00 and 99 with an even probability distribution. Picture at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icosahedron. Octahedra and dodecahedra (12-sided) are used as well. We even occasionally used the more famous hexahedron. I thought all computer geeks played DD :-) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
I don't recall DD being available on the 370. Must be a younger generation type of thing. Now, I did write a Star Trek game that was very popular at the University for TSO And a console monitor back in '73. But that was used to spy on the central facility Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/28/2006 11:51 AM On Friday, 04/28/2006 at 10:05 EST, Tom Duerbusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know we are all virtual...really... But in what universe can you have a 20 sided dice? The pursuit of a 20 sided dice, would make the pursuit of free beer look as easy as turning on the tap (for those of us that don't work at a brewery). Dude! You never played Dungeons Dragons? Two 20-sided dice (icosahedra) give you a number between 00 and 99 with an even probability distribution. Picture at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icosahedron. Octahedra and dodecahedra (12-sided) are used as well. We even occasionally used the more famous hexahedron. I thought all computer geeks played DD :-) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
OT: Dice and DD (was RE: New z9 models)
If you want to combine your computer geekiness with DD, there's DD Online. I haven't played it yet, but a couple of my friends are playing. They're trying to get me to switch over from EverQuest. There's a free trial download at ddo.com. Dennis LOADING, PLEASE WAIT... -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 09:52 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: New z9 models On Friday, 04/28/2006 at 10:05 EST, Tom Duerbusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know we are all virtual...really... But in what universe can you have a 20 sided dice? The pursuit of a 20 sided dice, would make the pursuit of free beer look as easy as turning on the tap (for those of us that don't work at a brewery). Dude! You never played Dungeons Dragons? Two 20-sided dice (icosahedra) give you a number between 00 and 99 with an even probability distribution. Picture at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icosahedron. Octahedra and dodecahedra (12-sided) are used as well. We even occasionally used the more famous hexahedron. I thought all computer geeks played DD :-) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
-Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Thornton Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 1:46 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: New z9 models On Apr 28, 2006, at 10:05 AM, Tom Duerbusch wrote: I know we are all virtual...really... But in what universe can you have a 20 sided dice? The pursuit of a 20 sided dice, would make the pursuit of free beer look as easy as turning on the tap (for those of us that don't work at a brewery). Try The Fantasy Shop; several locations around St. Louis, including one immediately across the street from the Schlafly Brewery. They have a wide selection of d20s as well as d4, d8, and d12 for your gaming pleasure. Adam Sure, everybody has those! But just try to find a d1! They look at you strange grin. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
One time at band camp I saw a moebius strip die, I think it had 1 side. It was blue or red. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
roll roll Sorry guys, you all fail your nerd check. You all take -3 to your Charisma for the rest of the evening, and Chuckie takes -5 since he has the Caustic personality trait. -- Jay Brenneman -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
I thought all computer geeks played DD :-) Certainly all the schizophrenic ones :)) Mike MacIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] (845) 433-7061 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
Or you are likely to be eaten by a grue - wait, that might be a Zork game. We had Lunar Lander in FORTRAN for TSO here, but it probably holds the distinction of being the first computer game removed from the premises. Despite being the home of the space program, and despite space travel being the ultimate in transportation, the powers that be didn't see its relevance to the Department of Transportation. Go figure. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 Joseph Temple [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 04/28/2006 02:59 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: New z9 models Nope... Some of us are too old for that, but we did play Adventure on VM... maze of twisty turny little passages all different. No graphics, just keystrokes and imagination. Joe Temple Distinguished Engineer Sr. Certified IT Specialist [EMAIL PROTECTED] 845-435-6301 295/6301 cell 914-706-5211 Home office 845-338-1448 Home 845-338-8794 Alan Altmark/Endicott/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Sent by: Linux on LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 390 Port cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU Subject Re: New z9 models 04/28/2006 12:51 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU On Friday, 04/28/2006 at 10:05 EST, Tom Duerbusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know we are all virtual...really... But in what universe can you have a 20 sided dice? The pursuit of a 20 sided dice, would make the pursuit of free beer look as easy as turning on the tap (for those of us that don't work at a brewery). Dude! You never played Dungeons Dragons? Two 20-sided dice (icosahedra) give you a number between 00 and 99 with an even probability distribution. Picture at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icosahedron. Octahedra and dodecahedra (12-sided) are used as well. We even occasionally used the more famous hexahedron. I thought all computer geeks played DD :-) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
Sure, everybody has those! But just try to find a d1! They look at you strange grin. I believe I saw those in the Moebius catalog, didn't I? For when you need a truly non-random number. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
On Apr 28, 2006, at 2:21 PM, Tom Duerbusch wrote: I don't recall DD being available on the 370. Must be a younger generation type of thing. It's not a computer game. You actually sit around a table with your friends and dice and pieces of paper and pencils. It's very quaint, so I hear. An absolutely typical gaming session, at least if you're an ELITE GAMER, is at http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7521044027821122670 Text adventures, however, are alive and well. Usenet newsgroups rec.arts.int-fiction and rec.games.int-fiction are a good place to start, as is the repository at ftp.ifarchive.org. Or even http://www.ifarchive.org/ if you don't mind the Web. Adam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
I could be wrong but as I remember DD is about 2 years older than Adventure. You are lost in a maze of twisty turny little passages all the same. Watch out for the Dwarf. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope... Some of us are too old for that, but we did play Adventure on VM... maze of twisty turny little passages all different. No graphics, just keystrokes and imagination. Joe Temple Distinguished Engineer Sr. Certified IT Specialist [EMAIL PROTECTED] 845-435-6301 295/6301 cell 914-706-5211 Home office 845-338-1448 Home 845-338-8794 -- Stephen Frazier Information Technology Unit Oklahoma Department of Corrections 3400 Martin Luther King Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298 Tel.: (405) 425-2549 Fax: (405) 425-2554 Pager: (405) 690-1828 email: stevef%doc.state.ok.us -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
Jim Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9bc/ http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9ec/ And for those of us who are old enough to remember, this does not derive from BC Mode (S/360) or EC Mode (S/370)! IBM System z9 EC Enterprise Class (formerly IBM System z9 109) IBM System z9 BC Business Class Ah, two years have already passed. Time for the biennial IBM machine renumbering. Sigh. Hannes -- Dr. Hannes Reinecke [EMAIL PROTECTED] SuSE Linux Products GmbHS390 zSeries Maxfeldstraße 5 +49 911 74053 688 90409 Nürnberg http://www.suse.de -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9bc/ http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9ec/ And for those of us who are old enough to remember, this does not derive from BC Mode (S/360) or EC Mode (S/370)! IBM System z9 EC Enterprise Class (formerly IBM System z9 109) IBM System z9 BC Business Class You can think of the z9 EC has the follow-on to the z990 and the z9 BC as the follow-on to the z890. Jim -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
I always thought the IBM machine labeling closely coinceded with a change in VP of marketing. Or is it something like how they determine when Easter is? Hannes Reinecke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc 04/27/2006 09:57 AM Subject Re: New z9 models Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Jim Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9bc/ http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9ec/ And for those of us who are old enough to remember, this does not derive from BC Mode (S/360) or EC Mode (S/370)! IBM System z9 EC Enterprise Class (formerly IBM System z9 109) IBM System z9 BC Business Class Ah, two years have already passed. Time for the biennial IBM machine renumbering. Sigh. Hannes -- Dr. Hannes Reinecke[EMAIL PROTECTED] SuSE Linux Products GmbH S390 zSeries Maxfeldstraße 5 +49 911 74053 688 90409 Nürnberg http://www.suse.de -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
Ah, two years have already passed. Time for the biennial IBM machine renumbering. Hannes: Actually, z9-109 was announced July 2006 so that name did not last even 1 year! Jim -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
On Thursday, 04/27/2006 at 10:42 EST, James Melin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always thought the IBM machine labeling closely coinceded with a change in VP of marketing. Or is it something like how they determine when Easter is? Actual naming is very complex. Multi-colored wheels with spinners, 20 4-sided dice, and 4 20-sided dice are involved. (I think the 20-sided dice explain why certain letters never appear in product names.) Calendars are not normally used except to the extent IBMers cut up the month names into individual letters and then send them through an oscillating fan. This provides one half of the name. The other half is more, shall we say, intuitive in nature. There are entrails and coffee grounds to be examined, comets to be charted, and incense to be burned. The results of these New Age elements are combined with an Old World, but widely recognized, component: Tana leaves. The following morning, locust shells are found in the shape of the letters and numbers that comprise the name. Change in VP marketing. Please. That's the silliest thing I have heard in a long time -- Chuckie -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
Don't you just hate when you correct something in writing and induce another error? Actually, z9-109 was announced July *2006* so that name did not last even 1 year! Jim meant 2005. Bob Richards VP, Enterprise Technologist Enterprise Technology Infrastructure SunTrust Banks, Inc. (404) 575-2798 Seeing beyond money (sm) -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 11:56 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject:Re: New z9 models Ah, two years have already passed. Time for the biennial IBM machine renumbering. Hannes: Actually, z9-109 was announced July 2006 so that name did not last even 1 year! Jim LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Seeing Beyond Money is a service mark of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
I was thinking a better naming nomenclature would have been z9 First Class and z9 Business Class. Then we could have all waited for the z9 Coach Class. Oh well, Scott L. Sun Microsystems -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Melin Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:42 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: New z9 models I always thought the IBM machine labeling closely coinceded with a change in VP of marketing. Or is it something like how they determine when Easter is? Hannes Reinecke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc 04/27/2006 09:57 AM Subject Re: New z9 models Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Jim Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9bc/ http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9ec/ And for those of us who are old enough to remember, this does not derive from BC Mode (S/360) or EC Mode (S/370)! IBM System z9 EC Enterprise Class (formerly IBM System z9 109) IBM System z9 BC Business Class Ah, two years have already passed. Time for the biennial IBM machine renumbering. Sigh. Hannes -- Dr. Hannes Reinecke[EMAIL PROTECTED] SuSE Linux Products GmbH S390 zSeries Maxfeldstraße 5 +49 911 74053 688 90409 Nürnberg http://www.suse.de -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
Would we get meals with the z9-FC and BC machines? Betsie -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ledbetter, Scott E Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:07 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: New z9 models I was thinking a better naming nomenclature would have been z9 First Class and z9 Business Class. Then we could have all waited for the z9 Coach Class. Oh well, Scott L. Sun Microsystems -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Melin Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:42 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: New z9 models I always thought the IBM machine labeling closely coinceded with a change in VP of marketing. Or is it something like how they determine when Easter is? Hannes Reinecke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc 04/27/2006 09:57 AM Subject Re: New z9 models Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Jim Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9bc/ http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9ec/ And for those of us who are old enough to remember, this does not derive from BC Mode (S/360) or EC Mode (S/370)! IBM System z9 EC Enterprise Class (formerly IBM System z9 109) IBM System z9 BC Business Class Ah, two years have already passed. Time for the biennial IBM machine renumbering. Sigh. Hannes -- Dr. Hannes Reinecke[EMAIL PROTECTED] SuSE Linux Products GmbH S390 zSeries Maxfeldstraße 5 +49 911 74053 688 90409 Nürnberg http://www.suse.de -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
On Apr 27, 2006, at 11:10 AM, Alan Altmark wrote: Actual naming is very complex. Multi-colored wheels with spinners, 20 4-sided dice, and 4 20-sided dice are involved. (I think the 20-sided dice explain why certain letters never appear in product names.) Does that mean that the z9BC is a 6 Hit Die Aberration? Adam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
OT: RE: New z9 models
Would we get meals with the z9-FC and BC machines? No, the machine's just a little bit wider, and the covers recline 3 more inches. You still don't get a blanket, and there's still only peanuts. 8-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
Somebody let me know when they get around to cargo class. Jon -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 1:07 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: OT: RE: New z9 models Would we get meals with the z9-FC and BC machines? No, the machine's just a little bit wider, and the covers recline 3 more inches. You still don't get a blanket, and there's still only peanuts. 8-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Adam Thornton wrote: On Apr 27, 2006, at 11:10 AM, Alan Altmark wrote: Actual naming is very complex. Multi-colored wheels with spinners, 20 4-sided dice, and 4 20-sided dice are involved. (I think the 20-sided dice explain why certain letters never appear in product names.) Does that mean that the z9BC is a 6 Hit Die Aberration? No. Mainframes start at level one with 3d10 hit points per processor. Adam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
I think we'll see z9-DC3, and they'll be based in older out-of-the-way data centers, held together with baling wire and hope, but delivering the goods all over the place and sometimes under the radar. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 Jon Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 04/27/2006 01:17 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: New z9 models Somebody let me know when they get around to cargo class. Jon -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 1:07 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: OT: RE: New z9 models Would we get meals with the z9-FC and BC machines? No, the machine's just a little bit wider, and the covers recline 3 more inches. You still don't get a blanket, and there's still only peanuts. 8-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
will they be like the z9-C47's. Frank Tim Hare [EMAIL PROTECTED] te.fl.us To Sent by: Linux on LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 390 Port cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU Subject Re: New z9 models 04/27/2006 03:28 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU I think we'll see z9-DC3, and they'll be based in older out-of-the-way data centers, held together with baling wire and hope, but delivering the goods all over the place and sometimes under the radar. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 Jon Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 04/27/2006 01:17 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: New z9 models Somebody let me know when they get around to cargo class. Jon -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 1:07 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: OT: RE: New z9 models Would we get meals with the z9-FC and BC machines? No, the machine's just a little bit wider, and the covers recline 3 more inches. You still don't get a blanket, and there's still only peanuts. 8-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
Yes, except the C-47s will be available only in Army Drab.but both models will have the same advanced rotatory processors.;-) DJ Frank Gowdey/Admin/Avery/MCS wrote: will they be like the z9-C47's. Frank Tim Hare [EMAIL PROTECTED] te.fl.us To Sent by: Linux on LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 390 Port cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU Subject Re: New z9 models 04/27/2006 03:28 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU I think we'll see z9-DC3, and they'll be based in older out-of-the-way data centers, held together with baling wire and hope, but delivering the goods all over the place and sometimes under the radar. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 Jon Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 04/27/2006 01:17 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: New z9 models Somebody let me know when they get around to cargo class. Jon -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 1:07 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: OT: RE: New z9 models Would we get meals with the z9-FC and BC machines? No, the machine's just a little bit wider, and the covers recline 3 more inches. You still don't get a blanket, and there's still only peanuts. 8-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
