Re: SUSE 10 in LPAR Mode
Hi Larry The best move I made when starting down this road was to get a old PC and install Linux on it and use it a an FTP/NFS server and as a general learning box. I also found the Redbooks and Mike MacIssac scripts very helful. Regards Gerard Ceruti -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin, Larry D Sent: 05 July 2007 02:03 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: SUSE 10 in LPAR Mode Looking for help. This is my first attempt at Linux on the mainframe. I have a trial copy of SUSE 10 and am trying to install it into an LPAR on a Z890. I have built an IPL Tape and that works. When trying to build the system I need to access the INSTALL folder at an FTP site. I have that on a Windows 2000 server but all I can get is image not found. Can someone give me any insight as to what the response to the Enter the directory on the server should look like? I have no CDROM available. I also tried NFS from a z/OS 1.7 system with similar results. Thanks, Larry Martin .. This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Prince George’s County Government or Prince George's County 7th Judicial Circuit Court proprietary information, which is privileged and confidential. This E-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this E-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or action taken in relation to the contents of and attachments to this E-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of this E-mail and any printout. __ Standard Bank Disclaimer and Confidentiality Note This e-mail, its attachments and any rights attaching hereto are, unless the context clearly indicates otherwise, the property of Standard Bank Group Limited and/or its subsidiaries (the Group). It is confidential, private and intended for the addressee only. Should you not be the addressee and receive this e-mail by mistake, kindly notify the sender, and delete this e-mail, immediately and do not disclose or use same in any manner whatsoever. Views and opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender unless clearly stated as those of the Group. The Group accepts no liability whatsoever for any loss or damages whatsoever and howsoever incurred, or suffered, resulting, or arising, from the use of this email or its attachments. The Group does not warrant the integrity of this e-mail nor that it is free of errors, viruses, interception or interference. Licensed divisions of the Standard Bank Group are authorised financial services providers in terms of the Financial Advisory and Intermediary Services Act, No 37 of 2002 (FAIS). For information about the Standard Bank Group Limited visit our website http://www.standardbank.co.za ___
Re: SUSE 10 in LPAR Mode
Because Windows is not case sensitive and Unix is. Very easy to fat-finger a filename. I've seen it on my own website when switching from a Windows based server to a Unix based server on a hyperlink to a JPG, for example where the uploaded JPG has a different case to the hyperlink (works under Windows but not Unix). K -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Tully Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 8:40 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SUSE 10 in LPAR Mode Paul, Having installed a fair number of copies of Linux at customer sites, I can assure you the FTP server CAN be on a window server, BUT each time I have installed from a window server I have had a problem with case that I do not have when installing from a *nix server. So I consistently tell my customers a window server is the last option I would ask for, especially when another group is controlling the server and requires multiple layers of help to affect changes. regards Phil Tully Paul Noble wrote: I don't know if this is your problem or not, but the consultant who helped us install z/VM and SUSE Linux told us that the installation FTP server COULD NOT BE ON A WINDOWS SERVER. It had something to do with Windows handling the long file names incorrectly. He had Linux running on his laptop, which we plugged into our network and used as the installation server. I don't think that the fact that we are running z/VM and you are running in an LPAR makes any difference. I also can't vouch for the truth of his warning from personal experience. Paul Noble, Network Engineer Cuyahoga County Information Service Center Martin, Larry D [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7/5/2007 8:02 AM Looking for help. This is my first attempt at Linux on the mainframe. I have a trial copy of SUSE 10 and am trying to install it into an LPAR on a Z890. I have built an IPL Tape and that works. When trying to build the system I need to access the INSTALL folder at an FTP site. I have that on a Windows 2000 server but all I can get is image not found. Can someone give me any insight as to what the response to the Enter the directory on the server should look like? I have no CDROM available. I also tried NFS from a z/OS 1.7 system with similar results. Thanks, Larry Martin ... ... This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Prince George*s County Government or Prince George's County 7th Judicial Circuit Court proprietary information, which is privileged and confidential. This E-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this E-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or action taken in relation to the contents of and attachments to this E-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of this E-mail and any printout. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- 'in media stat virtus' Virtue's in the middle -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SUSE 10 in LPAR Mode
I don't know if this is your problem or not, but the consultant who helped us install z/VM and SUSE Linux told us that the installation FTP server COULD NOT BE ON A WINDOWS SERVER. It had something to do with Windows handling the long file names incorrectly. He had Linux running on his laptop, which we plugged into our network and used as the installation server. I don't think that the fact that we are running z/VM and you are running in an LPAR makes any difference. I also can't vouch for the truth of his warning from personal experience. Paul Noble, Network Engineer Cuyahoga County Information Service Center Martin, Larry D [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7/5/2007 8:02 AM Looking for help. This is my first attempt at Linux on the mainframe. I have a trial copy of SUSE 10 and am trying to install it into an LPAR on a Z890. I have built an IPL Tape and that works. When trying to build the system I need to access the INSTALL folder at an FTP site. I have that on a Windows 2000 server but all I can get is image not found. Can someone give me any insight as to what the response to the Enter the directory on the server should look like? I have no CDROM available. I also tried NFS from a z/OS 1.7 system with similar results. Thanks, Larry Martin .. This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Prince George*s County Government or Prince George's County 7th Judicial Circuit Court proprietary information, which is privileged and confidential. This E-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this E-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or action taken in relation to the contents of and attachments to this E-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of this E-mail and any printout. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SUSE 10 in LPAR Mode
Paul, Having installed a fair number of copies of Linux at customer sites, I can assure you the FTP server CAN be on a window server, BUT each time I have installed from a window server I have had a problem with case that I do not have when installing from a *nix server. So I consistently tell my customers a window server is the last option I would ask for, especially when another group is controlling the server and requires multiple layers of help to affect changes. regards Phil Tully Paul Noble wrote: I don't know if this is your problem or not, but the consultant who helped us install z/VM and SUSE Linux told us that the installation FTP server COULD NOT BE ON A WINDOWS SERVER. It had something to do with Windows handling the long file names incorrectly. He had Linux running on his laptop, which we plugged into our network and used as the installation server. I don't think that the fact that we are running z/VM and you are running in an LPAR makes any difference. I also can't vouch for the truth of his warning from personal experience. Paul Noble, Network Engineer Cuyahoga County Information Service Center Martin, Larry D [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7/5/2007 8:02 AM Looking for help. This is my first attempt at Linux on the mainframe. I have a trial copy of SUSE 10 and am trying to install it into an LPAR on a Z890. I have built an IPL Tape and that works. When trying to build the system I need to access the INSTALL folder at an FTP site. I have that on a Windows 2000 server but all I can get is image not found. Can someone give me any insight as to what the response to the Enter the directory on the server should look like? I have no CDROM available. I also tried NFS from a z/OS 1.7 system with similar results. Thanks, Larry Martin .. This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Prince George*s County Government or Prince George's County 7th Judicial Circuit Court proprietary information, which is privileged and confidential. This E-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this E-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or action taken in relation to the contents of and attachments to this E-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of this E-mail and any printout. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- 'in media stat virtus' Virtue's in the middle -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
SUSE 10 in LPAR Mode
Looking for help. This is my first attempt at Linux on the mainframe. I have a trial copy of SUSE 10 and am trying to install it into an LPAR on a Z890. I have built an IPL Tape and that works. When trying to build the system I need to access the INSTALL folder at an FTP site. I have that on a Windows 2000 server but all I can get is image not found. Can someone give me any insight as to what the response to the Enter the directory on the server should look like? I have no CDROM available. I also tried NFS from a z/OS 1.7 system with similar results. Thanks, Larry Martin .. This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Prince George’s County Government or Prince George's County 7th Judicial Circuit Court proprietary information, which is privileged and confidential. This E-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this E-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or action taken in relation to the contents of and attachments to this E-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of this E-mail and any printout.
Re: SUSE 10 in LPAR Mode
On Thursday, 07/05/2007 at 08:02 AST, Martin, Larry D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have built an IPL Tape and that works. When trying to build the system I need to access the INSTALL folder at an FTP site. I have that on a Windows 2000 server but all I can get is image not found. It has been generally the case that Linux install media works better when used in a Linux/UNIX-style FTP server. While Windows will serve up the files, sometimes those files are actually links (aliases) to other files on the media, something Windows doesn't seem to handle very well. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SUSE 10 in LPAR Mode
On Thu, Jul 5, 2007 at 8:02 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Martin, Larry D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking for help. You came to the right place. (Although the trial copy also gets you installation help.) This is my first attempt at Linux on the mainframe. I have a trial copy of SUSE 10 and am trying to install it into an LPAR on a Z890. Did you know that IBM will also let you try out z/VM at no cost? That would make your testing immensely easier on you. I have built an IPL Tape and that works. When trying to build the system I need to access the INSTALL folder at an FTP site. I have that on a Windows 2000 server but all I can get is image not found. If you're going to use a Windows server, you would need to use the SMB access method, not FTP. If you have access to a UNIX/Linux system, you can use any supported method you like. Can someone give me any insight as to what the response to the Enter the directory on the server should look like? I don't think this is your problem, rather the fact that you're using a Windows FTP server. However... The installer is looking for the path to the directory that includes the media.1 directory. With SLES9, this had to be a _relative_ path to that directory, starting from the home directory of what ever userid you were using to access the FTP server. I haven't tried to verify if that holds true with SLES10 or not. I have no CDROM available. I also tried NFS from a z/OS 1.7 system with similar results. I'm not quite sure what you mean by no CDROM. How did you get the installation media onto the Windows system? If you have _any_ network connected Intel system, with a CD/DVD reader on it, you can actually boot from the Linux for System z CD (or DVD), and it will launch an Intel Linux system that will act as an FTP/NFS/SMB server for the media you just booted from. All without modifying your hard drive in any way. (Pretty cool, and thanks to Ihno Krumreich for informing me of that.) Mark Post Linux Deployment SWAT Team -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
