Linux-Advocacy Digest #436
Linux-Advocacy Digest #436, Volume #34 Fri, 11 May 01 21:13:07 EDT Contents: Re: Double whammy cross-platform worm (T. Max Devlin) Re: How to hack with a crash, another Microsoft feature (T. Max Devlin) Re: How to hack with a crash, another Microsoft feature (T. Max Devlin) Re: bank switches from using NT 4 (T. Max Devlin) Re: bank switches from using NT 4 (T. Max Devlin) Re: bank switches from using NT 4 (T. Max Devlin) Re: bank switches from using NT 4 (T. Max Devlin) Re: Linux is paralyzed before it even starts (T. Max Devlin) Re: Linux is paralyzed before it even starts (T. Max Devlin) Re: Linux is paralyzed before it even starts (T. Max Devlin) Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! (T. Max Devlin) Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! (T. Max Devlin) Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! (T. Max Devlin) Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! (T. Max Devlin) Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! (T. Max Devlin) Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! (T. Max Devlin) From: T. Max Devlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy Subject: Re: Double whammy cross-platform worm Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 01:01:23 GMT Said Matthew Gardiner in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sat, 12 May 2001 Correction: the marketplace is *supposed* to be driven by the demands of the consumer. Which is, of course, why, a hundred years ago, the U.S. Congress passed the Sherman Act, to ensure that this is all that would drive demand, and the desires of the producers (outside desire to compete and profit) are prevented from controlling prices or excluding competition. Having been found guilty of doing just this thing, and thereby providing more than adequate evidence that your claim that MS will magically learn to be competitive, and stop being anti-competitive, if people simply refuse to buy MS products, is just plain brain-dead. The market has been rejecting monopoly crapware for YEARS, and it hasn't done a lick of good, obviously. Thus, the federal conviction, soon to be judged on appeal. Even if they should win the appeal (at most resulting in a new trial), though, pretending that MS hasn't been monopolizing, rather than competing, for years, is just ignorance gone blind. The judges and lawyers need to maintain prudent presumption of innocence, but that is for courtrooms. In the real world, we are not required to deny the evidence of our senses. There is a rather critical difference between your fantasy world and the real world; the difference between being unwilling and being unable. I don't cotton to any ludicrous second-guessing about what people should be able to do that they are not already able to do. If you're going to say they should be able to avoid MS crapware, then I'd have to agree with you, but that's just double-checking that the criminal monopoly is remedied, not a matter of assuming the consumers are somehow unable to make competent choices in the marketplace. The arrogance of your position is both astounding and pathetic, and extremely unreasonable. Question, why is it everytime a company is bought towards the DOJ, its always the governments fault, reality stick please! why would a government wish to unnecessarily ruin a cash cow? Microsoft broke the law, had they gracefully accepted the findings, the trial would never taken as long, it would have improved the image of the company, in that it is humble enough to accept they made a mistake, and even at the outermost, the company was split up, no would lose out, consumers would benefit in that the OS company would only sell the OS, thus the rest of Microsoft cannot use Windows as a leverage, and vise-versa Just goes to show you how valuable monopoly itself can be. Microsoft would be willing to give up ANYTHING, save the monopoly itself, to save the monopoly. Some people are so naive as to think this somehow ensures competitive merit, in the absence of competition, as if desire to maintain the monopoly forces MS to improve their products. Then they line up to pay the monopoly prices (again); I did say they were 'naive', didn't I? Maybe just not very bright, seeing as they do it over and over again... -- T. Max Devlin *** The best way to convince another is to state your case moderately and accurately. - Benjamin Franklin *** -- From: T. Max Devlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How to hack with a crash, another Microsoft feature Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 01:01:25 GMT Said Erik Funkenbusch in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu, 10 May 2001 Chronos Tachyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:eTFK6.1050$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... On Thu 10 May 2001 03:19, Erik Funkenbusch wrote: [Snip] on-time pads are theoretically uncrackable
Linux-Advocacy Digest #436
Linux-Advocacy Digest #436, Volume #33Sat, 7 Apr 01 17:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: gates messiah (Anonymous)
Re: Why does Open Source exist, and what way is it developing? (Salvador Peralta)
Re: Communism (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Communism (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Communism (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Communism (T. Max Devlin)
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) ("Roger Perkins")
Re: Communism (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Communism (T. Max Devlin)
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) ("Roger Perkins")
Re: Microsoft abandoning USB? (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Q:Windows NT scripting? (Donn Miller)
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Hey, JS PL was Re: Microsoft abandoning USB? (Bob Hauck)
Re: Hey, JS PL was Re: Microsoft abandoning USB? (Bob Hauck)
Re: Entry-level *ix positions?? (Bob Hauck)
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) (T. Max Devlin)
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) (T. Max Devlin)
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 13:26:11 -0600
From: Anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: gates messiah
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
matt wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 23:07:30 GMT, Dark Angel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:In soc.singles Anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:| that weird monkey guy who isn't stebe:
:| Dark Angel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
:|
:| : Your archnemisis, Steve Chaney, seems to have had no trouble learning
:| : to use unix. Guess you're finally conceding that Chaney's smarter
:| : than you
:|
:| And Jackie Pokemon didn't need a recount to realise it's time to concede.
:
:| do you speak japanese?
:| if not
:| does that make you dumber than someone who can?
:| jackie 'anakin' tokeman
:
:Depends, if he put equal effort into learning Japanese and failed
:as the other person did and succeeded, then yes.
% man anakin
NAME
anakin - (Yet Another) Dark Lord of the Sith
SYNOPSIS
anakin [OPTIONS] [IMPERIAL_CODE]
USAGE
% anakin 402
Your misery is my dance
% anakin --help
The fact that 'anakin' does not run under Unix may be a bug, but
the executable considers it a feature.
% anakin 267
p r e c i s e l y
OPTIONS
-t sniggla Specify the designated target.
--mt deathstar
Specify a more military target.
--gthw play Global Thermonuclear Hypocrisy War
AUTHOR
Shmi Skywalker, apparently.
qui gonn speculates that i may have been fathered directly by the
midichlorians
whatever the fuck that means
BUGS
Does not know the language of binary load lifters.
WARNINGS
Refuses to mount excessively large filesystems.
May attempt 'kill -SOUL' on any PID at any time, even the
calling process.(in that event see 'anakin 666')
i think i only got aboot 40% of that
but it was still pretty funny
jackie 'anakin' tokeman
men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth - more than ruin,
more even than death
- bertrand russell
--
From: Salvador Peralta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Why does Open Source exist, and what way is it developing?
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 12:57:28 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Goldhammer quoth:
On Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:33:47 -0700,
Salvador Peralta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What you have shown is that it's pretty easy to decontextualize and
misreperesent, or outright contrive statements by three of the most
influential thinkers of the 19th century in a flippant way and make
yourself look like an arrogant boob in the process.
That's odd. I didn't present any "statements"
by Marx or Freud,
I stand corrected. You flippantly dismissed 4 of the 19th century's
most influential thinkers and it appears that I was overgenerous in
my interpretation of how you did it. You didn't even attempt to
contrive or misrepresent a statement before flippantly dismissing
either Marx or Freud. But you did of Nietszche. And in that case it
was contrived. Why not throw in Jung or Kierkegaard and go for a
quinella?
Perhaps you prefer the criticism: "A mouse nipping at the heels of
giants"? Again, it is easy to decontextualize, misrepresent, and
contrive positions. Easier still to say "Genius? Balderdash." More
difficult to show that you actually understand any of their works
well enough to offer a legitimate deconstruction or otherwise defend
your assertions with something other than the few decontextualized
references to one of Darwin's works.
As for Darwin's sloppy method... every single paragraph cites
references in the literature available to him at the time... all in
all a good sight less sloppy in that regard than your
decontextualized critique of aspects of th
Linux-Advocacy Digest #436
Linux-Advocacy Digest #436, Volume #32 Fri, 23 Feb 01 19:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: State of linux distros (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: Are todays computers 1000 times better than the original PCs? (Mig)
Re: Why Open Source better be careful - The Microsoft Un-American Activities
Committee (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: Into the abyss... ("Masha Ku'Inanna")
NT vs *nix performance ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"! ("Mart van de Wege")
Re: Are todays computers 1000 times better than the original PCs? ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Maximum Linux Magazine Is Going Out Of Business Ha Ha Ha ("Mart van de Wege")
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited ("B.B.")
Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"! (Peter Hayes)
Re: Stability of 2.4.1? ("Bobby D. Bryant")
Re: Who said NT was stable ! ("Bobby D. Bryant")
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited ("B.B.")
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Woofbert)
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Woofbert)
Re: SSH vulnerabilities - still waiting [ was Interesting article ] (Shane Phelps)
Re: The Windows guy. (Shane Phelps)
Re: Linux Threat: non-existant (Shane Phelps)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Subject: Re: State of linux distros
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 22:13:18 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Aaron Kulkis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote
on Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:29:37 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Reefer wrote:
Linsux is dead.
That's why it scares Gates, Allchin, and Steve Baaawllmer.
I can see the marquees now.
Linux.
The OS That Wouldn't Die.
The OS that can install on your machine, coexisting with other
operating systems, and utilize every ounce of power available
from the hardware.
The OS that can do everything Win2k can do, and more. (Except
be proprietary.)
The OS that puts a real computer on your desktop, not some
glorified child's toy with glitzy shadowed mouse pointers
and beautifully-disappearing submenus.
The OS that doesn't cost extra and require a nifty neato fancy
IDE to start developing programs. (Unless one really wants to.)
The OS that scares the shit out of proprietary megalomaniacial
monopolistic types everywhere.
The OS That Bill And Steve Just Can't Kill Even After Trying To
FUD It To Death.
...
Coming soon to a computer near you. :-)
(You think it'll sell? :-) Or am I too late already? )
"dev null" [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev i meddelandet
news:9737j1$b6h$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Culled somewhere off of www.devx.com this a.m.
In spite of the fact that Mandrake boasts that it is the hottest Linux
distributor in retail sales, its retail product is a loss leader. SuSE has
laid off two-thirds of its U.S. employees. TurboLinux is cutting back on
its
workforce and may soon wed Linuxcare to refocus its efforts onto services.
Stormix, a commercial distributor that based its offering on Debian, has
recently filed for bankruptcy. Corel is getting nowhere with its Linux
distribution. In other words, most Linux distributions, even the ones
whose
market share is growing each year, are concluding that they can't make
money
selling Linux.
Wow, get that! Companies sprouting up like weeds, trying to turn a profit
on
a free product by adding value only. --dubious value at that. And there
is
only SO much value one can add to a linux distro or the penquinistas start
braying like donkeys in heat. See Corel for what can happen when they
think
you have 'window-fied' linux!
I'm STILL wondering how they ever thought that they COULD be viable.
dot com madness, something like mad-cow disease I think.
[.sigsnip]
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
EAC code #191 18d:03h:40m actually running Linux.
Yes, uptime wall clock aren't in synch; I don't know why.
--
From: Mig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Are todays computers 1000 times better than the original PCs?
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 23:14:32 +0100
Edward Rosten wrote:
Yep. The first binary digital computer was purely mechanical and ran at
1Hz. Quite a remarkabe machine, it even did floating point arithmetic. It
never worked very well (it was built by a single bloke in his parents
living room) but the later electromechanical versions did work very well.
The guy was an unsung genius.
http://irb.cs.tu-berlin.de/~zuse/Konrad_Zuse/en/Rechner_Z1.html
Look at the other stuff on the site about him too (there are also many
other sites about him). He invented pipelining as well, not to mention
the ADC and a host of other things including the first High Level
Language.
Yes, Konrad Zuse is the man!
He's not so unsung here.. i remenber he was creditt
Linux-Advocacy Digest #436
Linux-Advocacy Digest #436, Volume #31 Sat, 13 Jan 01 14:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: KDE Hell ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: A salutary lesson about open source ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux *has* the EDGE! (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: Do any software engineering jobs pay $800,000/year? (sfcybear)
Re: Linux Mandrake 7.2 and the banana peel (sfcybear)
Re: Linux Mandrake 7.2 and the banana peel (sfcybear)
Re: Linux Mandrake 7.2 and the banana peel (sfcybear)
Re: MS Office Porting to OS X--Linux Next? (Edward Rosten)
Re: Linux Mandrake 7.2 and the banana peel (Pete Goodwin)
Re: Linux Mandrake 7.2 and the banana peel (Pete Goodwin)
Re: Linux Mandrake 7.2 and the banana peel (Pete Goodwin)
Re: Linux Mandrake 7.2 and the banana peel (Pete Goodwin)
Re: Why does Win2k always fail in running time? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: A salutary lesson about open source ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: Microsoft Email Lists (Craig Kelley)
Re: Microsoft Email Lists (Craig Kelley)
Re: Linux 2.4 Major Advance (Craig Kelley)
Re: Linux 2.4 Major Advance (Craig Kelley)
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: KDE Hell
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 12:39:46 -0500
Kyle Jacobs wrote:
Really? When I ventured into the arena of Engineering (which I promptly
scurried away from...) Everyone cross associated AutoDesk's AutoCAD
software as a critical, modern engineering tool.
AutoCAD is 2nd-rate software, acceptable only by people who are
satisfied with 2nd-rate platforms (M$) that it runs on.
AutoCAD is a 2-Dimensional CAD system. It's ok for designing cabinets
and houses, but completely UN-suitable for designing anything with moving parts.
Especially oddly shaped parts like crank shafts.
Corollary: AutoCAD is good as a cheap LEARNING tool.
Of course, if you weren't such a dumb, tight ass, you'd see past this
childish, and obsessive minutia and see the "BIG PICTURE" that a lot of
things just get cross associated, like AutoCAD, the concept of "CAD", and
general engineering.
I have YEARS of experience supporting such environments.
You don't.
so solly.
"Aaron R. Kulkis" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Kyle Jacobs wrote:
Only because all that "wonderful" engineering software, and those 64bit
processors to run the software only have UNIX platforms...
CAD is *NOT* "engineering software," you dumbass.
CAD is DRAFTING software.
Data can be exported into non-proprietary formats (IGES, etc.) for
exchange with other platforms.
Now...answer thisConsidering that Unigraphics runs on NT as well as
most Unix platforms, please explain why all CAD work is, if NT is
supposedly cheaper and easier to administrate, and easier to use for
Joe non-CS major (i.e. 99.999% of all automotive designers, detailers
and checkers), then why does General Motors NOT run UG on NT?
I'll tell you why?
Because using Unix, All of GM's 15,000 UG workstations can be
administrated
from two small offices in Troy, Michigan by a handful of people.
Conversely, doing it with NT would require a substantial number of
support personnel AT EVERY SITE.
CDE had FUNCTIONALITY in it, be it at the cost of some intuitiveness.
As
long as Sun stands behind GNOME for it's central UI system, I'll have no
problem with it. (It's Linux that bothers me with GNOME, or any other
interface for that matter anyway).
"Aaron R. Kulkis" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Kyle Jacobs wrote:
Firstly, if you had bothered to read what you clipped, you'd note
that
this
was a response to KDE not being the "desktop" answer it's cracked up
to
be.
Second, "Linux not for the desktop" is a load of shit. Tell
Linux.com
to
openly admit that Linux isn't for desktop use, never has, and never
will
be,
and I swear I'll stop posting to ANY Linux newsgroup.
Linux has much nicer desktops than any commercial version of Unix (in
fact,
Sun has actually thrown out CDE in favor of Gnome)and Unix *IS*
the
standard desktop for the automotive and aerospace
industries...EVERYWHERE,
WORLDWIDE.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you
Linux-Advocacy Digest #436
Linux-Advocacy Digest #436, Volume #30 Sun, 26 Nov 00 09:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever (mark)
Re: Of course, there is a down side... ("PLZI")
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever ("Ayende Rahien")
From: "Ayende Rahien" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 15:09:04 +0200
"mark" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
In article 8vplo7$5eu5a$[EMAIL PROTECTED], Ayende Rahien wrote:
"Aaron R. Kulkis" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
mark wrote:
This is a high price to pay for Microsoft's attempts to copy the
It' not so much the attempt, but the INABILITY to do it properly
which is the problem.
functionality of the Mac finder.
Mark
Interestingly enough, Mac OS X seems a lot like windows.
Who is copying whom?
Mac OS X will seem a lot like windows to a windows user
because Microsoft have been trying to copy the Mac finder
for years and years. Each release of Windows gets a bit
closer to the Mac.
No.
I can believe this for 3.11/95
But not for the rest of it.
Once the GUI was a standard, they didn't change it.
Well, they did in whistler, but you can still have the familiar windows GUI
if you really like it.
It's now Mac times to copy windows.
___
http://macweek.zdnet.com/2000/06/04/0608rzqa.html
Q: Will Mac OS X include a Windows NT-like Task Manager?
Mac OS X includes a task manager. You can access it by using the
Option-Apple-Escape keys. Presently, you can only force-quit from this menu.
However, a more advanced tool called Process Viewer is located in
/System/Administration. This has the ability to monitor system usage per
application as well as the force-quit function.
_
http://www.salonmag.com/tech/review/2000/10/25/os_x1/
Mac OS X: AS WINDOWS AS YOU WANNA BE
Apple's new operating system has learned a few tricks from Microsoft -- and
added some neat features of its own
__
Overall, I don't think that I like the new interface very much.
It scream "I'm pretty, look at me!"
It will, however, act a lot more like unix because it's
a unix like kernel and OS underneath the GUI bits.
I was talking about how it's going to look.
Hopefully, it will prove that a *nix system can actually be usable without
being overly complex.
--
From: "Ayende Rahien" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 15:23:48 +0200
"mark" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
In article 8vplo7$5eu5a$[EMAIL PROTECTED], Ayende Rahien wrote:
"Aaron R. Kulkis" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
mark wrote:
This is a high price to pay for Microsoft's attempts to copy the
It' not so much the attempt, but the INABILITY to do it properly
which is the problem.
functionality of the Mac finder.
Mark
Interestingly enough, Mac OS X seems a lot like windows.
Who is copying whom?
Mac OS X will seem a lot like windows to a windows user
because Microsoft have been trying to copy the Mac finder
for years and years. Each release of Windows gets a bit
closer to the Mac.
No.
I can believe this for 3.11/95
But not for the rest of it.
Once the GUI was a standard, they didn't change it.
Well, they did in whistler, but you can still have the familiar windows GUI
if you really like it.
It's now Mac times to copy windows.
___
http://macweek.zdnet.com/2000/06/04/0608rzqa.html
Q: Will Mac OS X include a Windows NT-like Task Manager?
Mac OS X includes a task manager. You can access it by using the
Option-Apple-Escape keys. Presently, you can only force-quit from this menu.
However, a more advanced tool called Process Viewer is located in
/System/Administration. This has the ability to monitor system usage per
application as well as the force-quit function.
_
http://www.salonmag.com/tech/review/2000/10/25/os_x1/
Mac OS X: AS WINDOWS AS YOU WANNA BE
Apple's new operating system has learned a few tricks from Microsoft -- and
added some neat features of its own
__
Overall, I don't think that I like the new interface very much.
(http://www.apple.com/macosx/usingosx/desktop.html)
It scream "I'm pretty, look at me!&quo
Linux-Advocacy Digest #436
Linux-Advocacy Digest #436, Volume #29Tue, 3 Oct 00 22:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: What kind of WinTroll Idiot are you anyway? (Bob Hauck)
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (WickedDyno)
Re: Double standard? (Charlie Ebert)
Re: How are you using linux? ("Joseph T. Adams")
Damn - Banned again for the 15th time! (Charlie Ebert)
Re: Off-topic Idiots (Was Bush v. Gore on taxes) ("David T. Johnson")
Re: Linux and Free Internet? ("Joseph T. Adams")
Re: Why should anyone prefer Linux to Win2k on the DeskTop (Bob Hauck)
Re: Why should anyone prefer Linux to Win2k on the DeskTop (Bob Hauck)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: What kind of WinTroll Idiot are you anyway?
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 22:04:35 GMT
On Tue, 03 Oct 2000 19:29:15 GMT, The Ghost In The Machine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And she's going to figure out that 'hdparm' is the Magical Mystical
Keyword how?
I don't know if "apropros performance" will return that.
Not here, but "apropos disk" does.
To be fair, I doubt NT is much better, although its documentation tends
to be slicker.
How _do_ you turn off DMA on an IDE disk in NT? Probably a registry
key that's documented someplace in the bowels of MSDN. Where granma
won't ever find it.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
--
From: WickedDyno [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 20:56:01 -0400
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Aaron R. Kulkis"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
WickedDyno wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Aaron R. Kulkis"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
"Joseph T. Adams" wrote:
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Donovan Rebbechi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
: On 1 Oct 2000 15:13:23 GMT, Joseph T. Adams wrote:
:In comp.os.linux.advocacy JS/PL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:In many urban areas in the U.S., urban decay, crime, and the
:middle-class flight syndrome (often mistakenly labeled "white
:flight")
: How mistaken is the label ? I was in Newark NJ for a while, and I
: remember
: walking along crowded streets where I was the only "white person"
: (
: whatever
: that means ) in sight. Of course, it's also true that all the
: middle
: class
: African Americans who used to live there also seem to have packed
: their
: bags and moved to the suburbs.
That is precisely the difference. It isn't that white people don't
want to live in terrible areas, but, rather that NO ONE wants to
live
in those areas. All but the very poorest leave.
For a variety of reasons, most of which are not their fault, Black
and
Hispanic and other minority citizens are greatly overrepresented in
Low-IQ correlates with low incomes and unemployment.
IQ correlates even more strongly with education.
Of course... retards generally don't make it into college.
Neither do those with low incomes or unemployment.
--
| Andrew Glasgow amg39(at)cornell.edu |
| SCSI is *NOT* magic. There are *fundamental technical |
| reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat |
| to your SCSI chain now and then. -- John Woods |
--
From: Charlie Ebert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Double standard?
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 01:02:11 GMT
MH wrote:
"Charlie Ebert" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
OS stability by far. I'm just glad that Linux offers better in both
departments.
I have asked windows users time and time again what makes windows
greater
than KDE and GNOME and I never get an answer.
This movie has been rolling for sometime now, but it has gotten really old.
I think KDE Gnome have done some great work in a short amount of time to
make linux more accessible to new experienced users alike. Having said
that, however, these GUI's are nowhere even in the same league as either the
mac or windows interfaces. Either in user friendliness, or programmability.
The latest stuff will be out in force in nearly all the distributions within
one month.
It's already out in Suse and Redhat.
But the KDE and GNOME we work with for the last year will do everything I did
on windows. Now, if I'm an inadequate user by your standards I'm not
concerned.
Everybody has different needs. As far as drag and drop printers go, I really
don't
need it. Printers and network connections are something you set up once and
then you just forget about it.
If you truly disagree, then you d
Linux-Advocacy Digest #436
Linux-Advocacy Digest #436, Volume #28 Wed, 16 Aug 00 15:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Free Systems Phylosophy vs. Free Software Philosophy (Adam Shapira)
Re: Microsoft MCSE ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Linsux as a desktop platform (void)
Re: Linsux as a desktop platform (void)
Re: Is the GDI-in-kernel-mode thing really so bad?... (was Re: Anonymous Windtrolls
and Authentic Linvocates) ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: The dusty Linux shelves at CompUSA (Brian Langenberger)
Re: The dusty Linux shelves at CompUSA
Re: The dusty Linux shelves at CompUSA ("Bobby D. Bryant")
Re: It's official, NT beats Linux (?) (mark)
Re: FAQ for c.o.m.n.a Now Available! ("Robert Moir")
Re: MCSE != Engineer (Was: Microsoft MCSE ("Gabriel Swanson")
Re: So ya' wanna' run Linux?...I have a bridge for sale in Bklyn. (mark)
Re: OS advertising in the movies... (was Re: Microsoft MCSE) (The Ghost In The
Machine)
Re: MCSE != Engineer (Was: Microsoft MCSE (Lugo)
Re: MCSE != Engineer (Was: Microsoft MCSE (lilo)
Re: It's official, NT beats Linux (?) (Nathaniel Jay Lee)
Re: FAQ for c.o.m.n.a Now Available! (Nathaniel Jay Lee)
6 Need Developers ("Scott A. Vigil")
Case study: Porting DB2 to Linux (fyi) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
7 Need Developers ("Scott A. Vigil")
Re: Scheme == Beginners language (Greg Horne)
Re: The dusty Linux shelves at CompUSA (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: It's official, NT beats Linux (?) (Bob Hauck)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 13:26:32 -0400
From: Adam Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Free Systems Phylosophy vs. Free Software Philosophy
I'm putting together a web-site about what I call
the "Free Systems Philosophy". Unlike the Free
Software Philosophy, the Free Systems Philosophy
is a lot less judgemental against developers who
have to write proprietary High-End applications to
support themselves ... but strongly maintains that
Operating Systems need to be free.
Here's what I have so far:
http://www.vic.com/~vorlon/freeos/concept.html
--
From: "Erik Funkenbusch" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Microsoft MCSE
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:43:09 -0500
"Aaron R. Kulkis" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
The techniques you mention are impossible to implement in
these languages, thus a developer in those languages has no need to
understand them.
Wrong. IF a programmer's code TRIGGERS garbage collection, then
he would be well advised to understand how it works.
Why? In those langauges, it just works. What need is there to understand
it?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (void)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linsux as a desktop platform
Date: 16 Aug 2000 17:07:49 GMT
[Windows and Mac groups removed]
On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 03:14:09 +1000, Christopher Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
"The Ghost In The Machine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Mind you, expecting a rank newbie to make this correspondence may
be a bit much. (Ideally, chmod(1) would have a "see also"
to chmod(2).)
But it does (at least my FreeBSD box's man pages do):
The GNU version doesn't.
--
Ben
220 go.ahead.make.my.day ESMTP Postfix
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (void)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linsux as a desktop platform
Date: 16 Aug 2000 16:48:35 GMT
[Windows and Mac groups removed]
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:42:41 GMT, The Ghost In The Machine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mind you, expecting a rank newbie to make this correspondence may
be a bit much. (Ideally, chmod(1) would have a "see also"
to chmod(2).)
On Solaris and FreeBSD, it does.
--
Ben
220 go.ahead.make.my.day ESMTP Postfix
--
From: "Erik Funkenbusch" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is the GDI-in-kernel-mode thing really so bad?... (was Re: Anonymous
Windtrolls and Authentic Linvocates)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:47:24 -0500
No, you said:
Other than support for "drag an drop" I am unaware of any service that
Explorer provides that fvwm does not. Even then most of the "drag and
drop" is provided by shared libraries and explorer proper.
My reply to that was that explorer provided other features that fvwm did
not.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:8ndhhj$ner$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Erik Funkenbusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:Zmqm5.6144$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Are you following this discussion? The question was asked, what
functionality did explorer provide that fvwm did not. I am answering.
The question was if explorer was another window manager what features
would
it have to convince someone to cause someo
Linux-Advocacy Digest #436
Linux-Advocacy Digest #436, Volume #26 Wed, 10 May 00 06:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Why only Microsoft should be allowed to create software ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Why only Microsoft should be allowed to create software ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Why only Microsoft should be allowed to create software (Peter Ammon)
Re: KDE is better than Gnome (bob@nospam)
Re: Why only Microsoft should be allowed to create software ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Why only Microsoft should be allowed to create software ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Why only Microsoft should be allowed to create software ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Why only Microsoft should be allowed to create software ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: This is Bullsh^%T!!! (M. Buchenrieder)
Re: Why only Microsoft should be allowed to create software ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Linux will remain immune (2:1)
Re: This is Bullsh^%T!!! (mlw)
Re: This is Bullsh^%T!!! (mlw)
Re: This is Bullsh^%T!!! (Donal K. Fellows)
Re: This is Bullsh^%T!!! (Donal K. Fellows)
Re: This is Bullsh^%T!!! (mlw)
Re: Why only Microsoft should be allowed to create software (John Poltorak)
From: "Erik Funkenbusch" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why only Microsoft should be allowed to create software
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 04:23:09 -0500
Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
I think Microsoft has a right to warn people about possible
incompatibilities. There were documented memory management bugs in
DR-DOS
(these were fixed in a patch later).
MS does NOT have a right to warn people of possible incompatibilites.
But we know more. MS documents show the intention of the code was to
disparage DR-DOS. Slam dunk.
They don't have the right to tell people that something doesn't work well
with their product? Why not?
MS documents also show the fact that DR-DOS had problems with Windows.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/991105-23.html
Brad Silverberg emailed Allchin on 27 September 1991:
"drdos has problems running windows today, and I assume will
have more problems in the future."
Allchin replied: "You should make sure it has problems in
the future. :-)",
Now, one could argue that the smiley was meant only as a joke, but even if
you take the comment as real it still proves that Microsoft was aware of
technical reasons why DR-DOS had troubles.
More to the point, Microsoft probably decided the message would probably
create more problems than it solved. Software development is like that.
A
fix is often put in then removed later.
No. It solved no technical problem. Evidence showed the intention was
to disparage DR-DOS.
There were indeed technical issues. Despite MS's attempts to make them even
more difficult. The fact that technical issues existed at all is evidence
to suggest that MS had a right to warn people about DR-DOS. Can you blame
them for wanting to take full advantage of it?
--
From: "Erik Funkenbusch" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why only Microsoft should be allowed to create software
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 04:24:36 -0500
Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
David Steinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:8fae5b$hv1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
This very quickly brings us back to the question you dodged: if the
display of this error message and the test that caused it were an
innocent, justifiable part of the beta process, why didn't Microsoft
want
anyone to know about it?
I could really care less. The point of the matter is that no such
message
occured in the retail product.
It did occur in the public BETA of windows3.1 and windows 3.1 is a a
retail product.
You're arguing that a beta is a retail product?
The message existed but was switched off in the GA version of
Windows3.1.
If no message is ever displayed in the retail version, the the message does
not exist regardless of the existance of code. What matters is what the
user can see.
--
From: Peter Ammon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why only Microsoft should be allowed to create software
Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 05:18:56 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
If no message is ever displayed in the retail version, the the message does
not exist regardless of the existance of code. What matters is what the
user can see.
Tens of thousands of users had the beta with th
