Re: áòðééï: Backup Solutions
Hi, since you mention HUJI I'll comment on it: Legato is the enterprise backup solution for HUJI. I have a SuSE Linux system and when asking for support I got downright negative answers. Finally I managed to install the client and it works well since then, but the client itself as client is very lousy: a conglomerate of text mode programs without any proper help or manuals. Furthermore the client doesn't require ANYTHING RedHat specific so that if they had packed it as tgz with a simple Makefile it would be installable on almost any Linux. So long, Sincerely, Schlomo Schapiro --- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.schapiro.org On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, netvision wrote: > Hi, > > Logato's home page have been modified lastly and I agree it might > be improverd, including more URLs. The focus on Linux just started... > > Some of the customers that I know about, who are using Linux as > NetWorker clients: > > Hebrew University, Weizmann Institute, > Mellanox and lastly Sphera. > > Thanks, > > Avi Koski > > -äåãòä î÷åøéú- > îàú: Ira Abramov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > àì: FLiCK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > úàøéê: éåí ùðé 24 éåìé 2000 23:09 > ðåùà: Re: Backup Solutions > > > >On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, netvision wrote: > > > > > >> 1. Sitemap -> Related links -> Current Products -> NetWorker for Linux > >> Client > >> 2. Quick Link -> Compatability Guides -> Software Compatability Guide. > > > >what happend to good old URLs? > > > >> 3. In the upper left corner of the home page, use the 'search' option for > >> the word 'linux' and you'll find interesting papers regarding > >> Linux backup solutions. One of them, #39 - "The Linux Challenge > >> Product literature"is very interesting. > > > >again, URL? > > > >> 4. You can also try Linux for Legato Cluster and download it. This > >> is an High Availability product that is running also on Solaris & > >> NT. Uppon request I can provide more details and demostrate it. > > > >any installed linux sites you can reffer to in Israel? > > > > > >-- > >Ira Abramov, GNU/Linux advocate. > > > >(@- "I think...I think it's in my basement. > >//\ Let me go upstairs and check." > >v_/_ - M.C. Escher (1898-1972) > > > > > >= > >To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > >the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > >echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ÝØ unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sprintf, not sscanf, incompability
Quoth guy keren on Tue, Jul 25, 2000: > will > we nove move to "which newspaper is better" crusades, or to "my editor is > larger then yours" crusades? ;) My editor is smaller than yours!!! Discuss. > did you ever say anything interesting on the subject? "interesting" is in > the eye of the beholder, isn't it? Yup, surely. IMO, Moshe did say interesting things on the subject. And I hope that less experienced people learned something from what he said. Vadik. -- Sauron is alive in Argentina! = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sprintf, not sscanf, incompability
Quoth Ury Segal on Tue, Jul 25, 2000: > Relax, man, I am only saying that there are problems in C, > like there are in C++, that's all. Alright. Going to sleep... > > BTW, fix your time _and_ your timezone. > > I AM IN THE UNITED STATES, MISTER > KNOW IT ALL. Well, only timezone, then. Your machine claims that your timezone is "+0200", which is IST (Israeli Standard Time, winter) or CEST (Central European Summer Time) or something similar (your mailer does not hint which one), but not US. Your timezone should be somewhere between -0400 (East Coast) and -0700 (West Coast) in the summer. Just symlink /etc/localtime to the appropriate file under /usr/share/zoneinfo/America or thereabout (assuming Linux, BSD, or any other UNIX system which uses Arthur David Olson's timezone package, excluding Solaris, in which different magic must be applied). And, sadly, despite my vying for technical knowledge, I don't know it all yet (and probably never will). C'est la bloody vie. Vadik. -- Rex is to Regina as Vax is to... = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sprintf, not sscanf, incompability
On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Moshe Zadka wrote: > I simply think that C++ is not a right fit for *any* > project. IOW, for any project there is a language which would have fitted > it better then C++. Why do people use C++? I don't know. I'm not a > psychologist. i already told you why - cause some of us like using it. it's our business if we want to use it, and its your business if you prefer to hate it. will we nove move to "which newspaper is better" crusades, or to "my editor is larger then yours" crusades? ;) > This is my last e-mail on the subject. We have long ceased to say anything > interesting on the subject. did you ever say anything interesting on the subject? "interesting" is in the eye of the beholder, isn't it? bevirkat NP-complete, guy "For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sprintf, not sscanf, incompability
On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Ury Segal wrote: > > To put it simple, some parts of the C standard suck hard, and I > > mean both language per se and the standard C library. But > > overall, in my opinion, C is a nice language. > > Wow. After a long time I managed to bang some sense > itto heads. Huh? I think neither Vadim nor I needed your demagogy to know C is not perfect, and in many places, indeed, "sucks hard". That alone hardly makes C++ a viable alternative. You have noticed that in an earlier mail I claimed no language is perfect, so you can lay off this "stop your crusade for Python" stuff. I simply think that C++ is not a right fit for *any* project. IOW, for any project there is a language which would have fitted it better then C++. Why do people use C++? I don't know. I'm not a psychologist. This is my last e-mail on the subject. We have long ceased to say anything interesting on the subject. -- Moshe Zadka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There is no IGLU cabal. http://advogato.org/person/moshez = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sprintf, not sscanf, incompability
> Quoth Ury Segal on Tue, Jul 25, 2000: > > > Oh. Yet another ANSI incompatibility from Sun Microsystems? You > > > should probably forgive these guys. They were born before ANSI C > > > and before POSIX. Modern BSD systems return int, as expected. > > > > It is NOT from Sun. It is from BSD. > > It's from BSD, then. Pre-ANSI-C version. Before the standard > existed. Before the ANSI standard. Got it? They didn't read > the standard because it didn't exist then. Relax, man, I am only saying that there are problems in C, like there are in C++, that's all. > > > > To put it simple, some parts of the C standard suck hard, and I > > > mean both language per se and the standard C library. But > > > overall, in my opinion, C is a nice language. > > > > Wow. After a long time I managed to bang some sense > > itto heads. > > Did you hear me declare C the Ultimate Programming Language of > all times? I only stated my opinion that C++ is much worse, and > explained why most of your claims about C were mistaken and > caused by basic misunderstanding of the C philisophy and goals. I DID NOT make any clain about C. And suggest you relax. Your opinions are not yourself, you know. > > BTW, fix your time _and_ your timezone. > I AM IN THE UNITED STATES, MISTER KNOW IT ALL. > Vadik. > > -- > Would like to kill a certain group of users. > -- UNIX tech support call > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sprintf, not sscanf, incompability
Quoth Ury Segal on Tue, Jul 25, 2000: > > Oh. Yet another ANSI incompatibility from Sun Microsystems? You > > should probably forgive these guys. They were born before ANSI C > > and before POSIX. Modern BSD systems return int, as expected. > > It is NOT from Sun. It is from BSD. It's from BSD, then. Pre-ANSI-C version. Before the standard existed. Before the ANSI standard. Got it? They didn't read the standard because it didn't exist then. > > To put it simple, some parts of the C standard suck hard, and I > > mean both language per se and the standard C library. But > > overall, in my opinion, C is a nice language. > > Wow. After a long time I managed to bang some sense > itto heads. Did you hear me declare C the Ultimate Programming Language of all times? I only stated my opinion that C++ is much worse, and explained why most of your claims about C were mistaken and caused by basic misunderstanding of the C philisophy and goals. BTW, fix your time _and_ your timezone. Vadik. -- Would like to kill a certain group of users. -- UNIX tech support call = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "C" is standartizied - In your dreams!
> > I know C, thank you. > > Then why did you ask? I am not asking, you #%@^! , I am giving you examples. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sprintf, not sscanf, incompability
> > On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Ury Segal wrote: > > > char * sprintf( s, format, va_list); > > Oh. Yet another ANSI incompatibility from Sun Microsystems? You > should probably forgive these guys. They were born before ANSI C > and before POSIX. Modern BSD systems return int, as expected. It is NOT from Sun. It is from BSD. > > > > C doesn't even have a standard, on a function many of us > > > used many times ( you know it is a security hazard, yes ?) > > > > Not if you're careful. > > And note, for example, that many portable programs come with their own > > sprintf-like functionality. Do not use this function. toy may be carefull, bu the prgrammer who change the code 3 years after you leave the company may not be. At least, use snprintf > > To put it simple, some parts of the C standard suck hard, and I > mean both language per se and the standard C library. But > overall, in my opinion, C is a nice language. Wow. After a long time I managed to bang some sense itto heads. > > > You won't find a single soul here that will > > tell you it is not. So? Python is not perfect, Scheme is not perfect, > > Smalltalk is not perfect, C++ is downright horrible. Live with it. > > But Perl has an elegant syntax! > > > > Vadik. > > -- > I was part of that strange race of people aptly described as spending > their lives doing things they detest to make money they don't want to > buy things they don't need to impress people they dislike. > -- Emile Henry Gauvreay > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
COME ON!
Tell me moshe, I come and show you a difference in one the most basic functions in the C "standard" IO library anre not standartized. Now, you come and tell me, that the difference in compilers is that "they handle your mistakes differently". 1) Which of the two sprintf definition is the mistake? 2) Did you know that handling error cases are a BIG part of the standard ? Moshe, relax, Python is not 10% of what C++ is. Leave this crusade for Python. All language are problematic in all areas. --ury = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Backup Solutions
You should also consider ARCservIT for Linux: http://www.cai.com/arcserveit/arc_linux_ae.htm. If it's half as good as the Windows version, I would go for it. Henry - Original Message - From: "Schlomo Schapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Linux-IL Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 4:23 PM Subject: RFC: Backup Solutions > Hi list, > > I would like to hear comments about commercial Linux Backup Solutions (for > a mixed Linux/Windows network). > > After a quick search of the web I found three main candidates: > - Arkeia (by Know) www.arkeia.com > - Backup Professional (by Unitrends) www.unitrends.com > - NovaNet 8 (by NovaStor) www.network-backup.com > > BRU falls out because it doesn't seem to have a native Windows client, > same for amanda (also amanda is really not user friendly). SMB is the > thinkable worst tool to backup open files or the registry (as keys). > > Important aspects for me: > - Reliable (doesn't get stuck by missing clients > - User friendly (so that also the non-sysadmin can go and restore some > files), meaning having a nice GUI with file and backuped-files browser > where you can choose the 5 day old version of your file and click a button > and it gets restored. > - Easy to install and manage > - Easy to migrate to another computer > - Native Client support (Win9x, WinNT, Win2K) > - Extensive scripting support (run stuff before/after backup, wait with > backup if neccessary etc.) > > I would most of all like to hear from people who actually use(d) or > try(d) one or several of the products and can give me a hands-on > experience report. > > > Thanks a lot, > Schlomo > > -- > Schlomo Schapiro > Computation Authority > Hebrew University of Jerusalem > > Tel: ++972 / 2 / 65-84404 > Fax: 65-27349 > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > WWW: http://shum.cc.huji.ac.il/~schapiro = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE-2 and Logic Hebrew Progress
Hi Herouth, Indeed, there are few bugs on it and I'm planning to talk to lars (who does the Logical hebrew rendering in KDE-2).. You may want to look here: http://www.geocities.com/heunique/kde2/msn-hebrew.png After lots of struggle, I managed to get into MSN Israel, and in the latest CVS snapshots, you can see the menus on the web site are also in Hebrew :) Hetz Herouth Maoz wrote: > > Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > I just wanted to show you how KDE-2 is progressing with the Logical > > Hebrew.. > > Isn't that a problem with the display of parentheses down the site you showed? > I use Gnome at the moment, so I can't check it out myself, but if this is a > real problem, it should probably be reported to the developers. > > Herouth > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Hetz Ben Hamo Intelligence, Aduva = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE-2 and Logic Hebrew Progress
Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > > Hi All, > > I just wanted to show you how KDE-2 is progressing with the Logical > Hebrew.. Isn't that a problem with the display of parentheses down the site you showed? I use Gnome at the moment, so I can't check it out myself, but if this is a real problem, it should probably be reported to the developers. Herouth = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sprintf, not sscanf, incompability
> > On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Ury Segal wrote: > > > char * sprintf( s, format, va_list); > > Oh. Yet another ANSI incompatibility from Sun Microsystems? You > should probably forgive these guys. They were born before ANSI C > and before POSIX. Modern BSD systems return int, as expected. This behavior exists in SunOS 4.x (and presumably earlier versions). Sprintf() returned `int' as far as the Seventh Edition release of UNIX from Bell Labs. This is noted in the documentation of SunOS 4.x, and indeed its contains the following comment /* @(#)stdio.h 1.16 89/12/29 SMI; from UCB 1.4 06/30/83*/ The committee to standardize the C language was commissioned by ANSI on 1983. The work wasn't published until 1990. So what did you expect them to do, exactly? They chose one behavior and everyone followed. (Looking at CVS histories of BSD systems, they appear to have had `int' returning sprintf() at the early 1990s.) Historical artifacts not withstanding, there are many inter-operability problems that are caused because the standard bodies are too slow or confused (e.g. snprintf()) and so implementors just go ahead and do their own thing. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sprintf, not sscanf, incompability
On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Vadim Vygonets wrote: > > You won't find a single soul here that will > > tell you it is not. So? Python is not perfect, Scheme is not perfect, > > Smalltalk is not perfect, C++ is downright horrible. Live with it. > > But Perl has an elegant syntax! For weird enough definitions of "elegant" and "syntax" -- Moshe Zadka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There is no IGLU cabal. http://advogato.org/person/moshez = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux/Open Source Writer/Editor Needed
Dear IGLU cabalists and hangers-on: Andover.net, publisher of Slashdot, freshmeat, and other Web sites, needs a part-time writer/editor to select news submissions and cover breaking news stories during hours most US-ians are asleep but most Israelis are awake. This is for a new site we're launching that will have a more global emphasis than Slashdot. Some work on freshmeat may also be available. I need a person who is familiar with Linux, *BSD, Open Source and Free Software, and keeps up on happenings *worldwide* that relate to these topics. I also expect professional-level writing skill (in English), and I don't mean that cool e-mail you wrote to your aunt last week; I want to see a reasonably large amount of published work from you, although it doesn't necessarily have to be in professional online publications. Another major characteristic I must have is extreme reliability. The person(s) we select will be working at hours when other members of our krewe are asleep. It takes an exceptional level of self-discipline to work from home without supervision. Some people have it, some don't. If you respond to this, please be someone who gets up and does what you have to do on your own without a boss standing over your shoulder. Pay will be hourly, in U.S. dollars, and will be in line with what U.S. magazines pay for similar duties. We have about 20 hours per week available now. The ability to gather and report news rapidly and accurately by e-mail and phone will quickly lead to bylined articles, fame, higher pay, more hours etc. I would love to hear from you *if* you meet the qualifications outlined above. - Robin 'Roblimo' Miller Editor - in - Chief http://Andover.net = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Job Offer
Hi, Breakthrough Ltd is a young consulting company providing System Administration, Project Management and Software Development services for Linux/Unix/Windows platforms. Breakthrough is looking for bright and motivated workers: Beginner Highly Motivated, Nice, Full/Part Time, Knowlege in one or more: C/C++, Java, Windows, Linux, any Unix, TCP/IP, Technical Skills Experienced --- 1+ years experience, Highly Motivated, Nice, Full/Part Time, Knowlege in one or more: C/C++, Java, Windows, Linux, any Unix, TCP/IP, Technical Skills Expert -- 5+ years experience, Highly Motivated, Nice, Full/Part Time, Good Knowlege in most of: C/C++, Java, Windows, Linux, any Unix, TCP/IP, Technical Skills, Experience in: Software Engineering, Software Development Cycle, Customer Relations Sincerely, Alex Rier| Linux Consultant | Tel: +972-52-442549 Breakthrough Ltd.| FAX: +972-3-5364060 http://www.breakt.co.il | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sprintf, not sscanf, incompability
Quoth Moshe Zadka on Tue, Jul 25, 2000: > On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Ury Segal wrote: > > char * sprintf( s, format, va_list); Oh. Yet another ANSI incompatibility from Sun Microsystems? You should probably forgive these guys. They were born before ANSI C and before POSIX. Modern BSD systems return int, as expected. > > C doesn't even have a standard, on a function many of us > > used many times ( you know it is a security hazard, yes ?) > > Not if you're careful. > And note, for example, that many portable programs come with their own > sprintf-like functionality. snprintf() and asprintf() from modern BSDs are a step in the right direction. As are strlcpy() and strlcat(), because strncpy() and strncat() are definitely not something you would like to use in your programs. > Yes, C is sorely lacking. To put it simple, some parts of the C standard suck hard, and I mean both language per se and the standard C library. But overall, in my opinion, C is a nice language. > You won't find a single soul here that will > tell you it is not. So? Python is not perfect, Scheme is not perfect, > Smalltalk is not perfect, C++ is downright horrible. Live with it. But Perl has an elegant syntax! Vadik. -- I was part of that strange race of people aptly described as spending their lives doing things they detest to make money they don't want to buy things they don't need to impress people they dislike. -- Emile Henry Gauvreay = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE-2 and Logic Hebrew Progress
HI I tried to see hebrew on kde2 ... I installed the ttf server etc .. it was still dificult to configure hebrew fonts ... i manged to do so, i insteadled the hebrew i18l ( or whatever it is called ) and all my hebrew was mirrord ... in urls i was able to see logical hebrew ( microsoft/israel ) but not visual ( walla ) only entered the url, nothing more regards erez. Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > I'm just exchanging some emails with the kde dev guys about it... > > Did you use the user agent to access the other sites? What parameters > did you put inside? can you give an example?? > > Thanks > Hetz > > Erez Doron wrote: > > > > logical hebrew is grate under kde2. but I can not see visual hebrew ... > > > > regards > > erez. > > -- > Hetz Ben Hamo > Intelligence, Aduva = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE-2 and Logic Hebrew Progress
I'm just exchanging some emails with the kde dev guys about it... Did you use the user agent to access the other sites? What parameters did you put inside? can you give an example?? Thanks Hetz Erez Doron wrote: > > logical hebrew is grate under kde2. but I can not see visual hebrew ... > > regards > erez. -- Hetz Ben Hamo Intelligence, Aduva = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE-2 and Logic Hebrew Progress
logical hebrew is grate under kde2. but I can not see visual hebrew ... regards erez. Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > Hi All, > > I just wanted to show you how KDE-2 is progressing with the Logical > Hebrew.. > > Please take a look at: > http://www.geocities.com/heunique/kde2/heb-explorer.png > > I know the pic is a bit cinycal - so save the flames > > BTW: how is mozilla (Linux) and Logical Hebrew in those days? :)) > > -- > Hetz Ben Hamo > Intelligence, Aduva > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SSH and Debian
Gaal Yahas wrote:
>
> > find the package that includes a certain file, go to
> > http://packages.debian.org/ and use the bottom search box. (The top
> > one allows you to search descriptions of packages.)
>
> Okay, thanks! Is there a command line tool to query that search
> engine that you know of?
>
take this quicky:
sorry for lack of featurs, deadlines bite...
lines are numbered, so that mailers wont mangle the long line...
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1. #!/bin/sh
2. TMPFILE=/tmp/$0.html
3. wget -O ${TMPFILE}
"http://cgi.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=${1}&searchon=names&version=all&release=all"
>/dev/null 2>&1
4. lynx $TMPFILE
5. rm $TMPFILE
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>
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systems programmer, Mercury Interactive/RND/Conduct/core
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Re: KDE stops create any windows
> Lev Olshvang wrote: > > >Hello ! > > > > I use Mandrake 7.0 KDE desktop. > > > > >From some moment, any attempt to create console window or any > > other selected from menu applications does nothing. I'm using kde 1.1.something at work on a daily basis. I'm also noticing times at which I cant lunch new terminal's etc via the panel, so I think it's "normal". > > > > Existing windows behaves normal. same for me. restarting kde sets all happy. > > > > I`d like to know whether it is possible to trace KDE events and actions > > ? dont know (strace ? doesn't seem to apply here), but you'll make the kde team happy if you would ! :-) boaz. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Language Standards - Do they exist?
I was involved in creating some standards in my life, some of them were used, others were left to die in my hard-drive. I must say that working on a standard is a real HELL!!! While reading a standard is sometimes boring, writing one can kill you. A standard is a set of rules widely used and implemented. There is no point for having a standard if it is not WIDELY used. An example for this is the Smalltalk language: Any diffrent implementation is COMPLETELY diffrent from any other. It is easier to rewrite the application than to port it from one Smalltalk implementation to another. This problem is now addressed buy http://www.smalltalk.com - but I personaly see almost no progress (especially because I haven't written "real" Smalltalk code for around a year). Realitivily to Smalltalk both C and C++ have standards which are widely implemented. The proof for it is that if you write a simple calculagte application in C or C++ compiling it with another compiler is extremely easy, while a calculator application written in Smalltalk will surely not work with a diffrent implementation, even with minor changes. Not all of the C/C++ standard is followed by all compilers. Usually the commercial compiler follow 99% of the standard but has some extra futures (like BORLAND C/C++). If a hacker makes use of those futures than porting the code will usually require non-minor changes to the code. The gnu compiler, g++, doesn't add any special futures to the languages and stirctly follows the standard (for all of you stupid guys: A C++ guru told this!). This makes code written in g++ pritty easy portable (my own exprience with a pretty big project). Some compilers (like BORLAND) add very stange futures which make the code importable. For example, in one compiler I once used you could do something like this: i = new int[i_a][i_b]; while in g++ I had to chane such things to: i = new int*[i_a]; for (int counter = 0; counter < i_a; counter++) i[counter] = new int[i_b]; Buy, Ilya 'rilel' Khayutin __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KDE-2 and Logic Hebrew Progress
Hi All, I just wanted to show you how KDE-2 is progressing with the Logical Hebrew.. Please take a look at: http://www.geocities.com/heunique/kde2/heb-explorer.png I know the pic is a bit cinycal - so save the flames BTW: how is mozilla (Linux) and Logical Hebrew in those days? :)) -- Hetz Ben Hamo Intelligence, Aduva = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can't get mail
On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, esheena wrote:
> Hi
> I installed linux red-hat 6.2 on the pc which is in the local network i
> created the user.
> i can send mail out but when i send mail from other station to the new
> station i get areturn mail
> with the following message
>- Transcript of session follows -
> .. while talking to tlvco9.tlv-co.il.dhl.com.:
> >>> RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> <<< 550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Relaying denied
> 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown
>
> What i need to do for getting mail
>
> Thanks
> ELi Sheena
>
>
> =
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> the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command
> echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
See /etc/mail/relay_domains or /etc/mail/relay_allow. There is
documentation on this http://www.sendmail.org/tips/relaying.html
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can't get mail
Hi I installed linux red-hat 6.2 on the pc which is in the local network i created the user. i can send mail out but when i send mail from other station to the new station i get areturn mail with the following message - Transcript of session follows - .. while talking to tlvco9.tlv-co.il.dhl.com.: >>> RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <<< 550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Relaying denied 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED] User unknown What i need to do for getting mail Thanks ELi Sheena = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OO no... here we gOO again...
Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo wrote: > > IA>> OmerM started something... > IA>> > IA>> http://iglu.org.il:8080/Zen/SchemeBook > IA>> > > No, I mean dead-tree book. The thing you can read while... let's say stuck > in traffic jam on Jabotinsky street. Something like the Camel (or maybe > the Llama) book. > following can do (in order of familiarity with Scheme) The Little Schemer, by Dan Friedman and friends A nice introduction to Scheme, little childish, IMHO, but advances fast Structure and interpretation of computer programs by Abelson and Sussman Classical text about programming languages, little boring IMHO, but almost everyone I know swears that *this is THE book* on topic. The Seasoned Schemer by Dan Friendman and friends Interesting and fresh book, introduces unusual aspects of programming Essentials of Programming Languages by Dan Friendman and friends Heavyweight text on writing interpreters and compilers. During the course, introduces good Scheme techniques Other good (and even excellent) books exist, but those 4 are highly recommended. And, of course, when Scheme Book will be done, you will be able to print it. I even will convert it to TeX :) -- -- Omer Mussaev051-308-214 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] systems programmer, Mercury Interactive/RND/Conduct/core = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sprintf, not sscanf, incompability
On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Ury Segal wrote: > char * sprintf( s, format, va_list); > > > Here is the Linux sprintf, you can see it retuns int, the > number of char actually printed: > > http://www.linux.com/development/man/3/sprintf/ > > int sprintf(char *str, const char *format, ...); > > > Well, sorry for the confusion. > > C doesn't even have a standard, on a function many of us > used many times ( you know it is a security hazard, yes ?) Not if you're careful. And note, for example, that many portable programs come with their own sprintf-like functionality. > How can you come and tell me that C is a standard language. Because if one follows the standard, one has less chance to get bitten. (Simple, wasn't it?) Yes, C is sorely lacking. You won't find a single soul here that will tell you it is not. So? Python is not perfect, Scheme is not perfect, Smalltalk is not perfect, C++ is downright horrible. Live with it. -- Moshe Zadka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There is no IGLU cabal. http://advogato.org/person/moshez = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE stops create any windows
I saw it happening a couple of times under Mandrake 7. IIRC it meant that kfm went away. After restarting kfm everything became normal Lev Olshvang wrote: >Hello ! > > I use Mandrake 7.0 KDE desktop. > > >From some moment, any attempt to create console window or any > other selected from menu applications does nothing. > > Existing windows behaves normal. > > I`d like to know whether it is possible to trace KDE events and actions > ? > > Thx > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFC: Backup Solutions
Jonathan Ben-Avraham wrote:
> I have used Arkeia successfully at a number of sites and unsuccessfully
> once with the evaluation version. The problem with Arkeia IMHO is that
> when it doesn't work it is very difficult to debug. However *when* it
> works it works very well. It's compression and remote backup facilities
> are especially good.
That is an understatement. Arkeia barfing usually means total lack of a
possibility
to find out WHY it barfed. And yes, when it works, it works well.
However, it is quite expensive too (roughly 5k euro for a library-enabled
version
with a 40-client pack) and has little in the way of support in Israel.
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Re: áòðééï: Backup Solutions
Henry Ficher wrote:You should also consider ARCserveIT for Linux:
> http://www.cai.com/arcserveit/arc_linux_ae.htm
>
> I don't have any experience with the Linux version, but if it's half as
> good as the Windows NT or Novell versions, I would go for it.
Don't even THINK of using ArcSERVE for anything more than backing up
/var/spool/lpd.
Only /var/spool/lpd. Current versions of ArcSERVE have a 16M record limit on
the internal
transaction database. This results in roughly a six month backup database
rebuild requirement
on even a mederately busy system.
Caveat Emptor,
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Re: áòðééï: Backup Solutions
netvision wrote:
> Hi Schlomo,
>
> I wonder you didn't mention NetWorker product from Legato - www.legato.com ,
> that has the biggest installed base Worldwide, as well as above 250
> installations
> in Israel. The distributer of this product is "MBI, Advanced Computer
> solutions"
> and we are located at Ramat-Hasharon. You can get and evaluate the product,
> free of charge, for 30 days. For any advise and demonstrations, you can
> contact
> directly me or Mark Friedman, the Technical Support Manager.
>
> As a provider of storage solutions, we sell hardware equipment,
> such as tapes and JukeBoxes. Among the companies we represent:
> Exabayte & ATL.
I agree. Legato is great. Of course, it costs roughly US$50,000 BEFORE hardware
;-).
Avile, darling, thanks for omitting this info ;-).
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