Re: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > BTW: I saw some good reviews of recent OpenOffice builds. well, I got and installed it today. indeed it lets only the installer run it, obviously some serious design flaw. as for the binaries bunched together with the libraries and data, I can't complain because I understand it's a must for easier inter-platform curcurrent builds. as for product quality, I didn't have enough time to test it yet. - -- (@-Please do NOT cc: me answers posted also to the list //\Send me private mail at v_/_ to send me spam please use: cat spam.txt > /dev/hda -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://ira.abramov.org/pgp iEYEARECAAYFAjw+B8IACgkQMcwyzvePPuRFXwCeOxnw+ABRO536YJXaUcll+uEQ tPEAnAuvWwyg/k4GuDHGZTiiVzEDzrol =Ds9F -END PGP SIGNATURE- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
On 10 Jan 2002, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Haven't used it since 5.1, but with that version you installed SO as root > > and then install SO as a user. In the cobwebs of my mind is that there > > was a special option (possibly -net) that you had to specify for the root > > install. > > It was /net up to and including 5.1, -net with 5.2. I did read the docs... > > Running the downloaded binary with -net (I re-installed completely) > did not change anything. Running setup -net as root after that offered > me to modify the installation but I didn't see anything relevant in > the list of (installed) modules that was offered. Running setup as a > user told me SO was already installed and the only option was to > finish the program... You have completely deleted the system files before reinstalling. Have you also completely deleted the user setup files? BTW: I saw some good reviews of recent OpenOffice builds. -- Tzafrir Cohen/"\ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]\ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign Taub 229, 972-4-829-3942, X Against HTML Mail http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir / \ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lindows screenshots
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > Well, let me tell you this: > > Most of Wine developers are hired by those companies who develop wine - > Transgaming, Code-Weavers, and I think Lindows got some people too > > So far - Transgaming & Code Weavers have contributed lots of work. Just > recently transgaming had contributed the major speed enhanced to 2D display, > some interprocess work and other stuff, while CodeWeavers have donated most > of their work on the crossover plugin to the main tree of wine. > > As I write this email I'm chatting with Gavriel State, the CEO of transgaming > who is preparing now a 10,000 line diff patch to be merge back to wine, and > from what I hear from some source in Lindows - expect some major source code > contribution from them also once the product will be out. > > Of course - in all cases you won't get 100% of the code back (and they don't > have to) or their business will be shut down, but as you can see - they DO > contribute back.. > > BTW: GPL, LGPL licenses are definately not acceptable by any of thewine > developers. Actually, accorsing to the story linked here (the "digest" from kernel-cousines-wine), there was a group of developers who wanted to use LGPL. GPL is certainly not acceptable there, as they want to allow proprietary windows code to be linked against it. LGPL does not prevent that. It allows everybody to link whatever code they have with wine's libraries. However, if they make any changes to wine's libraries, they have to make those changes available. It can be even claimed to protect the "investment of code" that those companies have done. They are guaranteed that nobody else will hijack the codebase that they have written and contributed. [ I realise the obvious points that those companies have for using the X11 license, and releasing code when they feel they can/want. I'm not trying to argue with that ] -- Tzafrir Cohen/"\ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]\ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign Taub 229, 972-4-829-3942, X Against HTML Mail http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir / \ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Matitiahu Allouche wrote: > > Ira Abramov wrote (referring to Open Office): > > >anyone knows what happend to IBM's promisses to deliver Hebrew for it > >in December? > > The work (phase 1 of Hebrew support for the word processor) was completed > on time and has been made available fortesting internally to IBM > employees.The distribution outside IBM is currently on hold until some > legal points (copyrights etc...) are solved.I don't know when this will > happen.Brothers and sisters, join me in a silent prayer... Is this the only problem? See http://L10N.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?msgId=198068&listName=dev&JServSessionIdservlets=innncnbsr2 I see there that bidi support is part of a greater thing called CTL (Complext Text Layout , support for any language that is more complecated than ascii ;-)), and according to that post it will take some time for the whole CTL code to be merged into OpenOffice. [ This is, of course, an issue of OpenOffice's developers, and not of IBM's developers ] Is this correct? -- Tzafrir Cohen/"\ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]\ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign Taub 229, 972-4-829-3942, X Against HTML Mail http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir / \ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
I found and downloaded the full PDF StarOffice Setup Guide. The initial setup looks exactly right, but the user setup just does not give me the right dialogues. And there is no bin subdirectory in the installation tree - only programs... Time to go to Sun support forum? Sigh... -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] "If it ain't broken, it has not got enough features yet." = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Haven't used it since 5.1, but with that version you installed SO as root > and then install SO as a user. In the cobwebs of my mind is that there > was a special option (possibly -net) that you had to specify for the root > install. It was /net up to and including 5.1, -net with 5.2. I did read the docs... Running the downloaded binary with -net (I re-installed completely) did not change anything. Running setup -net as root after that offered me to modify the installation but I didn't see anything relevant in the list of (installed) modules that was offered. Running setup as a user told me SO was already installed and the only option was to finish the program... -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] "If it ain't broken, it has not got enough features yet." = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew
2 more questions: 1. fonts: Do I need to have my fonts from my Windows partition or does IBM contributes some fonts? 2. which Hebrew word files does it imports currently? Office 97, 2K and XP? are there any known problems in the filters? Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
Adi Stav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It needs to be run as the same user who installed it and who owns its > files. Err... I thought Sun did UNIX... Apparently, as Geoff Mendelson pointed out to me on a few occasions, Sun is a *hardware* company. -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] "If it ain't broken, it has not got enough features yet." = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lindows screenshots
Well, let me tell you this: Most of Wine developers are hired by those companies who develop wine - Transgaming, Code-Weavers, and I think Lindows got some people too So far - Transgaming & Code Weavers has contributed lots of work. Just recently transgaming had contributed the major speed enhanced to 2D display, some interprocess work and other stuff, while CodeWeavers have donated most of their work on the crossover plugin to the main tree of wine. As I write this email I'm chatting with Gavriel State, the CEO of transgaming who is preparing now a 10,000 line diff patch to be merge back to wine, and from what I hear from some source in Lindows - expect some major source code contribution from them also once the product will be out. Of course - in all cases you won't get 100% of the code back (and they don't have to) or their business will be shut down, but as you can see - they DO contribute back.. BTW: GPL, LGPL licenses are definately not acceptable by any of the wine developers. Hetz On Thursday 10 January 2002 13:03, Adi Stav wrote: > On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 07:01:46PM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > > Donno if you read the digest (I'm subscribed to the lists) - but the > > flamewars have been ended. License stays as it is. > > That was the final resolution, for now, but the fact is that the > issue did arise, i.e. a lot of developers felt the need for a > license change. You do /not/ see this on Apache, for example, > and certainly not on BSD, or on X11 (not that I know of, that is). > Wine is the only mature project I know whose license is > controvertial. I wonder what makes it different. Probably related to > them having many proprietary forks, but you don't see Apache having > those. Is it because Wine is an end-user product? Or is it a cultural > thing, with Windows culture influencing towards having less against > proprietary forks? > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Small C question
Thanks. The gettext package has a nice pdf file which explains it all. DAF Alex Shnitman wrote: > On Thu, 2002-01-10 at 17:34, Daniel Feiglin wrote: > > >>Several well known utilities like dd, fdformat use a function _(...) in the >>error reporting calls. What does it do and where is it documented? (Checked GNU >>V Library docs, cc docs - nothing doing.) >> > > It enables the program to output locale-dependent text. The GNU gettext > suite works with this macro. It has a define: > #define _(String) gettext(String) > It also has a tool that goes over your source files, extracts all the > strings that are wrapped this way, writes them all out to a .po file and > lets you create translations for all the text strings in your program. > Then if everything is configured properly, they will automatically be > loaded and used at runtime depending on the LANG environment variable. > (The gettext function takes care of that.) > > > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > > Never mind, I downloaded SO5.2 from www.sun.com, and ran the > setup (as root) on a RH7.1. > > The setup prompted me for a directory to install "StarOffice > components" in, so I chose /usr/local/lib/office52 which seemed > appropriate to me. The installation proceeded smoothly. I don't recall > any surprises along the way. In the end, I symlinked > /usr/local/bin/soffice to /usr/local/lib/office52/programs/soffice. > > Then I tried to start soffice (as a regular user). All I got was a > popup saying that it can't find /usr/local/lib/office52/user/sofficerc. > It offered me two buttons: Repair and Cancel. Repair throws me out > to the shell, with return code 0. Cancel brings up another popup that > says "Do you really want to exit the StarOffice 5.2 installation > program? [Yes/No]" which surprised me a lot, since it is installed > already (or at least I thought so). The shell return code is still 0. Haven't used it since 5.1, but with that version you installed SO as root and then install SO as a user. In the cobwebs of my mind is that there was a special option (possibly -net) that you had to specify for the root install. The user install created document directories, config files, etc, it did not install SO over again. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson Bloomberg L.P., BFM (Israel) 2 hours ahead of London, 7 hours ahead of New York. Tel: 972-(0)3-754-1158 Fax 972-(0)3-754-1236 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Small C question
On 10 Jan 2002, Alex Shnitman wrote: > On Thu, 2002-01-10 at 17:34, Daniel Feiglin wrote: > > > Several well known utilities like dd, fdformat use a function _(...) in the > > error reporting calls. What does it do and where is it documented? (Checked GNU > > V Library docs, cc docs - nothing doing.) > > It enables the program to output locale-dependent text. The GNU gettext > suite works with this macro. It has a define: > #define _(String) gettext(String) > It also has a tool that goes over your source files, extracts all the > strings that are wrapped this way, writes them all out to a .po file and > lets you create translations for all the text strings in your program. > Then if everything is configured properly, they will automatically be > loaded and used at runtime depending on the LANG environment variable. > (The gettext function takes care of that.) whoops. this is indeed the correct answer. i completely misparsed the original question. sorry if i confused anyone with the correct answer, albeit to a completely different question :) -- mulix http://vipe.technion.ac.il/~mulix/ http://syscalltrack.sf.net/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Small C question
On Thu, 2002-01-10 at 17:34, Daniel Feiglin wrote: > Several well known utilities like dd, fdformat use a function _(...) in the > error reporting calls. What does it do and where is it documented? (Checked GNU > V Library docs, cc docs - nothing doing.) It enables the program to output locale-dependent text. The GNU gettext suite works with this macro. It has a define: #define _(String) gettext(String) It also has a tool that goes over your source files, extracts all the strings that are wrapped this way, writes them all out to a .po file and lets you create translations for all the text strings in your program. Then if everything is configured properly, they will automatically be loaded and used at runtime depending on the LANG environment variable. (The gettext function takes care of that.) -- Alex Shnitman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://alexsh.hectic.net/ UIN 188956 PGP 0xEC5D619D / E1 F2 7B 6C A0 31 80 28 63 B8 02 BA 65 C7 8B BA = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Small C question
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Daniel Feiglin wrote: > Several well known utilities like dd, fdformat use a function _(...) > in the error reporting calls. What does it do and where is it > documented? (Checked GNU V Library docs, cc docs - nothing doing.) it's an application specific convention, so you wouldn't find it documented anywher. ususally used to wrap the actualy function with a macro which willa automatically supplies the file name, function name and line number. consider: [example snarfed from the pptp sources] void _fatal(char *func, char *file, int line, char *format, ...) __attribute__ ((format (printf, 4, 5))) __attribute__ ((noreturn)); #define fatal(format, args...) \ _fatal(__FUNCTION__,__FILE__,__LINE__, format , ## args) this code uses two gcc specific extensions, but i'm sure you get the point. -- mulix http://vipe.technion.ac.il/~mulix/ http://syscalltrack.sf.net/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Small C question
Several well known utilities like dd, fdformat use a function _(...) in the error reporting calls. What does it do and where is it documented? (Checked GNU V Library docs, cc docs - nothing doing.) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hebrew Support for Grip?
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 06:35:52AM +0200, Amichai Rotman wrote: > Hello IGLUs, > > I would like to rip my hebrew CDs, but I get giberish for the names of the > album and song when querying the CDDB. > > Funny thing - when using RealJukeBox CDDB under M$ I get the correct info in > english... I think Grip nowadays uses FreeDB (www.freedb.org), ever since cddb.com changed their protocol and begun asking for money. So that's reasonable that RealJukebox delivers different results from CDDB than Grip does from FreeDB -- it's simply different people who typed the info down into the databases. > Any way to make it work ? Hmm, LC_ALL=he_IL grip might work (first make sure you have a good Hebrew locale by typing: localedef -f ISO-8859-8 -i he_IL -u he_IL he_IL as root). = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice installation (was: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?)
Oleg Goldshmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > StarOffice users of Israel, please tell me what have I screwed up? At the risk of increasing noise with an evident addition - I didn't find anything useful in the docs. -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] "If it ain't broken, it has not got enough features yet." = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew
I am not sure what I am allowed to say before the legal patrol comes to arrest me. Anyway, as long as it (or I) last... Ira Abramov asked: - is it for Open Office or just the commercial StarOffice? Answer: OpenOffice - does it import Hebrew winWord? Answer: yes! - is the support only for the wordproc or also for the presentation and other tools? Answer: only the wordproc for this cycle - is it for editing AND interface (menus) or can I mix and match? Answer: I am not sure what you mean. We have not translated the interface, a fortiori we have not mirrored it. Shalom (Regards), Mati Bidi Architect Globalization Center Of Competency - Bidirectional Scripts IBM Israel Phone: +972 2 5870999 ext. 1202Fax: +972 2 5870333 Mobile: +972 52 554160 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Matitiahu Allouche wrote: > employees. The distribution outside IBM is currently on hold until some > legal points (copyrights etc...) are solved. I don't know when this will > happen. Brothers and sisters, join me in a silent prayer... well, if we can't have the program, we can interrogate Mati in the meantime :) - is it for Open Office or just the commercial StarOffice? - does it import Hebrew winWord? - is the support only for the wordproc or also for the presentation and other tools? - is it for editing AND interface (menus) or can I mix and match? -- (@-Please do NOT cc: me answers posted also to the list //\Send me private mail at v_/_ to send me spam please use: cat spam.txt > /dev/hda = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
Ira Abramov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Please note that no rights to distribute or integrate StarOffice with > your products or services are granted unless official agreements have > been executed." Never mind, I downloaded SO5.2 from www.sun.com, and ran the setup (as root) on a RH7.1. The setup prompted me for a directory to install "StarOffice components" in, so I chose /usr/local/lib/office52 which seemed appropriate to me. The installation proceeded smoothly. I don't recall any surprises along the way. In the end, I symlinked /usr/local/bin/soffice to /usr/local/lib/office52/programs/soffice. Then I tried to start soffice (as a regular user). All I got was a popup saying that it can't find /usr/local/lib/office52/user/sofficerc. It offered me two buttons: Repair and Cancel. Repair throws me out to the shell, with return code 0. Cancel brings up another popup that says "Do you really want to exit the StarOffice 5.2 installation program? [Yes/No]" which surprised me a lot, since it is installed already (or at least I thought so). The shell return code is still 0. I figured that the file (which was there, of course) had wrong permissions, (it was 644), so I changed it to 666. Now soffice silently presents me with a shell prompt, with 0 return code. As root, it starts normally. I have not tried to do anything yet, because I do not intend to do anything with it as root. StarOffice users of Israel, please tell me what have I screwed up? -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] "If it ain't broken, it has not got enough features yet." = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
Ira Abramov wrote (referring to Open Office): >anyone knows what happend to IBM's promisses to deliver Hebrew for it >in December? The work (phase 1 of Hebrew support for the word processor) was completed on time and has been made available for testing internally to IBM employees. The distribution outside IBM is currently on hold until some legal points (copyrights etc...) are solved. I don't know when this will happen. Brothers and sisters, join me in a silent prayer... Shalom (Regards), Mati Bidi Architect Globalization Center Of Competency - Bidirectional Scripts IBM Israel Phone: +972 2 5870999 ext. 1202Fax: +972 2 5870333 Mobile: +972 52 554160 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Another linux-related trademark case (was: Lindows screenshots)
Just to throw another current ridiculous-sounding trademark case into the pile (much more ridiculous that [LW]indows IMHO, but IANAL): http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/23614.html The Reg makes it sound like a pure blackmail that was not worth SuSE's while to go to court about. -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] "If it ain't broken, it has not got enough features yet." = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
Ira Abramov wrote: > anyone knows what happend to IBM's promisses to deliver Hebrew for it > in December? What December? The following? I believe they will meet this promise. But you should wait 11 months before being sure... ;-) [you know; software business... All of us have difficulties in supplying the stuff in the promised time...] -- Eli Marmor [EMAIL PROTECTED] CTO, Founder Netmask (El-Mar) Internet Technologies Ltd. __ Tel.: +972-9-766-1020 8 Yad-Harutzim St. Fax.: +972-9-766-1314 P.O.B. 7004 Mobile: +972-50-23-7338 Kfar-Saba 44641, Israel = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: parport
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, guy keren wrote: > > On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Efraim Yawitz wrote: > > > When I try, as root to do tunelp /dev/lp0, I get: > > > > /dev/lp0 Device or resource busy > > most likely because 'lpd' is running and holding the define busy. try to > kill lpd and check again, but not before you checked the bios settings > with regards to the message above. > This was the answer. (By the way, I've made many searches of the web for "/dev/lp0 Device or resource busy" and other stuff without finding anything helpful.) I killed lpd and now at least I can do "cat foo.txt>/dev/lp0" and see stuff coming out, showing that there is no hw prob. Thanks very much. You saved me a trip to a repairman and paying him to say, "Parallel port looks OK." As far as the BIOS is concerned, it doesn't give me much choice on configuring the parport, only the port address and "PS/2 vs. AT." (This is a Dell machine.) Maybe I'm missing something there, but I've looked a number of times. > > I have Windows NT 4.0 on the same machine, and it doesn't seem to detect > > the parport at all. > > could be the same settings problem. or a hardware problem. > Now I have to figure out what's going on on NT. Oh, well... > -- > guy > In any case, what I really was trying to do was to run the Bar-Ilan Responsa program with its damn HASP plug on WINE, but that's still giving me the same "No response from NetHasp server." Any WINE gurus out there with advice? TIA, Ephraim = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /proc mem files
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
>
> And why do you think process 555 exists?
Because it's in the /proc directory, and ps shows it.
>
> Does the /proc/self/mem cause the same problem too?
Yes.
>
> On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Efraim Yawitz wrote:
>
> > What I've been doing is something like 'cat /proc/555/mem' with the
> > problems mentioned.
> >
In any case, I saw the following code in fs/proc/mem.c which I think
answers the question. If I understand correctly, only a parent of the
process can examine its memory. Is that right? Here's the code:
/* Allow accesses only under the same circumstances
* that we would allow ptrace to work.
*/
if (tsk) {
if (!(tsk->flags & PF_PTRACED)
|| tsk->state != TASK_STOPPED
|| tsk->p_pptr != current)
tsk = NULL;
}
Ephraim
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Re: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Schlomo Schapiro wrote: > if you buy SuSE, you get SO RPMs. > > I got it mirrored on ftp://schapiro.org is anyone concerned with legalities of their actions in this country anymore? http://www.sun.com/software/star/staroffice/starofficenow/index.html "Please note that no rights to distribute or integrate StarOffice with your products or services are granted unless official agreements have been executed." infact, SO6 is not available from the sun.com site since the beta ended on Dec-31. however, http://www.openoffice.org/ is released under the LGPL, so you CAN distribute it. I donno if it's worth it, but this post got my curiosity going, and the latest build is on its way here :) http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/main_faq_new_p4.html looking at their release notes, linux seems to be the platofrm with the most troubles, still. anyone knows what happend to IBM's promisses to deliver Hebrew for it in December? -- (@-Please do NOT cc: me answers posted also to the list //\Send me private mail at v_/_ to send me spam please use: cat spam.txt > /dev/hda = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Solved: https(443) and ADSL/masquerading
Hi everyone, I noticed that in the last few days the question of the proper MTU for ADSL connections was raised, with some remarks about corrections/additions to the HOWTO . so: 1) We plan to rewrite the HOWTO, so we will take the remarks into consideration. 2) the current version of the howto has, in the section about ip masquerading, the following sentence: MAKE SURE THAT YOU READ THE DOCUMENT IN http://damyen.technion.ac.il/~dani/adsl-mtu.txt AND THAT YOU IMPLEMENT ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATION THERE. FAILING TO DO SO WILL CAUSE CONNECTIVITY PROBLEMS FOR STATIONS IN THE MASQUERADED NETWORK. I believe that the Linux comunity can: a) read and understand that document. And remember: knowledge is power! b) implement the rccomandetions therein (even without understanding). and the recommandations are: It is recommanded that hosts in nat/routed/masqueraded environment will be set up with maximum MTU of 1460 bytes (or whatever the ppp mtu is ), and thus the advertized maxmimum segment size will be 1420 bytes. This will ensure that no atempt (during path MTU discovery) to send packets larger than the tunnel's MTU will be done. This may be acheaved with IPtables without changing the MTU of the internal station by adding a rule of TCPMSS --clump-mss-to-pmtu (see the example in the file fw-adsl.sh ). Anyway, my next lecture in Haifux (22-1-2002) will cover (and clear up ?) this topic. Reinventing the wheel is usualy somewhat frastrating ... Dani = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
if you buy SuSE, you get SO RPMs. I got it mirrored on ftp://schapiro.org Schlomo - Original Message - From: "Oleg Goldshmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 4:23 PM Subject: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM? > > Is there an Israeli mirror of StarOffice? > > Is StarOffice distributed via RPM anywhere? I only found > an Italian RPM at > > http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/Madeinlinux/Applicazioni_Office.html > > -- > Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "If it ain't broken, it has not got enough features yet." > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Porting from unix to linux
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, b g wrote: > Sorry, just forgotten one thing: > deleting the call to the function in main() solves the crush problem, but > since this is the key function inthe whole program this is not an option this is quite funny. you try to debug a problem using gdb - a _source_ level debugger, without reading the source. how's that supposed to work? how is _anyone_ supposed to even try to help you without seeing the source code? sometimes (not too uncommonly) a stack dump alone is enough. and sometimes not. so to blindly make a suggestion - try compiling it with 'kgcc' instead of 'gc' and see if it crashes the same way. kgcc is egcs 2.96.1, while 'gcc' on redhat 7.X is some otherwise unreleased version of gcc - which redhat was "kind" enough to release with their systems. if it crashes even when compiled with 'kgcc' (don't forget to clean all old object files before using kgcc), then you most likely have a bug. porting a program to a different platform is not just getting it to compile - its also making it run the same, and you sound too surprised about the program not working :) -- guy "For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lindows screenshots
For those of you who don't read Slashdot, here's a link to a very interesting story on the subject. http://www.siliconvalley.com/docs/opinion/columns/dg010902.htm = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
