RedHat equivalent of make-kpkg?

2003-12-02 Thread linux-il
Is there any red-hat equivalent for Debian's make-kpkg?

For those who don't know what it is - make-kpkg allows one to take a
vanilla kernel source and build .deb files for the kernel image,
modules etc.
It just looks a bit wierd to me that such an important part of the
system like the kernel image should just be cp(1)'ed over to /vmlinux
and linked manually, without making the RPM database aware of the
change and helping me keep track of the installed kernels on the system.
Thanks,

--Amos



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Re: Debian.org Hacked

2003-12-02 Thread Gal Gur-Arie

The Debian Projecthttp://www.debian.org/
Debian Investigation Report [EMAIL PROTECTED]
December 2nd, 2003

Debian Investigation Report after Server Compromises

The Debian administration team and security experts are finally able
to pinpoint the method used to break-in into four project machines.
However, the person who did this has not yet been uncovered.
The package archives were not altered by the intruder.

The Debian administration and security teams have checked these
archives (security, us, non-us) quite early on in the investigation
and re-installation process.  That's why the project was able to open
up the security archive again and confirm that the stable update
(3.0r2) wasn't compromised.
If the project had anticipated to get compromised at the same time the
stable update was implemented, the involved people would have
postponed it.  However, the updated packages were already installed in
the stable archive and mirror servers at the time the break-ins were
discovered, so it wasn't possible to hold it back anymore.
Several methods based on different control data were used to verify
the packages and to ensure that the archives weren't altered by the
attacker:
. externally stored lists of MD5 sums accumulated over the past weeks
  on not compromised machines
. digitally signed .changes files from external debian-devel-changes
  archives on not compromised machines
. digitally signed .changes files on the respective archive servers
. externally stored mirror log files
Timeline

Below is the timeline of discovery and recovery of the compromised
machines.  All times are in UTC.  Some times are only estimates since
our conversation did not contain exact timestamps.
  Sep 28  01:33  Linus Torvalds releases 2.6.0-test6 with do_brk() fix
  Oct 02  05:18  Marcello Tosatti applies do_brk() boundary check
  Nov 19  17:00  Attacker logs into klecker with sniffed password
  Nov 19  17:08  Root-kit installed on klecker
  Nov 19  17:20  Attacker logs into master with same sniffed password
  Nov 19  17:47  Root-kit installed on master
  Nov 19  18:30  Attacker logs into murphy with service account from master
  Nov 19  18:35  Root-kit installed on murphy
  Nov 19  19:25  Oopses on murphy start
  Nov 20  05:38  Oopses on master start
  Nov 20  20:00  Discovery of Oopses on master and murphy
  Nov 20  20:54  Root-kit installed on gluck
  Nov 20  22:00  Confirmation that debian.org was compromised
  Nov 21  00:00  Deactivation of all accounts
  Nov 21  00:34  Shut down security.debian.org
  Nov 21  04:00  Shut down gluck (www, cvs, people, ddtp)
  Nov 21  08:30  Point www.debian.org to www.de.debian.org
  Nov 21  10:45  Public announcement
  Nov 21  16:47  Developer information updated
  Nov 21  17:10  Shut down murphy (lists)
  Nov 22  02:41  security.debian.org is back online
  Nov 25  07:40  lists.debian.org is back online
  Nov 28  22:39  Linux 2.4.23 released
Discovery

On the evening (GMT) of Thursday, November 20th, the admin team
noticed several kernel oopses on master.  Since that system was
running without problems for a long time, the system was about to be
taken into maintenance for deeper investigation of potential hardware
problems.  However, at the same time, a second machine, murphy, was
experiencing exactly the same problems, which made the admins
suspicious.
Also, klecker, murphy and gluck have "Advanced Intrusion Detection
Environment" (package aide) installed to monitor filesystem changes
and at around the same time it started warning that /sbin/init had
been replaced and that the mtime and ctime values for
/usr/lib/locale/en_US had changed.
Further investigation revealed the cause for both these problems to be
the SucKIT root-kit.  It includes password sniffing and detection
evasion capabilities (i.e. tools to hide processes and files) which
are installed directly into the kernel, which in turn caused the
oopses that were noticed.
Detailed Attack Analysis

On Wednesday, November 19th, at approximately 5pm GMT, a sniffed
password was used to log into an unprivileged developer account on the
host klecker (.debian.org).  The attacker then retrieved the source
code through HTTP for an (at that time) unknown local kernel exploit
and gained root permissions via this exploit.  Afterwards, the SucKIT
root-kit was installed.
The same account and password data were then used to log into the
machine master, to gain root permissions with the same exploit and
also to install the SucKIT root-kit.
The attacker then tried to get access to the host murphy with the same
account.  This failed because murphy is a restricted machine and its
only purpose is to act as list server to which only a small subset of
developers can log into.  Since the initial login attempt didn't work
the person used his root access on m

Re: Debian.org Hacked

2003-12-02 Thread Boaz Rymland
the CNet article summarizing it:

http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-5112427.html?tag=nefd_top

Shaul Karl wrote:

 For those who missed it, the Debian machines were hacked because of a
combination of a sniffed password and a local root exploit. The hole is
believed to be only locally exploitable, not remotely. More details on
this exploit are at
 	http://isec.pl/vulnerabilities/isec-0012-do_brk.txt

 Among other things, it says that:

 Impact:
 ===
   
 Successful exploitation of do_brk() leads to full compromise of
 vulnerable system, including gaining full uid 0 privileges,
 possibility of kernel code and data structures modification as
 well as kernel-level (ring0) code execution.
   
 Tested and successfully exploited kernel versions include:
   
   o  2.4.20-18.9 as shipped with RedHat 9.0
   o  2.4.22 (vanila)
   o  2.4.22 with grsecurity patch
   
 There is no known reliable workaround for this vulnerability.
 We recommend upgrading to the most recent kernel version (so far
 the 2.4.23 kernel) on all vulnerable systems.
		

 As an aside, I wonder how many people here are using Linux to grant
other people full shell account? How many full shell users do they have?
 



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Re: Debian.org Hacked

2003-12-02 Thread Shaul Karl
  For those who missed it, the Debian machines were hacked because of a
combination of a sniffed password and a local root exploit. The hole is
believed to be only locally exploitable, not remotely. More details on
this exploit are at

http://isec.pl/vulnerabilities/isec-0012-do_brk.txt

  Among other things, it says that:

  Impact:
  ===

  Successful exploitation of do_brk() leads to full compromise of
  vulnerable system, including gaining full uid 0 privileges,
  possibility of kernel code and data structures modification as
  well as kernel-level (ring0) code execution.

  Tested and successfully exploited kernel versions include:

o  2.4.20-18.9 as shipped with RedHat 9.0
o  2.4.22 (vanila)
o  2.4.22 with grsecurity patch

  There is no known reliable workaround for this vulnerability.
  We recommend upgrading to the most recent kernel version (so far
  the 2.4.23 kernel) on all vulnerable systems.


  As an aside, I wonder how many people here are using Linux to grant
other people full shell account? How many full shell users do they have?

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Re: MSN messanger for linux and linux compatible webcam

2003-12-02 Thread Ez-Aton
You should use either UPNP daemon on the Linux NAT, or try to play with 
OpenH323 server on the NAT.

Ez.

On Tuesday 02 December 2003 19:52, Oron Peled wrote:
> On Tuesday 02 December 2003 12:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Which version of gnomemeeting it that?
>
> $ gnomemeeting --version
> Gnome GnomeMeeting 0.93.1
>
> Worked OK against NetMeeting on WinME on the same LAN.
>
> > nor could get NetMeeting on Windows behind the Linux
> > NAT/firewall to work.
>
> Nor did I, but I haven't invested a lot of reading/testing this
> setup (therefore my questions about proxy, etc.)


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Re: Staying in Linux Lecture series announcement

2003-12-02 Thread Diego Iastrubni
Orr Dunkelman wrote:

Hello All,

As you might know (and in case you don't -- shame on you!), we have just
finished the "Welcome to Linux" lecture series. The series was aimed at
new Linux users, and helped them to start using Linux.
As the series ended the club will return to its normal bi-weekly lectures
on various topics (separate announcement will follow later). But those
lectures aim mostly at people who have been using for quite some time.
Those who don't fear the gcc, those who heard the name kernel, and
especially those who received at least once the email "So compile your
kernel" from muli.
As you can see the gap between a newcomer to Linux and a "regular" club
audience, Guy Keren suggested to hold "Staying in Linux" lecture series.
The lecture series will contain 3 lectures covering various topics that
interest even the more experienced Linux user, but still assumed as basic
enough to not be in a regular lecture. So the following lectures will take
place (on the following dates):
22/12/03: UNIX basics - users, permissions, processes, IO redirection,
etc.
5/1/04: Installing new drivers. loading and removing modules, compiling
kernel (a recipe).
19/1/04: Multimedia in Linux. Playing audio, video, DVDs, etc.

All lectures will take place at the regular meeting place for the Haifa
Linux Club - room 3 at the computer science dept., Technion.
Feel free to come, and you are more than encouraged to tell about the
"Staying in Linux" series to everyone you know.
 

May I ask a lecture about "talking to windows users"? Swaping files, 
information, cross compiling, whatever...



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Re: Hebrew and MDK 9.2

2003-12-02 Thread Diego Iastrubni
Oded Arbel wrote:

ביום שלישי 02 דצמבר 2003, 19:23, נכתב על ידי Amichai Rotman:
 

Hi All,

I Have downloaded the ISOs of MDK 9.2 shortly after it became available.

I installed the system and all seemed fine.

I have noticed the Hebrew support files are missing. For instance, the
Hebrew files for Open Office 1.1.0RC4, The KOffice Hebrew files 
   

OpenOffice and KOffice do not have (yet) a hebrew package. both do support 
hebrew writing and reading but not localization of menus and dialogs.
 

rubbish, koffice DOES have a localization. I have opened a bug report on 
mdk and it was closed several times without fixing for some reason. I 
will open one again this weekend. Get the ones from redhat, they work.

OpenOffice has a different i18n layout. You need a special binary, not 
"localization files". And besides... when 9.2 was out OO did not have 
any hebrew UI at all :)

 

and more.
   

For example ?
 

yes ... explain...

I had problems using the gnome spanish UI. And for some stupid and 
unkonwn reason the first time I installed GDM did not have hebrew UI and 
now it does (in both mdk9.2 installed from the same disk and I did a 
clean install choosing hebrew, and of course /etc/sysconfig/i18n had 
hebrew all over the place).



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Re: MSN messanger for linux and linux compatible webcam

2003-12-02 Thread Oron Peled
On Tuesday 02 December 2003 12:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Which version of gnomemeeting it that?

$ gnomemeeting --version
Gnome GnomeMeeting 0.93.1

Worked OK against NetMeeting on WinME on the same LAN.

> nor could get NetMeeting on Windows behind the Linux
> NAT/firewall to work.

Nor did I, but I haven't invested a lot of reading/testing this
setup (therefore my questions about proxy, etc.)

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Re: Hebrew and MDK 9.2

2003-12-02 Thread Oded Arbel
ביום שלישי 02 דצמבר 2003, 19:23, נכתב על ידי Amichai Rotman:
> Hi All,
>
> I Have downloaded the ISOs of MDK 9.2 shortly after it became available.
>
> I installed the system and all seemed fine.
>
> I have noticed the Hebrew support files are missing. For instance, the
> Hebrew files for Open Office 1.1.0RC4, The KOffice Hebrew files 

OpenOffice and KOffice do not have (yet) a hebrew package. both do support 
hebrew writing and reading but not localization of menus and dialogs.

> and more.

For example ?

-- 
Oded

::..
For future reference - don't anybody else try to send patches as vi scripts, 
please. Yes, it's manly, but let's face it, so is bungee-jumping with the 
cord tied to your testicles.
-- Linus Torvalds on LKML regarding patch submission policy

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Re: Open Source ERP system

2003-12-02 Thread Gabor Szabo

On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Ben-Nes Michael wrote:

> compiere: http://www.compiere.org/

thanks

>
> But you'll need a license from Mas-Hachnas if you would like to use it for
> invoices.

Do you know what does it take to get such license ?


Gabor

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Hebrew and MDK 9.2

2003-12-02 Thread Amichai Rotman
Hi All,

I Have downloaded the ISOs of MDK 9.2 shortly after it became available.

I installed the system and all seemed fine.

I have noticed the Hebrew support files are missing. For instance, the 
Hebrew files for Open Office 1.1.0RC4, The KOffice Hebrew files and 
more.

All Esperanto files are there...

Is it supposed to be like that, or is I got the short end of the stick 
by mistake?

If you could tell me where to find the Open Office Hebrew support files 
for MDK 9.2, I'll appreciate it.

Thanks,

Amichai.  


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Re: Redhat Linux with XFS support

2003-12-02 Thread ----- Erez Kirson -----
Hi

I have the ISO for 7.3 , if you want i can burn it for you .

and yes they are broken for some reason .

Erez

- Original Message - 
From: "Adir Abraham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 5:45 PM
Subject: Redhat Linux with XFS support


> Hi all,
> 
> Anybody knows where can I get the original ISO of SGI, regarding Redhat
> Linux with the XFS filesystem? The link from linuxiso.org doesn't work,
> and I don't seem to get any working link from Google. The ISO should be
> around 350MB, and its version is 1.3 for Redhat 9.0, or 1.3.1 for Redhat
> 9.1. For example, this:
> http://www.linuxiso.org/download.php/541/forRH-9.0-SGI-XFS-1.3.0-v1.iso
> is a broken link.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Adir.
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Re: mirror

2003-12-02 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 05:11:33PM +0200, Erez Doron wrote:
> Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:
> 
[snip]
> >
> >It's not clear what is a good and what is a bad solution for you,
> >but if you want there are scripts that convert filenames between
> >charsets. I have my own, there were a few others in linux-il (search
> >the archives), and there are even a bit more organized things in
> >freshmeat announcements lately.
> > 
> >
> it is relativly trivial to convert the filenames, but it will prevent 
> wget from updating only changes as it will find different names in the 
> source and dest of the mirror

That's clear to me. That's why I said it's not clear what's good for
you. Maybe you can think of making a tree of links with the good
names? I know fat doesn't have links, but maybe something like this.
ntfs, BTW, does have links. If you run wget from Windows that's an
option.
-- 
Didi

> 
> cheers,
> erez
> 

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Redhat Linux with XFS support

2003-12-02 Thread Adir Abraham
Hi all,

Anybody knows where can I get the original ISO of SGI, regarding Redhat
Linux with the XFS filesystem? The link from linuxiso.org doesn't work,
and I don't seem to get any working link from Google. The ISO should be
around 350MB, and its version is 1.3 for Redhat 9.0, or 1.3.1 for Redhat
9.1. For example, this:
http://www.linuxiso.org/download.php/541/forRH-9.0-SGI-XFS-1.3.0-v1.iso
is a broken link.

Thanks,

Adir.

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Re: mirror

2003-12-02 Thread Erez Doron
Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:

On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 01:18:19PM +0200, Erez Doron wrote:
 

hi

i am trying to do the following:

there is a samba server in the university. i have ftp access to it (no 
smb access)
the hebrew file names are of course wrong (as their samba does not have 
the hebrew patch)
i solved it by mirrorring the ftp site via wget, and then accessing it 
localy via samba.

the problems are:
1. wget conversts some of the filename chars to % ( i.e. 
%20 for space char)
2. i need a computer running samba for this.

i could have got arounds 1. by fixing the filenames using a script after 
doanload, but it wouldn't work when i try to update my copy of the mirror.
i could also hold symlinks with fixed names, but this is mor difficult 
as i have to update new symlinks when new files apear...

i really only want to have access to the correct hebrew names on my 
laptop, running windows ( i have also cygwin on it).
i prefer not to use a samba server ...

any idea ?
   

It's not clear what is a good and what is a bad solution for you,
but if you want there are scripts that convert filenames between
charsets. I have my own, there were a few others in linux-il (search
the archives), and there are even a bit more organized things in
freshmeat announcements lately.
 

it is relativly trivial to convert the filenames, but it will prevent 
wget from updating only changes as it will find different names in the 
source and dest of the mirror

cheers,
erez


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Re: mirror

2003-12-02 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 01:18:19PM +0200, Erez Doron wrote:
> hi
> 
> i am trying to do the following:
> 
> there is a samba server in the university. i have ftp access to it (no 
> smb access)
> the hebrew file names are of course wrong (as their samba does not have 
> the hebrew patch)
> i solved it by mirrorring the ftp site via wget, and then accessing it 
> localy via samba.
> 
> the problems are:
> 1. wget conversts some of the filename chars to % ( i.e. 
> %20 for space char)
> 2. i need a computer running samba for this.
> 
> i could have got arounds 1. by fixing the filenames using a script after 
> doanload, but it wouldn't work when i try to update my copy of the mirror.
> i could also hold symlinks with fixed names, but this is mor difficult 
> as i have to update new symlinks when new files apear...
> 
> 
> i really only want to have access to the correct hebrew names on my 
> laptop, running windows ( i have also cygwin on it).
> i prefer not to use a samba server ...
> 
> any idea ?

It's not clear what is a good and what is a bad solution for you,
but if you want there are scripts that convert filenames between
charsets. I have my own, there were a few others in linux-il (search
the archives), and there are even a bit more organized things in
freshmeat announcements lately.
-- 
Didi

> erez.
> 
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Re: Open Source ERP system

2003-12-02 Thread Ben-Nes Michael
compiere: http://www.compiere.org/

But you'll need a license from Mas-Hachnas if you would like to use it for
invoices.

I checked it once and it seems its suitable to the Israeli law including
payment, Shotef +30 and etc ...

One more important thing, you must use Oracle ! they plan to make it
Database Independence.
look:

http://www.compiere.org/technology/independence.html

If it works for you please let me know.

Cheers

--
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Internet Service Providers
Ben-Nes Michael - Manager
Tel: 972-4-6991122
Fax: 972-4-6990098
http://www.canaan.net.il
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Subject: Open Source ERP system


>
> One of my clients asked for a ERP solution. It has to be accessible from
> the other OS too (and I don't mean FreeBSD here) but in am optimal
> solution it will run on Linux.
>
> Any recommendation ?
>
> Gabor
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Re: Win XP cannot browse intranet web site on a Linux server

2003-12-02 Thread Boaz Rymland


Erez Doron wrote:

did you check all the trevial stuff (same subnet for both the XP and 
Linux ethernet interfaces) ?
the trivial stuff is configured ok, but i'll recheck... .

does ping work ?

the linux machine does not pass pings. pinging the XP box works ok.maybe 
i should change this to allow internal pings (previously there was no 
internal network - this is and old FW fule). no need to be that 
paranoid, i guess... :-)

can you give more details on how your netweork is connected
( what do you mean when you say the XP is masq'd ? by itself ? does it 
has two connections ? )
win XP and linux are on 192.168.2.x network. the windows has only one 
NIC and is being NAT'd by the linux to gain internet access, which it 
does successfully. the linux has a few network NICs, one is for that 
network.

any contrediction between the linux FW and the XP's NAT ?

cheers,
erez.
Boaz Rymland wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to set up a Win XP machine to view an intranet site on a 
Linux machine. This win XP machine is being masq'd o.k. and it has 
internet access fine, but somehow, it cannot talk to the local linux 
webserver (apache), or any other service on the Linux machine.
this is a strange thing. i've tried to debug with a etheral and 
indeed i've seen some suspecious SSDP packets flying around. i've 
managed, AFAIK, to disable this SSDP/UPnP on the Win XP machine but 
still things are no-go. the machine is a debian woody and the XP 
machine's IP (non routable IP network) is defined in /etc/hosts 
(reverse DNS issues). The linux machine is being firewalled, if it 
makes a difference.

anyone has a clue?

thnaks,
boaz.
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RE: disk problems

2003-12-02 Thread Arik Baratz

And don't use the computer (halt(8) it) until you do.

-- Arik


-Original Message-
From: Aaron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Moshe Kaminsky; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: disk problems


Hi I got the same errors,
I even backed up to cds but never checked if they were good.

when the hard drive finally died I lost over 5 months of work.

quick backup and get a new drive.
Aaron
On Mon, 2003-12-01 at 23:57, Shachar Tal wrote:
> Moshe Kaminsky wrote:
> 
> >Hi,
> >
> >I have some disk problems: when I try to access certain files, I hear 
> >strange sounds from the hard disk, the computer has a delay, and I get 
> >the following type of messages in /var/log/messages:
> >
> >Dec  1 23:05:36 localhost kernel: hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady 
> >SeekComplete Error }
> >Dec  1 23:05:36 localhost kernel: hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, 
> >LBAsect=34897754, sector=1048672
> >Dec  1 23:05:36 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:0a (hda), sector 
> >1048672
> >Dec  1 23:05:36 localhost kernel: EXT3-fs error (device ide0(3,10)): 
> >ext3_get_inode_loc: unable to read inode block - inode=59969, block=131084
> >
> >Anyone knows what is it, and how can it be fixed?
> >
> >  
> >
> This is a very strong indication of a bad sector (especially if the 
> problem persists). If you value your data, you better replace the drive. 
> Probably even if you don't.
> 
> >Thanks,
> >Moshe
> >
> >  
> >
> Shachar.
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[OT] GNU/Linux Stickers

2003-12-02 Thread Amichai Rotman
Hi Guys,

Any of you know where I could get GNU/Linux stickers?

I got a Laptop and I would like to share TUX with the rest...

Please contact me off-list, if you know.

Thanks,

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Re: MSN messanger for linux and linux compatible webcam

2003-12-02 Thread Gal Gur-Arie
This article in osnews.com is interesting:
http://osnews.com/story.php?news_id=5280
Shachar Shemesh wrote:

Hi gang,

Two questions, on the same thread.
1. Where can I find a linux compatible webcam? How much is one 
expected to cost?
2. Is there a Linux MSN messanger client that supports the new 
features? In particular, the voice and camera connection?

Many thanks,

   Shachar



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Re: Linux Server and Timezones ( cross topic )

2003-12-02 Thread linux-il
Stay out of the timezone mess altogether.

1. Keep times in UTC.
2. Let the manager's preferences have a "local time zone"
for himself, and when he enters a time you translate from his local
timezone to "gmt".
3. Maybe add a system configuration parameter to display the timezone
in which the times should be displayed.
That's basically the way UNIX handles this, and in a way that's
why it's probably the easiest aproach (functions to translate to
local time zones and back already exist in the standard C library).
BTW - the term "local NTP server" hints to me that you might not be
aware what that means - NTP servers give GMT time. They don't care
about local time zones. The only place where the "local time" raises
it's ugly head (or should be) are the functions which actually print
times (to logs or on the screen), everywere else you should be able to
take a large integer number anywere in the world and treat it as the
number of seconds since 12AM, Jan 1, 1970, GMT.
--Amos

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I'm building an E-commerce auction store for Hungarian company.

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My server is located in Israel and is tuned against local NTP server.

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Re: Open Source ERP system

2003-12-02 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham

compiere


On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Gabor Szabo wrote:

> 
> One of my clients asked for a ERP solution. It has to be accessible from
> the other OS too (and I don't mean FreeBSD here) but in am optimal
> solution it will run on Linux.
> 
> Any recommendation ?
> 
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Staying in Linux Lecture series announcement

2003-12-02 Thread Orr Dunkelman
Hello All,

As you might know (and in case you don't -- shame on you!), we have just
finished the "Welcome to Linux" lecture series. The series was aimed at
new Linux users, and helped them to start using Linux.

As the series ended the club will return to its normal bi-weekly lectures
on various topics (separate announcement will follow later). But those
lectures aim mostly at people who have been using for quite some time.
Those who don't fear the gcc, those who heard the name kernel, and
especially those who received at least once the email "So compile your
kernel" from muli.

As you can see the gap between a newcomer to Linux and a "regular" club
audience, Guy Keren suggested to hold "Staying in Linux" lecture series.

The lecture series will contain 3 lectures covering various topics that
interest even the more experienced Linux user, but still assumed as basic
enough to not be in a regular lecture. So the following lectures will take
place (on the following dates):

22/12/03: UNIX basics - users, permissions, processes, IO redirection,
etc.

5/1/04: Installing new drivers. loading and removing modules, compiling
kernel (a recipe).

19/1/04: Multimedia in Linux. Playing audio, video, DVDs, etc.

All lectures will take place at the regular meeting place for the Haifa
Linux Club - room 3 at the computer science dept., Technion.

Feel free to come, and you are more than encouraged to tell about the
"Staying in Linux" series to everyone you know.

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Open Source ERP system

2003-12-02 Thread Gabor Szabo

One of my clients asked for a ERP solution. It has to be accessible from
the other OS too (and I don't mean FreeBSD here) but in am optimal
solution it will run on Linux.

Any recommendation ?

Gabor

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Linux Server and Timezones ( cross topic )

2003-12-02 Thread Ben-Nes Michael
Hi All

I'm building an E-commerce auction store for Hungarian company.

When the manager add new sale He set the expiry date/time of the auction (
gmt +1 - hungarian ).

My server is located in Israel and is tuned against local NTP server.

How can I insure that my system will behave correctly considering the time
zone/saving light ?

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Free copy of Xandros Desktop 2.0

2003-12-02 Thread Aaron
Hi if anyone out there is interested in obtaining a free licenced copy
of Xandros Desktop 2.0 in exchange for translating the interface files
to Hebrew, please let me know.

Xandros is commited to providing full Hebrew support including technical
support and customer service.

Thanks
Aaron


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Re: Win XP cannot browse intranet web site on a Linux server

2003-12-02 Thread Erez Doron
did you check all the trevial stuff (same subnet for both the XP and 
Linux ethernet interfaces) ?
does ping work ?

can you give more details on how your netweork is connected
( what do you mean when you say the XP is masq'd ? by itself ? does it 
has two connections ? )

any contrediction between the linux FW and the XP's NAT ?

cheers,
erez.
Boaz Rymland wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to set up a Win XP machine to view an intranet site on a 
Linux machine. This win XP machine is being masq'd o.k. and it has 
internet access fine, but somehow, it cannot talk to the local linux 
webserver (apache), or any other service on the Linux machine.
this is a strange thing. i've tried to debug with a etheral and indeed 
i've seen some suspecious SSDP packets flying around. i've managed, 
AFAIK, to disable this SSDP/UPnP on the Win XP machine but still 
things are no-go. the machine is a debian woody and the XP machine's 
IP (non routable IP network) is defined in /etc/hosts (reverse DNS 
issues). The linux machine is being firewalled, if it makes a difference.

anyone has a clue?

thnaks,
boaz.
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mirror

2003-12-02 Thread Erez Doron
hi

i am trying to do the following:

there is a samba server in the university. i have ftp access to it (no 
smb access)
the hebrew file names are of course wrong (as their samba does not have 
the hebrew patch)
i solved it by mirrorring the ftp site via wget, and then accessing it 
localy via samba.

the problems are:
1. wget conversts some of the filename chars to % ( i.e. 
%20 for space char)
2. i need a computer running samba for this.

i could have got arounds 1. by fixing the filenames using a script after 
doanload, but it wouldn't work when i try to update my copy of the mirror.
i could also hold symlinks with fixed names, but this is mor difficult 
as i have to update new symlinks when new files apear...

i really only want to have access to the correct hebrew names on my 
laptop, running windows ( i have also cygwin on it).
i prefer not to use a samba server ...

any idea ?
erez.
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Re: MSN messanger for linux and linux compatible webcam

2003-12-02 Thread linux-il
Shachar Shemesh wrote:
On the other hand, when I use MSN messenger on Windows, I get 
bidirectional video (but problematic Audio, though that may be due to a 
different reason).
You mean that you manage to connect a Windows machine through NAT on
your Linux and get NetMeeting video working?  I'd love to see that.
As of last time I tried, I could only make Yahoo Massenger to pass
through my iptables firewall.
Is there some special NAT handler for H323?
I think there is work in progress on that.  There is also supopsed to
be some H323 gateway for Linux, but I never managed to get it working.
Isn't the video passed over H323 or something similar too?

--Amos

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Re: MSN messanger for linux and linux compatible webcam

2003-12-02 Thread linux-il
Which version of gnomemeeting it that?

Back over a year ago I couldn't get it to work with a NetMeeting
on the other side, nor could get NetMeeting on Windows behind the Linux
NAT/firewall to work.
Cheers,

--Amos

Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
From: Oron Peled <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Linux-IL mailing list 
Sent: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 00:52:54 +0200
Subject: Re: MSN messanger for linux and linux compatible webcam

On Monday 01 December 2003 22:52, Shachar Shemesh wrote:

1. Where can I find a linux compatible webcam? How much is one expected 
to cost?
Logitech Quickcam Express (The USB model). The driver I use is at:
  http://www.ee.oulu.fi/~tuukkat/quickcam/qc-usb-0.5.1.tar.gz
(Used on version 8.0 of the "name-forbidden-to-use-distro" :-)


Logitech QuickCam 3000 or 4000 - these are the best, open source module is 
built in on any distributions (thats the "pwc" kernel module), good 
microphone built in..
 

2. Is there a Linux MSN messanger client that supports the new features? 
In particular, the voice and camera connection?


The upcoming Kopete 0.8 will, but thats far in the roadmap ;)
 

Not that I know of. Talk all your Windows friends to use NetMeeting which
interoperates with GnomeMeeting. You can hint them that NetMeeting
(just like GnomeMeeting) has more control than MSN on the picure size
and position (e.g: your image as a separate window -- I think they added
that only in the latest MSN release).


6.1 still doesn't have it yet.
 

On the same thread. Anybody used NetMeeting and/or GnomeMeeting
over NAT? I'm trying to avoid running some proxy on the firewall/NAT
machine itself. Last time I tested (very short test), it negotiated the
session with the other side (I could see the address/name of the
NetMeeting partner, and they could see my address), but no video
data was passed. Any hint from someone who actually use this
would be helpfull.


Well, I used GnomeMeeting few days ago. They have a simple script to let you 
forward some ports (NetMeeting uses tons of ports), and you'll need to 
register to their ILS server in order to connect from inside your firewall to 
the outside world, or vice versa. Works pretty well (although no text chat, 
no file up/downloading support, and no white board - too bad, all those 
features are fully open protocols)..

Works pretty nice..

Hetz

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Re: hebrew fedora apt

2003-12-02 Thread Aaron
In fact much of the rpms exist already, freebidi for example, although I
haven't checked versions.



Aaron


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Re: hebrew fedora apt

2003-12-02 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003, Aaron wrote about "hebrew fedora apt":
> Hi all,
> I was wondering what I would need to make a hebrew fedora apt-get
> repository.]
> 
> My idea is to include everything that is needed to get a system up and
> running with hebrew, and then rpm them and create an apt repository.
> 
> what apps, scripts, tweaks etc. should be included.
> I would like it to include enough so that it will be useful.

Please check out http://ivrix.org.il/redhat

Dan Kenigsberg currently releases versions of the relevant RPMs for
Redhat 9 and Redhat 8, but I'm sure that the same or similar RPMs could be
compiled on Fedora without much difficulties (Dan also has source RPMs on
that site).


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