RedHat equivalent of make-kpkg?
Is there any red-hat equivalent for Debian's make-kpkg? For those who don't know what it is - make-kpkg allows one to take a vanilla kernel source and build .deb files for the kernel image, modules etc. It just looks a bit wierd to me that such an important part of the system like the kernel image should just be cp(1)'ed over to /vmlinux and linked manually, without making the RPM database aware of the change and helping me keep track of the installed kernels on the system. Thanks, --Amos = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian.org Hacked
The Debian Projecthttp://www.debian.org/ Debian Investigation Report [EMAIL PROTECTED] December 2nd, 2003 Debian Investigation Report after Server Compromises The Debian administration team and security experts are finally able to pinpoint the method used to break-in into four project machines. However, the person who did this has not yet been uncovered. The package archives were not altered by the intruder. The Debian administration and security teams have checked these archives (security, us, non-us) quite early on in the investigation and re-installation process. That's why the project was able to open up the security archive again and confirm that the stable update (3.0r2) wasn't compromised. If the project had anticipated to get compromised at the same time the stable update was implemented, the involved people would have postponed it. However, the updated packages were already installed in the stable archive and mirror servers at the time the break-ins were discovered, so it wasn't possible to hold it back anymore. Several methods based on different control data were used to verify the packages and to ensure that the archives weren't altered by the attacker: . externally stored lists of MD5 sums accumulated over the past weeks on not compromised machines . digitally signed .changes files from external debian-devel-changes archives on not compromised machines . digitally signed .changes files on the respective archive servers . externally stored mirror log files Timeline Below is the timeline of discovery and recovery of the compromised machines. All times are in UTC. Some times are only estimates since our conversation did not contain exact timestamps. Sep 28 01:33 Linus Torvalds releases 2.6.0-test6 with do_brk() fix Oct 02 05:18 Marcello Tosatti applies do_brk() boundary check Nov 19 17:00 Attacker logs into klecker with sniffed password Nov 19 17:08 Root-kit installed on klecker Nov 19 17:20 Attacker logs into master with same sniffed password Nov 19 17:47 Root-kit installed on master Nov 19 18:30 Attacker logs into murphy with service account from master Nov 19 18:35 Root-kit installed on murphy Nov 19 19:25 Oopses on murphy start Nov 20 05:38 Oopses on master start Nov 20 20:00 Discovery of Oopses on master and murphy Nov 20 20:54 Root-kit installed on gluck Nov 20 22:00 Confirmation that debian.org was compromised Nov 21 00:00 Deactivation of all accounts Nov 21 00:34 Shut down security.debian.org Nov 21 04:00 Shut down gluck (www, cvs, people, ddtp) Nov 21 08:30 Point www.debian.org to www.de.debian.org Nov 21 10:45 Public announcement Nov 21 16:47 Developer information updated Nov 21 17:10 Shut down murphy (lists) Nov 22 02:41 security.debian.org is back online Nov 25 07:40 lists.debian.org is back online Nov 28 22:39 Linux 2.4.23 released Discovery On the evening (GMT) of Thursday, November 20th, the admin team noticed several kernel oopses on master. Since that system was running without problems for a long time, the system was about to be taken into maintenance for deeper investigation of potential hardware problems. However, at the same time, a second machine, murphy, was experiencing exactly the same problems, which made the admins suspicious. Also, klecker, murphy and gluck have "Advanced Intrusion Detection Environment" (package aide) installed to monitor filesystem changes and at around the same time it started warning that /sbin/init had been replaced and that the mtime and ctime values for /usr/lib/locale/en_US had changed. Further investigation revealed the cause for both these problems to be the SucKIT root-kit. It includes password sniffing and detection evasion capabilities (i.e. tools to hide processes and files) which are installed directly into the kernel, which in turn caused the oopses that were noticed. Detailed Attack Analysis On Wednesday, November 19th, at approximately 5pm GMT, a sniffed password was used to log into an unprivileged developer account on the host klecker (.debian.org). The attacker then retrieved the source code through HTTP for an (at that time) unknown local kernel exploit and gained root permissions via this exploit. Afterwards, the SucKIT root-kit was installed. The same account and password data were then used to log into the machine master, to gain root permissions with the same exploit and also to install the SucKIT root-kit. The attacker then tried to get access to the host murphy with the same account. This failed because murphy is a restricted machine and its only purpose is to act as list server to which only a small subset of developers can log into. Since the initial login attempt didn't work the person used his root access on m
Re: Debian.org Hacked
the CNet article summarizing it: http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-5112427.html?tag=nefd_top Shaul Karl wrote: For those who missed it, the Debian machines were hacked because of a combination of a sniffed password and a local root exploit. The hole is believed to be only locally exploitable, not remotely. More details on this exploit are at http://isec.pl/vulnerabilities/isec-0012-do_brk.txt Among other things, it says that: Impact: === Successful exploitation of do_brk() leads to full compromise of vulnerable system, including gaining full uid 0 privileges, possibility of kernel code and data structures modification as well as kernel-level (ring0) code execution. Tested and successfully exploited kernel versions include: o 2.4.20-18.9 as shipped with RedHat 9.0 o 2.4.22 (vanila) o 2.4.22 with grsecurity patch There is no known reliable workaround for this vulnerability. We recommend upgrading to the most recent kernel version (so far the 2.4.23 kernel) on all vulnerable systems. As an aside, I wonder how many people here are using Linux to grant other people full shell account? How many full shell users do they have? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian.org Hacked
For those who missed it, the Debian machines were hacked because of a combination of a sniffed password and a local root exploit. The hole is believed to be only locally exploitable, not remotely. More details on this exploit are at http://isec.pl/vulnerabilities/isec-0012-do_brk.txt Among other things, it says that: Impact: === Successful exploitation of do_brk() leads to full compromise of vulnerable system, including gaining full uid 0 privileges, possibility of kernel code and data structures modification as well as kernel-level (ring0) code execution. Tested and successfully exploited kernel versions include: o 2.4.20-18.9 as shipped with RedHat 9.0 o 2.4.22 (vanila) o 2.4.22 with grsecurity patch There is no known reliable workaround for this vulnerability. We recommend upgrading to the most recent kernel version (so far the 2.4.23 kernel) on all vulnerable systems. As an aside, I wonder how many people here are using Linux to grant other people full shell account? How many full shell users do they have? -- "If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas." -- George Bernard Shaw (sent by shaulk @ actcom . net . il) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MSN messanger for linux and linux compatible webcam
You should use either UPNP daemon on the Linux NAT, or try to play with OpenH323 server on the NAT. Ez. On Tuesday 02 December 2003 19:52, Oron Peled wrote: > On Tuesday 02 December 2003 12:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Which version of gnomemeeting it that? > > $ gnomemeeting --version > Gnome GnomeMeeting 0.93.1 > > Worked OK against NetMeeting on WinME on the same LAN. > > > nor could get NetMeeting on Windows behind the Linux > > NAT/firewall to work. > > Nor did I, but I haven't invested a lot of reading/testing this > setup (therefore my questions about proxy, etc.) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Staying in Linux Lecture series announcement
Orr Dunkelman wrote: Hello All, As you might know (and in case you don't -- shame on you!), we have just finished the "Welcome to Linux" lecture series. The series was aimed at new Linux users, and helped them to start using Linux. As the series ended the club will return to its normal bi-weekly lectures on various topics (separate announcement will follow later). But those lectures aim mostly at people who have been using for quite some time. Those who don't fear the gcc, those who heard the name kernel, and especially those who received at least once the email "So compile your kernel" from muli. As you can see the gap between a newcomer to Linux and a "regular" club audience, Guy Keren suggested to hold "Staying in Linux" lecture series. The lecture series will contain 3 lectures covering various topics that interest even the more experienced Linux user, but still assumed as basic enough to not be in a regular lecture. So the following lectures will take place (on the following dates): 22/12/03: UNIX basics - users, permissions, processes, IO redirection, etc. 5/1/04: Installing new drivers. loading and removing modules, compiling kernel (a recipe). 19/1/04: Multimedia in Linux. Playing audio, video, DVDs, etc. All lectures will take place at the regular meeting place for the Haifa Linux Club - room 3 at the computer science dept., Technion. Feel free to come, and you are more than encouraged to tell about the "Staying in Linux" series to everyone you know. May I ask a lecture about "talking to windows users"? Swaping files, information, cross compiling, whatever... = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hebrew and MDK 9.2
Oded Arbel wrote: ביום שלישי 02 דצמבר 2003, 19:23, נכתב על ידי Amichai Rotman: Hi All, I Have downloaded the ISOs of MDK 9.2 shortly after it became available. I installed the system and all seemed fine. I have noticed the Hebrew support files are missing. For instance, the Hebrew files for Open Office 1.1.0RC4, The KOffice Hebrew files OpenOffice and KOffice do not have (yet) a hebrew package. both do support hebrew writing and reading but not localization of menus and dialogs. rubbish, koffice DOES have a localization. I have opened a bug report on mdk and it was closed several times without fixing for some reason. I will open one again this weekend. Get the ones from redhat, they work. OpenOffice has a different i18n layout. You need a special binary, not "localization files". And besides... when 9.2 was out OO did not have any hebrew UI at all :) and more. For example ? yes ... explain... I had problems using the gnome spanish UI. And for some stupid and unkonwn reason the first time I installed GDM did not have hebrew UI and now it does (in both mdk9.2 installed from the same disk and I did a clean install choosing hebrew, and of course /etc/sysconfig/i18n had hebrew all over the place). = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MSN messanger for linux and linux compatible webcam
On Tuesday 02 December 2003 12:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Which version of gnomemeeting it that? $ gnomemeeting --version Gnome GnomeMeeting 0.93.1 Worked OK against NetMeeting on WinME on the same LAN. > nor could get NetMeeting on Windows behind the Linux > NAT/firewall to work. Nor did I, but I haven't invested a lot of reading/testing this setup (therefore my questions about proxy, etc.) -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron Q: "What do you do if your Linux box goes down?" A: "Sit around in the dark until the power comes back on" = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hebrew and MDK 9.2
ביום שלישי 02 דצמבר 2003, 19:23, נכתב על ידי Amichai Rotman: > Hi All, > > I Have downloaded the ISOs of MDK 9.2 shortly after it became available. > > I installed the system and all seemed fine. > > I have noticed the Hebrew support files are missing. For instance, the > Hebrew files for Open Office 1.1.0RC4, The KOffice Hebrew files OpenOffice and KOffice do not have (yet) a hebrew package. both do support hebrew writing and reading but not localization of menus and dialogs. > and more. For example ? -- Oded ::.. For future reference - don't anybody else try to send patches as vi scripts, please. Yes, it's manly, but let's face it, so is bungee-jumping with the cord tied to your testicles. -- Linus Torvalds on LKML regarding patch submission policy To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Open Source ERP system
On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Ben-Nes Michael wrote: > compiere: http://www.compiere.org/ thanks > > But you'll need a license from Mas-Hachnas if you would like to use it for > invoices. Do you know what does it take to get such license ? Gabor = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hebrew and MDK 9.2
Hi All, I Have downloaded the ISOs of MDK 9.2 shortly after it became available. I installed the system and all seemed fine. I have noticed the Hebrew support files are missing. For instance, the Hebrew files for Open Office 1.1.0RC4, The KOffice Hebrew files and more. All Esperanto files are there... Is it supposed to be like that, or is I got the short end of the stick by mistake? If you could tell me where to find the Open Office Hebrew support files for MDK 9.2, I'll appreciate it. Thanks, Amichai. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Redhat Linux with XFS support
Hi I have the ISO for 7.3 , if you want i can burn it for you . and yes they are broken for some reason . Erez - Original Message - From: "Adir Abraham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 5:45 PM Subject: Redhat Linux with XFS support > Hi all, > > Anybody knows where can I get the original ISO of SGI, regarding Redhat > Linux with the XFS filesystem? The link from linuxiso.org doesn't work, > and I don't seem to get any working link from Google. The ISO should be > around 350MB, and its version is 1.3 for Redhat 9.0, or 1.3.1 for Redhat > 9.1. For example, this: > http://www.linuxiso.org/download.php/541/forRH-9.0-SGI-XFS-1.3.0-v1.iso > is a broken link. > > Thanks, > > Adir. > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mirror
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 05:11:33PM +0200, Erez Doron wrote: > Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: > [snip] > > > >It's not clear what is a good and what is a bad solution for you, > >but if you want there are scripts that convert filenames between > >charsets. I have my own, there were a few others in linux-il (search > >the archives), and there are even a bit more organized things in > >freshmeat announcements lately. > > > > > it is relativly trivial to convert the filenames, but it will prevent > wget from updating only changes as it will find different names in the > source and dest of the mirror That's clear to me. That's why I said it's not clear what's good for you. Maybe you can think of making a tree of links with the good names? I know fat doesn't have links, but maybe something like this. ntfs, BTW, does have links. If you run wget from Windows that's an option. -- Didi > > cheers, > erez > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Redhat Linux with XFS support
Hi all, Anybody knows where can I get the original ISO of SGI, regarding Redhat Linux with the XFS filesystem? The link from linuxiso.org doesn't work, and I don't seem to get any working link from Google. The ISO should be around 350MB, and its version is 1.3 for Redhat 9.0, or 1.3.1 for Redhat 9.1. For example, this: http://www.linuxiso.org/download.php/541/forRH-9.0-SGI-XFS-1.3.0-v1.iso is a broken link. Thanks, Adir. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mirror
Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 01:18:19PM +0200, Erez Doron wrote: hi i am trying to do the following: there is a samba server in the university. i have ftp access to it (no smb access) the hebrew file names are of course wrong (as their samba does not have the hebrew patch) i solved it by mirrorring the ftp site via wget, and then accessing it localy via samba. the problems are: 1. wget conversts some of the filename chars to % ( i.e. %20 for space char) 2. i need a computer running samba for this. i could have got arounds 1. by fixing the filenames using a script after doanload, but it wouldn't work when i try to update my copy of the mirror. i could also hold symlinks with fixed names, but this is mor difficult as i have to update new symlinks when new files apear... i really only want to have access to the correct hebrew names on my laptop, running windows ( i have also cygwin on it). i prefer not to use a samba server ... any idea ? It's not clear what is a good and what is a bad solution for you, but if you want there are scripts that convert filenames between charsets. I have my own, there were a few others in linux-il (search the archives), and there are even a bit more organized things in freshmeat announcements lately. it is relativly trivial to convert the filenames, but it will prevent wget from updating only changes as it will find different names in the source and dest of the mirror cheers, erez = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mirror
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 01:18:19PM +0200, Erez Doron wrote: > hi > > i am trying to do the following: > > there is a samba server in the university. i have ftp access to it (no > smb access) > the hebrew file names are of course wrong (as their samba does not have > the hebrew patch) > i solved it by mirrorring the ftp site via wget, and then accessing it > localy via samba. > > the problems are: > 1. wget conversts some of the filename chars to % ( i.e. > %20 for space char) > 2. i need a computer running samba for this. > > i could have got arounds 1. by fixing the filenames using a script after > doanload, but it wouldn't work when i try to update my copy of the mirror. > i could also hold symlinks with fixed names, but this is mor difficult > as i have to update new symlinks when new files apear... > > > i really only want to have access to the correct hebrew names on my > laptop, running windows ( i have also cygwin on it). > i prefer not to use a samba server ... > > any idea ? It's not clear what is a good and what is a bad solution for you, but if you want there are scripts that convert filenames between charsets. I have my own, there were a few others in linux-il (search the archives), and there are even a bit more organized things in freshmeat announcements lately. -- Didi > erez. > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Open Source ERP system
compiere: http://www.compiere.org/ But you'll need a license from Mas-Hachnas if you would like to use it for invoices. I checked it once and it seems its suitable to the Israeli law including payment, Shotef +30 and etc ... One more important thing, you must use Oracle ! they plan to make it Database Independence. look: http://www.compiere.org/technology/independence.html If it works for you please let me know. Cheers -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-4-6991122 Fax: 972-4-6990098 http://www.canaan.net.il -- - Original Message - From: "Gabor Szabo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 3:23 PM Subject: Open Source ERP system > > One of my clients asked for a ERP solution. It has to be accessible from > the other OS too (and I don't mean FreeBSD here) but in am optimal > solution it will run on Linux. > > Any recommendation ? > > Gabor > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Win XP cannot browse intranet web site on a Linux server
Erez Doron wrote: did you check all the trevial stuff (same subnet for both the XP and Linux ethernet interfaces) ? the trivial stuff is configured ok, but i'll recheck... . does ping work ? the linux machine does not pass pings. pinging the XP box works ok.maybe i should change this to allow internal pings (previously there was no internal network - this is and old FW fule). no need to be that paranoid, i guess... :-) can you give more details on how your netweork is connected ( what do you mean when you say the XP is masq'd ? by itself ? does it has two connections ? ) win XP and linux are on 192.168.2.x network. the windows has only one NIC and is being NAT'd by the linux to gain internet access, which it does successfully. the linux has a few network NICs, one is for that network. any contrediction between the linux FW and the XP's NAT ? cheers, erez. Boaz Rymland wrote: Hi, I'm trying to set up a Win XP machine to view an intranet site on a Linux machine. This win XP machine is being masq'd o.k. and it has internet access fine, but somehow, it cannot talk to the local linux webserver (apache), or any other service on the Linux machine. this is a strange thing. i've tried to debug with a etheral and indeed i've seen some suspecious SSDP packets flying around. i've managed, AFAIK, to disable this SSDP/UPnP on the Win XP machine but still things are no-go. the machine is a debian woody and the XP machine's IP (non routable IP network) is defined in /etc/hosts (reverse DNS issues). The linux machine is being firewalled, if it makes a difference. anyone has a clue? thnaks, boaz. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: disk problems
And don't use the computer (halt(8) it) until you do.
-- Arik
-Original Message-
From: Aaron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Moshe Kaminsky; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: disk problems
Hi I got the same errors,
I even backed up to cds but never checked if they were good.
when the hard drive finally died I lost over 5 months of work.
quick backup and get a new drive.
Aaron
On Mon, 2003-12-01 at 23:57, Shachar Tal wrote:
> Moshe Kaminsky wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >I have some disk problems: when I try to access certain files, I hear
> >strange sounds from the hard disk, the computer has a delay, and I get
> >the following type of messages in /var/log/messages:
> >
> >Dec 1 23:05:36 localhost kernel: hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady
> >SeekComplete Error }
> >Dec 1 23:05:36 localhost kernel: hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError },
> >LBAsect=34897754, sector=1048672
> >Dec 1 23:05:36 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:0a (hda), sector
> >1048672
> >Dec 1 23:05:36 localhost kernel: EXT3-fs error (device ide0(3,10)):
> >ext3_get_inode_loc: unable to read inode block - inode=59969, block=131084
> >
> >Anyone knows what is it, and how can it be fixed?
> >
> >
> >
> This is a very strong indication of a bad sector (especially if the
> problem persists). If you value your data, you better replace the drive.
> Probably even if you don't.
>
> >Thanks,
> >Moshe
> >
> >
> >
> Shachar.
>
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[OT] GNU/Linux Stickers
Hi Guys, Any of you know where I could get GNU/Linux stickers? I got a Laptop and I would like to share TUX with the rest... Please contact me off-list, if you know. Thanks, Amichai. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MSN messanger for linux and linux compatible webcam
This article in osnews.com is interesting: http://osnews.com/story.php?news_id=5280 Shachar Shemesh wrote: Hi gang, Two questions, on the same thread. 1. Where can I find a linux compatible webcam? How much is one expected to cost? 2. Is there a Linux MSN messanger client that supports the new features? In particular, the voice and camera connection? Many thanks, Shachar = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux Server and Timezones ( cross topic )
Stay out of the timezone mess altogether. 1. Keep times in UTC. 2. Let the manager's preferences have a "local time zone" for himself, and when he enters a time you translate from his local timezone to "gmt". 3. Maybe add a system configuration parameter to display the timezone in which the times should be displayed. That's basically the way UNIX handles this, and in a way that's why it's probably the easiest aproach (functions to translate to local time zones and back already exist in the standard C library). BTW - the term "local NTP server" hints to me that you might not be aware what that means - NTP servers give GMT time. They don't care about local time zones. The only place where the "local time" raises it's ugly head (or should be) are the functions which actually print times (to logs or on the screen), everywere else you should be able to take a large integer number anywere in the world and treat it as the number of seconds since 12AM, Jan 1, 1970, GMT. --Amos Ben-Nes Michael wrote: Hi All I'm building an E-commerce auction store for Hungarian company. When the manager add new sale He set the expiry date/time of the auction ( gmt +1 - hungarian ). My server is located in Israel and is tuned against local NTP server. How can I insure that my system will behave correctly considering the time zone/saving light ? -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-4-6991122 Fax: 972-4-6990098 http://www.canaan.net.il -- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Your email is protected by Mailshell -- To block spam or change delivery options: http://www.mailshell.com/control.html?a=blshp8b9gc0rxhgk_srox_llfpptvypmvy7j FreshAddress.com http://rd.mailshell.com/ad482 Earn up to $3 for each of your friends who signs up with Mailshell! http://rd.mailshell.com/sp5 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Open Source ERP system
compiere
On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Gabor Szabo wrote:
>
> One of my clients asked for a ERP solution. It has to be accessible from
> the other OS too (and I don't mean FreeBSD here) but in am optimal
> solution it will run on Linux.
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Staying in Linux Lecture series announcement
Hello All, As you might know (and in case you don't -- shame on you!), we have just finished the "Welcome to Linux" lecture series. The series was aimed at new Linux users, and helped them to start using Linux. As the series ended the club will return to its normal bi-weekly lectures on various topics (separate announcement will follow later). But those lectures aim mostly at people who have been using for quite some time. Those who don't fear the gcc, those who heard the name kernel, and especially those who received at least once the email "So compile your kernel" from muli. As you can see the gap between a newcomer to Linux and a "regular" club audience, Guy Keren suggested to hold "Staying in Linux" lecture series. The lecture series will contain 3 lectures covering various topics that interest even the more experienced Linux user, but still assumed as basic enough to not be in a regular lecture. So the following lectures will take place (on the following dates): 22/12/03: UNIX basics - users, permissions, processes, IO redirection, etc. 5/1/04: Installing new drivers. loading and removing modules, compiling kernel (a recipe). 19/1/04: Multimedia in Linux. Playing audio, video, DVDs, etc. All lectures will take place at the regular meeting place for the Haifa Linux Club - room 3 at the computer science dept., Technion. Feel free to come, and you are more than encouraged to tell about the "Staying in Linux" series to everyone you know. -- Orr Dunkelman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Any human thing supposed to be complete, must for that reason infallibly be faulty" -- Herman Melville, Moby Dick. Spammers: http://vipe.technion.ac.il/~orrd/spam.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Open Source ERP system
One of my clients asked for a ERP solution. It has to be accessible from the other OS too (and I don't mean FreeBSD here) but in am optimal solution it will run on Linux. Any recommendation ? Gabor = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux Server and Timezones ( cross topic )
Hi All I'm building an E-commerce auction store for Hungarian company. When the manager add new sale He set the expiry date/time of the auction ( gmt +1 - hungarian ). My server is located in Israel and is tuned against local NTP server. How can I insure that my system will behave correctly considering the time zone/saving light ? -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-4-6991122 Fax: 972-4-6990098 http://www.canaan.net.il -- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Free copy of Xandros Desktop 2.0
Hi if anyone out there is interested in obtaining a free licenced copy of Xandros Desktop 2.0 in exchange for translating the interface files to Hebrew, please let me know. Xandros is commited to providing full Hebrew support including technical support and customer service. Thanks Aaron = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Win XP cannot browse intranet web site on a Linux server
did you check all the trevial stuff (same subnet for both the XP and Linux ethernet interfaces) ? does ping work ? can you give more details on how your netweork is connected ( what do you mean when you say the XP is masq'd ? by itself ? does it has two connections ? ) any contrediction between the linux FW and the XP's NAT ? cheers, erez. Boaz Rymland wrote: Hi, I'm trying to set up a Win XP machine to view an intranet site on a Linux machine. This win XP machine is being masq'd o.k. and it has internet access fine, but somehow, it cannot talk to the local linux webserver (apache), or any other service on the Linux machine. this is a strange thing. i've tried to debug with a etheral and indeed i've seen some suspecious SSDP packets flying around. i've managed, AFAIK, to disable this SSDP/UPnP on the Win XP machine but still things are no-go. the machine is a debian woody and the XP machine's IP (non routable IP network) is defined in /etc/hosts (reverse DNS issues). The linux machine is being firewalled, if it makes a difference. anyone has a clue? thnaks, boaz. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mirror
hi i am trying to do the following: there is a samba server in the university. i have ftp access to it (no smb access) the hebrew file names are of course wrong (as their samba does not have the hebrew patch) i solved it by mirrorring the ftp site via wget, and then accessing it localy via samba. the problems are: 1. wget conversts some of the filename chars to % ( i.e. %20 for space char) 2. i need a computer running samba for this. i could have got arounds 1. by fixing the filenames using a script after doanload, but it wouldn't work when i try to update my copy of the mirror. i could also hold symlinks with fixed names, but this is mor difficult as i have to update new symlinks when new files apear... i really only want to have access to the correct hebrew names on my laptop, running windows ( i have also cygwin on it). i prefer not to use a samba server ... any idea ? erez. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MSN messanger for linux and linux compatible webcam
Shachar Shemesh wrote: On the other hand, when I use MSN messenger on Windows, I get bidirectional video (but problematic Audio, though that may be due to a different reason). You mean that you manage to connect a Windows machine through NAT on your Linux and get NetMeeting video working? I'd love to see that. As of last time I tried, I could only make Yahoo Massenger to pass through my iptables firewall. Is there some special NAT handler for H323? I think there is work in progress on that. There is also supopsed to be some H323 gateway for Linux, but I never managed to get it working. Isn't the video passed over H323 or something similar too? --Amos = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MSN messanger for linux and linux compatible webcam
Which version of gnomemeeting it that? Back over a year ago I couldn't get it to work with a NetMeeting on the other side, nor could get NetMeeting on Windows behind the Linux NAT/firewall to work. Cheers, --Amos Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: From: Oron Peled <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Shachar Shemesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Linux-IL mailing list Sent: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 00:52:54 +0200 Subject: Re: MSN messanger for linux and linux compatible webcam On Monday 01 December 2003 22:52, Shachar Shemesh wrote: 1. Where can I find a linux compatible webcam? How much is one expected to cost? Logitech Quickcam Express (The USB model). The driver I use is at: http://www.ee.oulu.fi/~tuukkat/quickcam/qc-usb-0.5.1.tar.gz (Used on version 8.0 of the "name-forbidden-to-use-distro" :-) Logitech QuickCam 3000 or 4000 - these are the best, open source module is built in on any distributions (thats the "pwc" kernel module), good microphone built in.. 2. Is there a Linux MSN messanger client that supports the new features? In particular, the voice and camera connection? The upcoming Kopete 0.8 will, but thats far in the roadmap ;) Not that I know of. Talk all your Windows friends to use NetMeeting which interoperates with GnomeMeeting. You can hint them that NetMeeting (just like GnomeMeeting) has more control than MSN on the picure size and position (e.g: your image as a separate window -- I think they added that only in the latest MSN release). 6.1 still doesn't have it yet. On the same thread. Anybody used NetMeeting and/or GnomeMeeting over NAT? I'm trying to avoid running some proxy on the firewall/NAT machine itself. Last time I tested (very short test), it negotiated the session with the other side (I could see the address/name of the NetMeeting partner, and they could see my address), but no video data was passed. Any hint from someone who actually use this would be helpfull. Well, I used GnomeMeeting few days ago. They have a simple script to let you forward some ports (NetMeeting uses tons of ports), and you'll need to register to their ILS server in order to connect from inside your firewall to the outside world, or vice versa. Works pretty well (although no text chat, no file up/downloading support, and no white board - too bad, all those features are fully open protocols).. Works pretty nice.. Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Your email is protected by Mailshell -- To block spam or change delivery options: http://www.mailshell.com/control.html?a=blshp8b9gc0rxhgk_srox_llfpptvypmvy7j ReturnPath.net http://rd.mailshell.com/ad481 Earn up to $3 for each of your friends who signs up with Mailshell! http://rd.mailshell.com/sp5 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hebrew fedora apt
In fact much of the rpms exist already, freebidi for example, although I haven't checked versions. Aaron = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hebrew fedora apt
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003, Aaron wrote about "hebrew fedora apt": > Hi all, > I was wondering what I would need to make a hebrew fedora apt-get > repository.] > > My idea is to include everything that is needed to get a system up and > running with hebrew, and then rpm them and create an apt repository. > > what apps, scripts, tweaks etc. should be included. > I would like it to include enough so that it will be useful. Please check out http://ivrix.org.il/redhat Dan Kenigsberg currently releases versions of the relevant RPMs for Redhat 9 and Redhat 8, but I'm sure that the same or similar RPMs could be compiled on Fedora without much difficulties (Dan also has source RPMs on that site). -- Nadav Har'El| Tuesday, Dec 2 2003, 7 Kislev 5764 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-790466, ICQ 13349191 |Why do programmers mix up Christmas and http://nadav.harel.org.il |Halloween? Because DEC 25 = OCT 31 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
