Re: Leumit not working in Firefox

2007-03-13 Thread Zvi Har'El
Clalit is not better. They used to work with Firefox, but recently their
menus stopped functioning. Here is their answer to my complaint (note
their suggestion to install explorer only to surf at the Clalit site):


 
 

שלום רב, 

כדי לבחון אפשרות של מתן פתרונות לכלל הלקוחות, נושא התמיכה בדפדפנים שונים
באתר הכללית נמצא כל הזמן על סדר היום בשירותי בריאות כללית.

אכן, בשלב זה, אתר הכללית תומך רק בדפדפנים מסוג אינטרנט אקספלורר של
מיקרוסופט מגרסה 5.5 ומעלה.

מבדיקות תקופתיות שאנו עורכים על הרגלי הגלישה בישראל עולה כי כ-98% מכלל
הגולשים בישראל משתמשים בדפדפן מסוג אינטרנט אקספלורר (הנתונים על הרגלי
הגלישה בעולם, אגב, מראים כי 93.7% מהגולשים משתמשים בדפדפן זה).

כיוון ששירותי בריאות כללית הנה מלכ"ר (מוסד ללא כוונת רווח), ופועלת
במסגרת מצומצמת מאוד של תקציבים, הוחלט בשלב זה שלא להקצות משאבים יקרים
לפיתוח ולתמיכה בדפדפנים נוספים, בעיקר בגלל הכמות הקטנה יחסית של גולשים
שמשתמשים בהם (גם במספרים אבסולוטיים).

בנוסף לאמור לעיל, הכללית אינה חוסכת במאמצים כדי למצוא פתרונות אמיתיים
ללקוחות אשר מכל סיבה שהיא אינם משתמשים בדפדפן אקספלורר. כפועל יוצא של
מאמצים אלה, ולאחר בדיקה ובחינה מקיפים, הכללית החלה לפתח את אתריה
בטכנולוגיית .NET טכנולוגיה זו אמורה לתת את הפתרון המתבקש ע"י כך שמה
שהגולש מקבל בסופו של דבר הוא  HTML טהור היכול להיקרא ע"י כל סוגי הדפדפנים.

כמשתמש/ת בדפדפן מסוג Mozilla / FireFox, אנו תקווה שהפתרונות שאנו מיישמים
אכן יאפשרו לך ליהנות משירותי האינטרנט שאנו מציעים. אגב, פתרון שרבים
מלקוחותינו שאינם משתמשים באקספלורר באופן קבוע אימצו, הוא התקנת האקספלורר
והשימוש בו אך ורק למטרת הגלישה באתר הכללית.

 

בכבוד רב, פייסל

*צוות תמיכה כללית און ליין *

*טלפון**: **2700*** **שלוחה **3 **אחרי בחירת השפה*

*דואר אלקטרוני: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

נשמח לעזור 24 שעות ביממה החל מיום שבת 20:00 עד יום שישי 13:00

 

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*From:* Zvi Har'El [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Saturday, March 03, 2007 11:10 AM
*To:* כללית און ליין
*Subject:* System stopped wotking with firefox

Your system stopped working with Firefox. After loggin in, the menu
which allows me to go, e.g., to תוצאות בדיקות מעבדה, stopped
functionning. It was fine until recently. Can you please fix it?

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Dotan Cohen wrote, On 12/03/07 14:28:

> Please call Leumit (1-700-705-705) and complain that they are idiots,
> er no, that Leumit.co.il does not work in Firefox.
>
> Specifically, the login page for blood checks is all M$-specific
> Javascript and it is impossible to use with Firefox, Opera, Konqueror,
> etc. They require 500 NIS of software (MS operating system) to use
> their website. The excuse they gave me was that this is to comply with
> Misrad Habriut requirements of security.
>
> The only other way to get the blood results is to call to request a
> fax. They send a Ishur Vitur Sodiut, which we must fax back, and then
> they send the results. Which is a pain for those who HAVE fax machines
> at home. What about those without?
>
> Thanks, group.
>
> Dotan Cohen
>
> http://lyricslist.com/
> http://what-is-what.com/
>
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Re: System stopped wotking with firefox

2007-03-13 Thread Zvi Har'El
שלום פייסל,


חקרתי את הבעיה. אם בדף השער שלכם


https://e-services.clalit.org.il/login/main.aspx


מחליפים את הקריאות ל- openURL בהצבה פשוטה, למשל


תוצאות בדיקות מעבדה


במקום


תוצאות בדיקות מעבדה


התפריטים עובדים ב Firefox לגמרי בסדר. אינני חושב שזאת השקעה גדולה מידי,
במיוחד שעד לפני כמה שבועות היה הכל תקין. אני משתמש במחשב בו מותקנת מערכת
ההפעלה Linux, ואין ביכולתי לקנות מחשב נוסף רק לצורך גלישה באתר הכללית.


תודה, צבי


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, On 11/03/07 11:03:

>  
>  
>
> שלום רב, 
>
> כדי לבחון אפשרות של מתן פתרונות לכלל הלקוחות, נושא התמיכה בדפדפנים
> שונים באתר הכללית נמצא כל הזמן על סדר היום בשירותי בריאות כללית.
>
> אכן, בשלב זה, אתר הכללית תומך רק בדפדפנים מסוג אינטרנט אקספלורר של
> מיקרוסופט מגרסה 5.5 ומעלה.
>
> מבדיקות תקופתיות שאנו עורכים על הרגלי הגלישה בישראל עולה כי כ-98% מכלל
> הגולשים בישראל משתמשים בדפדפן מסוג אינטרנט אקספלורר (הנתונים על הרגלי
> הגלישה בעולם, אגב, מראים כי 93.7% מהגולשים משתמשים בדפדפן זה).
>
> כיוון ששירותי בריאות כללית הנה מלכ"ר (מוסד ללא כוונת רווח), ופועלת
> במסגרת מצומצמת מאוד של תקציבים, הוחלט בשלב זה שלא להקצות משאבים יקרים
> לפיתוח ולתמיכה בדפדפנים נוספים, בעיקר בגלל הכמות הקטנה יחסית של גולשים
> שמשתמשים בהם (גם במספרים אבסולוטיים).
>
> בנוסף לאמור לעיל, הכללית אינה חוסכת במאמצים כדי למצוא פתרונות אמיתיים
> ללקוחות אשר מכל סיבה שהיא אינם משתמשים בדפדפן אקספלורר. כפועל יוצא של
> מאמצים אלה, ולאחר בדיקה ובחינה מקיפים, הכללית החלה לפתח את אתריה
> בטכנולוגיית .NET טכנולוגיה זו אמורה לתת את הפתרון המתבקש ע"י כך שמה
> שהגולש מקבל בסופו של דבר הוא  HTML טהור היכול להיקרא ע"י כל סוגי הדפדפנים.
>
> כמשתמש/ת בדפדפן מסוג Mozilla / FireFox, אנו תקווה שהפתרונות שאנו
> מיישמים אכן יאפשרו לך ליהנות משירותי האינטרנט שאנו מציעים. אגב, פתרון
> שרבים מלקוחותינו שאינם משתמשים באקספלורר באופן קבוע אימצו, הוא התקנת
> האקספלורר והשימוש בו אך ורק למטרת הגלישה באתר הכללית.
>
>  
>
> בכבוד רב, פייסל
>
> *צוות תמיכה כללית און ליין *
>
> *טלפון**: **2700*** **שלוחה **3 **אחרי בחירת השפה*
>
> *דואר אלקטרוני: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> נשמח לעזור 24 שעות ביממה החל מיום שבת 20:00 עד יום שישי 13:00
>
>  
>
> 
> *From:* Zvi Har'El [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 03, 2007 11:10 AM
> *To:* כללית און ליין
> *Subject:* System stopped wotking with firefox
>
> Your system stopped working with Firefox. After loggin in, the menu
> which allows me to go, e.g., to תוצאות בדיקות מעבדה, stopped
> functionning. It was fine until recently. Can you please fix it?
>
> -- 
> Dr. Zvi Har'El  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Department of Mathematics
> tel:+972-54-4227607 icq:179294841Technion - Israel Institute of Technology
> fax:+972-4-8293388  http://www.math.technion.ac.il/~rl/Haifa 32000, ISRAEL
> "If you can't say somethin' nice, don't say nothin' at all." -- Thumper (1942)
>   

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tel:+972-54-4227607 icq:179294841Technion - Israel Institute of Technology
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"If you can't say somethin' nice, don't say nothin' at all." -- Thumper (1942)



Re: entering hebrew?

2007-02-15 Thread Zvi Har'El
PS. If you need a Jewish calendar for Mozilla Sunbird or Lightning, you
can download one from my homepage (see signature), or more specifically,
import <http://www.math.technion.ac.il/~rl/luach/5767-i.he.ics>. BTW,
you can import it also using Google  Calendar (you might be familiar
with it since I see you are a gmail user).

Zvi Har'El wrote, On 15/02/07 14:12:

>
>
> Dan Bar Dov wrote, On 15/02/07 12:51:
>
>>
>> My next one is about calendar/appointment book. Thundirbird does not
>> have it AFAIK.
>>
>
> It does. Look at the Mozilla Calendar products in the URL below. You
> have the choice of a Thunderbird add-on called Lightning, or if you
> prefer a standalone calendar, Mozilla Sunbird is your choice. I
> recommend both from experience. Personally I prefer the latter.
>  
> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/
>
> -- 
> Dr. Zvi Har'El  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Department of Mathematics
> tel:+972-54-4227607 icq:179294841Technion - Israel Institute of Technology
> fax:+972-4-8293388  http://www.math.technion.ac.il/~rl/Haifa 32000, ISRAEL
> "If you can't say somethin' nice, don't say nothin' at all." -- Thumper (1942)
>   

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Re: entering hebrew?

2007-02-15 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El


Dan Bar Dov wrote, On 15/02/07 12:51:

>
> My next one is about calendar/appointment book. Thundirbird does not
> have it AFAIK.
>

It does. Look at the Mozilla Calendar products in the URL below. You
have the choice of a Thunderbird add-on called Lightning, or if you
prefer a standalone calendar, Mozilla Sunbird is your choice. I
recommend both from experience. Personally I prefer the latter.
 
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/

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Re: Firefox and Isracard

2007-02-14 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El
I use the extension "User Agent Switcher"
(http://chrispederick.com/work/useragentswitcher/) to access their site :'(

Gabor Szabo wrote, On 14/02/07 16:14:

> I have just tried to access http://www.isracard.co.il using Firefox.
> I managed to register but once logged in nothing useful comes out of it.
>
> I wrote to the support from where I got prompt answer that currently
> they don't support
> Firefox. I also asked when are they going to support it but recived no
> answer.
>
> Has anyone managed to use their site with Firefox?
>
> Gabor
>

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Re: Double quotation marks in Unicode Hebrew

2007-02-06 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El
Thanks. I fixed my pages.

On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 13:54:20 +0200, Oded Arbel wrote about "Re: Double 
quotation marks in Unicode Hebrew":
> On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 23:57 +0200, Zvi Har'El wrote:
> > Shalom BIDI gurus!
> > 
> > 
> > To distinguish, in Hebrew Unicode text,  between quotation marks (מרכאות) 
> > and
> > gershayim (גרשיים), I have been using for the opening quotation marks the
> > unicode DOUBLE LOW-9 QUOTATION MARK U+201E (Windows-1255 0x84) and closing
> > quotation marks the unicode LEFT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK U+201C (Windows-1255:
> > 0x93). For geshayim I used of course the unicode HEBREW PUNCTUATION 
> > GERSHAYIM
> > U+05F4 (Windows-1255 0xD8).
> 
> I see that for English quoting your are using 0x201c and 0x201d, which
> looks OK - why aren't you using the same style of quoting for both
> Hebrew and English ? I think it looks weird with English being quoted
> normally and Hebrew with low-high quoting.
> 
> > This arrangement looks best for me, although most modern books use (I think
> > because of sheer laziness) the same glyph for all three (gershayim). 
> > However,
> > I just noticed that Firefox 2.0.0.1 mirrors the LEFT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK 
> > and
> > displays instead the RIGHT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK U+201D (Windows-1255: 
> > 0x94).
> > Firefox 1.5.0.9, Opera 9.10, and MSIE (sic) 6.0 All do not do it. Is this 
> > the
> > correct behaviour  under the UNICODE BIDI algorithm?
> 
> I don't recall off-hand, and I suggest you pickup Unicode TR#9 and check
> for yourself, but I think - without checking - that the Firefox 2+
> (Gecko 1.8.1 and above) implementation is correct, as using 0x201c
> +0x201d (as I've mentioned above) for Hebrew quoting, when displayed in
> RTL context without mirroring (as in Gecko 1.8.0) looks wrong, but when
> displayed in LTR (as on my terminal for example), it looks correct -
> like native LTR text. With Gecko 1.8.1 and above it looks correct for
> both Hebrew and English text in both RTL and LTR context.
> 
> Now lets do a little experiment - replace 0x201c (opening quote) with
> opening parenthesis, and replace 0x201d (closing quote) with closing
> parenthesis, and try to render it again in Gecko 1.8.0 - you'll see that
> the its now rendered properly - the parenthesis were correctly mirrored.
> Note that opening parenthesis, is left parenthesis for English, but as
> it does not start a new embedding level, when displayed in an RTL
> context it must be displayed as a right parenthesis - same thing with
> quotes. As far as I can tell, this is a renderer bug where the older
> renderers that you mentioned above do mirror correctly some mirrored
> characters properly, but not the 0x201c/d double quotes. Gecko 1.8.1
> fixes the bug.
> 
> >  Should I replace all my
> > U+201C with U+201D so that they will look OK after mirroring?
> 
> That's a hard one. As a purist I would tend to say "yes - do make sure
> you write your text typographically correct and in a way that it can be
> utilized by standard compliant software", but then you'd have issues
> with current broken viewers in which your text would be displayed with
> obvious errors. One possible solution would be revert to the least
> effort approach and quote using "grashaim", which wouldn't look as nice
> but would work correctly in all renditions.
> 
> BTW - have you tested MSIE 7.0 ? If its rendering engine has this issue
> fixed, and we know that Opera can be pestered to fix their engine, then
> you can use the double quoting you want and be assured that within the
> next year, most people would be able to view your web site properly.
> 
> --
> Oded
> ::..
> "Reality is a crutch for those who can't cope with science fiction"
> 

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Re: Double quotation marks in Unicode Hebrew

2007-02-06 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El
Thanks. I fixed my pages.

On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 12:13:21 +0200, Matitiahu Allouche wrote about "Re: Double 
quotation marks in Unicode Hebrew":
> According to the Unicode standard (see 
> http://unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/BidiMirroring.txt ), the 2 characters at 
> 201C and 201D are mirroring mates, meaning that within a right-to-left 
> context, 201C should be displayed as Right Double Quotation Mark and 201D 
> should be displayed as Left Double Quotation Mark.
> 
> It seems that Firefox 2.0.0.1 is doing the right thing.
> 
> Shalom (Regards),  Mati
>Bidi Architect
>Globalization Center Of Competency - Bidirectional Scripts
>IBM Israel
>Phone: +972 2 502Fax: +972 2 5870333    Mobile: +972 52 
> 2554160
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Zvi Har'El" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 01/02/2007 23:57
> 
> To
> Israeli Linux Hackers List 
> cc
> 
> Subject
> Double quotation marks in Unicode Hebrew
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Shalom BIDI gurus!
> 
> 
> To distinguish, in Hebrew Unicode text,  between quotation marks (מרכאות) 
> and
> gershayim (גרשיים), I have been using for the opening quotation marks the
> unicode DOUBLE LOW-9 QUOTATION MARK U+201E (Windows-1255 0x84) and closing
> quotation marks the unicode LEFT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK U+201C 
> (Windows-1255:
> 0x93). For geshayim I used of course the unicode HEBREW PUNCTUATION 
> GERSHAYIM
> U+05F4 (Windows-1255 0xD8). 
> 
> This arrangement looks best for me, although most modern books use (I 
> think
> because of sheer laziness) the same glyph for all three (gershayim). 
> However,
> I just noticed that Firefox 2.0.0.1 mirrors the LEFT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK 
> and
> displays instead the RIGHT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK U+201D (Windows-1255: 
> 0x94).
> Firefox 1.5.0.9, Opera 9.10, and MSIE (sic) 6.0 All do not do it. Is this 
> the
> correct behaviour  under the UNICODE BIDI algorithm? Should I replace all 
> my
> U+201C with U+201D so that they will look OK after mirroring? You can view 
> my
> Web pages at http://JV.Gilead.org.il/hebrew/ and
> http://JV.Gilead.org.il/FAQ/index.he.html for examples of usage of these
> punctuation marks.
> 
> Kol tuv,
> 
> Zvi.
> 
> -- 
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> Mathematics
> tel:+972-54-4227607 icq:179294841Technion - Israel Institute of 
> Technology
> fax:+972-4-8293388  http://www.math.technion.ac.il/~rl/Haifa 32000, 
> ISRAEL
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> (1942)
>Thursday, 14 Shevat 5767,  1 February 2007, 
> 11:08PM
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Double quotation marks in Unicode Hebrew

2007-02-01 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El
Shalom BIDI gurus!


To distinguish, in Hebrew Unicode text,  between quotation marks (מרכאות) and
gershayim (גרשיים), I have been using for the opening quotation marks the
unicode DOUBLE LOW-9 QUOTATION MARK U+201E (Windows-1255 0x84) and closing
quotation marks the unicode LEFT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK U+201C (Windows-1255:
0x93). For geshayim I used of course the unicode HEBREW PUNCTUATION GERSHAYIM
U+05F4 (Windows-1255 0xD8). 

This arrangement looks best for me, although most modern books use (I think
because of sheer laziness) the same glyph for all three (gershayim). However,
I just noticed that Firefox 2.0.0.1 mirrors the LEFT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK and
displays instead the RIGHT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK U+201D (Windows-1255: 0x94).
Firefox 1.5.0.9, Opera 9.10, and MSIE (sic) 6.0 All do not do it. Is this the
correct behaviour  under the UNICODE BIDI algorithm? Should I replace all my
U+201C with U+201D so that they will look OK after mirroring? You can view my
Web pages at http://JV.Gilead.org.il/hebrew/ and
http://JV.Gilead.org.il/FAQ/index.he.html for examples of usage of these
punctuation marks.

Kol tuv,

Zvi.

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Re: FireFox and Bank haPoalim

2006-12-22 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El
These are good news. But the fix is not complete. If you go to "Meida
Meatar Isracard", the right hand menu is still reversed. So, I continue
to use Effie's extension... :'(

Ilya Konstantinov wrote, On 21/12/06 20:25:

> Looks like the bank has finally fixed the reversed menus on Firefox.
> The Javascript code that previously caused the bug is no longer there
> and has the comment "//  new" above it. The sources also refer to
> Firefox in various points, so it looks like they're no longer
> oblivious to Firefox (though they still won't openly cooperate with
> the development team).
>
> On 12/10/06, Michael Sternberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I still did not heard the asnwer to question why its so hard for Bank
>> haPoalim to fix their site for so long time. Or why Linux fans/Israel
>> Open
>> Source community/haMakor did not asked them to do so. BTW, there is no
>> problem with reversed hebrew while using Internet Explorer :)
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Re: FireFox and Bank haPoalim

2006-12-08 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El
I install extensions, but check what they do... Of course, with popular
extensions you can rely on the fact that somebody else checked them, but
when it goes to your bank account, you cannot be too careful.

Amos Shapira wrote, On 08/12/06 11:12:

> On 08/12/06, *Zvi Har'El* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
> fancy extension to a ZIP archive) before installing it (from the
> local file, of course).  I would do it even if the file were
> signed, and even if it came by a stork directly from mozdev :-) .
>
>
> So is this what you do for every extension you install from Mozilla's
> "addons" extension catalog?
> Or do you avoid installing any Firefox extension?
>
> --Amos

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Re: FireFox and Bank haPoalim

2006-12-07 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El
Once you installed it, it really doesn't matter if somebody later breaks
to Effie's site (to Effie it would matter :'( ). If you haven't
installed it yet - you can download it, and examine the file contets (an
XPI file is just a fancy extension to a ZIP archive) before installing
it (from the local file, of course).  I would do it even if the file
were signed, and even if it came by a stork directly from mozdev :-) .


Amos Shapira wrote, On 07/12/06 23:28:

> On 08/12/06, *Oded Arbel* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 18:38 +0200, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:
> > While I agree this is risky, I must correct your assumption that the
> > fact this extension claims to deal with a banking site makes it more
> > or less likely to be spyware. 
>
>
> I think the main issue is that it's unsigned - it means that a cracker
> who breaks into Effie's web site and installs a modified version won't
> be caught by the extension singing mechanism.
> I might be naive, but I pretty much trust Effie himself not to do any
> monkey business with his own extensions.
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Re: Mutt+Hebrew

2005-06-01 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El
I use mutt in a utf-8 environment and mlterm with bidi enabled. This is the
ultimate solution to read multilingual mail. Also, you can use vim as your
editor without the need to flip the screen.

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> On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 12:14:31PM -0400, Gideon Alon wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Would anyone know how to get Mutt working with Hebrew fonts?
> 
> Not much you need to do in mutt itself. Most of the configuration is in
> the system and the terminal.
> 
> Still, from my muttrc:
> 
>   iconv-hook iso-8859-8-i window-1255
>   set display_filter=bidiv
> 
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Re: [OT] ssh java client

2004-03-13 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El
Dear Diego,

At the Technion, we use "mindterm" and we find it very good. See
http://www.appgate.com/products/5_MindTerm/

Best,

Zvi.
On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 03:13:23 +0200, Diego Iastrubni wrote about "[OT] ssh java client":
> Hi 
> 
> I remember once, that someone here posted a name of a ssh-client java 
> application. I 
> 
> am looking for one that can be used as an applet in an web site (much easier 
> then installing putty on every windows box I visit, dont you think?)
> 
> Thanks, and sorry for being OT.
> 
> -- 
> 
> diego,
> 
> Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
> See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> 
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Re: Apache .htaccess Hides Folders

2004-01-20 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El
I think I now understand the problem. From my experience this is a pecularity
of Apache 2. Apache 1 behaviur was different. Before an object is listed by
mod_auto_index, apache tries to access it. You can, for example do the
following test: In an autoindexed directory, create a directory, with a+rx
perms. No .htaccess. You'll see it listed. Now, create inside it an unreadble
index.html. Bang! It disappears! This behaviour is new to apache 2, I don't
like it, but this is debatable.

On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:50:47 +0200, Chaim Keren Tzion wrote about "Re: Apache 
.htaccess Hides Folders":
> The access permisions are/were as you suggested. The directory was visible and
> accessible before I added the .htaccess file to it. Now it is visible and
> accessible only if I give the password. I just want to be able to see the
> directories from .. (one flight up), just to know of it's existance so I can
> click on it and be asked for the user/passwd instead of having to remember that
> it is also there and have to type the directory's name in manually.
> 
> I think that this is not a rights problem and certainly not a .htaccess problem
> per say but an apache problem with both mod_auth and mod_auth_digest (I've tried
> both). I am just looking for a workaround at this point.
> 
> Has anyone out there had this work for them? ie. A passworded directory that
> shows up in Auto-Indexed; Apache served directory listings (before loging into
> the directory)?
> 
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> 
> 
> Quoting Zvi Har'El <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > Shalom Chaim,
> > 
> > Your problem is simply setting unix access permissions (I assum you run a
> > unix
> > server, linux included, otherwise you wouldn't have written to this list
> > ;-)).
> > What you need is just to make the directory searchable, not readable, by the
> > apache user (normally nobody or apache in redhat), so just run
> > 
> > chmod o=x directory_name
> > 
> > If you really need a .htaccess file, you have to make it universally
> > readbable, i.e.,
> > 
> > chmod o+r directory_name/.htaccess
> > 
> > BTW, read the apache error file, error_log: It should tell you about the
> > permissions problem.
> > 
> > Kol tuv
> > 
> > Zvi.
> > 
> > On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 23:16:05 +0200, Chaim Keren Tzion wrote about "Apache
> > .htaccess Hides Folders":
> > > Using Apache2 with: Options +Indexes
> > > 
> > > When I limit access to a subdirectory by putting a .htaccess file inside of
> > it
> > > the subdirectory disappears from the parent's directory tree. If I manualy
> > type
> > > in the name I get the expected authentication prompt. Is there a way to
> > allow all
> > > users to see the subdirectory in the tree but limit access to the
> > subdirectory's
> > > contents?
> > > 
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Re: Apache .htaccess Hides Folders

2004-01-19 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El
Shalom Chaim,

Your problem is simply setting unix access permissions (I assum you run a unix
server, linux included, otherwise you wouldn't have written to this list ;-)).
What you need is just to make the directory searchable, not readable, by the
apache user (normally nobody or apache in redhat), so just run

chmod o=x directory_name

If you really need a .htaccess file, you have to make it universally
readbable, i.e.,

chmod o+r directory_name/.htaccess

BTW, read the apache error file, error_log: It should tell you about the
permissions problem.

Kol tuv

Zvi.

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 23:16:05 +0200, Chaim Keren Tzion wrote about "Apache .htaccess 
Hides Folders":
> Using Apache2 with: Options +Indexes
> 
> When I limit access to a subdirectory by putting a .htaccess file inside of it
> the subdirectory disappears from the parent's directory tree. If I manualy type
> in the name I get the expected authentication prompt. Is there a way to allow all
> users to see the subdirectory in the tree but limit access to the subdirectory's
> contents?
> 
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Re: Mozilla Printing

2003-12-19 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El
I don't use the RPM, but rather the tar.gz. The main reason I prefer to open a
tar in /usr/local rather than installing a dozen of rpms. About user.js, I
suggest you read http://www.mozilla.org/unix/customizing.html#prefs and
http://www.geocities.com/pratiksolanki/ . I learned there a lot.

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:05:53 +0200, Dan Kenigsberg wrote about "Re: Mozilla Printing":
> I failed to use Xprint from mozilla 1.5b which I download as an rpm from
> mozilla.org.
> 
> Xprint seems all right, but mozilla does not seem to attempt to connect to it at
> all.
> 
> $ xplsprinters 
> AUDIT: Thu Dec 18 16:53:59 2003: 4454 Xprt: client 1 connected from local host
> AUDIT: Thu Dec 18 16:53:59 2003: 4454 Xprt: client 1 disconnected
> printer: aaa@:33
> printer: bbb@:33
> printer: spooldir_tmp_Xprintjobs@:33
> $ mozilla
> 
> 
> How can I tell if my mozilla binary includes Xprint support? How should I
> enable it if it is?
> 
> P.S. what is user.js? Why is recomended? Anyway, I've got print.print_method=1
> as shown in about:config.
> 
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 07:46:17PM +0200, Zvi Har'El wrote:
> > I am using RedHat 9.0, with mozilla 1.5 I downloaded as a tar file
> > (mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-1.5.tar.gz). This mozilla doesn't support Xprint by
> > default, and this is also what you miss. Do do it, I had to add the line
> > 
> > user_pref("print.print_method", 1);
> > 
> > in mozilla preferences file (you can do it prefs.js, but it is recommended to
> > do it in user.js - I also have the definions to enable trutype fonts), and
> > 
> 
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Re: Mozilla Printing

2003-12-17 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El
I am using RedHat 9.0, with mozilla 1.5 I downloaded as a tar file
(mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-1.5.tar.gz). This mozilla doesn't support Xprint by
default, and this is also what you miss. Do do it, I had to add the line

user_pref("print.print_method", 1);

in mozilla preferences file (you can do it prefs.js, but it is recommended to
do it in user.js - I also have the definions to enable trutype fonts), and
also to download the Xprint rpm 

http://xprint.sourceforge.net/download/xprint-2003-04-16-release_008-0.8.i386.rpm

to install it and to start the Xprint server which it installs (using
chkconfig and service commands).

It really prints very nicely;  I would remark that the Xprint server is really
an X server that prints from data clients put on the X display :33.
Interesting.

On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 00:33:24 +0200, Pinchas Rosenfeld wrote about "Mozilla Printing":
> Sorry for mailing this mail in HTML!
> 
> When I am running Mozilla 1.3.1 or 1.4.0 on my Mandrake-9.2 or RH 
> 9-Enterprise WS Partitions,
> I can print Hebrew pages on any one of my CUPS configured printers,
> selected from the Mozilla printer selection window:
> 
> LocalHP930C@:33   [HP930C connected to parallel port 0]
> SMB-Printer@:33   [HP930C connected to a win95 PC via samba]
> Tp0@:33   [Hp9330C local, configured with TurboPrint-free]
> 
> When I run, mozilla 1.4.0 or 1.4.1 on Fedora-core1 or
> Knoppix 3.3 with added Debian applications partitions,
> all I can see in the mozilla printer selection window, is: 
> "PostScript/default" ,
> and the printers output only English.
> 
> This happens when the printers configuration is the same as on mandrake 9.2.
> 
> Konqueror, anyway, is printing Hebrew on all partitions, with any of the 
> 3 printers.
> 
> After reading may papers and mozilla configuration files,
> I can not find the reason for this behavior.
> 
> Please help!
> 
> Pinchas
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Re: Redhat 9 slowness - continued

2003-11-09 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El
More in info gcc:

   Thread-local storage (TLS) is a mechanism by which variables are
allocated such that there is one instance of the variable per extant
thread.  The run-time model GCC uses to implement this originates in
the IA-64 processor-specific ABI, but has since been migrated to other
processors as well.  It requires significant support from the linker
(`ld'), dynamic linker (`ld.so'), and system libraries (`libc.so' and
`libpthread.so'), so it is not available everywhere.

etc.

On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 08:42:27 +0200, Zvi Har'El wrote about "Re: Redhat 9 slowness - 
continued":
> DOn't trust them. tls is "thread local storage". If you look at info libc
> (better source for information about libc than your inner soul ;-) and search
> for tls, you'll find 
> 
> 
> `--without-tls'
>  By default the C library is built with support for thread-local
>  storage if the used tools support it.  By using `--without-tls'
>  this can be prevented though there generally is no reason since it
>  creates compatibility problems.
> 
> I admit this is not much information, but it is a correct one!
> 
> On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 00:55:35 +0200, Oleg Kobets wrote about "Re: Redhat 9 slowness - 
> continued":
> > Hmm, I always trust my inner instincts, and right now, they tell me that
> > "tls" has something to do with encryption. Perhaps they made an encrypted
> > version of C lib to prevent trojans and stuff and that added to the time
> > programs run ?
> > 
> > Makes sence to me.
> > 
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Nadav Har'El" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 10:19 PM
> > Subject: Redhat 9 slowness - continued
> > 
> > 
> > > A few days ago, somebody complained about KDE being slower on Redhat 9
> > > than it was in earlier versions. I don't know if my experience is related,
> > > but it confirms something bizarre is going on in Redhat 9.
> > >
> > > I just switched from a Pentium 500Mhz running Redhat 8, to a Pentium 1500
> > > running Redhat 9.
> > >
> > > Remember how Hspell 0.5 took ages to run, and Hspell 0.6 is much much
> > faster
> > > to start up? Well, being in love with that fact ( ;)) I wanted to see just
> > > how quickly it runs on my new fast machine. On my old machine, it took it
> > > 0.3 seconds to start up (hspell /dev/null). I expected it to take 0.1
> > seconds
> > > (CPU time) to start on the new computer, but... It still took 0.3 seconds!
> > >
> > > I started cursing the fake CPU I probably have on the new machine, and
> > > the bugs I probably have in Hspell, before I had an epiphany: what if
> > > some dynamic-linking issues slowed hspell's running, and it wasn't hspell
> > > itself which is slow?
> > >
> > > So I recomiled hspell staticly (-static, i.e., without shared libraries)
> > > on both machines. Lo and behold, Hspell now takes just 0.23 seconds on
> > > the old machine, and 0.095 seconds on the new machine.
> > >
> > > So, apparently, on Redhat 8 the dynamic linking added 21% to
> > > "hspell /dev/null"'s static running time, while on Redhat 9, the
> > > dynamic linking added 200% (!!!) to the running time of the static
> > > program. In absolute terms, 0.2 extra CPU seconds were wasted on
> > > Redhat 9, and this is on my new fast machine - on an old machine the
> > > added time would have been enormous.
> > >
> > > But why is this happening? And why does it effect hspell, and not, say
> > > "cat /dev/null"?
> > >
> > > One thing I noticed is that when I do "ldd" to hspell (or cat, or
> > anything),
> > > I don't get /lib/i686/... like I got in Redhat 8 - instead I get some
> > > /lib/tls/ What is that? setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /lib/i686 made
> > > hspell very speedy again - 0.12 seconds - back to the acceptable 20%
> > > overhead for dynamic linking.
> > >
> > > Does anybody know what these "tls" version of the C library are? Why
> > > are they so much slower to load? Or is there another explanation to the
> > > problems I'm seeing?
> > >
> > > Thanks for any insights,
> > > Nadav.
> > >
> > >
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Re: Redhat 9 slowness - continued

2003-11-08 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El
DOn't trust them. tls is "thread local storage". If you look at info libc
(better source for information about libc than your inner soul ;-) and search
for tls, you'll find 


`--without-tls'
 By default the C library is built with support for thread-local
 storage if the used tools support it.  By using `--without-tls'
 this can be prevented though there generally is no reason since it
 creates compatibility problems.

I admit this is not much information, but it is a correct one!

On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 00:55:35 +0200, Oleg Kobets wrote about "Re: Redhat 9 slowness - 
continued":
> Hmm, I always trust my inner instincts, and right now, they tell me that
> "tls" has something to do with encryption. Perhaps they made an encrypted
> version of C lib to prevent trojans and stuff and that added to the time
> programs run ?
> 
> Makes sence to me.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Nadav Har'El" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 10:19 PM
> Subject: Redhat 9 slowness - continued
> 
> 
> > A few days ago, somebody complained about KDE being slower on Redhat 9
> > than it was in earlier versions. I don't know if my experience is related,
> > but it confirms something bizarre is going on in Redhat 9.
> >
> > I just switched from a Pentium 500Mhz running Redhat 8, to a Pentium 1500
> > running Redhat 9.
> >
> > Remember how Hspell 0.5 took ages to run, and Hspell 0.6 is much much
> faster
> > to start up? Well, being in love with that fact ( ;)) I wanted to see just
> > how quickly it runs on my new fast machine. On my old machine, it took it
> > 0.3 seconds to start up (hspell /dev/null). I expected it to take 0.1
> seconds
> > (CPU time) to start on the new computer, but... It still took 0.3 seconds!
> >
> > I started cursing the fake CPU I probably have on the new machine, and
> > the bugs I probably have in Hspell, before I had an epiphany: what if
> > some dynamic-linking issues slowed hspell's running, and it wasn't hspell
> > itself which is slow?
> >
> > So I recomiled hspell staticly (-static, i.e., without shared libraries)
> > on both machines. Lo and behold, Hspell now takes just 0.23 seconds on
> > the old machine, and 0.095 seconds on the new machine.
> >
> > So, apparently, on Redhat 8 the dynamic linking added 21% to
> > "hspell /dev/null"'s static running time, while on Redhat 9, the
> > dynamic linking added 200% (!!!) to the running time of the static
> > program. In absolute terms, 0.2 extra CPU seconds were wasted on
> > Redhat 9, and this is on my new fast machine - on an old machine the
> > added time would have been enormous.
> >
> > But why is this happening? And why does it effect hspell, and not, say
> > "cat /dev/null"?
> >
> > One thing I noticed is that when I do "ldd" to hspell (or cat, or
> anything),
> > I don't get /lib/i686/... like I got in Redhat 8 - instead I get some
> > /lib/tls/ What is that? setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /lib/i686 made
> > hspell very speedy again - 0.12 seconds - back to the acceptable 20%
> > overhead for dynamic linking.
> >
> > Does anybody know what these "tls" version of the C library are? Why
> > are they so much slower to load? Or is there another explanation to the
> > problems I'm seeing?
> >
> > Thanks for any insights,
> > Nadav.
> >
> >
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Re: Java plugin for Mozilla

2003-11-01 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El
$ cat /etc/redhat-release 
Red Hat Linux release 9 (Shrike)

$ java -version 
java version "1.4.2_01"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2_01-b06)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2_01-b06, mixed mode)

$ ls -l /usr/local/mozilla-1.5/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so 
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   72 Oct 17 12:12
/usr/local/mozilla-1.5/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so ->
/usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_01/jre/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so


Thatis, on redhat 9, use the plugin compiled with gcc3.2!


On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 17:04:20 +0200, David Harel wrote about "Java plugin for Mozilla":
> Hi,
> 
> I am trying to install Java plugin on Mozilla 1.5 on RH 9.
> It seems that I am forwarded to NS6 plugins all the time.
> Whatever I do when installing any of the plugin packages listed below 
> does not work.
> j2re-1_3_1_09-linux-i586.bin 
> j2re-1_4_2_01-linux-i586-rpm.bin
> j2re-1_3_1_09-linux-i586.rpm.bin 
> j2re-1_4_2_02-linux-i586-rpm.bin
> 
> Looking at /usr/local/mozilla/plugins I can see the link: 
> libjavaplugin_oji.so which links correctly to: 
> /usr/local/mozilla/plugins/java2/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so
> The rest of the environment seems OK as well.
> 
> One other thing is that at  ~/.mozilla/ there is a file pluginreg.dat 
> which, to the best of my knowledge, has to do with the registration of 
> the plugins. I do not know if this file should be updated to start the 
> plugin to work and if so how to update it.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Thanks.
> 
> David Harel,
> 
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Re: Hebrew in RH9 console

2003-08-21 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El
Have you run unicode_start? It is not enough to change the fonts. You have to
set the kernel to start utf-8 more (multy-byte characters) on each vt.

On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:44:03 +0300, Tzafrir Cohen wrote about "Hebrew in RH9 console":
> Hi
> 
> I'm trying to setup a RH9 computer's console font for decent Hebrew.
> 
> I put in /etc/sysconfig/i18n :
> 
> LANG=he_IL.UTF-8
> SYSFONT=LatArCyrHeb-16
> 
> When I run /sbin/setsysfont it changes the font , but after it the
> output of 'date' still shows up as gibrish, and when running 
> "vim -H +'set aleph=1488' the letters show up as something that I
> believe to be cyrillic.
> 
> The locale is already set from that /etc/sysconfig/i18n using 
> ". /etc/profile.d/lang.sh"
> 
> I tried several unimaps and acm files, but no luck. What am I missing?
> 
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mutt's send-charset

2003-06-23 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El
Dear esteemed Linuxers,

As many of you, I use mutt to do my correspondence, and as many of you should,
I use UTF-8 as my main encoding, for everything. This enables me to edit files
in French, Russian, Turkish, Hebrew at (almost) the same ease (alas I don't
understand some of the things I write, but this is a separate issue ;-). Since
most of my correspondence is in English or Hebrew with an occasional French, I
wish the e-mail to be set in the minimal necessary encoding: 'us-ascii' if pure
English, 'iso-8859-1' if some French, 'iso-8859-8-i' if Hebrew, and if needed,
'utf-8'. For that I shamefully use the mutt configuration parameters:

set charset=utf-8
set send_charset=ascii:latin1:windows-1255:utf-8
charset-hook iso-8859-8-i hebrew

'latin1' is an iconv synonym for 'iso-8889-1' and 'hebrew' is a synonym for
'iso-8859-8'. The third line is needed because otherwise iconv doesn't know
what 'iso-8859-8-i' is. The shameful part is that I have to specify
'windows-1255' in the second line! just 'hebrew' (i.e., 'iso-8859-8') also
works, but it sends the wrong mime charset - it is Visual Hebrew, and people
who get it see it is Hebrew but have to change the charset to Logical Hebrew
before reading it conveniently.  The 3rd command is useful for reading mail -
so that mutt knows how to decode Logical Hebrew, but using 'iso-8859-8-i'
instead of 'windows-1255' in the second command is no good - again wrong
mime-charset will be sent - 'iso-8859-8' (without the i). I tried to hide the
shame be replacing 'windows-1255' by 'cp1255', which is the same thing, really,
but looks less windowish, but I got complaint from some correspondents that
their mail readers didn't identify this encoding ("their problem" is not a
solution I recommend ;-)). 

Do you see a solution to my dilemma, or should I wait to the time everybody
uses UTF-8 instead of all this plethora of encodings?

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Re: Bank HaPoalim and Mozilla

2002-12-27 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El
On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 01:56:39 +0200, Ilya Konstantinov wrote about "Bank HaPoalim and 
Mozilla":
> Speaking of banks and Mozilla bugs: Bank HaPoalim's online account
> site displays its menus reversed due to a Mozilla bug:
> 
> http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165609
> 
> (yes, this is a rather obscure one; I wonder if anyone understood it)
> 
> Their site also has some issues due to IE-specific code, but the main
> issue is an actual Mozilla bug.
> 

It is interesting that reload fixes this problem, and it doesn't appear again
in the session.

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Re: redhat did it again - no howtos on iso images

2002-10-27 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El
The doc cd is extra. THe 5 cd's are RPMS and SRPMS (SRPMS start in disc 3 and
continue in disc 4 and disc 5). The doc CD contains strictly Official RedHat
8.0 Linux Manuals, more specifically the rpms

maximum-rpm-1.0-0.20020905.noarch.rpm
rhl-cg-en-8.0-2.noarch.rpm
rhl-gsg-en-8.0-4.noarch.rpm
rhl-ig-x86-en-8.0-2.noarch.rpm
rhl-rg-en-8.0-2.noarch.rpm
rhl-sg-en-8.0-2.noarch.rpm

Which are described as follows:

* Official   Red   Hat   Linux   x86  Installation  Guide:  Provides
   step-by-step  instructions  for  installing  Red  Hat  Linux, from
   gathering  information  about your system to booting Red Hat Linux
   for the first time.
 * Official  Red Hat Linux Getting Started Guide: Explains what to do
   after  installing  Red  Hat  Linux.  Learn how to manage files and
   directories, configure an email client, play audio CDs, and more.
 * Official  Red  Hat  Linux  Customization  Guide: Read about how to
   customize   your   Red   Hat  Linux  system  to  fit  your  needs.
   Step-by-step guides, designed for a beginner or intermediate user,
   are available for setting up a network interface card, configuring
   NFS shares, configuring Samba shares, managing your software using
   RPM, and much more.
 * Official  Red  Hat  Linux  Reference  Guide:  Contains  background
   information  and  solutions  for  a  variety  of different issues,
   including  the  Red Hat Linux boot process, default user and group
   configurations and methods, and HTTPD directives.
 * Official  Red  Hat  Linux  Security  Guide: Provides comprehensive
   information  about  creating  and maintaining secure Red Hat Linux
   systems.  This  guide  discusses  how  to  secure workstations and
   servers  against  malicious  intruders,  verify  system  security,
   detect  security  breaches, and react to an intrusion in the event
   one occurs.



On Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:50:11 +0200, Sagi Bashari wrote about "Re: redhat did it again 
- no howtos on iso images":
> On 27/10/2002 17:49, Arie Folger wrote:
> 
> >Did anybody else notice how HOWTOs have been effectively considered 
> >deprecated by RedHat? Any rpm anywhere available that sports a recent 
> >collection of HOWTOs? (yeah, yeah, I know, I can just download a tarball. 
> >I'll do that if the above is unavailable).
> >
> >Arie Folger
> > 
> >
> I think that one of the 5 CDs is documentation CD, I guess they're 
> somewhere in there.
> 
> Sagi
> 
> 
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Re: HTML to jpg/gif in Linux

2002-07-24 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El

Html2ps (http://www.tdb.uu.se/~jan/html2ps-1.0b3) will convert html2ps,
together with graphics, and gs (ghostscript) will convert ps to ppm (using
-sDEVICE=ppmraw; see man ppm(5) about the "portable pixmap file format"),
ppmtogif or ppmtojpeg will convert ppm to gif or jpeg, resp.  (in RedHat 7.3,
the latter programs are in the netpbm-progs-9.24-3 package). Using this
approach you can control much better the quality of your images, and you can
automate it by writing shell scripts to do it.

On Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:04:08 +0200, Ben-Nes Michael wrote about "Re: HTML to jpg/gif 
in Linux":
> >
> > On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Ben-Nes Michael wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > The plane is more like:
> > >
> > > 1. print a Web page to file
> > > 2. convert ps to jpg or gif
> >
> > why not instead just make a 'window capture' with a program such as gimp?
> >
> > > How can I print from console ( with color ) to file a web page ?
> >
> Cant print from X as the action suppose to be something automatic ( maybe
> cron ) through shell ( for web site )
> 
> > when you say 'console', you mean textual console, and 'lynx' or something
> > similar as the browser? or you mean from the console of an X workstation,
> > using a browser such as netscape, mozilla etc?
> >
> > --
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> >  or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy
> >
> >
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setxkbmap

2002-07-17 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El

Hi,

Can you tell me if I can switch the command
xmodmap -e 'clear lock'
which I use to disable the Caps Lock key, by an xkb option (which I can put in
my XF86Config-4 file)? Is there anywhere I can read about the syntax of these
options?

Thanks,

Zvi.

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[jshin@mailaps.org: a patch to pine4.44 for a better UTF-8(I18N) support]

2002-07-12 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El
does automatic
conversion for the message header. I have the following defined
in my pinerc. I haven't checked yet whether '-c' option is
specified in SUS3/POSIX. It may be a glibc/libiconv extension.

display-filters=_CHARSET(EUC-KR)_ /usr/bin/iconv -c -f EUC-KR -t UTF-8,
_CHARSET(ks_c_5601-1987)_ /usr/bin/iconv -c -f MSCP949 -t UTF-8,
_CHARSET(US-ASCII)_ /usr/bin/iconv -c -f MSCP949 -t UTF-8,
_CHARSET(ISO-8859-1)_ /usr/bin/iconv -c -f Windows-1252 -t UTF-8,
_CHARSET(ISO-8859-15)_ /usr/bin/iconv -c -f ISO8859-15 -t UTF-8,
_CHARSET(ISO-2022-JP)_ /usr/bin/iconv -c -f ISO-2022-JP  -t UTF-8,
_CHARSET(GB2312)_ /usr/bin/iconv -c -f GB2312  -t UTF-8,
_CHARSET(BIG5)_ /usr/bin/iconv -c -f BIG5  -t UTF-8,
_CHARSET(Windows-1251)_ /usr/bin/iconv -c -f WINDOWS-1251 -t UTF-8,
_CHARSET(Windows-1252)_ /usr/bin/iconv -c -f WINDOWS-1252 -t UTF-8,
_CHARSET(Windows-1253)_ /usr/bin/iconv -c -f WINDOWS-1253 -t UTF-8,
_CHARSET(ISO-8859-2)_ /usr/bin/iconv -c -f ISO8859-2 -t UTF-8,
_CHARSET(ISO-8859-3)_ /usr/bin/iconv -c -f ISO8859-3 -t UTF-8,
_CHARSET(ISO-8859-4)_ /usr/bin/iconv -c -f ISO8859-4 -t UTF-8,
_CHARSET(ISO-8859-5)_ /usr/bin/iconv -c -f ISO8859-5 -t UTF-8,
_CHARSET(ISO-8859-6)_ /usr/bin/iconv -c -f ISO8859-6 -t UTF-8,
_CHARSET(ISO-8859-7)_ /usr/bin/iconv -c -f ISO8859-7 -t UTF-8,
_CHARSET(ISO-8859-8)_ /usr/bin/iconv -c -f ISO8859-8 -t UTF-8,
_CHARSET(ISO-8859-9)_ /usr/bin/iconv -c -f ISO8859-9 -t UTF-8,
_CHARSET(ISO-8859-10)_ /usr/bin/iconv -c -f ISO8859-10 -t UTF-8,
_CHARSET(ISO-8859-11)_ /usr/bin/iconv -c -f ISO8859-11 -t UTF-8,
_CHARSET(ISO-8859-13)_ /usr/bin/iconv -c -f ISO8859-13 -t UTF-8,
_CHARSET(ISO-8859-14)_ /usr/bin/iconv -c -f ISO8859-14 -t UTF-8,
_CHARSET(ISO-8859-16)_ /usr/bin/iconv -c -f ISO8859-16 -t UTF-8,
_CHARSET(KOI8-R)_ /usr/bin/iconv -c -f KOI8-R -t UTF-8,
_CHARSET(KOI8-U)_ /usr/bin/iconv -c -f KOI8-U -t UTF-8,
_CHARSET(Windows-874)_ /usr/bin/iconv -c -f CP874 -t UTF-8,
_CHARSET(UTF-7)_ /usr/bin/iconv -c -f UTF-7 -t UTF-8


  There are a couple of problems with my patch.

One of them is that I haven't done anything to fix 'one octet ->
one column width model'.  In UTF-8, this false assumption completely
breaks down except for characters in US-ASCII(U+0020 - U+007E) as you
are well aware. Therefore,in  the message display screen, lines are
wrapped prematurely and in the message index screen, headers (subject,
recipient, etc) are truncated prematurely.

  The other is that somehow  the link to 'email  list management
information' at the end of a message with 'list management information'
header does not work. I guess it's easy to fix, but I haven't gotten
around to look into it yet.


  There may be other problems as well. I'll be glad to hear about them,
although I may not be able to fix them as quickly as I wish to.

  BTW, Pine 4.44 with my patch can also be run under non-UTF-8 terminal.
In that case, you have to set 'character-set' to the encoding of
your terminal (say, EUC-JP) and define your display filters accordingly.

  My goal was to make Pine a text-terminal version of MS OE or
Mozilla-mail in terms of I18N support. With my patch, Pine got
closer to that goal, but is still far from it. Some of features
I want to see include:


  - The encoding(MIME charset) for outgoing emails should be
decoupled from the encoding of a terminal under which Pine
is launched.

  - It should be possible to change the encoding(MIME charset)
of outgoing messages _at the time of_ composition
(as is possible with MS OE and Mozilla-Mail.)
Although going all the way to UTF-8 is desirable,
the reality is that some of my correspondents cannot
deal with UTF-8 messages. For them, I have to
write in legacy encodings. Currently, I  have to
launch another Pine with a separate pinerc to compose
my email in a legacy encoding.

  - The internal encoding conversion (as opposed to relying on
users setting display filters correctly in pinerc) with iconv

  - 'assumed-charset' should  be settable per-folder basis as well as
 globally.


   Hope a lot of people find my patch useful,

   Jungshik Shin

--
Linux-UTF8:   i18n of Linux on all levels
Archive:  http://mail.nl.linux.org/linux-utf8/

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Re: java in linux

2002-06-08 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El

I have been using JDK-1.3.1-02b from Blackdown (java-linux project at
www.blackdown.com). I find it much more reliable then Sun's JDK for linux. The
URL (for a good mirror) is

ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/java-linux/JDK-1.3.1/i386/FCS-02b/INSTALL-j2sdk

ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/java-linux/JDK-1.3.1/i386/FCS-02b/j2sdk-1.3.1-02b-FCS-linux-i386.bin


or if you don't develop, s/j2sdk/j2re/  (almost half the size).


On Fri, 07 Jun 2002 15:39:40 +0300, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote about "Re: java in linux":
> On Friday 07 June 2002 13:39, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> > for those who want, here are the two urls I found for d/l Java runtime
> > environment:
> >
> >
> > http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/118/linux/jre-info.html
> > should be the fastest, about 5 mb. click register and download. need to
> > register
> 
> Thats the OLD (1.1.8) JDK from IBM. Use this: 
> http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/linux130/?dwzone=java
> 
> >
> > http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4/download.html
> > this is java's sun. No registration. about 20mb.
> 
> Hetz
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Re: Useful Tools For Mozilla

2002-04-28 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El

Dear Tzafrir,

I tried it and it worked. I had to change the spec a little. Instead of 

 Requires: %{from}
 Provides: %{target}

I have put

 Requires: mozilla = 1.0rc1-1_rh7
 Provides: mozilla = 1.0rc1-0

Thanks a lot. I now have a new button in my compose window - Spell!

On Sat, 27 Apr 2002 21:30:36 +0300, Tzafrir Cohen wrote about "Re: Useful Tools For 
Mozilla":
> On Sat, 27 Apr 2002, Zvi Har'El wrote:
> 
> > Having downloaded and trying to install mozilla-spellchecker I got
> >
> > /usr/local/src/rpms# rpm -Uvh mozilla-spellchecker-1.0rc1-1_rh7.i386.rpm
> > error: failed dependencies:
> >   mozilla = 1.0rc1-1_rh7 is needed by mozilla-spellchecker-1.0rc1-1_rh7
> >
> > However, I have already installed mozilla-1.0rc1-0.i386.rpm from mozilla.org. I
> > hate to replace all 11 mozilla 1.0rc1-0 rpms with 1.0rc1-1_rh7 from
> > ftp://ftp.cs.cornell.edu/pub/nogin/unsorted_RPMs/mozilla/ . Do you know if
> > there exists a 1.0rc1-0 rpm for mozilla-spellchecker somewhere?
> 
> One thing you can try is to create an rpm package that will require
> mozilla 1.0rc1-0 and provide mozilla 1.0rc1-1_rh7
> 
> Here is a generic spec I use. I usually only need to change the top
> defines. In this case the versions have to be changed a bit. Save it as
> mozilla_1.0rc1-1_rh7_from_1.0rc1-0.spec, do the necessary changes, run:
> 
>   rpm -bb mozilla_1.0rc1-1_rh7_from_1.0rc1-0.spec
> 
> and install the produced rpm package.
> 
> 
> %define target bzip2-devel
> %define from libbzip2-devel
> %define name %{target}-from-%{from}
> %define version 1
> %define release 1local
> 
> Summary: demi package to allow %{from} to provide %{target}
> Name: %{name}
> Version: %{version}
> Release: %{release}
> Copyright: Public Domain
> BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-buildroot
> BuildArchitectures: noarch
> Group: System/Libraries
> # Note that you may need to add some version number requirements here:
V> Requires: %{from}
> #Requires: %{from} >= 1.0
> Provides: %{target}
> 
> %description
> A simple package to provide the resource %{target} from an existing
> package with the resource %{from}
> 
> %prep
> 
> %build
> 
> %install
> 
> %post
> 
> %clean
> 
> 
> %files
> 
> %changelog
> * Mon Oct  8 2001 Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1-1local
> - Initial package
> 
> # end of file
> 
> 
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Re: Useful Tools For Mozilla

2002-04-27 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El

Having downloaded and trying to install mozilla-spellchecker I got

/usr/local/src/rpms# rpm -Uvh mozilla-spellchecker-1.0rc1-1_rh7.i386.rpm 
error: failed dependencies:
mozilla = 1.0rc1-1_rh7 is needed by mozilla-spellchecker-1.0rc1-1_rh7

However, I have already installed mozilla-1.0rc1-0.i386.rpm from mozilla.org. I
hate to replace all 11 mozilla 1.0rc1-0 rpms with 1.0rc1-1_rh7 from
ftp://ftp.cs.cornell.edu/pub/nogin/unsorted_RPMs/mozilla/ . Do you know if
there exists a 1.0rc1-0 rpm for mozilla-spellchecker somewhere?

On Sat, 27 Apr 2002 14:41:31 +0200, David Bergman wrote about "Useful Tools For 
Mozilla":
> Since I moved from Netscape to Mozilla, I have
> greatly missed the spellchecker function and have
> tried replacing without much sucess.
> Until I found this wonderful site:
> A spellchecker tool for Mozilla's mail program.
> http://spellchecker.mozdev.org/installation.html
> 
> A utility to allow you to modify the useragent string
> which mozilla sends to servers, so you could gain access
> to web servers who deny mozilla operation.
> http://uabar.mozdev.org/
> 
> I hope you find it as helpful as I did.
> ---
> David Bergman
> 
> "I suffer from severe nonlinear waterfowl issue.
> I don't have all my ducks in a row."
> ---
> 
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encoding file names

2002-02-20 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El

Hi,

Regarding a recent discussion about Unicode file names, you might be interested
to know that NFS v4 defines path names to be UTF-8 encoded strings. See 
"NFS version 4 Protocol", RFC 3010, URL: ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc3010.txt
However, nfs-utils 0.3.1, the current version on Redhat Linux 7.2, supports
NFS v2 and v3 only. BTW, NFS v4 also have owner and group encoded in UTF-8 and
are not numeric any more!

Zvi.

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Re: imap server

2002-02-16 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El

mutt supports access to imapd server via ssh, like pin.e
The configuration line is  (from the online documentation to mutt 1.3.7)

account-hook imap://host2/ 'set tunnel="ssh host2 /usr/libexec/imapd"'


On Sun, 17 Feb 2002 01:44:14 +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote about "Re: imap server":
> Hi
> 
> An example of UW-imapd/pine "integration":
> 
> When UW-imapd is invoked from a local shell:
> 
> [tzafrir@yarden tzafrir]$ /usr/sbin/imapd
> * PREAUTH [CAPABILITY IMAP4REV1 IDLE NAMESPACE MAILBOX-REFERRALS SCAN SORT
> THREAD=REFERENCES THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT MULTIAPPEND] Pre-authenticated
> user tzafrir yarden IMAP4rev1 2001.315mdk at Sun, 17 Feb 2002 01:35:06
> +0200 (IST)
> 
> This means that I'm already authenticated as "tzafrir", and I don't have
> to login. This can be handy for people who already have shell access and
> normally authenticate using a ssh public key.
> 
> Pine supports such access method to an imap server. I couldn't find any
> trace to that in the user interface and on-line help, but the .pinerc file
> does include ssh_command, which is documented there, and it is documented
> elsewhere that ssh authentication (as well as rsh authentication) is
> attempted before plain text authentication is attempted.
> 
> Any other mailer supports this? Any other mail server?
> 
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Re: open source to replace MS ?

2002-02-08 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El

On 8 Feb 2002, tal amir wrote:

> bumped into that story at walla.
> as yatzpan says, take a look ;)
>
> http://news.walla.co.il/ts.cgi?tsscript=item&path=4&id=178960
>
The key paragraph is perhaps:

גם נימוקים פטריוטיים מהווים פיתוי רב עוצמה. 
בארה"ב נעשה ניסיון להציג את הקוד
החופשי כ"לא אמריקאי", מנוגד לרוח האמריקאית 
ונגוע ברוח קומוניסטית ועוכרת ארה"ב.
אבל עבור 96% מתושבי העולם שאינם אזרחי ארה"ב 
אי-האמריקאיות נתפשת דווקא כיתרון.
מתושבי העולם שאינם אזרחי ארה"ב אי-האמריקאיות 
נתפשת דווקא כיתרון. להצגם נימוקים
פטריוטיים מהווים פיתוי רב עוצמה. בארה"ב נעשה 
ניסיון להציג את הקוד החופשי כ"לא
אמריקאי", מנוגד לרוח האמריקאית ונגוע ברוח 
קומוניסטית ועוכרת ארה"ב. אבל עבור 96%
מתושבי העולם שאינם אזרחי ארה"ב אי-האמריקאיות 
נתפשת דווקא כיתרון.

Will M$ succeed in convincing Uncle Sam this is a communist plot?

Best,

Zvi.

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Re: Java in Konquerorjre/plugin/i386/mozilla

2002-01-31 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El

On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who has Java working in Konqueror and other
> browsers - and I'd especially like to hear recommendations about which version
> to use.

I am using Mozilla 0.9.7 with jvm from blackdown:

~$ java -version
java version "1.3.1"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build Blackdown-1.3.1-FCS)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build Blackdown-1.3.1-FCS, mixed mode)

I am completely satisfied with it, and certain problems I had with sun's jvm
disappeared. Anyway, the Kaffe jvm is only 1.1, which is a way anachronistic.

What you need is to fetch the jdk or jre (depending if you develop java or
not), from the urls (swiss mirror)

ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/java-linux/JDK-1.3.1/i386/FCS/README-j2sdk
ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/java-linux/JDK-1.3.1/i386/FCS/j2sdk-1.3.1-FCS-linux-i386.tar.bz2
ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/java-linux/JDK-1.3.1/i386/FCS/README-j2re
ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/java-linux/JDK-1.3.1/i386/FCS/j2re-1.3.1-FCS-linux-i386.tar.bz2

to bsunzip2 the tar, and symlink .../jre/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so
into the directory /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins (assuming mozilla is installed from
the rpm).

I have been using java on linux quite often, and find no problems so far with
this jvm.

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Re: Mode_switch Defined twice

2002-01-29 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El

Look at your XF86Config. You can see there
LeftAlt Meta
RightAltMeta

This makes both Alt keys Mod1.

Sometime later (and the xkb options in your XF86 config should be checked), you
define ModeSwitch, which makes ALtGr, which is another name for RightALt, into
your Mod3. At that point, the first definition should have been deleted. An
easy cure will be do comment the line "RightAlt Meta" in your Xf86 config.


On 29 Jan 2002, Aharon Schkolnik wrote:

>
> Hi.
>
> I'm running RedHat 7.2.
> I just installed the latest batch of rpms from redhat.com which
> included the latest kde, and I'm pretty sure also xfree86 and xemacs.
>
> Now, when I start xemacs I get the following:
>
> (1) (key-mapping/warning) XEmacs:  Mode_switch (0x71) generates both Mod1 and Mod3, 
>which is nonsensical.
>
>
> I checked out the story with Google, and I learned that the problem is
> related to the following:
>
> xmodmap -pm
> xmodmap:  up to 2 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses):
>
> shift   Shift_L (0x32),  Shift_R (0x3e)
> lockCaps_Lock (0x42)
> control Control_L (0x25),  Control_R (0x6d)
> mod1Alt_L (0x40),  Mode_switch (0x71)
> mod2Num_Lock (0x4d)
> mod3Mode_switch (0x71)
> mod4Super_L (0x73)
> mod5Scroll_Lock (0x4e)
>
>
> which shows that Mode_switch is defined for both mod1 and mod3.
>
> I also learned that I can fix this with
> xmodmap -e "remove mod1 = Mode_switch"
>
>
> However, I want to find the file which is causing the problem, and fix
> it there.
>
>
> My problem is that I can not find the right file.
>
> I don't have a ~/.Xmodmap file.
>
> /etc/X11/Xmodmap appears to contain only comments (lines starting with !)
>
> Where else should I look ?
>
> TIA.
>
>
>

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Re: UTF-8 editing and hebrew in webpages

2002-01-22 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El

On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Ira Abramov wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
>
> > Other alternatives: get the latest xterm (supports unicode) and the patch
> > for bidi (already built into mandrake's xterm). Or run it under biditext.
> > Or use the editor called QEmacs.
>
> ran xterm +u8, double chars now show as single chars, at times with
> funny spaces, and still the wrong font... I'll start messing around the
> xterm definitions to have Hebrew display correctly in the Xterm if I
> could at least make it display ok on Mozilla first (where Zvi's UTF-8
> pages do present correctly)
>
> > > as for editing UTF-8, ":set encoding=utf-8" does the trick of setting
> > > the encoding entered,
> >
> > OK. It definitly needs updating.
>
> you mean it's not right? what IS the right way to enter UTF-8 Hebrew in
> VI in that case? the docs for VIM 6 are 6-7 months old at most...

The way I do it, and I use UTF-8 now regularly in my xterm and vim, is to set
LC_CTYPE to he_IL.UTF-8 . The UTF-8 extension make each xterm default to utf-8,
and also Vim6, if compiled with features=big (you can check using :version),
will give you encoding=utf-8 automatically. I the he_IL is so that I can use
the hebrew keyboard outside vim, using the right-alt key, and the command which
does this for me (in my .xsession) is

setxkbmap -option grp:shift_toggle,grp_led:caps,grp:switch -model pc104 \
-rules xfree86 il

(this was descussed awhile ago here). To edit hebrew inside vim, it is not
needed. You can use the normal hebrew editing, as you do in iso-8859-8, with
one difference: the default value of aleph, being 224, is suitable only for
iso-8859-8. Therefore, I have in my vimrc the lines

" Special setup for unicode aleph. The default value, 224, is suitable for
" iso-8859-1 only!)
if &encoding == "utf-8"
set aleph=1488
endif

I actually also have seveal map! statements for maqaf, geresh and gershayim.
Lastly, I use digraphs for quotation marks. The latin double quotation mark are
"6 on the left and "9 on the right, while in hebrew I use :9 on the right
(which gives me U+201E I discussed earlier).

By the way, I use LC_CTYPE and not LC_ALL as some prefer, since I use
LC_COLLATE to be C, since I hate the English dictionary ordering of files in ls
>
> > > however I could not make it display it correctly
> > > on Eterm, gnome-term or konsole
> >
> > I would try 'xterm -u8' and konsole, as they both should support unicode
> > display. This also applies to the linux console, in a way.
>
> tried, it SEEMS to be ok, other than the font, like I said.
>
>
>

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Re: UTF-8 (was: Re: PHPNuke - with Hebrew (Logical) support)

2002-01-22 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El

Just forgot to mention: LRM and RLM are considered General Punctuation, in the
range U+2000..201B, see http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U2000.pdf.
Another character in this range which is important for Hebrew is U+201E, the
DOUBLE LOW-9 QUOTATION MARK, which should be as the opening double quotation
matk in Hebrew (see my pages below).

On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Zvi Har'El wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Eli Marmor wrote:
>
> > Zvi Har'El wrote:
> > > > umm, isn't UTF-8 8 bit with occasional 16? :)
> > >
> > > UTF-8 is one, two or three bytes per character. In the Hebrew case, a Hebrew
> > > character is two bytes.
> >
> > Of course.
> > But there are some special Hebrew characters (such as RLM/LRM, etc.)
> > that are 3.
>
> To be precise, Hebrew characters are those with Unicode representaion
> U+0590..05FF (see http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0590.pdf), and they all
> occupy two bytes in the UTF-8 encoding. Only characters U+0800 and above need
> three bytes (see utf-8(7) for detailes).  LRM and RLM, the left to right mark
> and right to left mark, are not Hebrew, even according the most liberal HOK
> HASHEVUT (law of return).
>
> > And theoretically, UTF8 can handle up to 5 bytes.
> >
>
> Six, to be precise, under the full UCS-4, which use 31-bit code space.
> However, Unicode 3.0 uses only 16-bits code space (UCS-2) and thus can be
> encoded into 3 bytes. Again, read utf-8(7) for detailes. BTW, in Java,
> everything is internally Unicode, and char is two bytes long. In C,
> wchar_t is 4 bytes long.
>
>

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Re: UTF-8 (was: Re: PHPNuke - with Hebrew (Logical) support)

2002-01-22 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El

On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Eli Marmor wrote:

> Zvi Har'El wrote:
> > > umm, isn't UTF-8 8 bit with occasional 16? :)
> >
> > UTF-8 is one, two or three bytes per character. In the Hebrew case, a Hebrew
> > character is two bytes.
>
> Of course.
> But there are some special Hebrew characters (such as RLM/LRM, etc.)
> that are 3.

To be precise, Hebrew characters are those with Unicode representaion
U+0590..05FF (see http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0590.pdf), and they all
occupy two bytes in the UTF-8 encoding. Only characters U+0800 and above need
three bytes (see utf-8(7) for detailes).  LRM and RLM, the left to right mark
and right to left mark, are not Hebrew, even according the most liberal HOK
HASHEVUT (law of return).

> And theoretically, UTF8 can handle up to 5 bytes.
>

Six, to be precise, under the full UCS-4, which use 31-bit code space.
However, Unicode 3.0 uses only 16-bits code space (UCS-2) and thus can be
encoded into 3 bytes. Again, read utf-8(7) for detailes. BTW, in Java,
everything is internally Unicode, and char is two bytes long. In C,
wchar_t is 4 bytes long.

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UTF-8 (was: Re: PHPNuke - with Hebrew (Logical) support)

2002-01-21 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El

On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Ira Abramov wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
>
> >
> > What you should do is write the whole translation in UTF-8.
>
> umm, isn't UTF-8 8 bit with occasional 16? :)

UTF-8 is one, two or three bytes per character. In the Hebrew case, a Hebrew
character is two bytes.

>
> I thought UTF-8 is problematic with some of the browsers...
>
> are there any Hebrew sites currently using UTF-8 Hebrew so I can test
> them with several browsers and study them?

Try http://JV.Gilead.org.il/FAQ/index.html.he , or http://JV.Gilead.org.il/FAQ/
if your browsers is configured to prefer the Hebrew language over other
languages. Also try http://JV.Gilead.org.il/hebrew/, and compare with the
ISO-8859-8 version in http://JV.Gilead.org.il/hebrew/jv.html .
I am in the process of moving my whole site into UTF-8: Its much easier to edit
a file in UTF-8 (in vim, of course) rather then use all those HTM entities,
especially when I used entities lik ‘ and “ (left single quote and
left double quote) etc. all the time!

Best,

Zvi.


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Re: mod_proxy with an IIS server

2002-01-21 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El

On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

>
> I have apache installed from distribution RPMs. Can I avoid a full build
> of apache?
>
> Can I avoid a full re-installation of apache?
>
>

You need a new /usr/lib/apache/libproxy.so and /usr/bin/httpd (because of the
patch in http_protocol.c). I don't know how you can get these without
rebuilding the RPM. You can unpack the RPM, modify the necessary files, and
then rebuild it.

Zvi.

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Re: mod_proxy with an IIS server

2002-01-21 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El

Tzafrir,

I checked the sources again. Vanilla Apache 1.3.22 *does not* handle
Content-Location. The new HTTP/1.1 mod_proxy *does*. You can get it from the
cvs snapshot at http://cvs.apache.org/snapshots/httpd-proxy/ , or by anonymous
cvs as follows (if your port 2401 is not blocked - it is not blocked by the
Technion's firewall)

$ export CVSROOT=:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/cvspublic
$ cvs login
CVS password: anoncvs
$ cvs checkout httpd-proxy

What you get are new files for mod_proxy and a patch for http_protocol.c in the
directory httpd-proxy/module-1.0 . If you need mod_ssl you can apply its
patches - and apply the two rejects by hand (I did it - it works well).

BTW, if you wait, you'll get everything (I hope) in apache 1.3.23 .

Zvi.
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

> On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Zvi Har'El wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I have an apache server serving content from behind a simple firewall. I
> > > would like to allow a certain w2k IIS server to serve some content as
> > > well.
> > >
> > > For various technical reasons I would like to avoid using port forwarding,
> > > and use mod_procxy, or something similar.
> > >
> > > I have added the following to my http.conf:
> > >
> > > ProxyRequests On
> > > #
> > > 
> > > Order deny,allow
> > > Deny from all
> > > # to be changed to 'all' later
> > > Allow from [my.network]
> > > # Allow from all
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> > > ProxyPass /subdir/ http://w2k_server/
> > > ProxyPassReverse /subdir/ http://w2k_server/
> > >
> > >
> > > When I get a url of /subdir/something from my server, I get the page of
> > > /something from w2k_server. However, in the page I get, I get the header
> > >
> > >   Content-Location: http://w2k_server/something
> > >
> > > I can't allow such a thing, because there is no direct external access to
> > > that URL.
> > >
> > >
> > > Isn't mod_proxy supposed to rewrite those headers?
> > > I found no mention of the fact that it doesn't on its documentation. I saw
> > > an old post that mentions a similar problem (but refers to apache 1.2.4).
> > >
> > > Any idea how to tell mod_proxy to rewrite this, or how to rewrite this
> > > header myself?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > The whole idea of ProxyPassReverse is to do exactly this, i.e, to take
> > Location, URI and Content-Location headers and map them back to the reverse
> > proxy URL space. Apache 1.3.22 does it for sure. I don't know which version of
> > Apache you are using. The documentation says "ProxyPassReverse is only
> > available in Apache 1.3b6 and later." Although it mentions only the Location
> > header, the code handles URI and Content-Location headers in the same way, but
> > I don't know when this handling started. If you wish I can check it in the CVS,
> > but I think you had better upgrade. If you do use 1.3.22, write again.
>
> I am using 1.3.22
>
> > BTW,
> > aparantly the next release, 1.3.23, will include a major mod_proxy face
> > lifting, to support HTTP 1.1 completely. The code is already in the CVS, and I
> > am using it to my best satisfaction in combination with apache 1.3.22 and
> > mod_ssl.
>
> I'll try to try it later. Thanks
>
>

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Re: mod_proxy with an IIS server

2002-01-21 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El

On Sun, 20 Jan 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

> Hi
>
> I have an apache server serving content from behind a simple firewall. I
> would like to allow a certain w2k IIS server to serve some content as
> well.
>
> For various technical reasons I would like to avoid using port forwarding,
> and use mod_procxy, or something similar.
>
> I have added the following to my http.conf:
>
> ProxyRequests On
> #
> 
> Order deny,allow
> Deny from all
> # to be changed to 'all' later
> Allow from [my.network]
> # Allow from all
> 
>
>
> ProxyPass /subdir/ http://w2k_server/
> ProxyPassReverse /subdir/ http://w2k_server/
>
>
> When I get a url of /subdir/something from my server, I get the page of
> /something from w2k_server. However, in the page I get, I get the header
>
>   Content-Location: http://w2k_server/something
>
> I can't allow such a thing, because there is no direct external access to
> that URL.
>
>
> Isn't mod_proxy supposed to rewrite those headers?
> I found no mention of the fact that it doesn't on its documentation. I saw
> an old post that mentions a similar problem (but refers to apache 1.2.4).
>
> Any idea how to tell mod_proxy to rewrite this, or how to rewrite this
> header myself?
>
> Thanks
>
>
The whole idea of ProxyPassReverse is to do exactly this, i.e, to take
Location, URI and Content-Location headers and map them back to the reverse
proxy URL space. Apache 1.3.22 does it for sure. I don't know which version of
Apache you are using. The documentation says "ProxyPassReverse is only
available in Apache 1.3b6 and later." Although it mentions only the Location
header, the code handles URI and Content-Location headers in the same way, but
I don't know when this handling started. If you wish I can check it in the CVS,
but I think you had better upgrade. If you do use 1.3.22, write again. BTW,
aparantly the next release, 1.3.23, will include a major mod_proxy face
lifting, to support HTTP 1.1 completely. The code is already in the CVS, and I
am using it to my best satisfaction in combination with apache 1.3.22 and
mod_ssl.


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Re: Hebrew in Konqueror

2002-01-15 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El

On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Ely Levy wrote:

> yes

A better answer would be: It depends on the encoding. E.g., UTF-8 doesn't work.

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Re: file creation time

2002-01-14 Thread Zvi Har&#x27;El

Hi,

On 14 Jan 2002, Erez Doron wrote:

> when i do 'ls -l' , i get the file modification time
> how do i get file creation time ?

In Linux, or in Unix in general, you can get all the information about a file
by the stat(2) function, and utilities like `ls' or `find' just use it. As you
can see from the manual of stat(2), which is pretty elaborate, file creation
time is not available. On each file or directory you have three times: atime --
time of last access, mtime -- time of last modification, ctime -- time of last
change. stat(2) explains exactly what each one means. For example, mtime is
changed when a file is written into, or a directory is modified by adding a
file into it. However it does not change e.g when the file mode (rwx) is
changed.  ctime, however, will change in either case. Again, you can read in
stat(2) exactly what is available, and either ls or find will print it for you
if you wish. But, file creation time is not available, and once the file is
modified, the creation ("initial modification") is lost.

However, while writing this reply, I found out that the 
header file has the structure of the inode on the disk, and the time fields it
has are
__u32   i_atime;/* Access time */
__u32   i_ctime;/* Creation time */
__u32   i_mtime;/* Modification time */
__u32   i_dtime;/* Deletion Time */

I don't have any information about these, and how to access them. If somebody
can enlighten us, I'll be grateful.

Kol tuv,

Zvi.

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