Re: Firefox conformity: fighting from within

[Arie Skliarouk]

And another small good news: site of Leumit Health Fund now works with
Firefox.

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On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 17:22, Arie Skliarouk  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Just a small good news: Today BGU upgraded version of HighLearn, and
> the new version does work with Firefox.
>
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Re: Firefox conformity: fighting from within

[Arie Skliarouk]

Hi,

Just a small good news: Today BGU upgraded version of HighLearn, and
the new version does work with Firefox.

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Re: Firefox conformity: fighting from within

[Avraham Rosenberg]

On Mon, Aug 04, 2008 at 11:19:34AM +0300, Ori Idan wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Avraham Rosenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 02:28:36PM +0300, Arie Skliarouk wrote:
> > ..
> > >
> > > Can members of other health funds comment on website status of theirs
> > > health fund? Namely, Meuhedet, Clalit and Maccabi?
> > >
> >
> > No problems with maccabi, using Iceweasel. Avraham
> 
> 
> Can you get results of exams? or find addresses of doctors?
> I did not try it myself other people told me it does not work well.
> Would be happy to know it works, I guess it will be the only health
> organization in Israel working good with firefox.
> 
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> Ori Idan

Yes on both counts. When asking for doctors, I got an error message, but
after clicking OK, the browser showed the relevant questions, and complied
gracefully with my request (the list/addresses etc.of all family doctors in
Jerusalem). Cheers, Avraham

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Re: Firefox conformity: fighting from within

[Ori Idan]

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Avraham Rosenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 02:28:36PM +0300, Arie Skliarouk wrote:
> ..
> >
> > Can members of other health funds comment on website status of theirs
> > health fund? Namely, Meuhedet, Clalit and Maccabi?
> >
>
> No problems with maccabi, using Iceweasel. Avraham


Can you get results of exams? or find addresses of doctors?
I did not try it myself other people told me it does not work well.
Would be happy to know it works, I guess it will be the only health
organization in Israel working good with firefox.

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Re: Firefox conformity: fighting from within

[Avraham Rosenberg]

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 02:28:36PM +0300, Arie Skliarouk wrote:
..
> 
> Can members of other health funds comment on website status of theirs
> health fund? Namely, Meuhedet, Clalit and Maccabi?
> 

No problems with maccabi, using Iceweasel. Avraham
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Re: Firefox conformity: fighting from within

[Amos Shapira]

2008/7/31 Arie Skliarouk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> to retain peoples, especially the young and healthy ones. If we can
> wrap the "firefox requirement" into something like "the other health
> clinics _does_ allows clients to...", they would listen.

Firefox by itself might not look like enough of a market force to convince them.

Maybe a better terminology to look at are:
1. IE 6 being phased out (both for portability and security reasons) -
many sites which are designed for IE6 simply won't work even with IE7.
2. Mobile internet (iPhone, Nokia, Blackberry etc) is becoming more
available - and IE-only sites (and Flash or Silverlight, in the case
of iPhone) won't work there.
3. (partially derived from 2) - Is Apple making inroads in Israel as
much as it does in the rest of the world? They come with Safari.

Just a though...

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Re: Firefox conformity: fighting from within

[Lior Okman]

Ori Idan wrote:

‎‎‎There is a lot of activity done by "Negishut Israel" regarding this 
fact.

A news paper article was published few month ago about it.

I think that people should complain about it, if they get main 
complains about the fact they do not conform to web standards, they 
will eventually change.
When you write a mail about it, please cc me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


Later on when I approach them I can refer to these mails.
If I approach them regarding web standards, after they got complaints 
from as many people as possible, this may help me convince them.


As for banks, I know that most banks are working on it. Currently the 
only banks I know that support standards are Poalim and First 
International Bank.
"Hayashir Harishon" (subsidiary of Leumi) said in a telphone 
conversation that they are aware of it and are working on it. in 2-3 
month they plan to have a new site that will conform to standards.
The fact that they said something about time frame, I think, means 
they are really doing it.
Actually, the current (recently revamped) Leumi site supports Firefox - 
I have no problem using it on Debian's IceWeasel 3.0.1.


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Manager W3C Israel office
 

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Arie Skliarouk <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


Hi,

More than a year ago, I asked about health fund conformity to web
standards (read working in Firefox).

Leumit (as of today - 2008-07-30) is not conformant.

Can members of other health funds comment on website status of theirs
health fund? Namely, Meuhedet, Clalit and Maccabi?

P.S. I still think the right way to influence the webmasters to do
necessary changes is from within, so it is their boss (affected by
leaving customers) that would push them to do the change.

P.P.S. I think Discount's bank decision to support firefox is related
to the fact that Hapoalim supported firefox and some people (including
me) switched the bank just because of that.

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From: Arie Skliarouk <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Date: Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: Leumit not working in Firefox
To: IGLU <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >


Hi,

Fortunately, health care clinics in Israel are doing whatever they can
to retain peoples, especially the young and healthy ones. If we can
wrap the "firefox requirement" into something like "the other health
clinics _does_ allows clients to...", they would listen.

So my questions are:

What on-line services other clinics allow (in comparison to the
Leumit site)?
From which browser?

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Re: Firefox conformity: fighting from within

[Ori Idan]

‎‎‎There is a lot of activity done by "Negishut Israel" regarding this fact.
A news paper article was published few month ago about it.

I think that people should complain about it, if they get main complains
about the fact they do not conform to web standards, they will eventually
change.
When you write a mail about it, please cc me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Later on when I approach them I can refer to these mails.
If I approach them regarding web standards, after they got complaints from
as many people as possible, this may help me convince them.

As for banks, I know that most banks are working on it. Currently the only
banks I know that support standards are Poalim and First International Bank.
"Hayashir Harishon" (subsidiary of Leumi) said in a telphone conversation
that they are aware of it and are working on it. in 2-3 month they plan to
have a new site that will conform to standards.
The fact that they said something about time frame, I think, means they are
really doing it.

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Manager W3C Israel office


On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Arie Skliarouk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> More than a year ago, I asked about health fund conformity to web
> standards (read working in Firefox).
>
> Leumit (as of today - 2008-07-30) is not conformant.
>
> Can members of other health funds comment on website status of theirs
> health fund? Namely, Meuhedet, Clalit and Maccabi?
>
> P.S. I still think the right way to influence the webmasters to do
> necessary changes is from within, so it is their boss (affected by
> leaving customers) that would push them to do the change.
>
> P.P.S. I think Discount's bank decision to support firefox is related
> to the fact that Hapoalim supported firefox and some people (including
> me) switched the bank just because of that.
>
> --
> Arie
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Arie Skliarouk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 10:39 PM
> Subject: Re: Leumit not working in Firefox
> To: IGLU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Fortunately, health care clinics in Israel are doing whatever they can
> to retain peoples, especially the young and healthy ones. If we can
> wrap the "firefox requirement" into something like "the other health
> clinics _does_ allows clients to...", they would listen.
>
> So my questions are:
>
> What on-line services other clinics allow (in comparison to the Leumit
> site)?
> From which browser?
>
> --
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Firefox conformity: fighting from within

[Arie Skliarouk]

Hi,

More than a year ago, I asked about health fund conformity to web
standards (read working in Firefox).

Leumit (as of today - 2008-07-30) is not conformant.

Can members of other health funds comment on website status of theirs
health fund? Namely, Meuhedet, Clalit and Maccabi?

P.S. I still think the right way to influence the webmasters to do
necessary changes is from within, so it is their boss (affected by
leaving customers) that would push them to do the change.

P.P.S. I think Discount's bank decision to support firefox is related
to the fact that Hapoalim supported firefox and some people (including
me) switched the bank just because of that.

--
Arie

-- Forwarded message --
From: Arie Skliarouk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: Leumit not working in Firefox
To: IGLU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Hi,

Fortunately, health care clinics in Israel are doing whatever they can
to retain peoples, especially the young and healthy ones. If we can
wrap the "firefox requirement" into something like "the other health
clinics _does_ allows clients to...", they would listen.

So my questions are:

What on-line services other clinics allow (in comparison to the Leumit site)?
>From which browser?

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