Re: OFFTOPIC: Asus EEE in Israel
Amos, It really depends in what context are you thinking about the EEE and it's competitors.. It's not going to replace my Thinkpad for example. It won't replace my desktop machines nor my servers at home. It's not going to be my main work machine. It's just going to be my travel machine. Where I can stick an SD card with the latest favorite XViD episodes and I can play them smoothly, where I can ssh to see whats wrong with one of the servers at work, where I can read mail and I can actually surf without limitations (limitations like no flash or any XPI plugins). BTW, there are some tricks you can play with the EEE so you won't have to scroll left-right reading a web page. I have talked to people who did buy it in US. They're using it as a 2nd laptop. It doesn't pretend to replace your main laptop, but it's a heck of a machine for stuff like I mentioned above, specially on travels or if you're giving a presentation. It's damn 1 Kilo! have you seen it's power supply? it's bigger a bit from my Nokia E61 power supply, but it's almost half the size and weight of my Thinkpad power supply and don't forget, I have to carry it, so I prefer to carry 1Kg then carry 5+ Kilos. I have checked the other machines with Hard drive instead of SSD (those are the VIA based mini laptops) and I don't recommend buying these machines. They are WAY slower, their touchpad is suitable for 10 months old baby but not an adult, their fan is constantly making noise, their build quality really sucks, their VOIP phone barely works, they cost like the EEE 8GB machine. They really suck. Take a look at http://forum.eeeuser.com/ - see how many hacks (both in hardware and software) the EEE got. It's simply amazing how people got it to overclock with some kernel module, stretch the screen with some X tricks, control the fan, added bluetooth, added storage and tons of stuff for the EEE. Thats because the PCB is very simple, the chipset is well known (Intel) and you can install any favorite Linux distribution and use it. For 300-400$ I think it's worth it. As for the mouse, with the 8G EEE, Asus supplies the purchases with a nice case and a USB mouse :) Thanks, Hetz On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 5:58 AM, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 8:13 PM, Hetz Ben Hamo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to read my review about EEE you can read it here [3]. I personally think that every sysadmin who respect himself should get one of these mini-laptops. The damn thing is 920 GRAMS including I saw three of these in a meeting last night and although they are very attractive in most things (especially the ability to run Linux on them), the owners kept mentioning the problem of the narrow screen - that it makes viewing text and web pages a bit awkward because you have to keep scrolling side-wise. Also when I played with one for a while its touch pad was a bit jerky. Also you can't flatten the screen open (it opens up to about 135 or so degrees) and at maximum opening they have tendency to tip over (the screen is a bit heavier than the keyboard). The other machine mentioned on this thread (forgot its name) which comes also with a small hard drive, might be a little more attractive for some users. These were the 7 screens with Xendros on them (at least one had Ubuntu installed on it, but I just looked at it, didn't play with it), maybe the promised 10 will be better in that regard. So they are exciting, and coming from a mainstream vendor will hopefully cause a big splash about the usability of Linux on the desktop, but... buyer beware. --Amos -- Skepticism is the lazy person's default position. my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OFFTOPIC: Asus EEE in Israel
Amos Shapira wrote: On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 8:13 PM, Hetz Ben Hamo [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip]... The other machine mentioned on this thread (forgot its name) which comes also with a small hard drive, might be a little more attractive for some users. One of them is the Everex CloudBook - http://www.everex.com/, sold in walmart for the same price, while it comes with 30GB HD and 1.2Mhz processor (some Via chip). I can't compare them too professionally but: 1. Google for Eee PC killer and you'll see several models that compete or will compete when they are released, with Asus Eee PC. 2. I would wait a bit: something with a bit bigger display, and preferably more CPU-powerful, at a similar price (and I know that Asus is going to provide an updated Eee model with bigger display) would be much more useful for wider market since it could run more than remote SSH client, email client and could actually run some software usefully. Web developers could run for example their favorite IDE (if they use one...) which can be a Java application. Boaz. These were the 7 screens with Xendros on them (at least one had Ubuntu installed on it, but I just looked at it, didn't play with it), maybe the promised 10 will be better in that regard. So they are exciting, and coming from a mainstream vendor will hopefully cause a big splash about the usability of Linux on the desktop, but... buyer beware. --Amos
Re: OFFTOPIC: Asus EEE in Israel
On 29/02/2008, Hetz Ben Hamo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I know that several people who I talked to and are subscribed to this list are really excited about Asus EEE and want to buy it. As you may know, Bezeq went out with a campaign that if you upgrade your ADSL to 4MBit, you can buy from them exclusivly the EEE for 39.90 a month (for 36 months). For more details, see [1] (it requires IE). The model that Bezeq sell if the Surf model (you can see comparison of models here [2]) which is problematic if you want more then 512MB RAM since the cover is closed and you have to open tons of screws in order to replace the SO-DIMM. It also doesn't have a webcam. I have talked to NirLight (which is the official representative of Asus in Israel) and they told me the following stuff: * You will be able to buy EEE from them starting March 30th * As much as I understood, There will be a Windows (HOME) version as well as the Linux version * They haven't determent the final prices yet. * 4GB and 8GB models will be available in black and white colors. * You can call Ronlight and register and you'll receive a notice when they'll start selling this machine officially If you want to read my review about EEE you can read it here [3]. I personally think that every sysadmin who respect himself should get one of these mini-laptops. The damn thing is 920 GRAMS including battery, and it WAY more comfortable then lugging around a full notebook or worse - using blackbarry/Nokia E90/E61/E62 to ssh to servers. Thanks, Hetz [1] - http://www.bezeq.co.il//Cultures/he-IL/Bezeq/Sales/minilaptop/minilaptop.html [2] - http://wiki.eeeuser.com/eee_pc_701#models [3] - http://witch.dyndns.org/wp/?p=284 What's IE-only about the bezeq site? Once I enabled Flash, it displayed fine. Thanks for the info. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
OFFTOPIC: Asus EEE in Israel
Hi, I know that several people who I talked to and are subscribed to this list are really excited about Asus EEE and want to buy it. As you may know, Bezeq went out with a campaign that if you upgrade your ADSL to 4MBit, you can buy from them exclusivly the EEE for 39.90 a month (for 36 months). For more details, see [1] (it requires IE). The model that Bezeq sell if the Surf model (you can see comparison of models here [2]) which is problematic if you want more then 512MB RAM since the cover is closed and you have to open tons of screws in order to replace the SO-DIMM. It also doesn't have a webcam. I have talked to NirLight (which is the official representative of Asus in Israel) and they told me the following stuff: * You will be able to buy EEE from them starting March 30th * As much as I understood, There will be a Windows (HOME) version as well as the Linux version * They haven't determent the final prices yet. * 4GB and 8GB models will be available in black and white colors. * You can call Ronlight and register and you'll receive a notice when they'll start selling this machine officially If you want to read my review about EEE you can read it here [3]. I personally think that every sysadmin who respect himself should get one of these mini-laptops. The damn thing is 920 GRAMS including battery, and it WAY more comfortable then lugging around a full notebook or worse - using blackbarry/Nokia E90/E61/E62 to ssh to servers. Thanks, Hetz [1] - http://www.bezeq.co.il//Cultures/he-IL/Bezeq/Sales/minilaptop/minilaptop.html [2] - http://wiki.eeeuser.com/eee_pc_701#models [3] - http://witch.dyndns.org/wp/?p=284 -- Skepticism is the lazy person's default position. my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OFFTOPIC: Asus EEE in Israel
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 8:13 PM, Hetz Ben Hamo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to read my review about EEE you can read it here [3]. I personally think that every sysadmin who respect himself should get one of these mini-laptops. The damn thing is 920 GRAMS including I saw three of these in a meeting last night and although they are very attractive in most things (especially the ability to run Linux on them), the owners kept mentioning the problem of the narrow screen - that it makes viewing text and web pages a bit awkward because you have to keep scrolling side-wise. Also when I played with one for a while its touch pad was a bit jerky. Also you can't flatten the screen open (it opens up to about 135 or so degrees) and at maximum opening they have tendency to tip over (the screen is a bit heavier than the keyboard). The other machine mentioned on this thread (forgot its name) which comes also with a small hard drive, might be a little more attractive for some users. These were the 7 screens with Xendros on them (at least one had Ubuntu installed on it, but I just looked at it, didn't play with it), maybe the promised 10 will be better in that regard. So they are exciting, and coming from a mainstream vendor will hopefully cause a big splash about the usability of Linux on the desktop, but... buyer beware. --Amos
