Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
> Maybe the flash works, but why the Hebrew is shown in reverse? > Because the Orange website devs test in exactly one browser/os combination? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
On Tuesday 26 May 2009 20:45:00 Tomer Cohen wrote: > (Diego - Adobe bought Macromedia long time ago) Them too. Ok. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 08:45:00PM +0300, Tomer Cohen wrote: > Reversed text in Hebrew is a long issue in Adobe Flash, which fixed in the > recent years for Windows users, but Linux (and Mac?) users of the Adobe Flash implementation. Other implementations (Gnash?) got it right. -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's tzaf...@cohens.org.il || best ICQ# 16849754 || friend ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
Reversed text in Hebrew is a long issue in Adobe Flash, which fixed in the recent years for Windows users, but Linux (and Mac?) users are still unable to read it, and there is no (as far as I know) player-side script to workaround this issue. By the way - Flash on Linux is worse than running IE under Wine. I would prefer broken HTML page with some workarounds as userscripts over "beautiful" Flash but slow to process. (Diego - Adobe bought Macromedia long time ago) Tomer. 2009/5/26 Noam Rathaus > Maybe the flash works, but why the Hebrew is shown in reverse? > > 2009/5/26 Arie Skliarouk : > > Hi, > > > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 21:07, Dotan Cohen wrote: > >> > >> 2009/1/6 sara fink : > >> > everyone who has complaints about orange web site, please post it here > >> > with > >> > the defect that bothers him. > >> > > >> > >> The device catalog is improperly displayed in Firefox, and therefore > >> unusable: > >> http://www.orange.co.il/catalog/ > >> > >> I have written to them no less than four times on the subject, each > >> time at the request of a different Linux user who brought it to my > >> attention. > > > > Just noticed that the orange replaced the FF incompatible HTML with > flash. > > http://www.orange.co.il/catalog/ > > > > Is it so hard to program in HTML nowadays? All the features they use can > be > > easily done with DHTML... > > > > At least - one less page that does not work in FF... > > -- Tomer Cohen http://tomercohen.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
Macromedia sux? On Tuesday 26 May 2009 19:11:44 Noam Rathaus wrote: > Maybe the flash works, but why the Hebrew is shown in reverse? ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
Maybe the flash works, but why the Hebrew is shown in reverse? 2009/5/26 Arie Skliarouk : > Hi, > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 21:07, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> >> 2009/1/6 sara fink : >> > everyone who has complaints about orange web site, please post it here >> > with >> > the defect that bothers him. >> > >> >> The device catalog is improperly displayed in Firefox, and therefore >> unusable: >> http://www.orange.co.il/catalog/ >> >> I have written to them no less than four times on the subject, each >> time at the request of a different Linux user who brought it to my >> attention. > > Just noticed that the orange replaced the FF incompatible HTML with flash. > http://www.orange.co.il/catalog/ > > Is it so hard to program in HTML nowadays? All the features they use can be > easily done with DHTML... > > At least - one less page that does not work in FF... > > -- > Arie > > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
Hi, On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 21:07, Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2009/1/6 sara fink : > > everyone who has complaints about orange web site, please post it here > with > > the defect that bothers him. > > > > The device catalog is improperly displayed in Firefox, and therefore > unusable: > http://www.orange.co.il/catalog/ > > I have written to them no less than four times on the subject, each > time at the request of a different Linux user who brought it to my > attention. Just noticed that the orange replaced the FF incompatible HTML with flash. http://www.orange.co.il/catalog/ Is it so hard to program in HTML nowadays? All the features they use can be easily done with DHTML... At least - one less page that does not work in FF... -- Arie ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
>> > Another site for the list: >> > http://e-services.clalit.org.il >> > >> > You can login, but basically anything from the menu doesn't work as it >> > references document.frames which is an IE only feature. >> >> Thanks, Noam. To which address did you complain? > > I have no email to complain to, I will gladly complain, but no idea where too. 1) Please do not top post. I had to rearrange the order of the replies to make a sane quote that shows content. 2) At the top of the page is the Clalit phone number *2700. You should definitely call and complain! If you don't then I will be mad at you! 3) At the top of the page is a link "Make Contact". But it is an IE-only link! Make sure to mention this when you call, and stress that _this_ is the reason that they are getting no complaints! People cannot complain! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
2009/2/6 Moshe Brace using Yahoo : > If I try to use Firefox to send mail it is not possible and I get a > horizontal red line under the bcc cell. Opera works OK. Epiphany also won't > work or others I have tried. > Moshe > That's been fixed for months! I don't have a Walla account to verify, though. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
Dotan, I have no email to complain to, I will gladly complain, but no idea where too. On Thursday 05 February 2009 22:27:34 Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Another site for the list: > > http://e-services.clalit.org.il > > > > You can login, but basically anything from the menu doesn't work as it > > references document.frames which is an IE only feature. > > Thanks, Noam. To which address did you complain? -- Noam Rathaus CTO no...@beyondsecurity.com http://www.beyondsecurity.com "Know that you are safe." Beyond Security Finalist for the "Red Herring 100 Global" Awards 2007 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
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--- On Fri, 6/2/09, Moshe Brace using Yahoo wrote: From: Moshe Brace using Yahoo Subject: Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox To: "Dotan Cohen" Date: Friday, 6 February, 2009, 3:50 PM If I try to use Firefox to send mail it is not possible and I get a horizontal red line under the bcc cell. Opera works OK. Epiphany also won't work or others I have tried. Moshe --- On Fri, 6/2/09, Dotan Cohen wrote: From: Dotan Cohen Subject: Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox To: mbrace...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: "Noam Rathaus" , linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Date: Friday, 6 February, 2009, 12:12 AM 2009/2/5 Moshe Brace using Yahoo : > Install Opera 9.6X it opens walla.co.il allowing full use So does Firefox. What problems do you have with Walla? -- Dotan Cohen ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
2009/2/5 Moshe Brace using Yahoo : > Install Opera 9.6X it opens walla.co.il allowing full use So does Firefox. What problems do you have with Walla? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
Install Opera 9.6X it opens walla.co.il allowing full use, it might open clalit. --- On Thu, 5/2/09, Noam Rathaus wrote: From: Noam Rathaus Subject: Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox To: "Arie Skliarouk" Cc: "linux-il" Date: Thursday, 5 February, 2009, 9:06 AM Another site for the list: http://e-services.clalit.org.il You can login, but basically anything from the menu doesn't work as it references document.frames which is an IE only feature. On Monday 05 January 2009 15:27:09 you wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 14:04, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > If you have any other IE-only sites, then _please_ let me know. Thanks. > > Website of Beitar Ilit bus company: > http://www.illit-t.co.il/ > > http://forms.gov.il/forms/mot/car/ca...@mot.gov.il.htm > > Looks ugly > https://www.shaam.gov.il/Shaam_internet/ > > A legitimate customer can not login. > https://www.leumit.co.il -- Noam Rathaus CTO no...@beyondsecurity.com http://www.beyondsecurity.com "Know that you are safe." Beyond Security Finalist for the "Red Herring 100 Global" Awards 2007 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
> Another site for the list: > http://e-services.clalit.org.il > > You can login, but basically anything from the menu doesn't work as it > references document.frames which is an IE only feature. > Thanks, Noam. To which address did you complain? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
Another site for the list: http://e-services.clalit.org.il You can login, but basically anything from the menu doesn't work as it references document.frames which is an IE only feature. On Monday 05 January 2009 15:27:09 you wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 14:04, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > If you have any other IE-only sites, then _please_ let me know. Thanks. > > Website of Beitar Ilit bus company: > http://www.illit-t.co.il/ > > http://forms.gov.il/forms/mot/car/ca...@mot.gov.il.htm > > Looks ugly > https://www.shaam.gov.il/Shaam_internet/ > > A legitimate customer can not login. > https://www.leumit.co.il -- Noam Rathaus CTO no...@beyondsecurity.com http://www.beyondsecurity.com "Know that you are safe." Beyond Security Finalist for the "Red Herring 100 Global" Awards 2007 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
2009/1/30 Eliezer Israel : > > I've always had trouble on Firefox with the El-Al site > www.elal.com > www.elal.co.il > Logging in as a Matmid member doesn't work. Ticketing/Reservation processes > breakdown at certain points. Solution is always to go to IE. > Have you written to them? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
I've always had trouble on Firefox with the El-Al site www.elal.com www.elal.co.il Logging in as a Matmid member doesn't work. Ticketing/Reservation processes breakdown at certain points. Solution is always to go to IE. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
2009/1/30 Tom Rosenfeld : > I just noticed that Orange seems to have fixed the Bill4u Service. I just > check my last bill and after entering the code (on a page that displays fine > in Firfox on Linux) it opened a PDF of the original bill. Yeah! > I still have problems with that site. Most of the links take me to the Not Authorized page. Firefox 3, Kubuntu. I just wrote to them. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
On Mon, 19 Jan 2009, Oren Held wrote: > On Sunday, 18 January 2009 22:48:34 Matan Ziv-Av wrote: >> On a related note: ynet.co.il reports that the computer shop lamir >> closed. Good riddance to a shop with an IE only web site. > > I've been purchasing stuff from there using Firefox for years. > They had few firefox-incompatibilities and sent the user's password in > clear-text, but it wasn't 100% IE-only as you claim. There are much worse > cases. Going to shopping cart gives (in big red letters): äàúø îåúàí ìòáåãä áãôãôï àéðèøðè à÷ñôìåøø 5 åîòìä. áãôãôðéí àçøéí ëâåï FIREFOX åðèñ÷ééô äàúø àéðå îåôéò ëîå ùàîåø ìäéåú åìà ðéúï ìáçåø áòâìú ä÷ðéåú àú ñåâ äîùìåç. áöòå äæîðåúéëí ø÷ òí ãôãôï à÷ñôìåøø. Even if they failed to make it IE only, they still get 100/100 from me for trying. -- Matan Ziv-Av. ma...@svgalib.org = To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
2009/1/19 Micha Feigin : > On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:59:12 +0200 > "Dotan Cohen" wrote: > >> 2009/1/19 Micha Feigin : >> > I write to these sites. I refuse to accept word documents from people. I've >> > gotten quite a few people used to sending me text or pdf instead of word. >> > I'm not sure if I'm the only cause but I've gotten several offices in my >> > uni to start sending PDFs along with the word documents. I've even sent >> > several sites code to correct their faulty html. I even go to the lengths >> > of refusing to use windows only course management sites and email >> > interfaces in the places I teach, telling people that if it's not >> > accessible from linux they can assume that I didn't get the information ... >> > >> >> Where do you study, Micha? I do the same at the Technion, and most >> organizations in the Technion have in fact started sending PDF. Only >> the secretary of my faculty still sends Word documents, she insists >> that nobody else complains therefore it is not a problem. >> > > I study in Tel-Aviv. Part of the point I always raise is that a lot of > computers were converted to linux both due to cost and so that they can be > used > as a cluster. I also sent as a reply to just about every mail that contains > word only data that I can't read it and if they want me to then that they > should send it as pdf. It's especially useful for things that they need me to > read ... > > The upside of them being ignorant to linux is that they don't know that > openoffice can show most documents (it does fail rather measurably on math > though) > > Another thing that may help is to go there, be nice and show her how easy it > is > to produce pdf from the word document (you can install primopdf for her, it's > free, although not open source, and works as a virtual printer). > http://www.primopdf.com/ > Thanks, I have been recommending PDF Creator: http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/pdfcreator/PDFCreator-0_9_5_setup.exe -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:59:12 +0200 "Dotan Cohen" wrote: > 2009/1/19 Micha Feigin : > > I write to these sites. I refuse to accept word documents from people. I've > > gotten quite a few people used to sending me text or pdf instead of word. > > I'm not sure if I'm the only cause but I've gotten several offices in my > > uni to start sending PDFs along with the word documents. I've even sent > > several sites code to correct their faulty html. I even go to the lengths > > of refusing to use windows only course management sites and email > > interfaces in the places I teach, telling people that if it's not > > accessible from linux they can assume that I didn't get the information ... > > > > Where do you study, Micha? I do the same at the Technion, and most > organizations in the Technion have in fact started sending PDF. Only > the secretary of my faculty still sends Word documents, she insists > that nobody else complains therefore it is not a problem. > I study in Tel-Aviv. Part of the point I always raise is that a lot of computers were converted to linux both due to cost and so that they can be used as a cluster. I also sent as a reply to just about every mail that contains word only data that I can't read it and if they want me to then that they should send it as pdf. It's especially useful for things that they need me to read ... The upside of them being ignorant to linux is that they don't know that openoffice can show most documents (it does fail rather measurably on math though) Another thing that may help is to go there, be nice and show her how easy it is to produce pdf from the word document (you can install primopdf for her, it's free, although not open source, and works as a virtual printer). http://www.primopdf.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
2009/1/19 Micha Feigin : > I write to these sites. I refuse to accept word documents from people. I've > gotten quite a few people used to sending me text or pdf instead of word. I'm > not sure if I'm the only cause but I've gotten several offices in my uni to > start sending PDFs along with the word documents. I've even sent several sites > code to correct their faulty html. I even go to the lengths of refusing to use > windows only course management sites and email interfaces in the places I > teach, telling people that if it's not accessible from linux they can assume > that I didn't get the information ... > Where do you study, Micha? I do the same at the Technion, and most organizations in the Technion have in fact started sending PDF. Only the secretary of my faculty still sends Word documents, she insists that nobody else complains therefore it is not a problem. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:34:09 +0200 "Dotan Cohen" wrote: > 2009/1/19 Micha Feigin : > > We need to convince whomever is importing apple to lower their prices, > > besides the nice machines it will force these sites to be more compliant > > when more people yell at them with "mainstream" operating systems. > > > > They are still convinced that there are only five people in the world using > > linux. > > > > Do you write to these sites, then? How do you want them to know that > we exist if we do not write to them. I have written to every single > one. Do it too. > I write to these sites. I refuse to accept word documents from people. I've gotten quite a few people used to sending me text or pdf instead of word. I'm not sure if I'm the only cause but I've gotten several offices in my uni to start sending PDFs along with the word documents. I've even sent several sites code to correct their faulty html. I even go to the lengths of refusing to use windows only course management sites and email interfaces in the places I teach, telling people that if it's not accessible from linux they can assume that I didn't get the information ... > > Another thing to do is to finally get some people who know web development > > in the market and not just people who studied html for dummies. > > > > HTML For Dummies teaches browser-agnostic code! I only wish that more > developers would use that approach. It's those who have taken some > IE-specific course or are using some MS tools to write websites that > are the problem. > Don't remember which one of those but at the time when I was reading a bit to help my wife in course she took all the books that talked about javascript, dynamic html and css were explorer only. I've had to google extensively to find more general solutions and it always required some dirty hacks to get the same page looking exactly right on all browsers (especially when complex designs and popup menus were involved). Didn't find one book that taught dynamic html and javascript in a generic manner. = To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:46:37 +0200 Oron Peled wrote: > On Monday, 19 בJanuary 2009, Micha Feigin wrote: > > On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:53:17 +0200 > > > Oron Peled wrote: > > > > I'll bet they do it for "security". Indeed, forcing people to use > > > > ActiveX is a secure way to have these people PC quickly broken into. > > > > Easier to break into the computer, but harder to break into the bank. Why do > > you think that they care about your computer? > > Lame excuse. If someone owns your computer, they'll own your bank > account in no time (OK... they'll have to wait until you login again ;-) > I'm not saying that it's a good one, but it's their side of the coin. Plus, if you need that usb thing each time you log in then they can always say that it's your fault that someone broke into your account because you left the usb key in the computer. Bad approach and I don't agree with it but gives them claims insurance probably. I never said that I endorsed it ... To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
On Sunday, 18 January 2009 22:48:34 Matan Ziv-Av wrote: > On a related note: ynet.co.il reports that the computer shop lamir > closed. Good riddance to a shop with an IE only web site. I've been purchasing stuff from there using Firefox for years. They had few firefox-incompatibilities and sent the user's password in clear-text, but it wasn't 100% IE-only as you claim. There are much worse cases. - Oren = To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
2009/1/19 Tomer Cohen : > Hi all, > > We are having our non Mozilla-Friendly websites list on > http://mozilla.org.il/evangel.shtml, but it is sightly outdated due to > lack of time and less contributors than some years ago. If you have > some feedbacks on our list, you are welcome to let us know. > Thanks for that list, Tomer. List members:!!: write to them! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
2009/1/18 Arie Skliarouk : > Another one - bank hapoalim business section: > http://www.bankhapoalim.biz/ > > Just click onto the "כניסה לחשבונותיך" and you will be automatically > redirected to a default page. > When I click that link I am taken to a page with a login form, which seems logical. Furthermore, I _am_ a Poalim member and use the site regularly (personal, not business). > Some time ago they issued padkey USB device that one must use to get access > to the site. If I understand correcly, the IE uses ActiveX to retrieve an > key from the device and transfers the key and keyboard-entered password to > the site for authenitcation. The scheme might prevent you from using Linux, > but one should still be able to use Firefox on Windows. > We would need to speak with someone with such as device, then. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
2009/1/19 Micha Feigin : > We need to convince whomever is importing apple to lower their prices, besides > the nice machines it will force these sites to be more compliant when more > people yell at them with "mainstream" operating systems. > > They are still convinced that there are only five people in the world using > linux. > Do you write to these sites, then? How do you want them to know that we exist if we do not write to them. I have written to every single one. Do it too. > Another thing to do is to finally get some people who know web development in > the market and not just people who studied html for dummies. > HTML For Dummies teaches browser-agnostic code! I only wish that more developers would use that approach. It's those who have taken some IE-specific course or are using some MS tools to write websites that are the problem. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
On Monday, 19 בJanuary 2009, Micha Feigin wrote: > On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:53:17 +0200 > > Oron Peled wrote: > > > I'll bet they do it for "security". Indeed, forcing people to use > > > ActiveX is a secure way to have these people PC quickly broken into. > > Easier to break into the computer, but harder to break into the bank. Why do > you think that they care about your computer? Lame excuse. If someone owns your computer, they'll own your bank account in no time (OK... they'll have to wait until you login again ;-) -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron No, You Can't Have My Rights, I'm Still Using Them To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
Hi all, We are having our non Mozilla-Friendly websites list on http://mozilla.org.il/evangel.shtml, but it is sightly outdated due to lack of time and less contributors than some years ago. If you have some feedbacks on our list, you are welcome to let us know. Tomer. -- Tomer Cohen http://tomercohen.com Rita Rudner - "When I eventually met Mr. Right I had no idea that his first name was Always." = To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:53:17 +0200 Diego Iastrubni wrote: > I can still remember Leumi doing this with a floppy "way then". At least > a USB device would last for several months/years. > Floppies lick balls (the 1.44, not the 1.2, they actually kickes ass and > were better, don't know why). > The why is easy, you stick more data into less space pushing the limits of the technology over the edge. > Oron Peled wrote: > > On Sunday, 18 בJanuary 2009, Arie Skliarouk wrote: > > > >> Some time ago they issued padkey USB device that one must use to get access > >> to the site. If I understand correcly, the IE uses ActiveX to retrieve an > >> key from the device and transfers the key and keyboard-entered password to > >> the site for authenitcation. > >> > > > > I'll bet they do it for "security". Indeed, forcing people to use ActiveX is > > a secure way to have these people PC quickly broken into. > > Easier to break into the computer, but harder to break into the bank. Why do you think that they care about your computer? And if it's a hasp device, it can be hell to set it up, sometimes the machines just decides it doesn't like it (especially if you stuck it in in the wrong order with installing the driver) and unless you know what you are doing it's a mess to fix. > > How lame can they be... > > > > > We need to convince whomever is importing apple to lower their prices, besides the nice machines it will force these sites to be more compliant when more people yell at them with "mainstream" operating systems. They are still convinced that there are only five people in the world using linux. Another thing to do is to finally get some people who know web development in the market and not just people who studied html for dummies. > > To > unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word > "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | > mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il > To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
Same here. Ori Idan is the address. It works even worse, you can't view the conversation details. And if you want to get it at home, you have to pay for it 11 nis. On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Dov Grobgeld wrote: > Regarding bill4u, they kept asking me if I wanted to get the bill in the > email. I said sure, but when an unusable link to their site arrived, I > called them up and tried to explain them that I expected to get a pdf file > or an html file with the contents of the bill, not a link to their useless > site. After trying to explain the difference for a while, I gave up and > requested that they keep sending me the bill in paper format... > > Regards, > Dov > > 2009/1/6 sara fink > >> the sms page is important. I will make them hear. Someone has problems >> viewing the detailed talks in bill4u orange web site? >> >> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> >>> 2009/1/6 sara fink : >>> > everyone who has complaints about orange web site, please post it here >>> with >>> > the defect that bothers him. >>> > >>> >>> The page for sending SMS does not work in Firefox. I think it works in >>> Opera, I am not sure. >>> >>> -- >>> Dotan Cohen >>> >>> http://what-is-what.com >>> http://gibberish.co.il >>> >>> ×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-× -ס-×¢-×£-פ-×¥-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת >>> ا-ب-ت-Ø«-ج-Ø-Ø®-د-Ø°-ر-ز-س-Ø´-ص-ض-Ø·-ظ-ع-غ-Ù-Ù-Ù-Ù-Ù -Ù-Ùâ-Ù-Ù >>> Ð-Ð-Ð-Ð-Ð-Ð-Ð-Ð-Ð-Ð-Ð-Ð-Ð-Ð-Ð-Ð-Ð-Ð -С-Т-У-Ф-Ð¥-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Ð-Ю-Я >>> а-б-в-г-д-е-Ñ-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-Ñ-Ñ-Ñ-Ñ-Ñ-Ñ -Ñ-Ñ-Ñ-Ñ-Ñ-Ñ-Ñ-Ñ-Ñ-Ñ >>> ä-ö-ü-Ã-Ã-Ã-à >>> >> >> > = To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
I can still remember Leumi doing this with a floppy "way then". At least a USB device would last for several months/years. Floppies lick balls (the 1.44, not the 1.2, they actually kickes ass and were better, don't know why). Oron Peled wrote: On Sunday, 18 בJanuary 2009, Arie Skliarouk wrote: Some time ago they issued padkey USB device that one must use to get access to the site. If I understand correcly, the IE uses ActiveX to retrieve an key from the device and transfers the key and keyboard-entered password to the site for authenitcation. I'll bet they do it for "security". Indeed, forcing people to use ActiveX is a secure way to have these people PC quickly broken into. How lame can they be... To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il
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On a related note: ynet.co.il reports that the computer shop lamir closed. Good riddance to a shop with an IE only web site. -- Matan Ziv-Av. ma...@svgalib.org = To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
On Sunday, 18 בJanuary 2009, Arie Skliarouk wrote: > Some time ago they issued padkey USB device that one must use to get access > to the site. If I understand correcly, the IE uses ActiveX to retrieve an > key from the device and transfers the key and keyboard-entered password to > the site for authenitcation. I'll bet they do it for "security". Indeed, forcing people to use ActiveX is a secure way to have these people PC quickly broken into. How lame can they be... -- Oron Peled Voice: +972-4-8228492 o...@actcom.co.il http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron "Linux: like the air you breathe, ubiquitous and free" To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
Hi, On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 14:04, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > If you have any other IE-only sites, then _please_ let me know. Thanks. Another one - bank hapoalim business section: http://www.bankhapoalim.biz/ Just click onto the "×× ××¡× ××ש××× ×ת××" and you will be automatically redirected to a default page. Some time ago they issued padkey USB device that one must use to get access to the site. If I understand correcly, the IE uses ActiveX to retrieve an key from the device and transfers the key and keyboard-entered password to the site for authenitcation. The scheme might prevent you from using Linux, but one should still be able to use Firefox on Windows. -- Arie = To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
2009/1/18 Dov Grobgeld : > Regarding bill4u, they kept asking me if I wanted to get the bill in the > email. I said sure, but when an unusable link to their site arrived, I > called them up and tried to explain them that I expected to get a pdf file > or an html file with the contents of the bill, not a link to their useless > site. After trying to explain the difference for a while, I gave up and > requested that they keep sending me the bill in paper format... > I had the same experience. In fact, the HTML mail pointing to the Orange website had the Hebrew displayed backwards! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
Regarding bill4u, they kept asking me if I wanted to get the bill in the email. I said sure, but when an unusable link to their site arrived, I called them up and tried to explain them that I expected to get a pdf file or an html file with the contents of the bill, not a link to their useless site. After trying to explain the difference for a while, I gave up and requested that they keep sending me the bill in paper format... Regards, Dov 2009/1/6 sara fink > the sms page is important. I will make them hear. Someone has problems > viewing the detailed talks in bill4u orange web site? > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > >> 2009/1/6 sara fink : >> > everyone who has complaints about orange web site, please post it here >> with >> > the defect that bothers him. >> > >> >> The page for sending SMS does not work in Firefox. I think it works in >> Opera, I am not sure. >> >> -- >> Dotan Cohen >> >> http://what-is-what.com >> http://gibberish.co.il >> >> ×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-×-× -ס-×¢-×£-פ-×¥-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת >> ا-ب-ت-Ø«-ج-Ø-Ø®-د-Ø°-ر-ز-س-Ø´-ص-ض-Ø·-ظ-ع-غ-Ù-Ù-Ù-Ù-Ù -Ù-Ùâ-Ù-Ù >> Ð-Ð-Ð-Ð-Ð-Ð-Ð-Ð-Ð-Ð-Ð-Ð-Ð-Ð-Ð-Ð-Ð-Ð -С-Т-У-Ф-Ð¥-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Ð-Ю-Я >> а-б-в-г-д-е-Ñ-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-Ñ-Ñ-Ñ-Ñ-Ñ-Ñ -Ñ-Ñ-Ñ-Ñ-Ñ-Ñ-Ñ-Ñ-Ñ-Ñ >> ä-ö-ü-Ã-Ã-Ã-à >> > > = To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
the sms page is important. I will make them hear. Someone has problems viewing the detailed talks in bill4u orange web site? On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2009/1/6 sara fink : > > everyone who has complaints about orange web site, please post it here > with > > the defect that bothers him. > > > > The page for sending SMS does not work in Firefox. I think it works in > Opera, I am not sure. > > -- > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com > http://gibberish.co.il > > א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת > ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي > А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я > а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я > ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü >
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
apropo cellular companies. Here is an important link http://globes.co.il/news/article.aspx?did=1000413269&fid=821 On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2009/1/6 sara fink : > > everyone who has complaints about orange web site, please post it here > with > > the defect that bothers him. > > > > The page for sending SMS does not work in Firefox. I think it works in > Opera, I am not sure. > > -- > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com > http://gibberish.co.il > > א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת > ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي > А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я > а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я > ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü >
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
2009/1/6 sara fink : > everyone who has complaints about orange web site, please post it here with > the defect that bothers him. > The page for sending SMS does not work in Firefox. I think it works in Opera, I am not sure. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
2009/1/6 sara fink : > everyone who has complaints about orange web site, please post it here with > the defect that bothers him. > The device catalog is improperly displayed in Firefox, and therefore unusable: http://www.orange.co.il/catalog/ I have written to them no less than four times on the subject, each time at the request of a different Linux user who brought it to my attention. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
everyone who has complaints about orange web site, please post it here with the defect that bothers him. On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2009/1/5 Arie Skliarouk : > > Hi, > > > >> http://forms.gov.il/forms/mot/car/ca...@mot.gov.il.htm > > > > http://www.gov.il/firstgov/topnaveng/formsEng/formsHomePageEng > > > > choose Ministry (say Ministry of transportation) > > Press search > > Click on any form in results section with type of form "Online" > > > > While the "online filling" might not work on linux, due to windows-only > > signature software, there is no reason for the site not to work from > > firefox. > > > > It gets worse! When I go to some of the ministries (Interior for > instance) the site displays in a tiny iFrame. > > -- > Dotan Cohen > > http://what-is-what.com > http://gibberish.co.il > > א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת > ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي > А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я > а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я > ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü >
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
2009/1/5 Arie Skliarouk : > Hi, > >> http://forms.gov.il/forms/mot/car/ca...@mot.gov.il.htm > > http://www.gov.il/firstgov/topnaveng/formsEng/formsHomePageEng > > choose Ministry (say Ministry of transportation) > Press search > Click on any form in results section with type of form "Online" > > While the "online filling" might not work on linux, due to windows-only > signature software, there is no reason for the site not to work from > firefox. > It gets worse! When I go to some of the ministries (Interior for instance) the site displays in a tiny iFrame. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
On Monday, 5 January 2009 22:49:25 you wrote: > http://forms.gov.il/forms/mot/car/ca...@mot.gov.il.htm [...] > While the "online filling" might not work on linux, due to windows-only > signature software, there is no reason for the site not to work from > firefox. If you want to spread the word, you can write few paragraphs about it in hebrew, which I'll post on http://israeliweb.blogli.co.il . Then we can try to get the responsible person's feedback. - Oren = To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
Hi, http://forms.gov.il/forms/mot/car/ca...@mot.gov.il.htm > http://www.gov.il/firstgov/topnaveng/formsEng/formsHomePageEng choose Ministry (say Ministry of transportation) Press search Click on any form in results section with type of form "Online" While the "online filling" might not work on linux, due to windows-only signature software, there is no reason for the site not to work from firefox. -- Arie
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
2009/1/5 Arie Skliarouk : > A legitimate customer can not login. > https://www.leumit.co.il > I know that there were problems in the past, but now it seems to work. Can you tell me what _doesn't_ work fot you so that I can contact them? Thanks. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox
2009/1/5 Arie Skliarouk : > Hi, > > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 14:04, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> >> If you have any other IE-only sites, then _please_ let me know. Thanks. > > Website of Beitar Ilit bus company: > http://www.illit-t.co.il/ > Thanks, I wrote to them. > http://forms.gov.il/forms/mot/car/ca...@mot.gov.il.htm > Can you provide a link to the page that links to this? I cannot find one by following the tree. > Looks ugly > https://www.shaam.gov.il/Shaam_internet/ > Completely useless. I cannot even find the "make contact" link. I am still looking. > A legitimate customer can not login. > https://www.leumit.co.il > I know, the wife is a member. They have been promising me Firefox support for over two years. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
