Re: looking to buy ARM servers

[Udi Finkelstein]

As written earlier, the cheapest way to get an ARM is to buy a Seagate
FreeAgent Dockstar at <300 NIS.
 This is basically a slightly trimmed down SheevaPlug.

128MB RAM
128MB NAND Flash
3 USB ports
Fanless
debian & OpenWRT available.

Please see:
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.region.israel/41327

Also look at the Amazon page for the product:
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-FreeAgent-DockStar-Network-STDSA10G-RK/dp/B002MRRU6G
It seems that the pogoplug service is now free for life, or so says one of
the Amazon user reviews.

Udi


On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Muli Ben-Yehuda  wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 05:03:39PM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > Why don't you take Atom processors?
>
> Because I want to run experiments on the ARM architecture.
>
> Cheers,
> Muli
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Re: looking to buy ARM servers

[Etzion Bar-Noy]

Get yourself an old openmoko device. They are ARM based, well documented,
with several simple options of Linux distros for them. Very weak, of course,
but for ARM games (playing with your arm :-) ) they should be just fine.

Ez

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Muli Ben-Yehuda  wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 05:03:39PM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > Why don't you take Atom processors?
>
> Because I want to run experiments on the ARM architecture.
>
> Cheers,
> Muli
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Re: looking to buy ARM servers

[Muli Ben-Yehuda]

On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 05:03:39PM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:

> Hi,
> Why don't you take Atom processors?

Because I want to run experiments on the ARM architecture.

Cheers,
Muli

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Re: looking to buy ARM servers

[Muli Ben-Yehuda]

On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 05:11:34PM +0200, Baruch Siach wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 10:14:43AM +0200, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
> > I am looking to purchase ARM servers, preferably with the new
> > Cortex-A15 processors.
> 
> The Cortex-A15 core has just been announced by ARM. Don't expect to
> see actual Cortex-A15 based chips in less than a year.

Ok -- then earlier generation CPUs would be fine too.

> > This is to run general purpose server workloads, so I would like
> > to buy full integrated servers rather than build them up myself
> > from embedded boards. Any ideas who sells such beasties in Israel?
> 
> Are you interested in processing horsepower, or storage?

Mostly processing, although storage is also interesting.
 
> The closest thing to "server" in the ARM world is probably a NAS
> box. See arch/arm/mach-kirkwood/Kconfig in a recent kernel for a
> list of some things, including QNAP and LaCie offerings. Since these
> are all ARMv5 chips with VIVT cache, their processing capabilities
> are seriously limited.

Thanks for the tip. Any recommendation on where to buy on these boards
in Israel?

Cheers,
Muli

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Re: looking to buy ARM servers

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 08:55:12PM +0200, Moish wrote:
> Did anyone on this list actually installed and maintained
> mainstream distribution on Sheevaplug ? ( or alike )
> I'm referring to a VERY light implementation of firewall/postfix/apache.
> ( all on the same machine will surprise me though )
>
> If so, please share brand,model and configuration.
>
> I'm not expecting production class here, if anyone wonders...

Stock Debian Lenny, with a backported kernel. Works fine.

As of Squeeze the standard kernel should do.

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Re: looking to buy ARM servers

[Moish]

Did anyone on this list actually installed and maintained
mainstream distribution on Sheevaplug ? ( or alike )
I'm referring to a VERY light implementation of firewall/postfix/apache.
( all on the same machine will surprise me though )

If so, please share brand,model and configuration.

I'm not expecting production class here, if anyone wonders...

Thank you
Moish



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Re: looking to buy ARM servers

[geoffrey mendelson]

On Nov 2, 2010, at 8:17 PM, Baruch Siach wrote:



Then you should go for the Coretx-A8/A9 based chips. You can have a
Beagleboard (TI OMAP based) for about $150. I don't know who sells  
them in

Israel though.



For that price  (500 NIS) you can get a dual core ATOM (2x aprox  
1.6gHz cores), capability of up to 2g RAM, 2 sata interfaces, one PCI  
(may be PCIe) slot, and so on. These take standard power supplies and  
fit standard cases. They may be too big for you.


Both Ivory and KSP sell them and I'm sure all the usual others.

Geoff.


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Re: looking to buy ARM servers

[Baruch Siach]

Hi Muli,

On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 05:30:12PM +0200, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 05:11:34PM +0200, Baruch Siach wrote:
> > Are you interested in processing horsepower, or storage?
> 
> Mostly processing, although storage is also interesting.

Then you should go for the Coretx-A8/A9 based chips. You can have a 
Beagleboard (TI OMAP based) for about $150. I don't know who sells them in 
Israel though.

> > The closest thing to "server" in the ARM world is probably a NAS
> > box. See arch/arm/mach-kirkwood/Kconfig in a recent kernel for a
> > list of some things, including QNAP and LaCie offerings. Since these
> > are all ARMv5 chips with VIVT cache, their processing capabilities
> > are seriously limited.
> 
> Thanks for the tip. Any recommendation on where to buy on these boards
> in Israel?

I have no personal experience, bug Zap is you friend.

QNAP: http://www.zap.co.il/models.aspx?sog=c-harddrive&db187326=1286371
LaCie: http://www.zap.co.il/models.aspx?sog=c-harddrive&db187326=1570185

baruch

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Re: looking to buy ARM servers

[geoffrey mendelson]

On Nov 2, 2010, at 5:03 PM, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:



Why don't you take Atom processors? more horse power (IIRC), and  
there are solutions (from Intel) which can give you a big box with  
few dozens boards and hard disks.


Didn't we have this discussion a couple of weeks ago?

Geoff.

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Re: looking to buy ARM servers

[Baruch Siach]

Hi Muli,

On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 10:14:43AM +0200, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
> I am looking to purchase ARM servers, preferably with the new
> Cortex-A15 processors.

The Cortex-A15 core has just been announced by ARM. Don't expect to see actual 
Cortex-A15 based chips in less than a year.

> This is to run general purpose server
> workloads, so I would like to buy full integrated servers rather than
> build them up myself from embedded boards. Any ideas who sells such
> beasties in Israel?

Are you interested in processing horsepower, or storage?

The closest thing to "server" in the ARM world is probably a NAS box. See 
arch/arm/mach-kirkwood/Kconfig in a recent kernel for a list of some things, 
including QNAP and LaCie offerings. Since these are all ARMv5 chips with VIVT 
cache, their processing capabilities are seriously limited.

baruch

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Re: looking to buy ARM servers

[Hetz Ben Hamo]

Hi,
Why don't you take Atom processors? more horse power (IIRC), and there are
solutions (from Intel) which can give you a big box with few dozens boards
and hard disks.

Hetz

2010/11/2 Muli Ben-Yehuda 

> Hello everyone,
>
> I am looking to purchase ARM servers, preferably with the new
> Cortex-A15 processors. This is to run general purpose server
> workloads, so I would like to buy full integrated servers rather than
> build them up myself from embedded boards. Any ideas who sells such
> beasties in Israel?
>
> Cheers,
> Muli
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