Re: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
Regarding Staroffice 5.2 installation, here are the details from the book - I did it and it worked well. Note my comments below. [begin quote] Installation Overview: You'll be installing StarOffice on the server, then running a setup file that gets installed on the server, to install StarOffice on clients. The files installed on the server include the following: * Program and help files, including the setup file used to run the client install. * A share directory containing shared resources such as templates, and configuration settings for items like printers. * a SdlSrv directory, separate from the StarOffice directory, contaning files for services and user calendars (a separate, optional install). The files installed on the client include the following: * Programs and help files, including the soffice file used to start StarOffice on the client. *A user directory containing files created by the user on that client (includes modified templates, client-specific configurations, etc.). [snip] Installing StarOffice on the Server [snip] 4. In a Linux or Solaris environment, be sure you're logged in as the user who will be runnig StarOffice. 5. In a terminal wivdow, navigate to the directory on the CD for your operating system, then to the office52 subdirectory; for example, go to /linux/office52/ 6. Type the appropriate command and press Enter: ./setup -net [snip] 12. The installation type window will appear; select Custom Installation and click Next. 13. The Select Insallation Directory window will appear. Enter the directory, new or existing, where you want to install StarOffice. Click Next. Note - If you let StarOffice create the installation directory for you, it will assign fairly restrictive access rights to it. You'll need to apply the appropriate rights to it after installation so you can access the installed setup program. [long snip] Installing StarOffice on Each Client 1. In a Linux or Solaris environment, log into the client computer as the user who will be running StarOffice there. 2. On the client computer, navigate to the office52/program directory *on the server where you installed StarOffice* (You don't need the CD for the client installation). 3. Double-clice the setup file or setup.exe file, or run either of the following commands: ./setup or ./setup.exe Note - If you have problems accessing the file, be sure that the correct access rights are set on the server computer for the client user, especially if you let StarOffice create the installation directory. 3. A welcome window will appear. Click Next [snip] 9. The installation type window will appear. Select Standard Workstation Installation. Click Next. [snip] Starting StarOffice: Multi-User You don't need to start anything on the server except, if you're using it, Schedule Server (which was started automatically). Start StarOffice on each client, either with the program item added to the desktop, or running the setup or setup.exe file in the *client's* StarOffice directory. (The program item won't appear until you restart the client). [end quote] Basically, I run staroffice by running ~/office52/soffice, that's the executable. Hope this helps anybody. The above is taken from the StarOffice 5.2 companion, ISBN 0-13-030703-3. Herouth = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
I also got hit with this when I tried installing staroffice. Here is a tried-and-tested way of installing staroffice on your linux machine in a normal, unix-like way: 1. su to root 2. run the installation with the -net option, and install in (say) /opt/staroffice6.0 (N.B. Ignore any components the installation fails to register) 3. Exit from root 4. Now that you're yourself again, edit the .sversionrc file in your home directory and REMOVE ALL MENTION of the version you are trying to install (aha!) Rename your staroffice6.0 subdirectory to eatmyshorts6.0 if it exists. 5. Now do a workstation installation: cd /opt/staroffice6.0/program setup (answer all the questions truthfully, please) 6. After the setup completes, logout and login again. The staroffice components will be visible under kde-personal-staroffice6.0 Good Luck - and enjoy the product! -- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
Tzafrir Cohen wrote (referring to Bidi support in the word processor of Open Office): I see there that bidi support is part of a greater thing called CTL (Complext Text Layout , support for any language that is more complecated than ascii ;-)), and according to that post it will take some time for the whole CTL code to be merged into OpenOffice. CTL is just a nice acronym invented in the X/Open circles to designate several languages with special presentation requirements. As far as I remember, it covers Arabic, Hebrew and Thai. There is not much similarity between the requirements of Thai and those of Arabic/Hebrew, so Bidi support can be developed without Thai and vice-versa. You can call it a partial CTL support, or just Bidi support. Merging the code into OpenOffice will be no less or more difficult than merging any other significant contribution. Shalom (Regards), Mati Bidi Architect Globalization Center Of Competency - Bidirectional Scripts IBM Israel Phone: +972 2 5870999 ext. 1202Fax: +972 2 5870333 Mobile: +972 52 554160 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
This is all a bit odd. I installed SO5.2 way back from the SuSE 7.1 distro (which put it in /opt). I had no trouble bringing it it up subsequently, under both my superuser and regular accounts. It works like a charm. (Well, it aint exactly a winner for speed, but it gets the job done.) Maybe you should try the SuSE rpm? (Schlomo Schapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] should have it on his ftp site.) DAF Adi Stav wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 08:04:01PM +0200, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Adi Stav [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It needs to be run as the same user who installed it and who owns its files. Err... I thought Sun did UNIX... Apparently, as Geoff Mendelson pointed out to me on a few occasions, Sun is a *hardware* company. Sun bought it from StarOffice, which did not UNIX but multiplatform. A big interest of Sun, the one that motivated the purchase, was not UNIX per se, nor hardware, but so-called middleware. I was not interested in a word processor for my middleware at the time, I was interested in a word processor for my Debian machine :) But I see Geoff commented that it might be possible to do a normal UNIX installation in spite of that. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
On Fri, 2002-01-11 at 13:47, Matitiahu Allouche wrote: CTL is just a nice acronym invented in the X/Open circles to designate several languages with special presentation requirements. As far as I remember, it covers Arabic, Hebrew and Thai. There is not much similarity between the requirements of Thai and those of Arabic/Hebrew, so Bidi support can be developed without Thai and vice-versa. You can call it a partial CTL support, or just Bidi support. Merging the code into OpenOffice will be no less or more difficult than merging any other significant contribution. Did anyone in the OpenOffice circles consider using Pango for the text output? Not only it can provide pluggable Complex Text Layout engines, it already has many complex scripts supported, including Hebrew with Nikud (thanks to Dov). Plus, it's LGPL. And it doesn't require Gtk+, although it serves as the text layouting base for Gtk+ 2.0. Oh, and it supports AA on XFree86. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
Ilya, It's too late to put it in right now - the release deadline if I'm not mistaken is around March (at least Sun will release it as Star Office 6.0)... Hetz On Friday 11 January 2002 17:57, Ilya Konstantinov wrote: On Fri, 2002-01-11 at 13:47, Matitiahu Allouche wrote: CTL is just a nice acronym invented in the X/Open circles to designate several languages with special presentation requirements. As far as I remember, it covers Arabic, Hebrew and Thai. There is not much similarity between the requirements of Thai and those of Arabic/Hebrew, so Bidi support can be developed without Thai and vice-versa. You can call it a partial CTL support, or just Bidi support. Merging the code into OpenOffice will be no less or more difficult than merging any other significant contribution. Did anyone in the OpenOffice circles consider using Pango for the text output? Not only it can provide pluggable Complex Text Layout engines, it already has many complex scripts supported, including Hebrew with Nikud (thanks to Dov). Plus, it's LGPL. And it doesn't require Gtk+, although it serves as the text layouting base for Gtk+ 2.0. Oh, and it supports AA on XFree86. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
if you buy SuSE, you get SO RPMs. I got it mirrored on ftp://schapiro.org Schlomo - Original Message - From: Oleg Goldshmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 4:23 PM Subject: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM? Is there an Israeli mirror of StarOffice? Is StarOffice distributed via RPM anywhere? I only found an Italian RPM at http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/Madeinlinux/Applicazioni_Office.html -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] If it ain't broken, it has not got enough features yet. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Schlomo Schapiro wrote: if you buy SuSE, you get SO RPMs. I got it mirrored on ftp://schapiro.org is anyone concerned with legalities of their actions in this country anymore? http://www.sun.com/software/star/staroffice/starofficenow/index.html Please note that no rights to distribute or integrate StarOffice with your products or services are granted unless official agreements have been executed. infact, SO6 is not available from the sun.com site since the beta ended on Dec-31. however, http://www.openoffice.org/ is released under the LGPL, so you CAN distribute it. I donno if it's worth it, but this post got my curiosity going, and the latest build is on its way here :) http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/main_faq_new_p4.html looking at their release notes, linux seems to be the platofrm with the most troubles, still. anyone knows what happend to IBM's promisses to deliver Hebrew for it in December? -- (@-Please do NOT cc: me answers posted also to the list //\Send me private mail at YourName (at) ira.abramov.org v_/_ to send me spam please use: cat spam.txt /dev/hda = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
Ira Abramov wrote: anyone knows what happend to IBM's promisses to deliver Hebrew for it in December? What December? The following? I believe they will meet this promise. But you should wait 11 months before being sure... ;-) [you know; software business... All of us have difficulties in supplying the stuff in the promised time...] -- Eli Marmor [EMAIL PROTECTED] CTO, Founder Netmask (El-Mar) Internet Technologies Ltd. __ Tel.: +972-9-766-1020 8 Yad-Harutzim St. Fax.: +972-9-766-1314 P.O.B. 7004 Mobile: +972-50-23-7338 Kfar-Saba 44641, Israel = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
Ira Abramov wrote (referring to Open Office): anyone knows what happend to IBM's promisses to deliver Hebrew for it in December? The work (phase 1 of Hebrew support for the word processor) was completed on time and has been made available for testing internally to IBM employees. The distribution outside IBM is currently on hold until some legal points (copyrights etc...) are solved. I don't know when this will happen. Brothers and sisters, join me in a silent prayer... Shalom (Regards), Mati Bidi Architect Globalization Center Of Competency - Bidirectional Scripts IBM Israel Phone: +972 2 5870999 ext. 1202Fax: +972 2 5870333 Mobile: +972 52 554160 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice installation (was: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?)
Oleg Goldshmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: StarOffice users of Israel, please tell me what have I screwed up? At the risk of increasing noise with an evident addition - I didn't find anything useful in the docs. -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] If it ain't broken, it has not got enough features yet. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Never mind, I downloaded SO5.2 from www.sun.com, and ran the setup (as root) on a RH7.1. The setup prompted me for a directory to install StarOffice components in, so I chose /usr/local/lib/office52 which seemed appropriate to me. The installation proceeded smoothly. I don't recall any surprises along the way. In the end, I symlinked /usr/local/bin/soffice to /usr/local/lib/office52/programs/soffice. Then I tried to start soffice (as a regular user). All I got was a popup saying that it can't find /usr/local/lib/office52/user/sofficerc. It offered me two buttons: Repair and Cancel. Repair throws me out to the shell, with return code 0. Cancel brings up another popup that says Do you really want to exit the StarOffice 5.2 installation program? [Yes/No] which surprised me a lot, since it is installed already (or at least I thought so). The shell return code is still 0. Haven't used it since 5.1, but with that version you installed SO as root and then install SO as a user. In the cobwebs of my mind is that there was a special option (possibly -net) that you had to specify for the root install. The user install created document directories, config files, etc, it did not install SO over again. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson Bloomberg L.P., BFM (Israel) 2 hours ahead of London, 7 hours ahead of New York. Tel: 972-(0)3-754-1158 Fax 972-(0)3-754-1236 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
Adi Stav [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It needs to be run as the same user who installed it and who owns its files. Err... I thought Sun did UNIX... Apparently, as Geoff Mendelson pointed out to me on a few occasions, Sun is a *hardware* company. -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] If it ain't broken, it has not got enough features yet. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
Geoffrey S. Mendelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Haven't used it since 5.1, but with that version you installed SO as root and then install SO as a user. In the cobwebs of my mind is that there was a special option (possibly -net) that you had to specify for the root install. It was /net up to and including 5.1, -net with 5.2. I did read the docs... Running the downloaded binary with -net (I re-installed completely) did not change anything. Running setup -net as root after that offered me to modify the installation but I didn't see anything relevant in the list of (installed) modules that was offered. Running setup as a user told me SO was already installed and the only option was to finish the program... -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] If it ain't broken, it has not got enough features yet. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Matitiahu Allouche wrote: Ira Abramov wrote (referring to Open Office): anyone knows what happend to IBM's promisses to deliver Hebrew for it in December? The work (phase 1 of Hebrew support for the word processor) was completed on time and has been made available fortesting internally to IBM employees.The distribution outside IBM is currently on hold until some legal points (copyrights etc...) are solved.I don't know when this will happen.Brothers and sisters, join me in a silent prayer... Is this the only problem? See http://L10N.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?msgId=198068listName=devJServSessionIdservlets=innncnbsr2 I see there that bidi support is part of a greater thing called CTL (Complext Text Layout , support for any language that is more complecated than ascii ;-)), and according to that post it will take some time for the whole CTL code to be merged into OpenOffice. [ This is, of course, an issue of OpenOffice's developers, and not of IBM's developers ] Is this correct? -- Tzafrir Cohen/\ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]\ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign Taub 229, 972-4-829-3942, X Against HTML Mail http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir / \ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
On 10 Jan 2002, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Geoffrey S. Mendelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Haven't used it since 5.1, but with that version you installed SO as root and then install SO as a user. In the cobwebs of my mind is that there was a special option (possibly -net) that you had to specify for the root install. It was /net up to and including 5.1, -net with 5.2. I did read the docs... Running the downloaded binary with -net (I re-installed completely) did not change anything. Running setup -net as root after that offered me to modify the installation but I didn't see anything relevant in the list of (installed) modules that was offered. Running setup as a user told me SO was already installed and the only option was to finish the program... You have completely deleted the system files before reinstalling. Have you also completely deleted the user setup files? BTW: I saw some good reviews of recent OpenOffice builds. -- Tzafrir Cohen/\ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]\ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign Taub 229, 972-4-829-3942, X Against HTML Mail http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir / \ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: BTW: I saw some good reviews of recent OpenOffice builds. well, I got and installed it today. indeed it lets only the installer run it, obviously some serious design flaw. as for the binaries bunched together with the libraries and data, I can't complain because I understand it's a must for easier inter-platform curcurrent builds. as for product quality, I didn't have enough time to test it yet. - -- (@-Please do NOT cc: me answers posted also to the list //\Send me private mail at YourName (at) ira.abramov.org v_/_ to send me spam please use: cat spam.txt /dev/hda -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://ira.abramov.org/pgp iEYEARECAAYFAjw+B8IACgkQMcwyzvePPuRFXwCeOxnw+ABRO536YJXaUcll+uEQ tPEAnAuvWwyg/k4GuDHGZTiiVzEDzrol =Ds9F -END PGP SIGNATURE- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
Is there an Israeli mirror of StarOffice? Is StarOffice distributed via RPM anywhere? I only found an Italian RPM at http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/Madeinlinux/Applicazioni_Office.html -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] If it ain't broken, it has not got enough features yet. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice - Israeli mirror? RPM?
hi, Star Office a.f.a.i.k. is Sun's distribution. so the best way is to go to www.sun.com and navigate. it is not distributed as RPM, but a regular compressed elf binary: *.bin, you simply can read the instructions in sun's site. besides, there's other wing of star office named Open Office, which is distributed as source or binary in many formats, so this one can be downloaded from www.openoffice.org be well. Max. -=O0~O0=- He took his vorpal sword in hand: Long time the manxome foe he sought - So rested he by the Tumtum tree. And stood awhile in thought. [L.Carrol Jabberwacky] On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Is there an Israeli mirror of StarOffice? Is StarOffice distributed via RPM anywhere? I only found an Italian RPM at http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/Madeinlinux/Applicazioni_Office.html -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] If it ain't broken, it has not got enough features yet. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
