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Re: deja vu

1999-03-18 Thread Schlomo Schapiro

Nope, it is not you. I am getting the same. Hey, Mailing-List-Maintainer,
Please stop it !

Schlomo

On Wed, 17 Mar 1999, Iftach Hyams wrote:

> Am I having a deja vu ?
> It seem I'm getting mail twice (in batches) - is it me, my server or the
> mailinglist ?
> 
> 




Re: changing the date

1999-03-18 Thread James Olin Oden

"Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo" wrote:

> OG>> man 8 clock
>
> man 8 hwclock
> Also, man 8 setclock
>
> At least on my RH. It was "clock" somewhere in time, but it moved to be
> hwclock - I think to emphasize that it sets hardware clock, not just some
> volatile "system time" :)
>

That did it.  I am using RH.  Thanks...james







Re: changing the date

1999-03-18 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt

James Olin Oden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > Well, the man page for clock(8) may be missing on your system, but
> > who's to blame if that is the case?
> 
> I suppose Red Hat would be to blame as it is one of their distributions (RH 5.0
> and 5.2).  I will search the net for this man page.

Or maybe you didn't install all of it...

I have RH4.* in front of me now. For what it is worth,

$ rpm -qf /usr/man/man8/clock.8
util-linux-2.5-34.1

-- 
Oleg Goldshmidt  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
BLOOMBERG L.P. (BFM) [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: changing the date

1999-03-18 Thread James Olin Oden

Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:

> James Olin Oden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Shachar Tal wrote:
> >
> > > "date -s "
> > > then "clock -w"
> > >
> >
> > I don't mean to be obtuse, but I have looked for man page for the clock
> > command (date I was familiar with) and could not find one (there was one for
> > a clock system call and one for a clock tcl call).  I do have clock program
> > in /sbin could you explain to me what it does (I am assuming it does a lot
> > more than just set the firmware clock) or at least point me to somewhere I
> > can read the docs for it?  Thanks...james
>
> I don't mean to be obnoxious, but:
>
> man 8 clock
>
> "man -k clock" would help you find it.

Well I tried doing:

   find -name "clock*" -print

while in /usr/man and found only ones I did not want.  I then did what you said
(man -k) and it showed the clock entry you mentioned (clock(8)), but in
/usr/man/man8 there is not clock entry of any kind.

>

>
>
> How would you know about "man -k"? "man man", of course. ;-) You can
> also learn about "man -a" there.
>
> Well, the man page for clock(8) may be missing on your system, but
> who's to blame if that is the case?

I suppose Red Hat would be to blame as it is one of their distributions (RH 5.0
and 5.2).  I will search the net for this man page.

Thanks...james

P.S.  Requesting one to read the man page is not obnoxious.  Its were I always go
first, but...





Re: changing the date

1999-03-18 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo

OG>> man 8 clock

man 8 hwclock
Also, man 8 setclock

At least on my RH. It was "clock" somewhere in time, but it moved to be
hwclock - I think to emphasize that it sets hardware clock, not just some
volatile "system time" :)

OG>> Well, the man page for clock(8) may be missing on your system, but
OG>> who's to blame if that is the case?

YMMV. 
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Re: changing the date

1999-03-18 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt

James Olin Oden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Shachar Tal wrote:
> 
> > "date -s "
> > then "clock -w"
> >
> 
> I don't mean to be obtuse, but I have looked for man page for the clock
> command (date I was familiar with) and could not find one (there was one for
> a clock system call and one for a clock tcl call).  I do have clock program
> in /sbin could you explain to me what it does (I am assuming it does a lot
> more than just set the firmware clock) or at least point me to somewhere I
> can read the docs for it?  Thanks...james

I don't mean to be obnoxious, but:

man 8 clock

"man -k clock" would help you find it. 

How would you know about "man -k"? "man man", of course. ;-) You can
also learn about "man -a" there. 

Well, the man page for clock(8) may be missing on your system, but
who's to blame if that is the case?

Hope it helps,

-- 
Oleg Goldshmidt  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
BLOOMBERG L.P. (BFM) [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: changing the date

1999-03-18 Thread James Olin Oden

Shachar Tal wrote:

> "date -s "
> then "clock -w"
>

I don't mean to be obtuse, but I have looked for man page for the clock
command (date I was familiar with) and could not find one (there was one for
a clock system call and one for a clock tcl call).  I do have clock program
in /sbin could you explain to me what it does (I am assuming it does a lot
more than just set the firmware clock) or at least point me to somewhere I
can read the docs for it?  Thanks...james





Re: PPP question on AIX (yes i know this is not the place i have not place else to ask)

1999-03-18 Thread Omer Zak

Hello Nezer,
Do you have a Linux machine with PPP, which you can use to call the AIX
server?
Using such a machine, you can isolate the problem and determine whether it
is in the AIX or in the Windows NT (if the Linux machine can also receive
PPP calls).

Or, lacking such a machine, can you call an ISP's PPP connection from your
Windows NT machine (this will at least isolate the problem to the AIX
machine).

Another possibility:  if the RAS scheme is similar to CHAP or PAP, you'll
not get username+password anyway.  But the PPP connection will be there
(check ping/telnet/ftp and see if they work).
  --- Omer

On Thu, 18 Mar 1999, Nezer Zaidenberg (DL-S)(22304) wrote:

> I need to esatblish a PPP connection between a PC with windows NT using
> RAS to RS/6000  station running AIX 4.2.1 with PPP package (bos.dte.ppp i
> think) installed. i am using US Robotics 33600 external sportster modems.
> the PC always initiate the call, the unix always receive. (no need to
> manage connections the other way around)
> 
> I managed to install the modem as a tty and communicate with it using cu.
> and created a ppp user on the AIX. lssrc shows that the  ppp
> daemon (subsystem) is running.
> 
> when I use the NT to call asking for terminal after dialup i get a blank
> screen with no request for user/password which leads me to beleive the
> problem is with the AIX somewhere. does anybody have a clue?




PPP question on AIX (yes i know this is not the place i have not place else to ask)

1999-03-18 Thread Nezer Zaidenberg (DL-S)(22304)

Hi!

first i wise to apologise for sending this mail to this list but as no
other source helped (well... IBM help line gave me a "cookbook" but after
following accurately every instruction and getting nothing "baked" I
called them again and the response was "can we do it on sunday, we havent
managed to operate it here" :))

I need to esatblish a PPP connection between a PC with windows NT using
RAS to RS/6000  station running AIX 4.2.1 with PPP package (bos.dte.ppp i
think) installed. i am using US Robotics 33600 external sportster modems.
the PC always initiate the call, the unix always receive. (no need to
manage connections the other way around)

I managed to install the modem as a tty and communicate with it using cu.
and created a ppp user on the AIX. lssrc shows that the  ppp
daemon (subsystem) is running.

when I use the NT to call asking for terminal after dialup i get a blank
screen with no request for user/password which leads me to beleive the
problem is with the AIX somewhere. does anybody have a clue?

 Ciao , Cheers and C'ya
   Nezer Zaidenberg AKA scipio

"work is the curse of the drinking class"
  -Oscar Wilde




Re: quicky TrueType font howto for Linux

1999-03-18 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef



"Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo" wrote:
> 

> Also, why Hebrew is "two-byte charset"? I alsways thought that hebrew
> charset in not different from any other in this regard...

AFAIK Hebrew is not two MBCS (Multi byte Character) langugae. This is
true only with far-eastern languages (like Japnesse) that sometimes uses
1 and sometimes 2 bytes to reperesent a char.

And all of this is still different from Unicode which is wide char, that
is ALWAYS uses two bytes to represent a char...

Me thinks.

> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  \/  There shall be counsels taken
> Stanislav Malyshev  /\  Stronger than Morgul-spells
> phone +972-2-6245112/\  JRRT LotR.
> http://sharat.co.il/frodo/  whois:!SM8333

-- 
Gilad Ben-Yossef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
G.Tek Technologies ltd http://www.gtekil.com
Open Source (TM) Software: Empowerment, Enlightenment, Emancipation.



Re: on virtuality (was Re: VMWare)

1999-03-18 Thread Eli Marmor

> >> What's new here is that VMware is the first program not only to make a simple
> >> sandbox for user programs (like any protected mode O/S does - Linux and NT
> >> both do this), but instead it's "sandbox" is actually emulating all the
> >> protection violations as if the sandbox is the entire machine, and not one
> >> task in many.
> >
> >Not the first. The second. Locus (now owned by Platinum, the same
> >company which also "ate" Memco) was the first, with its revolutionary
> >version 4.0 (currently 4.1.1) of "Merge". Unfortunately, they didn't
> >make it available for Linux, but only for some other x86-based
> >UNIXes. It must be admitted, though, that VMware is much more
> >superior and ambitious than Merge. IMHO, it is the most revolutionary
> >product I've ever seen.
> 
> Folks, I hope you do not confuse "first" with "first on X86".
> The notion of fully virtual was fully available on real OS's
> in the early 70's. There were many "conceptual" operating systems
> that implemented complete virtual machines, at that time.
> The most famous one is, of course, IBM's VM, that is still
> marching on. VM first ran on an IBM 360 very late model, and
> mainly on IBM/370 (hence, it was called VM/370).
> 
> Everything on that system is virtualized, user dimension and
> OS dimension. Control registers, user registers, CPU state -
> the works.
> 
> VM is still available (and in production) today - zillions of
> versions and over 25 years later.

Of course, we mentioned VM/360/370/390, and when arguing about
"first" or "second", we referred to 386 and up (8086 could always
be virtualized by 386 and up, so even virtual 8086 is not a new
thing, but only virtual 386, and of course Pentium) and we even
mentioned x86.

The quotations in the message that you replied to, didn't include
this mention, so if you missed the original message, it looked
like we referred to "first in history", but again - we referred
ONLY to 386/Pentium.

In any case, as I already wrote, while the 360/370/390 had the
required infrastructure for self virtualizibilty, Intel lacks it,
and it is very tricky to do it. Many years were needed since the
386 was released till the first VM implementation (Merge 4.0) was
released.

-- 
Eli Marmor



Re: on virtuality (was Re: VMWare)

1999-03-18 Thread Erez Doron

I asked one of the dosemu members why don't they emulate the whole
processor in protected mode instead ov v86 only, any he replied there
is work on the subject, that was half a year ago, so you may have dosemu
function as vmware (and dosemu is a lot faster) but when ?



Re: quicky TrueType font howto for Linux

1999-03-18 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo

IA>> it seems to use the hinting correctly in all font sizes, only it won't
IA>> do antialiasing like windows does (well, most of the time) and doesn't
IA>> support two-byte charsets in a font (specifically Hebrew couldn't be
IA>> displayed here from standard Hebrew windows distribution)

Or I don't understand it, or you aare wrong. You surely *can* use hebrew
from windows TTF fonts. Just use 

/usr/X11/bin/xfstt --encoding koi8-r,iso8859-1,iso8859-8,windows-1251 

and you get two encodings of russian and hebrew from every windows Unicode
(or stripped Unicode - without Chinese, etc.) font. 

Also, why Hebrew is "two-byte charset"? I alsways thought that hebrew
charset in not different from any other in this regard...
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]  \/  There shall be counsels taken
Stanislav Malyshev  /\  Stronger than Morgul-spells
phone +972-2-6245112/\  JRRT LotR.
http://sharat.co.il/frodo/  whois:!SM8333





Re: changing the date

1999-03-18 Thread Shachar Tal


"date -s "
then "clock -w"

On Thu, 18 Mar 1999, Mike wrote:

> Hi ALl
> How can i change the date on my Linux ???
> 
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 

Shachar Tal
-
Taub Computer Center, Technion, Israel Institute of Techonlogy
finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for contact information or public key.




changing the date

1999-03-18 Thread Mike

Hi ALl
How can i change the date on my Linux ???


Mike





Re: on virtuality (was Re: VMWare)

1999-03-18 Thread James Olin Oden

> Not only in theory, but also practically. And not only COULD, but also
> CAN. The new Unixware (7.1) which is released TODAY (yes, the one with
> the Linux compatibility), runs it perfectly. Moreover, if you wanted to
> run Linux and Win95 simultaneosly before yesterday, the only way was to
> install Unixware, run Linux apps using "lxrun", and run Win95 using
> Merge... (well, I think that you could do a similar thing under MacOS,
> using VirtualPC to run Win95 and Linux...).
>

Yes you can.  Virtual PC on the Mac is a truly neat piece of software.  I believe
it is an emulator though, as it emulates teh ix86 architecture on a Power PC Risc
Processor.  I wonder if VMWare will be ported to MK Linux?

...james