Linux-Misc Digest #359
Linux-Misc Digest #359, Volume #19Mon, 8 Mar 99 00:13:08 EST Contents: Re: BEST HW For Linux NoteBook Project (Robert Billing) Group renaming from uppercase to lowercase ("Øystein Gisnås") Linux Video Driver Question? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: More bad news for NT (Christopher B. Browne) Re: so, how is gnome 1.0, guys? troll (Christopher B. Browne) Re: chrony and hardware clock (Bill Unruh) Re: Why did I have to use mkfs after fdisk ??? (Jim Hill) Re: suid (Paul Kimoto) Re: Good dhcpcd FAQ? (brian moore) Re: Caldera RPMs in RH? (Donovan Rebbechi) How do I use dump with DOS/Win mounted partitions ("Robert C. Paulsen, Jr.") Uh-oh, I've got kernel panic ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows (Frank Crary) ISP callback (Patrick Lanphier) Re: GNOME ready for action? (David M. Cook) Re: Linux certification (AbsuFan) Re: Epson Stylus 640 : RH5.2 okay here ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: sunsite.unc.edu servers (Robert McConnell) Re: More bad news for NT (Michel) Re: Running behind your back: Crontab defaults? ("David Z. Maze") Re: No-Win Modem Situation (Robert Barnes) From: Robert Billing [EMAIL PROTECTED] Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.portable,uk.comp.os.linux Subject: Re: BEST HW For Linux NoteBook Project Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 23:13:17 + Pete Jewell wrote: I'd actually like to pickup an aging 386 notebook to run Linux on - any suggestions from someone who's done such a thing as to what model/manufacturer to look out for/avoid? These are often sold at auction by Thimbleby Shoreland in Reading, Berks, UK. Watch out for the RAM size though, some of them are *very* small. -- I am Robert Billing, Christian, inventor, traveller, cook and animal lover, I live near 0:46W 51:22N. http://www.tnglwood.demon.co.uk/ "Bother," said Pooh, "Eeyore, ready two photon torpedoes and lock phasers on the Heffalump, Piglet, meet me in transporter room three" -- From: "Øystein Gisnås" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Group renaming from uppercase to lowercase Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 02:26:56 +0100 Is there a smart (or stupid) way to rename all the files in a directory, or better in subdirectories, from uppercase to lowercase? -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup Subject: Linux Video Driver Question? Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 04:04:04 GMT I was looking at the Video - Hardware Compatibility list for Linux and noticed that all the ATI cards are supported by Mach8, Mach32, and Mach64 drivers. The funny thing is that some cards such as the All-in-Wonder Pro is a Rage Pro Turbo Chip, but is driven by the Mach64 driver. Is the Rage Pro Turbo chip realy a Mach64 chip? Or is linux using some sort of compatibility driver that runs both? Is Linux getting the best performance out of the chip that is possible? Does this mean that if I were to buy the latest ATI Rage Fury card that has a Rage 128 chip, that I could use the Mach64 driver? Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne) Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.linux Subject: Re: More bad news for NT Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 04:17:35 GMT On Sun, 07 Mar 1999 23:02:03 GMT, chris warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted: The GUI was actually invented by Xerox in the early 60's. but they didn't have any machines that could drive the interface. Xerox's efforts seem to have been a *bit* later than that; late '60s and early '70s. Their classic problem has not been so much that of a lack of hardware, but rather an inability to recognize that they have some pretty key technologies that they might actually want to sell. They're still doing "scary cutting edge" stuff to this day. So it was placed in a vault for someone to retrieve. What has been "harvested" has largely been harvested by others. But certainly the term "retrieve" is pretty suitable; some of the things they developed were ahead of their time, not well supportable by the technologies of the time. And as technology advances, things from the past are sometime "retrieved" from former uselessness/obsolescence, in the terms of the McLuhans' "Laws of Media"... -- Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. -- Henry Spencer http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] - "What have you contributed to free software today?..." -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne) Subject: Re: so, how is gnome 1.0, guys? troll Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 04:17:37 GMT On 8 Mar 1999 00:21:58 GMT, brian moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted: On Sun, 7 Mar 1999 21:30:22 +, Matthias Warkus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was the Sun, 07 Mar 1999
Linux-Misc Digest #360
Linux-Misc Digest #360, Volume #19Mon, 8 Mar 99 01:13:10 EST Contents: Re: KDevelop 0.3 released - an IDE for application development under Unix (Christopher B. Browne) Re: KDE? Gnome? ... confused (jik-) Re: Help: Newbie doesn't know where to start with GNOME! (jik-) getting to egcs 1.1.1 under RH 5.1 - slippery slope ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Install WordPerfect-6 Help (bori7) Re: nntp servers ("David Wall") Linux Frequently Asked Questions with Answers (Part 1 of 6) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne) Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.kde,comp.os.linux.development.apps Subject: Re: KDevelop 0.3 released - an IDE for application development under Unix Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 05:06:44 GMT On Sun, 7 Mar 1999 22:23:36 GMT, Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted: I wish to announce that since Monday, March 8th, the KDevelop Team is proud to present its new version 0.3 of the KDevelop IDE for Unix development. KDevelop is a KDE application that allows creation and development of KDE, Qt and C/C++ terminal applications that are compliant to the FSF standards I find it interesting that KDevelop claims to be "compliant to the FSF standards;" in browsing http://www.fsf.org/prep/standards_toc.html and comparing it to what's at the KDevelop web site, it notably doesn't seem that KDevelop provides functionality relating to the standards described at: http://www.fsf.org/prep/standards_28.html concerning the use of TeXInfo for documentation; http://www.fsf.org/prep/standards_40.html concerning the structure surrounding the creation of "configure"; http://www.fsf.org/prep/standards_9.html#SEC9 concerning choice of languages. It is well and good to suggest the notion of complying with standards; it is probably wiser not to claim compliance unless the system is deliberately supportive of a significant proportion of those standards. That may be planned, but I don't see that it's there yet... -- Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. -- Henry Spencer http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] - "What have you contributed to free software today?..." -- From: jik- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.rpm,linux.redhat.misc Subject: Re: KDE? Gnome? ... confused Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 20:41:45 -0800 X is a great environment, I don't personally see the need to replace it with anything. -- From: jik- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x Subject: Re: Help: Newbie doesn't know where to start with GNOME! Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 21:04:51 -0800 Um, the goal is to expand it, not shrink it. The point is the complexity of installing it. Look at your list, which you say continues, and then look at KDE. KDE has just as many programs in it, yet it has a less complicated package setup. Doesn't do you a lot of good to have a series of desktop applications when they number only 2. Well, the actual object is not commming up with more programs then the other,...that really means nothing. Expect it to get much bigger: GNOME looks quite nice so far. It shouldn't get bigger, it should become more compact and fluid. Bigger is not better under these cercumstances. It should be a breeze to install...KDE was a breeze the first time I tried it during Beta1...when is gnome going to catch up? Shit, I have seen some KDE distributions in Slackware packages...I have never seen an outside program in that form, and certainly not GNOME. GNOME has flashy graphics,...that is ALL it has over KDE, which I don't consider a bonus since it that kind of resource waste is kinda dopy in my opinion. -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: getting to egcs 1.1.1 under RH 5.1 - slippery slope Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 01:14:54 GMT Help! I'm on the slippery slope of RPM upgrading... running RH Linux 5.1 with some updates c. Sept 98, and need to get my egcs up to 1.1.1 ... Do I need to upgrade my whole RH Linux to 5.2? I hope the answer is no; would rather not bite the bullet on this right now... am currently running egcs-1.0.2-8 and get the chain of updates problem shown below. I appreciate any suggestions! --Mook [root@mook newer]# rpm -Uvh egcs-1.1.1-8.i386.rpm failed dependencies: cpp = 1.1.1 is needed by egcs-1.1.1-8 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by egcs-1.1.1-8 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by egcs-1.1.1-8 egcs = 1.0.2 is needed by egcs-c++-1.0.2-8 [root@mook newer]# rpm -ivh cpp-1.1.1-8.i386.rpm failed dependencies: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by cpp-1.1.1-8 libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by cpp-1.1.1-8 [root@mook newer]# rpm -Uvh glibc-2.1-0.990222.i386.rpm
Linux-Misc Digest #362
Linux-Misc Digest #362, Volume #19Mon, 8 Mar 99 02:13:09 EST Contents: Re: Help: Newbie doesn't know where to start with GNOME! (jik-) Re: Canon Printer (jik-) Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (Tomasz Korycki) Re: Help: Newbie doesn't know where to start with GNOME! (jik-) Re: No-Win Modem Situation (Todd Ostermeier) Linux Frequently Asked Questions with Answers (Part 6 of 6) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows (Zenin) From: jik- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x Subject: Re: Help: Newbie doesn't know where to start with GNOME! Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 21:08:35 -0800 WARGY wrote: On Sat, 06 Mar 1999 22:48:56 -0800, jik- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably will have to download the tarballs and do configure, make, make install on each and every one. There are about 20 or so packages unless you need other ones to satisfy dependencies of the GNOME packages. Unless GNOME has stopped depending on all sorts of things like it did when I tried to install it on my slackware,...he will have a long hard time of it. He is on a Slackware box, Slackware doesn't come with all sorts of nonsence preinstalled like RedHat and over 1/2 the other distros. And the GNOME depends list was not completeI had to hunt down and download all sorts of stuff after I thought I finaly had it all. I highly recomend getting KDE instead, it is easier, nicer, and it will take you more time to download then install. And not as long to download at that... Hi guys, Thanks for all your response. I appreciate it. Ok I couldn't wait around so I installed WindowMaker from www.windowmaker.org. I installed the v0.51.0 tar file. I tell you this 'window manager' looks and runs awesome. I had a some difficulty starting it as it kept telling me some fatal error with the display. That problem got fixed thanks to my busy-and-rare-to-get-hold-of unix 'guru' friend. You mention that KDE is much easier to install. On my plain vanilla Slackware 3.6 machine, it had a problem which, to be honest, I can't remember now what it was, but I know it ended with a problem so I gave up. No, Beta4 was the last I tried, but I tell you what...I have been thinking of giving it another try, to see what has changed and such,...I also want to look at some of things it does to function...I have slack3.6 and I will make the attempt and see how hard it really is. Has anyone tried the latest KDE with a fully installed Slackware 3.6? I did a full install of Slackware 3.6, including the X Server Development stuff.. I'm not sure if I should attempt to install KDE now that I've got WindowMaker installed.. or can I? Oh yeah, you 'can' even use KDE with windowmaker, but it acts kinda funny in spots...windows get resized over the panel...etc... Window Maker will not be distirbed by installing KDE. Thanks again. WARGY p.s. I'm beginning to love Linux (as long as I know how to use it). :-) -- From: jik- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Canon Printer Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 21:20:53 -0800 Gregory K. Truax wrote: I am having trouble with my Canon BJC-4200 in Linux. This never used to happen back when I used RedHat 4.2, but now with 5.2 and kernel 2.2.2, lp just does not work. I put a job in the queue, and when I use lpq or lpcstatus while scrathcing my head because nothing is printing, it says, "Waiting for lp to become ready(offline?)" even though the printer is online. Any clues as to why this happens would be greatly appreciated. I also had this problem, I haven't fixed it yetI like to use gs to conveert the file and then I cat to the printer. I did put lp1 to lp0 since they are different in 2.2.x but that didn't fix the problem Greg Truax [EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. Ghostscript also does not seem to work with my printer, if I do get it to print anything, I just get errors and a bunch of numbers on the page. What is the right gs driver for the BJC-4200? bjc600 -- From: Tomasz Korycki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 01:22:38 -0500 brian moore wrote: snip! And, yes, this means the last holdout from basing their systems on Unix concepts is Microsoft. (Just as C is called a 'portable assembly language', Unix is the most portable OS.) Hmmm Two examples just off the top of my head: MVS (S/390 OS) and OS/400 (need I explain?) -- Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Linux-Misc Digest #364
Linux-Misc Digest #364, Volume #19Mon, 8 Mar 99 06:13:07 EST Contents: Re: KDevelop 0.3 released - an IDE for application development under Unix (Christopher B. Browne) Moving /home to /usr/home Re: No-Win Modem Situation (Bill Unruh) Re: tar question ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: Database for Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: best offline newsreader? (David Steuber) Re: RealPlayer crashes. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: chrony and hardware clock (fred smith) Re: modutils for 2.2.2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: GTK/Xwindows No such file (jik-) Re: No-Win Modem Situation ("Ernie") Re: No-Win Modem Situation (Todd Ostermeier) Re: Help: Newbie doesn't know where to start with GNOME! (jik-) CD emulators for GNU/Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: Running behind your back: Crontab defaults? (oak) Re: HELP! D drive disappeared after installed RedHat5.2 (Jan van der Lee) Gnome not cooperating (Jeff Hansen) Re: Help: Newbie doesn't know where to start with GNOME! ("Bob Taylor") Partitioning without destroying data Re: NT-linux dual boot (**Nick Brown) Re: Database for Linux (Jason Clifford) Re: NT-linux dual boot (**Nick Brown) Re: Serial Mouse problems with suse 6 (**Nick Brown) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne) Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.kde,comp.os.linux.development.apps Subject: Re: KDevelop 0.3 released - an IDE for application development under Unix Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 05:06:43 GMT On Sun, 7 Mar 1999 22:23:36 GMT, Ralf Nolden [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted: I wish to announce that since Monday, March 8th, the KDevelop Team is proud to present its new version 0.3 of the KDevelop IDE for Unix development. KDevelop is a KDE application that allows creation and development of KDE, Qt and C/C++ terminal applications that are compliant to the FSF standards I find it interesting that KDevelop claims to be "compliant to the FSF standards;" in browsing http://www.fsf.org/prep/standards_toc.html and comparing it to what's at the KDevelop web site, it notably doesn't seem that KDevelop provides functionality relating to the standards described at: http://www.fsf.org/prep/standards_28.html concerning the use of TeXInfo for documentation; http://www.fsf.org/prep/standards_40.html concerning the structure surrounding the creation of "configure"; http://www.fsf.org/prep/standards_9.html#SEC9 concerning choice of languages. It is well and good to suggest the notion of complying with standards; it is probably wiser not to claim compliance unless the system is deliberately supportive of a significant proportion of those standards. That may be planned, but I don't see that it's there yet... -- Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. -- Henry Spencer http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] - "What have you contributed to free software today?..." -- Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 03:27:49 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Moving /home to /usr/home I'd like to move my /home directory to /usr/home and would like to know the correct way to do it and what problems this may create. I've just installed RH 5.2 and have not setup any user accounts yet. I created a small partition for the / directory and a large partition for the /usr directory. Should I first delete /home, then create /usr/home, then create a symbolic link for example 'ln -s /usr/home /home'? What other directories should be moved from / to /usr and linked back to /? And how large should the partition be to hold the / directory? My / directory occupies about 30 MB. In future installations, if I set the partition to 50 MB would it ever grow to more than this? Greg -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh) Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup Subject: Re: No-Win Modem Situation Date: 8 Mar 1999 08:28:50 GMT In [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hugh Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (make model)? What about the Zoom 2919? www.zoomtel is no-tell. Where can I find this info? Thanks. From what they say on the page at zoomtel, it is highly likely this is a winmodem. Get an external. (Although they do make the claim Internal models are Plug and Play or jumper-selectable for Windows NT (excluding 3.51 with RAS applications), 3.11, 3.1 DOS and other operating systems. -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: tar question Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 09:37:47 +0100 $ tar cvf /dev/"tapedevice"/ /"archivedirectory"/ will create a recursive tar-archive and send it to the tapedrive. $ tar tvf /dev/"tapedevice"/ will list the tar-archive on the tapedrive. $ tar xvf /dev/"tapedevice"/ will restore the tar-archive on the tape back to the original location. Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : I have a harddrive that is almost full. It contains : alot of small files
Linux-Misc Digest #366
Linux-Misc Digest #366, Volume #19Mon, 8 Mar 99 08:13:07 EST Contents: Re: Does Linux support Memory Mapped Files? (Alan Gauld) Re: X server for NT 4.0 ("Andy Piper") Re: best offline newsreader? (Chris Lee) strange goings on... (Eric Mosley) Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (brian moore) Re: Mounting Drives on a Win9x computer (Chris Mahmood) Re: More bad news for NT (Jason Clifford) Re: running executable from cdrom? (Chris Mahmood) Re: More bad news for NT (Jason Clifford) what "rc" scripts exist for linux? (M Sweger) Re: bvi 1.1.0 - binary editor based on vi (Gerhard Buergmann) External AOLServer database driver for InterBase released (Sebastian Skracic) Re: HELP! D drive disappeared after installed RedHat5.2 (John Thompson) Re: More bad news for NT (Justin The Cynical) mailer daemon for me (virgil) Re: best offline newsreader? (Monte Milanuk) Re: UNIX/Linux book request for SysAdms (Mihalis Tsoukalos) Re: YOU WONT BELEIVE THIS BUT ITS TRUE!!! (Keith Davey) Re: KDE? Gnome? ... confused (Keith Davey) Using lynx... How? ("Atsushi Nakagawa") Re: nntp servers (Jason Clifford) Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows (Nicolas Blais) Re: BEST HW For Linux NoteBook Project (David Damerell) From: Alan Gauld [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Does Linux support Memory Mapped Files? Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 11:07:27 + Spicy wrote: Does Linux have the capability to support Memory Mapped Files like in NT? If so where can I find some documentation on this? Dunno sorry. Also, what are the good development environments for Linux have been using Visual Studio On NT whats available on Linux Linux is the development environment. This concept takes a little getting used to if you come from a PC world but after you get used to it going back to an 'Integrated Development Environment' on a PC is hellish! Use multiple windows, vim/emacs, grep, ctags, prof, tcov, (x)gdb, etc. If you must use an IDE then emacs provides a good start with its built in compile, next-error, debug capabilities. There is also a Borland C(DOS vintage) IDE called (x)wpe. But frankly a good multi tasking OS(like Linux) with a large command set(like Linux) makes for a much more productive development environment than any IDE. Its why we develop MFC apps for NT on Unix (using Bristols MFC to Unix port). What kind of Source Management is available, currently using SourceSafe on NT. Does linux only have RCS? RCS is superior to SourceSafe IMHO. But for bigger projects you probably want to use CVS. Check out the VC package on emacs for an integrated editing/CM interface. What tools will work best for cross development on NT and Linux Python/Tkinter? :-) I don't know if Broistols MFC port is available on Linux but it certainly is for Solaris/SCO/HP/Ux etc. And works. Alan G. -- From: "Andy Piper" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: X server for NT 4.0 Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 08:45:34 - Reply-To: "Andy Piper" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael Shoemaker wrote in message 7bp8ip$sgf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Do any of you know of an xserver that will run on NT 4.0? Commercially, there's eXceed - which is excellent. It's got huge amounts of other stuff bundled in with it too - telnet, ftp, it's scriptable... well recommended. Freeware, try MI/X which is in the 'Free Downloads' section at http://www.microimages.com/ Andy -- Andy Piper Technical Analyst, Middleware Development Group phone: (01252) 528957 or (0780) 109 1431 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** All views expressed are my own! ** -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Lee) Subject: Re: best offline newsreader? Date: 8 Mar 1999 10:50:03 GMT In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] says... On 7 Mar 1999 19:14:16 GMT, "Michael Faurot" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then just bite the bullet and learn to use a differnt package such as slrn. If, as you say, your "whole point of installing Linux is a change of perspective" then forget about Agent and use something that is native to Linux. Yes, that's the best idea, and I'm willing to go with something new and different, but not something that's new and crap (to be brutal) To be brutal, Agent is crap. Thank god there's nothing that as badly thought out as Agent for linux. OK, I'm not expecting it to be fantastic, but I have seen and downloaded some Linux apps, that are designed brilliantly, and have the same quality feel design that has been lavished on Win95 apps over the last few years It's odd, but it almost seems like it needs win95 app programmers, who are up to speed on the latest refinements, to start working in Linux. So there can buggy newsreaders like Gravity which crash if you breathe too hard for linux? No thank you very much -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Mosley)
Linux-Misc Digest #367
Linux-Misc Digest #367, Volume #19Mon, 8 Mar 99 09:13:15 EST Contents: Re: Moving /home to /usr/home ("David Z. Maze") Linux Safeguards for the Consumer? ("Benjamin Sher") Re: windows 95B doesn't see FAT32 partition (Fred Heitkamp) Re: best offline newsreader? ("Richard Latimer") Re: Kernel NFS Problem; device busy (Rainer Krienke) Re: windows 95B doesn't see FAT32 partition (Fred Heitkamp) Re: tar question (John Thompson) Re: Best value in CPU for linux (Markus Wandel) Re: OS with a seamless object model (Bjorn Borud) Re: Linux Safeguards for the Consumer? (**Nick Brown) Re: No-Win Modem Situation (Andrew Comech) xosview and kernel 2.2.2 (Jean-Yves TOUMIT) who on RH5.1 (new machine) (Rick Lim) Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info (bp jendrissek) Re: crypt() linking error (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)) Re: Linux Safeguards for the Consumer? (Rod Smith) Problem with shadow - redhat 5.2 - kernel 2.2 (Jean-Yves TOUMIT) From: "David Z. Maze" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Moving /home to /usr/home Date: 08 Mar 1999 07:59:01 -0500 gbh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: gbh I'd like to move my /home directory to /usr/home and would like gbh to know the correct way to do it and what problems this may gbh create. (Why? The general idea with /usr is that it's data that doesn't change unless you reinstall or upgrade your distribution, with the possible exception of /usr/local, and /usr can (should?) be mounted read-only. Plus AFAIK there's no legacy software out there that expects to find user directories under /usr/home. If it's "I have a huge /usr partition but no other space on my disk," and gbh I've just installed RH 5.2 and have not setup any user accounts gbh yet. then you're probably better off reinstalling and either creating a sizeable /home partition or not splitting off /usr.) gbh I created a small partition for the / directory and a large gbh partition for the /usr directory. Should I first delete /home, gbh then create /usr/home, then create a symbolic link for example gbh 'ln -s /usr/home /home'? If you were going to do this, that's pretty much the right way, with a check that /usr/home has the same permissions as the original /home. gbh What other directories should be moved from / to /usr and linked gbh back to /? None of them. gbh And how large should the partition be to hold the / directory? My gbh / directory occupies about 30 MB. In future installations, if I gbh set the partition to 50 MB would it ever grow to more than this? This really depends on how you've partitioned your hard drive and what you install. If your setup is / 50 MB /usr(a lot) then you'll be hurting for space in the root partition; my Debian package database, among other things, lives in /var (and I believe RPM does the same thing), and you'll need more room in /home. If your setup is more like mine: / 32 MB /usr1000 MB /var300 MB /home 400 MB /usr/local 500 MB (with /tmp being a symlink on to /var, and on three separate disks, but no other weirdnesses) you'll be fine for space on the root partition. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/ "Hey, Doug, do you mind if I push the Emergency Booth Self-Destruct Button?" "Oh, sure, Dave, whatever...you _do_ know what that does, right?" -- From: "Benjamin Sher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Linux Safeguards for the Consumer? Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 12:46:48 GMT Dear friends: As a consumer with some experience with Dos, Win3.1 and Win95, I am in the process of deciding whether I should switch over to Linux. I am considering buying Linux on a Disk (LOAD) made by Cosmos Engineering (www.cosmoseng.com). I have been reading deeply in Red Hat Linux Unleashed in order to help me understand Linux and make a wise decision. Specs: NEC Pentium 166, MMX, 64 meg Ram. Win95 + Linux (hopefully) using LILO. QUESTIONS: 1 -- ROOT MODE SAFEGUARDS: Are there any safeguards (either command-line or by way of the GUI) against accidentally hitting the wrong key combination while in "root" mode? Does hitting such a combination of keys really result in destruction of your system (as opposed to "merely" requiring a reinstallation of Linux? 2 -- SHUTDOWN SAFEGUARDS: I am planning to buy a battery to protect me from power failures, etc. Makes a lot of sense. But what about human error? Inadvertently hitting the power button to shut down the system. I understand that fsck or File System Checker is the LInux equivalent of Scan Disk. Is it a sufficient safeguard against human error? I have read that Linux, unlike Windows, runs in "unprotected" mode. What exactly does that mean, from a practical point of view? Does that mean that the safeguards above do not apply or cannot really be applied to Linux? My decision will depend on the answers I get from you experts. Another way
Linux-Misc Digest #368
Linux-Misc Digest #368, Volume #19Mon, 8 Mar 99 14:13:10 EST Contents: Re: Database for Linux (Edwin Johnson) boot problpems ("Matthew Taulke-johnson") Re: Text editors (Mark Edel) Re: boot problpems (Jean-Yves TOUMIT) Re: Group renaming from uppercase to lowercase (Matthew Bafford) Re: xosview and kernel 2.2.2 (Brent Phillips) Re: Running behind your back: Crontab defaults? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Proxy authorisation over LDAP server SHMMAX for Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: isdn4k utilities and ISDN (King) Re: command not found not solved with ./ (fernando) about hylafax (Harris Wong) HELP:Can't load kfm on KDE (QM) Re: windows 95B doesn't see FAT32 partition (Fred Heitkamp) Re: Using lynx... How? (Walter Strong) Re: More bad news for NT (Chris Costello) Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows (Bill Gunshannon) ZIP Disk SCSI HD Installation ("Bryan Knight") Fetchmail problems (Benjamin Smith) Creative Labs Awe32 (egray7) Re: How to run boot-time scripts without rebooting (Edward Vigmond) Re: Linux VPN ("Joven (Another Linux User!)") Re: xosview and kernel 2.2.2 (Jean-Yves TOUMIT) Re: mailer daemon for me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: Public license question (Bernd Gehrmann) Problems with parport. (Jeremy) Re: nntp servers (John Hasler) Re: best offline newsreader? (John Hasler) Re: More bad news for NT (John Hasler) Network ARP problem (Patrick Lemire) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edwin Johnson) Subject: Re: Database for Linux Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 8 Mar 1999 14:19:21 GMT Take a look at mysql. I use it for a variety of databases in the company and it is extremely fast. ...Edwin On Sun, 07 Mar 1999 23:09:03 -0500, Klaus Bernpaintner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am thinking of developing a small application that requires some databasing. Initially this will be a small app, intended to run locally. Would Postgre be suitable for this, or does it consume to much resources? Are there any tools for using filebased databases (a la dBase) on Linux? Would that be more suitable? Ideas, experiences, anyone? -- ~~~ ~ Edwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ ~http://www.prysm.net/~elj~ ~ ~ ~ "Once you have flown, you will walk the ~ ~ earth with your eyes turned skyward,~ ~ for there you have been, there you long ~ ~ to return." -- da Vinci ~ ~~~ -- From: "Matthew Taulke-johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: boot problpems Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 19:43:26 +1000 i kinda linux rh 5.2 working on a 6.4 hdd and it was located on a 4 gig partition that i had going with it. on the remaining 2 gig partiton that i had there was win98. as usual win98 started playing up and it slowly progressed to a halt. from there i reinstalled win98 and now i cannot access my 4 gig linux partition. i am fairly new at this but i am guessing that win98 overwrit my master boot record, thus disabling LILO. is there any other way that i can get around the problem other than purchasing boot manager programs like system commander? matthew -- From: Mark Edel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Text editors Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 08:35:29 -0600 Greg wrote: I've just installed Red Hat 5.2. I am wondering if there is any window-based editors. I'm looking for an editor that works like textedit or jot on other UNIX workstations or something like notepad in Windows95/98. Something simple to create .txt, .html or .c files. Please help. Thank You GK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try http://www.iti.cs.tu-bs.de/soft/nedit/hlp0.html That's actually an old version of NEdit. The newest, 5.0.2, adds syntax- highlighting (the best multi-language highlighting anywhere), and a complete macro language. The official web page is at: http://www-pat.fnal.gov/nirvana/nedit.html You can download the newest version source or pre-built binary, from: ftp://ftp.fnal.gov/pub/nedit/v5_0_2/ -- Mark Edel -- From: Jean-Yves TOUMIT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: boot problpems Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 14:40:52 + Matthew Taulke-johnson wrote: i kinda linux rh 5.2 working on a 6.4 hdd and it was located on a 4 gig partition that i had going with it. on the remaining 2 gig partiton that i had there was win98. as usual win98 started playing up and it slowly progressed to a halt. from there i reinstalled win98 and now i cannot access my 4 gig linux partition. i am fairly new at this but i am guessing that win98 overwrit my master boot record, thus disabling LILO. is there any other way that i can get around the problem other than purchasing boot manager programs like system commander? Have you made a lilo bootdisk during the install (you should have done
Linux-Misc Digest #369
Linux-Misc Digest #369, Volume #19Mon, 8 Mar 99 16:13:08 EST Contents: Re: Funny errors with fsck (Jayasuthan [VorHacker]) Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: KDevelop 0.3 released - an IDE for application development under Unix (Sandy Meier) Re: PPP connection ... Help ("Keith G. Murphy") Re: new mb+cpu will it hose my linux? (Mark Tranchant) Re: modutils for 2.2.2 (Mark Tranchant) Re: UNIX/Linux book request for SysAdms (Keith Davey) Re: ftp login failed with wu.ftp_2.4.2 (Dustin Fu) Re: HELP! D drive disappeared after installed RedHat5.2 (fernando) Re: hylafax (Koen de Boevé) Startup... ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: Public license question (Barry Margolin) GNU version of phigs for Linux (?) (Neil Zanella) Re: Public license question (Barry Margolin) Re: linux for beginers (Dennis) Re: Public license question (David Kastrup) Re: BEST HW For Linux NoteBook Project (Jonathan A. Buzzard) Re: Cannot Remove LILO from MBR (Paul Sherwin) PCI soundcard a possibility?? ("Janus N. Tøndering") HELP: stuck with gcc glibc (JK) binary not found by bash (Milos Prudek) From: Jayasuthan [VorHacker] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Funny errors with fsck Date: 8 Mar 99 15:47:16 GMT Armin Kaiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha Ha Ha If I am not wrong it says right you're bonehead... well to run e2fsck you need to dismount the disk or mount it as readolny filesystem.. Again this olny works if I'm not wrong. : Hi all, : I have a problem with the parallizing filesystem check (fsck) on : all harddisks. These errors look like this: : WARNING: Possible bug found in ext2fs! Or some bonehead (you!) is : checking a mounted filesystem! (Of course I do NOT!) : inode is 2 should be 2 fixed y : . : . : When I try to check my filesystems manually with e2fsck all seems : to be normal. So what's the problem? : My system config: : Kernel 2.0.36 (SuSe Kernel), SuSe 5.2 Distribution : AMD K6/300 on a FIC VA503+ Mainboard with 64MB 100 Mhz SDRAM, MVP3 Chipset : Harddisks: Samsung 1.6 GB, Seagate 2.5 GB, IBM 10 GB : ... : TIA : Dark (Armin Kaiser) : -- == Jayasuthan [Internal Linux System] http://eplx01/suthan/ smtp%"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [External] http://still.working.on smtp%"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 18:56:25 GMT On Fri, 05 Mar 1999 09:12:17 GMT, Mark Mokryn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i can understand linus completely. do you remember 16 bit segment hell? i sure do. i never want to see that kind of brain damage ever again as long as i live. far pointers are a monumental crock. shame on you for even bringing it up! what would want a larger address space? most likely, it'd be a single massive program like a number cruncher or database application. you would have near and far 32 bit and 32+32 bit pointers. it would suck royally. it'd break all the assumptions that linux makes (basically all memory is accessible by a 32 bit pointer). if you need more address space, get a 64 cpu! for someone really needing the 36 bit space, the cost of an alpha or sparc is *not* prohibitive. It's fair enough for someone to want to build a 36 bit Linux port, so long as they're willing to take responsibility for: a) Writing it, b) Rewriting GLIBC to use 36 bit values, c) Creating a 36 bit distribution. The Xeon is not a "36-bit" machine, whatever that is... It merely has a 36-bit physical address bus. The extended address space is achieved via modifications to page table entries, i.e. it is a question of how the CPU interprets the PTE's. The CPU can be switched between the different paging modes. The Xeon, like all x86's, is a 32-bit machine. For the large part, the code needing modification is kernel code that deals with physical addresses. Depending on the architecture of Linux (which I am not familiar with), this may or may not be a ton of work. But in any case, from what I've heard in this discussion, Linux cannot even utilize more than 1 or 2 GB (depending who you ask) of physical memory, on ANY architecture. Why? This will seriously hurt Linux in the server arena. -Mark ---== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==-- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own I look at it this way. 99% of the i386 arch all the way to the pent II has a 1-2 gig memory limit. Dispite the 4 gig addressability of the CPU, the chipset will only allow up to 1 gig. more than that is ignored and is inaccessable because of the chipset. You want more memory, use a computer that can handle more memory instead of complaining about no support for
Linux-Misc Digest #370
Linux-Misc Digest #370, Volume #19Mon, 8 Mar 99 17:13:08 EST Contents: Re: More bad news for NT (Harry) Re: Linux networking nukes kernel of SCO box. ("Dan Tager") Re: Linux Safeguards for the Consumer? (Seth Van Oort) Re: Moving /home to /usr/home Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (Robert Krawitz) Re: Used WWW.DEJANEWS.COM ! (Jess C. Gehin) Re: command not found not solved with ./ (Allen Ashley) Re: Startup... (Jason Clifford) Re: egcs 1.1.1 i386.rpm where ? (Dramen Mendra) Re: command not found not solved with ./ (Art Green) Newbie - help modifying sendmail 8.8.5-4 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: need some application recommendations (Andy Harrison) Re: best offline newsreader? ("Rufus V. Smith") From: Harry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: More bad news for NT Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 15:55:27 -0500 John Hasler wrote: Putting a GUI on a server is like putting a Cadillac suspension on a pickup truck I've got to disagree - when no-one is logged in, the user interface isn't loaded (what you see before login is *not* Explorer). This means that an NT Server sitting quietly in a corner isn't being weighed down by the UI. Also, NT *does* allow remote administration from other NT systems (Server and Workstation) and even Win 95/98 systems. What NT doesn't support is a remote console, which is another matter. NT basically isn't (bar Terminal Server Edition) a multi-user system. Harry -- From: "Dan Tager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Crossposted-To: comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.os.linux.networking Subject: Re: Linux networking nukes kernel of SCO box. Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 15:51:11 -0500 Craig Macbride wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Easy way to crash SCO OSR 5.0.5 kernel: 1) Attach Linux machine to network, with lpd pointed at SCO box. 2) Wait about 2 hours. 3) SCO kernel panics with trap type E in kernel function tcp_linput while running lpd. (In particular, this happens with 5.2 Redhat running 2.0.36 Linux kernel and SCO 5.0.5 with rs505a and app477a loaded.) I'd like to request that Linux developers try to nuke Windoze boxes and leave SCO boxes alone. :-) Hmmm... I've had a Linux box, 2.0.35, with lpd pointing to a SCO box, 5.0.2c with OSS468 and 449. Both have been up for many months now with no problems. Did something break in newer versions? I'm getting ready to upgrade our SCO box to 5.0.5. I guess I better do some testing --Dan -- From: Seth Van Oort [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux Safeguards for the Consumer? Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 21:11:09 + Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear friends: As a consumer with some experience with Dos, Win3.1 and Win95, I am in the process of deciding whether I should switch over to Linux. I am considering buying Linux on a Disk (LOAD) made by Cosmos Engineering (www.cosmoseng.com). I have been reading deeply in Red Hat Linux Unleashed in order to help me understand Linux and make a wise decision. Specs: NEC Pentium 166, MMX, 64 meg Ram. Win95 + Linux (hopefully) using LILO. QUESTIONS: 1 -- ROOT MODE SAFEGUARDS: Are there any safeguards (either command-line or by way of the GUI) against accidentally hitting the wrong key combination while in "root" mode? Does hitting such a combination of keys really result in destruction of your system (as opposed to "merely" requiring a reinstallation of Linux? Just consider that in Windows you're always in so called root mode. In Unix you can purposely limit your abilities by changing to a different user. If you can accidentally hit a combination of keys to wipe out your system, then you're pretty good. A much, much greater possibility is purposefully hitting a combination of keys and not understanding the full implications. Linux is not this jagged operating system waiting to catch you on something so it can wipe out everything. The command line is comparable to dos. 2 -- SHUTDOWN SAFEGUARDS: I am planning to buy a battery to protect me from power failures, etc. Makes a lot of sense. But what about human error? Inadvertently hitting the power button to shut down the system. I understand that fsck or File System Checker is the LInux equivalent of Scan Disk. Is it a sufficient safeguard against human error? I have read that Linux, unlike Windows, runs in "unprotected" mode. What exactly does that mean, from a practical point of view? Does that mean that the safeguards above do not apply or cannot really be applied to Linux? Who knows what that's supposed to mean. The processor is running in protected mode for both of them. Protected mode means that the processor will catch invalid memory accesses (and other checks as well) and the operating system will usually terminate the program so it can't cause any harm. Unfortunately, Windows' GUI bypasses this and so normal programs can lock it up quite often.
Linux-Misc Digest #372
Linux-Misc Digest #372, Volume #19Mon, 8 Mar 99 18:13:19 EST Contents: Re: SHMMAX for Linux (Joel R. Kallman) Re: Moving /home to /usr/home ("David Z. Maze") Re: Linux Safeguards for the Consumer? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: best offline newsreader? (Paul-S) Used WWW.DEJANEWS.COM ! (concord) Re: Cannot Remove LILO from MBR (Type your name here) DNS on Linux (Juan Guevara) Re: Advertisement: Domain name 'linux-software.net' for sale (Brian McCauley) Re: BEST HW For Linux NoteBook Project (Mathew A. Hennessy) Re: Fundamental Linux Install/Troubleshooting Training ("Randall E. Williamson") Re: Help: slrnpull (Dan Hogan) Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info ("Wilson Fletcher") Re: tar_cat (Konrad Mierendorff) 2.2.2 and parport (Ajit Krishnan) Re: Moving /home to /usr/home (Bill Unruh) xdm (Matt Cobley) Update of V.E.R.A. acronym list (Oliver Heidelbach) Re: best offline newsreader? (Matthias Warkus) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joel R. Kallman) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.databases.oracle.server,comp.databases.oracle.misc Subject: Re: SHMMAX for Linux Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 18:13:19 GMT On Mon, 08 Mar 1999 16:16:19 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello everyone, i'm trying to get a version of Oracle8 Server to work on my Dell PowerEdge 4300 running Redhat Linux 5.2. I recompiled the kernel so that SHMMAX, SHMMNI and all that memory thing required by Oracle. Anyway, is there a way that I can verify how much SHMMAX has allocated on the system? thanks khai Use the command "ipcs" to do this. If you want to look at just the shared memory that has been allocated, execute "ipcs -m", as in: oracle:/usr/local/oracle ipcs -m -- Shared Memory Segments keyshmid owner perms bytes nattchstatus 0xf936dfac 5505 oracle640 11747328 7 0x00280267 4610 root 644 1024000 Keep in mind that SHMMAX and SHMMNI are used to indicate maximums (max size of shared memory segment, max # of shared memory segments in system). Just by setting these values doesn't necessarily mean that this much shared memory will be allocated all at once. ---== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==-- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own Thanks! Joel Joel R. Kallman Oracle Service Industries Columbus, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oracle.com The statements and opinions expressed here are my own and do not necessarily represent those of Oracle Corporation. -- From: "David Z. Maze" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Moving /home to /usr/home Date: 08 Mar 1999 17:10:50 -0500 gbh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: gbh I'd like to move my /home directory to /usr/home and would like gbh to know the correct way to do it and what problems this may gbh create. gbh The reason I wanted to do this is because the partitions will gbh all reside on one disk that is not terribly large. I need to gbh create large temporary image files (500+ MB) occasionally, gbh and if I divide up the disk into partitions of several hundred gbh MBs each, none will be large enough to hold the images. There gbh seems to be a lot of wasted space left over in each partition. gbh Given my requirements how would you change this partitioning scheme? gbh gbh / 32 MB gbh /usr 200 MB gbh /usr/local 1000 MB gbh swap 64 MB gbh gbh With /var, /home, and /tmp linked to /usr/local? BTW I'm the gbh only user of the machine with a dialup connection to the Internet. Yeah, given those requirements that's not entirely unreasonable. Make sure (particularly for the new /tmp) that you have the same permissions as are on the original directory. gbh The question I have for you is, if /usr doesn't change then gbh why do you allocate more space than you do for /var, /home, gbh and /usr/local? It seems that once you install it, /usr would gbh not need any more than the few hundred MBs used for installation. It depends on how much stuff you have installed on your system. My root, /usr, /home, and /usr/local partitions are all about half full; /var could be smaller but downloads of Debian packages tend to wind up there. So I seem to have the right partitioning scheme for my system. :-) (That /var, /home, and /usr/local are on a less-than-reliable hard drive is another story...why doesn't anybody sell ~1GB hard drives anymore?) -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/ "Hey, Doug, do you mind if I push the Emergency Booth Self-Destruct Button?" "Oh, sure, Dave, whatever...you _do_ know what that does, right?" -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux Safeguards for the Consumer? Date: 8 Mar 1999 17:45:35 GMT In
Linux-Misc Digest #373
Linux-Misc Digest #373, Volume #19Mon, 8 Mar 99 20:13:08 EST Contents: Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info (Anthony Ord) Re: egcs 1.0.2-8 and exceptions - broken in this version? (ElfMff) Netscape problems under Linux (Al Wang) Embedded linux + X ? (=?iso-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien?= HUET) Re: best offline newsreader? (Stan Barr) Re: No-Win Modem Situation ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) RH 5.2 - Maxtor - LILO - MBR - failure to write ("Kirby James") Re: No-Win Modem Situation ("Rufus V. Smith") Re: Is this a winmodem? (Mircea) Glint broken under OpenLinux? (Steve Howie) Re: Using lynx... How? ("Atsushi Nakagawa") Re: Question on using 5.2: (David Kirkpatrick) Re: Startup... (David Kirkpatrick) Re: strange goings on... (David Kirkpatrick) Re: A LUG in Vermont (David W. Schuler) Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (Ian D Romanick) Great new Linux site (arty) Re: best offline newsreader? (Jason Clifford) Re: Adding users and changing passwords (in scripts) ("JACK") Re: No-Win Modem Situation ("Mike McCormac") Re: Memory regions and Linux (Mark Tranchant) New tool I've written... want it? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: Linux Wannabe: which distribution? ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Re: Uh-oh, I've got kernel panic ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Ord) Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware Subject: Re: Pentium III Boycott and survey info Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 18:35:08 GMT On Wed, 3 Mar 1999 00:52:31 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony D. Tribelli) wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony D. Tribelli) wrote: : Please do so. I don't believe you'll find an undocumented reset : instruction. You will probably find code that sets up BIOS to do a warm : boot and then asks the keyboard controller to reset the CPU. Later methods : used special I/O ports and multiple CPU faults. : : actually, what this "undocumented" reset is is simply diliberately : creating a triple fault. the cpu can catch a double fault and recover : but the cpu resets under a triple fault situation. the code placed at : the restart point is aware of what happened and gracefully recovers as : if just switching back to real mode. just like has been explained. Agreed, but it's not a simple 'instruction', and messing with the Interrupt Descriptor Table is not something a user level program can do. With IE "a part of the OS" and ActiveX components running amok within it, the "user level" is problem is academic. Got the nastiest feeling this is going to turn out like the f00f problem... Tony Regards Anthony -- = | And when our worlds | | They fall apart | | When the walls come tumbling in | | Though we may deserve it | | It will be worth it - Depeche Mode | = -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ElfMff) Subject: Re: egcs 1.0.2-8 and exceptions - broken in this version? Date: 8 Mar 1999 23:00:10 GMT I am not SURE that there is a specific problem with what you are doing but I ran into several problems with the egcs compiler. I went to egcs.cygnus.com, followed the direections and downloaded and installed the more recent version of egcs (I think it's 1.1 or so) and this solved some major problems. (unfortunately there are still some compilation errors) anyway, hope this helps in some way - good luck Mike -- From: Al Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Netscape problems under Linux Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 17:04:53 -0500 Hi all, I'm running Red Hat 5.1 on a PII-233. I'm experiencing two annoying little quirks with Netscape 4.07, and I'm just wondering if other people have seen the same thing: 1) Even though I'm running X-windows in 24-bit color, the Netscape buttons are all in black-and-white. Images appear to be displayed in their proper color depth, it's just the Netscape interface itself that's not getting any color. 2) If I start netscape with a local html file as an argument, like 'netscape index.html', it takes a LONG time to start up. We're talking 3-4 minutes. If I start up netscape with no arguments, it comes up very quickly(although for some reason, it still starts up with a Red Hat documentation screen, even though my preferences are for it to be set to a blank page) Any help on either of these issues? Would upgrading to 4.5 do the trick? -- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien?= HUET [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Embedded linux + X ? Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 18:50:31 +0100 LEM is a small linux based distrib with X Server 11Mo see, help, insult, contribute - http://perso.club-internet.fr/sebhuet/lem.html -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stan Barr) Subject: Re: best offline newsreader? Date: 8 Mar 1999