Linux-Misc Digest #300
Linux-Misc Digest #300, Volume #20 Sat, 22 May 99 05:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel (was: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system?)
(Christopher Browne)
Re: Word Perfect (jason)
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Brandon)
Re: problems with glibc2 (Paul Kimoto)
Re: New cable modem means I have a lot to learn (Johan Kullstam)
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (George MacDonald)
problems with glibc2 ("jota")
Re: Can't communicate through 2nd NIC (Harley Waagmeester)
Re: SO51 Installation fails!! HELP!! (Fred Kuipers)
Re: Linux killer for SuSe 6.1 (Juergen Heinzl)
Diald script (Jack Cheng)
Re: Linux or linux? (jane chav)
Re: Commercially speaking? (brian moore)
Re: Commercially speaking? ("Russ")
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel (was: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system?)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 06:21:34 GMT
On 21 May 1999 09:57:22 -0700, david parsons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Maybe. *BSD were delayed at the starting gate, and are probably
> about two years behind Linux right now -- I'm starting to see the
> occasional *BSD article in the computer gossip magazines, so
> barring an outbreak of Unix self-destructiveness we'll be seeing
> 10 million *BSD seats sometime around 2002.
Interesting claim...
1. I would tend to think that this would require that the *BSD community
have releases that start adding the "fuzzy dice" and k001 installation
systems that people have been building for Linux.
2. I would expect that this growth of population would largely result
from 'eating into' the Linux community.
This might lead to a "celebrity death match" with [Linus Torvalds and
Alan Cox] versus [John Dyson and Theo De Raadt] :-). I'd pay to see
this :-).
On a more serious note, I think some "friction" would result...
3. The results of a sizable migration of Linux users to *BSD, hopefully
along with some sizable movements in *BOTH* directions, would be an
increased interest in interoperability, *particularly* pointed at the
source code level.
I would think that to be an *extremely* good thing.
> About time, too; when there are 40 or 50 million Linux seats and
> 10 million *BSD seats this will make even the most rabid MS devotee
> perk up their ears and start thinking that this is a market they
> should pay attention to.
Indeed.
>
> david parsons \bi/ Of course by then you'll be seeing John Dyson
>\/ vs Richard Stallman in cage matches on pay per
> view.
I'd pay to see that...
--
We use Linux for all our mission-critical applications. Having the
source code means that we are not held hostage by anyone's support
department. (Russell Nelson, President of Crynwr Software)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Word Perfect
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 02:35:11 -0400
Jeff Busch wrote:
>
> I am running RH5.2. I have learned that while I am downloading the file
> (guilg00.gz), or other such files, that "Netscape" sometimes gunzips the
> file. OK so now all I have to do is "untar" the file. I have tried
> "tar -x guilg00.gz" and a few other combinations of switches and all
Do a: 'file guilg00.gz' to fund out what it is. If it is a gzip'ed file,
gunzip it, and keep reading. If it is a tar archive, then go ahead and
'tar xvf filename'. The key thing to extracting the tar file is the 'f'
parameter to tar: it says 'the next argument is the filename to operate upon'.
Hope this helps,
-jason
(to reply via email, make the appropriate substitution in my email address)
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Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 02:37:07 -0400
From: Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Christopher Browne wrote:
>
> On 20 May 1999 20:40:48 +0200, David Kastrup
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach) writes:
> >
> >> You may be less likely to die, net, if you have a gun, because most
> >> of the time, people "defending" themselves with guns don't fire them
> >> - most people aren't stupid enough to wait around to be shot at.
> >
> >So you would be of the opinion that a criminal armed with a gun
> >telling me to pass my wallet will, if I grasp at a gun as an answer,
> >turn his back on me and walk away?
> >
> >Sounds plausible.
>
> Scenario:
>
> - Criminal plans to go in, threaten target with gun, and get wallet.
>
> - Criminal discovers that the target is able to threaten force back.
>
> Fleeing in fear is a pretty g
Linux-Misc Digest #301
Linux-Misc Digest #301, Volume #20 Sat, 22 May 99 07:13:13 EDT
Contents:
Re: Informix IDS and Kernel 2.2.x (Scott)
dummy device for SuSE 6.1 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Dial-in terminal server... (Grand Poobah of PRAM)
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Brandon)
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Brandon)
Re: Mindcraft may be partly right about Apache ("Cameron Spitzer")
Re: RH 6, sndconfig, sound balster 16 PnP (Silviu D Minut)
Re: Commercially speaking? (Gareth Owen)
Re: best distribution (Bob Nelson)
Re: Linux or linux? (eloki)
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Brandon)
Re: NT the best web platform? (Jef Poskanzer)
Re: Can't communicate through 2nd NIC (FoT)
Re: WordPerfect 8 & Printers (Rod Smith)
Re: Linux or linux? (jane chav)
Re: Can't communicate through 2nd NIC (Harley Waagmeester)
Re: internet ("Craig A. Sharp")
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott)
Subject: Re: Informix IDS and Kernel 2.2.x
Date: 22 May 1999 04:10:06 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Michael Greulich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I know you've to apply a patch to kernel 2.0.36 if you want to run the
>Informix Dynamic Server, but I didn't found a patch for the kernel 2.2.x
>anywhere.
You need the large-fd capability. As for patch sources, it depends on
what distro you use.
Red Hat 6.0 has it built-in. SuSE 6.1 hasn't put a pertinent patch
on their site yet (they did for 6.0/2.0.36). Caldera and Debian
are mute on the subject (on their web sites, anyway). Red Hat
5.2 supplied a relevant patch set; you can get it from either Red
Hat's or Informix's web site.
It's also in the Alan Cox .ac1 patch set.
You might be able to use the ipcshm (IPC shared memory) protocol
even without the patch, but the soctcp (sockets) protocol will definitely
need the patch.
Also note: the current version of Informix OnLine and SE will gag on shadow
passwords on Linux in certain circumstances (e.g. CONNECT ... USER 'username')
where username != current username/uid will choke if the server
is on a machine with shadowed passwords -- it's a known bug.
--
Alan Denney yosemite at accesscom.com
The lyric for the Mozart piece ("Confutatis Maledictis", from his Requiem)
used in the TV ad for Microsoft's Internet Explorer translates to:
"The damned and the accursed are convicted to flames of hell."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: dummy device for SuSE 6.1
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 20:03:00 +0800
Hi,
I have just upgraded to SuSE 6.1. Everything went smoothly
except that
there is a small problem that is bugging me.
During bootup, the following message appears:
Setting up dummy0 device SIOCSIFADDR:Operation not supported by device
dummy0:unknown interface : Operation not supported by device
SIOCSI FNETMASK: Operation not supported by device
dummy0: unknown interface: Operation not supported by device
To avoid this error message, I tried to turn on the support of
dummy
device in the kernel and recompile. While the message did go away, I
couldn't connect to Internet anymore as I can't dial to the ISP at all.
Only when I turn off the dummy device support and recompile can I dial
up again.
Is there somewhere I can turn off this dummy without enabling it
in the
kernel?
Any advice is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
TH
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grand Poobah of PRAM)
Subject: Dial-in terminal server...
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 09:05:41 GMT
I'm interested in configuring my linux box (running RedHat 6) for
use as a dial-in terminal server. Can anyone point me to any howtos
on this-LDP doesn't seem to have anything on this.
--
"Somehow there's cosmic justice in the fact that movie makers can now spend
the gross national product of Romania on special effects and still wind
up with something that looks like a teenager's Web page."-Andrew O'Hehir
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Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 02:49:30 -0400
From: Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Christopher Browne wrote:
>
> On 20 May 1999 21:26:08 +0200, David Kastrup
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach) writes:
> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach) writes:
> >> >> You may be less likely to die, net, if you have a gun, because most
> >> >> of the time, people "defending" themselves with guns don't fire them
> >> >> - most people aren't stupid enough to wait around to be shot at.
> >>
> >> >So you would be of the opinion that a criminal armed with a gun
> >> >telling me to pass my wallet will, if I grasp at a gun as an answer,
> >> >turn his back on me and walk away?
> >>
> >> Not necessarily... But
Linux-Misc Digest #302
Linux-Misc Digest #302, Volume #20 Sat, 22 May 99 10:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: AutoInstall is for experts, not beginners!!! (Graham Murray)
H E L P PLS. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: a quick newbie question... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Getting Started with Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Loooking for bzip2-aware tar (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))
Re: Getting Started with Linux (Zeleng)
Re: Oracle8i for Linux / MySQL 3.22.22 RPMs specifically for Redhat 6.0 (Glibc-2.1 /
kernel 2.2) (Chris Mauritz)
Xf86 servers for linux ("Marc")
REAL newbie question ("Marc")
Re: Mindcraft may be partly right about Apache (Dave Seyster)
Re: NT the best web platform? (Christopher Browne)
Re: Getting rid of a RPM (pat)
Re: new kernel under RH6? (Ken Cormack)
Re: Word Perfect ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: problems with glibc2 (brian moore)
Re: Can't communicate through 2nd NIC (Ken Cormack)
RH 6 and LILO problem ("Tim Underwood")
Problem with Wu-Ftpd (Andrea Cerrito)
Re: Where is CPP in RH5.2 ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
From: Graham Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: AutoInstall is for experts, not beginners!!!
Date: 22 May 1999 09:03:04 +
In uk.comp.os.linux, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> "Nothing depends on them any more" isn't good enough; the sysadmin or
> users might have installed their own programs which depend on them,
> e.g. in /usr/local or their home directories, and this won't be
> recorded in package dependencies anywhere, so dselect (or whatever
> other package manager) couldn't know about it.
For libraries, could this not be done by running ldd on all of the
binaries and grepping the output for the library concerned? Then if
the library is found, then it is still (potentially[1]) being used
otherwise it could be a candidate for removal.
[1] It could be referenced only another library which is also a
removal candidate.
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ICQ 10305586
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: H E L P PLS.
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 11:12:26 GMT
Hello ALL !
Does anybody knew how to lock the keybord in LINUX ...
Is there a hot-key to lock / unlock keybord ?
Thank you
Eugene...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: a quick newbie question...
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 04:33:00 GMT
In article <7i4ihf$eab$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm getting ready to take the plunge into the fellowship of Linux users
...
>I have distributions of Debian GNU/Linux 2.1, Mandrake Linux 5.3 and
>Linux Pro 5.4 all on CD-Rom. I'll be installing Linux on my 2nd physical
>drive and Win95 will reside on my 1st physical (boot) drive. I'll be
...
A good idea to use a second hard drive instead of a 2nd partition
on the same hard drive, simpler and safer.
>My question is this: Of the three distributions I have on hand, which
>would be the least stressful to install and get up and running? Or
>should I use a different distribution than what I have?
..
This is a trollish kind of question but I assume you don't mean it
to be. Opinions will vary. With that caveat, I'll say that the Mandrake
should be less stressful than the Debian. I don't have any experience
with the Linux Pro. I worked with Unix before Linux came along, and I
started out with a Slackware distribution, and I still find myself coming
back to Slackware after trying others, but that's me. Maybe once you've
gotten Mandrake up and running and gotten a little comfortable with it,
you'll want to take a crack at the others. Debian has this dselect thing
that takes a little getting used to. Mandrake is a lot like redhat. The
CD that I have boots up into a desktop that I think is KDE. I find that I
have more trouble with these 'easy to use' distributions when I try to do
anything remotely hard. I was never able to figure out how to get a printer
going or good ppp access with the redhats I tried for instance. (I take that
back, I did get redhat to connect to an IP once by accident, but could never
figure out later what incantation actually worked.) I remember one time
when I was using Debian (which has some nice things about it, I still take
a crack at Debian now and then), I wanted to upgrade ghostscript with a
version that I downloaded that had support for my printer, and Mother Hen
Debian wouldn't let me install all these things that depended on ghostscript
because I wasn't selecting their ghostscript and their database didn't show
me as having a ghostscript.
There were supposed to be ways to override that but I couldn't get
it to work. Some Debian advocate will no doubt say I should have just read
the documentation more carefully or something, so maybe I'm adding some flame
bait to this post myself.
--
Praeterea censeo Micromolle non esse utendum.
("Moreover, I maintain that Microsoft should not be used." A toned
Linux-Misc Digest #303
Linux-Misc Digest #303, Volume #20 Sat, 22 May 99 12:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: Display X on TV? (Peter Caffin)
Re: dummy device for SuSE 6.1 (Jens Weber)
Re: Registry in Linux ??? (Nix)
Re: SETI comparisons (Fred Kuipers)
Re: Can't communicate through 2nd NIC ("Steve Snyder")
Re: Can't communicate through 2nd NIC ("Steve Snyder")
Re: How to create *.o files (Mircea)
Help: System auto-reboot!!! (hkchan)
Re: Xf86 servers for linux ("AV")
Re: SCSI Question ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Kernel 2.2.3 mystery (Alan Fried)
Re: NT the best web platform? (Miguel Cruz)
Re: Linux on Dual Pentium-II machines ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
any good avi-viewer or editor for linux ? (Sebastian Koball)
Re: Kernel 2.2.3 mystery (Unclebob)
Hi, am having trouble with cpio-2.4.2 on S.u.S.E. 6.0 (Leif Erlingsson)
From: Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Display X on TV?
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 06:07:52 +0800
Adam C. Emerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The display quality won't be so hot, TVs are low-resolution.
I think he knows that the resolution limitations are 640x480 on a PAL set
and 640x440 on NTSC. This is in the PSC1106 Mini-HOWTO. His question
seemed more about display quality (ie, fuzziness and flicker) ;).
The fuzziness really depends on the size and quality of your TV set. Older
colour sets give the worst results (anything more than 80x43 text
resolution is illegible). New colour sets are okay up to 80x50. Black &
White sets and RGB monitors provide legible results at 80x60 text res.
Flicker is acceptable and only noticable if you're looking especially for
it :). Results re flicker & fuzziness in X are the same as when using
SVGATextMode (ie, the app that lets you tweak that text mode).
I might add that bit about the flicker and fuzziness to the the
Mini-HOWTO as I don't think I mentioned it there.
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From: Jens Weber <~~~weber~~~@~~~mathematik~~~.uni~~~-marburg~~~.de>
Subject: Re: dummy device for SuSE 6.1
Date: 22 May 1999 13:55:22 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I tried to turn on the support of dummy
> device in the kernel and recompile. While the message did go away, I
> couldn't connect to Internet anymore as I can't dial to the ISP at all.
> Only when I turn off the dummy device support and recompile can I dial
> up again.
>
> Is there somewhere I can turn off this dummy without enabling it
> in the
> kernel?
in rc.config is an option/variable SETUPDUMMYDEV.
try to set it to "no". (works with yast...
Administration-->edit config file (or so))
Hope this will work
Jens
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From: Nix <$}xinix{$@esperi.demon.co.uk>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Registry in Linux ???
Date: 22 May 1999 09:30:52 +0100
"Selious" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> But can be the difference between linux and LINUX !!
Er, no, the only difference between linux and LINUX is capitalisation.
HTH.
--
`As promised, here's the patch to do this. Not only is it good (it
compiles), but it is perfect (it boots). Up 9 minutes so far without
problems.' --- Richard Gooch on linux-kernel
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From: Fred Kuipers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SETI comparisons
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 15:13:02 GMT
Actually, they are consistent with my results... until I turned off the
graphic display on the windows machine. After that, the windows machine
started to blow the doors off of my linux box (see earlier post for the
config and stats). When I started the first block, I started both computers
within 5 minutes of each other. When the linux box reached 92 % it had a
20% lead on the windows machine. At that point I turned off the display.
The windows machine ended up finishing 10 minutes after the linux box
completed its block.
So, I heard some discussion over the fact that the hold up could be the
graphics engine in Windows.. I'm starting to think that is true...
FJK
Latrell Sprewell wrote:
> In article <37437264$0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Carl Hilinski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > For those of you who don't know, you can participate in the Search for
> > Extraterrestrial Intelligence . What you get is a 107-second chunk of
> > space chatter for your computer to chomp on while it's not working for
> > you.
> >
> > It's quite an eye-opener as related to processors and computing power.
> > My 350PII with 64mb took 43 hours to work on this running Win98. My
> > Linux box, running a Cyrix 233MMX with 64mb, took only 23 hours to do
> > its chunk. I'm curious if anyone else is running this and what
Linux-Misc Digest #304
Linux-Misc Digest #304, Volume #20 Sat, 22 May 99 14:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: Can't communicate through 2nd NIC ("Steve Snyder")
Re: starting a new shell... ("Anders Gulden Olstad")
"can't handle reloc type" -- huh? (Sean McAfee)
Re: Linux or linux? (Brodo)
Re: SETI comparisons (Fred Kuipers)
Re: NT the best web platform? (John Hascall)
Accessing ext2fs in Win98? ("Anders Rundegren")
Re: Can't communicate through 2nd NIC ("Steve Snyder")
How to create *.o files ("Vincent Van Thorre")
Mounting & creating an ISO file ("UNiDoG")
Re: SETI comparisons (Richard Petty)
Re: Root Password lost... ("Moribund")
Linux and Thai? ("Christopher R. Carlen")
Re: I broke KDE: Desktop blank, programs won't run ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Can't communicate through 2nd NIC ("Tony")
Re: I broke KDE: Desktop blank, programs won't run (Melchior FRANZ)
Re: Can't communicate through 2nd NIC ("Tony")
moving directories ("Deven Verma")
Re: I broke KDE: Desktop blank, programs won't run ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Ishmail no longer being developed - source code available (albi)
Re: I broke KDE: Desktop blank, programs won't run ("Prasanth Kumar")
From: "Steve Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Can't communicate through 2nd NIC
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 10:58:53 -0400 (EST)
Reply-To: "Steve Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Fri, 21 May 1999 23:53:51 -0700, Harley Waagmeester wrote:
>Steve Snyder wrote:
[snip]
>IPADDR="24.4.162.173"<---
>
>You have assigned your internet /cable modem address to your eth1 network card,
>that won't work.
>Give your eth1 card a local ip like you have for the eth0 card.
>I'll give a tough sketch of what needs to happen:
>if you give eth1 an ip address of 192.168.0.13,
>Then you need :
>route add 24.4.162.173 gw 192.168.0.13
>route add default gw 24.4.162.173
>
>I'm probably wrong about the syntax
>Just give the eth1 a local ip address and leave the gateway address as
>24.4.162.173,
>and maybe the startup scripts will set the default route up correctly
>
>I hope someone explains this better, or gives the right numbers to plug into the
>config files :))
>
>The point is that you want a local ip for the eth1 interface card and use that as
>the gateway out
>of the machine, and the default route is a "logical route" that flows through the
>hardware route.
>
>The 24.4.162.173 is the address of the cable modem device
I followed your advice about, but I'm still seeing the same ping/telnet
behavior. This is my updated config:
# cat /etc/sysconfig/network
NETWORKING=yes
FORWARD_IPV4=yes
HOSTNAME="corona.snydernet.lan"
DOMAINNAME=snydernet.lan
GATEWAY=24.4.162.173
GATEWAYDEV=eth1
# /sbin/ifconfig -a
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:10:4B:9A:82:E5
inet addr:192.168.0.12 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:531 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:357 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
Interrupt:11 Base address:0xe400
eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:60:97:C8:01:C8
inet addr:192.168.0.18 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:2 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:354 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
Interrupt:10 Base address:0xe800
# netstat -nr
===
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface
192.168.0.120.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 0 0 eth0
24.4.162.173192.168.0.18255.255.255.255 UGH 0 0 0 eth1
192.168.0.180.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 0 0 eth1
192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1
127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo
0.0.0.0 24.4.162.1730.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 eth1
As before, the attempt to ping @Home's DNS (IP = 24.4.162.33) just hangs.
Attempting to telnet to the same IP address still gets me this message:
"Unable to connect to remote host: N
Linux-Misc Digest #305
Linux-Misc Digest #305, Volume #20 Sat, 22 May 99 16:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: Can't communicate through 2nd NIC ("Steve Snyder")
Re: REAL newbie question (Stefan Retta)
modules.dep missing (Michael V Strelick)
autobackup with tar and RCS ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
weird DHCP problems (Itay Kishon)
Rebuilding SRPMs ("Thomas Svenson")
Re: How many operating systems can i have on a linux pc? (Dr Vincent C Jones PE)
Re: Commercially speaking?
Re: prevent detection of 2nd HD ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: prevent detection of 2nd HD ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
[?] lint for Linux (Francisco Cribari)
wine ? (James Chang)
Re: Adding fonts to Wordperfect 8 ("Gero H. Marten")
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom ("Joshua E. Rodd")
AVI Screen Capture ("Athan")
Re: Linux Textbook? ("Joshua E. Rodd")
jadetex and Redhat 6.0 (Arun Sharma)
Re: SETI comparisons ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Tools under Linus (I Ching Hsueh)
Re: NT the best web platform? ("Kristian Holdich")
Re: WordPerfect gunzip ("Gero H. Marten")
Re: car mp3 player (Jim Richardson)
From: "Steve Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Can't communicate through 2nd NIC
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 12:04:14 -0400 (EST)
Reply-To: "Steve Snyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Fri, 21 May 1999 23:53:51 -0700, Harley Waagmeester wrote:
>IPADDR="24.4.162.173"<---
>
>You have assigned your internet /cable modem address to your eth1 network card,
>that won't work.
>Give your eth1 card a local ip like you have for the eth0 card.
>I'll give a tough sketch of what needs to happen:
>if you give eth1 an ip address of 192.168.0.13,
>Then you need :
>route add 24.4.162.173 gw 192.168.0.13
>route add default gw 24.4.162.173
>
>I'm probably wrong about the syntax
>Just give the eth1 a local ip address and leave the gateway address as
>24.4.162.173,
>and maybe the startup scripts will set the default route up correctly
>
>I hope someone explains this better, or gives the right numbers to plug into the
>config files :))
>
>The point is that you want a local ip for the eth1 interface card and use that as
>the gateway out
>of the machine, and the default route is a "logical route" that flows through the
>hardware route.
>
>The 24.4.162.173 is the address of the cable modem device
More info:
In my last message I wrote that I changed my config as recommended above,
but saw no difference in behavior (ping/telnet still didn't work.) However
there *is* a difference in the output of tcpdump.
Output with previous config:
# /usr/sbin/tcpdump -i eth1
tcpdump: listening on eth1
15:17:58.005410 arp who-has 128.63.2.53 tell ct52636-a
15:17:58.005529 arp who-has 128.9.0.107 tell ct52636-a
15:17:58.008410 arp who-has 198.41.0.4 tell ct52636-a
15:17:58.026120 arp who-has 128.63.2.53 tell 24.4.162.129
15:17:58.035820 arp who-has 128.9.0.107 tell 24.4.162.129
15:17:58.045582 arp who-has 198.41.0.4 tell 24.4.162.129
15:17:59.005240 arp who-has 198.41.0.4 tell ct52636-a
15:17:59.005254 arp who-has 128.9.0.107 tell ct52636-a
15:17:59.005275 arp who-has 128.63.2.53 tell ct52636-a
15:17:59.025473 arp who-has 198.41.0.4 tell 24.4.162.129
15:17:59.036064 arp who-has 128.9.0.107 tell 24.4.162.129
15:17:59.045111 arp who-has 128.63.2.53 tell 24.4.162.129
15:18:00.005232 arp who-has 128.63.2.53 tell ct52636-a
15:18:00.005242 arp who-has 128.9.0.107 tell ct52636-a
15:18:00.005264 arp who-has 198.41.0.4 tell ct52636-a
15:18:00.027275 arp who-has 128.63.2.53 tell 24.4.162.129
15:18:00.038154 arp who-has 128.9.0.107 tell 24.4.162.129
15:18:00.045851 arp who-has 198.41.0.4 tell 24.4.162.129
15:18:02.005334 arp who-has 128.9.0.107 tell ct52636-a
20 packets received by filter
0 packets dropped by kernel
With new configuration:
===
# /usr/sbin/tcpdump -i eth1
tcpdump: listening on eth1
11:50:49.001747 arp who-has 24.4.162.173 tell ct52636-a
11:50:50.001746 arp who-has 24.4.162.173 tell ct52636-a
11:50:53.001844 arp who-has 24.4.162.173 tell ct52636-a
11:50:54.001733 arp who-has 24.4.162.173 tell ct52636-a
11:50:55.001739 arp who-has 24.4.162.173 tell ct52636-a
11:50:56.001900 arp who-has 24.4.162.173 tell ct52636-a
11:50:57.001739 arp who-has 24.4.162.173 tell ct52636-a
11:50:58.001734 arp who-has 24.4.162.173 tell ct52636-a
11:50:59.021801 arp who-has 24.4.162.173 tell ct52636-a
11:51:00.021729 arp who-has 24.4.162.173 tell ct52636-a
11:51:01.021733 arp who-has 24.4.162.173 tell ct52636-a
11:51:04.001822 arp who-has 24.4.162.173 tell ct52636-a
11:51:05.001742 arp who-has 24.4.162.173 tell ct52636-a
11:51:06.001733 arp who-has 24.4.162.173 tell ct52636-a
11:51:07.381810 arp who-has 24.4.162.173 tell ct52636-a
11:51:08.381734 arp who-has 24.4.162.173 tell ct52636-a
11:51:09.381737 arp who-h
Linux-Misc Digest #306
Linux-Misc Digest #306, Volume #20 Sat, 22 May 99 18:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: Ken Thompson on Linux (Stephen E. Halpin)
3c509b croaked on 2.2.9 (root)
Re: Linux's Last Chance (Iain Georgeson)
WordPerfect & Printers (John Hong)
Re: [?] lint for Linux ("T.E.Dickey")
Re: NT the best web platform? (Anthony Ord)
Re: Netscape 4.60 evaluation (Herwig Bogaert)
Re: my machine name (Frank Hahn)
Kernel-Patches (Michael)
The World Wide Expo 7633 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Netscape locks up when I first start it up (Frank Hahn)
Re: Binary of XFree86 3.3.3.1 (Herwig Bogaert)
Re: Linux on Dual Pentium-II machines ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Test (Amegatek)
Configuration for high-spec NFS server (Nick Williams)
Re: Dial-in terminal server... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Root Password lost... (NF Stevens)
Linux hangs intermittently during boot (David Wake)
Sound Problems: sb:dsp reset failed (Bill Damon)
Signal 11 -> GCC on Redhat 6.0... ~< ("FTP server")
Re: FTP with Resume feature? (Guillermo Labatte)
Re: Netscape 4.60 evaluation (Andrew Robinson)
Re: telnet and script ("Kurt C. Anderson")
Re: Kernel-Patches (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: NT the best web platform? (Christopher Browne)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen E. Halpin)
Subject: Re: Ken Thompson on Linux
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 19:34:43 GMT
On Wed, 19 May 1999 03:01:42 -0230, Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<>
>And let's not forget that languages like C, C++, Fortran, Tcl/Tk,
^^^
>
>etc... as well as Apache, were all developed on Unix/Linux.
The first work on FORTRAN began at IBM in 1954, nearly 15 years before
work began in earnest on UNIX.
<>
-Steve
--
From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: 3c509b croaked on 2.2.9
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 16:07:06 -0400
My 3c509b (eth0) stopped working when I upgraded to 2.2.9. When I
recompile it as a module, and run insmod 3c509.o, I get a warning:
init_module: Device or resource busy
I get the same warnings when I try to activate the interface on startup.
Funny, it did seem to work under 2.2.7, yet I cannot find anything in the
change log to indicate how or why this might have become broken. So, I am
reluctantly preparing to downgrade back to 2.2.7 and see if this fixes the
problem.
I have disabled PNP in the bios, so that shouldn't be causing any
problems. Building it as an integral part of the kernel or as a module
seems to make no difference. Is there a hidden lock file somewhere? Did
some device number move?
--
From: Iain Georgeson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux's Last Chance
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 20:42:23 +0100
In article <7i3ddg$iu8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mr S A Penny
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>In article ,
> Iain Georgeson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve D. Perkins
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
Well, despite being won over by the sheer spangliness of Gnome...
>>>Out of curiosity, what does "spangliness" mean?!?
>>At the risk of being percieved as unhelpful: "RTFJF".
>erm, what does RTFJF mean? I know RTFM but I can't think what a JF might be...
[A gazillion replies]
And as an encore - how many Usenet posters does it take to change a
light-bulb...? ;)
Iain, careering wildly off topic.
--
The Linux kernel has actually not changed at all since January, '94. Linus
just increments "version.c" once every 48 hours and unleashes the "change"
on an unsuspecting Internet, bringing FTP servers to their knees.
-- Seen on linux-kernel
--
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hong)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: WordPerfect & Printers
Date: 22 May 1999 19:48:06 GMT
I plucked this out of linux.corel.com today in their support FAQ
for WP8 for Linux regarding their printer drivers...
Q. Where can I get a printer driver for my printer that will work
properly with Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux?
A. You can search for latest Corel WordPerfect printer drivers on
Corel format (they have a .EXE extension; however, you can decompress them
using InfoZip). You however, you will need to make a few changes
before they correct format for Linux. Convert them to lowercase (they
case) and change the extension so that it has .us before the .all.
For example, WP60DM01.ALL would become wp60dm01.us.all
Hope this helps anyone using WP8 for Linux that are having any
problems with it...
--
From: "T.E.Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [?] lint for Linux
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 19:45:33 GMT
Francisco Cribari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a version of lint for Linux? (I am using Red Hat Linux
> 6.0).
Linux-Misc Digest #307
Linux-Misc Digest #307, Volume #20 Sat, 22 May 99 21:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Sound card: hardware or software problem? (Kelly Ann Smith)
newbie rh5.1 (Derek)
Re: newbie rh5.1 (garv)
Re: Linux's Last Chance (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: Signal 11 -> GCC on Redhat 6.0... ~< (Wayne Kovsky)
Re: Accessing ext2fs in Win98? ("Athan")
Re: [?] lint for Linux (Scott Smith)
Re: newbie rh5.1 (Derek)
Hercules Terminator + Linux (chris)
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Chris Wilson)
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Chris Wilson)
Re: Linux on Dual Pentium-II machines (Swietanowski Artur)
Re: Accessing ext2fs in Win98? ("Athan")
Re: newbie rh5.1 (Ian Hay)
Re: New dumb question (gus)
Re: DVD movies on Linux ? (Jim McCusker)
Re: Netscape java40.jar problems (Chris Menzel)
Re: 'Find'. what a strange command (Mark Forsyth)
Re: Commercially speaking? (Richard Steiner)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kelly Ann Smith)
Crossposted-To:
linux.dev.sound,comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.dev.laptop,linux.dev.newbie,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.portable,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Sound card: hardware or software problem?
Date: 22 May 1999 21:28:55 GMT
I was just trying to configure my soundcard under linux, and I
had a weird problem.
I ran sndconfig (after I found out what irq's etc to use). There were
lots of io addresses to set: mss_io and mpu_io, and I wasn't exactly
sure which these were supposed to correspond to, since there were quite
a few listed when I checked this under Windows.
I ended up using 0x530 for mss_io and 0x330 for mpu_io, since I had
seen somebody use these settings for configuring the same machine as
I have. (They had this info on a web page.)
But when the sndconfig program asked me if I could hear the sound, I
heard this loud high tone. I figured that was the sound, but of
course it wasn't. The sound only went away when I turned the machine
off (not even shutdown -r would turn it off). I rebooted into
Windows, and I could hear the same incredibly annoying sound when the
volume was turned all the way up, but not when it was at medium or low
level.
I checked the Linux settings again; I'm not sure which setting my io
(not my mss_io or mpu_io, but just my io) should be at; I wasn't
given a choice by sndconfig, and my resulting setting (after looking
at the /etc/conf.modules file) was 0x370; the web page I looked at
had 0x220 for this value.
I tried checking the sound system (in Linux) by cat-ing a file to
/dev/audio. I can hear the sound, but it's REALLY quiet.
I even edited the /etc/conf.modules file and tried out both 0x370 and
0x220 for the 'io' parameter, and I still can't hear much.
In Windows, I can hear sound perfectly (as a reasonable volume) except
I also hear the high feedback-y like tone when my volume is turned up high.
So my current situation is that I'm not sure if the sound works under
Linux, since it's VERY hard to hear something as quiet as this.
Windows sound seems to work, except for the feedback at high volumes.
Some relevant stats: I have a dual-boot (win98, redhat 5.2),
laptop (Gateway 9100). The soundcard is listed in sndconfig, and
it's a Yamaha OPL3SAx.
My current /etc/conf.modules file is:
alias sound opl3sa2
alias midi opl3
options opl3 io=0x388
options opl3sa2 io=0x370 mss_io-0x530 irq=9 dma=0,1 mpu_io-0x330
I'm not sure if I blew my soundcard or if this is purely a software
problem; I appreciate any help.
Thanks,
Kelly
--
From: Derek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: newbie rh5.1
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 21:31:46 +
I need to download a file that is a .i386.rpm through netscape and it
will not save to disk but just open the file itself. How do you get
everything to recognize the different file type to download?
thanks for any help
Derek
--
From: garv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newbie rh5.1
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 15:14:32 -0700
Derek wrote:
> I need to download a file that is a .i386.rpm through netscape and it
> will not save to disk but just open the file itself. How do you get
> everything to recognize the different file type to download?
> thanks for any help
> Derek
In Netscape | Preferences | Applications|
you have one line that reads download to disk.
Add .rpm to the list.
--
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux's Last Chance
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 21:57:50 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Iain Georgeson wrote:
>In article <7i3ddg$iu8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mr S A Penny
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>In article ,
>> Iain Georgeson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve D. Perkins
>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> Well, despite being won over by the sheer spangliness of Gnome...
Out of curiosity, what does "spanglines
