Linux-Misc Digest #352

2000-11-20 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #352, Volume #26   Mon, 20 Nov 00 04:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: network slow in linux, fast in win... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Is this hard drive dead? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Bloatware ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Disk Druid on RH7.0 (Troutman)
  Re: How should I install Linux and Win2K (dual boot) (Rod Smith)
  Re: Embedded linux newgroup ("Jan Schaumann")
  Re: Undelete a file in Linux (Jason)
  Write to floppy from Redhat 6.0 ("Flej Ling")
  Re: Bloatware (John Hasler)
  How can I dual-boot between Red Hat and SuSE distributions? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Set environment variable in bsh script and effect another program. ("linux_db")
  library (preprepre)
  Re: Write to floppy from Redhat 6.0
  Which Linux to try? (Jim Cleary)
  Re: Embedded linux newgroup (Paul Ahlquist)
  Re: usenet posting (Pete Zaitcev)
  Re: Write to floppy from Redhat 6.0
  Re: Which Linux to try? (Stanislaw Flatto)
  Re: Adding GNOME to RH7.0 Server installation ("Justin R. Smith")
  Re: Embedded linux newgroup (Wolfgang Denk)
  Re: running C++ script on linux not successful (Wayne Pollock)
  Re: file is not found - but I know it exists! ("Kilian A. Foth")
  question about vim ("Dan Allen")
  Re: Undelete a file in Linux (Eric)
  Re: Set environment variable in bsh script and effect another program. (Eric)
  Re: How could I run a perl script by crontab? (fred smith)
  Re: RedHat 7 eth0 module problems (fred smith)
  Re: file is not found - but I know it exists! (Eric)
  Re: Samba error login win98 ("Jian Guo")
  Re: Mount ufs (Solaris) Hard Disk on Storm Linux 2000 Server ("news.telus.net")
  Re: file is not found - but I know it exists! (Eric)
  gnome_login_check ("CDM")



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: network slow in linux, fast in win...
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 11:00:47 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: I got the same strange slow Linux behaviour, and I did a couple of
: measurements, using FTP on 3 differents machine on a small LAN: one
: R6000/AIX box, one laptop/WinNt, one standard Linux desktop.

[snip]

: Has anybody  an explanation (even poor ...) for that strange behaviour?

Hmm... No... But... :-)
Since upgrading all machines on my home lan (4) to the 2.2 kernel 
series I have problems with a laptop using an DLINK 620 pocket 
adapter.

Very slow (about 10% of what it used to be) with ftp and html.

The realy strange thing with it is; if I use an *old* ftp client
taken from 2.0 series of kernel ftp is fast again.

Pings are fine too. There are no dropped packets or any kind of
networking errors. It's just dead slow. :-(

The problem is only with said laptop. All other machines (which use
noname ne2000 cards) are *faster* with the new kernel.

The laptop is fast with older kernels and NT.
I have played with all networking parameters I could think off, but no
improvement.

If somebody has an idea how to fix it, please let me know.

Regards,
Friedhelm

-- 
Microsoft is NOT the answer. Microsoft is the Question.
The answer is: "NO!"
===
Friedhelm Mehnert,  Berliner Allee 42,  22850 Norderstedt,  Germany
phone + fax: +49-40-5236562email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
===


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Is this hard drive dead?
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 11:07:10 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

: OK, I'll take it out on the porch and
: hit it with a 2x4 :-)

Oh no... :-)

But, before you throw it away:

Open it up and see if you can see the problem there.

Despite of what all experts say, I have once opened up a drive,
and found that the dust filter had become loose and was flying
around inside. I glewed it back in place and closed the drive.
After now nearly two years, it is still working!

Regards,
Friedhelm

-- 
Microsoft is NOT the answer. Microsoft is the Question.
The answer is: "NO!"
===
Friedhelm Mehnert,  Berliner Allee 42,  22850 Norderstedt,  Germany
phone + fax: +49-40-5236562email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
===


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Bloatware
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 11:11:32 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Some of the SuSE dependencies are a little bogus as well, so you could
: remove for example SaX, fvwm and XF86Setup. X does NOT need these, even
: though the suse rpms have been built in such a way as to flag them as
: dependencies.

Yes, and Sax needs Tk/Tcl, but it's *not* in the dependencies.

So much for the glories of RPM. :-(

Regards,
Friedhelm

-- 
Microsoft is NOT the answer. Microsoft is the Question.
The answer is: "NO!"
===
Friedhelm 

Linux-Misc Digest #353

2000-11-20 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #353, Volume #26   Mon, 20 Nov 00 07:13:01 EST

Contents:
  Re: A stronger kill (Villy Kruse)
  simple shell script variable question ("Dan Allen")
  Re: Samba error login win98 ("Dan Allen")
  Re: Which Linux to try? ("Martin Schmidt")
  Re: two mice with linux? ("Dan Allen")
  Re: simple shell script variable question (Eric)
  Re: simple shell script variable question ("Dan Allen")
  Re: gnome_login_check ("CDM")
  Re: file is not found - but I know it exists! (Paul Robertson)
  Re: file is not found - but I know it exists! (Eric)
  old modules not found (Carsten Huettl)
  mpg123 + NTFS (Anton Osennikov)
  Re: Embedded linux newgroup (M. Buchenrieder)
  Re: Hacked? Is that the reason for my new mail problems? (M. Buchenrieder)
  Re: Bloatware ("Tim Banner")
  how can i check port? (Immortal Love)
  Re: MP3 decoder-encoder (Frank Elsner)
  pam access.so ("Umberto Nicoletti")
  Re: Real Difference Between Server and Workstation under RH7.0? (Robert Heller)
  Re: Is this hard drive dead? (LuisMiguel Figueiredo)
  Re: mpg123 + NTFS (LuisMiguel Figueiredo)



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: A stronger kill
Date: 20 Nov 2000 09:17:58 GMT

On Sat, 18 Nov 2000 16:24:22 +,
 Daniel Barron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink) wrote:

 There must be a better way of killing something that won't go away?
 
 I assume you've used "kill -9 pid"?

Will do.  Thanks to you and all the others.  Also thanks for pointing out
that I should have read the man page.

I just looked at it and taking a closer look shows this command.




Note that if a program is supposed to do some cleanup when killed that cleanup
won't happen if you kill -9.  Therefore don't make kill -9 your standard
way of killing things.  Also if you kill your login shell do use kill -1,
which is the signal the shell expect when the terminal is hung up by a modem.


Villy

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From: "Dan Allen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: simple shell script variable question
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 01:19:41 +0800

Okay, when I first run this script, I want to check who the user is that
is running without asking them.  Thus, I want to use the output from
whoami
So when I first wrote my script I did

i=whoami

However, then i is just assigned the word "whoami" and not the user.  How
to you get the output of a small binary like that to write to a
variable??
I am sure this must be possible.
Please e-mail your response to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
so I am sure to get it.

thanks,

Dan

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From: "Dan Allen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: Samba error login win98
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 01:24:16 +0800

HOWEVER  Key think here is that the user also has a samba password.
It is like when you share with windows 2000, and you have to be a user on
the computer to be able to access the computer's shares.  In this case
how, the person does not have to be a user, but they do need to have a
samba passsword.  The easiest way to do this is to run in netscape,

http://localhost:901/
(make sure to login at the prompt as root)
and then go to the password section and add yourself and whoever else you
want to share.  Make their username and password the same as in windows
98.  Then, make sure that you are using encrypted passwords.

Dan


In article 8vap0m$bua$[EMAIL PROTECTED], "Jian Guo"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 news:8u7me4$cdb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 hello i need help with my samba setup. I setup my samba server on a
 redhat 6.2 . it runs fine i could run the client and everything. where
 i'm having trouble is the network password for sharing a folder.

 here's a sample of my smb.conf file

 [global]
 workgroup = cs server string = localhost   # computer name securtiy =
 SHARE

 [setup] # folder that i see in network neigh win98
 comment = progrme folders path = /usr/local/src/users  # where files
 are located valid users = system12 # user that has access for files
 read list = yes write list = yes create mask = 0777 # i guess this is
 the permission   for the folder right


 so know i go to the win98 machine reboot , and login as "system12" with
 the password that i issud when creating the user name in my linux box.

 after that i go to network neigh click on "localhost" i see the folder
 called "setup" double click on it then it asked me for the password

 i type if in then i get this error .

 "The password is incorrect. Try again"

 so can someone tell me what the hell i'm doing wrong.

 Thank you


 Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
 the password should be encrypted in the smb.conf files.
 


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From: "Martin Schmidt" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Which Linux to try?
Date: Mon, 

Linux-Misc Digest #354

2000-11-20 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #354, Volume #26   Mon, 20 Nov 00 09:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: library (LuisMiguel Figueiredo)
  Re: How can I dual-boot between Red Hat and SuSE distributions? (LuisMiguel 
Figueiredo)
  Re: Write to floppy from Redhat 6.0 (LuisMiguel Figueiredo)
  Re: question about vim (Hal Burgiss)
  Re: file is not found - but I know it exists! (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: Hacked?  Is that the reason for my new mail problems? (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: HELP: Netscape Download file location. (Jean-David Beyer)
  New Mp3 Site ("James Wilson")
  Re: Undelete a file in Linux (Jean-David Beyer)
  please read (Yechuri)
  Re: how can i check port? (r1ckey)
  Re: Just can't get mail working again... (LONG) (Jean-David Beyer)
  Slackware, Soundcards and kernel matters... (Sebastian Palm)
  Re: HELP: Netscape Download file location. (Leonard Evens)
  Re: Disk Druid on RH7.0 (Leonard Evens)
  ufs rw filesystem driver? ("dpc")



From: LuisMiguel Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: library
Date: 20 Nov 2000 12:09:00 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (preprepre) wrote in
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 

i'm very new to linux and is currently running mandrake 7.2. in some c 
source files the person included some librarys like netinet/protocols.h 
but i can't find them under my /usr/includes/netinet. also, i found 
netinet/udp.h in my netinet directory but not netinet/ip_udp.h as found
in the codes. where can i get those libraries?

try:

 # find /usr/include/ * -name protocols.h

this will tell you where they are located.

Good luck,


++
|elmig   |
|http://www.alunos.ipb.pt/~ee3931|
|Luis.Figueiredo AT pt.bosch.com |
++

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From: LuisMiguel Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How can I dual-boot between Red Hat and SuSE distributions?
Date: 20 Nov 2000 12:10:43 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in 3a18bab4.9309023@news-server:


Hi. I'd like to install Red Hat 6.2 and SuSE Pro 7.0 on a 30 GB hard
drive. How do I set up a dual-booting system? All the articles I've
read so far assume I'm dual-booting between DOS/Windows and Linux. Any
help would be greatly appreciated. Please include as much detail as
possible.

Thanks

Zed



humm perhaps each one on a different partition and add them to lilo. 
That should be pretty easy. I think...

Good luck,
 
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|elmig   |
|http://www.alunos.ipb.pt/~ee3931|
|Luis.Figueiredo AT pt.bosch.com |
++

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From: LuisMiguel Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Write to floppy from Redhat 6.0
Date: 20 Nov 2000 12:13:36 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Flej Ling) wrote in
xQ2S5.18$[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 

I want to read/write ability with my floppy drive so ...
Thanks,

Flej Ling



Well i use an alias to mount a floppy added in ~/.bashrc

alias floppy="mount /dev/fd0 /floppy"

so when i type floppy on the shell the floppy is automatically mounted.

just my $02...


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|elmig   |
|http://www.alunos.ipb.pt/~ee3931|
|Luis.Figueiredo AT pt.bosch.com |
++

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: question about vim
Reply-To: Hal Burgiss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:42:22 GMT

On Tue, 21 Nov 2000 00:23:14 +0800, Dan Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a really simple question about vim.  I would use it more if I
could figure out how to do one thing.  I will begin typing my paper and
off the text will go to the right to the right to the right until I am in
New York.  How in the world do you turn on like a word wrap or someway to
keep what you just typed in view?  Please e-mail me at 

In your .vimrc (or .gvimrc):

:set wrap 
:set textwidth=72 (or whatever floats your boat)

-- 
Hal B
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--

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From: Jean-David Beyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: file is not found - but I know it exists!
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:50:23 -0500

"Kilian A. Foth" wrote (in part):

 --
 ``Well, let's just say, if your VCR is still blinking 12:00, you don't
   want Linux.''
   -- Bruce Perens

Not necessarily: he may be so busy rewriting parts of the kernel, and
recompiling and installing it, that he has not used his VCR in months and
has not even noticed that it is blinking 12:00. ;-)

--
 .~.   Jean-David Beyer   Registered Linux User 85642.
 /V\  Registered Machine73926.
/( )\  Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^  7:45am up 5 days, 22:28, 2 users, load average: 2.31, 2.18, 2.08




--

From: Jean-David Beyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Hacked?  

Linux-Misc Digest #355

2000-11-20 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #355, Volume #26   Mon, 20 Nov 00 11:13:04 EST

Contents:
  Re: ufs rw filesystem driver? (Robert Kiesling)
  Re: Which Linux to try? (Rod Smith)
  Re: Slackware, Soundcards and kernel matters... (Kevin Croxen)
  Re: How should I install Linux and Win2K (dual boot) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: !! PLEASE HELP THIS NEWBEE ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Frame Buffering and Red Hat 7.0 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Can I use another distro's kernel? (Andrew Purugganan)
  Re: Can I use another distro's kernel? (Derek Jolly)
  Re: Undelete a file in Linux (Jason)
  Re: users,groups,persmissions etc ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Can I use another distro's kernel? (Andrew Purugganan)
  Re: mail server (David)
  Re: !! PLEASE HELP THIS NEWBEE (David)
  Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it. ( Black Dragon)
  Developing kernel (Peter Larance)



Subject: Re: ufs rw filesystem driver?
From: Robert Kiesling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 14:10:50 GMT


"dpc" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hola,
 
 I'm moving a drive from a FreeBSD system to a new install of Mandrake 7.2
 (Server install - high security).
 I've read on the FreeBSD website that linux  2.1 kernel has rw support for
 ufs filesystems.  So I try the following.
 
 # mount -t ufs -o ufstype=44bsd /dev/hdc1 /mntpoint
 # touch /mntpoint/filename
 touch: /mntpoint/filename: Read-only file system
 # mount | grep mntpoint
 /dev/hdc1 on /mntpoint type ufs (rw,ufstype=44bsd)
 
 So it says in mount that it's rw, however when I try to write to it, I get
 Read-only file system!
 Am I missing something here, or am I doing something blatantly wrong?  I've
 tried adding rw to the options as well.  Does Linux not really support rw of
 ufs???

By default, no.  UFS r/w support is _experimental_.

-- 
Robert Kiesling
Linux FAQ Maintainer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.mainmatter.com/linux-faq/toc.html  http://www.mainmatter.com/
---
Tired of spam?  Please forward messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Which Linux to try?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 14:15:33 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Jim Cleary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I am planning to try out Linux and have a partition available to install
 it into.
 I have copies of  Corel Linux
Red Hat 6.2
 and  Caldera Open Linux 1.3.
 I would welcome suggestions of which of these three would be the best to
 go for.  I have a fair amount of computer experience but none with Linux
 [or Unix].

Caldera 1.3 is pretty old (the current version is 2.4). Red Hat 6.2 is
one version behind (the latest is 7.0, which came immediately after
6.2). You didn't say what version of Corel you've got, but it's fairly
recent anyhow, so it can't be older than the Caldera.

You may want to check my Web page on distributions, at
http://www.rodsbooks.com/distribs/.

-- 
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux  multi-OS configuration

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin Croxen)
Subject: Re: Slackware, Soundcards and kernel matters...
Date: 20 Nov 2000 14:26:58 GMT

As for the sound, the Slackware FAQ at www.slackware.com includes this
--perms on /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer have to be set to something along the
lines of 666

Can't help you with the kernel --I think I'll wait another year or so
until 2.4.0-test35 or -test40 is out before taking the plunge... :)

Cheers,

--Kevin



In article 8vb9q2$8k0$[EMAIL PROTECTED], Sebastian Palm wrote:
Hi!

I was fiddling around with my Slackware 7.1 based Linux box,
so far upgraded with the 2.2.17 kernel and KDE 2.0 only when
I encountered something I couldn't soleve by looking at the
howto's. I know it's there, somewhere, but I can't find it...

The system won't let me use the sound card unless I'm root.
No mp3's, no system sounds, no nothing. It's OK, I'm used to
not having sound, but since root can use all this, why won't
it let my regular account do it?

I think it has to do with a file permission, but I'm stumped
as to which file and which permission. Can anyone help me out?

(Kernel is 2.2.17, compiled as a modular kernel, with the
emu10k1 module loaded at startup. I've not yet tried if it
works in GNOME, since I'd have to install that first.)

Next, the 2.4.0-test9 kernel. It looks good, it starts good  -
but where oh where did my modules go? I can find the files,
but modprobe has turned blind. The /lib/modules/2.4.0-test9/
tree looks nothing like the old 2.2.x trees, so I wonder what
to do about this. I _want_ that ACPI support. I _need_ the USB
functions. RH had USB, which I liked very much, but wouldn't
compile anything. 

Linux-Misc Digest #356

2000-11-20 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #356, Volume #26   Mon, 20 Nov 00 13:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: file is not found - but I know it exists! (Mike Castle)
  pop up message for quotas (chris)
  Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it. (bob_more)
  Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it. (bob_more)
  cdrecord and multi-session (Thomas Ruedas)
  Re: Why does linux keep crashing? ("Bob Jones")
  Curious RH-7.0 error message (Timothy Murphy)
  Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it. (Lenny Leblanc)
  need to figure out why kernel does not boot ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Configuring printer from text UI - RH6.1 ("Sylvain Drapeau")
  Re: Why does linux keep crashing? (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: !! PLEASE HELP THIS NEWBEE (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: Need some suggestions... (fred smith)
  Re: question about vim ("Joe (mvjap3) Philbrook III")
  Re: users,groups,persmissions etc (Paul Jariabek)
  Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: users,groups,persmissions etc ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Overhead of printer triver too high to suit me. (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: Undelete a file in Linux ("Joe (mvjap3) Philbrook III")
  SMP system with AMD micros (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Manuel 
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Ben=EDtez=20S=E1nchez?=)



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Castle)
Subject: Re: file is not found - but I know it exists!
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:10:00 -0600

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Erik Ø. Sørensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  #: file /usr/local/stata/stinit
  /usr/local/stata/stinit: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, 
  version 1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped

What is the output of:

strace /usr/local/stata/stinit

mrc

-- 
   Mike Castle   Life is like a clock:  You can work constantly
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  and be right all the time, or not work at all
www.netcom.com/~dalgoda/ and be right at least twice a day.  -- mrc
We are all of us living in the shadow of Manhattan.  -- Watchmen

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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 09:45:55 -0500
From: chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.smb,alt.comp.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: pop up message for quotas

Hello.

I am running samba 2.0.7 on a RH 6.2 machine.

I would like to be able to inform users when they have almost reached
their quota limit with a pop-up window.  I know I have to use the
"smbclient -M" to do this, but I am not certain of how it should be
implemented. Is there something I can do in smb.conf to have it:

1)check how much space is left on their quota share everytime they save
something

2)send them the pop-up message.

Has anyone else tried this?

I would really love to hear how you did it, and some sample smb.conf /
shell script code would be great.

Thanks!

Chris



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Subject: Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it.
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.install,alt.linux
From: bob_more [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:23:07 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am at my last thread of sanity...
=20
 I am using Red Hat 7.0 and trying to get KDE 2.0 on it.
=20
 I have deinstalled  KDE 1.0 and installed KDE 2.0 =3D NOTHING
 I have renamed KDE 1.0 and reinstalled KDE 2.0 =3D NOTHING
 I have deinstalled KDE 1.0 and tarred the slackware KDE 2.0 (is it
 compatible with Red HAT??) =3D NOPE!!
=20
 I have also installed the KDE rpms from www.kde.org's site and I get a
 grey screen and a KDE logo to start up with but craps out after 10
 seconds.
=20
 Somebody suggested compiling the source.. but I loaded it and said that
 I didn't have the correct C compiler on it (or something like that) AND
 I checkedsure enough I have gcc on the machine.
=20
 Can anybody make any sain reason on how to proceed???
=20
=20
 Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
 Before you buy.

did you use the kdeconfig rpm if --nodeps and --force flagged, it overwri=
tes
the login manager painlessly and offers you both kde and kde2. I had it r=
unning
in thirty minutes.


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Subject: Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it.
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.install,alt.linux
From: bob_more [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:24:10 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Black Dragon ) wrote:
 On Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:37:05 GMT in alt.linux,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] `[EMAIL PROTECTED]' said:
=20
 : I am at my last thread of sanity...
 :=20
 : I am using Red Hat 7.0 and trying to get KDE 2.0 on it.
 :=20
 : I have deinstalled  KDE 1.0 and installed KDE 2.0 =3D NOTHING
 : I have renamed KDE 1.0 and reinstalled KDE 2.0 =3D NOTHING
 : I have deinstalled KDE 1.0 and tarred the slackware KDE 2.0 (is it
 : compatible with Red HAT??) =3D NOPE!!
 :=20
 : I have also installed the KDE rpms from www.kde.org's site and I get =
a
 : grey screen and a KDE logo to start up with 

Linux-Misc Digest #357

2000-11-20 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #357, Volume #26   Mon, 20 Nov 00 15:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  information about modules vs. devices (David A. Rogers)
  Re: Undelete a file in Linux (Jason)
  Re: Set environment variable in bsh script and effect another program. ("Joe 
(mvjap3) Philbrook III")
  Re: cdrecord and multi-session ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  LILO boor menu - 2 boots for Linux ("Jeff Chandler")
  Re: file is not found - but I know it exists! (Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D8._S=F8rensen?=)
  Adobe Acrobat XKeysymDB (Chris Shepard)
  Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it. ("Thomas Petz")
  Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it. (bob_more)
  Re: SMP system with AMD micros (Cokey de Percin)
  Handy - PC put through - somewhere else (Ekkard Gerlach)
  Ok I tried the kdeconfig ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Where can I learn what "rpm" means? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Netscape 6 (Carter Brey)
  Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it. (Lenny Leblanc)
  Re: X-Windows trys to start and then crashes ("Jeff Susanj")
  Re: Which Linux to try? (Colin Watson)



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat.install,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it.
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 18:00:24 GMT

Sorry guys I forgot to put in the 's (joelwebb)

did you use the kdeconfig rpm if --nodeps and --force flagged, it
overwrites the login manager painlessly and offers you both kde and
kde2. I had it running in thirty minutes.

I looked for kdeconfig. Where is that rpm?? There is no tool on the
machine right now labeled kdeconfig nor an rpm on www.rpmfind.net.

The logon screen it offers kde1 and kde2. The kde2 craps out completely
and comes back to the logon screen. KDE1 goes into the new KDE mode
with a grey screen and bombs out, shows a KDE error:

The application KNotify (knotify) crashed and caused the signal 11
(SIGSEGV)

then brings up Kandall's useful tips.

I think the $PATH statement might be one of the problems, but I am
sorry I don't know the syntax of exporting the path of KDE which is I
AM GUESSING
/usr/local/kde/bin

Guys






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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David A. Rogers)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: information about modules vs. devices
Date: 20 Nov 2000 17:03:35 GMT

Assuming that a call is made for /dev/foo ex.(/dev/midi00).  Is there any
documentation on what module name will be requested (via request_module) if
any?

dar



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From: Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Undelete a file in Linux
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:32:38 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

when you run the undelete from mc, it asks you what device you want to look 
at.  The reason why you unmount the file system as soon as possible is 
because, lets say you trashed your mp3's in your home directory.  No big 
deal, you just fire up mc and head to the undelete function. But you screw 
up and manage to start editing a file in mc instead, mc writes out its 
cache file and boom, you could have just trashed Tom Jones best hits.  Its 
always a good practice to unmount the file system that you just deleted the 
file from as soon as you know you made a boo boo.  It just prevents the 
file from being overwritten and gives you a chance. 

If you are only a user, you need to get ahold of the admin real fast and 
see if this is something that he will even consider doing.  Unmounting home 
is never a happy thing during a production day. Tends to get BOFH's cranky 
and most will just say hope you had a backup, leave me be.   

I dont have any hard numbers on odds for recovery before and after 
mounting, but I would be willing to say that it would be VERY difficult to 
overwrite a sector on an unmounted disc, baring great big magnets and a few 
straight pins. 


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Jason 
  www.cyborgworkshop.com
...and the geek shall inherit the earth...

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From: "Joe (mvjap3) Philbrook III" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Set environment variable in bsh script and effect another program.
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:39:08 -0500
Reply-To: mvjap3 at work [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ok I'm not sure if this is what your looking for... But here goes.

If you mean you want to run a script that will set some environmental
variables or any variable for that matter then when that script
terminates and you return to the command prompt, you want those variables
to still equal what your script just set them to???

Then there is a workaround... lets say your script is named fix_env
then instead of calling it with

$ fix_env

try calling it with

$ . fix_env

the preceding dot causes the shell to execute the script with it's
current process id doesn't spawn a child 

Linux-Misc Digest #359

2000-11-20 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #359, Volume #26   Mon, 20 Nov 00 20:13:04 EST

Contents:
  Re: pppd dies unexpectedly! (-=KaOS=-)
  Re: How could I run a perl script by crontab? (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: Undelete a file in Linux (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: Undelete a file in Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Samba error login win98 (Tor Slettnes)
  Re: simple shell script variable question (Paul Floyd)
  Re: Which Linux to try? ("Paul S. Wilson")
  Re: KDE2 and RH7.0 trouble (The Left Hand of Darkness)
  Re: How could I run a perl script by crontab? ("Jan Schaumann")
  Understanding /proc network and other functions (mike)
  Re: simple shell script variable question (Mark Post)
  Helix Gnome update does not work (RH7) ("Lloyd Llewellyn")
  Re: Netscape 6 (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: getting xamp to compile (Silviu Minut)
  unresolved symbols in modules after kernel recompile (doug reeder)
  documentation for LaTeX ("Dan Allen")
  Re: Netscape 6 ("Dan Allen")
  Re: Hacked?  Is that the reason for my new mail problems? (Sinner from the Prairy)
  Re: documentation for LaTeX ("Jan Schaumann")
  Re: Slackware, Soundcards and kernel matters... ("lobotomy")
  Re: Hacked?  Is that the reason for my new mail problems? (Harold Stevens ** PLEASE 
SEE SIG **)
  Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it. (Eric B)
  sent mail (Michael R. Fox)
  Help with Castlewood ORB and Linksys Etherfast 10/100 NIC ("Tagbo Ekwueme-Okoli")
  Re: network slow in linux, fast in win... (John-Paul Stewart)



From: -=KaOS=- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux.dial-up,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.ppp,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: pppd dies unexpectedly!
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 17:03:21 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I believe I have an answer.  I had this problem trying to get different
distributions of Linux to connect to Prodigy Internet.  I was getting
ppd errors like these but after I supplied 'NOAUTH' to the list of
variables, everything was find ever since. Got that info from a prodigy
rep. Of course, you still have to put in your account info and DNS
crap.  I believed I used KPPP.

If you like to search...goto www.prodigy.net and do a search for Linux. 
One of the members made a webpage for this purpose.  Hope it helps

Rodney M.
Determined to learn Linux

Benjamin Autin wrote:
 
 Modem configured.  Talking to my ISP through kppp.  It goes through
 initialization, dialing, and before it can connect it dies on me giving me
 the message: "pppd daemon died unexpectedly" and the debug option doesn't
 give me any suggestions as to what I can do.
 As usual, any help would be appreciated.
 
  Thanks
 Ben

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From: Jean-David Beyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How could I run a perl script by crontab?
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 17:21:09 -0500

Martin Bock wrote:

 Peter T. Breuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jean-David Beyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 : Regent Linus wrote:
 
 : HelpHow could I run a perl script by crontab? thanks.
 
 : Wierd having this in green.
 
 Maybe you're using a recent tin (like me) in an ansi terminal (like
 me)? Nah ... nobody else but me uses tin to read news!
 
 Peter

 You're absolutely wrong, man, have a look at the headers of this
 posting ;-)

Peter may have been commenting on my remark that the original post was in
HTML with a green background.

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 Nietzsche is dead!..God
 URL:   www.martin-bock.de   Nietzsche is God!...The Dead

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From: Jean-David Beyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Undelete a file in Linux
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 17:22:41 -0500

John Thompson wrote:

 Jason wrote:

   Why do not users make backups? Those who used Windows before must realize
   more than any the importance of backups when the system loses or messes up
   their files. A user's accidently removing a file is just the same. I have
   had Unix lose me (all but the first block of) a file once in 25 years, and
   Linux has never lost me a file in over two years, but I remove one by
   mistake every once in a while. Backups have saved me every time.

  No one will argue this with you Im sure.  What really bothers me though is
  the amount of NO answeres this thread received.  It seems like that just
  because most people dont know how to do it, they instantly spout off that
  it cant be done.   In fact, their are several ways to restore files on an
  EXT2 file system. The easiest of which is to just use mc, a tool that most
  newbies will find comforting anyways.  I just wish that people would do

Linux-Misc Digest #360

2000-11-20 Thread Digestifier

Linux-Misc Digest #360, Volume #26   Mon, 20 Nov 00 23:13:01 EST

Contents:
  Windows Manager and Desktop Enviroment (Dan)
  Re: Hacked?  Is that the reason for my new mail problems? (Sinner from the Prairy)
  Blackbox cycle possible? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: unresolved symbols in modules after kernel recompile (Bill Unruh)
  Re: Undelete a file in Linux
  Linux terminal problems with SCO ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Understanding /proc network and other functions
  Re: Undelete a file in Linux (Jason)
  Re: Blackbox cycle possible? (Kevin Hayes)
  Re: Overhead of printer triver too high to suit me. (Dances With Crows)
  Re: Frame Buffering and Red Hat 7.0 (Dances With Crows)
  Re: Slackware, Soundcards and kernel matters... (Dances With Crows)
  Re: LILO boor menu - 2 boots for Linux (Dances With Crows)
  Re: Help with Castlewood ORB and Linksys Etherfast 10/100 NIC (Dances With Crows)
  respawning error on boot (Robert Spangler)
  Re: Can I use another distro's kernel? (Jimbob)
  Re: How could I run a perl script by crontab? (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: Windows Manager and Desktop Enviroment ("Jan Schaumann")
  Re: Overhead of printer triver too high to suit me. (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: Netscape 6 (Jean-David Beyer)



Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 20:12:24 -0500
From: Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Windows Manager and Desktop Enviroment

Hi,

Few things that I'm a little confused.  Let me attempt to tell you want
I know (hopefully it's correct) and what I don't know and want to know.
If what I thought I knew is incorrect information, PLEASE CORRECT ME.

I understand that:

1) X Windows, (a.k.a. X server, X, etc.) is a graphical entity that runs
on many different Unix (and many of Unix's variants, Linux included)
systems.  Many programs that requires GUI needs X Windows to be running
first, in order for it to run, eg., netscape.  There are many different
X Windows systems available, some are free, XFree86 in particlular, and
some are commercial, Accerlerated X for example.

2) There are something called the Windows Manager (eg., Windows Maker,
After Step, fvwm, fvwm2, enlightment, sawfish, etc), and Desktop
Enviroment, a.k.a., Graphical Enviroment (eg., KDE, GNOME, etc), which
runs on top of the X Windows.  These "programs" helps the user to manage
X Windows and gives a consistent and user-friendly interface between the
computer and the user.

My questions is:
1) What is the difference between a Windows Manager and a
Desktop/Graphical Enviroment.
2) What would be a good suggestion, Windows Manager or Desktop/Graphical
Enviroment.
3) And finally, which Windows Manager or which Desktop/Graphical
Enviroment should I use.

Thanks for all info,
Dan


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From: Sinner from the Prairy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Hacked?  Is that the reason for my new mail problems?
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 01:11:11 -0500

Harold Stevens ** PLEASE SEE SIG ** wrote:

 | bellsouth adsl address. I don't remember the exact sub-net, but maybe I
 | can ask.
 | Is there a chraker at adsl-bellsouth-somewhere?
 
 Hard to say. But if were my property, I don't care what there are called.

 If you have logs of the probes (don't waste their time if not) and any other
 evidence of intrusion/tampering, the addy for Bell South from that Sam Spade
 (http://samspade.org/t/) listing I found is

He show me logs through the irc. Unless they have been erased, they
should definitively exist.
 
 Coordinator:
Geurin, Joe  (JG726-ARIN)  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
678-441-7800 (FAX) 678-441-6968
 
 It may not be the direct route but they should forward info if needed.

OK. I'll try to contact my friend.
 

Thanks,
Sinner
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Blackbox cycle possible?
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 01:08:50 GMT

Is it possible to cycle through open windows (ala WindowMaker, win9x),
in Blackbox?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: osu.sys.linux
Subject: Re: unresolved symbols in modules after kernel recompile
Date: 21 Nov 2000 01:43:32 GMT

In 8vceuc$so9$[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (doug reeder) 
writes:


I'm recompiling the 2.2.12 kernel to enable support for a 
parallel port printer.  Unfortunately, this breaks everything
that's compiled as a modules.

ALL distributions that I have every heard of support parallel port
printers out of the box. What made you think you should recompile?
Despite what some of the ancient and